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Episode 49: She Grabbed WHAT?! Axel Addams on Untold Truth About Male Stripping

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Ever wondered what really happens when the spotlights hit the stage and the music starts pounding? This eye-opening conversation with male entertainer and OnlyFans creator Axl Adams peels back the curtain on the glamorized yet often misunderstood world of professional stripping—and it's nothing like the movies would have you believe.

From heart-pounding first-time performances to learning the art of maintaining boundaries with handsy clients, Axl shares his journey from curious outsider to confident performer. We explore the surprising reality that female audiences can sometimes cross far more lines than men, the unspoken therapy element that comes with the job, and how performers create a clear division between their stage personas and private lives. "When I'm at home, I'm just quiet," Axl reveals, challenging the assumption that entertainers are perpetually in performance mode.

What emerges is a portrait of an industry that's evolved dramatically—one that demands professionalism, creativity, and strong personal boundaries. Far from the stereotypical drug-fueled debauchery of decades past, today's entertainment scene features choreographed routines, scheduled performances, and performers who view their work through a professional lens. Yet despite this evolution, entertainers still face hurdles from social media censorship to client misconceptions about their availability off-stage.

Whether you're curious about the economics of the industry (spoiler: most male entertainers in Perth work just once or twice monthly), the creative ambitions of performers looking beyond clichéd routines, or the psychological impact of navigating the line between fantasy fulfillment and personal boundaries, this conversation offers genuine insight into a world that's simultaneously exposed yet rarely understood.


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Speaker 1:

All right, sexy humans, welcome back to Super Sex, the podcast that's equal parts, science, sass and seriously good sex ed. Today we are sliding down the pole into a world that's often glamorized, misunderstood and occasionally oogled a little too hard. That's right. We're talking stripping, but not sequins and six-packs. We're unpacking the real behind the scenes with none other than Axl Adams, male entertainer, onlyfans creator, an absolute force of charm and consent. We get into how Axl got into the industry, the wild variety of his clientele, the blurred lines people think they can cross, and how he keeps it sexy and safe. Plus, we talk about what stripping teaches you about power, performance, boundaries and, let's be honest, the human libido in all its weird, wonderful glory. So, whether you've got dollar bills or just a whole lot of questions, buckle up. This one's got moves.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Super Sex, the podcast that dives into sex, relationships and absolutely everything in between. We're stripping away shame, turning up the truth and keeping it smart, playful and unapologetically real. So buckle up, because the combos are deep, the topics are juicy and the safe word is always more. Let's get into it. Alright, guys, today in the studio we have the one, the only, axel Adams. How in the hell are you, buddy, I'm well, thank you.

Speaker 2:

And yourself.

Speaker 1:

Very good, very good. We also have Tash Wilson.

Speaker 3:

How are you? I'm good, you good. Yeah, just good, yeah, yeah, good. Nothing's really changed since last time. I know that feeling, axel.

Speaker 1:

So you are basically on the scene in Perth, you're out there, You're shaking your bits, you're online, you're getting it out there for the girls and for the guys. So what I want to know, first up, technical term for things Back in my day, when I was dating a stripper because we could use that word back then can we still use that word? Or is it like progression now to sex worker, or is it different for guys? What's the technical term?

Speaker 2:

To clarify, that's probably 50 years ago, yeah okay, I feel like at Delicious, anyway, the boys get called himbos, himbos, yeah, so I think it's just like what they get called, and then obviously, I'll just call myself a male entertainer for like Instagram reasons, like T's and C's. Oh, you know that Sort of using you know the word stripper or like other things as well. You sort of got to use like spicy page or you can't be too direct with your I guess page.

Speaker 3:

That's where I was like finding it funny, because I didn't know what a mattress model was for a while and I'm like, oh, now I get it Mattress model.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you didn't know that either. Here I was thinking that's just like a fucking cool job that you can get like bed shed or something like that.

Speaker 3:

The Instagram has its ways.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just got to try not to upset the social media in that regard. But I'm happy to call myself an entertainer. That's what I'm there to do is to make people feel good, make people laugh, make people go woo and just have a good time. If I'm doing privates or I'm working at the club or if I'm doing a little feature show, like maybe for as If or Steamworks or a Hedo event, like I'm just there to just be me and sort of entertain for whoever finds it entertaining really Nice.

Speaker 1:

How did you get into this, though? Because it's not your regular everyday thing. You know, you wake up in the morning when you're 12 and go. You know what? Fancy being a mountaineer. That's where I'm going, you know, or was it? Was it always something that you fancied doing?

Speaker 2:

I was going to say like when you said the 12-year-old, I remember being like 15 and like I was like to my science teacher. She's like what?

Speaker 2:

are you going to do with yourself. I was a window watcher. I really didn't care for science. I was a window watcher, like I really didn't care for science. I was like I want to be some sort of tradesman and I want to be like an entertainer on the side. And she's like pretty much just like sort of outed me and made fun of me for it. I was like, oh okay, maybe that's silly then, but as getting older and like sort of seeing things progressing and like leaving a small country town and like moving to Perth and sort of exploring like different clubs or club, like bars and like different events, to sort of get to meet different people.

Speaker 2:

And then you're like, okay, maybe it's not that different, it's not that weird to want to do something like that. And then, funnily enough, like I'm dating a stripper now at penthouse Sky Aspen follower, she's amazing. Um, she definitely made it a lot more comfortable for me to sort of open up to her and be like, okay, no, like, this is something I want to do and she's my biggest supporter and she's always, always, um, pumping up my tires. So like, yeah, you got this, you got this, you're great, you're fantastic.

Speaker 2:

And and then met someone at a kick-ons that uh, host the delicious nights and he told me to come down, um, to a training day. And then I met at a kick-on that hosts the Delicious Nights and he told me to come down to a training day. And then I met all the boys and then went from there and now I'm doing a little five-minute stage show on the next weekend yeah, 21st and yeah, I love it. Like it's just good to be out there, like going to like a bar and being the person that people want to see, instead of just going out for the sake of going out and like being oh, like I need to get a night off and just have drinks and like forget about it. Like now I'm that person that is there that people go to have those drinks, and then I'm that extra entertainment they get to see, which is pretty cool, like just make people's night feel a bit good and, you know, just have conversations.

Speaker 3:

That would feel really good, I'm guessing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that does sound good.

Speaker 2:

And for people to think they're like, oh, you've got to have some big balls to go up there, or like I'm like most people have pretty small flaccid willies, like that's pretty well known, everyone's got small flaccid willies. It's not like most people are growers, not showers.

Speaker 1:

I am one. I'm definitely not a shower.

Speaker 2:

I'm a grower and for me to be up on stage, to go completely from a tight vest, singlet and dress, pants and dress shoes to being absolutely naked, I was the most comfortable. I've ever been naked in my life. Like I felt. I just like people were loving it. I was screaming and cheering and I was dancing while naked and I just had the confidence of a proud lion. Like I just felt so good, shit.

Speaker 1:

That's so good that you had that experience, though, because last time I was naked in public, people were screaming as well, but it was more like put your fucking clothes back on.

Speaker 3:

I would be screaming put your clothes back on Jordan. No one wants to see that my eyes.

Speaker 1:

Listen, my wife likes it, so whatever. So that first time, though, I can imagine, going into that moment, that you just would have been nerves.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it was wild. So like I got pulled out of a hat to do like a three-minute lap dance comp. So like you don't know the person that's on stage, you don't know the song that's playing, so like you're just walking blind.

Speaker 2:

I'm sweating already and that was my first night working and like I got pulled up to do that around like I think 9 o'clock, so I think I might have got a few lap dancers in to like sort of ease it in, and then they were like all right, now, lap dance comps are on now.

Speaker 2:

I'm like okay fuck Versing, someone that I was like has been in the industry for a while, tommy Prince and good-looking bloke like very entertaining. And then he went first. So then I'm just like in this behind the stage is a door, so like it's like a little side room, and I'm just like standing there going, fuck, all right, no, you got this Like you're here for a reason. And then, like I opened the door and then I was just like the lights weren't but no one was home. I just like I went blank, went autopilot, but like I managed to do my thing, sort of went through like a small curry for what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2:

There's a few moves that I probably could have done a bit better, but the woman was wearing quite a long dress and like my boots were getting caught in between her dress and then I was like trying to like roll over and whatnot, but I made it work and, like a few of obviously, sky's friends come down to support me, which was nice, and then they all come up to me. I was like you smashed it. You're a natural. How was that your first time on stage? I'm like I don't know what I did, like I forgot what I did.

Speaker 3:

All I know is I was on stage.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we went through the video, like that, as I was on stage. Yeah, we went through the video that I think Tyler and Melina caught on film and then I was like oh, I actually look pretty good up there, like surprising I was like oh sick. Thanks guys.

Speaker 1:

So it seems so for context. I dated a female entertainer, stripper, whatever it was, back in those days, but that was like 20 years ago. That's probably like before you were born, almost yeah 25 years ago, maybe 30.

Speaker 1:

It was long enough that everything was in black and white, let's just call it that. But back then it was a distinct sort of amateur thing, like the girls would just sort of wing it on stage, they'd have a few drinks, a couple of them would be like getting on the gear or something like that. But sort of towards the end of my time with that particular girlfriend, I noticed like a distinct shift towards professionalism and they were doing choreography and like they were hitting the club at like midday to practice and get all that happening and that's like what you were just talking about. You know, I had this choreography and then I watched it back and seeing how it could improve. Yeah, it's not just like this amateur gig where you're getting up there shaking your ass however you want. Now it's. It's like full professional, though right 100.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it's definitely handy with social media now that, like you, can obviously edit things very easily from just simply just using your phone or just recording and like and then following other people around the world that do the exact same thing and I feel like in like a women's sense of things.

Speaker 2:

Like there's a woman called uh the ventress that like runs like a course for girls in the industry to like sort of utilize their time in the industry and not make it like I'm going to be here forever. No, you're going to have a five-year, ten-year plan to get out. Yeah, like you're here to make money and you're here to get out, and then obviously be professional and like, treat it like it's your job. Basically it is like. Treat it like a like it's your job, basically it is but treat it like something. It's like all right, it's something. What can we do to work towards getting out? Because, yeah, no one wants to be an entertainer for the rest of their life, like because obviously it is hard on the body. Like I can, I can vouch for my partner for, you know, nearly being in for eight years and like having to wear like nine inch heels every day and like it my, my cast are just screaming yeah, thinking about that shit.

Speaker 2:

And then, yeah, putting a brave face and obviously like she's amazing what she does, like I get a hyper up so much every time I have that have had the opportunity to see her. Like she's amazing, like I can say why that she has like regular clients that like always want to book her for lap dances, cuz, and she's great to talk to, like she's like very soothing, very comforting, so like she's very professional. Yeah, but I definitely feel like it's changed a lot. It's like it's not like you see people like in the corner of the club like racking up lines or like you know, know, just being an absolute menace. Like there's like scheduling and people like have times and what they have to do for stage is like full, delicious anyway. Like we all have like a routine, like I'm going to be going on 8.30 and then someone else is going to be going on like 8.45 and then like while changing in change rooms, like it's very organized. It's not like it's the party central, like it can be, but like it's a professional party.

Speaker 1:

Yeah now talk to me about money, because I can just imagine my ex. She would go out some nights and some nights she'd walk back in with a couple hundred bucks and then that was it. And then other nights she'd walk back in with 10 grand and I was just sitting there going holy shit, like this is stupid money. And then she'd have like four or five of those nights in a row and I was just like what is going on? But the other people around that industry at the time, the male entertainers they were not getting anywhere near that.

Speaker 2:

I can imagine that's still the case, right yeah, because, like for us, like we're a once a month um thing, sometimes twice a month, so like it's definitely not saying I can live off, yeah, so it's more of a hobby thing at the moment but I'd like to try and do a little bit more like as in feature things.

Speaker 2:

So like um, obviously delicious is once a month, um, as if events Connections is once a month, so like that could be two shows I could do. But like for obviously for the girls, like you can be working like penthouse, like from Tuesday to Sunday, yeah, and like you could be making fast money like $1,000 a night or you could be making $100 a night, like it just depends on who comes in. If you have regulars and trying to land regulars, that's a very hard and very talented thing to do because I mean I'd love to go to the strip club, you know, every day and spend five hundred dollars, but that's just not feasible for me. But for someone to be able to like book people to do that and sort of be able to just be that sort of therapist that people like need to see, to talk to and see and feel better, like it is a good thing. But like I feel like, um, in the male industry, like it's, it's hard because it's once a month for me anyway.

Speaker 1:

yeah, now talk to me about clientele, because there's something I want to pat like dig into a little bit more there, but I want to get to the clientele first. The clientele, because there's something I want to like dig into a little bit more there, but I want to get to the clientele first. The clientele that are coming to your shows. Are they female? Are they single? Generally married? Are they males? Like, is there a mix or it's a mix?

Speaker 2:

like it's, um, I feel like it's mainly. It's been sort of like middle-aged women having a night off from husband, girl's night Sounds like me and Vicky can go.

Speaker 2:

Probably if you want, you'd better watch out actually yeah, and then, obviously, like it being once a month, so sort of people book it for like hen's nights or like birthdays, and then they try and like, stitch up the birthday girl, put them on nights or like birthdays, and then they try and, like, you know, stitch up the birthday girl, put them on stage, and then one of the himbos decides, you know, go, ooh, be a bit fun with it. But no, I think with that, with the people that do rock up, like we have a few regular people that come in like each time that they're just happy, they're just like this is our favorite time of the month, like just to come down see you boys perform and like have a few drinks, because obviously, like we can hand out bar tokens for people that like like I have some have some drinks like yeah, thank you and

Speaker 2:

then, um, obviously as well, like we get men come in and they're like amazing to talk to. I love when men come in. It's like they're just, they're very, they can be like respectful. I've had a few bit handsy. I'm just like there's, there's rules like oh, sorry, sorry, I'm like no, it's fine, just don't do it again.

Speaker 2:

Um, but then you get, like you know, I've had like one woman like trying, like like grab me and like twirl me around and then like smack my ass, and then I was like I was like walked off and then she tried doing again. I was like touch my ass. And then I was like I don't know, I was like walked off and then she tried doing it again. I was like touch my ass again, I'll get you fucking kicked out. And she's like what? I'm like that touch was not invited. Like if I said that was okay, that's fine. But like you just groping me, like that that's harassment. And she's like oh, is it? I'm like yeah, like if I did that to you, would you like that? And she's like no, I'm like exactly.

Speaker 3:

I think females can be a bit more.

Speaker 2:

They can be handsy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and we can actually treat men more like meat than men treat women.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's it right, because I did have a mate after high school who got into male entertainment and some of the stories he was coming back with was just fucking wild, especially those hens nights and the hens on stage, and like some of the stories he was coming back with was just fucking wild, especially those hens nights and the hens on stage and like some of the shit that goes down in there. And at that time I was comparing that to my understanding of what happens within a female club and it was like chalk and cheese because, like, if you even so much breathe towards a female in the wrong way, you're fucking hauled out by some 7'12 bouncer. Yeah, like kicked out. But give me the lowdown on that. Is it? Is it super handsy? And does some of that crazy shit actually go on where, like, hens are given blowjobs and all that sort of stuff?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I haven't heard anything yet. I'm obviously still a baby stripper in the industry.

Speaker 2:

So I haven't seen anything, but for me anyway, I was given a guy a lap dance and I was sort of guiding his hands on my hips and then on my chest and then, like he like whispered to me and he's like oh, what are you? I was like what do you mean? He's like are you gay, are you straight, are you bi? I was like I'm just happy. And he's like that's not what I want to know.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I'm fluid, like it's just like um, I'm happy with whoever like I'm, I'm around, sort of thing, and he's like okay, and I was like, I was like I know, you want to know. And he's like what he's like if I'm on top or a bottom, and he's like yeah, I was like I'm a bottom. And then, like he grabbed my like between my cheeks and he's like yeah, like that, I'm like, oh, that's enough. Like it was like a very firm grip like on my like cheek and I'm like okay, like no, that's uh, that's enough, I guess. Oh, sorry, like I didn't, I didn't think I was like no, that's fine, like you're getting a bit carried away, and I sort of didn't really pick up on where you were going with it, because I'm still learning, but like I feel like now, if I like hear those sort of like um like I guess triggers or flags or something.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, no okay, this dude's going to be a bit handsy. You've got to keep an eye on him. And then if he does, I just be like look, don't do that again, otherwise you'll get kicked out, because basically we have a rule of like one strike and then, once you do, that that's all you get, and if you do it again, you just get kicked out, you're gone, and if you do it again, you just get kicked out, you're gone.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and security is pretty good, like if you just let them know this person like in the green sweater, like keep an eye on them. If, like you, come up with another complaint like get rid of them. But like we have had, like my first show, we're doing like this Iron Buns comp and like squeezing Red Bull cans between our cheeks. And who could do it? The?

Speaker 2:

most sexy, which was pretty fun. One of the boys like just tried doing it with his pants on. I'm like, have you been to like a pub seeing Skimpy's squash cans? And he's like, no, I'm like you do it like this. I'm like I can pull it down and then put it between my cheeks and cross my legs over. And he's like, oh, okay, okay, that makes more sense. Like, yeah, but like while we're doing that, there was a woman in the crowd that was like filming and um, while we're on stage, not allowed to film um, and then apparently he got sent a snapchat from that person. It was like like an ex-girlfriend of his yeah, and like he was his first night working and um, he's like fuck like, what do I do?

Speaker 1:

what do I do?

Speaker 2:

I was like delete it, kick her out. You have that power to tell security. Like they were filming, they posted it. That's against the rules, Fucking let her out.

Speaker 2:

I think he was a bit shy, he was a bit shooken up by it. He's like, oh, like fuck, I didn't think that person was going to be here. I'm like I guess, like, if you are worried about things like that with being an entertainer, like you do have that risk of, like you know, ex-girlfriends or like work colleagues coming in. Like I'm trying to like manage my account the best I can to like sort of keep my you know real life to this life as separate as possible, but at the end of the day, you're going to struggle.

Speaker 1:

Like you can't block the whole world from seeing you yeah, because obviously my account is open for people to see, but like I also don't want certain people to see, um, just of, yeah, until I feel completely comfortable yeah, because that that's something that's radically changed in like the last I know 10 years, I suppose, whereas people who are out there, um, within that industry, they have to be on those socials in order to get those clients, in order to get that money coming through right. So it's almost like this double-edged sword where you have to throw yourself out there to a certain extent but then it almost becomes like a legacy thing, whereas there's going to be like that digital footprint all the way along and that's. I can imagine that's so hard for people like yourself and you know other people within the industry, because nowadays it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's not like 20 years ago where you could do it within the confines of a club and you could sit there and like, once you walk out the door for the last time, that's it. Yeah, and you know, you move cities and and you're good. But now, like with this digital face recognition and all that sort of stuff, you're pretty much out there for a long time until you know you scrub yourself from the internet if you can.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, because I feel like for me, like I'm I'm not that worried about that, like I feel like there there could be worse things, like me presenting myself on Twitter or OnlyFans, creating content with Sky or other people, or just doing solo stuff. That really doesn't bother me. I feel like if there was videos of me ripping cones or shooting up or something, I feel like that leaves a bit more of a worse digital footprint.

Speaker 2:

I feel, like me just presenting myself completely naked and just performing and acting. I feel like that is perfectly fine. And for me to be like in my 60s or 70s and be like, yeah, I'm not mad about that, I look pretty good there, quite fair.

Speaker 3:

Hey have a look at this. Look at what I used to look like.

Speaker 1:

And I'm only just about 10, 40 and I'd still be doing that about five years ago, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I totally get it. I totally get it and I think as well. Now you've got that layer of professionalism to fall back on, whereas the industry 10, 15, 20 years ago, whatever it was, was really sort of stigmatized around. If you're in it, you were some form of slut or you were some form of junkie, yeah, and you were just doing it to feed your habit, whereas now I don't necessarily think it's there, is it Like we're way past that, it seems 100% Like it's just more common these days.

Speaker 2:

Like for people to be for doing it like it's it's not a bad thing or a taboo thing and it never should be. Like and the unfortunate thing in australia of like it's not a recognized job. So like, obviously, like as entertainers or like as being a or even like escorting it's not recognized. Like, um, you don't get paid medicaid, you don't get paid sick. Like you don't get paid Medicare. You don't get paid sick leave. You don't get paid because you're your own person, you're your own sole body employer, you have ADN. That's you.

Speaker 2:

Like it's not like you're getting any treatment or anything like that. Like if you have a sick day, you're not getting paid sick leave. You don't have annual leave. You don't have maternity leave. Like that's still the shit thing. Like that's where it's still taboo in the australian government. But like for people to feel like the less judgment yeah, like everyone's like very supportive of sex workers. Like a lot of my friends are sex workers now and like they're the most loveliest, nicest people you ever meet and the most creative and they're awesome to be around. Compared to like, obviously, being in the construction industry. Like you work with some fucking pieces of shit.

Speaker 2:

That's right, you do, yeah, and like just misogynistic, fucking homophobic pieces of shit on a construction site. And then when you go into this world, like everyone is just very free spirited, everyone supports each other, everyone hypes each other up Like it's a beautiful little world. That should be not a taboo thing. But there's still obviously that sort of little percentage of people that will be like you're a fucking skank if you do that. What do your parents think I'm like? Grow up cunt.

Speaker 3:

Literally.

Speaker 1:

They are so fucking backwards in a lot of the way. Hey, like these people that are going out there and I tend to agree with you the people who I've met who work in the sex industry are fucking great people for the most part. Like you obviously always get your bad egg in every industry, but for the most part they're fucking great. And like I mean, I just wonder as well, like how much of it is still controlled by like organised crime though, because it was fucking rife back in the day, but I can imagine that's pulled back quite a lot now as well.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, I wouldn't have a clue, though, Like I feel, like I don't think so, Like I don't know how to answer that one but, like I guess. It's sort of like how many moons ago where, like I guess, tattoo artists and like I guess strippers as well were all sort of that, like that little like percentage of like people that would think were bad eggs, but they're just creative people. Yeah, and I wouldn't really consider it as organized crime.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't really know how to answer that one. It's a different dance style. You've got ballet like famous ballet dancers. Why can't there be famous street dancers?

Speaker 1:

Well, there are. I think there's far more fame, but do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:

But why is it so different? Why are the stigmas so different? It's just a different dance style.

Speaker 1:

Because it's sex, because it's Like you guys have to sell that fantasy. It's like what you were saying when you were dancing for that guy the other day, like probably a large part of the reason why you didn't want to just jump in and say, oh, this is exactly who I am, is because you're trying to keep that fantasy alive, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, try and get along, Because obviously when we're in the lap dance booth it's only for five minutes. But, like, if we can try and like boost it along like another um five minutes, there's another fifty dollars.

Speaker 2:

so, like, if you can try and, like you know, keep that sort of thing going, like you can sort of like make him but oh yeah, I want you longer. And then you sort of get into their head and just sort of be that little naked therapist that like that they want to talk to and like you sort of like, all right, I can nitpick these things and sort of get a bit more in their head.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that therapy thing, that's what I wanted to dive into, because-.

Speaker 3:

You want to be a naked therapist? I do Okay, no one would pay.

Speaker 1:

But it's all I've ever wanted. But yeah, like female entertainers, they are therapists. Like guys go in there and they literally just pour their shit out and the girls will. They're sitting there with their tops off and just talking to these guys and helping them with their problems. Is it the same for male entertainers as well?

Speaker 2:

I feel like with us, because it's only like five minutes, so like you can't really get much words out. So that's why, like if I were to have anything a bit longer, or sort of like, even before we go into a dance, I'll sort of have a chat with them and talk to them, and then we'll do our five minute dance and then I'll chat with them after and then sort of like get to know them a bit better.

Speaker 2:

I feel like as a like a woman, like in in the industry you can obviously book for like a lot longer, like an hour or like three hours, like that's a lot of time for you to sort of really like get to know someone and like as you can get love so well sorry, I'll repeat that like when going for your first lap dance, like it can be a very like daunting experience, can very be.

Speaker 2:

you can be very shy, you don't know what to do, but like if someone is can see that they're worried and okay, like you just got to calm them down, but just talk to them and then, when you're talking to them, they start to feel a bit more relaxed and then they'll sit more comfortable in the chair and then you can sort of hold them a bit and then, obviously, more layers come off, more layers come off and then they're just like I'm in love. Um, because I remember, like my first lap dance experience, I was like I tipsy, I think I had a little bit too much to drink, and then I was just like just didn't know where to look.

Speaker 2:

I was just like what's going on and she's like you, like that. I'm like yeah.

Speaker 3:

I just didn't know what to say.

Speaker 2:

I felt so awkward, like being from a small country, town, and then all of a sudden, just like in the strip club, and there's like beautiful women everywhere. I'm just like I don't know where to look, but okay, um, just yeah, having a good time, and but I remember that it was like 15 minute dance downstairs and then, like, as it was happening, I'm just like.

Speaker 2:

I was sort of just like just wandering looking at the roof and stuff because there's nowhere to look, because I don't want to feel rude, um, and it's never rude to look because that's what you're paying for. But, um, at the time I did, but like it was weird. It was like the booth, like in front of me there was this like dude and like as this, like he was like sitting there and he had his like phone and he was like filming. I'm like is he filming us? And then I was like, oh, excuse me, sorry to bother you, but I but I think that guy's filming, I say, and she turned her head and he quickly dipped his phone. I'm like, no, I just feel super uncomfortable, sorry. Like I want this dance. Dance. She goes oh, that's all good, like that shouldn't have happened.

Speaker 3:

I'm like no, it fucking shouldn't have.

Speaker 2:

And then obviously a year went by, I went to Penthouse again and I got a lap dance off the sky and then like I was just like okay, this is a lap dance. I was like I was super comfortable, we spoke for an hour and then I was like I want to see you again. She's like no.

Speaker 2:

And then obviously we met up afterwards like a few months in advance because I went on holidays after that night. But no, it was funny, it's just like from being super uncomfortable like when I was 23, and then went when I was like 24 and just yeah, I was just like so relaxed and it just felt so much better. I feel like that's another thing. You just got to be relaxed and then that whole therapist thing comes in of, like all right now you need to be able to make people feel good, and then that's when you can just like keep them going.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. So you're saying that you're with Sky. How hard do you press her for, like tips, to be able to work for clients, or is she just like free-flowing with it? It's just like. This is what you need to do. This is how you do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she is a bit of my coach, that's, that's, that's one thing to call. Like it reminds me of like junior footy and, like you know, going in the huddle and you're like, yeah, you need to be doing this, you need to be doing that. Because she did come to my first night. Thankfully. We double checked with, like the organisers, like, oh, can my partner come? Just like I feel like I'd be a bit more comfortable just to, yeah, if I can talk to her, like in the night.

Speaker 2:

Yeah that's fine, like it's all good, like she's got a tip, like she loves like this sort of like industry to like and to support me and support the other guys, like she's happy to you know, do the thing, do the rounds and shit. But that was funny. It was like every time I'd like I'd be circling and trying to like talk to people because it was my first night, my heart was in my throat. It was like very, very intense. And then like I'd circle back to her and she's like everyone you're talking to wants you. So take them in the fucking lap dance booth.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, okay, work hard, bitch, you're buying me dinner tonight, go.

Speaker 3:

You're hot, Do something. I'm like work up a bit.

Speaker 2:

You're buying me dinner tonight Go, you're hot, do something. I'm like I'm trying. She's like you just take them. Don't say do you want a lap dance? Like no, you are having one. I'm like okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I like that because that's like getting into deep psychology about it. It's like grabbing their hand and just saying you're doing this right now.

Speaker 2:

She Like grabbing their hand and just saying you're doing this right now. She's like you're pretty, like get into their face, like sort of like give them the lover eyes that you have. Like just be you and be a bit more forward with it. Like don't be so reserved. I'm like okay, sorry.

Speaker 3:

Yes, boss.

Speaker 1:

Yes, mistress. So the venues that you work, so you do these like I'm guessing they're like sort of nightclub takeovers and you'll do those a couple of times a month. Then you do bars as well, and privates, so I've done one private.

Speaker 2:

So that was, I think, january this year, a summer, which was fun. That was for a hen's night along the river, yeah, so like basically I was in, a tie was booty shorts and bow ties.

Speaker 2:

So, I was just trying to find some shorts and then, like I was sending it to the person that was hosting it, I was like I've got these ones from Connor. She's like no, no, no, no, we want short short. I'm like okay. Like where do I go to get fucking short short? She goes, I'll play in pleasure. I'm like okay. So I went there and like they were very limited on the male section, I was like all I can find is these like mesh, like boxer booty shorts, because they wanted leather. I was like this is all I can find that actually fits and they look good. And they're like no client loves it Sick. I'm like sweet. So yeah, wore that pair of black vans, bow tie, and then they gave me this little sailor hat that said best bitch on it. So I was best bitch for four hours on the boat and just yeah, serving the girls drinks. But like I went into that thinking it was just topless waitering. So I was just doing my waitering thing, chatting to people, and they're like do a dance.

Speaker 2:

I'm like for money. They're like, just do it. I'm like I've got nowhere to swim here. I'm just strapped on a boat. So I did a little bit of dancing, but I just felt like I was looking at the host and I'm like oh, I thought I was here as a topless waiter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

If, like, if I was there as a stripper as well, I'd be like, all right, I'll do that. I just thought it being my first show, I was like, oh, first time. I was like I thought it was Topless Waitering, but that's okay. But, and then I haven't done a private since, and then I've worked, obviously, two delicious nights and then tonight I'm doing a Steamworks little feature. Oh nice, so I've never been, so it's going to be interesting you haven't seen.

Speaker 2:

Steamworks. No, no, okay, it's going to be interesting for me anyway. And then I think basically it's just being in a cage for like two hours, so like just dancing in a cage, slowly taking clothes off, sort of just being a little slutty boy in the cage, but they can't touch you apparently. So I hope the cage is pretty foolproof.

Speaker 1:

I was about to say they'll probably fucking try.

Speaker 3:

It's a no petting zoo, no petting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not like those old 18th century zoos with the iron bars and you know, try and put your hand in and get bitten by the fucking tiger.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, it should be interesting. So that's from, I think, yeah, 10 o'clock till midnight. That's through Hollywood Entertainment. So I look forward to that. So I just got a group chat and then just reached out.

Speaker 1:

I like the intro of the job was like this job sorts out the boys from the men, because I can imagine that would give you a different set of nerves, though right performing for an all guy audience in what is essentially like a sex club.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so like obviously I've never been to like any sort of like. I haven't been to Steamworks or Hedo or like the like, threesome events or anything like that Like. So this whole like sex world is all very new and exciting for me. So like I do look forward to it, but like I can handle myself pretty well in that situation. But like I'm there as an entertaining, I'm not there to participate. Yeah, so I feel like I just need to like obviously make that very, very clear and known when I'm there, but I feel like it'd be sweet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh easy. So jumping back to the bar, though, like when you go to the bar and when guys go to a skimpy bar, there is, like this, there's a very sort of known crowd that you go with. Like the guys that turn up to a skimpy bar are pretty known, right, like, let's just say what it is they're fucking Bogans. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Bogans and Charities For the most part right.

Speaker 1:

Who's turning up to the bar when you're on stage?

Speaker 2:

I mean it's just like mums, mums, and like, just like, I guess, fresh 18-year-olds, and like, obviously, like gay men, like, just like everyone. Like it's just like it's very mixed. It's not like you can narrow it down to like obviously, yeah, skimpies have a lot of bogan followers. Like for us, it's like it's a mixed crowd, like which I do. Like, so like I can spot out people and then be like okay, like I could definitely talk to them pretty easily. Like for me, anyway, like being heavily tattooed, like if I see someone with, like you know, small tattoos, a lot of tattoos, I feel like that's just like my bullet point. To like talk to someone, I'll be like, oh, I love your work, Like who's your artist, and then go from there and then be like well, there's a lot more of me, if you want to see, and they'd be like oh okay, so how far does the tattoos go?

Speaker 2:

Like? There's one way to find out.

Speaker 1:

Lap dance, please. So talk to me about propositioning, though, because my ex used to come in all the time and she'd be like. I've been asked out on three dates, been asked if I can shag 12 different guys tonight, and the answer to every one of them was clearly no. But how much is that happening for?

Speaker 2:

you, um, I haven't had it happen too much, obviously. I've only done like, obviously, one private and they had two, two nights at the club, um, I think one of my privates. They're just like oh, what's your plans after this? Like sort of things. I'm just like home and go play PlayStation. They're like, oh lame. I'm like, yeah, see ya. Like job's done. I'm not here to party any extra than I have. But no, I feel like everyone's been pretty tame, like as again. Like I feel like being like a single man doing it. Like I feel like you could very much be like a little bit cheeky with it, but for me, like it's just completely professional. Like there's no like temptation at all to be like sneaky or anything like that. Like that does not interest me one bit. Like I'm here to work. Like I'm not here to entertain your fantasy to fuck a stripper. Like I'm sorry I'm not that to entertain your fantasy to fuck a stripper. Like I'm sorry, I'm not that guy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it does happen. A lot, though, doesn't it?

Speaker 2:

I mean it definitely does. Like I haven't seen or heard of it, like I don't really involve myself in that, like I'm just there to work and have fun. But I definitely have heard people or had black people go like I want to take you home and fuck you, I'm like that's not happening. Why don't we just go on the lap dance? No that costs money. I'm like, well, you think what? Well, what? Yeah, of course it costs money.

Speaker 3:

This doesn't come out for free.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I once read this story it was a where was it? It was one of those like internet confessional sort of things. But basically the wife had organized a night where she got this real nice hotel room and she sat there in a chair in this real fine lingerie and she said that she was looking fly as fuck and she hired these couple of male entertainers to come and do a dance for her. But the whole idea was that she was going to proposition and get them into bed and they basically just turned up, did the dance and said that's it, we're out. We've got all the work to get to, let's get out of here.

Speaker 2:

I can imagine her just sitting there going. Oh, that's not what I wanted.

Speaker 1:

The fantasy's gone. But I think for a lot of females, like maybe that fantasy is there and they feel as though, like you're an objectified thing for a lot of people I can imagine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean like I feel like if people do have that fantasy, like there's other I guess, like avenues that go down, like obviously there would be people that do escorting, like if you feel like there is something that you want or desire, like there's plenty of men that would happily pay, like to um, for women to do like escorting that like their partner might not be interested in, and I feel like that's a whole lot of when, like, people have those fantasies and a lot, of, a lot of divorces and just breakups happen because they just can't communicate, because it's like yeah for example, like there might be a man going oh I just really want my wife to piss on me and but like I don't want, I don't think she'll be into that, and then they go ahead and just pay someone to do it, which is ethical, but like at, I feel like you should just be able to communicate that with your partner.

Speaker 1:

Oh fuck right.

Speaker 2:

Or even be at that point, like not even be at that point and be like you know, 10 years married, and be like maybe this is not the person I should have married because she's not going to piss on me, sort of thing. I feel you need to get that out straight away. Like first like three months. What are we into?

Speaker 1:

I honestly reckon, right, just spot on with that. You've got to have that conversation about the kinks, the fetishes, fucking, paraphilias, everything that you're into, because, like, yes, sex does evolve and it it is fluid over time, like you move into different things that you were never into before and all that sort of stuff. But generally, like, if you were kinky at the start of a relationship, you're probably only going to get more kinky towards the end of a relationship You're not going to regress and go the other way.

Speaker 1:

So you know, have those conversations, definitely, but all right, talk to me, though, about this the person that you're at home is that very different from the person that you are on stage?

Speaker 2:

A hundred percent Like me at home. I'm very just like quiet because it's just me.

Speaker 1:

Like.

Speaker 2:

I'll just be. I've got a one-bedroom apartment to myself and I'll just be there playing my PlayStation and going through emails and just like either, or just making content.

Speaker 2:

But I guess stage presence is very flamboyant, very, very loud, very, very zesty, as I've been told um but no, I just, yeah, I like to be like to be heard, like to be seen, um, and obviously I just, I just I enjoy it like. But when I'm at home, definitely just a lot quieter. Yeah, like I just keep to myself go for walks, exercise, stretch like very like, very mundane, and then, yeah, when Axel's on stage, yeah, completely different.

Speaker 1:

And that's the thing, isn't it? It's like that's the other layer of professionalism there for you because, like you are, when you step into that role when Axel goes on stage, you are. When you step into that role when Axl goes on stage, you are performing, you're stepping outside of yourself to perform. It's like when we go to a fucking, you know our job. We are going there to perform our role, we are not. That's not us. But I think with people in that sort of sexual entertainment space, people don't see that. They're literally just like oh, you know, you do this on stage, so therefore you like that all the time. So therefore, you know I can have that slice of you because you're just completely gagging for it all the time and you know you're free and loose and easy because that's what you are. Yeah, you know, and they've just got like this bullshit perception of people within that entertainment space.

Speaker 2:

Yeah on that as well was like, if you're very not into the industry or the sex scene, or just like you don't know people, but like you're judging them by their Instagram or their OnlyFans or their Twitter and you're like must think, like oh, these people are obsessed with sex, they love sex.

Speaker 3:

I bet they just want to fuck all the time no one's going to look at ours.

Speaker 2:

Like no, like they just want to read a book and just enjoy a quiet time, like when they get home from their you know normal job that they'd work as a sex worker, like the last thing they want to do is you know, fuck, they just want to. Just want to read a book, go to bed, have a nice coffee and then just be themselves and just like put that character of theirs to rest for nice coffee and then just be themselves and just like put that character of theirs to rest for a bit and then just be like their true self yeah um, because I definitely feel like a lot of people can be mistaken of like it's like

Speaker 2:

well, they present themselves and doing this and they're dancing and they're like you know, they're obviously having a lot of sex and they're like they're making like content, they're filming. Filming with constant people like their life must be so fun. This is all about sex. I'm like no, it's exhausting. Like if you're a performer or a content creator, like doing multiple scenes and sessions with people like you're exhausted and then you're going to yeah, definitely, and then people just think like oh, this is their life, Like no, it's not their life, this is their life.

Speaker 2:

Like no, it's not their life.

Speaker 1:

This is their job. See, I resonate with that a lot because, like, obviously, we're talking sex pretty much all the fucking time, every day. You know, you're at work, you're talking about it, I'm talking about it, you know, with the people I'm educating, and then obviously on the podcast. But people are like, oh, you know with the people I'm educating, and then obviously on the podcast, but people are like, oh, you know, are you just immersed in it all of the time? I'm like, fuck no man.

Speaker 1:

Like when I'm out and driving and I'm just by myself I'm listening to like a gone medieval podcast or some shit like that you know, like I don't want to be in this stuff all the time because, like, like, you do need that space away to just be, you, you know, and it is your fucking job, but talk to me about this OnlyFans stuff, because everybody's got this thing at the moment, where you jump on OnlyFans and suddenly you're going to be a hundred billionaire and like taking on Elon Musk for how much money? You've got in your bank.

Speaker 2:

Truth false.

Speaker 1:

Give me the lowdown.

Speaker 2:

I mean that would be awesome. I'd love to be Elon Musk and be a millionaire. That would be sick to have that net worth. Unfortunately, no, it's not when for myself, starting off with zero followers, zero anything, because I didn't use, like any of my other accounts from my other followers to like sort of like bring across. I went completely incognito and started at zero. I feel like it's hard to definitely build like yourself up, but I feel like you've just got to keep advertising on multiple platforms, whether it's OnlyFans, twitter, instagram, tiktok but then as well with TikTok and Instagram, you get flagged oh yeah, like for using the wrong word or posting something a little bit too cheeky because you want to try and advertise yourself as a creator of selling content, but those platforms are very against sex workers, which of selling content, but those platforms are very like against sex workers, which is pretty shit.

Speaker 2:

Like especially now Twitter is very like you get like incarcerated, but like you just get just cancelled. Basically, oh, for real On Twitter.

Speaker 2:

No not like, just like, not shadow ban, but like it's just like your posts, like they don't go through like the normal regulation of like the through people's feeds, like your posts aren't getting as much like views or likes because, like it just it's becoming a bit more monitored, which is unfortunate. But yeah, with that I mean I might I don't have that many fans, but like it was more like to help my partner out because there's a lack of men in Perth making content and if they do or have made content, they've just been cancelled for being transphobic or just being an asshole or just unprofessional. There's a handful that are very good, like in Australia, but like there's just not many men, there's a lot more women doing it compared to men. So like me doing it now, like it's very niche for me and it's just there to help out.

Speaker 2:

Obviously Sky and then whether we collab with other people, like that's something we want to try and do in the future, but like it's not a rush thing at the moment. I'm sort of just more focusing on just more entertainer based and just trying to like do more things on TikTok and Instagram and just be a bit more prompting that way. And then the OnlyFans thing is there Like, if you're like well, if you want to see more of me like, it is there Like. I don't advertise it too heavily on those websites because you just get canned.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so if people want to like book you for a party, so say what avenue should they take?

Speaker 2:

I feel like just like a quick DM, like on my Instagram or like I will be, what do you call it? I've made touch bases with Hollywood Entertainment, so like you go on their website. I've made touch bases with Hollywood Entertainment, so like you go on their website. I've got some photos taken recently so they'll be getting edited and chucked onto their website so like just get booked for like topless waitering, like I feel like that's what I feel comfortable doing at the moment, and then like when, like, I feel a bit more like okay, I've got more routine, I can like make more characters.

Speaker 2:

I'll do more like show sort of base things, like okay, because a lot of the guys like they might do like Fireman or SWAT or like things like that, I feel like for me, I'd want to do like you know, like Ghostface or like something dark. Yeah, like something dark romance. Like Sky keeps telling me to read Haunting Adeline and base my character off that, so I'm like I need to read the book to sort of create the character.

Speaker 3:

Michael Myers, because that's what I was going to dress up at the sexy Halloween party we're going to go to. I was going to dress as full Michael Myers Done Heck, yeah, yeah, see, you could do that, that'd be cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was going to be my next question. Like what is in your vision, like where are you going with this? Because a lot of guys are going that fireman route, that sexy SWAT guy, the army dude, like, you've definitely got that ability to transcend past that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So like I don't want to be just like stock standard, like mask fucking, like routine of everyone, just like you know uses pony for everything and like. I feel like this is really overplayed. It has been since the 1990s right, yeah, I feel like there's a lot more like I guess like sexy metal that you can use Like Sleep Token is a perfect example.

Speaker 2:

Like it's very, very hard hitting for like certain moves you could do and you can just like take samples from like each different song and like make it into like one big show.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm a metal fan and I just keep thinking Cradle of Filth amphetamine. I'll be like, ooh, that could be like a good dance.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because, like a lot of the girls, like when they do their like a few of the burlesque shows they've gone to, like Nova Mystique, for example, like she will use a lot of goth sort of music, so it's like very like Wednesday Addams sort of vibes, like it's stunning to watch, like it's stunning to watch, like it's mesmerizing, and then, like a few of the other girls, like Vixen Flow, use like this like German, like pop, like sort of music, and then like and it goes into this like dark sort of like dark techno sort of thing, and it's just like, it just works. I want to be like these girls, like girls smash it, like like fuck pony, yeah and that's that creativity that you were talking about.

Speaker 1:

Right, because like it's there, and when you see these super highly choreographed routines and they are just like fucking nailing them, and you can see how much has gone into like the music selection, the choreography, the outfit selection, you know, and then you see how powerful that comes across on stage. It literally is just a fucking amazing performance routine and some people out there are just like pulling out wild like Cirque du Soleil, shit as well, you know yeah like, for example, as in men, like Matthew Pope, like he's incredible. He's fucking nuts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would love to be able to be at that point one day, like however far I go in this industry, but like that's like definitely a goal, like I would love to be able to do what that man does. Like it's incredible.

Speaker 1:

Do you look at him and do you like study his routines and stuff like that?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I'd be not even close to be able to do what he does.

Speaker 2:

I look at his aerials and I'm like, oh, I can barely do a bloody handstand push-up, let alone that. So it's definitely something I need to work on as in like fitness-wise, and then I'd love to be able to do my pole classes, like with a few of Sky's friends and then like even like more like gymnastic workshops, and then sort of like combine that with, I guess, like stripper moves, yeah, and then do that for my stage stuff Like my first show. Like within three minutes I was like I want to do something like cool that like really gets the crowd going. So what I did was like fuck, I want to do something like cool that like really gets the crowd going. So what I did was like I laid the woman down and then I was like you trust me.

Speaker 3:

And she's like, yeah, you do.

Speaker 2:

So I laid her down and then like moved her legs like open, so like when I would fall, like I had some of my legs to go to. So like what I did was like I had some of my legs to go to. So like what I did was like I went to where her head was. I went into a headstand and so like our heads were like this, and then I was like you ready? She's like I think so. And then like I come like push up and then come down into a dolphin dive, oh shit.

Speaker 2:

Because, that looked really good and I like nailed it and the crowd loved it. I'm like yes.

Speaker 3:

And you had to go and thank God it worked yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was like I was really freaking out for her to be like close her legs and then my legs like land on hers and I'm like fuck. I was like just don't move your legs, please Trust me. Whatever you do do not move. But she didn't, which was good. And then, oh, it's fucking so cool.

Speaker 1:

The craziest thing I've ever seen in a strip club was opening night, and I think it was called Exotica before it was called Penthouse. So basically I that's how old he is.

Speaker 1:

That's how old I am right. I was dating this girl. The club had just gone through like this whole new refurb, and the painter just lost his shit three days before opening night and was just like no, I'm done with this. So the owner gave me a call. He's like hey, jay, can you come and paint my property? So me and my dad got in there and absolutely smashed this place out for the opening night. And then opening night, we're obviously there and the stripper gets on stage and she's dancing away. She does this slut drop. And then next thing you ask just go straight through the plaster. It's all this black wall and it was just like plaster. It was just like this big thing. She turned around and it's just like this halo of like plaster dust all around the backside. It was just like what the fuck? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow, my phone was buzzing about 10 seconds later. It's like the onus, you need to get this on tomorrow morning. Sort it out. I need this back on stage for tomorrow morning. So yeah, hectic.

Speaker 3:

Wow, Talking about crazy. What's one of the craziest things you've been asked to do? Wow.

Speaker 2:

Talking about crazy, what are the craziest things you've been asked to do? I haven't really been asked anything too crazy. I mean through my socials. I remember I think someone was like oh, how much for me to suck your cock. I was like I showed this guy. I was like what do you reckon? He was like, say, two grand. I was just joking, I was like two, haha. And then it's like no reply.

Speaker 1:

Or someone was like I would've been fucked if he had a bit turned around and said I'll give you three.

Speaker 2:

No, it was funny, I just like yeah some things that you just like, I just laugh at it, like, like it was like one, like just like you get some things that you're just like, I just laugh at it, like it was like. One was like I want to worship your feet, like I want to like can you send me photos of your feet. And then he replied to my story and I was, like, made my boots like this, like at the club, and he's like I want to smell those boots after a night of you working.

Speaker 3:

I hate feet.

Speaker 2:

So I'm just sitting here trying not to regurgitate and then, like sometimes, like on OF, like I do write on my like bio. I'm, like you know, unsolicited dick pics aren't welcome here.

Speaker 3:

Like I've had a few of those.

Speaker 2:

Or like someone's like spreading their arsehole cheeks going like ready for Axl Adams. I'm like bro, like fuck off.

Speaker 3:

I don't need a full moon tonight.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate it. But like I don't like the unsolicited stuff. Like if it was like mid-conversation, like dirty talking, like obviously for pay and shit and someone drops that in, I'll play with it and like sort of like oh yeah, like that's so hot. But when it's just like someone's just subscribed and they just send a picture of their ass or their cock, I'm just like, okay, that's cool.

Speaker 1:

Appreciate that. In other words, don't fucking do it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, don't.

Speaker 1:

Don't send unsolicited whatever. Just go follow. Just don't send like an or whatever, just go, follow.

Speaker 3:

Just don't send like an or DM for a private party.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, even like I have put in my bio, I'm like, if you do want to send you a wheelie, I'll do a cock rating for like $5 or something.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

That's a clever idea. Now, if only you could just do that as like an instant monetization, where it's like, as soon as a dick pic comes through, like it instantly charges their credit card five bucks. Fuck, you'd be loaded, it'd be sick.

Speaker 2:

It's a shame because, like, how, like OnlyFans is like, it's not an app, you've got to use it on your like, google or like.

Speaker 3:

Chrome or Safari.

Speaker 2:

I'm surprised it's not an like you got to be on it like all the time, to be like, okay, someone's messaged me. Like the only time I get notifications is like through my Gmail going oh, someone subscribed and.

Speaker 2:

I'll be like all right, and then I'll go check and then they'll be like send some messages like oh, do what videos you have? Like oh, it's PPV, like pay-per-view. They're like you know, a minute video would be like $5 or like I've got one on there. That's like a lot more, I guess, me using like toys, so that's a lot of anal scenes for them. So like it's like I think 16 minutes or eight minutes or something and I was like $16, I felt like that's fair, yeah, and everyone that I have sent that to that has bought it. They're like that's fucking hot.

Speaker 3:

I'm like thanks bro you're like I should have upped the price, but damn it pay, pay, pay.

Speaker 2:

I came so hard, that's so hot. I'm like, oh, thanks man like sometimes you just don't know what to say. I'm just like well like. I'm just like well, like. Obviously there's a pot for every lead and I'm making someone happy.

Speaker 1:

That's the main thing, fucking right right, like if you can think of it, somebody's into it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you know, making it All right, awesome. Thanks so much. What's next for you, though? What's next, what's your big thing? What do?

Speaker 2:

you want to do I feel like for me, I want to try and do like a stage show with like another person. So like I want to do a show with Sky. Yeah, I was meant to do one with her last night but like I wasn't feeling it and I didn't say yes to it because, like I wasn't sure, with like my other job, if I was going to line up with the time off. So I was like, oh, maybe next, as if event. She's like okay, and then like the host was like I'm really devastated, like he didn't want to do it. I was like, no, I'll do it next one, I promise. So like I feel like, once we know the theme, I definitely want to do a show with her next month. I feel like that would be on the cards if I've got time off and then I reckon that would be cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you'll have to swing us an invite to that one, because I think that would be a good night out. I reckon, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Connie's.

Speaker 3:

Connie's.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Connie's is great now. It used to be a hole Now it's great.

Speaker 2:

I didn't realise it had been around for 50 years, oh man.

Speaker 3:

Jordan would.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember. Back in the day, no. Back in the day, no.

Speaker 1:

Back in the day, though, like you'd walk in there and you'd literally get a disease from the floor. It was fucking horrible. Now it's like it's a real nice space, so yeah.

Speaker 3:

Before we end it, though, can I ask a question? Sure, the windmill, can you only go one way or two? I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I Googled a few times, but most men can only go one way. Oh, that kind of went well, yeah, I have to try it when I go home in the shower.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2:

Swinging it in I feel like clockwise I can get it. I don't know. I feel like I can go both ways.

Speaker 1:

That's it. That's your next five hours. That's your future right now.

Speaker 3:

That's my endeavors after this podcast. Literally, I've researched it and most guys I forget.

Speaker 1:

The percentage can only go one way. Now, that is one of those philosophical questions that I think is perfect to end this pod on.

Speaker 3:

For any guy listening.

Speaker 1:

I just want to know can it only go clockwise, can it only go counterclockwise? Or are you that rare human being?

Speaker 3:

that can go both.

Speaker 1:

Can it be a switch windmiller?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, switch windmiller Switch windmiller. Ask that question at a glass table at 3 am.

Speaker 1:

Yes, or you can just pay Axel Lueber go on OnlyFans and show you himself.

Speaker 2:

I'll show you how to do it.

Speaker 3:

I'll pop his link in my bio, done.

Speaker 1:

Done. Axl mate, you've been phenomenal. Thank you so much. Anytime that you and Sky want to come back on the pod, you're most welcome here.

Speaker 2:

I'd love to Thank you for having us, or having myself, sorry.

Speaker 1:

It's been amazing.

Speaker 3:

Thanks so much Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Chat soon. Bye.

Speaker 1:

Bye Woo, that was one hell of a ride. Big thanks to Axel Adams for giving us a backstage pass into the world of male stripping only fans hustle and what it really takes to entertain with ethics boundaries and a killer body to roll. If today's episode turned you on, taught you something new or just made you rethink that time you got handsy at a hen's night, do us a solid and subscribe rate and share the Supersex Gospel. And hey, if you want more unfiltered conversations about kink, connection and consent, come hang with us on Instagram and YouTube. Just search Supersex Podcast or find me, jordan Walker, at jordanwalkerrsacom. Until next time, stay curious, stay respectful and, for the love of all things, glitter, tip your dancers.

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