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Vany Vicious on THC - #83
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EPISODE 83 – VANY VICIOUS | Tattoos, OnlyFans, Diet Discipline & Ranch Dreams
On Episode 83 of The Heir Cast, we sit down with Miami OG tattoo model Vany Vicious — one of the original internet/OnlyFans era indie stars who’s been ahead of the curve and still going strong today.
We dive deep into her tattoo journey, how society’s view on tattoos has completely evolved, and the psychology behind why people end up getting terrible tattoos in the first place. We also unpack the reality of OnlyFans, what it can do forpeople, what it can do to people, and the conversations most people avoid having.
Vany breaks down her ultra-strict diet, disciplined lifestyle choices, and we draft the most painful places on the body to get tattooed.
And if that wasn’t enough… we get an inside look at her ultimate dream life: a rugged, Yellowstone-style ranch lifestylefar removed from the chaos of modern life.
BONUS: Stick around until the end to find out Vany’s favorite Eminem song… from the woman who, back in the day, had MORE Facebook followers than Eminem himself.
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I'm one of those girls that married guys are in my DMs, but like I will literally block them. Like, there's been times where married guys will send me like dick pics.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_06And I will find their fucking wife and be like, get your man. But I do think that people get tattooed way too freely now. Even though I'm on OnlyFans, like I don't recommend this shit to anybody.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. We're already rolling, so we could roll right into it. The very specific, because the people, the world of fans, everybody wants to know.
SPEAKER_06Here we go. Ready? I learned this on TikTok during COVID, but they were doing it with instant American coffee. And I was like, they're fucking up. Can I say bad words? Say whatever you want. So you get instant cafe urtelo.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_06You do like two or three spoons of that, like a little splash of water, and you get one of those milk frothers.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And you white that thing. And then it turns into like this coffee foam thing. And then you add honey, raw organic honey, duh, and then milk and ice.
SPEAKER_03Why duh? It has to be. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It has to be organic and yeah. That's the best kind.
SPEAKER_03I wonder why people think she's rich. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_08I get it at Costco. It's like $13 for like three bottles.
SPEAKER_03Then she wonders.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it's my fault.
SPEAKER_03No, but um listen, um, I do have a question here. So is there a word for um the froth? Because I don't like drinking coffee unless it has like the the froth, the froth, like the pomita, right? Am I wrong for that? Is that a crazy thing?
SPEAKER_06I drink coffee, however. As long as it's caffeine and it has milk in it, I'm happy as fuck.
SPEAKER_03Good.
SPEAKER_06Okay, and then you're just bougie.
SPEAKER_03I guess.
SPEAKER_06And you say I'm bougie.
SPEAKER_03Bougie and Rich are two different things. We bougie in the hood, girl.
SPEAKER_06I fake it till I make it.
SPEAKER_03We're still faking it right here.
SPEAKER_06We fake it every day. That's the highly away.
SPEAKER_03And is is there a clear what's the difference between like instant cafe hostelo and like regular cafe hostelo?
SPEAKER_06You have to put regular in la cafetera.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so you're doing this. So this is like yeah, this is like quick, this is convenient.
SPEAKER_06It's supposed to be with hot water. You just add it to hot water and it makes Cuban coffee. But I do it with room temperature, water, whatever, it doesn't matter. But then when you whisk it, it turns into like kind of like una pomita. And then you just add milk to it.
SPEAKER_03More tequila, I don't like whiskey. Anyway, so yeah, here with uh Aircast, we start with the important questions because the people, the fans, everybody really wants to know. Also, proper introduction, we have Vanny Vicious here, the the OG My uh Tattoo Miami model.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's what the YouTube says I am. You kind of are that when I read that, I was like, she kind of is, but that's I I really am, bro.
SPEAKER_06Like I started tat it was called tattoo modeling because we were in tattoo magazines. So it's like, oh, you're modeling your tattoos, which never made sense to me. But yeah, I got on my first magazine cover like at 18. Like 18?
SPEAKER_03What was the magazine?
SPEAKER_06Um, Savage magazine, it doesn't exist anymore.
SPEAKER_03Savage.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but it was a tattoo. I mean, I don't even think tattoo magazines exist at this point.
SPEAKER_03Magazines in general. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but back in in my day, you would walk into like a Barnes and Noble, and the entire magazine area was tattoo magazines, and I would be on like two or three covers at one time, or like shop for my own magazines.
SPEAKER_03What's that first experience the first time you see yourself in a store? Do you remember? Like it was it planned, or was like, oh my god, look at me there.
SPEAKER_06So I thought it was a joke because the way that those used to work is you would go to a tattoo convention, and I was a piercer for a long time, so I worked in tattoo shops, and I went to a tattoo convention with my shop to work, and this photographer pulled me to the side, and he's like, Let me take some pictures of you, blah blah blah. I had never modeled, I had never done any of that. So, but I've seen tattoo magazines magazines, and it's just girls like with their arm, you know, like here's my forearm, here are my hands, whatever. So he pulls me to the side, he's taking pictures of me. Um, and he says, Oh, this is the cover. And I was just like, haha, okay, bye, thanks, and I just left. And then randomly I was at a Barnes and Noble or something like that, and I saw the the magazine that I was on the cover.
SPEAKER_02It was really the cover.
SPEAKER_06And I was like, Oh fuck, he wasn't kidding. Like, this is so embarrassing. Like, I got kind of embarrassed.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. And then I remembered they photoshopped my tank top another color.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06Which I thought was weird.
SPEAKER_03I was wearing what color to what color? I'm curious.
SPEAKER_06I was wearing a white regular white?
SPEAKER_08I was wearing a white wife beater.
SPEAKER_03Like, like that's very tough girl stuff. I get it.
SPEAKER_08So ratchet, and they made it blue.
SPEAKER_03I get it. Okay. More girly, and I guess it makes your tattoos pop. Is that a thing? I don't know.
SPEAKER_06I guess. But yeah, it was really I was really on the cover. I was like, Can I find it online?
SPEAKER_03Would it be cool? Do you think it's it's you could find it, or I can send it to you if you want to. That'd be ideal. Yeah, that'd be cool.
SPEAKER_08Okay.
SPEAKER_06It's so embarrassing. I had no fucking eyebrows. Oh my gosh. You don't remember back then you it was like a little line of hair, like a pr-like you used to pluck the shit out of your eyebrows.
SPEAKER_02Sounds like the chonga stuff.
SPEAKER_08Yes, and my eyeshadow was like blue as fuck.
SPEAKER_03Like it was so bad. Yeah, I've had some moments where you're like shaving your unibrow and you go a little bit too much. You're like, oh shit. Yeah. That's that's bad for me.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, my hair was three colors. It was like blonde, black, and red, because I thought it was fucking Christina Aguilera. I don't know what the hell I was doing.
SPEAKER_02Shout out to Christina. It's far.
SPEAKER_06I don't no, no, I was 18, imaginate. I'm 38 now, so it was a long ass time ago.
SPEAKER_03Edit that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so the the people want to know. I don't know how we've veered off, but I wanted to ask the first question. Why vicious? Where does vicious come into play here?
SPEAKER_06It was also a joke. My whole career has been by mistake. So, like, the magazine was a mistake, my name was a mistake. Um, it was a magazine that had hit me up to to send them a feature, uh, like you know, pictures or whatever. This was after the cover.
SPEAKER_03I'm Savage.
SPEAKER_06The Savage cover, they wrote Vanny Rock. Like Hardy Rock. It's before then, too.
SPEAKER_01Oh shit. The OG.
SPEAKER_06So they wrote Vanny Rock. So then the next magazine was like, We need your alias or whatever. And I'm like, I don't is that how you say it? Alice. Yeah, no, alias.
SPEAKER_03I'm just it's just a weird thing to ask. Yeah. Like, does everybody have an alias? Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_06Well, you don't want your full real name.
SPEAKER_03Like off rip, Drake has his real name.
SPEAKER_06I mean, yeah, only his first name, though.
SPEAKER_03I feel like nowadays people are more like going towards like that's his middle name, actually. I think his first name's Aubrey, right? Aubrey Drake, whatever the fuck. Now we know she's team Kendrick. Drake, if you're listening. I'm trying, though. I'm trying.
SPEAKER_08Okay, not like us.
SPEAKER_03Listen, um, but yeah, uh Ariana Grande, right? Like it I feel like I I hear a lot more like people going by their names, like normals.
SPEAKER_06But I but also Arianna was like an actress before, you know, so I don't know. But I was scared. I didn't know, so my last name is crazy, anyways.
SPEAKER_03Um wait, wait, let's let's backtrack okay. They asked you for an alias. Yeah, they had just put Vanny Rocks on the first one.
SPEAKER_06They had put Vanny Rocks on the first one. They were like, What's your alias? For the second one. I'm like, I don't fucking know. So I start asking my friends, like, what do I tell them? What do I tell them? And everyone's always called me Vanny because my name's Vanessa. Oh, really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_06So I I was like, Vanny something. So my friend was just like, vicious, because you're such a bitch. And I was like, Alright, fuck it. And I didn't know that this was gonna like follow me my whole life and that it was gonna be a thing. So I just wrote Vanny Vicious to not write my real name. And from then on, every other magazine, every other whatever pub publication feature was Vanny Vicious. So I'm like, fuck it. I guess that has to be my Instagram name too now. And so all of it was a mistake. I'm not supposed to be here.
SPEAKER_03Mistakes are good. Fell out of pizza. Pizza was a mistake, you know. It's awesome.
SPEAKER_05Was it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think it was uh the idea the story is uh they were making pasta and it fell on bread. They had pot uh red sauce just hanging out and it just fell on a bunch of bread, and then guys came in like, yo, this is fire.
SPEAKER_06You know, sometimes I prefer like a breadstick with marinara over pizza.
SPEAKER_03Interesting. Interesting. I think it's a different thing. I don't know if I'd always prefer it.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I don't eat either anymore.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're super like no sugar, don't drink, don't no pizza.
SPEAKER_06Crazy.
SPEAKER_03What what what happens here? Where does this come from?
SPEAKER_06I make pizza. I make every I could eat everything or I do eat everything, I just make it myself.
SPEAKER_03Like healthy alternative, like cauliflower.
SPEAKER_06Fuck no.
SPEAKER_03Chicken bone pizza and some weird concoctions.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, absolutely not. So chicken bone. No. Yeah. Mostly like carnivore, I guess, but I eat fruit and some other stuff. I don't eat vegetables at all, actually.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and you're you're like reptiles like a gang. You have it in your description of your about me. Meat based. Animal-based.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I was like, damn, she's rep in the set. Okay, what happens with that?
SPEAKER_06Like what I was really sick for a long time. Um, I was in like a crazy terrible relationship, and I got my nervous system got so fucked up from being in that relationship that I started developing not autoimmune disease, but autoimmune symptoms.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_06So it would like I still have flare-ups to this day, but eating this way is the only thing that has kept everything like super calm.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like anti-inflammatory as fuck. And for me, now vegetables, leaves, things like that cause me inflammation, and they just cause me to feel like shit. And when I say that, people are like, Oh, you use the bathroom a lot when you eat it, I'm like, no, I actually am in pain. Like, I will be in pain, like my bones hurt when I eat Brussels sprouts. Like, I don't know what to tell you.
SPEAKER_03Damn. What? That's crazy. Okay, so did you have anything that was hard for you to let go? Like, it sounds like I mean vegetables and stuff, like a lot of people are really on that.
SPEAKER_06Not really, because I was so sick that I felt like I was gonna die. And at that point, you're like, I don't I don't care. Pizza, what? Cheeseburger, what? McDonald's, who cares? Like at that point, I really didn't care. And now it's like to the point where I can watch you slam pizza, ice cream, and all that stuff, and I'm like, I'll wait till I get home and I'll eat my stuff, and I'm just used to it now. It's been like six years.
SPEAKER_03Once you're over, you're over. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, what you treat now? Like, I know it can't be anything like food-wise, but like what's like a guilty pleasure? Like, is it like reality TV shows or something? No.
SPEAKER_06Um, I actually eat chocolate every day.
SPEAKER_03Okay, what kind of chocolate?
SPEAKER_06There's one brand that I really like, and people are catching on because it's selling out all the time now. And I need you guys to stop because I need it, and you could still have Hershey's. So back the fuck off. Um the brand is called Get Back to Human.
SPEAKER_03Get Back to Human? Yes. Cool name.
SPEAKER_06And it's minimal ingredient chocolate, like the chocolate bars, they have they have flavored ones like peanut butter or whatever, whatever. I like the plain milk chocolate one. It has like three or four ingredients, like, and it's fire.
SPEAKER_01Really? Yes.
SPEAKER_04Milk chocolate or dark chocolate?
SPEAKER_06They're both fire, but I like milk chocolate. But their chocolate is so good. And I still eat ice cream. There's a brand called ice cream for bears that's like four ingredients.
SPEAKER_03So like an LGBTQ flavored, like uh supportive company.
SPEAKER_06Sprouts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sprouts?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no. Like I I I eat everything. I just find a brand that is the minimal ingredient shit, clean as hell. You know, if I make pizza, I make the sauce, I make the dough with almond flour. Almond flour. Wow. It's the only one that tastes the closest to pizza dough.
SPEAKER_03Okay. I'm allergic to nuts, so what what's the best nuts alternative here? Shallow mom.
SPEAKER_06I have um I've tried one that's super popular where you get ground chicken. I don't like it. I don't like it, but people do it. You get ground chicken and you put like all the garlic seasoning, whatever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's the base, okay.
SPEAKER_06And you kind of spread it out on a pan and you bake that.
SPEAKER_03Chicken? That's interesting.
SPEAKER_06And it's like super high protein pizza. It's gross.
SPEAKER_03It's super high protein, okay.
SPEAKER_06It's gross.
SPEAKER_03Will you ever change the vicious to anything else?
SPEAKER_06Like, can I?
SPEAKER_03Like you know, you have so much variety fanny variety. I have any variety.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but she's already brand.
SPEAKER_08I literally have vicious tattooed across my stomach. Like, I think I'm Tupac and shit, so you don't rap. You don't rap? I don't rap. I should start. Yeah, you should. I know.
SPEAKER_03Or it could be a ventriloquist.
SPEAKER_08A ventrentriloquist.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, then you come out with a little like a vanny hand. A little puppet. Only hands. And it's it's your fucking hand puppet.
SPEAKER_08It's crazy. We're on to something. Look at us. Look at us. Something's happening.
SPEAKER_03Yo, this is crazy.
SPEAKER_08The gears are grinding. Something's happening right now.
SPEAKER_03The next episode's gonna be just it's gonna be hand puppet. We're just on the floor. We talked about it's gonna be her. Yo. Anyways.
SPEAKER_07Or just under the table like this. Like, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_03I don't know why I wanted to ask you this, but I I felt like you might have an interesting answer. Do you think nowadays there's like this going-on trend where everybody's quote unquote autistic? Do you think people are really autistic, or do you think people are just like uh not having accountability for being like toxic or being assholes or like being like socially retarded, I guess sometimes? Because I feel like a lot of people just be like, I was about to say they're just retarded and I was like, can I say retarded? Great minds.
SPEAKER_06Okay, um, I think everybody, I think everybody's kind of on the spectrum, but I think it depends like um, okay, yes, yes. May like maybe not full-blown autistic, but I don't know. You know, when I was younger, I didn't have any type of retardation, right? But as I get older, I'm Personally, like using yourself. Yeah, me myself. So as I I get older, I'm like, damn, I'm a little bit retarded because now I get overstimulated in places, and I like I gotta go. I'm like, oh fuck, I gotta go. I gotta and I was never like that. Like anxiety? Yes, like in my 20s, I could be at a festival, you know, in a crowd of thousands and thousands of people, yo me tirava to the mosh pits at rock shows when I was 19, 20 years old, and now I'm like, oh no, how many people are there? But I it's very loud. Like, what I gotta go. And I don't know. I do think that people overuse the autistic word. I do think that. I think it's like a fucking trend. The word overstimulated is also trendy. Yes. Um, you know, but no one wants to say retarded, so triggered, they're triggered. Well, I think I think it's overused.
SPEAKER_03So I think I think triggered the normal thing because you're we're allowed to have normal triggers, but the the thing that bothers me about the autism thing is it's kind of used as like a shield. Oh, I'm autistic. It's like, okay, you can be autistic, but like understand that your autism's making kind of be a dick right now.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I guess it depends on like in like how they're using it, you know. Cause I have a friend who legit is autistic. Um, and he like I'll notice in him when we're out. I I notice him start to get like, and I'm like, do you have to go? And he's like, Yeah, like let me just move and and he'll just you know, and I see that. But when you're just yeah, when you're just an asshole, like I don't know. I I do think it's yeah, I do think it's overused. Like just say you're an asshole. Just say And there's different forms of it too.
SPEAKER_03Like that's like social anxiety autism. Like, there's also I I feel like sometimes I get a little autistic where I'll just kind of say something that comes off, I guess, mean, but it's it's kind of like the truth. I'm just being honest. It's like, yeah, she's probably cheating on you, bro. Yeah, she probably doesn't really like you. You feel me? And it's like, damn, should I have said it that way? Like, you feel me? Like, like, yo, if it's okay if you're gay. You feel me? It's like, oh shit. Maybe this guy's dealing with this shit. It's like, damn, okay. And I look back on those situations, like, damn, am I autistic, or was I just being insensitive to the moment and not realizing, going on your let me?
SPEAKER_06I think the same thing, because I'm I'm a very literal person. Very literal. Like when people say to me, I'll call you right back, like I'll call you right right back. I'm like, okay, bye. And I'll I'll literally like wait. Like, look at the phone crazy like, yeah, I'll I'll put the phone down and just be like, let me not take a shower yet, because they were gonna call me right right back. And then after like 10 minutes, I'm like, they're not calling me fucking back. What the fuck? Like, I take everything very literal. I when I talk, it's it's the truth. I don't, I'm not, I've never lied, I'm not a liar, I'm just not that type of person. So I expect that in other people. So I take if you tell me this is blue, I'm like, oh okay, that's what he said. It the it's blue is fucking blue.
SPEAKER_02Like I'm not he gets mad when I tell people, yeah, I'll be there in 20 minutes. Yeah, it's bad. It's Kendo, we're gonna take at least 30 minutes. Yeah, that's frustrating.
SPEAKER_06I'm very literal, and also like what you were saying when people say something to me, I'm like, nah, that's ugly as fuck. And they're like, You're such a bitch, and I'm like, you just asked me for my opinion. Like, I don't feel the need to sugarcoat anything. You asked me, and here's the direct answer like very blunt to the point. What are and then so I guess I'm autistic too, or it's tough, like I don't know, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Or we're just dicks, um pad the dicks. Type, type, type, type, type. Okay, and I feel like this was corny to get into this, but I guess let's we'll have other things to talk about in future episodes and later in the conversation. But do you even keep count of tattoos at this point? At the point you're you're out? Do you keep counting like I have X amount?
SPEAKER_06No, no, I just say like I have two full sleeves, my hands, my back, two full sleeves, stomach, and then I always say like I'll have I have some on my legs.
SPEAKER_03You go through body parts, yeah. Okay, uh, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_06Lost count, you lost count. Yeah, but I will say that when people are like, I like your tattoo, I'm like, which one?
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's what do you what do you mean?
SPEAKER_06That's good. Like if they're walking by me, I'm like, how do you see that from that far? Like, my arm is full of shit. What do you mean you're not gonna do that?
SPEAKER_03Wait, do you take those two statements differently? Do you take I like your tattoo versus I like your tattoos? Do you take those differently? Because that's very specific. Like, which one are you looking at? You're calling out the fakeness, and I get that, but I wouldn't say that because it's hard to write, okay. That I guess we are autistic.
SPEAKER_06I'm like, which one is it? Speak directly. I don't understand.
SPEAKER_01Be specific.
SPEAKER_06No, it's um when they say I like your tattoos, I think that they mostly mean they like the look of it. Because if I'm walking by you fast, you can't tell what the fuck I have. Like, it's just a quick whatever. You just see that I have a lot. So I think people are mostly saying that they like the look of it. But no one ever says, like, I like that rose on your neck, or like I like that flower. They're just like, nice tats.
SPEAKER_03I'm like the rose turning into a dragon? What's going on?
SPEAKER_06Is this the black and gray sign?
SPEAKER_03Yes, that's black and gray. It's octopus tentacles. Oh, okay, it's tentacles, yeah. Some type of reptilian it looked like, but no, it's tentacles. Octopus, very, very incredible animal. Have you seen uh My Teacher the Octopus?
SPEAKER_06I haven't because I don't want to cry, and I keep hearing I'm gonna fucking cry.
SPEAKER_03Good cry crying's good though. Like it's good crying. No, it's not good crying. No, it's a good crying. The notebook. I saw it and I was like, No, my whole family cried in that shit. That's shit. I put my whole family on that.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna make my mom watch it with me then. Yes. Because she's in town right now.
SPEAKER_03Great family bombing. Great family band.
SPEAKER_06I've heard so much things about it. No, but I I got that because I'm always I'm always being strangled by water signs, honestly. I'm a fire sign, and everyone I've ever dated has been like a water sign, like a Scorpio, a Pisces, or fucking cancer.
SPEAKER_03Why is Scorpio water? I don't understand that.
SPEAKER_06I don't understand that either. And Aquarius is air.
SPEAKER_03Listen, it's all about it.
SPEAKER_02What's Aries?
SPEAKER_06Fire. It's fire. So you're a fire sign. I am, I'm a Leo, yeah.
SPEAKER_01A Leo. Oh, because August, yes, yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_06I always attract water signs, but they always say like water signs with fire signs don't work because water will put out your fire. Like, that's what they say. But everyone in my life is a water sign. All my friends, like exes, my my mom, like everybody. But I'm like, no, they're always choking me and shit, so I got octopus tentacles. Wild, wild to remind me to stop dating cancers.
SPEAKER_03Who comes up with these these ideologies? Like this, it's it's almost like racist racial division with uh zodiacs and horoscopes. It's like, yeah, you guys don't get along with you guys, and it's like, I don't believe it. I don't buy into so Scorpio streaming everywhere. But I don't I don't believe in all that stuff. I feel like pissed. Yeah, I mean, shout out my Scorpius. But shout out to all my zodiacs. I feel like, you know, like, and there was this post not too long ago that they said that like the time's a little bit off, like everything's a month off, so you're like Oh, because they they made a new sign out of nowhere. Oh, that's what it was, but I thought it was because the calendar was off. I thought because people found out, yo, we're like a whole month off or something like that.
SPEAKER_06You want to get nerdy in astrology right now, or no? Because I don't think people give a fuck about it.
SPEAKER_03I don't care what people care about.
SPEAKER_06There's two types of astrology there's Western astrology and there's Vedic astrology.
SPEAKER_03Vedic? Like Darth Vader, like what we've studied?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but V-E-D-I-C, Vedic. So Western astrology is based on the calendar dates. So they'll say, Oh, if you were born on this day, then you're a Gemini or whatever. Vedic astrology is based on where the planets actually were, like it's astronomically correct. So a lot of most people astrologically correct. Yeah, and and astronomically, like it's it's the whole fucking universe. So a lot of people will say, like, oh yeah, I'm a Gemini, I'm a Gemini, I'm a Gemini. And then when you look at your Vedic chart, you're actually not like, and then also with your whole birth chart, it's where every planet was when you were born at that exact same time at that location. So we have a sun sign, we have a rising sign, we have a moon sign.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's my um, I'm I'm Scorpio Sag Cusp rising. It's mathematical. Something it's very how do you keep track of that?
SPEAKER_06You get an app, just take a screenshot of it.
SPEAKER_03You can I'm sure you can learn yours easier, but like how do you do the math of oh, you're this and that? Oh shit.
SPEAKER_06Like, how do you like I don't remember anybody's fucking birthday? I'm the worst with birthdays, but one of my best friends is a professional astrologer. It's what she does for a living, and she does Vedic astrology. So she like I'll call her and I'll literally be like, Is it a good time for me to get a new car? And she'll she'll tell me, like, wait till next month because this planet isn't this and you're whatever. And I'm like, Yeah, I'm like, just tell me the date. Okay, cool. Like, and she'll that girl will tell you when you're gonna get a raise, when you might lose your fucking job, when you might get into a car accident. And that's crazy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And everything is like on point. Everything's on point. On point. Like it's it's science. It she went to India to study that. Over there, it's a science that they study.
SPEAKER_03And you've you read people's cards too, right?
SPEAKER_06I do read cards, yeah, but that has nothing to do with like astrology. Astrology, I don't know shit. I'm like, oh, you're a f whatever card.
SPEAKER_03Oh, because tarot card reading is not okay, it's different. Completely different.
SPEAKER_06Which one do you do, Benny? The Spaniard one? I I know how to read them, but I do like the basic The Spaniard ones have less cards in the deck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are are a little bit I mean it's similar, but the other, like I guess the more Americanized version or whatever, has um way more cards.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So your family's Dominican?
SPEAKER_06My dad's side is Dominican Italian, my mom's side is Cuban.
SPEAKER_03Wow though. So I know Cubans have Santeria. Dominicans also dabble in most of us?
SPEAKER_06Some, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, is it also it's also Santeria? Is that what they're I mean?
SPEAKER_06I think they're more into like voodoo, honestly, because it's next to because they're so close to Haiti. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right, right. That's what I thought. When I think of like uh Haitians and black people of Santeria that think voodoo. Okay, so that's what the Dominicans are on there.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Were you put onto that through family and stuff?
SPEAKER_06The my first deck was given to me by my aunt, and she I don't I don't remember like why she had it, because she didn't read cards or anything, and she was just like, Oh, here, you want this? And I was like, Yeah, give it to me. And then she gave me like the book, and I just started practicing, and now I've been reading cards for like 10 years, but honestly, like nobody in my family like fucks with that. They're they all think I'm weird.
SPEAKER_07They're like, whatever, you do you, boo.
SPEAKER_03And one thing people don't think is weird anymore, and I think um it this is a cool question to ask you because you've kind of probably seen it transition, like the whole arc where growing up tattoos were taboo. Yeah, and now it's like Pete Davidson just dropped a couple million to get all his tattoos removed. Like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_06Like, so he's going through something, I think.
SPEAKER_03What's your opinion? Yeah, for sure. I mean, why? Like, I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. Well, how do you feel about that? Like, tattoos being so like at first, I guess early on in life, like, oh shit, you can't do it, it's taboo, and versus now that it's hard to find people without tattoos, then.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, um, the logic that I have, right? So part of me, I I lived through that where I actually in the tattoo shop used to get judged for being a female with tattoos. Like, there was a point where I started trying to learn how to tattoo, and this was in Hayalia, and I'm sorry, but you know, like those cuanaso ass guys, they would come into the shop and I would start helping them, and they'd be like, Oh no, no, like you're a woman, I don't want you tattooing me. Like, you don't know what you're doing, and this and that. But I've I've been through people say my mom used to date some guy that would be like, You look like a prisoner in Cuba, that means you went to jail, and this and that, that's like that's disgusting, la da da. Old school, and yeah, there there has been it still happens here and there where people just look at you like you're gross and whatever. Um, but I do think that people get tattooed way too freely now. Cause when I when I was in the tattoo shops, like if you would walk in and and you wanted your hands tattooed and you didn't have any other fucking tattoos, we'd turn you down. Like, yeah, you're not gonna get your fucking hands. You're 19 years old, you don't have your arms, you don't have like you don't even have a job. Like, what are you that's responsible? Yeah, and we that's how I grew up in the shops. Like, you're not getting your neck, you're not getting your hands, and they they would get mad, like you're not my fucking mom, and we're like like you're not doing it here, you're not gonna get your fingers, like get the fuck out of here. So that's that's how I learned. Now these kids all have you know those little scratchy line tattoos and shit all over their hands, their necks, and and they're like, Oh, it's okay, I'm I'm gonna be TikTok famous or whatever. I'm like, okay, you do that. Yeah, like so personally, I don't like that people get them so freely like that, but why do you think what do you think's going on nowadays?
SPEAKER_03Because you got like the girl that got the Drake tattoo, and it's like Drake was like mad about that, like, and this is like a 15 years ago, but like there's a lot of historically retarded tattoos that people are getting. Why is this becoming an increasing thing? Is it is because I I think the natural like the easy answer is like, oh, the the artists want the money, and it's easy to put the blame on it, but people are also dumb.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So like what what's it somebody from the industry?
SPEAKER_06It's both. It's it's the idiots that want some outlandish tattoo for attention or whatever. I think social media plays a big part in it too, because if that girl with the Drake tattoo didn't post it, nobody would fucking know.
SPEAKER_03Even no, true.
SPEAKER_06So, like, she did that to post it to get some type of notoriety or whatever.
SPEAKER_03So that's true, but social media has a huge What if what if she got the tattoo not to post it? What if she just loves Drake that much? You don't think that exists? You don't think that exists?
SPEAKER_06She wouldn't have because how would Drake ever know? If she loves Drake and she's getting the tattoo for Drake Harvard.
SPEAKER_03Why get it on your forehead? Uh-huh. That's true.
SPEAKER_06And why would she get it on her forehead of anything?
SPEAKER_03Like I'm so crazy. I wonder if she still has a tattoo. I'll I'll look it up and we'll drop it.
SPEAKER_06Hopefully she lasered that shit off, but or got bangs or something. But bangs. Yeah. Like, she needs to do something because that's not okay.
SPEAKER_03What was the first tattoo ever?
SPEAKER_06That I got?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Some stupid ass stars on my back.
SPEAKER_01Stars, okay.
SPEAKER_06Two little stars. So I didn't want a tramp stamp. I was 16. My dad took me. Shout out, dad. You made me this way. Um, and I didn't want it in the middle, so I got one star on each side. And then he did one.
SPEAKER_03Up like a what do you mean?
SPEAKER_06No, like literally two stars, like like this, like right here.
SPEAKER_03Across, like a line? No.
SPEAKER_06One star on one side and one star on the other side of my back. For no fucking reason. It's covered now.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_06But it's been covered for a long time. But my dad took me and he was like, What are you getting? You're not getting one in the middle. And I'm like, okay, one on each side.
SPEAKER_03Fine, we'll compromise. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I was like, all right. Just black stars, two fucking black stars, and then I threw up after the first one.
SPEAKER_03Damn.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. He did the first one and I was like, oh, I don't feel good. Yeah, you know how people faint?
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes. You threw up. I barf.
SPEAKER_06I'm a I'm a puker. Yeah, it's weird. So I did the first one and I was like, hold on. I'm gonna put it on.
SPEAKER_03Barf Simpson. Um, so how do you get four million followers on Facebook?
SPEAKER_06Just being uh Well, I lost that page, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_03Originally, though, like I don't know.
SPEAKER_06I don't know. Being a baddie online, just being a fucking booty baddie, bro. That's that's why the page got taken down. Oh it was just ass. It was just ass everywhere. That's the key. Um I really don't know. Social media is one of those things that you just post and then one day you wake up and you're like, what?
SPEAKER_03Takes off.
SPEAKER_06The fuck?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that is wild. That is a wild thing. That is a wild thing. And then you bit you're an OG on OnlyFans, not just an OG Tattoo Miami model, but you 2015 was it the first time?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And that's before people had even really heard of what OnlyFans was got normalized. And they reach out to you to get on.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03How does that work out? Like, do you have the traction online?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I had I think at that time I had the the big Facebook page or whatever, and I was modeling already for a while, and I got an email like, hey, we're starting this website where you can monetize off your followers, you can do whatever you want on there, you could charge a monthly fee, whatever. Um and I was like, sure. And I had like a Snapchat at the time, so I was like, all right, I'll just fuck off Snapchat and post private Snapchat?
SPEAKER_03Private Snapchat. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. And it's private Snapchat, like just normal Snapchat, you only give access to people that pay? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So it's regular Snapchat, just but you could well on Snapchat you can post like whatever you want. Right. It's pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_03I had Snapchat when it was earlier, and yeah, like 24 hours or disappeared, or even once they opened it, some people. So it but that's the same concept. There wasn't a lot of things.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so the private Snapchat would be like your account is private, and then when people pay, you add them as a friend.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06But there was a like a platform that would charge the recurring subscriptions and stuff like that. So it made it easier. Um, so when OnlyFans reached out to me, I was like, okay, yeah, I won't do this stupid Snapchat thing anymore. And I don't know, I was making like $200 a month at that time on OnlyFans, and I was like, hell yeah, $200, like fuck it, these followers, you know, not making any other money from them. Um, and yeah, but then during COVID, uh OnlyFans really popped off and I got off of it during COVID. Yeah. I did the opposite. Instead of getting rich, I was like, What makes you get off of it? Like um, the relationship I was in and whatever. Yeah, so I got off for two years, lost everything, and now now I'm back on it. Like, fuck that. I'll never get off that shit again.
SPEAKER_03But um You made I I you made a really good point that I never thought about until I heard you say it. OnlyFans, it's as a platform kind of sucks because there's no explore page. I can't sucks. You can't like it's very specific to the person. Like, you just gotta go to that page and then I guess go to other people's pages.
SPEAKER_06Of that person, that's what it's about. Yeah. And follow her there. Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_03I kind of thought about this when you were bringing up the tattoo thing, how people just get tattooed for anything. I feel like that now about like sex work and OnlyFans. Like, and like I feel like guys, girls, whatever the fuck, everybody's just kind of giving up on life and working a normal job or anything, just kind of going into it and like, oh, I'll figure it out later.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, listen, like, even though I'm on OnlyFans, like I don't recommend this shit to anybody. Even like my homeboys that are like, oh, I know this girl and she's willing to pay me half. The fucker. And I'm like, don't. And they're like, why? Like, what do you mean? And I'm just like, don't, bro. Like, the internet's forever. That's a real ass thing. The stigma with OnlyFans is fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_05Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06First, you can post whatever you want. If I wanted to post fucking workout videos on my OnlyFans, I could do that.
SPEAKER_03The stigma of OnlyFans.
SPEAKER_06I'm not saying that people are still gonna pay for my OnlyFans, but I could do that. You could do whatever you want. But the stigma, it's like you dating, you tell people you have OnlyFans, oh forget it. This girl's una loca, she's out in these fucking streets, she's doing whatever the fuck. No, they instantly take your porn straw. Automatic though? Exactly. Jobs obey that. Like people tell me, like, oh, why don't you work at this and that instead? Or like if you quit OnlyFans, why don't you? And I'm like, I have bro, there's a 10-year gap in my resume. What are you talking about? Where the fuck am I gonna work, bro? Like, I'm not working nowhere ever for the rest of my life. Like, what do you it's just the stigma's crazy, but I understand it because I could only speak for myself and for you know with the exp with the things that I've seen. Girls that do OnlyFans are fucking crazy. I don't give a fuck who's gonna get mad. 98% of them are fucking. They're parting, they're doing drugs, they're you know, doing the fucking most, doing the most. And then there's people like me, very small handful of people that are not doing the most, that aren't even fucking in real life. Like, we're home doing nothing. Like, we get online, we work, and we get the fuck off, and we have normal ass lives. But that but that's the stigma. But but I understand because I've seen it. Like, they have these content houses where you go shoot and everybody links up. I don't go to any of that, but the one time that I was like, let me see what this is about, everybody around me is fucking eating pills and snorting whatever, and I'm just like, oh that's what it's about. I'm like, I gotta go. Like, this is not my thing. Like, it's but I have built a fan base that understands like who I am as a person. So when I tell people, Oh, I I have a live on OnlyFans, they're thinking whatever the fuck they're thinking. My lives are like us making fun of each other. Like, my fans are like, damn, you couldn't put makeup on today, and I'm like, fuck you guys, like you don't mean shit to me, you know. And like, and we're talking about fights or sports or whatever, or I'm just complaining about my day, or I go on there and my last live I was literally eating. Like, I was like, listen, I'm hungry, and I said I was gonna be on at this time, but I'm hungry, so I'm gonna eat.
SPEAKER_03What kind of food were you eating?
SPEAKER_06I don't remember, probably steak or something.
SPEAKER_03Steak, just cutting steak.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Last night I ate two churracos. How do you like your chuckrade?
SPEAKER_02That's what your fans want to see though.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but and then they always tell me, like, you're the fucking realest bitch on OnlyFans, and like you're reals fuck on your lives, and you're yourself out all the time, and and that's another thing too, is like I know girls that do OnlyFans and they're like, hi. And they put on this like voice, and then I talk to them normal, and I'm like, yo, what's up? Yeah, I'm like, bro, just be yourself. Like it's so weird, it's so weird to fake who you are to get people to like you. Like, I I could never. I can never.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, being genuine is definitely um, I guess it in the fucked up way it's turned into a selling point because everybody's fake nowadays, so like you buy into the genuineness. I think that's why streaming is taking off, and I'm not a fan of streaming. Like, I think it's crazy to sit down and watch somebody do the RL streaming. And don't get me wrong, it's cool. I see like the the utility behind it, like for certain things. We streamed an episode like watching fights before. Um, but it's it's it's crazy to sit down and like watch people do the IRL streaming. But I do see where people that don't have lives are caught up in the crib and they're like, oh look, we're looking at these people out and about and having a life, and I guess they live by carosely through you.
SPEAKER_06Kids too. Kids be watching other kids play with toys.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, kids don't even know cartoons are on YouTube. I'm like Unpacking videos, uh I see that, but I that's I I guess that's more of as like an adult. I don't know. Well, I used to like reviews like and shit like that. I guess if you're You gotta play the shit too, it's different.
SPEAKER_06I guess if you're getting like toys that you don't know what's in them, like a mystery box type shit, and you want to see what someone got or whatever, but like watch like kids watching kids play.
SPEAKER_03We're living in crazy times. You're not a gamer then?
SPEAKER_06No. I I need to be though. Yeah, yeah, everyone.
SPEAKER_03What does that mean? I need to be. Oh yes, there is a market right now for baddies playing games. You could kill it like that. Karina Cump.
SPEAKER_02Karina Comp. She's the one that went down with uh David Dobrik.
SPEAKER_03Oh, she's she's the one that interviews people. Yeah, she interviews people and shit like that.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I think I'm talking about no, but like she plays on the thing and she took off. I I don't know.
SPEAKER_08I I can't imagine myself spending hours sitting in front of my TV.
SPEAKER_06I just can't. And if I am, I'm watching like cowboy shit or something.
SPEAKER_03Cowboy shit? Like uh cowboy movies?
SPEAKER_06Like um, like bro, I I just started re-watching Yellowstone. Yellowstone, that's what I was thinking of. Yellowstone, okay. Good? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And you went to uh the rodeo not too long ago, right? Shout out Mac Lawson. Fun of the show.
SPEAKER_06Big Mac Lawson, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Is that a thing for you? Rodeo? That's cool.
SPEAKER_06I'm really into like yeah, like that's my dream. My dream is to to like disappear on a fucking farm. Like you're saying join the radio, like well, I think I'm too old for that. I'll break my dam back on a horse right now when I turn up. I'm 28. Um, yeah, like those barrel rider girls that go around the fucking while. That's crazy. Wilding?
SPEAKER_01Entertaining as fuck, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Rodeos are fun though. It's it's a whole last like sporting event. It's a sporting event.
SPEAKER_03I've never been to one, but it gives me monster truck show vibes. I've been to like monster truck shows. Every time I see kids, it's kind of funny.
SPEAKER_08Bro, the next rodeo, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you know.
SPEAKER_06Cause I I l I'm not gonna say where I live, but I live in farmish area, you know, in Florida.
SPEAKER_02So There's a lot of room.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no, but like that's my shit. I literally bro. I go to to farms to do groceries.
SPEAKER_03Like drop a picture of Vanny on the Yellowstone farmer.
SPEAKER_06Fucking Montana. No, like I ri that's my dream for real. Like, I want to wake up and tend to animals and just like be out. Like, my dream is to have a kitchen outdoors. That's wrong. I want to cook outside. Yeah, like next to my pool. Like, I want to do everything outside. I love being in the sun.
SPEAKER_03But what what type of uh cooking equipment are we are we putting outside? A barbecue is really like the go-to thing outside, though.
SPEAKER_06You could have a whole ass kitchen outside, you could. You could have a stove, an oven, everything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you gotta have a little outdoor roof.
SPEAKER_06Shit, there's people in Hayalia with kitchens outside because they don't want to cook fish inside.
SPEAKER_03Facts. That is facts. That is facts.
SPEAKER_06Typical except except not in Haileah. Like somewhere in the Redlands, fucking, I just want to see nothing for a few acres, and yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you need a lot of land to do that in Hylia.
SPEAKER_02I guess lostrophobic down south. I want to go like up north.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, up north.
SPEAKER_03There's a lostrophobic claustrophobic. Lobstrophobic's crazy. That's like uh must say next time I go on a date and the girl wants lobster, I'm babe, I'm lobster phobic.
SPEAKER_06Honestly, lobster looks gross.
SPEAKER_03It's low-key. I think um it's it's it's uh fucking a roach. A roach, but there's a better term for this. They're not bottom feeders, they're bottom feeders, but they're decomposers, so they they break shit down and all that kind of stuff. So I think there's a conspiracy that like we're brainwashed into thinking that they're delicacies when they're like not even cooking roaches and shit like that. And they're bad, they're not healthy for you either. Shrimp are roaches, yeah. They're part of the same same chapter. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06It's gross. Yes, yes. You don't like seafood? I do, but I I'm like really selective. Even like the tuna that I buy is like low mercury, whatever.
SPEAKER_03Of course, uh fish is fish, yes, but I don't I I consider like fish like salmon, tuna, separate from like crustaceans, from like shrimp, same, and yeah, and you feel me, and lobsters. And I like I like both, don't get me wrong, but my mind, like all that, that's like kind of different things. You feel me? Like having coffin and all that, like I it just tastes different, and it's also healthy for you, like it tastes good. Like you feel me, brain food. Whereas I don't think lobsters and shrimps and all that's great.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I don't think so either. And honestly, like to me, lobster tastes like a sponge, and then that's why you need so much fucking butter.
SPEAKER_03Butter, yes, okay. It's a very bland food when you when you when you look at it from logistics for like why is it so expensive? It's not it's not the craziest thing. Yeah, it's brainwashing.
SPEAKER_06I hate crab legs. I hate working while I'm eating. Stone crab My God, like all that just give me the fucking meat, bro. Just like do like why can't they just do it for you and serve you the fucking crab legs in a massive bowl with your fat ass butter and whatever?
SPEAKER_03It is a mission. You're right.
SPEAKER_06What a fucking mission.
SPEAKER_03The the seafood bro right now, yeah. It's it's it's it's popular, but I've yet to go to actually eat there.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, that's another trend too, right?
SPEAKER_03You go and you get a the bag of food and it's like it's very ghetto. Don't get me wrong, and I've had it brought to me at the crib a couple times. It tastes good.
SPEAKER_06It looks good, but but I'm not cracking shit while I eat.
SPEAKER_03It is, yeah, I don't like to I don't like to get messy while eating. I've for a big reason I'm uh I'm not the biggest fan of ribs. You feel me?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I don't care for ribs either.
SPEAKER_03But wings are good, but I I've I've I think I've mastered the way of how to eat wings without getting messy. I also played out wings. I think I've ate way too many wings in my 31 years of living.
SPEAKER_06I like wings too.
SPEAKER_03What's your favorite kind of wing?
SPEAKER_06Lemon pepper. Lemon pepper? Larry's lemon pepper seasoning.
SPEAKER_03Lauri's? Yeah. Okay.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03In the air fryer. In the air fryer. Yeah. Jesus.
SPEAKER_06Larry's. I'm very specific. I like the autism.
SPEAKER_03You see, this is what I meant. Everybody thinks they're autistic. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_08I'm overstimulated. Let me have more caffeine.
SPEAKER_03Did you have a moment of autism or frustration that kicked in and you were like, yo, let me consolidate all my pages, all my brands, and all my ventures, my vanny vault. What was the moment?
SPEAKER_06Bro, I think of that like every other month. I'm like, what am I doing? I have 17 Instagram pages and shit. This is driving me crazy. Um, and then, you know, it pisses me off because I have my main page, and then one time I did a poll on my story, and I said, Should I separate my fitness stuff from my modeling stuff? And everyone voted yes. So I made a fitness page and all my gym stuff goes there. And then recently I was like, Should I start posting? No, recently on my main page, I did one of those QA things on my story, and I asked, Why do you follow me? And everyone was like, fitness.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_06I'm like, so why the fuck did y'all make me split the pages? Because now I'm posting twice.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's not a fucking bitch.
SPEAKER_06Like, whatever. But I still have both pages because at this point the brand deals that I get are completely separate. So I get I get hit up by a lot of brands for fitness stuff. So I just keep it separate, but now I've just been posting like skits and like unhinged that shit on my main page.
SPEAKER_03You made a concentrated effort to do that though this year, right? Versus all the other content you've been doing. Where'd that come from?
SPEAKER_06Honestly, all my content before was just like modeling shit, and it it does nothing. Photos don't get your page don't make your page grow. It's really reach so many people. Exactly. It's videos. Um, every video I was doing of a behind the scenes as a photo show of a photo shoot was getting flagged. Um, okay. And even videos of my face were getting flagged. Like I like to do like horror themed stuff for October and shit like that, like scary shit. And even if I had like a weird ass mouthpiece on and I was trying to be creative, it would get flagged. I I guess because they thought it was like a gag or some weird shit. So I was always getting flagged, so my page was really, really stuck. Um, so then I kind of started posting some gym stuff, and then I met A group of people who all do comedy skits and they were like, Hey, let's like shoot some skids. So I started filming with them, and um, yeah, now I kind of just post like whatever with like a crazy ass caption, and I use the word retard and stuff, and I guess fire, fire, fire. I posted a crazy ass one the other day.
SPEAKER_03And uh, you've always been sober. No.
SPEAKER_06Well I mean, I I drank when I was younger.
SPEAKER_03Drank, but never like smoked weed, never like No, not really.
SPEAKER_06Like I had my moments where I would smoke for like a week and then I just would stop.
SPEAKER_03What do you mean smoke for weed? Like you had one week that you smoked, or like a whole week where you're like, yo, I'm hanging out with stoner friends or smoking weed, like well both.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Like And then you just yeah, yeah. I could quit things like very easily, except the stupid nicotine vape.
SPEAKER_03That is fucking worse. Smoke a swear, fuck. I know. The convenience is really what fucks people up.
SPEAKER_06It's just terrible. It's fucking terrible. I did quit that too for a year. And then I picked it back up, so but yeah, I've never I've never been a smoker, not even like really a a drinker like that. I had moments where I would get drunk, but I was never like even wine with dinner. Not none of that shit. And now I don't drink.
SPEAKER_03Drinking with food is tough for me. I'll drink before food, after food maybe, but drinking at the same time as eating is crazy. It's tough. It's too much. Yeah, it really feels like. It's overstimulating. Fuck, here we go again. Jesus Christ. And your honest experience, are women really haters? Because I see all your skits and your friends with Mac Lawson, and I feel I see you're very friendly with other girls, so I don't get the the vibe of you know, you're friendly with other chicks, but are women haters? I feel like a lot of women have said that on the show and say that in general.
SPEAKER_06I think I think most problems people have is like a projection. I think if you're gonna call someone a hater, it's because you're low-key a fucking hater. Um, if you're coming from like a you know, a legit place when you're meeting people, there's no need to hate. Like the girls that I know now are people that I film with and we have that in common. And like Mac is fucking awesome. Like, I haven't known her for a long time, but I talk to that bitch like every day. Um, and we have a lot in common and we we all help each other. Like, there's no there's no hate, there's no envy within us, you know. I'm I'm sure there are there are girls that will look at you and be like, oh, like, you know, she thinks she's not bad or whatever.
SPEAKER_03You all also relate in a very specific way because you guys are are are baddies, chicks in Miami making content. Like that's very specific and unique. I'm more talking about like in general terms, like women in in general, like uh co-workers, like oh, this fucking girl, this and this and that. Like, I I feel like that's a common thing that goes on a lot. And like, I don't know, I'm a guy, so I'm not gonna be.
SPEAKER_06It does happen, but to me, it's just like you don't like me, ask yourself why you don't like me. What about me bothers you, bitch? Like, what's missing in you that you'll then bingo like that? Like thankfully, Vanny's not in corporate America. Like, what's your problem, bitch? No, but it's true. Like, when when there's something that you don't like about somebody, oh that that that bitch is so loud, or she's so this or she needs all this attention. Like, why don't you like that about me? Like, do you feel like you're missing that? Do you need attention? Are you very quiet and you wish you were louder? Like, to me, everybody we meet is a mirror, so fucking look at yourself. Hope the fuck? That's it. That's all I have to say about that.
SPEAKER_03Fire. I mean it wasn't for the whole, I'd say we put that in the opening, but you know, how type shit, type shit. Uh what's an ideal first date then for someone who doesn't drink, doesn't necessarily go out partying. You like to go out and do things, but you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06So it's so hard. It's so hard because when people say, Let's have a drink, I'm like, Oh, I don't drink. And then they don't even say, like, alright, coffee. They're just like, oh, like, it's okay, I'll drink. And I'm like, ew.
SPEAKER_02That is kind of a crazy response to that.
SPEAKER_06I'm like, what? One time this guy like asked for my number, I gave it to him, and then he was like, Let's go have a drink, and I said, I don't drink, and I'm expecting him to be like, okay, what do you want to do? Or like something.
SPEAKER_03Get ice cream and then oh, I don't eat sugar.
SPEAKER_06Some well, like something. And he was like, It's okay, I'll drink enough for the both of us.
SPEAKER_01Wild to think that that's a successful thing to do.
SPEAKER_06And I was like, that's I'm like, what? Like, what am I gonna drink? Fucking water? Like, I'm gonna go out with you to drink water? This is crazy.
SPEAKER_03But um You're autistic.
SPEAKER_06And and it's also it's fucked up too because it's hard for me to go on dates because of OnlyFans. Then people ask me to go on dates, and I'm like, oh, I don't really eat out. Like, I'm very specific about where I eat and what I eat. I don't do seed oils or none of that shit. But then I like to do crazy shit. Like, I would like let's go write an ATV then or like get on a boat and go fish or whatever. But I don't first date on a boat on a first date with somebody.
SPEAKER_05Wild.
SPEAKER_06So then I'm just like and then the movies is a terrible first date because you can't talk.
SPEAKER_03Is terrible because you don't build, but I think the movie date, I think the way to do it is you eat after the movie because then you recap and like you talk about the shit, or maybe before type shit. I think there's gotta be a there's gotta be a little bit more structure, but it can be a first date. It can't just be a strange thing. It can't be a first date with a stranger. Yeah, it can't be a stranger.
SPEAKER_06No, no. I don't know. I don't know what I haven't been on a first date in a long fucking time, so I don't even know. If somebody asked me right now to go the beach, maybe the beach, the beach, but then that's also weird because girls don't like it because like you're in a bikini the first time, like that.
SPEAKER_02That's what it is too, okay.
SPEAKER_06I know, but also like everybody sees me in a bikini minimum. So okay, that is true.
SPEAKER_03So you got you does that really even factor into that? Okay.
SPEAKER_06I don't know. I don't know the rules. That's why I'm single.
SPEAKER_03Well, these are your rules. This is your fucking game here.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I mean, I don't I really I don't know. Nobody asked me on dates, so I don't even have to think about it, you know. So it's it's just non-existent.
SPEAKER_03Dating market of Miami and Earth, what's going on here?
SPEAKER_06No, it's it's also Miami, like it's bad.
SPEAKER_03And like uh because of the social environment? It's bad.
SPEAKER_06It's bad. And I used to think, oh, it's it's only fans, it's this, it's that, like whatever. No, it's bad. Like my friends that have regular ass jobs aren't dating or they're getting cheated on or whatever. It's bad.
SPEAKER_03As a guy who's been single for far too long, for some reason, part of me wants to like push back there because like I feel like dating's bad everywhere though. Because I hear this all the time from homies, and they're like, Oh bro, I'll never find a wife from Miami, bro. I gotta get out of here, bro. I gotta go to Orlando, I gotta go to kissing me.
SPEAKER_08It's like Orlando.
SPEAKER_03Like, I look at them like what do you think? There's not girls turning up and being thoughts out there, like that's everywhere, brother.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but at least everything there closes at like one in the morning, so they're less thoughty than here.
SPEAKER_03But my point is that girl who's being less thoughty because the place closes at one. The second you move to Miami, or the second you find somewhere else, or the second the second she has another coworker that is turned up all night, like obey it also, like that's that's that's being with somebody for the wrong reasons. You feel me? Like, I don't know. I I feel like it's it's more of like uh kind of like you said, it's a reflection thing, and it's like you also gotta be conscious of where you're meeting people at.
SPEAKER_06Like, I have homies that you're not gonna meet your wife at a club.
SPEAKER_03And they have friends that strictly go out with chicks that they meet at clubs or go on first dates at clubs, and it's they pull their trick at clubs, it's like force, you know? It's like what is what are we doing?
SPEAKER_06Like, yeah. I mean, I have friends that live in other states, and they they don't ever say that it's as bad as Miami. Like, they're like, oh, it's not like that in Texas. But then I'm like, okay, but you have been in a relationship for three years, homegirl. So you don't know what it's like in these streets.
SPEAKER_03Um and social media is makes everything tougher, really. The surplus of options, the surplus of options is is truly a psychological thing that I think happens. Yeah, you could be happy as fuck at the crib, but you open your phone and you're like, oh shit, you feel me? You see all this crazy.
SPEAKER_06It's overstimulating. Yeah, no, and it's fucked up too because like you could be in a relationship and then you start liking some other bitches' pictures or whatever, and I feel fucked up because I got like married motherfuckers in my DMs. Like, married as fuck, and I'm like, you're a fucking dirtbag. And sometimes I block them because liking pictures is fucked up.
SPEAKER_03Liking pictures are cheating.
SPEAKER_06It depends what the picture is. If it's your homegirl like this, and whatever, fine. If you're liking a bunch of like Instagram hoes pictures, why are you giving energy to this bitch? Like what that's you when you like someone's picture, you know they're gonna see it. You know they're gonna see it. So why the fuck do you need this girl to know you liked her fucking picture if you don't know this bitch? She doesn't know who the fuck you are. You're just one of them fucking.
SPEAKER_03Hold on, hold on, hold on. So I I don't connect with that because I think so so I don't know. So what's going on? Well, that's not simping. Simping is is is you're paying for something and you're okay with not being with the chick. I don't connect with that being simping. I it's I struggle with this because what about the person who's just supporting and just saying, yo, fuck, here's a fucking like, here's a fucking fire emoji.
SPEAKER_02Like I feel you, yeah, but like Vanny's from Haileyah. So I like her shit. I see her shit, I'll like it.
SPEAKER_06Like, yeah, but you know me. But that's what I'm saying. If it's your homegirl, that's different. If you know this person, that's different. If you've worked with them, that's different. If they're your fucking cousin, whatever.
SPEAKER_03What if you're just being supportive to somebody, an artist you fuck with?
SPEAKER_06If you're if you have a girlfriend, why are you supporting La Media Fucking Encuera? What why does she need your support?
unknownThanks.
SPEAKER_06She has the support of um 1.2 million other motherfuckers, but the one with a girlfriend looking for him at home, I get that.
SPEAKER_03I get that.
SPEAKER_06That's my point.
SPEAKER_03And and one thing is is just doing it all the time. Once your partner says, hey, that's not cool, then you understand. Oh, corner, this is this is not cool. And like, you know, then you change perspective, and that's you know, that that's part of that. But I do kind of feel like like I hear too much, like there's too much um I guess stake and too much value put into the whole liking thing. And it's like, I don't think liking is necessarily cheating per se. You feel me? Like, there has to be like steps. You feel me? Like, look, looking up with a person is not the same as hey, that's a fucking hot picture. And like, and honestly, I think in my ideal partner, I should be able to tell my partner, like, my vision of what the person I want to end with is like that's a bad bitch, right, baby? Yeah, that's a fucking badass bitch. Like, I don't want to be with a girl that I'm like, oh shit, that's a bad thing.
SPEAKER_06But that's come but that's completely different than sending energy to that bad bitch by liking her picture.
SPEAKER_03Because that's a one-on-one thing. Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_06A lot of a lot of people like they call it like and keeping it from your chick. Right. Exactly. And the other thing is too, like, we as women, we don't want to look dumb. Especially if we're legit, fucking loyal, faithful ass girls that are like doing right by you, like, and then you like some girl's picture, and then my friend sees it, oh, your man is fucking liking this shit, and then you're like, bro, like, why are you making me look like that? Like, I'm not liking these motherfucking guys' pictures. And I'm one of those girls that married guys are in my DMs, but like I will literally block them. Like, there's been times where married guys will send me like dick pics. Wow, and I will find their fucking wife and be like, get your man. Like, this is fucking gross. Like, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. Like, don't do that shit. It's weird, it's weird as fuck.
SPEAKER_03But people are so stupid, man. They have wives on the faces that they're being wild like that.
SPEAKER_02Your morality is is part of what makes you dope.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I like, but that's the thing. Like, I've always been honest. Like I said, like I I really do the right thing. I really do my whole life. Like, I've always tried my hardest to do the right thing and to do right by people, and that's why I take everything so literally. Because I in my mind, everybody should be like that. Like, just don't fucking lie. Whatever. If you want to like a girl's picture, if you know her, cool, but don't make me look dumb. Like, it's the same as like when you take a girl somewhere and someone in there has fucked her and you're the only one that doesn't know, you know, and and it's like that feeling of like but do you want the girl?
SPEAKER_03Hold on, but that's that's an interesting scenario. That's a very interesting scenario because I used to be insecure, I think, growing up as a fat kid. So I feel like growing up that would be something I'd struggle with. Now that I'm older, I don't give a fuck. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like, let everybody know, let everybody laugh. Oh, fuck, girl. Like, I don't give a fuck, she's with me now. You think I care? I know any partner I'm with 100 times out of a hundred is bad partners before me. Like, stupid. Like, I hear girls. I want a virgin wife, a virgin girl, my girl needs to be a virgin. I laugh at it. High value. Why do you even want that? You need a person to go through the shit in life like that. Yeah, like what do you like? That's just a weird thing. But besides that, back to that scenario of like you're in a social environment with a partner, there's ex uh partners of their like or whatever. It doesn't even have to be an ex-partner. Hookups happen, life shit happens. You think the girl should tell the guy, or the guy should tell the girls? It could be both ways, too.
SPEAKER_06Maybe not necessarily like, oh, you see that guy over there? I fucked him a long time ago.
SPEAKER_03No, but maybe go about it too. But there's a no no no.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, maybe not like that. But I've been in scenarios where I've been out with a guy and they're like, look, just so you know, like the girl over there is my ex.
SPEAKER_02That's a cool way to go about it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but yeah, and I'm like, okay, cool, like, whatever. And at that point, I don't give a fuck. But if he didn't tell me, and for some reason I found out whatever the fuck, and I'm like, and I'm like, you didn't tell me that this girl was your ex.
SPEAKER_03But what if he approached it like that? I didn't want to fucking be awkward. Like, but like I I do think the right way is to get ahead of it. Get ahead of it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, get ahead of it. Like, why, why even make it a thing? Why, and it's like, I don't want to be awkward, okay? So you kept something, so to me that's a fucking lie. So I don't know. I'm autistic as fuck. We already established this.
SPEAKER_03You're selective of what you put out, so I've never seen none of the vaping shit.
SPEAKER_06Nah, yeah. I mean, lately I've I've been like pretty unhinged, but it's working, so I'm like, whatever.
SPEAKER_03Okay, uh travel. Where would you like to travel to and do the podcast out or just in general? In the states and out of the states. What's the next place you want to travel to?
SPEAKER_06Um I don't know. I I wanna be everywhere, but I fucking hate traveling. I hate I hate airports. Wants friends? Doesn't wanna I know you need a private job. We need to get a vanny private. I need a PJ. That's what they call them now. I didn't know that until recently. But I don't know. I really want to go to DR. I've never been there, even though my family's. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01That's like starter deck travel.
SPEAKER_06I know honestly, I really love Mexico. Mexico's fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_03Where have you been to in Mexico? Like deep in Mexico?
SPEAKER_06I literally went to Tijuana and I had such a good time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Tijuana's turned up. I've seen it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I did DMT there. What? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03In what setting? What's the city?
SPEAKER_06With a sha with a shaman and everything.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. That was cool.
SPEAKER_03Are you like in a hotel?
SPEAKER_06It was like an Airbnb, like uh like a condo Airbnb.
SPEAKER_03Condo? Okay, like this is like metro metropolitan, like in a city.
SPEAKER_06It was like like the water, like shit. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It was cool. Yeah. DMT's nuts. What was the trip like? It's really short, it's only like six minutes, five minutes.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but they so there was people there um doing ayahuasca and stuff like that, but I got scared as fuck because those are like I don't know, hours, and I don't think I could handle that. But they were saying like DMT gets you to the peak of ayahuasca, but in like five minutes instead of like the highs and lows. Um yeah, so I I smoke DMT and like it feels like you're dying. And every time I explain it to people, they're like, oh no, I'm not doing that shit. It feels like you're about to die and you're fighting it, and then like you just have to let go and like let yourself die. And then once you lay back, you you see whatever you see. It's like to me, it looked very Alice in Wonderland-y, like stripes, and it looked like I was like in a slide of stripes and stuff like that, and I was hearing like weird languages I've never heard. Um, but the end result for everybody is the same thing, it's that nothing matters. So, like everyone that I saw that did DMT that day would like come out of it like, Oh, what am I mad about? This was stupid, that was dumb. Everything's fine, everything's fake, whatever. And yeah, and then you're like living on cloud line nine for a couple months after. So that was yeah, that was fun.
SPEAKER_03Is that your first and only time like dealing with psychedelics or have you done other stuff?
SPEAKER_06I've done like mushrooms and stuff like that in the past, but that was the first time that I did DMT, and then I did it like two times after that in Miami.
SPEAKER_03Cool. But turned up. So go back to Mexico or DR.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I would like to start there.
SPEAKER_03I cut you off. What were you gonna say? It's just what?
SPEAKER_06Um, I forgot. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It's all good.
SPEAKER_06I want to go to Vegas too soon because my friend is a rock climber and she really wants to take me rock climbing.
SPEAKER_03Have you ever been to Vegas?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, but you said rock climbing, which is different. You usually when people say Vegas, they want to go to the strip and gambling and all this.
SPEAKER_06No, I I that's what I yeah, when I've gone before, that's what I've gone for. Okay. But now I want to go for like the mountains and shit. Like that's cool.
SPEAKER_03That's cool.
SPEAKER_06She's like hanging off the side of buildings and she's like, I'll take you. Like, it's so fun. You'll be safe. I'm like, alright, her and her boyfriend are rock climbers. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_03Wild. Yeah. Are you uh familiar with uh Alex Arnold, the free climber? Mm-mm. Free climbing is uh they climb mountains without the the harnesses, so like you fall, you're done.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Wow. No, nothing to it, but it's just that's crazy.
SPEAKER_06She took me to a rock climbing gym here when she came to visit. That shit is hard.
SPEAKER_03I haven't I've tried it like not in a long time though. Nothing's really hard.
SPEAKER_06No, and like honestly, legs too, because when you're short and you can't reach, you need to push off with your legs from these little rocks. And I was like, I struggled.
SPEAKER_03Even stronger people, like when I think of rock climbing, I think of that. I think of the people putting their legs up and all these crazy positions. Like, you need the legs to compensate the parts we can't reach.
SPEAKER_06I really underestimated, like, I knew it was difficult, and they have like difficulty levels, like one through ten or whatever, and the the little routes and shit. So we started at like one, and I flew up the wall, and she was like, Okay, let's and I ended up getting to like I think like a six or seven.
SPEAKER_03That's cool. That kind of makes it more appealing. I want to try it on us.
SPEAKER_06There's a really cool um gym, I'll send it to you. But yeah, that that was hard. It was really fun though. I actually wanted to join the gym, but you're in Miami? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Is it the one over there like off of the 112?
SPEAKER_06No, but I saw that one. I drove by that one. Um, no, but the one I'm talking about is like in Fort Lauderdale or something. But it was really cool. There was a lot of people there too. Like, I wouldn't expect like Floridians would be like at a rock climbing gym, but there's things to do out in Florida and Miami outside of clubs. You just need friends to do that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, or meet people there. You could also do that too, you know. I like going places without a plus one sometimes. I like going places, you know, um alone? Yeah, alone. I was gonna say single, but no, just alone doesn't have to necessarily be single. Yeah, you know, you meet people there, and it forces you almost to have to do that. You have to. Otherwise, you're just kind of standing by yourself.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but even like in the regular gym, like I don't really talk to people. Like, I don't know. I'm just in there to work out and do my shit and get the fuck out.
SPEAKER_03But gym's different because gym's very like almost religious, where it's like I don't talk to nobody at the gym. I've seen people for years, and it's just you feel me. It's very I wouldn't even say it's more like are done with the weights.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, there's a few people that will like wave to me at the gym and I'm right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_06That's that's that's like they'll never know their names, but that's like a rite of passage.
SPEAKER_03Once you go to the gym long enough, you have a couple of you just because you go at the same time, it's the same people. Just consistency, yeah. As a fat guy, I've always had this complaint where I've been in the gym and the fat guy's blinking me like and I'm like, damn, we're not on the same level. What's up, brother? Like I'm like, oh yeah? Like, you motherfucker. Uh, what about the uh website? Talk to me about the website. Are you still putting that together?
SPEAKER_06So um I have my friend working on it. She's an app developer, but um, we're working on a website where I'm gonna have like a page that's behind a paywall for OnlyFan style content, but on my website, but it's gonna be a lot more like personalized to the fan. So yeah, we have a bunch of ideas for that shit, but it's we kind of like paused for a second. She was going th with through some like health stuff or whatever, but um, but yeah, I it's also gonna have like a fitness side to it as well, and I wanna start selling like programs and stuff like that again. Um that's the goal, so I could put everything there behind. Yeah, kind of just have everything on my own on my own site. Cool.
SPEAKER_03Is it gonna be like a name for it, or do you have any working idea? Like it's gonna be just official.
SPEAKER_06It's probably just like vannyvisous.com, which is what it is now, it's just gonna be a lot cooler soon. Right now it's like whatever. Okay, merch and shit.
SPEAKER_03And uh for the podcast, for those that don't know, Voice of Vicious, right?
SPEAKER_06Voice of Vicious podcast. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Every episode we have the shoot your shot game, so I open up the platform for my guests to uh shoot your shot basically as somebody you'd want on the podcast or to create content with anything like that.
SPEAKER_06On my podcast? Yeah. You gotta come on my podcast.
SPEAKER_03I'm there, you let me know. I'm on there. We do that.
SPEAKER_06I used to record every Friday. That shit's hard. Once a week is fucking hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's uh you can't yeah, I I banked episodes. I have banked episodes, so I think that's just if you're busy and you have a lot of life going on, it's you have to be realistic with it.
SPEAKER_06And I had a studio space too, but I moved it into my house in an extra room, so it's like you know, dogs. They make any noise. How many dogs do you have? I have a Pitbull American Bulldog mix. Nice, and I have a French Bulldog.
SPEAKER_03Nice both boys, yeah.
SPEAKER_06They're like teenagers.
SPEAKER_03Testosterone.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they're they're like teenage boys.
SPEAKER_03Like a mama vicious in the crib. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06No, the the big one, he's only six, but he's like he's he loves me so much, it's like insane. Like he looks at me like he's obsessed with me, and then he'll put his Head like right here, and he just like stays there. And I'm like, fuck, you're the best thing ever. The little one doesn't give a fuck about anybody.
SPEAKER_03I think the bigger the dog, the smaller the brain. So I think they're like big and lovable, and the smaller or more conniving and like yeah.
SPEAKER_06The little one just he doesn't care. The Frenchie, he's like, Oh, you're home? Whatever.
SPEAKER_02But that's how Frenchies are. Yeah, he's like cute. Yeah, they're cute, but they're not low. Affectionate.
SPEAKER_06He's cuddly, like if you put him on the bed, he'll be cuddly as fuck. But once he's walking around, his balls just swinging, he's like, bitch.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're very manipulative. My English bulldogs are like that.
SPEAKER_06And also he's 13 already, so he's OG. Yeah. So he's just like, leave me alone, bitch. Fuck you.
SPEAKER_03He's done his playing. I've I've paid my dues. Yeah. That's his younger.
SPEAKER_06The other one doesn't leave me alone, but him, I won't see him all day, and I'm like, where the fuck is my dog? And he's just sleeping. He's just sleeping.
SPEAKER_03Do you do you want kids? Like actual kids? Not doggy kids?
SPEAKER_06Um, I never did, and then as I got older, I was like, maybe, but now I'm like when? When I'm 50? Like when? I ha first of all, I have to meet someone who wants to deal with them forever, want to have their kid, have a kid, and then I'm gonna be 39. Like I don't wanna I don't wanna be 50 when my kid is 10. Like I don't know. And also the clock, you know.
SPEAKER_03Is that you? You got a bomb to go? You don't hear a beeping?
SPEAKER_06You don't hear the little beep?
SPEAKER_01We're crazy.
SPEAKER_02We're beeping right now.
SPEAKER_01It's still beeping, my brother. This is hilarious.
SPEAKER_06You really don't hear that?
SPEAKER_02You guys hear beeping? Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's really many. You're both equally crazy. We have the same strand of craziness. It's the autism.
SPEAKER_06We picked up serious autism, you are just deaf. We have a chromosome. Wait, it stopped.
SPEAKER_03Now it stopped. Now we look crazy. Now we look crazy.
SPEAKER_06It was his watch, right?
SPEAKER_03It was had to be your fucking watch. So it's crazy you didn't hear it. Whatever. That was hilarious. I'm gonna have to edit a beeping noise in the background for them to hear it. It 100% has to come out. Like, what are you gonna do? I'm gonna have to edit a beeping noise now.
SPEAKER_06Oh, so oh, put in the beeping noise. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What am I gonna do? Let my audience be like the audience putting their own. We're both like this. What is that? No way me and Vanny are gonna look crazy. What is that?
SPEAKER_08Wait, what's that beeping sound?
SPEAKER_03Oi, um, we end every episode with the game, the big three draft. You have tattoos everywhere. I have tattoos nowhere except one place.
SPEAKER_08Nowhere except one place.
SPEAKER_03Join the Patreon to find out.
SPEAKER_08Only fans.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we have Patreon. I have not only fans yet. But only hands, we never know, baby.
SPEAKER_01We might come out with a hey.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, we could do the the shadow, you know, the what's it called? Shadow puppets? Yeah. Cheap, free. That's a show.
SPEAKER_03We could just do hands. I was gonna draw your face and tattoos on your hands and just we don't really have face tattoos, so no.
SPEAKER_06I have like on the side.
SPEAKER_03We'll have to pick people like we'll have to get like little sunglasses to put them on like wherever we decide to put your eyes. And then under wherever the neck is, we'll just draw tattoos on your hands.
SPEAKER_06But yeah. Yeah. People I've worked with and yeah.
SPEAKER_03And like places, do you like uh do you have like tattoos that remind you of a place that you just got at a place? Like I have friends like Jackson, my boy Jackson, he gets a tattoo everywhere he travels to.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I got one when I went to Chicago. Um I got a hot dog because they eat so many hot dogs in fucking Chicago.
SPEAKER_02Crazy tattoo together.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I had it like in here, but now I blacked out my arm, so that's gone.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you don't see the hot dog in there?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no. I had so much stupid shit. No, it was a bunch of shit, and that's why my arm is fucking black. So like I just blacked out my whole arm because That's very trippy though. I started very young, you know, so I I had a bunch of random stupid shit because I worked in the shop like experimenting. Yeah, and it's just you're with a bunch of artists all day and we're bored, and we're playing video games, and we're like, hey, like you wanna do a rose really quick right here, or whatever. So I didn't get many like traveling, but I got a lot from the people that I worked with just out of sheer boredom, which is not recommended.
SPEAKER_03So I don't know if I have autism, but I definitely have ADHD because or ADD because I forgot why I brought up the tattoos. We end every episode with the big three draft. So today we're gonna draft. I don't know if we go best or worst, which uh most painful, I think, is the direction. Most painful places to get tattooed at. And we'll go one by one, whatever you pick, I can't pick, and so on and so forth.
SPEAKER_06How are you gonna pick if you don't have any tattoos?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna assume and I'm gonna pick tattoos.
SPEAKER_06What do you assume is the worst?
SPEAKER_03I assume the worst if you have to pick one place specifically. That's the way I want people to approach the game. Like, of course, personal experience weighs in too, but I also like the concept of the the draft subject today is the worst pain. So I think the worst place to get tatted is your eyeballs. I've seen people get tatted in their eyeballs. I'm like, how the fuck does that work?
SPEAKER_06It's an injection though.
SPEAKER_03Yes, but it still I think falls in the the tattoo category and retarded looking every time I see it. Like, just get contact. I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah, but hey, shout out to everybody with uh eye tattoos. I need somebody uh eye tattoos on the popcorn.
SPEAKER_06There was this guy that I knew that got his eye tattooed and it like leaked and stained his face.
SPEAKER_02A lot of things could go wrong.
SPEAKER_06Like it went, like I don't know, it like dripped. Yeah, something happened and it stained his face, and then he had like a green mark. It looked like he got punched in the eye.
SPEAKER_03Forever.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, forever. It's just that's sad.
SPEAKER_03Okay, what's the problem?
SPEAKER_06Okay, most number one most painful that I can remember was the top of my feet.
SPEAKER_03Top of your feet? So like where the bones are, okay.
SPEAKER_06And it's just bony and whatever.
SPEAKER_03That is all bone cards. Okay, so my second pick, then I'll say uh I I think I guess you have to say private parts. I think uh private parts is that's crazy too. I've heard tattoos of of people getting that, and it's like wild.
SPEAKER_06Probably. I can't speak on that from experience. But you know what hurts too? The inside of your arm near your armpit.
SPEAKER_03That that's okay. That's the tender ear. I think that's what I'm going for my third picture.
SPEAKER_06No, like right in it, bro. That shit it makes you want to like punch the artist. Like it's just this annoying, like right there. Yes, like it feels like the needle's here, but it feels like something's ripping tendons like out of your actual armpit. Like it's really uncomfortable. People say the elbow, uh-huh. But I don't mind the elbow.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, elbow's really hard. I don't people knock people out. I watch UFC fighting and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but I don't mind that smirk people. I think the elbow freaks people out because you can like hear, like brrrrrr, like when it's touching the bone.
SPEAKER_03That's probably a trippy thing.
SPEAKER_06But it doesn't hurt. The inside of the arm sucks. Fuck.
SPEAKER_03Um, then what's the worst uh most painful place to get tatted? We did armpits, what you said, right? And top of foot. Huh. Prior to eyes. I feel like neck, you could kind of just muscle it out.
SPEAKER_06The neck is not bad at all.
SPEAKER_03I think ribs, a lot of people say, but I'm thinking is ribs up there is most painful. I think there's gotta be something a little bit more painful in the ribs. I feel like that feet. What's painful? It's like the back of your ear painful?
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_06Imagine where you wouldn't want to get scratched by a cat repeatedly.
SPEAKER_03Uh we said my eyes and my penis. Who else?
SPEAKER_06The back of the knees suck too.
SPEAKER_03Back of the knees, really? Yeah, bro. Oh, I guess because you it is soft. It is softy.
SPEAKER_06But like straighten out your leg and just scratch the back of your knee like hard. Like that's that's I think I'm a psychopath because that kind of feels relieving. He's like, Wait, I had an inch actually. No, the back of the knees suck. The calves suck.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so that would be your last pick tonight. My last pick, I'll say uh damn. Oh, like lip tattoo, like mouth tattoos, right? Those hurt, yeah. Well, lip tattoo did not hurt. That's that's what I have. Oh, spoiler alert. But uh I guess like a tongue tattoo would be kind of crazy, right? People get that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but that's like pointless. It doesn't even stay.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't stay, right? It goes away right now.
SPEAKER_06The thing with like the lip and the fingers and stuff is like they hurt, but they're so small that it's fast. So I don't even count those as like painful because they're done in like a minute, like whatever.
SPEAKER_03Oh, what about like nipples? The nipples hurt you like that too?
SPEAKER_06Piercing them fucking hurt.
SPEAKER_03Nipples are fucking delicate, bro. I've got something called runner's nipple. Like we did like a 10-mile run, me and Jack. What the fuck is that? We went from downtown to the beach and back, and it was at night, and my nipples just started burning, and I searched online.
SPEAKER_06From like bouncing?
SPEAKER_03I I think it was bouncing. I think it's more ChatGPT said it was more from I think um, I guess the the the I was wearing like a dry fit shirt, like a when it was rubbing.
SPEAKER_01I that that makes sense.
SPEAKER_03The breeze and whatever the fuck and rubbing, like almost like chafing type of thing. Almost like getting palau. It was like getting palau on my nipples, but I never experienced that in my life. So if tat getting tattooed is anything close to that on your nipples, albeit this.
SPEAKER_08Drying over a dry fit shirt. Imagine a tattoo.
SPEAKER_03Right. So they nipple tattoos. Anyone with nipple tattoos out there, I fucking I know. Show us show us. Yes, send it to the Patreon. Uh last message to the world before we get out of here, Vanny. What's something you want uh people to know?
SPEAKER_06Follow me on Instagram. That's it.
SPEAKER_03They probably already do you had more followers in Eminem out there.
SPEAKER_06Follow me on YouTube, follow me on TikTok. My TikTok sucks.
SPEAKER_03Did you get that TikTok?
SPEAKER_06Up a bitch on TikTok. That's it.
SPEAKER_03Type shit. Yeah, on Facebook. It's a fact.
SPEAKER_02On Facebook. That's so dope.
SPEAKER_03Do you have a favorite Eminem song?
SPEAKER_06Damn. White America, probably. America!
SPEAKER_03Wow, that's a great fucking pick. Wow. Maybe that one. That's a good one. And my dad hates on Eminem, but that is a good song. That's a very that whole album. That is a very unique pick.
SPEAKER_06That's a good fucking song.
SPEAKER_02And I don't hate on him. I just like he's not my bag, like M O T, like you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03America. Whether you're white, black, whatever color you are, honestly. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next week. Peace.
SPEAKER_08That was fun.
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