Super Sex
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Welcome to Supersex—the podcast where you get to dive into all things sex and relationships without it ever getting boring!
Ever wondered how talking about sex could actually be fun? Well, here’s where you find out. We’ve got a queer guy and a straight dude ready to dish out the tea, share the cringey moments, and keep it as real (and hilarious) as it gets.
Every episode is packed with the good stuff—the latest research, wild stories, and a ton of laughs, so you get to learn about sex and relationships without feeling like you're in a classroom.
Curious about what’s new in sexual health? Need advice on navigating the dating jungle? Or maybe you just wanna hear about someone else’s relationship fails to feel better about your own? We got you!
From first dates to kink, we're breaking down the science and making it all relatable to you so you can implement the good stuff into your sex life and get rid of the bad.
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Super Sex
SuperSex Reheated: Episode 29: Cum, Creampies and Cumdumping
The fascination with cum goes far beyond physical pleasure—it's a complex psychological territory where power, identity, and vulnerability intertwine in unexpected ways. This provocative deep-dive explores why cream pies can feel deeply intimate while cum dumping pushes boundaries of submission and dominance, revealing how these practices tap into primal psychological needs.
We unpack the surprising duality at play: how the same act can make someone feel both powerful and vulnerable simultaneously. For givers, ejaculating inside a partner can represent dominance and possession; for receivers, it's both submission and empowerment—"holding onto that moment for a little bit longer." This tension creates a unique sexual dynamic that few other practices can match.
The conversation doesn't shy away from practical concerns either. We candidly address sexual health considerations, debunk myths about ejaculate volume popularized by porn, and discuss how biological factors like hydration and abstinence affect your experience. Men's connection between ejaculate volume and masculine identity receives particular attention, revealing how deeply our sexual functions connect to our sense of self.
Perhaps most valuably, we conclude with a powerful message of acceptance. Whether you produce a little or a lot, whether you're into specific cum-related practices or not, your body and preferences are valid. By examining these taboos with humor and honesty, we hope to normalize conversations about aspects of sexuality many people experience but rarely discuss openly.
Ready to think differently about a subject that's simultaneously everywhere and nowhere in our sexual discourse? This episode will change how you understand not just cum, but the complex psychology that shapes our most intimate moments.
All right, you horny little super sexes, welcome back to another Super Sex, reheated. And listen, we know what you're here for. It's because you're just a little bit nasty. Now this is the reheat of episode 29, our second most popular episode of all time. In this episode, we dig into cum, cream pies and cum dumping. It is the episode that made half of you blush and the other half DM us your wild confessions and pretty much all of you hit replay At least once.
Speaker 1:Anyway, this episode exploded pun very much intended because it taps into something deeper than just kink In it. We're talking about cum as a symbol, a symbol of power, intimacy, dominance, masculinity and even risk. Whether you're into it, curious, or side-eyeing from a safe distance, this episode hits on something primal and psychological that a lot of people secretly think about but rarely say out loud. We break it all down from personal stories and cultural taboos to why cream pies can feel emotionally intense and why cum dumping pushes buttons around submission, degradation and sometimes even connection. Plus, we myth-buster pornified nonsense about volume and get real about health, safety and consent. So grab a towel, just kidding. Oh, safety and consent, so grab a towel, just kidding, kind of. Anyways, join us as we dive back into one of our most unfiltered and unforgettable episodes ever, because, come, it's more than just a mess. Hey, to all the straights, gays and nays, welcome to Super Sex, the podcast where we have conversations and share our perspectives on sexuality, sex and more.
Speaker 2:I'm Sheldon and I'm Jordan, two friends, one straight, one gay, taking on all things sex. Hello.
Speaker 1:Hey buddy, how you doing.
Speaker 2:I'm great. Thank you, how are you Good, that sounds a little bit sexual, sorry, it's more the wink that you gave me. Look at my legs, oh my God. Someone took the piss out of me. One of our listeners took the piss out of me this week. Yeah, who was it? I don't know? Call him out. Yeah, who was it? I don't know? Call him out. Yeah, nick, he, he. I was talking about merch he goes, he goes. Oh, yeah, I said oh, don't worry, you got it, you'll get one, and he goes, oh.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make sure it's good Super sex singlet.
Speaker 2:So I was like first of all fuck Jordan, jordan, he's the problem here, he's the one that started this bullshit. And then, secondly, I replied and I was like of course, every male is getting a singlet. Of course they are.
Speaker 1:I want to see everybody's pits and a free big razor for the back of their knees. Well, you know what? It's not just Nick that's been giving you shit about it this week, because, uh, we've also got like another listener, daniel who, like always, you know, comes out with some really funny stuff sends me this picture and it's like this is sherman and it's like this demon thing. It's like what am I looking at? And then, 10 seconds later, like my son, rugby tackles me and wants to play, and I come back to her. It's like this is Sherman. It underneath it it's got pit lord why is everybody coming for me?
Speaker 3:guys, guys, come on, I just, I, just, I just love.
Speaker 2:I love pits speaking of people coming for me, that was the the best segue I have come up with. I am so excited. Is this Pit Lord's Cocktails? So I want to read. So this is obviously what our episode today is about. I want to start off with right, so I just went on to Reddit and 101 ways to say this Such bad ones. It's hilarious. My favorite one so far Dude soup. All right, cock snot, cock, snot, cock, snot, shaft salsa, titty frosting, pleasure ropes. I've never had that one Testicular manslaughter oh what Salty jelly.
Speaker 1:That doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2:But my favorite, the other Other white meat. So if you haven't guessed yet Today's episode we are talking about um love juice cum fetishes, everything to do with cum, the sticky, bleachy mess okay, so now this is the thing. It's like bleachy, you do? You do agree that it smells a little bit bleachy, chloriney, right, yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, absolutely okay. I've got almost zero sense of smell and even sometimes it's like fucking hell, somebody clean up around here or what before we start, I just want to put something out there.
Speaker 2:Do you know? Okay, obviously you don't know. Duh, you do. You get you the straight one here? Of course you don't know. So just for the record, it does taste different. I don't know. I don't know because I don't, as we have. We I've said before I don't like, I don't like giving a head, that much right.
Speaker 1:This is why I've just give you half a liter of pineapple juice. No jokes, literally when I got here, he's like do you want some pineapple juice?
Speaker 2:I'm like what is happening? So it does actually. So there was this one dude where I don't. I do not like doing it, let alone having it. Having someone finish in my mouth. That is a it's a no-no for me. I don't like it. And this dude did without really warning me. And not only did it taste gross, it like it tingled on my tongue, like there was, you know, when you put like a battery or like something copper or metal in your mouth and it kind of like tingles a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like that and I was like dude. Maybe there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 1:You know you're not supposed to put batteries on your tongue right.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what it tasted like. It tastes like battery acid. I don't know what battery acid tastes like. Anybody tasted battery?
Speaker 1:acid. I'm sure there was somebody. It's like that popping candy that you can get in your mouth.
Speaker 2:There you go. That but a horrible, horrible taste.
Speaker 1:Dude probably has been trying to do sounding with popping candy you never fucking know, and some weird, weird things. It's ill sounding.
Speaker 2:We should do an episode on sounding, have we? We haven't done one yet, have we? No, we should do one on sounding.
Speaker 1:Sounding would be interesting. Yeah, I think it will be Very interesting, very interesting because I still don't understand that.
Speaker 2:Well, I only just found out the reason why people do it. Why do people do it? Well, I just thought it was the sensation of having something in your, your urethra, but apparently it's also. You get to a point where you go to the point where your prostate is and it's massaging your prostate from the inside and then, if that feel, apparently that feels good. I don't know. There's some someone out there that actually does it. If any of our listeners are into it, please let us know if that is actually it.
Speaker 1:That'd be interesting. I've always wanted to know why they actually call it sounding Like every time I've ever heard that term. Sounding. All I've ever got is like radar pings.
Speaker 2:I want to know why do they actually call it sounding? I don't know. We'll have to dig into it. We'll dig into it. So let's get back to today's episode. Today's episode, we're talking all about cum. We're talking cream pies.
Speaker 1:We're talking about yeah, why people like cum cream pies, cum dumping?
Speaker 2:Okay, Cool, cool, cool cool. Where do you want to start, Jordan?
Speaker 1:You got to start, as always, why people are into this.
Speaker 2:Why are people into this? Why are people into this? Okay, this is the easy. I don't want to give too much away, because I don't want anybody else to know my shit. So yeah, okay, I'm going to start off by saying family members, this one's not for you.
Speaker 1:Can we just put like an overarching disclaimer at the start of every episode?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, there hasn't been that many, there's just a few that I'm like. And I actually had a conversation with one of my cousins a few weeks ago and they're like oh, listen to the podcast. And I was like, oh God, don't do that. No, please, don't Not that episode. So I said to him, don't worry. At the end of every uh every, every session let's start with explain definition of cream.
Speaker 1:So cream pie is when the load let's call it is deposited within the vagina or the anus.
Speaker 2:Right, so basically coming in someone.
Speaker 1:Coming in someone. Yep Right, you've got cum dumping, which is where there's one recipient and a whole heap of people just lining up and dumping their loads right in there, right. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And then, obviously, like, you've got the regular stuff like facials and body shots and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, I think the more taboo extreme side of it is cream pies and cum dumping, especially Cum dumping, especially Right. So I've never had a cum thing. Some guys do, some guys don't. Really, I've never sat there and gone. Oh, that really makes a big difference for me where it goes, it's just oh, where it goes.
Speaker 1:Where it goes, like whether it's a cream pie, whether it's on the person, whether it's into a box of kleenex, who knows? Right, it's just never been a thing. Um, that's interesting. But like, obviously, after going through this practice of trying to get pregnant, this been going on and in preparation for this episode, I was like, hey, why is it a thing for you, or why do you even like it? And she's like I do like it. And I'm like, okay, cool, why. And she goes it's intimate, yes, it's something that is between you and me. I would not do that with another person, right? You know you're my husband and that's the only reason you know you have that privilege yeah, that's making me starting, to make me start thinking you just love like no, I'm just not intimacy.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so sweet and cute. No, that's not me.
Speaker 1:No see, but that's one aspect one aspect of why people are into it, all right right um, there are other parts. There is being a slut it is my, my part.
Speaker 2:I think my part is I don't know it's. I don't know how to explain it. I do actually have I'm you know what. I'm gonna actually admit something I don't think I have. I always get confused. Can you please just remind me the difference between kinks and fetishes? Which one is? It's a kink, right? Who is a kink?
Speaker 1:a kink is like a deviation away from anything that you could really term as vanilla. Let's say okay.
Speaker 2:So my fetish is when you need that thing to get off. I'm like maybe it is a kink.
Speaker 1:I do like cum Okay.
Speaker 2:Dive into that Like a lot, like I get off seeing it. Okay, so it's a visual thing. It's a visual thing, right, it's a visual thing. It's a visual thing, right, mostly a visual thing, yeah. Like if I'm going to watch porn, I need to see, I need to see, I need to see the money shot. Okay, cause in my brain sex is and I know it's.
Speaker 2:It's not a healthy way of looking, because sex is not the money shot and sex is not just the ejaculation right, but in my brain that's what it is, it's like the final crescendo. Yes, it's just so. To me that's what I need. Excuse me to feel like okay, cool, I got what I came here for yeah yeah. So yes, I do like, I do like it. I don't want it anywhere near my mouth or my face don't like facials yeah I just like why would I want to see my eyeballs like who's gonna want come in the eye, like, come on seriously, red eye, who wants that? No?
Speaker 1:one wants that. Is that why they call it the red eye flight. Everyone's just got facials, is that it?
Speaker 2:no, but you know I've started a new thing. I'm going to call it a red eye. Come in somebody's eye. You want a red eye. You can take a trip with a red eye. So yeah for me it's like I don't want it in my face, Don't? Want it in my mouth, but anywhere else.
Speaker 1:Anywhere else. Anywhere else Is a particular part of the parts that are very arousing for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't believe I'm going to say this fuck it, who cares? I don't. You know what. If you're gonna listen to it, fucking listen to who cares to judge me, if you want to one where I can see it yep okay so not on my back, because I just feel like and this is obviously we talk about me bottoming here right. Not on back because I can't see shit. What's the point? My stomach, my chest, sure, that's hot to me.
Speaker 1:And then, obviously, if I'm bottoming inside me, oh okay, Cream pie.
Speaker 2:Cream pie. I do love a good cream pie. Just because you know what it is for me. It's knowing. You know what it is for me. It's a little bit of what um thing was saying that, it's a little bit of intimacy yeah but it also is a little bit of. This is gonna sound so weird. It's a little bit of ownership, oh do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:A little bit of ownership, like, first of all, I allowed you to do this to me and then, second of all, I'm like I get a bit of a kick thinking that, yeah, I've I made that guy come I made that guy come in and I've got, I've got him inside me.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's that sounded no, that I different, I totally get it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I totally get it, it's, it's, you know what it is?
Speaker 2:Because it is. It's like it's holding. I'll tell you what it is it's holding onto. It sounds gross, but it's holding onto that. That moment that you had yeah For a little bit longer. Do you get what I mean?
Speaker 1:Sort of like when Jeffrey Dahmer Cut the penis off his victims.
Speaker 2:And kept it. Yeah, same. Thing. Yeah, I'm. Jeffrey About the to cut the penis off his victims and kept it. Yeah, same thing. Yeah, I'm jeffrey about the glasses. No, but it's more like a number one a little slightly. I'm gonna say dominant and dominating thing, because it's not really, but it's like knowing that you know what? Yeah, I've, I've got a little bit of you, but also it holds on to and makes me feel like that moment hasn't ended. It's like almost a.
Speaker 1:It's a strange sort of duality with it Right, Like on one point it's, you can be dominant as in. I've just made this person come. I've done that, yep, but on the other side it's like it's a submissive thing, exactly Because it's like yeah, useissive thing exactly because it's like, yeah, use me as your little cum tray exactly because I'm a slut.
Speaker 2:It's both. It is literally both them. It's like treat me like a slut and and then come at me, but then also know that I allowed you to do that I wonder if it's.
Speaker 1:I can't think of like off the top of my head. I can't think of like off the top of my head. I can't think of any other sexual scenario where there's that duality.
Speaker 2:Duality when there's no, that moment.
Speaker 1:Because it literally is just a moment, right, yeah, wow, that's Mind blown, mind blown. Crazy.
Speaker 2:Even I didn't think about it until you.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh shit it is. It's like a complete power and submissive play it's power and the thing is with me.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm. It's very me. I'm very much in the middle because I don't like to be dominated. No, yeah, unless I'm allowing you to dominate me, which doesn't happen very often, but at the same same time I yes, I'm. I don't think I'm a dominant person in general. You tell me if I'm wrong. I don't think I am. Maybe I am.
Speaker 1:I'm not a dominant person. Yeah, I think you're assertive when you want to be.
Speaker 2:When I want to be, but I'm not a dominant person. You're not a dominant person no, I like to be not dominant, but I like to be in control. I think there's a very big difference. Yeah, you can dominate me as long as I'm in control of that domination. So I'm kind of like sitting on the border most times. So this is probably why I like.
Speaker 1:I like the cream pie so much. That explains why you've got those straps around your bed and the chains. I get it now. I get it. When we were living together and I was cleaning the house. I was like what Is he trying to just haul his ass into bed? I'm confused. But fuck, now it makes sense. Shut up, you idiot.
Speaker 2:Oh, my days.
Speaker 1:I think there's, so it's definitely like a power play. There's definitely an intimacy with it. I think as well there's also like a taboo nature to it right, yes. And there is a slutty nature to it.
Speaker 2:Very, very slutty.
Speaker 1:And I think you.
Speaker 2:I just had a thought that it must, because when I'm topping, it very much is about being like I'm dominating this person, like yeah, you know, what fuck it, I'm gonna come in there yeah, yeah, are you gonna take it. I want to dominate, I'm going to dominate and you're gonna take me. You cum. You're going to take this load.
Speaker 1:I think that's also like half the psychology behind coming on somebody's face, it's degrading. Yeah, there's almost like a sort of degrading nature to it.
Speaker 2:It's 100% degrading nature. Like you are on your knees, yeah, I'm coming all over you and you're going to take my cum and that person is dominating you. It is power, that's probably that's why I don't like, I don't like facials, because, no, you don't get to be you don't get to be you don't get to be that dominant over me. No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1:You'll be as dominant as I let you. You power bottom. That is me, yeah, so so it's definitely that slutty side to it, definitely that slutty side to it where you either like to be sort of degraded or degrade somebody to that point as well. You could even you use a different word and say dirtiness to it. Taboo nature of it, and this is like as soon as you were like and I'm not calling you out on this- at all you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1:You're a big boy. But when you're like, people come inside me and I'm like, oh okay, so like that's somebody coming inside, Is he going bareback, Is he not? Does it make a difference? Are all these people chested? Is there sort of a thrill?
Speaker 2:in that. So that was my next thing I was going to bring up. You can continue, right.
Speaker 1:So basically it's like because that taboo nature, that risk-taking, that goes for a lot of different kinks and fetishes as well, right, yes, a lot Like exhibitionism, risk-taking. That goes for a lot of different kinks and fetishes as well. Right, yes, a lot like exhibitionism, voyeurism is all about risk-taking. Yes, this as well. I think there's a certain element of, there's a huge element of risk to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course. Yeah, so that was the next. My next point that I was going to bring up, that I was going to say, is it's all well and good. The downside of it is the sexual safety in terms of stis yeah. So we've got things like prep and pep cool, that's no problem. That can protect us from hiv and aids, but that doesn't protect you from any other sexually transmitted infection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I've actually heard as well that I think it's gonorrhea is massively on the rise at the moment and is almost turning into like this antibiotic resistant strain.
Speaker 1:Because what's happening? People are just falling back on pep and prep and they're just going. You know what? I'm not going to get AIDS. Yes, everything else I can deal with, I can just take a shot for it. Them back on pep and prep and they're just going. You know what? I'm not going to get AIDS. Yes, everything else I can deal with, I can just take a shot.
Speaker 2:Which is a problem and also the thing is this is that people, people don't get tested as much as often as they should? No, not at all. No, and I feel like, again, it is risky behavior. And is that part of it for me? For me, I don't really care so much. It's not risk about risky behavior for me, because if there's other things that I'm into that are risky behavior, that I will do to get my jollies off for that part.
Speaker 1:Like your solo parachute jumping masturbation over the top of a football field.
Speaker 2:Stop telling the whole world about my things that I like to do, but that would be fucking funny.
Speaker 1:Just imagine that it's like an AFL game or something.
Speaker 2:And I'll play as the thing.
Speaker 1:What is that on my face? Sherman's coming down in this massive fucking parachute with super sex written on it, naked from the waist down, just wanking over the ground. It'll be fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:Just get it in the eye of one of the players that'll be brilliant.
Speaker 1:Is it a seagull? Is it a bird? No, it's just sherman having a wang. It's just sherman's gone I've just been chatted. No, sherman, it's super sex.
Speaker 2:but, yeah, I think that the safety part of it is a concern because it means that you have to make sure the person that you are being vulnerable enough with that is going to do it cream pie you, for example, or you, you, them you have to have the conversation about hey, can we talk about our sexual health? Yeah, when's the last time you were tested? When's the last time you? Okay, when was the last time you were tested? Yep, it was three weeks ago. Cool, in that three weeks, have you slept with anybody else? If you have, was it protected? Was it unprotected?
Speaker 2:You have to kind of think that we have to be a little bit smart, especially if you're single or not just single. There's many people that are out there that have different sexual partners. If you have more than one sexual partner, that's something you should be thinking about. You have to think about the safety of your body and other people's as well. But, yeah, I think it's a very important topic and a very important point that you do need to think about. I think any kind of sexual meeting you should have a conversation about sexual health every single time, regardless.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fuck, yeah. And even if you're in like a monogamous relationship, that should be an ongoing, recurring thing, of course, because girls get thrush and utis quite regularly. Yes, you know. So there's always got to have that conversation about sexual health. Yep, you know, always got to be done do you know, boys get utis too absolutely, you're the first person.
Speaker 2:I know that said that because everyone so every time I've said to somebody I had a UTI, they're like what Boys don't get those.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yes, they fucking do Motherfucker, we also have urinary tract Exactly man.
Speaker 2:Do you fucking understand the pain?
Speaker 1:Oh, my boy, when he was four months old, was in hospital for a week with a urinary tract infection that nearly killed him.
Speaker 2:It is fucking insane how painful it is. I thought that I was dying, that there was something wrong. I was like because it doesn't feel it's not in your dick. Your dick is not sore. It's in the bottom of your abdomen and you're like what is happening? I think I'm actually dying, yeah, and you feel like someone has got a pipe cleaner all the way up into your bladder. It's fucking horrible.
Speaker 1:Nasty, but it's not only just caused by sexual stuff, though. Yes, I know. With my son, when he was four months old, he was constipated, and the constipation was enough to sort of leach through some toxins into the urinary tract and that caused it to happen, but it does.
Speaker 2:So yeah, boys can get it but yeah, my takeaway is people be safe though anyone can be into anything.
Speaker 2:If you want to come in people, let them come in. You Go for gold. You want them to come in your eyeball and get a red eye? Go for gold. Take a red eye flight somewhere. But at least Take a red eye flight. Just make sure that you go and get tested To make sure that You're not getting something extra that you don't want to get Talking about something extra that you don't want to get Talking about something extra, oh God.
Speaker 1:And onto that degrading nature of it, cockholding, yes, and how sometimes the husbands like the bull to come inside their wife, right, and then they go and suck it out Felching Is that it out? Felching? Is that felching? Felching Like that. Again, that duality pops up, right, because, like when the bull is coming inside the wife, it's like you're being completely emasculated, yes, like you're not virile enough to be able to come in your wife. So I'm going to fucking do it for you.
Speaker 1:Yes, right, virile enough to be able to come in your wife, so I'm gonna fucking do it for you. Yes, right. But then there's that part as well and this is where the duality comes in of like the, the husband's sucking it out of the wife. It's like, firstly, I'm being emasculated to the point where I've got to suck this guy's cum, right. But secondly, it's like I'm sucking this. Come out, because I'm about to put my load in there, because oh okay, right so it's like, it's like that is 100.
Speaker 2:yep, that duality of having being degraded but at the same time degrading. But like I'm, I'm actually taking your shit out, I can put my shit in there. So fuck you, I'm you, I am the alpha in this situation. Right now, in this moment, in that moment, in that moment only, you're acting as though you're not yes, but realistically you totally are yes.
Speaker 1:And the other thing as well. With that, the human body is actually set up to do that, to do that the way, the gland of the head is so.
Speaker 2:With that, the human body is actually set up to do that. To do that, yeah, the way the gland of the head is.
Speaker 1:The shape of the penis is actually designed to draw other person's cum out of the pussy or the tube or whatever it's in.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen a horse's dick? It's weird, it's shaped and it's like at the end it's like a fucking bell. Yeah, yeah, same thing, because if five stallions have tried to mate with a girl, a mare, the last one comes in there, sticks his dick in. It's the biggest one, number one, so it goes further. Number two it's pulling all the other come out so that he can be the top dog and he's babies.
Speaker 1:See, we're biologically designed to do shit with cum.
Speaker 2:But this thing is. I think a lot of shit comes down to being a biological reason for a lot of kinks, fetishes, but we put words on, we put labels like kinks and fetishes because it's not normal, because at some point in history we just couldn't handle any of that shit and had to be. No, this is what you do. You get married to a woman and you insert your penis and you come once and you have a baby and that's it yeah, of course, of course and it's like we start going back and realizing that all the shit that we do and like is not weird, it's biological.
Speaker 1:It's biological, like, for example, you said that you like to see cum and you like to see it go on or be around. Yep, right, and that will be directly linked, like the turn on, I'm guessing is directly linked to the volume of cum. Yes, okay, so less cum, less of a turn on, more cum, more of a turn on. More cum, more of a turn on. So like, if you get splattered like a fire hydrant, it's just sitting there going, yeah fuck. I'll take that.
Speaker 1:If you get splattered like a fire hydrant, it's just fucking hosed you. That's a real turn on. Why? Because biologically, we're sitting there going holy fuck, that person is so, so virile.
Speaker 2:They could fucking they could do the job. They can do the job. Right.
Speaker 1:Yes absolutely, and that's what I think a lot of it always comes back to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all of our fetches and kinks and stuff can come back to biology.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that that biology all serves the ego. I think the ego, I think the ego and sex is so fucking tied together. Yep, if you and this is where I think like single guys not single guys, but straight guys have a massive fucking problem with ego and sex, you can see the most masculine alpha dude yep, but he gets in the bedroom and crumbles because he's either got a smaller than average dick, he can't get it up, yeah, he can't come, but that's and right, but the thing is that ego, that ego, that he, that mach macho ego that he puts on outside of the bedroom.
Speaker 2:This is why he puts it on. Yeah, yeah. He puts it on because there's a. Let's just say it's a. I've got a smaller than average dick. Yeah, and I think it should be bigger. How many times have you seen people you know someone, a dude in a big car and the first thing you go ugh small dick.
Speaker 1:About an hour and a half when you turned up on my doorstep.
Speaker 2:Shut up, you dickhead. First of all, my car's not big, but it is loud. But the. Thing is. It's that idea that they are compensating for something else, which there's nothing more frustrating, let me tell you you don't understand, because you're a straight man, but there's nothing more frustrating. Let me tell you you don't understand because you're a straight man, but there's nothing more frustrating than have somebody talk up a big game.
Speaker 2:Not so much talking up I mean as in talking up a big game in their demeanor in the things they, and not in so much what they say physically, but what they portray, yeah, like, if I see a dude that was six foot eight and just has this, you know oozes him being, you know, just, he demands, commands a room when he walks in, I'd be like, yeah, like he's. If he's mine, he's going to dominate me, yeah. And then you get into the bedroom and they're like, they flip over. You're like what are you doing? Like, fuck me daddy. No, you're my daddy, I am not your daddy. I didn't come here looking to be a daddy.
Speaker 1:I wanted a daddy.
Speaker 2:I want to climb you. I don't want to be your backpack, backpack.
Speaker 1:Just imagine you're a backpack now. Oh fuck, I've got to get that made up. You can get like personalized back that I'm gonna get your face with like a little super sex thing. And you know what?
Speaker 3:we'll send one to daniel and nick if I can figure out how to do it we can get it done.
Speaker 1:Pit lord says hi oh fuck, that'll be hilarious.
Speaker 2:I like that. I like that idea that's great but yeah, um, I don't want to be a backpacker, I want to be, I want to be dominated. So, yeah, it's, it's horrible having that person portray one thing outside yeah, and then when you get into the bedroom, you're like dude, where is it? Yeah, because I again.
Speaker 1:Sex is like that last, like the real, true test of confidence, of personality.
Speaker 2:It's because there is nothing more vulnerable. Think about it, that's right, there's nothing more vulnerable than being naked in front of someone. Oh, totally. Nothing, absolutely nothing, because for someone to see all of you and I don't just mean your genitals. Just see all of you, all your insecurities. It's very vulnerable, right yeah, on top of that, the act of sex. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's like it's so performative in if you're a good shag, if you can make somebody come as a guy, you're like, oh, I'm the man, you are the walking God, right. But if you're, you know, limp and you can't make a girl come, that's directly tied to who you are as a person. It's not actually Exactly, but straight guys especially embody that so much, and I think when it comes to cum, that's a thing they need to do.
Speaker 2:I know In my head. If there's one thing I would like more about myself, is if I could be the person that had a shitload of cum that's hard. I would feel so much better about myself because I'm like that's tied to masculinity yeah yeah, whereas like oh well, I mean, it's one of the things I will. If I meet a dude, that's the thing that I think I will ask the question like do you have big loads? Because that's a question.
Speaker 2:It's a question 100 I will ask that question because I'm like that's a turn on for me. Yeah, not that it matters, it doesn't matter. If you don't have one, that's fine, that's cool. But it also for me it's a little bit of a the exact opposite for me. So if they ask me that and I'm like not really, then I kind of feel a little bit like oh shit, I feel a little bit small yeah, all right, I'm gonna ask a question about porn, two questions about porn, actually.
Speaker 1:with that in mind, if guys ego is so tied to the amount of cum that they can give, how masculine and virile they are with the amount of cum that they have, is porn becoming an issue because they're wanking off so much? Because you can't have a big load if you've wanked three times during a day.
Speaker 1:Yep, you can't have a big load really, unless you've been abstinent for a couple of days at least For a couple of days exactly yep, right, so if guys are falling back to porn daily, they're not going to have big loads, which is then therefore going to have a impact on how they see themselves as a man though that didn't see that which is I was pointing to myself Me, me, me.
Speaker 2:Yes, I can confirm Correct. Yes, yeah, 100%, yes, wow.
Speaker 1:It's interesting, it's interesting, it's interesting. It's interesting that, as a guy, we can tie a lot of our sense of self and masculinity To a fucking liquid, to a liquid or a bodily function. I mean, nobody sits there and goes, I'm a real man because I've taken a 12-inch shit.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:But look how much came out of me. I put five mil of sperm on your face. Now I'm a fucking man.
Speaker 2:But that thing is, you know again what people don't get again, as per same thing we've spoken about, we did the um, the size episode, diet guy sticks. The average is like a teaspoon. Yeah, that's average. The average is a teaspoon that what it? Is so if you have a teaspoon, you're normal. Yeah, absolutely. But the problem is again what do we do?
Speaker 1:Oh, porn, porn. And that was my next question Do you think that what we see in porn impacts our desire for these?
Speaker 2:sort of things. Absolutely, because I know when I'm watching I'm watching porn on my phone, whatever I'm watching it on, and I see 98% of guys that are coming on there have got these huge loads. It makes me believe. If 98% of people on here have got huge loads, there's something wrong with me for not having a huge load.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's normalized. You do know that 98 of it's not 98. I'm just yeah using your stat, most of those porn shots. They shoot the first rope of cum coming off and then it switches to a shot of cum on the person.
Speaker 2:Yep, it's not actually, and that's because it's been a cut in exactly somebody sprayed a whole heap of fake cum on the person, and then they continue, and then they continue exactly. So this is the part of the problem is that you believe that that is and the thing is, I can know that, but still, yeah, it affect me and go. Well, why don't I come?
Speaker 1:as much as that yeah, I still want to have it become I won't be able to shoot.
Speaker 2:I want to be able to throw ropes because apparently I'm not, and I want to because that's what everyone is doing in the poems that I'm watching. And then the thing is, if they're doing that, it's hotter and your bottom enjoys it more, because I know I'm the bottom and I enjoy it. Yeah, yeah it makes me feel like oh, it's almost like when I'm assuming girls would feel like this. You feel really good about yourself because it makes you feel accomplished, like oh yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, like you're sexually empowered.
Speaker 2:I'm sexually empowered because I made him come and he came so much. Yeah, he must be really attracted to me. It's it. It's so fucked up it really is.
Speaker 1:it's so fucked up Like cum fetishes are a really, really, really fucked up thing when you start thinking about it.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie to you this episode. When we decided we were going to do this, this episode, I did not see it going this way because I did not realize how much it's tied into. It's actually really fucking deep. It is so deep Like I'm just like oh yeah, come, I love come. Let's talk about gum all my days sex is so psychological this is. I cannot believe that something as simple as cum can be this psychologically charged and affect you so much. I didn't even realize it affected me that much yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That I almost feel a little bit emasculated Emasculated, no, not emasculated, like less masculine. Is that the same thing? That is the same thing, isn't it? Yeah, pretty much Okay. You just looked at me. He gave me that. Look like you, dumb fuck.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck you're talking about it makes me feel a little bit less masculine if I don't have a lot of cum. So, for example, like you're saying yeah, I watch a lot of porn, I might wank every single day. I'm not gonna have as much cum as I would have if I didn't wank for a week or two. So then I'm coming not seeing how I'm not seeing a big load because I'm doing it all the time, and then it's like oh, and then with the person I'm like, oh, shit.
Speaker 2:I hope they don't judge me because I don't have that much of a load.
Speaker 1:And then the cycle continues.
Speaker 2:It is fascinating, it's fucking fascinating, it is fascinating how much we tie our masculinity to that little drop of white fluid exactly. So let's move. So this is a good segue for me. I'm thinking to move on to the next one, which is, uh, cum dumping.
Speaker 1:Okay, so do you want to do cum dumping first or cream pies first?
Speaker 2:I want to do cum dumping just because my train of thought is talking about masculinity, yeah, so for me, the act of cum dumping is the exact opposite. It is being completely emasculated and being a quote unquote little bitch that's going to sit there and take as many loads as he can and you got these stags that are there like no, I'm gonna fuck you and I'm gonna fool you with my load. I feel so masculine yeah and this person is the submissive little bitch that's just going to take it.
Speaker 1:So okay, cum dumping is largely a queer practice. Yes, it is.
Speaker 2:Largely a queer practice, it most definitely is.
Speaker 1:It is done in heterosexual world as well, not as often, but just explain to people what a cum dumping scenario actually looks like, like what what is it?
Speaker 2:so, for example, let's just say I'll use, I'll say me, I haven't done this, people, I'm just saying so. Let's just say I hire a motel room, for example, yep, hi, motel room. Put an ad out there on whatever platform and go. I'm going to be ass up. Let's go face down on the bed at the such and such a hotel, such and such a room. Come in. All you need to do is literally walk in, fuck, come in me, leave, and then literally this so there's, there's a dude on X Twitter that I've seen and I did follow him, and he goes around the US.
Speaker 2:So he will actually travel around the US being a cum-dumb and he will go into a motel Guys in that area it puts like I don't know where he puts it out and he'll be like I'm in this area and it is fucking crazy how many dudes will go and he will literally just be there and like 10, so the one time like you and then he'll post how many guys came over and it'll be something crazy like 30, 40, 50 guys came over, so he's literally the entire day or the live he's there for a or two. He's just literally on all fours waiting for people to just walk in come and obviously it's anonymous.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So he's got maybe something on his head, but they can't see. They just walk in, come and leave. So obviously that's where come dumping comes from. That is fascinating, I thought you were going to say hot, it is fascinating.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously I'm sitting there thinking about my brain. Just goes to the safety aspect of that, like oh my gosh, you're such a square, yeah, Like can you imagine though?
Speaker 2:That is the last thing that came to my mind.
Speaker 1:Anybody that walks in there. It could be Jeffrey Dahmer and his best mate, fucking Ted Bundy, walks in there and just this is exactly it.
Speaker 2:But you put yourself in these situations because you-.
Speaker 1:Because sex is such a primal driver for what we do and who we are as people. Yeah, I, I get that and I get like the taboo risk and all that sort of stuff. There's so many ways to make that a lot safer, though of course, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean you could make it a lot safe in terms of okay, for example, you could make a group, yeah, you could vet people. So there are apps out there that you can actually make. I know there's like queer apps where you can do a group and say you're having a group session, you can say what's required. They have to join the group and the only way they can join it is if you, the person that's hosting, vets them and goes yes, I'm going to choose this one based on I've looked at their profile, I've spoken to them, whatever questions you might ask to make you feel comfortable yeah and then you go okay, cool, well, I've got 20 people coming on such a day.
Speaker 2:I've vetted them all. Um, I've checked to see, for example, they might have sent me their uh, their last, uh, what's it called? Sti check? Yep, so I know that they all should be safe and then go for gold. Yeah, but there's also again. I think this is more the risk, that's the turn on, that's the turn on than the cum dumping. Yeah, obviously, that has to be the main thing, but I reckon so there's a few different things going on. There's a few different things.
Speaker 1:That adds to that being hot for that person. Yeah, because I actually listened to a podcast where there was a few furries who organized a cum dumping session, and they pretty much did it like what you said. You know they said this is what's going to happen. I'm going to be here Head down, ass up, feel free to come and drop your load as many times as you want, basically, but in order to do that, you need to pass this test, this test, this test, this test, this test.
Speaker 1:you need to pass this test, this test, this test, this test this test and they also hired a bouncer who was at the door of that hotel room Right and they would check the like photo ID as well as the latest printed off version of the STI check.
Speaker 1:Okay, now that is Before they got in there, and there was also a person within the room who was watching for everything that was going on, to make sure everything was safe, to make sure that everything was absolutely 100% safe and look, you can make it that safe and that in an ideal world is great, but one.
Speaker 2:There's two issues when it comes to the men or men's ex. One you have a lot of guys that are closeted. Yeah, have a lot of guys that might be joining these cum dumps that have got girlfriends and and or wives yeah, so they're never going to be that open in providing, do you know, I mean like id, or I don't want you to know my name, I want this is supposed to, and the thing is, I think, for a lot of those kind of guys, the anonymity aspect of it is what is attracting them to it, because they can just go in.
Speaker 2:No one's going to see me. This dude's not going to even see my face yeah, I'm just going to walk in. I get to get my jollies off because I've got a wife at home, but I just want to fuck a dude. This is perfect for me. I can literally be driving to the store, stop at the motel, walk in, fuck some guy and then leave. Be done with it.
Speaker 2:And be done with it because, number one, it's the anonymity of it. Number two, it's me dominating another male. Yeah, and knowing that I just did that on my way to get the groceries, is it fucked up? Yes, it's fucked up, but does it happen?
Speaker 1:Absolutely it does, yeah, like it does, and it's like you've got anonymity within that moment, right? Yep, but I'm thinking like worst case scenario. You're the 50th of 50 guys. Yeah, you are literally putting your dick into 49 other loads of cum. Yes, and one other person yes, so you have got 50 other people's DNA All over you and potentially diseases. Yes, swimming all over your cock.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Think about the bottom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, think about the bottom, Exactly right. But like you might, have that anonymity in that moment, but like later on down the path it's-.
Speaker 2:Number 50,. You don't know. You're number 50. No, you might think I'm the second, I'm the first one, but you might be 150, so you got all of that, all of that's the love potion the love potion, everybody's other other white meat all over.
Speaker 1:But yeah but again, look, speaking from experience in terms of having I mean, you've everyone's had risky sex in some kind of way, whatever that, might look like to look, look like to you, but you're not thinking of safety no, generally you're not, because there's there's like a weird sort of between dick to head yeah, there's a cut off.
Speaker 2:We don't think when we horny. We don't think as men. Generally, I don't think, even when I'm not horny, there you go, exactly. But as men we don't really think of the shit that we do. I mean the amount of when I watched speaking of what's his name Jeffrey Dahmer. When I watched Jeffrey Dahmer, it freaked me the fuck out, cause I thought of every situation that I had been in meeting a guy and thought of how many times could have been like that could have been me.
Speaker 2:And I never, not once, kept myself safe enough. I would always be safe in terms of back in the day. I used to message one of my cousins and be like oh hey, just so you know, I'm going out this way, I'm going, I'm going to be dead by the time they find me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but at least they'll know where to find you.
Speaker 2:But at least they will, because my thing was, at least you'll know where to find me. But also going to people's houses I would never have thought about okay, so when I'm going to this person's house, if they offer me drink, don't, don't take it. To be fair, I have never taken a drink from somebody when I've gone to their house, because I kind of do think about that and also you get straight down to business exactly that's true.
Speaker 2:My, my one thing that I always do I mean I mean unconsciously, yeah is not meet with dudes that are bigger than me, and that's completely unconscious.
Speaker 3:You like dudes that are bigger than me, and that's completely unconscious.
Speaker 1:You like guys that are bigger than you.
Speaker 2:I like guys that are bigger than me, but I don't like meeting with a guy that I look at and I think is a lot more physically, that could physically dominate me in a way that if something went wrong, this person could hold me down.
Speaker 2:I can never get up. I always try and make sure that I have a little bit of okay. Now it's a bit different. I'm going a little bit skinny to go to the gym, but generally I would always make sure those guys that are my size in my head I probably couldn't fucking take them, but in my head I'm like you couldn't. In my head I'm like no't fucking take them, but in my head I'm like no, I could take you. I could definitely take you. So it's fine, I can meet you because I could take you, not even a little bit, no, you couldn't, you'd be in a fatal position in a corner.
Speaker 1:Leave me alone.
Speaker 2:But you're not taking my skin to wear this jacket.
Speaker 1:I don't rub the lotion on my skin it's not good, it's fucking terrible. It's like crispy leather isn't it?
Speaker 2:I like crispy skin no, but but seriously, I mean, and you know what I googled because it said something said oh, google in your town to see, see how many people in your town that have been bashed, for example. And I was like no one Googled. Two people in my suburb had been lured through Grindr and being bashed in the past two years At your house, Not in my house.
Speaker 1:Fuck you. Just imagine it. A man tried to assault me. It felt like I was being punched with marshmallows.
Speaker 2:You are such an arsehole. Hey, get fucked. I'll show you these marshmallows, just wait.
Speaker 1:That's the fisting episode, dude.
Speaker 2:Continue. Let's move on to.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's just an interesting thing that I came across as well, cum dumping Sense of community around it. Of course, it's like Some people go to concerts, some people go to school recitals. Other people go for a cum dump, absolutely, but I think there are like sense of communities around but also.
Speaker 2:You know what, though? There is a sense of community. Obviously, besides, besides the obvious, there's 30 people there with you.
Speaker 1:Sort of got to mingle.
Speaker 2:Exactly, but the idea that this is taboo. It's not something that every gay man's into. So there would be a sense of a little bit of a community. Because it's so niche let's use that word and taboo that people that are into it kind of would be a little bit, have their own little community.
Speaker 1:It's like oh, within the community, I found my other freaks.
Speaker 2:I found my within the freaks. I found the freakier freaks. Yeah, yeah, if that makes sense, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:And that's yeah, I get that and I see there's a sense of empowerment.
Speaker 2:then, with let's call them the receptacle. Okay, not the receptacle somebody's gonna have. There's a reddit name I am the receptacle.
Speaker 1:No, they're just gonna have, they're gonna they have a t-shirt in the back of the receptacle with an arrow. Everybody else is going. What you and I like fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he listens to the podcast.
Speaker 1:Um, like the idea of being that receptacle and being that one focal point for all of that community is sort of empowering as well, because you can see that you're bringing people together.
Speaker 2:I know you're trying so hard to be serious because it is serious, but you can't be serious, because it is serious, but you can't.
Speaker 1:You can't be serious.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm connecting people through my hole.
Speaker 1:Exactly right. It's like a Nokia phone.
Speaker 2:Connecting people. Oh my god, you're so fucking old.
Speaker 1:You're so old Facebook. Myspace Fuck, we're old, just imagine somebody's got a tattoo around their arsehole Called MySpace. Myspace Fuck, we're old. Just imagine somebody's got a tattoo around their asshole called MySpace.
Speaker 2:There are many people right now listening that are thinking Need that tattoo? No, what the fuck are they talking about Nokia? Why Connecting people?
Speaker 1:Well, you've got snake on it.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, batman goes into like little holes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and I think the final thing, cum dumping. I think there's like a real big crossover as well with that BDSM world. Yes, yes, I mean when you describe the guy that goes around little different states and on his all fours with a hood over his head or a mask over his head or whatever, there's a lot of visual imagery there that is parallel with the kink world. Absolutely, you could almost imagine this guy being hogtied and lying on a bed.
Speaker 2:I mean there is a huge crossover with Dom and Sub. Yeah, Because essentially the receptacle, as you so put it, is the Sub yeah. Right, absolutely I mean not every time and not in every single way, but there is connections.
Speaker 1:There's definite connections there. And I wonder as well, because if you're inviting 30, 40, 50, 60, 100 people to these things, you know there's going to be an element of pain to it. Of course there would be. You know there's going to be an element of pain to it, of course there would be. And if that's not enough to turn you off the idea, clearly there's got to be a part of it that's turning you on about that.
Speaker 2:Sorry guys, I'm going to tell you something, but you're not going to be able to see this. So the most I've had in one day is these many Ooh. Can I say no?
Speaker 1:you're day, is these many? Oh, can I say no, you're not going to say.
Speaker 2:Sorry, guys, these many right. And by this one I was like what the fuck am I doing? This is like okay, cool. It wasn't like what the fuck am I doing. It was like okay, cool, all, all, right, maybe this is enough, yeah. But then these ones were still on the way and I was like what the fuck? By this one, I was like I, this is a dumb thing to do, what am I doing? And by this one, I was like you were tapped out. I was tapped out and I was like yeah I was done.
Speaker 2:I was. I was in so much pain that it was no longer. No, I wasn't in so much pain. There was still an element of that. I enjoyed it, yeah, but I had to push through the pain to enjoy it.
Speaker 1:So I mean, and that number that you've just described wasn't a huge number.
Speaker 2:It's not a huge number. Sorry guys, I just don't want to tell you.
Speaker 1:It's not a huge number at all and you can imagine the people who are organizing to be cum dumps Are doing triple quadruple that number, triple quadruple, even more than that. Right, like 20 times that amount. Are doing triple quadruple that numbers, triple quadruple, even more than that. Right, like 20 times that amount. But basically, you, they must have played with that amount of people at least at some point, at some point, to be able to sit there and go. Okay, now it's a good idea to invite 50 guys around. Yes, they would have got the exact same experiences where they're like you know, no, this is painful, whatever.
Speaker 2:But like Maybe that might be part of the there might be a pain element to it. There might be a pain element to it that they enjoy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's almost like that submission. It's that mascalation. It could be just the sheer pain that they're enjoying.
Speaker 2:It's crazy how much goes into this. When you think it's just one little thing, oh, it's just a cum dump.
Speaker 1:No, there's so much more.
Speaker 2:It's never just a cum dump. It's never just about the cum dump, but what I love is for you guys that don't know, they'll also have a Sharpie. A Sharpie, they'll have a Sharpie, and on the dude's ass it'll have loads, and on the dude's ass it'll have loads. And then every dude that comes, he puts a, he puts a line for, so that you know how many loads they've been.
Speaker 2:So when you come, you sit there and you see, and a lot of guys like it, like they love the idea that it's sloppy seconds or sloppy 50th and they'll put their little thing there. So this guy's literally on his ass. He's got written on there how many loads he's taken. Your face right now is hilarious.
Speaker 1:Just imagine like I see just a blackboard, tally tick marks.
Speaker 2:It's a whiteboard, because he's a white guy Come on. Let's be honest You're, you're not gonna see, I can't say that you're gonna have to at some point I was gonna say what if it was a black guy? Would you see it? Oh wow, it's okay, guys, I'm gonna brought us I can say it yeah you, you're a brown man yourself If I said that. You know what? I feel, bad for saying it, regardless if I'm not going to get cancelled or not, I feel bad for saying that. But no, you can't say that.
Speaker 1:No, I can't, I can't say shit.
Speaker 2:Technically, your ass is probably black, with amounts of fucking hairs probably covering it.
Speaker 1:Nah, the white shines through. It's like putting paper towel around a light globe. Nah, the white shines through. It's like putting paper towel around the light globe.
Speaker 2:You still see the light, oh my God, shut up.
Speaker 1:Continue what. I'm a white man born in the north of England. I am going to have a white ass. I'm not. I feel like Actually hold on.
Speaker 2:I was about to say you. I was going to say you do, and I I'm like I don't think I've ever seen your ass.
Speaker 1:so I'm I'm assuming it is very, very wide. What do you mean? You haven't seen my ass when we went to get the tattoos? You totally see my ass oh shit, yeah, that's your ass.
Speaker 1:Hey, we haven't put that picture up yet. No, we haven't. We should totally do it. Um, but on that right, just stopping the episode, little sidebar, okay. Um, wife and I went she she'd taken a couple of days off and kid was at daycare. We're like, what should we do? I was like you know what let's for shits and giggles. We've never done it before. Go down to Swanbourne. No to speech. You did not. It's great. So anyway.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, how have you not told me this? Were you saving it for the podcast? No, we just totally forgot. No, no we forgot. It's dementia. Maybe he's born with it, maybe it's dementia it definitely is.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so, anyway, we get down there and the wife sort of she went through this nervous stage and she's like I don't know. Yep, I don't know about this. And then, by the time she gets it, she's like you know what cool yeah yeah, let's, let's fucking do this. So anyway, we get the bag, got all the towels in there and stuff. Beautiful day, 40 degrees, very hot, very still. We're not expecting that many people to be down the beach right and, as like swanborn, you go down the stairs and it's like all covered by bushes you can't really see the beach at
Speaker 1:all. All you're seeing is like trees, yep, staircase and beautiful blue ocean out in front of you. We're walking down, it's great, like yeah, this is going to be awesome. Get onto the beach, swanbourne beach like we don't know anything about it apart from the nudist beach. Is swanbourne beach? Yes, get down into the beach. We look left, people with clothes on. We look right, there's 15 000 fucking kids and we're like nobody's taking their clothes off today, why we sort of just like cruised along see this is why you were supposed to tell me well, this is what you were doing I've only just and so found out that you have to walk like 600 meters up the beach.
Speaker 2:But no, but this is your, this you. You are the problem in this situation.
Speaker 1:You know that I always go there.
Speaker 2:We're just snooping on you. You know I always go there. You should have messaged me and I would have said to you so what you do is you? You walk down, you see the people and the families and the dogs, Then you turn right and you walk Almost a fucking Kilometer and then the nude beach starts and it has a big sign Saying Nudist A clothes optional beach.
Speaker 1:Oh, it does have a sign.
Speaker 2:There's a sign that says Past. This point Is a clothes optional beach.
Speaker 1:Oh, see, that's really Handy to know Because, like I, was so close To just saying fuck it and getting me peck around. That would have been really awkward.
Speaker 2:Sherman, I tried to go to Swamp Bonds. I'm in jail. Can you please pick me up?
Speaker 1:Swamp Bonds and Nervous Beach goes.
Speaker 2:No, up there is, so you actually have to walk quite far, okay. It's quite a far walk to walk. And then there's a point where it says from this point onwards is a Clothing optional. Also, please do me a favor, and next time you go, please do definitely message me, just in case, so I can come and sit there. Witches on parade In your own microscope. Just in case that's the day, I'm also there there. That's why you're gonna message me and tell me oh my god, this is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1:We should have a super sex day out at the beach. At the beach at swanbourne. We can take our bucket and spade and our beach ball.
Speaker 2:I'm so disappointed because obviously you didn't. You didn't experience going on going on the beach nude. No, I mean, I didn't. I'm very upset because all I wanted to ask you is how fucking good does it feel to have the sun one on your balls and two on your cheeks?
Speaker 1:it feels fucking amazing like I've done a whole nudie bathing out the back, which is great, but it's just different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is especially when your neighbor keeps because your neighbor's gonna have to stop throwing shit over the fence gang put your fucking clothes on.
Speaker 2:Our fences are about three, four high as well so, please, okay, so try again, uh-huh and I'll walk a kilometer until you see the sign yeah, yeah, right, and just yes, please, I need you, and then you need to tell me how it was, because I feel like I need to know, because I think it's the most liberating, amazing you. You feel primal, because it's like you feel like this is what it's supposed to feel like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because when have you felt your cheeks getting tanned, apart from when my wife gives them a good smack, I was going to say your cheeks have never seen the sun Looking by the colour of it. They're glowing through my shorts. You're like a fucking clover. I am Firefly. You're a firefly. Okay.
Speaker 2:Back to the episode. What now we're talking about?
Speaker 1:we've done so we've done cum dumping. We've done why people are into it. I think the only other, like cream pies and cum dumping, there's a lot of similarities With cream pies. I think there's a visual aspect to it though, because obviously you know you can actually see inside the pussy or the ass.
Speaker 2:And it's leaking out. It's leaking out. That's kind of what you guys didn't understand. That's why it's called cream pie, because it comes leaking out of the orifice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think, again, it's degrading. Yes, but there's also that intimate nature about it, you know. Yeah, yeah, I think that's pretty much it. We covered it from a whole heap of different angles.
Speaker 2:I feel like that was actually a really fucking interesting episode, but before we do wrap it up, though, right? Um, I want to talk about how to increase the size of your load okay, I'm very happy that you brought this up, because now I have a question for you. Fuck, true or false, you can increase the size of your load I, I'd say true okay. So if you say true, how do we do that?
Speaker 1:all right. Firstly, hydration, right Right, basically, seminal fluid is mainly water. Yep, right, the whole point of seminal fluid is to give nutrition to sperm. Correct, so that leads into the next thing, which is nutrition.
Speaker 1:Your nutrition needs to be on point. If you are eating really fatty food, junk food, crappy food, your load is actually going to be smaller and it's not going to taste as good. Correct, fun fact that you have within your body is directly proportionate to how much load you have and the virility of that load, because you might have a big load but it might have no swimmers just remember to have off camera.
Speaker 1:We have gonna have a conversation about that point so you might have a big load with no swimmers that that can be caused by drugs, alcohol, smoking, dope does that pretty good, like it knocks your swimmers off pretty good. So does smoking and booze like heavy booze, but one of the things that can increase your testosterone heavy squats. On a dick, if you're squatting on a dick and you're doing a lot and maybe carrying a guy on your back, sure?
Speaker 2:well, threesomes. If you have a threesome, you got a guy on your hey, charlie jump on my shoulders.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to get a little bit of a workout in while I sit on Ben, but yeah, like there While I sit on. Ben, but yeah like there's some of the things that you can do so clean up your diet, get rid of the booze, get rid of drugs, More water hydrate. Yeah, get into the gym.
Speaker 2:Awesome and for those people, for the people on the internet, that let's just say you want a bigger load. You went on the internet and you saw that there's a tablet that you can take. Absolutely not, it doesn't work. It does not work. That's all bullshit. Just so you know, that is all crap. So if they're selling you a product that says you take this tablet and you'll be coming, you'll be shooting ropes. That's all bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and basically because it's a biological thing, yeah, the more production of sperm and seminal fluid that you're going to get is because you're healthier. Yes, so if you're leading a really fucking unhealthy lifestyle not getting enough sleep, not drinking enough water, not feeding your body the right stuff and then taking poisons on top of that you know it's not going to help you out. It's not going to help you out like it's.
Speaker 2:I don't know there's one other very quick fix what's that? Edging and or yeah, abstinence yeah so if you don't wang for two weeks, you will have a bigger load. Of course, if you edge yourself every, literally every day, or you're edging yourself the whole day, yeah you're engorging your penis, you, your brain's basically sending all of those fluids to the, the prostate, releasing everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you will come more yeah, and basically what your brain's telling you at that point is hey, we need to step up production.
Speaker 2:Exactly Because we're needing it, because with the sperms coming, we need to think, and then it doesn't. So then it's almost like backing up, yeah, backing up and backing up, and then, when you're about to explode, I mean that's the whole reason why people edge. Yeah. Because to explore that, I mean, that's the whole reason why people edge. Yeah, because at the end of it, the last release is the most intense. Of course, of course.
Speaker 1:But on that note though, for guys to stay healthy in terms of prostate, you need about 25 ejaculations a month, so realistically, you need to be having ejaculation every day or every other day?
Speaker 2:What? You're saying you're out here on these streets, basically saying everybody go have a wank. Go have a wank.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you understand how healthy I'm going to be?
Speaker 1:Dude, you'll never die from prostate cancer.
Speaker 2:Oh 100%, and if I do, I'm so fucking pissed You'll be coming back to me. The doctor ever says this. I'll be like listen, doc Jordan told me 25. So I doubled that number Every day and shit happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think like there's a healthy amount to it. Yep, three or four times a day is not going to be it. If you're coming loads, you're not going to have a huge.
Speaker 2:You're not going to have a big load, a big load.
Speaker 2:But yeah, if you want that, but also we've both forgot to mention something that we have to preface this with. There is nothing wrong with the size of whatever your load is, whether that be the guy that's got hypospermia and comes half a litre, or if you're the guy that comes a little dribble and doesn't. Also, if you're the guy that comes a little dribble and doesn't, what's it called? Also, if you don't squirt, if you're an oozer and not a squirter, same same. It doesn't make a difference, guys. It doesn't make you less of a man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it absolutely does not.
Speaker 2:It's what your body does and you need to accept it, and you need to be happy with that and be okay with it, because that's who you are.
Speaker 1:And you know what, like, we've got a friend who has told us that he can't come at all. Girls love it, because he can't come.
Speaker 1:Because he can't keep going. He just keeps on going and going and going. So, realistically, for most girls within hookup culture it's actually better if you don't come, because you can keep on going and going and going. So you know, it doesn't fucking matter, it's what you do, it's how you make them feel. That's actually the big thing. There are going to be the odd person out there that's really into that particular niche.
Speaker 2:That is a really good episode. That's it. That should be an episode Not coming. Yes. Edging not coming, edging, not coming, or if you physically can't.
Speaker 1:What else can we do?
Speaker 2:What can you do if you can't come?
Speaker 1:What can you do if you can't come that?
Speaker 2:sounds like a really good song.
Speaker 3:What you gonna do. Put it out to that P Diddy.
Speaker 2:Why are you gonna Wow? Why are you gonna bring P Diddy into this? You could definitely write a song about that shit. Fuck P Diddy, that bastard. On that note, we're gone. All right then. Peace outside. All right, Aloha.
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