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Super Sex
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Welcome to Supersex—the podcast where you get to dive into all things sex and relationships without it ever getting boring!
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Episode 46: Your Guide to Sex Parties with Dream Kitty
Step behind the velvet curtain of Perth's exclusive sensuous world with Dream Kitty, the female powerhouse revolutionising the city's swingers party scene. In what might be the most eye-opening conversation we've had on Super Sex, Dream Kitty shatters stereotypes about lifestyle parties while revealing how her coaching background creates uniquely safe spaces for sexual exploration.
"Most people going to these parties for the first time have never been seen naked by more than one person," she explains, detailing how she personally guides nervous newcomers through their fears. Unlike the seedy male-dominated spaces you might imagine, her female-led events prioritize consent, comfort and connection—a formula that's earned her more validation in three years than hosts with a decade in the game.
Dream Kitty takes us through the fascinating psychology of attendees, from single men battling performance anxiety to women discovering bisexual desires they've kept hidden for years. We explore why Perth has become Australia's unexpected epicenter for the lifestyle scene, and how these events often strengthen rather than weaken relationships through enhanced communication and boundary-setting.
With international luxury lifestyle vacations in Bali and Thailand that sell out in minutes, themed parties with bus transportation to secret locations, and women-only events that create judgment-free zones for exploration, Dream Kitty is crafting experiences that transcend typical notions of "swingers parties." Whether you're lifestyle-curious or simply fascinated by human sexuality, this conversation offers rare insight into a world where adults rediscover the freedom of play—sexual and otherwise.
Curious about dipping your toes into the lifestyle? Follow Dream Kitty on Instagram or Red Hot Pie to learn about upcoming events, including her Halloween Soiree in October and Summer Sins in December. Just be sure to book early—these parties sell out faster than concert tickets!
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All right, folks, strap in or maybe strap on, because today's super sex episode is a juicy one. I'm joined by the fabulous Dream Kitty, the woman behind some of the most exclusive sensual swingers parties in the whole of Perth. We're diving into what it's really like to attend one of these events for the first time yes, nerves, excitement and all the sweaty-palmed, awkward glory. Dream Kitty walks us through how she helps newbies navigate their emotions, the red flags to watch out for, and why her female-led events feel totally different from the typical male-organized scene. Oh, and we're definitely getting into the international adventures too. These international lifestyle vacations sound like they're straight out of an erotic Bond film. So pour a drink, get comfy and let's open the door to the party behind the party. Hey, to all the straights, gays and nays, welcome to Super Sex, the podcast where we have conversations and share our perspectives on sexuality, sex and more. I'm Sherman and I'm Jordan Two friends, one straight one gay taking on all things sex.
Speaker 1:All right, guys. Today we have Dream Kitty in the studio, but we are also joined by Tash Wilson, who's stepping in for Sherman because he's on his bloody holidays. Lucky bugger. But, ladies, how are we All good?
Speaker 3:Good. Yes, thank you for having me. I absolutely love this red chair, by the way.
Speaker 1:It's great, isn't it?
Speaker 3:So comfortable. If you guys could see. We are sitting here like queens, aren't we on these chairs?
Speaker 2:I might nap.
Speaker 1:You might have.
Speaker 2:Give her half an hour, 40 minutes before you do that sure.
Speaker 1:It sort of sucks because, like, I'm sitting here in this horribly hard chair and then you guys have got this comfy one, so I'm like yeah.
Speaker 4:I know.
Speaker 1:You chair, and then you guys have got the comfy one. So I'm like yeah, I know, you know you are being treated like queens today and you're in chairman's chair as well, so it's even better. Okay, all right, but I want to start this off because I don't know, and I might be completely in the wrong here, but it seems as though there is this new sort of golden age of how how can I say it lifestyle parties coming about at the moment. There's a different style party for pretty much everybody who's wanting to get in there, but the thing that I have noticed is that pretty much you're the only one, in WA at least, who I understand. I mean, I think it might be one other, but you're the premier one who's a female hosting these parties.
Speaker 3:Well, firstly, is this microphone? Okay, yeah it's good. Yeah, look, I don't want to blow my own trumpet, obviously, but at the same time, I'm pretty proud of what I've achieved.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Especially, it'll be three years in September that I ran my first ever event and we won't. If we were to go back to that story, it would take about two hours. So, look, I believe there are a couple of other female event hosts definitely not anyone that runs event as regular as me and has done as many as me in the last three years let's just call it three years. Even my profile on Red Hot Pie and I can explain what Red Hot Pie is for anyone that doesn't know.
Speaker 2:Love Red Hot Pie. Yes, here I am in the corner, like love it.
Speaker 3:You know they have been amazing with my business. Even my profile has something like 85 validations on there for someone that's been in the industry for not even three years and they're all from my parties, people that have met me, from my women's events and, to be honest, I've got more validations than some of these event hosts that have been in the industry for 10 years. So, yeah, I would say I'm probably the most well-known or dream kitty DK, definitely in the lifestyle scene in WA. Yeah, I'm even starting to get inquiries from people, not internationally, but interstate, wow.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow In the last few weeks. Yeah, because it makes sense, though, because when you inquire around that sort of lifestyle party scene, you get given a couple of names and they're normally sort of tiered, but your name keeps coming back as the top. Let's go.
Speaker 1:You know like if you're going to go to a party, you've got to go to this one and you've got to go to that one and then everything else, like sort of join in whenever you can, but they're the ones that you've got to aim for. And I do wonder how much of that is just because you're so anal with your preparation and like planning and everything around that Very OCD, let's say OCD with it.
Speaker 2:That's how you get a successful business.
Speaker 3:Hello, I know Totally Very OCD, let's say OCD with it.
Speaker 1:That's how you get a successful business. Hello, I know Totally. I mean these sort of parties. People from the outside sort of look at them and go swingers parties. They're imagining like 50-year-old fat dudes just standing around just like looking lecherously at some young girl who's come in. And it's just like there's always this seedy thought process.
Speaker 2:Mine's from the movies where everyone puts their keys in the bowl and you pick out the keys and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:That's what.
Speaker 2:I envision in it's like everyone puts their keys in the bowl.
Speaker 3:Everyone's got such a perspective and I think where I differ and we can dive into this a bit more I think it is the parties are definitely.
Speaker 3:I've always said it has a lot to do with the host and how the host makes you feel and I have a very common theme with all my kind words and validations. And I felt safe, I felt comfortable, I felt welcomed, I felt seen. A lot of the event hosts out there I'm not naming names, they're just like, okay, cool, yep, they've got a ticket, yep, you know, I really I think it's from my background and where I've come from. With the coaching and I was a coach and a mentor and a healer for like nine years before this yeah, definitely has an impact on this business. I didn't mean it to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this definitely has an impact on this business. I didn't mean it to, but I take so much time to. I've got friends and they're like you're always on your phone. I'm like, yeah, because I've got a new someone inquiring that they're nervous, they're scared, they want to come and I'm almost. I can sometimes flip back into coach mode, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'd imagine these parties for first-timers are like so fucking nerve-wracking.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Most people going to these parties on the first time. It's the first time that they've seen by more than one person naked, you know, and it's the first time that they're really sort of getting out there and approaching others and seeing orgies and multiple people having sex in rooms, which is so normal for me now as I walk past a room.
Speaker 2:Oh, that looks like. Keep going, guys. Yes, it's all great.
Speaker 3:You're right, though they're very, very, not all of them, but a lot of, so I have a mix of new people, and I actually really like dealing with what I call the newbies.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It is a lot more time because I do have to sort of go into that coaching mode, because they won't, not everyone's going to take the leap.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they are. I'll get some people that will ask me a list of questions literally yeah. And fair enough, right? It's their first time. And then I have other newbies that will like send me the ticket link, and then they just ghost because it's fear yeah. And you know I have a mix of the newbies and then a really good mix of your hardcore original swingers. When they get there you see them for about five minutes.
Speaker 2:I love that you're just so open to help those that are nervous as well though, because, like you said, you could just go and buy a ticket and then you sit on the ticket and then they just don't show up or they don't go because they don't know what to expect. But, if you're there helping them. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had a chat with a guy a couple of weeks back who was basically saying you know, I got my first ticket.
Speaker 3:Was it to one of my events. It wasn't to one of your events. Okay, that's okay, we forgive him for now.
Speaker 1:So basically he's like I got my first ticket, I'm really excited about it, and then I sort of gave him some advice around how to approach that first sort of moment and then I checked in with him after the party.
Speaker 3:He didn't go, did he?
Speaker 1:No, he didn't go.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's actually the single men that are really mostly the newbies are really nervous.
Speaker 2:It's interesting you say that I think they'll be more the women.
Speaker 1:No, why do we think? It's the single men though.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've got, I'm here to help you, I've written all over my head anyway. So obviously people are just naturally open with me and share yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot of the single men are really nervous. I found more, so I've had to do more coaching and encouragement that's the word to the single men and I vet all my single men, by the way, and I chat to them and even will have phone calls with them and things like that. I think because they have bad reputations in the industry.
Speaker 3:Single men have a bad reputation as they're going to just be there and be sleazy and stand there and watch over people, and that's not the case at all. I don't have those kind of single men at my events, but yeah, they are. They're really nervous. I wonder if there's like a performance thing there as well and a performance thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know like they're expected to be almost like a unicorn because, from what I understand, single guys in a lifestyle and good-looking single guys in a lifestyle are the real unicorns and when they get there they're supposed to be like this big and, in life, rock hard cock for eight hours.
Speaker 4:But realistically it's.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine many guys would be able to pull that off right.
Speaker 3:I think for the newbies. Actually, you're right, it is a what if I get there and I can't perform? Or what if I get there and you know I want to join in and you know the word Viagra gets thrown around here and there, and you know I want to join in and you know the word Viagra gets thrown around here and there and you know, especially to me I get asked hey, can you get it? Or things like that. It's not my role, it's not my job, right, but yes, definitely the performance. And I think, going there on their own, I find a lot of single females will go with a new single females will come with a couple or a friend.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And the couples have the couples.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So do you find single females generally handle that first party better, or do they do it in a different way?
Speaker 3:They do it. The single men can be awkward.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I've had a lot of single men and they've probably listened to this and they said to me literally thank you for how comfortable you made me feel. Yeah, like meeting me, like me meeting them, chatting to them. If, obviously, you know, I try and get around and talk to everyone. Yeah, I've had to do that with single females as well, but I tend to do it a lot more with the single females before. Yeah, I have to do it a lot more with the single females before.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I have to do it quite a bit with my all-women's event and actually I've got one coming up next weekend and when I think about it there's about ten new women coming to that that have been like I've been wanting to come to something like this for years and I just can't and I'm like let's chat.
Speaker 2:I'm very intrigued right now, being a woman.
Speaker 3:I'm just like, okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 3:So I run all women's events, and therefore bisexual women, bi-curious women, the lesbian community you know, all is welcome. And there's a lot of women that have come from another channel of mine that I would say. I've got about 10 new women coming this week that they're so excited but they're very nervous and I've done a lot of pre-chat with them a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, I can imagine though and this is just me being a guy, knowing what guys are like female events. When you get there, like the nerves are there, yeah, but then when you actually get there and you meet yourself and you meet all the other girls, I can imagine it'd be quite welcoming, totally, guy. When you turn up, it's like, oh fucking, here's a competition, like who's got a big addiction to the, to the mixed events. Yes, it's even harder, but the women's events would be fucking great.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh yes, okay, yes you're very welcome.
Speaker 3:I'm leaving next weekend, but I'm watching it out.
Speaker 2:You're very welcome. I'll fill Jordan in at uni the next day. Jordan, guess what? Excuse me.
Speaker 3:They are very so. I run the women's ones probably every second month to like one of my mixed events or the mixed events. Maybe I wait a few months, but the women's ones, because I used to run women's circles, women retreats, healing retreats they've come very naturally for me. Healing retreats they've come very naturally for me, but it very much is really. I've helped so many women in the last three years to really come out of their shell and to. I've had women say I have been, I've had this urge to be with another woman or I've got this curiosity to be with another woman and they've been literally hiding it, shaming it. They've kept it down.
Speaker 3:There is a lot of shame, yeah, that shame which I know I experienced, you know, when I was going through my journey in my sexuality. So the women's events are really, they're very different to the mixed events. They're very soft and feminine and there's playrooms. Oh there's a lot of play that goes on and a lot of toys. Let me tell you that they're not so soft and feminine in the playrooms, right.
Speaker 1:This is what every guy is just sitting there going. Oh, we want like this insight into that.
Speaker 3:Oh, the husbands are waiting at home, or a lot of the husbands are in the hotel room. I can imagine. Where the venue. A lot of the husbands have got rooms and they're waiting for the women to come back and like waiting at home, like for the goss. So I have about 30 women in these play parties and they're literally like saying, oh my God, they're waiting at home. They want the gossip, they want to know who you used to strap on and who did this and who did that.
Speaker 1:I can imagine as well.
Speaker 2:I just want a new lingerie set.
Speaker 1:That's what my vision would be that's what it's all about for you, isn't it?
Speaker 2:I'd be like excuse for the new lingerie set.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, trip down to Honey B. Yeah, there it is. It's just an excuse to go on a catwalk, basically.
Speaker 2:I just like to go online shopping. Oh right, that's an excuse for online shopping.
Speaker 3:You need to start coming to my events then. Hun oh man.
Speaker 1:You know, the other thing I think that you just hit on there and it's really interesting because I've literally just wrote a paper about this but using sexuality as a way to explore your personality and improve your relationship as well. Because, like, I always had this thought, which is like a normative sort of thought, out there, right where people are just like, oh, you know, swingers and people within a lifestyle must have some form of deficiency within their relationship. And you know, up until, like, I got it to within about five years and started really exploring you know the sex ed side of things and started opening myself up to these narratives and I was like, oh, hang on a second, that's not necessarily true. And then I started looking a bit more into it and I finally just wrote a paper on it. And you see, that people within the lifestyle, their relationships, are often so much better because they need all of that communication and work around it. And it ties into pretty much what you've just said.
Speaker 1:You know, like, the communication before a party is huge, and I can imagine that the communication during a party for couples is huge as well. But is there some things that you see with couples who have a great time. Are there like characteristics that you sit there and go yeah, they're going to have a fucking great time? Are there like characteristics that you sit there and go yeah, they're going to have a fucking great time, or they might struggle with this? Can you pinpoint that when you're doing your vetting process or on a night?
Speaker 3:Look, I used to do relationship counselling back in the day when I was in my coaching business. So it's like I said, it's helped so much in this business that I've now got that. Didn't plan ever plan to have, but it's where I'm meant to be. Yeah, absolutely Like to be in this lifestyle as a couple. If you're choosing it, both partners are choosing it and not just one.
Speaker 3:It can definitely strengthen relationships because you have to have what I, you know, the communication and all the conversations before you go to the parties and talk about your boundaries and what you know, what both of your desires are, and then the aftercare conversations.
Speaker 3:And so, yes, there's a lot of couples that I can see that have that strength. But then there are couples that I've definitely witnessed before my eyes that haven't got any of that. Yeah, and that's where the trouble will begin, because they've crossed boundaries or they haven't even spoken about what their boundaries are, or one of them's doing it more for the other and I'm just one of them's doing it more for the other to keep them happy, to keep their needs met. So if you've got a couple and they're both in it together because they want to, yeah, it can be a beautiful union, you know, absolutely very freeing for both sides, both of the man and the woman, because your sexuality is your life force and it really, if you're repressing your sexuality as a man or a woman, then you're kind of, you're not fully expressed as well.
Speaker 2:And it takes a lot of trust.
Speaker 3:Yes, the couples as well yeah, the trust, the conversations, the awkwardness, the discomfort that's going to come seeing things for the first time but yes, there are definitely. I've witnessed and I've seen couples at my events and just gone. Yeah, I've had couples have arguments not many, not a lot. I've had women come up to me crying you know where. Obviously my coaching has come into play and that's been really supportive. So, yeah, there's such a mix in the scene and in the lifestyle.
Speaker 1:I would love it to be more of the conscious side, but it's mixed and it's always going to be, I think, and it does happen Like not everybody can do the work or does do the work before they turn up for something like this, yeah, but I suppose it is just that exploration, though, isn't it Like people sit there and they get out. They think, oh, you know, I want to go and do this, but to be able to go to a party like that is fucking great, to be able to explore. And I suppose sexuality is our adult's way of play it's our it's I have.
Speaker 3:There's so many people that I tell now I'm very open about what I do, literally will tell strangers what do you do? I tell people I don't hide it like I used to, and they're like oh my God, I've been wanting. Can I come to one of your parties?
Speaker 2:Just like me, you'll get everybody like oh my God it is human nature.
Speaker 3:I've got friends that are curious. Some have come, some haven't. I don't push any of them because one thing about my parties is there is never any pressure to play no, ever. And I'm very renowned for that, probably because I do a very intentional talk at the beginning of all my events. I'm renowned for standing on furniture I don't know if you've heard that and because I'm obviously not that tall.
Speaker 2:I was going to say you are a bit like me, little pocket rocket, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, excuse me, standing pocket rocket right, excuse me, standing on furniture, and everyone knows now at my parties that cut off time, dream kitty. Someone whistles, one of the guys gets everyone in the room and I stand up there and I do my what, I say my opening, which for me is really setting the intention. Sorry, yeah, and there's not a lot of event hosts out there. I think that would do that.
Speaker 2:No, because when you think about it like I thought about, like you know, spinners, parties and stuff like that, I'm like, oh, you have to do something For me. If I was to go to something, maybe I just want to go there meet people and see what happens. I don't want that feeling of I have to actually do something sexual at the place.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2:I think that's my biggest fear. That would be my biggest fear.
Speaker 1:Sorry, to do that. There's like that whole thing as well, where people think that they're going to go to a party and be fighting people off. Yeah, you know and from what I understand as well, quite often people will go to parties and they won't find anybody that they feel comfortable playing with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they won't find anybody that they feel comfortable playing with you know, Absolutely.
Speaker 1:They just basically use it as a walk around, meet and greet.
Speaker 3:So sure that's that there's definitely people that don't play. I'm literally going to rest in bitch face 24-7.
Speaker 2:So, you're like I'm the non-approachable person in the corner that wants people to come up to me.
Speaker 1:You'll be okay, then you maybe need like a little sign off for play but the face doesn't say it.
Speaker 3:I swear I'm okay. Look, it's definitely like all of my marketing. I talk about it on all of my events on Red Hot Pie. It's always like there's never any pressure to play. It's welcome and invited. Because that's what you know. My parties are there for people to express their sexuality, to be fully expressed, to not feel shame, to not feel judgment. So I encourage it and invite it. But oh yeah, some people just come and they socialise and have a couple of drinks or not drink.
Speaker 2:I'll have to drink if I go to one of your events. I'll be like down in them.
Speaker 3:Having a few drinks and chatting. Some people just love to watch, some people just like I want to tick that off the list. I've been to one of those parties, but I have noticed in the last probably year that I'm a lot more open, like, yeah, I'll be travelling, and people will be like, what do you do? Oh, I run corporate in the day and I run sex parties at night and they're like their eyes.
Speaker 2:Tell me more. I have no shame around it, and they are literally like Everyone will be curious, so curious yeah.
Speaker 3:I used to hide it, but now I'm like, yeah, and I run these events and they're like, honestly, I've never had anyone be rude or be judgmental well, to my face. And yeah, like it's been interesting over the last year to be more open with that and to be saying to people, yeah, I run these spaces for people and predominantly they are called sex parties, right. But you know, or I'll say to people I run swingers parties and I'll be like, do you know what that is? And they're like, yeah, but you know it's really just a sex party, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's just terminology and language around. It is testament to you and your journey of being able to come around now and be like you know what this is, what I do do about it, and be quite open, because we were sort of chatting about it before we got on air and how people even though we're in sexology but people treat you sort of differently as soon as you say it.
Speaker 2:They just assume I know how to have sex now. I knew this before. This just amplifies it. I just assume I know how to have sex now. I knew this before. This just amplifies it.
Speaker 1:Just know more about it now. But yeah, people do approach us in a different sort of way and that is generally in my experience with a whole fucking heap of curiosity. Like as soon as you say oh yeah, I do sexology.
Speaker 2:They're like okay, sit down, I've got about 50,000 questions. Yeah, and if I don't have time I just say, oh, reproductive system, and then they leave it at that, because I'm like I have no time to talk to you right now. I'm shopping. Yeah, exactly, and it's human nature, isn't it?
Speaker 4:It is, yeah, curiosity.
Speaker 3:Imagine saying you run sex parties. Yeah, People are like and no, you know, and they're like yeah, everyone's got their own perception of what a sex party is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they do. I mean, I think Fifty Shades of Grey really fucked a lot of people up because, like now, they imagine like everything's leather and suede and like beautiful velvet.
Speaker 2:Maybe some of them out there but look, there's some big clubs Like where's the? Old like you know, copper handcuffs that you've lost the key, Like where's that stuff gone with your fluffy handcuffs?
Speaker 3:There could be some of those. I think one thing I definitely want to do is check out some of these big clubs around the world.
Speaker 1:actually, yeah, that's on the list for us as well.
Speaker 3:London and Berlin. I've seen a few as of late. I think it would just be so interesting for me, being an event host in Perth, to see what these other people are doing around the world.
Speaker 2:Would you go? Because you said interstate's been questioning you. Would you go, interstate?
Speaker 3:I definitely looked at it, like I really looked at it, and I at one point wasn't sure if I was actually going to move back to Sydney or what.
Speaker 2:Yes, a Sydney girl.
Speaker 3:Where I lived. Yes, I'm a Perth girl. No, I've Perth. To be honest, perth is probably the busiest niche out of the whole of Australia. Oh wow, it's very different to Sydney.
Speaker 1:It's so interesting that you have said that, because I have heard and it's sort of been backed up with data from FetLife that people in Western Australia are far more kinky than over east.
Speaker 2:Well, no wonder I moved here. I'm from New South Wales, so this is probably like what Tasha's like. Yes, I'm moving over to New South Wales.
Speaker 3:They're more kinky over there. Did you go to any sex parties? Natasha's like yes, I'm moving over to Melbourne. They're more kinky over there. Did you go to any sex parties? No, no, no.
Speaker 2:I was very like, so I'm from. I was from Mount Druitt, represent.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, I know those areas.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, you're like ooh yeah.
Speaker 3:I lived in the city, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the western suburbs, that's where I'm from. No, I didn't, because it wasn't really talked about, because I moved over here when I was 30. I was just going to say 20. No, no, I'm not that young 30. But I was in two serious relationships where they wouldn't have been open to that yeah.
Speaker 3:Definitely Perth. I looked into Sydney for sure and I've got some contacts in Sydney and Melbourne and they're like every time we look at Red Hot Pie. Red Hot Pie is one of the main avenues I use to market my events. They're like every time I look at Red Hot Pie, perth is pumping literally pardon the pun, it is. Perth is heaving for events. Sydney's a different market. I don't. So no, I wouldn't do interstate as in I wouldn't go over to Sydney to run an event unless I was living there. I've had many people fly over to Perth for my events, wow. And actually this year quite a few of my last year's Bali attendees shout out to them they're the best flew across for one of my masquerade party, actually this year, yeah cool so quite a few.
Speaker 2:I'm just like wow, yeah, and a few different ones. I've never been to Bali either.
Speaker 3:So I'm just like oh yeah, bali masquerade no no the Bali event last year, but quite a few of them flew over this year for like a couple of my different Perth events, and they're from interstate.
Speaker 1:So you're doing a lot of these international events. Now, right, you've got like Bali and so on.
Speaker 3:So I've been doing my annual Bali winter getaway for three years and that's what I call it annual, which is coming up in August.
Speaker 2:So when's winter? I mean for prep.
Speaker 3:Fortunately that one's sold out. They sell out so far in August. So when's winter? I'm in full prep. Fortunately that one's sold out. They sell out so far in advance. But I'm actually going to be running two a year in Thailand from next year, so I won't. Well, for now I've decided to do them in Thailand and I'm going to be doing two a year. So my first Thailand one and I was in Thailand a few weeks ago doing full business research and securing the venue. My first one is March next year Pretty sure it's the 19th. That's half full already and then I'll do one at the end of their rainy season, which will be November. So they will be my international events as of next year.
Speaker 2:Do you find they sell out faster?
Speaker 3:Oh well, this is my first Thailand one. They will be my international events as of next year. Do you find they sell out faster? Well, this is my first Thailand one. I have no problem with my selling my events, and especially international ones, the Bali ones. This is my third Bali one this year, same time August, and they've always sold out Very fast.
Speaker 2:Yes, like get in there.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, it's like trying to get tickets to an ACDC concert Like you've got to be on there within a minute or two, it's not like trying to get tickets too.
Speaker 3:What is that amazing?
Speaker 2:I went to B1 82 and I was like, oh my God, come on.
Speaker 3:Well, it's an amazing festival in Europe this year. Every year I tried, I looked at getting tickets and it sells out. Within like five seconds it's in. Is it Belgium Tomorrowland? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:It's not like trying to get a ticket to Tomorrowland by any means.
Speaker 2:I was going to say everyone's sitting on red hot piders waiting for the ticket release.
Speaker 1:Boom, it's a 75. Anybody want to come?
Speaker 3:But the international ones, yeah people, as Anybody want to come. But the international ones, yeah people. As soon as I released Thailand, when I was there, bang, I had people trying to book rooms in Thailand before I'd even secured the venue. I was like I'm just about to look at the venue and secure the venue and then when I got back is when I started opening rooms and it just depends, like my international events. They're not massive, massive events, they're like generally from 22 to 30 people max, right, so you know you've got a lot of them are couples, so you're looking at maybe 10 rooms, 12 rooms yeah, so how do they work?
Speaker 1:Is it like a one-night thing and where people just get rooms, or is it like a week-long event? No, they're full packages six nights. Okay, oh, wow, nice.
Speaker 3:Six nights, or so many things, like the Thailand one. I can't even wait for it. Already so many things organised. To give you an example, the Bali one coming out I've just finished the itinerary and um six nights we all stay together, different venues, of course, wherever they are. Um, we have a lot of group activities. There's a playroom that's always set up in the venues, that's open, of course. It's cleaned every morning. Um activities like the Thailand one, for example, I'm taking them out to one of the islands for the day. We'll be taking them out to the main street in Patong, you know, for a really fun, fun, fun night. And I went and experienced all that myself not long ago. Massages included, dinners included, breakfast included. So it's a package deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cool.
Speaker 3:And then there's always free time where people can go and explore. So you're with the group at least half the time and then you're free to do what you want. But people form friendships, so they might go. Hey, we've got a free night tonight, you know, let's all go out for a little night.
Speaker 2:What do you want to do?
Speaker 3:Okay, cool. And so you know, let's go for dinner. And so I think, after my third year and the feedback I've been getting from my international events, I think I've got them pretty well downpacked from the feedback that I've had over the years from different people saying you know what? We wanted more activities, or we wanted this or maybe this. So I've tried to take that on board, never going to please anyone. I'm not an avocado. What's the saying? You know, I always say that no matter what you do and I'm such a perfectionist and overachiever, no matter what I do you always get people that will come up with something because everyone's different.
Speaker 1:I like the idea of those like week-long parties or like group events. They're so fun, the international ones, but you are making friends and I think like there's that minority stress for a lot of people within a lifestyle as well, where they understand that they sit outside of the norm sexually and because of that they're always sort of checking what they say and they're always in this guarded position and it's like, oh shit, I can't say what I really want to say around these people because I might get caught.
Speaker 3:And they've got different groups of friends.
Speaker 1:That's it right, They've got the vanilla friends.
Speaker 3:Yes, I've got certain groups of friends. That's it right. They've got the vanilla friends. Yes, I've got certain group of friends. That is a way too safe. All my New.
Speaker 2:South Wales friends, I wouldn't tell them anything that I'm thinking.
Speaker 1:And that's okay.
Speaker 2:But then I've got friends ie Jordan as well, that I'll be like, oh my God, guess what I think.
Speaker 3:I'm going. You're going to want to drink at his international event.
Speaker 1:But that's it. Like you just get around to like-minded people.
Speaker 3:That's the word. You hit the nail on the head like-minded.
Speaker 1:Everything just flows as well, and I love the fact that you're doing stuff in Thailand as well, because whenever I've been to Bali, I've always felt as though there is this real sort of reclusiveness around the sexuality side there.
Speaker 3:It's definitely Thailand. I won't focus so much on what Bali is not doing, but Thailand and I've noticed this from when I went recently is so much more sex-friendly, sex-positive. You know, bali doesn't have any streets like no. And I've just had it. It's the walking street, bangalore Street, right? Yeah, I mean, people are it's great fun.
Speaker 3:This is perfect for my, you know, for my niche of the people. Right, they can go and watch sex shows. They can go to gentlemen's clubs. They can go watch ping pong shows. Thailand is definitely more open-minded in regards to that kind of stuff, for sure.
Speaker 1:I know, the first time I ever went to that Bangalore street, walked in and there was this I need to travel more? Yes, you do, and you need to go there.
Speaker 3:Okay, so walked in Thailand next year.
Speaker 1:There was this tiny little Thai girl and she was squatting down but like gyrating her hips and I'm looking from like the back of this club and she was squatting down but like gyrating her hips and I'm looking from like the back of this club.
Speaker 3:Was this on Walking Street? You said yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm like what is that girl doing?
Speaker 1:Like that's not a very good dance move, if it is a dance move at all and I'm looking and I'm like what the hell Ordered a couple of beers? And next thing she stands up, pulls this piece of A3 paper up and it's there in handwriting. That's better than mine. Welcome to Thailand, get a beer. I was just like that's fucking impressive.
Speaker 3:Was that fake hair? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:She had one of those art line the fatter art line textures wedged in there and perfect.
Speaker 2:Me as a woman's health person. I'm just like oh my God.
Speaker 1:You're sitting there going no, no, no, there's too much going on there.
Speaker 2:Thailand's definitely. Don't put pens up, your Just don't. You'll end up at my ED.
Speaker 3:Oh, you so need to come to Thailand now.
Speaker 1:So you're not a proponent of the Sharpie Challenge, then I'm not going.
Speaker 2:Oh, I could try to spell my name, but there'll be one interesting trip to my EC if I do get it lost up there, wow yeah you've only got one place to go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the show's, yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, I'm super excited. I mean, look, I'm excited for my next Bali event, of course, which will be in a few months or three months, but the Thailand one, just yeah, it just feels like a good move for me. And to be doing two a year, yeah, I just felt there was definitely more to offer.
Speaker 2:Do you offer like six nights, five night retreats here in Perth, or is it all just the one night?
Speaker 3:No, so all my events in Perth are just for the night, however many hours they are, and then the international ones are always. They've kind of become your six-night Okay. Yeah, Six-night events and yeah, I mean, I've never done. I've been asked about doing down south trips. I'll be honest, it doesn't excite me and I need to feel excited. Yeah, I need to feel excited to do something and I get that excitement quite a lot with my events. That's how I come up with my themes or get my venues and things like that. Like I have to feel it and I have to be like hell. Yeah, hence why, when I went to Thailand a few weeks ago, I knew straight away yep, this is the right decision. And as soon as I put it out to the market, it was like people were like take my money literally.
Speaker 1:Because I think people want that all immersive sexual experience. Like, let's be fair, I'm a parent and if I'm sitting there looking at an international holiday, I want some sort of and my son's not coming, obviously right.
Speaker 3:No kids allowed, sorry.
Speaker 1:Like, if I'm going away on that international holiday, my wife and I, we want some of that play.
Speaker 2:You know we want to look forward to that.
Speaker 1:And sometimes, when you do go to Bali, it's like okay, it's there, it's available, but it's really not.
Speaker 3:It's really not, but it is and it's kind of a little bit under the radar. And you know, yeah, thailand definitely feels very aligned for me, not that Bali ever did, but I just definitely felt the shift in bringing them to Thailand and obviously putting it out there, realising and I've already got one couple that were so keen to come they're a regular couple at my Perth events and as soon as they're like, oh, we can't come in March because my partner can't get time off, I said that's okay, I'm holding one in November. They're like cool, we'll pay a deposit for November. Sorry, because people pay a deposit. It will pay a deposit for November. Sorry, because people pay a deposit. It's like a package price. So all of my international events are package priced, based on the rooms and things like that, and then for the package you get this, this, this, this and this. Obviously. So, as you as a parent, you're like great, well, I already know, that I've paid for all of that.
Speaker 3:All I need to pay for is a few more dinners. You know that the playroom, the Thailand one, will have a few playrooms with the venue and actually the Bali one coming up will probably have a few different playrooms that people can use or they can go to their own rooms.
Speaker 2:And look, it saves you like trying to find a hotel and stuff too. Eh, Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:And I love creating these experiences. The thing is, I love creating these experiences. That's what they are.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so I love creating them and I love the fact that people come because they love experiencing them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, All right, talk to me about that now with, like your Perth parties, because I've heard that your parties are fucking off the charts.
Speaker 3:Oh no, the pressure, the pressure.
Speaker 1:So yes, and you do have to live up to it. Yes, but like.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm leaving now. Now, I know you're calling a potential client here, absolutely. You must you both have to come to one of my Perth events.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, we do.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:How do you create these spaces? Like you walk into a venue and you obviously look at it and go, yeah, I can work with that. What are you actually looking to put out there, like from a female perspective? Because I think for guys we'd literally be happy with like a warehouse and some sheets on the floor and just go fucking have at it. No, Georgie.
Speaker 2:No, no, after the warehouse had a comic downstairs before we gave up house and some sheets on the floor and just go fucking have at it.
Speaker 4:No, georgie, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1:No, is it probably just like? Oh whatever.
Speaker 3:Probably. But for me, I'm so visual, I am so, so, so, so visual, so I need to be able to see it. And I just so that I'm trialling a new venue in October and I don't like talk too much about my venues, but I'm trialling a new venue in October. It's a very cool, very funky, kind of studio-like venue and I just walked in there and I knew straight away the vision of it. And I have to deck this out with furniture and different things for this one, because most of my venues have bedrooms and stuff like this. This one does have rooms, but I have to set a bit more of it up. So for me it's. I like to have nice venues. I think, if you ask anyone, I've always had decent venues, always. I've had multiple different kinds of venues, but they've always been nice and decent and very clean and very organised and very dimly lit and just even right down to the food that I offer you know, the platters that.
Speaker 2:I, I'm always there for food, I don't just.
Speaker 3:I get the food made. So, yeah, as a female host, I'm looking at all the finer details. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And that helps females to enjoy it more, because I think Like you said, men would just I won't put out if I feel uncomfortable and it's a disgusting area.
Speaker 3:There you go. She's not going to put out. Yeah, and look some of these parties I don't put out on the first date, just so everyone knows you can't do that either.
Speaker 2:Lies.
Speaker 3:Lies everywhere in this room.
Speaker 2:Okay, it depends.
Speaker 3:Yeah, look, guys would, like you said, I've asked a few guys before about different other parties. Hey, did you go to this party? How was the venue? Some of them didn't even know where it was. They're like I don't know, it was someplace.
Speaker 1:I just miraculously happened upon it and there it was.
Speaker 3:I mean, not all men are like that. I've got to cancel, clear, delete that comment because I have spoken to some couples and the male parts have said, oh no, I'll never go back to that part their parties because I didn't like the venue. But majority of the time it's the women and of course I'm a woman creating it. So I am very anal, ocd to a degree, about my venues, absolutely wherever they are, and it gives it what am I trying to say here?
Speaker 1:Like basically the environment that we come, I'll put my architect's hat on now. So the environment that we dwell in has a direct impact on how we see and perceive ourselves, right? So if you go out and buy some nice lingerie and then you end up at like a shed in the middle of Gosnells, you're probably going to sit there.
Speaker 4:Sorry to the people that live in Gosnells.
Speaker 3:I used to come from God's schools. I lived down there.
Speaker 2:I'm like, I know where that is.
Speaker 1:I'm being not a person, but like if you put some nice lingerie on, end up at a shed there, you're not going to feel 100% sexy?
Speaker 3:I wouldn't, I know as a woman, Because you're just like oh no.
Speaker 1:But if you walk in some place that's absolutely fucking Sensuous and luxurious and you know you can feel those nice textures, even if it's not the crown, because you know we can't use the crown anymore.
Speaker 3:But even if it's not the crown, all my venues, regardless if they've been houses, apartments, studios I've never used a warehouse are always done really well, to the best of my ability. I can utilise the space really, really well and I think that's one thing that would be a common theme with my parties. And also, because I use different venues, people don't know. A lot of the time they're like oh, where are? Like my last venue, the Mexican party, I had a bus and everyone got on the bus and everyone came to the venue and I'd never done that.
Speaker 2:That was so cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd never done that before.
Speaker 2:I like to sit at the back of the bus because I'm a naughty person. You could sit at the back. I wasn't on the bus. You definitely will be a naughty person on the back of that bus.
Speaker 3:I don't know what they did on the bus, but that same venue, that venue worked really well, I'd never done the busing before. And that same venue I'm actually using in December because I got really good feedback.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I'm doing a summer event there because it's got beautiful outdoor areas Yep the bus oh.
Speaker 4:I love that we're doing the bus as well.
Speaker 3:But then my venue, my next big party in October, which is Halloween themed. Is this really cool, almost artist-like studio with built-in bedrooms? So they're all very different.
Speaker 2:I can't do Halloween. I take it too far and dress up as Mike Myers. I'm not sexy either. It's me in the corner. Too far and dressed up as Mike Myers Not sexy either. I kind of Me in the corner.
Speaker 3:I need some help, guys, because I'm like I've put on this Halloween theme. I think it just came to me and I just rolled with it and now I'm like holy shit.
Speaker 2:Don't get any ideas from me. I'm like Mike Myers, the scream dude, like I go like full, like scary, not sexy scary either.
Speaker 3:No, I've got to do sexy Halloween. My Like scary not sexy scary either. No, I've got to do sexy Halloween.
Speaker 1:My wife and I do Halloween every year at the court with Sherman.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, yep.
Speaker 1:And basically like that's our thing, and she always goes in some knockout fucking outfit that's just got everybody's heads turning. Oh, I need to talk to your wife about something, and then I'm dressed like fucking Jack the Ripper or some voodoo priest or something like that. It's like, oh, what's going on here?
Speaker 2:I every year am Wednesday Adams.
Speaker 4:So I would love to touch on this subject because for me when I was putting the Halloween soiree.
Speaker 3:It's a soiree I'm like I want to go down the American route and I want people to feel really comfortable in coming as whatever character.
Speaker 2:Because that's what they do in America. Right, I could be Mike Myers, with a dildo instead of a knife. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm aiming for. The Halloween one. It doesn't have to be scary. Spooky People can come. I am looking for the most sexiest Halloween outfit possible at the moment.
Speaker 2:So if you see a Mike Myers in the corner. It's probably me.
Speaker 1:You and my wife can team up and find them together and get double discounts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've got to figure out what she's done before, because I don't want to go. But yeah, I don't want to go scary spooky. So my Halloween vision and theme is really open-minded. You know, people get to choose and it doesn't have to be spooky scary theme.
Speaker 2:It can be sexy, spooky scary or you can come as a character. I'm also a sci-fi fan, so like my mind's, like Princess Leia. Yes or like you know, you've got all your different little animes, like your Sailor Moon, and I'm like ooh interesting.
Speaker 1:And that's what I mean. Like this all just ties into this idea of play again. Like it's just and sort of stepping into a character because like, as adults, we've all got our own shit going on, we've all got our own day jobs, we've got our kids, we've got our fucking dogs, all that sort of stuff. And to be able to go to these parties is to be able to step outside of yourself, stepping into play Right and stepping into play.
Speaker 3:I love play. And then not only play, play and look, I've got a confession to make. I hated themes. I never did themed events until recently and I've gotten a lot more into them. I stress out more about them because I'm like what am I going to do? How am I going to dress up?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I've noticed especially the Mexican one and I did a masquerade of Mexican one this year. People love them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I love a good dress up. Do you think that's because, like themes generally bring like more of an element of fun and fun breaks down some of that hard?
Speaker 3:I think so, and it also gives them, you know, like we have pre-chats going on for a few months and people are talking about their outfits and they're thinking about their outfits, like I've already got people coming to my Halloween event, which is in October. It is at, you know, in the month of Halloween, already talking about what they're going to wear to the event.
Speaker 2:You step out of your own self as well. I think that's why people love the dress-ups yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think it's a lot easier for girls than it is for guys. Yes, maybe Girls have got all this different, like lingerie options. Let's just talk like a regular party right Like girls have got all these lingerie options. What does a guy have?
Speaker 2:Mike Myers.
Speaker 3:Are you talking about dress down for guys? Yeah, literally, instead.
Speaker 1:Of boxes or briefs like boxes or briefs. No, guy's gonna go and set a bunch of smugglers because they're never gonna get laid, but like yeah, I don't know have they met tash, like they're nice buzzy smugg, but yeah like it is a difference. But there was one thing I wanted to jump on what Tasha said earlier. Drinking, yes, right, and I can imagine for first-timers going to these parties those nerves are going nuts Drinking, do you often see the first-timers who are a bit nervy just taking it way too far?
Speaker 3:I've never had to kick anyone out of my parties for being too intoxicated. Again have you met Tash? No, I'm joking, I haven't. Actually I've had people say such and such was really drunk.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I haven't had any issues from people. I haven't had any consent issues at my events that I've you know that has been brought to my attention from alcohol. But yes, of course I do allow alcohol at my events, absolutely always will. There's some people that are more in the tantra world that would not allow the alcohol. Yeah, but excuse me, getting over a cold, but yeah, of course people are going to be nervous, and so I encourage you to have a couple of drinks, but definitely not for the men to get too intoxicated, because that's when obviously their performance can be affected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:You know, and so I've seen that a lot. I've seen men come and they're really nervous, more so than the women in the couples, and then they try to play and they can't play Because they're too intoxicated. Yeah, they've drunk too much and nothing's happening down there.
Speaker 2:To me that's a big thing because I get really nervous and anxiety builds up so much myself. I get it in my own head.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And if I was going to?
Speaker 3:an event.
Speaker 2:I'd want at least to have one or two drinks, because even on going on a date meeting someone new, I want one drink. I'll just tell everybody I down a freaking shot of tequila or gin before I go on a date.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I'm so freaking scared.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Look as long as.
Speaker 3:And then I let loose, but still. I mean, I don't encourage people to be super intoxicated definitely not at my events, no but I definitely allow alcohol and I haven't personally really had that many issues with it. I've been told about some. You know certain things that have happened with you know just people being a bit reckless because they're drunk. But yeah, it's a good icebreaker you know like even you know. It's BYO as well, at my events, which people love because it's cheaper.
Speaker 2:Well, look, everyone sits down and has a glass of wine at dinner and has a chat. So it's just similar to that. I reckon yeah, and it is.
Speaker 1:It just takes the edge off the nerves. It gives you like a little bit more confidence. But there is that like sort of fine line. There's that fine line.
Speaker 3:You don't want to take it too far, and if I'm at an event and I was to see that, of course, then either someone that's doing my security or one of the men that's supporting me would take care of that. Absolutely, I would not allow anything like that at my parties. Consent is huge for me. I talk about that at the beginning at all my parties, when I'm standing on a chair or a table, whatever consent, and I have open playrooms so you can't close the doors at my event.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 3:So open. Obviously, rules I go through, rules I go through what time we finish. You know I can't think off the top of my head. Oh, I have prizes at all my parties that I go through. But you know, consent and respect and things like that are at the top of my list. So if I was to see a really intoxicated person, male or female, causing issues, then they would definitely be asked to leave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's interesting that the ones who are likely to do it are the guys, because they're likely to get a little bit more licked up, because they're let's face it.
Speaker 3:I've seen a few pretty liquored up females at my events. Oh yeah, I can imagine I can imagine it's just, I think, for guys.
Speaker 1:we're in this space where we're not just, you know, there to have fun, but we're also, weirdly, there to compete.
Speaker 3:Compete but also protect your partner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot going on for guys where for females, it's like I just need to go, be able to step out of myself and have fun.
Speaker 3:And look really cute in my honey burdette lingerie or my bras and thing lingerie.
Speaker 1:And I think psychologically there's a lot more going on with guys behind, which is why they might be the ones that end up hammered yeah.
Speaker 3:You have a lot of pressure, a lot more pressure at these events and even at going with a partner, because you need to make you know you don't need to do anything, but obviously you would like to make your partner feel safe and secure and be the strength and the masculine and things like that. So, yeah, the men have a, especially in a relation.
Speaker 3:Going as a couple would definitely have a lot more pressure, whereas females are just flitting about they can't wait to get their dress down outfit on, because they've gone and bought their brand new lingerie set and they can't wait to have. Because I have due dress down at all of my events at a certain time.
Speaker 2:Okay, yep.
Speaker 3:And it's optional.
Speaker 1:But women are dying to get into their dress down Like stuff the dress down they're already taking their clothes off and the guys are just like do I really need to get into my SpongeBob SquarePants like boxes?
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, I'd love to see you in SpongeBob.
Speaker 3:The guys are so awkward and the women are like already. Some of them are even half dressed down when they arrive. Yeah, pretty much they get out of the Uber. They're already stripping ready to go in, they take their jacket off right they've got their big jacket and they're like I mean I love half of my outfits are dressed down when I meet you. Yeah, I'm already dressed down at the actual beginning, leading the way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely, and people are. I'm renowned for my Honey Birdette sets and they're like Now I'm for my Honey Birdette sets. And they're like we can't wait to see what your next set is. And I'm like, no, you don't want to see my bank account, that's for sure. Oh man, they are so expensive. Yes, like great quality stuff, great Holy shit To do a proper set, which I do, you know you're looking at $500, $600 for the whole.
Speaker 2:And you don't want a warehouse for that.
Speaker 3:I'm in a warehouse for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Sorry.
Speaker 3:I don't. It's got a match right.
Speaker 2:I don't. It's got a match. I'm in a warehouse for that.
Speaker 3:Sister, you said it right.
Speaker 4:I can't.
Speaker 3:This wouldn't feel right, although I have worn them in warehouse parties before, maybe one, maybe one. There's only one host that I go to and I like him and he's really cool and down to earth and he does use a warehouse. So I have worn a Honey Burdette set.
Speaker 2:They're for my Sheen and Tamu ones Honey.
Speaker 3:Burdette all the way for me. I love it. I've got my women's event next week and I'm actually on the hunt for a new set, so that is on the cards.
Speaker 1:Another $600 gone.
Speaker 2:I've been looking at the Iconic. It's got some good ones too.
Speaker 3:Online.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's called the Iconic. I don't know.
Speaker 3:It's like last season's lingerie, but then you get them. I can't do my lingerie online, I've got to be because, once again, visual, visual, visual.
Speaker 1:Have to go in and try them on. It happens if you order it.
Speaker 3:It's a pain in the ass. You don't bring it back. I don't, and then I waste the money.
Speaker 1:God's good for it because, like we spend $30 on a pair of boxes and then if they don't fit, then your SpongeBob ones. Yeah, that's one your SpongeBob ones.
Speaker 3:Have you seen his SpongeBob ones? No, I'm just because he mentioned.
Speaker 1:SpongeBob. Oh, okay, I'm guessing he has some. Do I? I have to see it. One of my events, which events you're going to come to guys? So one of the other questions I've always wondered about, right, how does this go? Imagine you've got a party organised, your Halloween party in October, right? You see it advertised on Red Hot Buy and you're like, fuck, yes, I want to get tickets to that. You and your partner buy tickets for that. Comes up a week before and suddenly the wife's on a period.
Speaker 3:How does?
Speaker 1:that work. Oh, okay Because like that's always been something for me that I've gone.
Speaker 2:Change of mind.
Speaker 1:How does that actually go on? Like what's the protocol there? Is there a protocol?
Speaker 3:You mean for refunds or credits or things like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah like how does it work? Or do you talk to the wife and say what's wrong?
Speaker 3:Oh, I have definitely before. I've had women reach out to me and ask my opinion if they should. Firstly, I'm going to say women should be in tune with their cycle, so they should know when they're like. I know for me, I'm very in tune with my cycle, so I plan a lot of my events around, kind of I try to plan my events around that. So obviously, yes, not all women know that and things can happen. So I have a credit policy. I don't do refund policies. I pretty much. If for some reason it's like a good enough reason, you give me enough notice and you're nice and you're polite about it, then yes, I will give you a credit.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 3:Definitely for a situation like that. Yeah yeah, Something like that. Right, it's a week before the woman reaches out and says you know, look, this has, you know, happened.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So meaning you can come to another party within a year period basically yeah, okay, because I was always just sitting there thinking like would that be a barrier for some women? Not understanding that, like they can get a refund.
Speaker 3:Okay, so in that case, yes, it would definitely be a barrier for women attending, for sure.
Speaker 2:But sometimes your cycle just does whatever it wants. Yes, it does, absolutely it's like you know, I'm due for my period in a week. You wake up the next day it's like what the fuck is this here right?
Speaker 3:now yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'm going swimming today. Fuck off Like. That's what it's like.
Speaker 3:No, you're right, and I've had a lot of women that have not come to events because of that. But then I've had women still come and they're very open and they say, look, I can't receive, but I can give.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they say that and they just or they come and they just say I can't play, you know, because I'm, yeah, I'm on my cycle.
Speaker 2:Just go for the social aspect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it really depends on the person. I've had women reaching out to me freaking out before, not knowing whether to come, but really wanting to come because I got the tickets and the partner wanted to come and I've reassured them. Obviously there's no pressure to play and you can still come. So, yeah, it's really dependent on the person. Yeah, and I guess the situation. But yes, some women would not feel comfortable to come at all.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because to them they're like well, I can't really get involved and that's why, especially at my women's events, more so like even. I think there's about four or five women that were booked to come to my women's party a few months ago and they couldn't for reasons like this, and they're coming to an event next week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, and they're happy with that. Just roll it over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, roll it over and things like that. The reason I don't so much do refunds is because, honestly, this would be a whole new podcast and the kind of things I have to deal with in this industry yeah, I would imagine. And people. I have a lot of.
Speaker 2:No, I have no shows and you don't know how serious they are.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, I have no shows. I have people that just don't rock up and don't even ask for their money back, don't contact me, and that's because they've got cold feet before. That's because they've got cold feet before. I deal with you, deal with all kinds of things in this industry. I've had people that will buy and then all of a sudden they've decided something better comes along, and so they're like oh no, we don't want to. You know what?
Speaker 2:can be better than a sex fund.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we want a refund.
Speaker 1:Especially on a magic school bus.
Speaker 3:Oh no, oh no on the magic school bus. I know, I know.
Speaker 2:On the magic school bus With Mike Myers in the back corner.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, you two are hilarious.
Speaker 1:With the magic bus On the magic school bus, mike Myers in the back waving the dildo at you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's on the magic school bus with, like Miss Freeze driving it in the front, you driving it in the front.
Speaker 3:You two need to come to my December event. You're coming to the December event. It's organised on the bus it's awesome, I'm putting you on the VIP list as soon as. I leave with the bus.
Speaker 1:Just going to learn the words to the magic school bus and sing it the whole way on. I'm still thinking of themes.
Speaker 3:We'll have to do that, but there will be a bus, is it yellow?
Speaker 2:Please say it's yellow.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking of summer themes right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, summer themes. That's pondering, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, guys, if anyone's listening to this and you've got any ideas let us know, It'll be the middle of summer, of course it's got to be sexy.
Speaker 1:Got to be sexy.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you couldn't have like a suntan you know sunburn. Sunburn and suntan lotion theme.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not. It'd be very slippery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not the right sort of lube that you want.
Speaker 2:No, that is not what to use for lube, just a twice Everybody Sunscreen. Please don't.
Speaker 1:Factor 50 doesn't protect you from STIs. Oh yes, Nice.
Speaker 2:If it did, there's a whole new research paper going to go on.
Speaker 1:Wow, oh, nuts, all right. So, in terms of parties coming up, you've got your Halloween party. Well, you've got your women's only one next week Saturday yeah, next Saturday. Then you've got your Halloween one coming up. You've got your women's only one yeah, next next saturday yeah next saturday.
Speaker 3:Then you've got your halloween one coming up, you've got the barley, I've got the after the women's one. The reason it's so long in between perth events because everyone's like, oh, we've got to wait so long is barley is a lot of work and so my barley one is in august, which I'm in the full prep like full stages of that now you imagine six days, so Bali.
Speaker 3:And then when I get back and it was just really based around other people in the industry and I look at, obviously the dates was October the 4th. So then that's the Halloween soiree, october the 4th. Sorry, there's another women's event in September, so August Bali event. Then there'll be another women's event in September I think it's the 6th of September Saturday, don't quote me, I don't have my diary in front of me, but it will be September and then there'll be the Halloween one in October. Nothing in November, because I'm going away myself to Sri Lanka to do a retreat, and not a sex retreat, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 3:I'm going on a holiday, and then December is my what I'm calling summer sins party at the moment, that's the one where we're going on the bus.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's the one with the bus.
Speaker 1:That's you dressed up as Mike Myers, because sinful right. There you go, you're not really getting the Mac man.
Speaker 3:Is Summer Sins a theme, though? I don't know it sounds good.
Speaker 1:It's almost like Miami Vice, but different. Do you know what I really like?
Speaker 3:that it really downloaded. Well for me that Summer Sins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:December the 13th, and that's at the very cool venue with the bus.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying to think of the seven sins, and which one can I be?
Speaker 3:Actually you could do something like that, couldn't you? There we go done.
Speaker 4:Seven sins.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I swear money's for the greed.
Speaker 1:Yes, little tassels Woo, but you know what.
Speaker 3:I'm not that strict with my themes. If people don't want to come as long as you look sexy and you know you make some effort. Yeah that's it. I'm not going to tell you to go home, put it that way, but everyone made such an effort for the Mexican fiesta they really did at my last party, so yeah, then we've got the Summer Sins, and then I'm not sure about Perth next year. I've got, obviously, thailand in March, nice.
Speaker 1:And there's still places available for that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I've got half the rooms filled, so it's at 50% capacity. We're still quite a way to go.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think about how uni works out.
Speaker 3:You're like, can I March?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you'll be in the middle of the semester by then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I won't be able to do that, yeah.
Speaker 3:Five rooms left basically. Yeah, five rooms left, basically Nice.
Speaker 1:All right. So if people want to get in touch with you or go to one of your parties, what's the best way to get in touch with?
Speaker 3:you Well look, obviously if you're on Red Hot Pie, not everyone's on Red Hot Pie. Red Hot Pie is, I guess, a dating app for sexual exploration and they've been amazing and they support so all of my events are on Red Hot Pie. So if you look up Dream Kitty events, it will. I don't know if you'll put any links.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can put the link in there.
Speaker 3:So if you look up any of my events on Red Hot Pie, they're there, but also my Instagram people. I get a lot of inquiries through my Instagram these days, which is also Dream Kitty Events as well.
Speaker 2:So do you need a Red Hot Pie account to buy tickets?
Speaker 3:Sorry, yes, no you don't need a Red Hot Pie account, but you need a Red Hot Pie account to see the events. Yeah, so if you put a link in there, say you put a link in there to one of my red You're going to need to get the app anyway, yeah, okay, so, and you can get the app or reactivate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can reactivate. You can do a guest.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I share all my events on my Instagram account, okay cool. Yeah, all of my events are there. I probably post 10, 15, 20 stories a day sometimes. I'm very, Very active on my Instagram account.
Speaker 2:I need to learn to be active. I'm so jealous about that.
Speaker 3:I love it. I think it was from my days when I had my online business, yeah, so yes, no, my Instagram account. You'll find everything, and actually a lot of people DM me on there and ask about my events, and I don't have links anywhere and if I do, they're password protected. So you can't just go through and buy a ticket unless I've either met you you've come to my parties or, if not, you have to be vetted.
Speaker 2:Which I think is amazing, because you don't want these random people just showing up to cause a scene. Yeah, no so it's nice to know that you actually know the people that are coming to each party. Yeah, yeah, oh, no, you definitely can't.
Speaker 3:You might be able to find a link, but the women's ones actually. You can purchase the women's ones but none of the other ones. You have to reach out and say, hey, I'm interested, and then we'll have a chat and there's a password that I would give out if I guess, you're vetted and you're approved and stuff like that. But none of the links are on Red Hot Pie. Red Hot Pie has got a really good event section and it's got all of the events from a lot of the different event hosts all around Australia, but also international as well. So you said you've got it or you've had it. I've had it, yeah, yeah, you just go to the event section. I'm not sure if you're on Red Hot Pie.
Speaker 2:It's like all my dating apps. I keep them for 24 hours. I'm like this is fucking boring and then I just delete it and then you delete.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2:I'm a bit of a psychopath with deleting.
Speaker 3:A lot of people have Red Hot Pie for the event section, because it's not just my events that are on there. It's a mixture of them, so don't take it personally for delete the Red Hot Pie account.
Speaker 2:It's like all the people I match with on like Hinge and stuff.
Speaker 4:I'm like delete, delete and I come back on like three months later and they're like oh, you've come back on Tash, I'm like, yeah, I never really got a partner.
Speaker 2:I just fucking hate you guys because it's so annoying, right now Delete.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we need a whole new podcast for online dating. Don't even get me started, no, but to get to your event, literally get a Red Hot Pie account and hit you up Absolutely on my Red Hot Pie or my Dream Kitty and if you could share the link for my Dream Kitty. It is a private account but I obviously can approve people Yep, even if I haven't met you.
Speaker 2:Thank you for approving.
Speaker 3:I tend to just kind of have a bit of a look at people's profile and if they're following other accounts like mine, then obviously I kind of know that they're in the lifestyle.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, they're the best ways. I am on my phone a lot. I'm on messaging people back on Red Hot Pie and Instagram a lot. To be honest, yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1:I can imagine. But yeah, it's paying off because apparently your parties are absolutely awesome and we will definitely be finding out about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're coming on the Magic Bus in December.
Speaker 2:Keep it free.
Speaker 4:This is Magic School Bus?
Speaker 2:I don't know the thing? I'm going to download it just to play it on the bus. Wow, at the Magic School.
Speaker 1:Bus. Yes, you've been our person eroding everybody's sexy time. Yeah, maybe don't invite her.
Speaker 3:Oh no, that's mean It'll be a good one to be at and ticket sales for that. So Halloween event, I'm still selling tickets at the moment. Yeah, that is over 50% capacity. Wow so my events do sell out very quick, yeah, yeah, and the December one is not open yet. That won't open until October's sold out. Okay, to be honest, but it's just to save the date for people. Because it's December, people are busy, yeah.
Speaker 2:I need to save the date.
Speaker 3:Save the date December the 13th. I don't think I have anything planned for December. There you go. December the 13th. Once it opens, I guarantee you that will sell out within a few weeks, yeah, and a lot of us in the industry are getting our events out a lot far in advance. So, like I said, I've all got my now.
Speaker 2:People are very busy these days, yeah.
Speaker 3:Especially going to sex parties. Yeah, you could go to a different sex party every weekend or every night in Perth if you wanted.
Speaker 1:Seriously, and that's what I sort of said at the start, it's like this weird renaissance or like emerging of just sex parties.
Speaker 2:It's just in Perth.
Speaker 3:What do you think?
Speaker 1:it is, I don't know, because, like, if you have a look at the demographics as well, it seems as though the demographics are younger and younger.
Speaker 2:More accepting. Now as well, it's starting to get more accepting.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And when you look back into, like you know, the early 2000s and stuff, it wasn't as accepting as it is now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now, like with this whole CNM and polyamory and all that sort of stuff, yeah, definitely there's a lot more people that are ENM and polyamorous and things like that.
Speaker 2:Less more judging as well, I feel, yeah, yeah, excellent.
Speaker 1:This has been absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3:It has been fun. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:We'll put all the notes links in the show notes. Yep, and you'll have to come back on one day. Yes, maybe after we go to the party.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Let's do, oh my God, the pressure.
Speaker 3:Oh God, let's do a chat about how was your DK first DK party experience.
Speaker 4:On the magic school bus. On the magic school bus.
Speaker 3:No, thank you so much for having me. I really do love being able to share this on spaces like this, especially even if it just gets a few new people that have never been to my events, and it helps people to be more open, more fully expressed, more authentic and to know that my environments that I create are really safe spaces for that.
Speaker 2:I feel more comfortable if I was to go to an event after speaking to you and having all this information.
Speaker 3:To go to an event Amazing and that's really I say my parties are for the people, they're not for me. And when I first started, maybe I fell into it and I had a lot of fun. But now I really take them quite seriously and it is a business of mine and it is something I love to do and it's really for the people. There are people out there in the industry all around the world and I guess that are running it for themselves so that they get something out of it, whereas for me it's really all about being of service to other people and it just seems to be in the sex industry so great.
Speaker 1:It shows, because your name's out there and your name's covered in gold at the moment.
Speaker 3:Oh good, that's good to hear. Oh good, that's good to hear, I'm glad.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much though, for having me on here. It's been wonderful, all right.
Speaker 3:Over and out. Thank you. Bye.
Speaker 1:Well, if that didn't stir your curiosity or your loins, I don't know what will. Big thank you to Dream Kitty for giving us a peek behind the velvet curtain of her high-end swingers universe. If you're an adult looking to explore your own sexuality, open relationships or just wondering how the hell to even start, head to my website, jordanwalkerrsecom. I offer coaching, workshops and real talk minus the shame. And if you've got teens or young adults in your life who need sex ed, that actually makes sense.
Speaker 1:That's what we're doing over at YouWon'tLearnThisAtSchoolcom, because yeah they won't learn this at school, but they need to. You can also follow all the action and maybe even catch a few party clips over on Instagram and YouTube. Just search for Super Sex Podcast and, of course, follow Dream Kitty on our Insta and check out the Red Hot Pie app if you're curious about dipping your toes or more into the lifestyle. Until next time, stay curious, stay safe and remember great sex starts with great conversations.
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