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Super Sex
This is an 18+ podcast!
Welcome to Supersex—the podcast where you get to dive into all things sex and relationships without it ever getting boring!
Ever wondered how talking about sex could actually be fun? Well, here’s where you find out. We’ve got a queer guy and a straight dude ready to dish out the tea, share the cringey moments, and keep it as real (and hilarious) as it gets.
Every episode is packed with the good stuff—the latest research, wild stories, and a ton of laughs, so you get to learn about sex and relationships without feeling like you're in a classroom.
Curious about what’s new in sexual health? Need advice on navigating the dating jungle? Or maybe you just wanna hear about someone else’s relationship fails to feel better about your own? We got you!
From first dates to kink, we're breaking down the science and making it all relatable to you so you can implement the good stuff into your sex life and get rid of the bad.
Expect personal stories, guest experts, and, of course, a bunch of jokes. Get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe even rethink a few things about love and intimacy.
So tune in, because you deserve to have fun while figuring out this whole sex and relationship thing!
Super Sex
Episode 54: Carry-On Vibrators and Luxury Lube: Sex Toy Travel Tips with Nikki Kelly
Ever wondered what TSA thinks when they see that mysterious vibration coming from your carry-on? In this gleefully unfiltered episode, we're joined by Nikki Kelly – the brilliantly bold virgin sex educator who turns conversations about adult toys into both educational gold and comedic relief.
We dive deep into the world of travel-friendly intimate accessories, exploring everything from lipstick vibrators and discreet designs to the unexpected importance of cornstarch in toy maintenance. Nikki shares expert insights on selecting products that won't cause airport embarrassment while still delivering premium experiences when you reach your destination.
Beyond the practical travel advice, our conversation explores fascinating territory: the luxury market's high-end offerings, the surprising lack of medical research around vulva health, and the technological innovations creating more inclusive products for diverse bodies. We examine the engineering behind hands-free couples toys, revealing how patent battles between companies directly impact user experience in ways most consumers never consider.
The episode balances technical knowledge with laugh-out-loud moments, including Tash's professional nursing perspective on emergency room visits gone wrong and John's unexpected gift from his father-in-law. Whether you're planning your next vacation or simply curious about how the intimate accessories market continues to evolve, this episode delivers equal parts practical wisdom and entertaining conversation.
Listen for insider knowledge that will forever change how you pack your suitcase and potentially how you think about intimate wellness during travel. Just remember to engage that travel lock before sending your luggage through the scanner!
All right, friends, buckle up.
Speaker 2:Today's episode is part travel show, part sex toy unboxing and a whole lot of curious conversation. I'm joined by the brilliantly bold Nikki Kelly, known across the internet as the virgin sex educator. She's a woman who can talk about butt plugs, pussy pumps and hands-free couples play, all while sipping a strange soda concoction and keeping a straight face. Now we're going to be talking travel vibes and toys, the discreet, the delightful and the downright daring. So whether you're flying solo or riding shotgun, this one's going to stretch your imagination in all the best ways. Let's go.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Super Sex, the podcast that dives into sex, relationships and absolutely everything in between. We're stripping away shame, turning up the truth and keeping it smart, playful and unapologetically real. So buckle up, because the combos are deep, the topics are juicy and the safe word is always more.
Speaker 2:Let's get into it. All right guys back on the pod today. We got her back because her first two episodes were absolutely awesome Nikki Kelly.
Speaker 3:How are you mate you good, I'm so great Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. You're welcome, tash Wilson. As always, yes, lovely.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:How are you?
Speaker 4:Good, good. That's just one answered question.
Speaker 1:Fucking hard working with you, mate.
Speaker 2:What do you think about domesticated kink in sub-Saharan Africa? Good?
Speaker 4:Is that two thumbs up? I see, maybe I've never been, but okay, god.
Speaker 2:You're a couple of testicles short of a guy with that communication style. Well done.
Speaker 4:I think I know why I'm single now Good. Good, you look nice, now Good. Good you look nice today.
Speaker 2:Good, I only have two words good and not good. That's three, that's three.
Speaker 4:Shut up and didn't pass second grade maths I was going to say how did you get to uni?
Speaker 2:I didn't do maths, so I can tell you that much.
Speaker 4:Don't worry, I don't do any of the readings, any lectures. Reading this I do, I'm joking, I think they do you're in trouble?
Speaker 2:oh, she's only gonna get 40 now, oh, no, love it. So we're doing a follow-up episode to our sex toys one, because there were so many things that we just never got into.
Speaker 4:And I've got money, you've got money.
Speaker 3:You're talking to the right gal, perfect. Let me tell you about all the high end.
Speaker 1:You want your notepad ready to go, let's do it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do. I have got suggestions for, you know those without money. But boy, do I have suggestions for those that actually have money, I have money.
Speaker 2:It's maybe like a little bit I got recommendations so if you want to get fucked, well, you gotta be rich. Is that what we're saying?
Speaker 3:I mean to be rich. Yeah, it helps a lot. Money helps everything you know that's not everything, guys you're right? No, it's not, but it does help it does help. It does help you can get really nice toys adult toys you know with money.
Speaker 2:I'm glad they said adult toys because I'm like all right okay, let's talk about this, because this is something I've wanted to know for a long time. You know how you've got those luxury markets in every fucking space, whether it's cars or clothes or whatever and on a day-to-day basis you get exposed to a certain variety of brands. Right like, let's say, we're talking about clothes for guys in perth, you can basically spend up to like maybe about five grand on a suit, but if you want to go even more, even higher than that, like you've got no chance because we just don't have it here in Perth.
Speaker 2:My question is like I've seen these vibrators for two 300 bucks. Is there like a super luxe, fucking diamond encrusted, super high-end thing out of Dubai that is retailing for like hundreds of thousands or thousands of dollars? The queen has it no, that's sector that you see in a hand. That's actually a butt plug it's not a sector okay.
Speaker 3:I now I feel bad. I wish I knew the answer to this question. I'm sure it's. Yes. I mean, I was just in a store the other day and they had this uh rider that it's basically a grinder rider but it has some different extensions for vaginal penetration or anal, depends on how you're using it and it was a couple of grand Um. It had a lot of different settings. I know, see, since I work more in just mainstream retail, I know you know the average buyer stuff. I'm sure there is and I would love to research it. I mean, that's coming up soon on my PhD.
Speaker 4:I love how we're like slipping in our PhDs and everything we're like oh.
Speaker 2:Every time I say PhD, my wife goes what pretty huge dick. And I'm like, no, I don't have that.
Speaker 4:That's why he's going to go for the doctorate.
Speaker 3:Make up for it.
Speaker 4:John was like I'm going to go cry now, Now.
Speaker 3:I'm really curious. Just wait, this is exactly what I'm going to look up. What about?
Speaker 4:John's dick size. No, oh no, sorry About a diamond encrusted like vibrator in Dubai.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm curious about. No, sorry.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I said Dubai Like. I mean, women don't have sex over in Dubai, do they?
Speaker 4:I think everyone does Ouch.
Speaker 3:Of course they do, I'm just talking about natural oppression that happens in the Middle East. It's just like saying girls don't have sex in Utah.
Speaker 1:No exactly, I'm like, coming from a very strict religious background, fucking banger all over soda shops apparently no see, that's the thing is.
Speaker 3:people just assume religious people are non-sexual. That's not true. All right, it probably would be found in Dubai.
Speaker 2:Talking about Dubai, let's talk travel vibes.
Speaker 4:Let's get on to that, okay. Yes, because I need to know this. I'm traveling on tuesday. I need to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, before we get on to that, though, I want to know are there toys out there that have settings where you can completely shut them off so that when you get your suitcase back into your house it's not vibrating in your suitcase? Yes, that's actually there's a story behind this which I can't divulge, but yes talking personal experience no, not, not, not at all, no, please put your devices on flat mode no, that's actually.
Speaker 3:I have some notes here about, specifically, travel vibrators, travel toys, anything and one of my number one tips is if you are truly going to be using this for travel, especially a longer flight or whatever it is, get something with a travel lock.
Speaker 3:So a lot of times you can get products with settings where you either double click something or you hold down the power at the same time as the plus button or something, and it will turn off the power button and usually it'll buzz once to indicate that the travel locks on, and then you have to, of course, unlock it. But that can be very helpful when you're sending it through TSA when you're on the plane when you get home.
Speaker 4:I have another solution. Just go to the lounge and finish the battery.
Speaker 2:Oh, but the lounge and finish the battery. What do you mean? Like in the business lounge, Like Qantas?
Speaker 1:fucking flight lounge. So that's what you're so excited about traveling for.
Speaker 2:You're just going to go and get yourself off in front of a whole heap of businessmen.
Speaker 4:No, in the middle of the business lounge there's showers oh okay, let's see where I went with that. It's just gone straight out to expeditioners. You're like no, not that, no, not that.
Speaker 1:But maybe that I don't know.
Speaker 3:Although if you are into that, panty vibrators. I don't know what happens in the business lounge.
Speaker 4:I only go to the other lounges that aren't the business end.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the regular ones.
Speaker 2:We all know that business people are kinky, let's be fair.
Speaker 1:Let's be fair, All right. So what handy vibrators?
Speaker 3:Oh, no, sorry, panty vibrators, panty. So these are the ones that magnetize to your panties and they can be, controlled with a remote within. I think we talked about this last time. It's like 25 feet. I don't know what that is in meters or whatever, but those can be fun for a flight. If you're into voyeurism, exhibitionism, like anything like that, I'm just like, and you want to do more public play, right, like someone can be wearing, uh, something that has a remote, because it can work on a flight.
Speaker 2:All I'm thinking is like please turn off your electronics. And it's like Air India has gone down because some fuck has had their panty vibrator on and it's interfered with the electronics because you know how you can get the aisles where it's got the two seats, which you'll be fine at, I think.
Speaker 4:But imagine if you're like in the middle of the four seats and you're just like you got this random next to you and you're like, don't know, guys, I'm next to the random, you're so close talking about, about that I once I was going to say oh my God, here we go.
Speaker 2:I once got on a flight from Bangkok to Zurich and I was stuck in between a madam from Amsterdam who was fascinating and this massive fat dude in a Hawaiian shirt. I was sandwiched and it was probably one of the most surreal 15 hours of my entire life.
Speaker 1:Different detail, but yeah, all right, let's get back onto travel vibes yes, all right well what are we recommending?
Speaker 2:what are we not recommending?
Speaker 4:yes.
Speaker 3:Let me get my notepad out. Number one, not recommending anything with batteries, because you mean like AA's, yeah, AA. Aaa, anything bigger than that, yeah, like a car battery.
Speaker 2:One of the bigger ones that have. Like the nine volters.
Speaker 3:Yes, those ones, yeah, yeah, just nothing with a battery. Don't do that, number one, it's going to get flagged. Yeah, are like the nine voltos. Yes, those ones. Yeah, yeah, just nothing. Nothing with a battery. Don't, don't do that, um, number one, it's gonna get flagged. Yeah, um, so they're gonna be taking that out of your bag, if especially we're talking carry-on. Um, yeah, don't, don't do that, just get it recharged. Just get a rechargeable one with the usb port.
Speaker 3:You know, um, also some vibrators, depending on where you're going. Something to keep in mind is you can have a adapter, so you know a different plug adapter, right, but depending on the voltage of the vibrator itself, just make sure that you check that you don't need a converter because, for example, the american electricity that you know I'm used to, because, for example, the American electricity that you know I'm used to back home, that's the reason you can't bring flat irons, curling irons, blow dryers. Even if I had the correct plug adapter, I don't have the converter for the voltage difference. So you don't want to kill your vibrator, in case it is a significant difference, want to kill your vibrator in case it is a significant difference. You can plug it in and then just kill it, um with too much voltage. So that's something to keep in mind where you're purchasing these items versus where you're going um. Look up the voltage, um, because sometimes you just having an adapter isn't enough and you could burn it. So that's something to keep in mind.
Speaker 2:There's nothing worse than a melted vibrator.
Speaker 3:Oh, that would be awful. That would be awful. Imagine running into a hotel like 20 minutes. I know Can you imagine.
Speaker 4:So what caught on fire? A vibrator.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, the insurance claim on that.
Speaker 2:So why are you charging me an extra 500 bucks for my room? Well, we had to scrape the vibrator off the bedside table. I mean, it was terrible.
Speaker 4:Just get travel insurance and make sure your vibrator is insured.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine that I don't want travel insurance for me as a person? I just want it because of my vibrator.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Because if it blows up a hotel, because it starts to like burn, so you know things people need to think about.
Speaker 3:So, no batteries. Make sure it has a travel lock on it. It can just be really helpful and convenient have it. Have a full charge before you go, just in case for the converter thing. You can get vibrators that look like other things, which can be really helpful if you're doing especially carry-on luggage. So there's a lot of. I will just say just out the front. There's a lot more female um products that are like this. It's really difficult to find male travel friendly, but I do have some.
Speaker 3:But as far as the female friendly stuff, there are tons that look like lipstick. Oh my goodness, they literally look like it thing looks exactly like a lipstick tube. Um, you could do like the we vibe tango. Um, usually these lipstick ones you'll want to check if you want the plastic or if you want the silicone tip. A lot of them do have a plastic tip and just a silicone um bottom to them. So just make sure that you know what you like. Um, you could do a shell vibes. They have a lipstick mini vibrator kit so they have different heads that go on it that have texture, uh, tons of everything. So that can be a good middle ground if you know you're having like a man and a woman go together. Then you could get the lipstick vibe that has multiple heads that could potentially be used for both people, not just you know her.
Speaker 2:That's interesting.
Speaker 4:You could also do a mini wand. I'm questioning everybody's lipstick now, yeah.
Speaker 3:So there's this really cool one. If you're afraid of them taking it out of your luggage, if you've had that happen before there's one called the Pen Pal by Evolved, and it is metal, which is awesome because then you can use silicone lube on it. It's pretty quiet and it has a loop at the top so you can just string it through your keys. Um, and it literally does not look like a vibrator. It does not look like one. It's so small, so thin, really powerful, has five settings and it just looks like kind of a self-defense tool that you know women have on their keys, like, or it like no one would question it. It just looks like a, it looks like a pen that you just have attached to your keys so you could just loop it through.
Speaker 4:These cash look like everyone's keys when they go through, and it's rechargeable too.
Speaker 3:It's awesome and it's no bigger than like my finger. I'll show you a picture of it after. It's awesome, so that one's really cool. You could do, if you like, pressure mini wands. And then this is where, again, you can involve both people, because you could do head extenders on wands. That's where wands really have their market is. You don't have to buy a new product every time you want it to do something new. You have the power that you like, the size that you like, you know, um, so in this case it'd be the travel size, and then you would get head extenders that can turn it into a stroker or turn it into something that can be used internally, and you just pop the heads onto the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then it becomes a really versatile toy and it doesn't take up a ton of room. You don't have to have a ton of stuff, a lot of different cords, tons of different products. That one's a really great one, especially if you want it to be versatile for both people. You also have some other just things to think about. Is any? Finger vibes are always good, small, discreet, easy to pack. Um, those are the ones that slip onto your finger yeah, can be used um the.
Speaker 3:If you are a big womanizer fan, they do have the womanizer liberty. That's quite small. Um satisfier also has one that looks like a lipstick tube but it is an air pulse. But just keep in mind that uh satisfiers air pulse is a lot uh softer than air pulse. So if you like it really intense, just know that that's gonna be different yeah um, you can do.
Speaker 3:oh, here's a. Here a general tip. Uh, always make sure that you have an antibacterial bag if you're ever taking a product, because, especially if you're doing these long flights, right, and you're packing it in, say, a Ziploc bag or something like that, that is just yeah. It's going to be awful for bacteria, fungi, anything. Yeah, you do that and it doesn't really matter once it's in those microfibers like, and you, you know you wash it once you get to your destination.
Speaker 3:nah that can still throw that mother effer away exactly, exactly, or put a condom on it, like that can be something that's just a good practice you know, especially, please, everybody, when you buy a product, wash it. Wash it first, please, and don't just use hand soap, don't use bath soap. Use a toy cleaner because again, the especially if you have a scented soap, it's your, just your scented bath soap that can get in the microfibers, it can give you bacterial vaginosis, it can give you?
Speaker 4:thank you for saying that I was watching. You like what are you an infection? Thank you for saying that I was watching and you're like what are you going to say?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it can absolutely do that. It can give you. I was just reading some blogs. I have a lot of toy reviewers that I read their stuff and learn about new products and stuff, and one of them, oh poor thing, got terrible like cysts and this infection and a few years back and it was just awful for her. So now she of course, does everything with condoms um, even you know she washes it and everything, but she still only uses it with condoms because it just really destroyed her vulva.
Speaker 3:I mean, it just was this massive infection. She had to go get things cut off like surgically. It was really bad. See, I had a. I had an interview this morning. I thought you're gonna say you had a little cyst. It was this massive infection. She had to go get things cut off like surgically. It was really bad.
Speaker 2:See, I had an interview this morning with Hanky's toys.
Speaker 4:I thought you were going to say you had a little sister in your vulva. I had a sister. Yeah, he's in dildos as well.
Speaker 1:It was terrible.
Speaker 2:No, but I had an interview with Hanky's this morning and one of the really sort of interesting things that Mike was talking about was that in the states, although they've got really rigorous safety protocols around silicon use, it doesn't actually technically apply to the sex toy trade, so there's no way to know that whatever toy that you are using is a hundred percent body safe body safe, yeah, which is fucking mind blowing and like you've got your reputable companies, you know and you know that they're going to be giving you the good stuff.
Speaker 2:But when it comes to like these vibrators and stuff like, I suppose where I'm getting at is dildos 100% body safe silicon dildo you can throw in a pot of water and you can boil that motherfucker for five hours and it's not going to melt, but you're going to get all of that bacteria off because there's no pores in it. But with these vibrators you can't do that right, do you know?
Speaker 4:yeah, please don't buy your vibrators people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but no, this is such a good point and it's something that a lot of people you know.
Speaker 4:Oh, I don't want to spend you know, an extra 15 or something on and get that free shipping. Well, yeah, get that toy cleaner like genuinely.
Speaker 3:It does make a difference because these toy cleaners I recommend foam over spray because you can see it, so you tend to use less, so it goes a little bit further. But also it has with the sprays against you can miss spots or, depending on the type of material that you're spraying, it's just foam, just go foam, just do foam.
Speaker 2:The other thing I've noticed with people who do that is quite often they'll get the spray, they'll spray a couple of sprays on and then they'll get their hands and rub the spray over the toy, right, but they haven't washed their hands, so they're literally just reintroducing extra bacteria straight onto the toy that they've just tried to clean, right, like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly, and you know it can be fine up until it's not fine and it can do some real damage. Not cleaning these products properly and not taking the extra time to make sure your hands are washed first and you're using antibacterial cleaner cleaner because you need to remember that lube is. You know these cleaners are designed to take off. Lube your regular, like dawn dish soap or something, although it can, you know, clean a greasy duck, as the commercial shows, like, yes, it can take it off, but now you're adding something new to those microfibers, to those pores in there, and that's not what you want. You want these to be very, very clean and safe for your body, as safe as you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the crazy thing is as well is that a lot of guys will buy a toy for their partner, for their female partner.
Speaker 4:Without asking what they like. Yep.
Speaker 2:Without asking what they like, but the intent there is to give them a more pleasurable experience so that they will do it more often, right? Yeah, so really they're trying to get to that end goal of her pleasure and more often, yeah, but if they're not taking into account that safety measure or if they're half-assing it with the toys that they're getting, they're actually putting themselves at risk, or their partners at risk of developing BV which could potentially put them out of action for weeks or months.
Speaker 4:And they keep going between each other because he doesn't get treated, because he has no symptoms. It's like pew pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
Speaker 2:Guys, don't get STIs. Didn't you know that?
Speaker 4:No, I know, they're a magic creature.
Speaker 3:Must be nice Fucking weird, but magic.
Speaker 3:All right, must be nice, fucking weird. But magic, all right. Some other just you know, fun travel things that you can have. Um, oh, sorry, one more thing on the bags. Uh, you can get bags that are lint free as well. Um, so, make sure that it's a breathable bag, that it's antibacterial, that's designed for products, because a lot of times they'll have a lining. The BioShield 75 lining is really good. It inhibits the growth of bacteria. There's a couple other linings that are good, but you can get some that are lint-free. Now, if you do have a product that has a lot of lint on it, here's just a little pro tip for you Once you wash it and it's completely, completely dry, do not do it.
Speaker 3:While it's wet, you can just put a little cornstarch on it, rub it around brand new. Yeah, a lot, yeah, a lot of the male products. Um, when you take them out of the package, you know how they have that white dust on it that's cornstarch wow mind is fucking blown yeah and you can buy the powder and stuff at stores. But if you look at the ingredients, it's just cornstarch.
Speaker 2:You can get it for a dollar fifty exactly, exactly you've got to wash that off right before yeah, don't go baking a cake no, but yeah.
Speaker 3:So wash it completely, have it dry, especially, you know, if it has the nooks and crannies that have the lint on it then, just, uh, rub it really good with some cornstarch and then just rewash it and it should be good to go. It just makes it kind of fresh.
Speaker 4:We're both like sitting here with our mouth and like fucking cornstarch I just love that.
Speaker 2:The fact that the sex toy industry here in australia is like five billion or something. In the States it's probably like $16 trillion or fuck knows, and all you're getting is corn. But they boil it all down to yeah, let's just use some cornstarch to sort out toys.
Speaker 4:Hey, that's cornstarch manufacturers. Start doing your biz.
Speaker 3:Little tricks of the trade for you. You can also get uh, travel blankets. So the liberator, fascinator, I think, is what it's called. It's the travel throw blanket. These are really nice, especially if you have um stimulation issues. You know a lot of people with adhd.
Speaker 3:You just even just a texture of a towel or something can be really overstimulating when you're traveling and you're going to a new place that doesn't have the towels that you specifically love and use, um, or you bring your own, but then you don't have a way to wash it. Right, you're going to use that for a shower you don't necessarily want it to be for sexual intimacy and get it dirty in that way. Um, something lightweight, super great, a liberator blanket. Um, they have a travel throw.
Speaker 2:That's really nice. See, I'd love to say splash blankets, but those things are so fucking heavy.
Speaker 3:These ones are lightweight. Yeah, some of them can be like the really heavy, thick ones. It's almost like they're weighted.
Speaker 4:I love my weighted blanket.
Speaker 1:See, I know there's a lot going on there.
Speaker 4:There is my mind's just ticking. I'm just like wow, um, you all know what's on tasha's carry on or check-in awaitedly.
Speaker 3:They're like oh, they're heaving your bag up no, the light one now, yeah that's right now, you know. Uh, last things that I would recommend are uh, if you want to, just, you know, spice things up if you're going for, you know, a week-long honeymoon type trip, just something to connect with each other. I mean, of course, hit up a store once you're there.
Speaker 4:But isn't it to get away from each other? So that was the memo.
Speaker 3:A memo you can do travel size or trial size. Uh packets of different enhancers, so uh creams, and um they have. They have a lot of different sizes. Um, you know, a lot of times they'll come in bottles or something like that. If like a gel or a cream that you can put on your nipples or on your clitoris, or on the tip of your penis.
Speaker 4:I've've tried the little ones Numbing sprays things like that A lot of times.
Speaker 3:they'll have trial sizes that you can purchase that are great for travel because you can just I give them as gifts for anybody that's getting married like their honeymoon. There's tons of stuff I do a whole sex basket when anybody I know gets married.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, that's amazing, Are you going to? But we are now.
Speaker 3:I said oh, I have a whole thing on my link tree of what I put.
Speaker 4:Whatever you don't want, just give them to me.
Speaker 2:Sure Cool.
Speaker 3:But also your wife has to take a pic as well and then give them to me. But dice as well, you know, if you're just wanting to play games and stuff sex dice is always a good easy.
Speaker 4:It's like those cards too. That are like you know, but they're the sex cards yeah, you can even get those um little games on like apps now as well which are really cool.
Speaker 2:I suppose I'll add into this um, two things check out the country that you're going to, because you can get fucked over if you take a sex toy into some places.
Speaker 3:True.
Speaker 2:Like you are going to get hammered, like, if you go anywhere in like the Middle East or some of those real conservative countries in Africa as well, like they're going to haul your ass straight up. So there is that, I suppose. And then the other thing that Misch mischief mayhem brought up the other day was to put your toys. If you are like going with like the like real out there sort of toys, put them on top so that as soon as they open their luggage, they go oh shit, okay, yeah, I'll just close it right.
Speaker 3:So absolutely, yeah, I thought that was a really tip, but make sure it's in one of the antibacterial bags not Ziploc Absolutely, or have it outside of the bag, sitting on the bag you know, for that TSA check, and then you put it in once you're through.
Speaker 1:They must say some weird shit, so that way they don't have to open it, Just have it on top, ready to go and then you put it in the bag.
Speaker 4:For once, the baggage is actually closed.
Speaker 3:That can be they must say some weird shit.
Speaker 4:I reckon oh, I'm sure, oh yeah I'd love to do that job really just. I love people watching, so even just looking at their luggage would just be amazing I would hate that job oh, I'd hate that job, you.
Speaker 3:For men, it is unfortunate that there's not as many travel-friendly because, man, the products are so large. I mean, of course, if you're doing manual, there's a lot more options, but if you want something that's electric in some way that vibrates, they're just massive and it's so heavy, so heavy. Yeah, it adds too much weight, too much, so they're not very travel friendly. But I did write down a few. You know manual strokers, like the solo mini bubble, um, you could do the hot octopus pulse duo. That one is electric, but that one's a little bit smaller and it can work for two people, um, but it's open-ended, has the vibrating button on it.
Speaker 2:People, um, but it's open-ended, has the vibrating button on it that one's a little bit easier and it looks sleek as well, it doesn't?
Speaker 3:I love it's not some fleshlight that's skin colored, that you know. You may potentially be embarrassed if that was opened up. It doesn't look like anything in particular you know someone could look at it and not know what it's actually used for. Um so oh, a masturbation glove is also something that could be very travel-friendly.
Speaker 2:Never heard of this. Is that what Michael Jackson wore?
Speaker 4:Oh, that explains it and that's why there's always one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was his dominant hand.
Speaker 1:See, that might have been the one that might have been the toy that we were talking about at the start. Wasn't that made out of diamonds? Yes, there.
Speaker 3:Million toy that we were talking about at the start? Wasn't that made out of diamonds? Yes, there, million dollar masturbation gloves. No one picked it. Research done, yeah, done, yeah. Masturbation gloves yeah, you should look these up. Um, they have tons of textures all over them and then sometimes they'll have in between, um, it's usually, I believe, the pinky and the ring finger. They'll have a kind of enclosed, so it goes through kind of like a vaginal canal.
Speaker 4:Oh, like a web.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a web. Yes, that's a good.
Speaker 4:Webbed fingers.
Speaker 3:Webbed finger but with a hole so you can kind of grip and then you have the rest of your hand on the shaft at the same time.
Speaker 2:Is that why ducks have webbed feet?
Speaker 3:Do they?
Speaker 4:have little holes in them oh my gosh, what they're just getting themselves out.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I don't know whether this is thinking out loud, but yeah, those can be nice because they're flat, easy to pack doesn't take a lot of room but could potentially be versatile with the travel that's fascinating.
Speaker 2:The other thing I think with guys' stuff is Tenga.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's my last one on my list.
Speaker 2:Tenga eggs are so good if you want something disposable, yeah. Yeah, so the Tenga products. My father-in-law actually brought me some back when they went to Japan, believe it or not. Best father-in-law, ever my in-laws are fucking awesome and I'm not just saying that because they're actually great people. But basically the Tenga products, let's say. I found that how can I put this politically correctly? They are not sized for a Western market all that well, yes. Okay, I was like why?
Speaker 4:What are you trying to say? And now I understand completely.
Speaker 2:They are not sized for the Western market. And yeah, the father-in-law brought a few things from Tenga back and he's like, oh, give it a go, give it a go, you know. And I'm just like, oh well, okay, gave one of them a go. And he's like, how was it? And I'm like, honestly, it was really constricting and really tight.
Speaker 3:Really tight.
Speaker 2:yeah, he's like yeah, so that's one of the things that I have found about tenga, which, yeah, you know it's it's going to meet the market for 100 people, 100 billion people yeah but for the few people that are on the larger side it's not gonna meet their market. So absolutely tenga is a great product, though, like the quality of their stuff is fucking great and I've got a pair of socks from them as well.
Speaker 4:Did you? Are they your cum socks? I want tank socks.
Speaker 2:I'm just thinking like American Pie right now. No, no, they're not the long ones.
Speaker 4:They're just little skinny ankle ones. I thought that was it for you.
Speaker 3:Oh, I need to get fun socks, little skinny ankle ones. I thought that was it for you. Oh, I need to get fun socks. You have your vulva socks.
Speaker 4:I do have my vulva socks, and I've also got penis socks, testicle socks, and then I've also got uterus socks and breast socks.
Speaker 3:I need to get vibrator socks. I once knew a girl who had breast-like socks what they were not really long and sort of came out to the sides.
Speaker 2:It was weird. It was shaped just like socks.
Speaker 3:Okay, just curious. Oh, breasts, like I get it. I get it Okay.
Speaker 4:Well, no, mine are Curious Interesting. That would be like the triangle breast look with a little bit of a hinge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they sort of like came down and like went out in 45-degree angle. Wow Like the nipples, no, like the whole boob. Oh, it was very strange.
Speaker 4:Everyone's got different boobs.
Speaker 2:That's true, that's true.
Speaker 4:We love. Now something fascinating I've been wanting to talk about is pussy pumps.
Speaker 2:She's like mm-hmm. I brought this up in a lecture and Tash was horrified with me that I should even suggest it.
Speaker 4:Was I?
Speaker 3:Yes, I forgot what I did yesterday, I remember I was there.
Speaker 2:I'm just not imagining that, I'm just imagining all these sorts of problems with it.
Speaker 4:That sounds like me Fair, but basically just not imagining that.
Speaker 2:I'm just imagining all these sorts of problems with it and I'm just but basically I've been on this chain of thought lately that there's so much literature out there at the moment around guys using penis pumps for penile health and the whole reason behind that is that it draws the blood with the interdirect erectile tissue. It's all coming back to me now helps it out like that, so long as you're using it properly, pumping to the 60 70 percent you know, and not overdoing it. Why aren't people doing the same with vulvas tush you?
Speaker 4:what did I say?
Speaker 2:you were just like. There's so many fucking problems with that and like you're just about you were about to launch into something, but then the guest lecturer sort of cut you off, which I was fascinated by.
Speaker 3:I forget, I literally forget, yeah what would you say to that though? Just right now, if someone said like, should I be using, if they came to you, as you know, a health professional, and I said, taj, should I be using like a vulva pump for my?
Speaker 4:vulva, because you only come to me if you've got an issue with your vulva and I'll be like fuck, no, please don't.
Speaker 2:That'll extend on the issue but wouldn't it make sense in recovery though, because, like, let's say, post-surgery?
Speaker 4:and once everything's healed I was gonna say how far post-surgery are we thinking, once everything's healed? But to draw the blood with into those tissues is going to help regeneration to a certain extent, right to a certain extent yes, so surely there's got to be some point where a pussy pump can be beneficial, but it depends why they had the surgery.
Speaker 2:Fair point.
Speaker 4:And if they're still like so, if it's cancer and they're still requiring treatment, you've got to be very careful in how you go about it, because also then you can have scar tissue which can cause more issues.
Speaker 2:See, but wouldn't extra blood flow break down scar tissue?
Speaker 4:It can, yes, but it can also cause issues as well. Yeah, like you've got your hematomas, which is your bruising, and stuff like that as well, that can come out.
Speaker 2:See, but all I'm sitting here thinking is like there needs to be some research on this it does, and this is what fucking sucks.
Speaker 4:Can we not talk about what my ADs are? Because I don't want people to steal my ADs for PhDs. That's why I'm looking at you going shut the fuck up. There's no literature around this. There's not. There's no literature around female. We've already discussed this. There's not a lot of literature around women's health in general to produce enough to know about this.
Speaker 2:See, but it needs to be something. But nonetheless, from a sex toy point of view, like we're still going down like fluorescent.
Speaker 4:What's her name, nightingale? I'm a nurse.
Speaker 1:Florence Nightingale, that one.
Speaker 4:Fluorescent Nightingale.
Speaker 2:She's the one that glows at the end of the street, not the one that's actually helping people in hospitals.
Speaker 4:I always forget her name. But like we are literally still living half the time in those back in the days, like nurses aren't allowed to wear nail polish. We've got the Biab. Now You've got the Shellac. Like it's not that chip away frigging $2 nail polish they used to use. We wear gloves now more as well, and there's so much hand sanitiser and stuff, why can't someone looking to get nurses actually wear shellac?
Speaker 4:You know what I mean? We're still at that stage where it's like we're still going through surgery, some surgeries that no one's re-looked at and it's something that can be re-looked at and most of the time after surgery the physios and the doctors, the nurses, don't really have much to do unless they're more involved in the clinics and unfortunately a lot of nurses aren't involved in the aftercare, in the setting. I'm in because I'm the pre-care, so the aftercare is more like your ward nurses and wound nurses. But yeah, also when you're saying more blood to the area, it depends like blood clots, yeah, yeah, and like you know, if they've got a clot near their stitch and they're pumping frigging away, that clot travels.
Speaker 2:All right, let's get away from that. Yeah, because I'm like I can go down this now.
Speaker 4:Actually my mind's just switched on.
Speaker 2:I've had two gins, so I'm like let's talk healthy vulva though, because a healthy vulva.
Speaker 4:Oh, healthy vulva is fucking good for life.
Speaker 1:See, but that's what I mean. Right, Like it's got to be good.
Speaker 4:I don't know about good, though, because when you think about it internally, you can cause trauma to the cleat as well, exactly, and your labia, minores and stuff too.
Speaker 3:It's just such fragile tissue right there, and where the difference is coming is when you're using a penis pump, it is coming directly to that erectile tissue, whereas the erectile tissue is internal for the clitoris.
Speaker 3:You know where we have, because we have two bulbs as well. Um, that is made of the same material, but if you're bringing it more to the surface rather than to the bulbs themselves, I can see that being somewhat problematic. Yeah, I could. I mean, I don't know. That's not my complete area as far as you know. Do we sell them and are they sold? Who's buying?
Speaker 4:them. I brought a cheap one, did you not like? This was like a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3:It's more for aesthetics, it's really more for aesthetics and I will say they're not very well made a lot of them they're actually. They're quite dangerous in their make because they're made of a lot of them are really hard plastic.
Speaker 4:Mine was hard.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they have just kind of like this barely silicone rim that kind of fits on which can allow for over-pumping, and like this giant seal that can really hurt exactly what you're talking about with the bruising.
Speaker 4:It did hurt, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's really more for aesthetics.
Speaker 4:And there's no settings. It's literally just a pump and a little like a release valve, and the release valves are so slim, like slimsy, that you either release a little bit and it all comes out, or you don't release at all and it gets stuck.
Speaker 2:Because you've got so much, you've got lube as well, and you can't get it off and it gets to that painful part because they're almost tokenistic, I suppose, right like because when you have a look at guys penis pumps, you go from your bargain basement model, which costs 50 bucks, all the way up to bath mate, which is costing what like 560 bucks now I think something stupid like that yeah but like they're obviously a massive change in quality from that 50 bucks to that 500 bucks.
Speaker 3:But when it comes to pussy pumps you're literally just you get your 50 buck to 100 variety and it's the same same yeah, I would really say that I mean, I don't know a ton about them, just because they're not sold, like I barely see them in stores, and if they do have them, it's going to be like one or two brands that I'm already familiar with. That aren't that great. Yeah, you know, I've seen some that have. You know, like the handle itself vibrates, so I could see it being uh, that one being a little bit more pleasure focused rather than just aesthetic. Yeah, a bigger, uh vulva, but if, if you're wanting a suction for clitoral stimulation, if that's why you would want one, you would want something much, much, much smaller.
Speaker 4:Just for that area, just for that area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's when you're going the entire vulva. That to me I don't know just from. I work with a lot of people with sexual dysfunction and so I focus a lot on, like the anatomy, biology side. I'm sure there's some positives, don't get me wrong, but to me I can only see the negatives.
Speaker 4:She's on my side. The medical perspective I'm like, because when you look at the don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker 1:I was just asking a fucking question, you shot me down in class.
Speaker 4:No, but I do see the train question.
Speaker 3:No, it's a great question. You should be down in class, why no? But I do see the train of thought, though, but it really is different in location and where that blood would be going.
Speaker 4:I'm glad you're saying that too, though, because when you do look at the penis pumps, they were technically not technically made for medical reasons, but they have been adjusted for those medical reasons, whereas the pussy pump, there's no medical reason behind it. Yeah True, two gins and I can still be smart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but maybe that's something to look into. But, yeah, I think that would be something worth looking into. Is there one that could be made for a medical purpose as well as pleasure as well as a?
Speaker 4:sex. My mind's just going like all different research right now.
Speaker 3:I think it would have to be different, though I've got three going at the moment.
Speaker 4:I can't take on another one. Can we wait until one's finished Someone's?
Speaker 2:got to do a PhD on this. Shut the F up Straws out of a hat. Shut the F up Straws out of a hat. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 4:I don't want people to steal my PhDs, are you?
Speaker 2:Let's talk anal toys.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, what do you want to know? Butt stuff.
Speaker 2:Butt stuff.
Speaker 4:It's becoming a lot bigger field now I think Pun intended, sorry, but it is Like a lot more people now are exploring anal play yeah.
Speaker 3:I also think a lot more straight men are more willing because that's a common conversation that I have If I'm talking to a straight man and they instantly are like well, you know, I wouldn't be into that because it's not straight.
Speaker 3:I'm like well, okay, that doesn't. I can tell there's some insecurity there for you. But there's a lot more to it. It doesn't just automatically because you want an anal product or toy of any kind, or you you like that, that all of a sudden it's immediately associated with like um pegging. You know, because for some people maybe it is, but I think there's a little bit too much of a connection there that you need to remember that there's your g-spot located anally.
Speaker 4:For men like it can be extremely pleasurable, but isn't that stigma around that getting less and less now because more straight men are trying different ways?
Speaker 2:I think to be honest, it's-. This is your forte, yeah it's not getting less and less, it is getting diversified, okay. So basically, I think what we're seeing right now is we're seeing a lot of guys coming up and being open and being like you know, I like a toy in my house. It doesn't make me gay because I'm not attracted to men, but I do like the sensations of anal play. Cool, I'm going to explore that because it's 2025 and fucking, why not?
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 2:They're the real cool guys, okay, they're the ones that have liberated their mind and strong enough to be able to put that out there. But then there's this other side now, and I think this is what you're starting to see in the States, where there's like a retraction of sexuality, and I think a lot of this is driven by like right-wing sort of politics, by Andrew Tate sort of stuff, where, like, men are men and if men aren't getting off because a woman's there for their pleasure, then it's not right, and I think the the middle ground is becoming less and less.
Speaker 2:But you're seeing that diversification of two different types of man now, and the type of man that's sitting there going fuck. No, I never put anything near my ass, or it's not because of that, it's because of the mindset that you don't want to be around because they're not the cool guys, because they're the ones that are going to start bringing a whole heap of shame and stigma into the relationship as a whole, whereas the other guys have done the work and there it is. So yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I, I completely agree. It's interesting to me. Um, when I worked in utah at a store, you know I would have couples come in and they were always if it was a heterosexual couple, he's so interested in doing anal with his wife. And then I was like, okay, so are you interested? Like I'm immediately assuming both people are into this, because I believe in equality, yeah, if.
Speaker 4:I'm getting something up my butt. You are too, no exactly.
Speaker 3:Plus, it can be far more pleasurable.
Speaker 4:just to men. I'm going to try that line.
Speaker 3:I mean. That's not to say that it isn't for women, but just biologically you have your prostate there. It can just feel really nice to have something anally like, say, a butt plug in at the same time that you're doing penetration. Then you can get a dual orgasm, whereas women can get a dual orgasm clitorally and vaginally at the same time, and then you could also get another one. You know, you could add the anal to get three. So women have a greater capacity for that but to only limit it to just one for men.
Speaker 3:To me I'm like, wouldn't you want to? Explore um so anyways, it's just interesting to me how they would come in and you know be so and so wanting something for her, and she's nervous and I can tell she's unsure about it, so I go through, you know the different tips and tricks and what I recommend, and then and I'm speaking to both of them, right, and I then go to the male products of what I recommend uh, and he's like whoa, not for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like how limiting because I think there's there's this thing where it's halfway. You are sort of to a lot of guys, you, you're like, oh, I'm not gay. It doesn't mean that you're like, oh, I'm not gay, right, yeah, it doesn't mean that you're gay.
Speaker 3:That doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2:Like why?
Speaker 1:are you what's?
Speaker 3:wrong if you are, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:The other thing is the masculinity side. I think there is a lot of how can I say it? There's a loss of masculinity for a lot of guys as soon as they become a receiver rather than a giver, and I think maybe that's a sticking point for a lot of guys well, that's so interesting that you say that, because when I look at the marketing of these products, of what's being sold to women versus what's being sold to men.
Speaker 3:I am always fascinated by the packaging and the names. The packaging for the women's it's pink. It has diamond encrusted bottoms, you know. For the plugs it's frilly, and it has things like happy sunshine, whatever. And the males, especially anal, it's all black, it's all like high voltage. It's just such aggressive, such aggressive names and super dark colors. Uh, the tank, the detonator, you know all these things. You don't want to put a detonator on your ass. So it's so funny to me, like the, the they're almost again feeding into that. Oh, what, to be masculine means these things. And so they market in such a way that, um, some of the best products are marketed towards women. That I think would be really great for men. And then I try and show them that. But the package alone. They're like no, no, no, no, it was just again. Just, it's just an interesting observation for me.
Speaker 4:Come on, guys, enjoy that little diamond in your butt. Yeah, it's got great power. That's just how it is.
Speaker 3:There is when you're looking at a product so like, let's say, you're standing at a store in an anal section, a really easy way to see, not just if something's marketed towards men versus women for packaging. If we put that aside, it's going to be how it's shaped. So the more expensive ones and the better ones for men are going to be shaped like an L rather than just straight, because the L is going to allow for the perineum to be vibrated, which is the skin right behind the scrotum, before the anus. So you want dual motors.
Speaker 3:If you're like, really going to go for it and you've been stretching things out, getting things ready and you're like, okay, I want something that vibrates really, really well and vibrates my prostate for that G-spot, you want to get something L-shaped and you want it to have two motors. You want it to have a motor on the straight part, the bottom of the L, and then one internally. You also want there to be a lot of taper to the top instead of just an immediate bulge, and so taper then bulge. That's going to be just better and it's going to feel better inside. And you want it to have a really strong rumbly vibration rather than a buzzy vibration? Yeah, because the rumble is going to be able to go up a lot better and vibrate that prostate. So that's something I mean you never, ever, ever want to use the same anal toy like to people like buy your own people, it does not matter how much you wash them, don't share.
Speaker 3:Yeah, please do not Like please.
Speaker 4:It's like a poo transplant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do not, there's so much bacteria.
Speaker 2:Rich people pay for that shit. Now you know, they do Pay for that shit.
Speaker 4:That's pun intended. I love these puns.
Speaker 3:There is so much bacteria in your rectum that just cleaning it, even with an antibacterial toy cleaner, that's not enough. It's this is a once. I always say once it goes in that hole, it doesn't go in any other hole or anyone else's hole like that is yours and yours alone. Unless it is glass and you boil it, that's different. But unless it can be boiled like, you need to have separate ones. But yeah, that l shape can feel really nice for men and it can also plug a lot better. A common mistake is too small of bases, Because you need to remember that there is no end to your rectum, like it goes into your intestines.
Speaker 3:And your mouth. Yeah, oh, it just goes up there is no end, whereas vaginally there's your cervix, but you have two sphincters I'm sure you've talked about this on, like your size and stuff, but like you need to keep in mind that second sphincter that you have no control over, like it can suck up really large things. You can stretch your rectum so big.
Speaker 2:So if you're starting out and depending on the position you're in, everything, you just need to make sure that base is big enough and that l shape can really help with that because quite often and you see this with quite a lot of the female plugs the base is pretty much the exact same size as the the plug that's going in, and that's that becomes really problematic when orgasm starts happening and you see the anus like actually pulsating Absolutely and it opens and it gapes because it's already had something that size.
Speaker 4:So many ED admissions. You're just like pointing at me like yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:From butt plugs From butt plugs.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:Or anything they really want to shove in their butt and it gets stuck. But I've seen like torches and stuff I think we've spoken about before like the light was on and it's like coming out of, like it's a flashlight.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly, it's coming out of his asshole. But no, yeah, a lot of people, because during orgasm, oh there she goes. Yeah, because like those muscles are contracting and like they're sort of breathing in and out and then Every user butt plugger I always get like because obviously working in the ED I'm always like hold that thing.
Speaker 1:Tie a rope around it. We're going in.
Speaker 4:I'm not going into an ED. I know what they do.
Speaker 2:But I don't understand why these toy companies aren't making bigger bases on butt plugs.
Speaker 3:Right, oh, I feel the same way.
Speaker 4:I feel, the exact same way, because I'm sure everyone that's coming to the ED has thought that as well. 100%.
Speaker 3:Because how many people are suing a toy company? You know not many, because then you have. You know that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so embarrassing but like, surely it can't cost all that much more to put like an extra quarter inch on the base of a butt plug right, but yeah, I, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I'm sure it all comes down to money. I'm sure it does, but everything's money I also just think, yeah, there's not enough people saying send me to the ER or the ED here, put a butt, plug up my butt that.
Speaker 4:I can't retrieve.
Speaker 3:People aren't really willing to share.
Speaker 4:Because after an orgasm sometimes people just don't want anything back up there and then, it's just like well, we need to try to dish this out and you just can't.
Speaker 3:Once it's gone, you have to go. You can't fish that out.
Speaker 4:Please don't try.
Speaker 2:Because apparently what the rectum and the intestines do when there's something foreign is they sort of pull it back up towards the stomach instead of trying to get it out, because the stomach acid can get rid of it. Yeah, Like it's your body's weird sort of way of doing that, like it doesn't know that it's, that it's not something that can be absorbed. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:Yes, no, absolutely. So that's you know when I'm telling people who are wanting to try it and experiment, because a common question is you know, what's the appeal for men? What's the appeal for men? What's? The appeal for women. For women, it can feel really nice if you're having it in at the same time as penetration.
Speaker 3:It can actually feel great for both parties, because you could potentially feel it, you know, on his penis shaft, but then you can like she can feel it as well, especially if it has, if he has, a lot of girth and then it's vibrating at the same time, like that can be really pleasurable. And then then for men of course, you can have one in get that dual orgasm. There's a lot of really great benefits to why people want to try it.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 3:I wish that there was more safety Just don't lose it. Yeah, exactly. If you're going to do it, you need to look up the safety tips before oh totally.
Speaker 2:But like the thing with what you were just saying, like if it's in a female's butt and the guy's inside the vagina, yeah, we won't have experience with this, so please tell. It even comes down to position because, like if the girl's flat on the back, then the bulb of the plug is falling away from the penis, like it's still.
Speaker 2:You can still feel it, but it's less of a sensation, and underneath the penis is actually, I would say, not as much sensation as on top so when you flip over and do doggy style and suddenly the full weight of the toy is resting on the penis and hitting the top of that, you know, the glands. There's a lot more sensation there as well. So like it comes down to that, but weight as well. Like I never realized that weight was a massive thing with butt plugs.
Speaker 3:Yes, and you can get them weighted as well. So I know I have one friend. She really likes the weighted uh balls okay, yeah so exactly, she'll do a kegel ball, but she'll put it in anally and then she'll just walk around, because they don't, they just have weights in them, so they'll kind of like knock back and forth. Sometimes they're advertised as vibrating balls, but they don't actually vibrate no, I, I use them for pelvic floor strength.
Speaker 3:Yeah but you can use them anally and they can feel really good to distribute that weight like back and forth and kind of feel that but that is something that can benefit you from going inside of a store instead of just purchasing online is to feel how heavy it is, because sometimes those diamond encrusted like that adds weight.
Speaker 2:Or the stainless steel ones, yeah, those things are heavy you wouldn't want to get one thrown at your head, that's for sure yeah, oh my goodness, some of them.
Speaker 3:They are massive and you don't realize how heavy that they really feel until you have it in your hand. You're like, oh my goodness, yeah, you know, unless you're into that. But like know that you're into that, until you have it in your hand You're like, oh my goodness, that's fucking nuts. Yeah, you know, unless you're into that. But like know that you're into that before you try it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, please don't just go with it. I'm going to go heavy. Heavy's good.
Speaker 2:Talking about bocce balls, I once read a post from a girl who was in the size play community that was actually doing it with those stainless steel bocce balls oh my God, because like those little vibrating balls are so small. But yeah, she was doing her pelvic floor training with a bocce ball. That's awesome. Which is what like?
Speaker 4:300 grams. She must have a really good pelvic floor. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2:Wow, most guys would sit there and go no love, you just got to lose pussy. But yeah, she can hold like a 300 or 400-gram bocce ball in there for like hours at a time.
Speaker 4:I'm very impressed at her pelvic floor right now. It's fucking great, isn't it? That is amazing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's so. Anal toys look at the base. They're going to be very different from male, female, not just packaging, but the way that they actually work as well. I would sort of say as well. Look at like the cross bar, like the t-bar style ones, instead of the round plugs, because of what we're just talking about.
Speaker 3:100, the big, bulbous ones like, especially if you're starting out like. As for women, they're not as comfortable. I can't speak to the men, but yeah, continue, sorry, say what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah like that sort of handle that sits on the outside, Like when you insert. Obviously it's a lot easier to insert than to get your fingers around this tiny little round knob.
Speaker 4:Yeah, sometimes I freak out because it's hard to get your fingers around them and everyone's sleepy from lube and you're like. Yeah, right, and then you're just like get the fucking thing out of me.
Speaker 2:But then when you've got this T-bar, sort of cross handle there is no way that that's jumping into your backside out of accident. Yeah, yeah, that's the one thing I would say with butt plugs specifically. But we were talking about before we got on air, about glass and steel and using those with DP, and Tash brought up that you should never use two steel toys during DP.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because you don't know about the magnetic fields behind it and the friction.
Speaker 1:Because they could magnetise to each other through your rectal wall right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're just going to make sure that, like test it out before you chuck it in. Like just make sure that they're not going to connect in any way. Oh, I can imagine. But also the frictions as well. You've got to watch out, because if you get a lot of friction in there, you don't really want to heed. You know what I mean like perforated.
Speaker 2:Because I have heard like that clanging is very uncomfortable. You don't really want your vagina wall to enter your rectum wall, and then with the glass, the glass can shatter when it gets hit against another glass.
Speaker 4:It's like when two hammers get smashed against each other they shatter quite easily and that's not a very pleasant surgery to have, not experience, but because we'll work with women's health, like yeah, yeah, not saying that people have come through with that, but it's like, um, unfortunately, like you do get, because I was mental health, you get the mental health ones that try to harm themselves any way possible and they do put glass that breaks up there to harm and or some of them just like surgery any way possible to go into surgery, but it can cause more damage than anything so don't do two glass either because like yeah, pain, pain break and then, yeah, and the way that glass shatters as well.
Speaker 2:It's like chunks so it's like an inch or two of solid glass, it's going to just tear through your rectum.
Speaker 3:So yeah, because it's tempered glass. It's not like your regular glass cups that you have downstairs. You know, in your kitchen you drop on the floor and it shatters like this stuff is hard glass, so if that breaks in, you like oh, oh yeah yeah, that's what is it, ed ed trip, yep, oh yeah, what is it emergency? Department, department okay, we say er yeah, emergency room room.
Speaker 2:It's not a room it's whole bloody thing, yeah, you're right so the I got an interesting question from a, from a listener the other day. They wanted a large glass toy and they're like I can't find anything more than two inches. But when I was looking and I was like I was researching around it and I couldn't figure it out. So I got in touch with a manufacturer and I was like, can you go bigger than two inches? There's a whole heap of people out there that want it and he can't because apparently it's got something to do with the tempering and the cooling process that just weakens the entire if it gets bigger, it's weaker, isn't it?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's more fragile. Yeah, on the edges, yeah, you don't want to put that internally. Yeah, that's fucking well.
Speaker 2:All right, let's wrap this up, though, because, well, we'll wrap it up.
Speaker 3:We're talking about hands-free couples toys yes, yes, oh, this is one of my favorite topics, okay as I bunk the mic, okay, okay. Hands-free couples toys there's going to be a ton of products that advertise to you, um. Now they're typically advertising to a heterosexual couple. So penis and vagina user, um, and they'll just say hands-free, meaning hands-free for both people, that you can just insert it.
Speaker 3:Typically they are inserted vaginally and then they sit clitorally and then you can have penetration at the same time, so they're like a u-shape yeah yeah, okay, but there is something very important that you need to know is that, uh, there is a pattern that WeVibe has on the hinge design, so the rest of them aren't going to have hinges. Now why does that matter? It matters because once it is internal so once you have one part that's inside vaginally and the other part's sitting clitorally, and then you have a penis go in, once they start thrusting without that hinge to kind of lock it in place, it's going to slide right out, defeating the whole point of hands free.
Speaker 4:So typically then you can only do very limited positions where it is actually hands free or you end up having to put someone has to put a hand down to, kind of hold it in place, and it can.
Speaker 3:It's just not as comfortable, right? But WeVibe was very smart to patent. Uh, now lilo did copy and they did a hinge like design and there was this huge lawsuit, millions of dollars, it's a whole thing. I can, yeah, I. I love reading about all the companies suing each other in the patents. I look up all of the company's patents because it really matters when it comes to what products are actually going to do what they say they can.
Speaker 3:So now Lilo, the final of that lawsuit was there are certain parts of the European market that lilo is able to sell, theirs that has a hinge like design. It's slightly different, but they can't sell it outside of, like a certain number of countries in europe. So just know, across the board, when you see a hands-free couples toy, unless it is we vibe, it's either using a hard wire so, yes, it can lock into place but it's too thick to really allow for penis or it's just, uh, it has no hinge, no wire, it's just a u-shape and it will most likely come out with penetration. So that's just good to know, because nothing sucks more than when you go and you spend, you know, a hundred dollars product thinking, oh, this is going to be great because we can both be hands-free, be doing different things. And then it's not hands-free and now you feel like you've wasted all this money right yeah.
Speaker 3:Now WeVibe. They have a few different versions. This is where things get really confusing, oh my God, because if you were to look up WeVibe, so the WeVibe Chorus, that's the one they're probably most known for. That one has a double hinge design, which is really great because it can really curve into whichever body you're using it with. So because every vulva is different, everybody's body is different, that one probably fits the best across the board.
Speaker 3:As far as right now, what's the best product on the market for hands-free? I would definitely say it's the WeVibe Chorus, and it comes with a. They have a patent on their remote. It's a squeezable remote, so you don't have to press up and down, you can just squeeze it and it automatically turns it up, which is kind of nice. But they also have a version, the WeVibe Sync. That's one hinge, so it's not as customizable. They have one that has an open end, which that one's really good if your partner's a little bit bulkier, if they have a lot of girth to them, and it's going to be a little too much to have two things in there you know something vaginally and them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:This one opens it up a little bit more, so it's a lot thinner, but it doesn't have the motor on the inside, so you're kind of trade-off, yeah yeah, but they do have a non-hinged version, so be careful if you're looking it up and you're saying, sweet, I'm on we vibes website, I'm buying this one, because nikki said that this is the one with the hand and you're going for the cheapest option, which is the uh, wevibe Sync or the WeVibe Light. It's the same product advertised two different ways. It does not have the hinge. So if you're going to go with a no hinge design, just go with something cheaper.
Speaker 2:Go with a different brand. Yeah, this goes back to what we were talking about at the very start of the episode is, if you're going to buy a sex toy, invest in it.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly If hands-free is your number one priority, like I said, my bank account. Yeah, this is the one. This is the one if you really want hands-free, if that doesn't matter as much to you. There are a lot of other hands-free options that connect to the penis, but the reason they're not as popular or as good is because it doesn't have that constant clitoral stimulation which. Because it doesn't have that constant clitoral stimulation which is so needed when you have someone with a vagina.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and guys, let's be fair. You're 90% going to blow your load anyway, whereas a female is what Like? What's the stats around that 60, 40%?
Speaker 4:I don't know. I just go to the bathroom and go. I'm going to go for my after sex wee and finish off. So sad it's, so sad I do, so sad I'm gonna give you a cuddle now you okay, I'm okay, I've moved on from him, it's fine. Third time I was like, nah, I'm done, yeah, but you can also.
Speaker 3:You know, if hands-free isn't the number one priority. There's tons of stuff that are very ergonomic, easy to hold clitorally at the same time, and then you know he could wear a cock ring or something if he likes. That stimulation just depends on what you're going for. But I always like to make sure that people know that just because it says hands free does not mean that it is actually going to be yeah, you're going to be continually readjusting.
Speaker 2:I was going to, but I don't know how dark.
Speaker 4:We can go on the podcast.
Speaker 2:As dark as you want.
Speaker 4:I was going to say so. Biolateral amputated arms. It's not always hands-free, oh my fucking God.
Speaker 3:You're thinking of the, you know, a whole community. Yeah, the disabled community.
Speaker 4:Oh Lord. You said I could say anything.
Speaker 2:You do you? Which brings me to something funny that I suppose I should tell you guys.
Speaker 4:Yeah, don't leave me as the only one.
Speaker 2:A number of years ago I went and did a sex toy workshop for people with disabilities. Oh cool, so I learned all about like different sort of sex toys that were available. Now there was this one absolutely groundbreaking thing at the time. So it was this plastic see-through cube which was basically like a flashlight, but basically it gets set up somewhere and it was voice activated. There were also like paddles on the side where you could squeeze or push in. Like if you were non-verbal, you could squeeze or push instead. Oh wow, that's so good it had.
Speaker 2:It would basically learn about your orgasm rituals, like how your penis would move through the stages of orgasm Pardon me and it would learn that and it would set up different situations where it could get you to orgasm quicker or slower or whatnot, where it could get you to orgasm quicker or slower or whatnot. It was a highly highly automated brilliant piece of kit. You could talk to it in seven different languages. What?
Speaker 1:It was fucking fantastic. That's so cool.
Speaker 2:You could tell it to start stop, slow down, go faster, and there was like even this setting on it where it would be like make me come, and it would do exactly what you needed it to do to get you off as quickly as possible. The problem with this particular device is that it didn't recognise only one voice so that somebody could hear you using it from outside and walk past the room and go, make me come, and suddenly this device goes boom.
Speaker 4:Oh See, because I'm the caring person, but because I am an ED and mental health nurse background. We are very dark human beings and I'm like that wouldn't be fun, you'd totally be doing that, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1:Make me come, make me come, make me come.
Speaker 2:People's penises exploding all over the place.
Speaker 3:Is this product still around?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:But it's such a good thing, though, apart from that, they should make it one voice activated. But apart from that, that's really good.
Speaker 2:That was one of the key flaws in it. So yeah, that was fucking fascinating.
Speaker 3:When technology and products and sex come together.
Speaker 4:I love it.
Speaker 3:It's so fascinating, I mean, I love it.
Speaker 2:They say that man is no more inventive than when he's trying to kill somebody else. But I actually think that man is no more inventive than when he wants to blow his load or blow their load. So, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3:That's a great way to end honestly. It is.
Speaker 2:And on that note, make me cum.
Speaker 1:Catch you guys next time, see ya. Well, if you weren't curious before, I bet you are now.
Speaker 2:A huge thank you to Nikki Kelly for joining us and keeping things as hilarious as they were insightful. If you've never thought about packing a butt plug next to your passport, this might be your sign that it's a good thing to try. Do make sure that you follow Nicky at the Virgin Sex Educator on Instagram and check out the show notes for the rest of the links. Until next time, stay curious, stay classy and remember. Connection comes in many forms, some of them remote controlled.
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