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Supersex Reheated: Backdoor Basics

• Jordan Walker, Kate Campbell & Tarsh Wilson

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Big news first: we’ve been nominated for the Adult Industry Choice Awards and we’d love your vote. Then we roll up our sleeves and take on a fan favourite topic with clear eyes and zero shame: how to make anal sex safer, more comfortable, and actually pleasurable for both partners. Not the porn version—the real, practical, human version that respects consent and celebrates connection.

We start by unpacking why people are curious in the first place: new sensations, variety, and a level of intimacy that feels special rather than routine. From there, we get specific about preparation. You’ll hear how diet and fibre shape confidence and spontaneity, the right way to douche (and why less is often more), and the small choices—like skipping heavy booze and high-fat meals—that keep your gut calm. We share lube strategies that work in real bedrooms: when to choose water-based vs silicone, why spit isn’t a lubricant, the condom compatibility trap, and the simple trick to rehydrate water-based lubes on the fly.

Safety and pleasure come together when we talk toys and technique. We explain why anal toys must have a base, what “body-safe” actually means, and how to avoid porous materials that harbour bacteria. We cover starting sizes, building tolerance, and pacing that lets the body relax rather than brace. Most importantly, we model the kind of communication that turns anxiety into trust—quick check-ins, playful redirection, and pairing anal with the touch that already gets you off. Expect humour, straight talk, and honest admissions that take the pressure off and bring you closer.

If this conversation opens your mind or helps your bedroom feel kinder and more connected, tap follow, subscribe, and leave a review. Share it with a friend who needs better lube advice and vote for us via the link in the show notes—what tip surprised you most?


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SPEAKER_03:

Hey lovers, we are back! So for the radio silence, between Tasha and I, we've written more papers than Rupert Murdoch can sell. I've been launching a couple of businesses and waiting through NDIS registration. You know, boring admin. It's not an excuse, but it's just the vibe that we've all been under lately. Anyways, big news. Super Sex has been nominated for the Adult Industry Choice Awards in our very first year. If you actually care about this pod, please vote. You can vote up to three times a day via the link in the show notes. If you don't, my four-year-old will cry for the rest of eternity. And honestly, that's on you. Anyways, thank you. We love you. Let's go and win a shiny thing together. Okay, today's episode, we are reheating a fan favorite, anal sex. Why is it popular? Well, curiosity, variety, and big shocker, pleasure. Big surveys say that roughly one in three women have tried it. The bodies vary, but with prep, move, and communication, lots of folks actually enjoy it. And some even orgasm from it. Motives range from this seems fun to, oh, my partner's into it. And sometimes a little bit of pressure. Which is why consent is the bouncer at this backdoor club. Hmm. Like what I did then. Anyways, in this replay, we hit the basics comfort, hygiene, lube, slow as bro, and pairing it with the stuff that actually works for most folks. Alright. Anyways, hit play on this reheated episode. Toss us your questions for the next new episode, and don't forget to vote up to three times a day via the link below. Let's get into it. Can we do anal? Let's do anal. Let's do anal. Let's do this.

SPEAKER_01:

That's something that you never thought that you'd hear me ask. Look, um, in the 20-something years that we've been friends, I did not ever think, not once, I would ever hear you say those words to me. But look, here we are. We've got to do it, we've got to do it right though. Absolutely. But you know what? Let's ease on in. I'm sorry, I'm not even a dad.

SPEAKER_02:

But apparently I'm a daddy. You are a daddy. Oh god.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh.

SPEAKER_01:

Alright, let's get into the episode. Um, this week we're talking about anal, all things anal. Butt love. Butt love. Alright.

SPEAKER_02:

Ass fucking butt love. But love. Yeah. All of it. All of it. All of it. Backdoor banditry. Not backdoor banditry. You never heard of that one? I've never heard of that one in my life. I love it. But I might use it.

SPEAKER_03:

Where are you off to tonight, Chairman? I'm off for a bit of backdoor banditry. I'm a bit of a bandit, and this is what I'm gonna do with the backdoor. Oh, it sounds great. Right, where are we gonna start? I think we need to start talking about what it is. Sure. I think from the hetero side of things, as soon as the word anal is mentioned, it's dicking an ass as hard as you can. Living on it. Yep. I don't think it's all of those things.

SPEAKER_01:

No, definitely not. Okay, I want to I want to see. This is the thing is I've been excited about this episode because I want to know from a straight male perspective. Yeah. I think it's so interesting because gay is kind of a little bit obvious, and most people generally will at some point know about it or have gone, oh okay, cool, that's what they do.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But from a straight perspective, very interested in this one. Very interested. Why hetero people are into anal. I want I actually, yes, I want to know because at the end of the day, look, like we said before at some point, we were spoken about this, as a gay man, it's like not one of the only options, but if you're gonna have penetrative sex, it is the only real option. Yeah. You have other options. Yeah. So why? Not why, sorry, not why. More so what's the deal with it? What's the deal with it?

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. And this is why heteropolis are so complicated. Right. Yes, we have the other option. And most of the time that's that's where you're at, right? That's enough. For most people, that's most of the time where you're at. But but with anal, I think there's a lot of different things going on. So firstly, some people just like the physical sensation of it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, right. Speaking, can I just put it out there? Speaking from someone that actually has experienced both. Yeah. Yes, that's right. I'm a gay male, but I have had sex with a female before.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, this is a juicy thing.

SPEAKER_01:

This is a juicy thing, right? At the end of the day, it is it actually is a different sensation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Totally.

SPEAKER_01:

It feels totally different. Yeah. From what I can remember, obviously it was a long time ago, but it kind of felt like the only way I can explain it is if you put your dick into a cylinder, yeah, that's what a vagina feels like. It's it has walls, like it's pressure against your dick.

SPEAKER_03:

I describe it as like you put your dick into something that's like got a warm velvet glove around it. Exactly. And it's just like slowly massaging the whole length of your dick.

SPEAKER_01:

The whole length from top to from the top to the bottom. Yeah. With anal, it feels like if you had to take your two fingers and put it around your dick, that's what it feels like. It's something tight just at that beginning, and then it's just it's like you're pushing through like a ring.

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly. It's like you're pushing through a ring. And then the end of your cock goes into like outer space. You couldn't have explained it better.

SPEAKER_01:

The great abyss. The great abyss. The great unknown. That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, so there's a definite sensation difference there. Definite sensation difference. And I don't know about you, but I know when I'm having sex, I like a couple of different varieties to how things go. Anybody want some boring as vanilla? Literally. If you're just gonna have the same sensation over and over again. Nyucking anyone's yum, if that's what you're into, good for you. But like eating oatmeal every single day, it gets boring. You know? Absolutely. Sometimes you just want to put a bit of honey on your oatmeal. It puts put some fucking berries on that shit. There you go. Job done. Happy days. Some nuts in there too. Listen, if you can get your nuts in your oatmeal, then go nuts, go nuts for getting your nuts in your oatmeal. Oh god. So I think there's the physical sensation. I think there's the play with variety in there. Um I think there's an emotional intimacy to it where like for for a lot of women, that's like a very private thing that they give over to somebody who they want to spend time with. Yep. You know, and they want that's their almost like a last gift that they can give to a partner, right? Right. Um, so I feel as though there's that, so that builds that emotional intimacy, and then I think like we were talking before the episode starts, like the sense physical sensations and what you feel in there, like that builds a different emotional intimacy and different intimacy between your partners as well. Um I also think there's like that taboo nature of that was my first quote.

SPEAKER_01:

That's all I want to know. All I want to know is because to me, it feels like it's also the fact that it's something that you can't always get. No, and you can't always do it. Especially, I like you saying if if you're going by that idea that it is something that you know that a woman gifts to you, that's just not going to be something that happens on the first date. No, you don't get Christmas every day. Exactly. So more to the fact that you would not be getting that all the time. It'll be with when you have a partner that is comfortable enough with you to be able to want to try that with you.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Or you're just in such a brandy, let's fucking go mood that it's like I want to try something really different. Yeah. A bit different. You know, and sometimes you do experience that with a first-time partner, but it's so damn rare because most of the time there's that emotional connection that builds towards that highly intimate.

SPEAKER_01:

And also, especially if if if the female hasn't if there's something that they've never done before. Yeah. And also if you're not going up there very often, it's gonna take some work to get up there.

SPEAKER_03:

So I listened to a pelvic health doctor talk about this, and they were saying that if you're really super keen to explore anal play, you need to do like a whole month's work of prep by yourself first. Oh, yeah. Because it's like it's not just getting your ass to relax, it's actually like your brain sending signals to your ass. Yep. And your ass sending signals back up saying, hey, there's something in there, don't shit yourself. It's okay. I can just imagine like this wreck in there.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm literally as you're talking, I'm literally picturing two cartoons that arse talking. Have you ever seen those cartoons? The organs talking? It's the asshole talking to the brain, going, bruh, don't shit yourself. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

We need to make a cartoon of that. Can you draw? I can't. Mate, you can draw way better than I can. My stick men look anorexic.

SPEAKER_03:

I think that's the way it's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_01:

They look worse. Look, so my thing has always been I've always thought as a from a gay man looking in, looking at whenever I speak to a straight person about anal for some reason, that I've always thought the main reason behind it was taboo. Like my thing was always, why are you into this? Why do you want it so bad? And for me, whether they admitted it or not, my thing was always, well, to me, it just seems like you want to do it because it's something you can't have all the time. Does that because we always want what we can't have, right? Yeah. So I I that that but that's that's it's not my perspective, it's my what I'm seeing. Yeah. I'm gonna straight man I can't speak for you.

SPEAKER_03:

So I've done a lot of thinking around this, and there are guys out there that obviously love the taboo nature of it, right? Yep. But I think when you really, really break it down, it's not so much about the actual anal as it is about developing that really intense intimacy and connection, connection. Because like even the biggest moronic jock of a guy, he is still craving somebody that loves him more than anything else in the world. 100%. Right? For the most part, there are some fucking outliers to that, you know, but for the most part, people are wanting that super intimate connection, and there is nothing more intimate in a hetero relationship than hey, let's try this.

SPEAKER_01:

Look, I don't think there's anything more intimate in general, just sex is such an intimate act. Absolutely, and then on top of that, going that step further, there's levels to it, there's levels to it, and that going that step further, whether that means trying out a new thing or anal, 100%. It's that next level of connection.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and I feel as though people sit there and go, Oh, it's taboo, you just want it because you can't have it. But I think there's a deeper psychological thing there, and that deeper psychological. Look, I can admit I can admit when I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_01:

I can admit I'm wrong sometimes.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know if you're wrong.

SPEAKER_01:

Like I I think maybe we're just talking about like MMs and Maltesers. Yeah. I mean, who even compares those two things?

SPEAKER_00:

It's both chocolatey balls. MMs are just the bad chocolatey balls.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

They're on the same realm. This one's for the listeners. You guys need to put out a poll. Who's ever compared chocolatey balls? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01:

Not everybody has had chocolatey balls.

SPEAKER_03:

I have. I I've had chocolatey balls. I like the ones with the nuts. I was gonna say me too, but I don't know if we're talking about the same kind of we what we need to do is we need to get like that chef from South Park little song and just dub this right in here for a couple of minutes. His name is Chef, right? Yeah, Chef. Chef.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like, oh my job. Okay, it's all deball.

SPEAKER_01:

Look, but like I say, I'm I can admit when I'm wrong. Well, not wrong, but I did think that that was probably the main reason.

SPEAKER_03:

I think there's another reason now though. I don't know how many times a week you click onto Pornhub, but literally I don't use Pornhub.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't use Pornhub. I don't use Pornhub. Guess what? Guess what I use? What? Twitter, bro. Twitter? Twitter. Hey, it's X. Sorry, I use X. X. X seems a bit more appropriate. Exactly. Look, X is the new Pornhub. I actually don't even know when's the last time I opened up my internet browser to look at porn.

SPEAKER_03:

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm. Some crazy shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Just writing down a note to download X. Create a little thing there. And super sex is going on X as well. You'll see our chocolate salty balls everywhere. But like Okay, so every time you log on to Pornhub or to X, as it were, you're bombarded with anal.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, for sure. Oh well, wait, hold on. Yes, obviously mine is that's what I mean what you're looking at, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

But like from a hetero side of things, it's like that's every scene has got an anal clip in it. And I don't think that's fully representative of what's happening in bedrooms.

SPEAKER_01:

But that's the problem with just science in society in general, is that younger kids, especially young kids, that think that porn is real life.

SPEAKER_03:

No, no, that's just not real.

SPEAKER_01:

That's bullshit.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And there's even some adults, grown-ass adults, that think that that like exactly what you're I'm assuming your point is is that people see this on porn and go, well, this is something we need to do.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. And that five-foot girl is just straight up bent over and taking a 12-inch cog straight up her ass. Exactly. Straight away. Straight away. No prep. No lube, no lube, no prep, no nothing. It's just bang. Oh, just go straight in there. Yeah, that's a problem. You know. But people are seeing all this stuff. Porn. And they are going, that's completely normal. Like it happens all the time. Every sex scene has got anal in there. And it's like, there's this happening, there's that happening. But it's not. Because I think Kinsey Institute did a um study and they came out with like 35% or 40% of people actually have anal sex or have had anal sex at one point in their life. So that's like only 40%.

SPEAKER_01:

Max. I mean, to be fair, I'll be honest, I think that I didn't realise in my mind that's a lot because I thought that that's trade people did a lot less. You thought it would be a lot less? I thought it would be a lot less, to be honest. Like I did not think that your people are doing it that much.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01:

Your people are kinky. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. You guys are trying to come for us. Hetero people are the biggest ass fuckers ever.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright.

SPEAKER_01:

Where are fucking more asses than gay people are? Look, I don't know about that one, but I will say though, that there is a little bit of a um perception that being gay automatically means anal sex. Which it doesn't. Which it doesn't, because there are a lot of people, a lot of gay men that are not into anal. They are sides, which I'm not gonna lie to you. I feel terrible even admitting this, but as a gay man, I only uh found that out, like that term out not that long ago.

SPEAKER_03:

So hang on a second, you're throwing shame at me for Twinkies.

SPEAKER_00:

Twinks, not Twinkies.

SPEAKER_03:

Twinkies is what you eat.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, hey, look, depending on who you are, you can still eat a twinkie. Yes, the shame from the last episode of Jordan not knowing what a twink was. Um but no, I I figure I realize at some point in the past year or two, but it's because it's not something I'm into, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And because shakara, I can't believe we're gonna say this on this podcast, but anyway. Look, it's a podcast about sex, so hey, you get to know us a little bit more. Done. I don't I'm gonna have my gay card revoked for this. I don't like it, I don't like Aurel. Oh, what? Exactly. Receiving both.

SPEAKER_03:

Whoa! Look, I get no I get it.

SPEAKER_01:

I get it. I get it. I don't this is the thing is I don't mind receiving it if you know what you're doing. Like if you uh you got some PhD shit on on giving here, then I'm all about it. Go for gold. But generally, to me, for me, just for me only, it is a precursor to anal sex. Okay, yeah, so it's it's it's my foreplay. Yeah, I'll do this, I'm gonna do this so that you can get ready, you can get hard. You're gonna do it to me so I can get hard and we can go for it. Yeah, but to me, it's not a oh, we're gonna meet up, we're gonna do our all, and that's it. Like I'm not into that. It's a spring roll to you, pad tie, that's what you're saying. A man brother. Okay, that is exactly it. Alright. So the pad tie is the anal sex. Yes. Alright. So for me, because of that, I've never really known about the whole side thing movement, because it's not what I've ever really been into. If I'm gonna do it, I want I want everything, I want all of it. But I have come to realize, like going on Grinder, for example, yeah, the amount of dudes that are on there that will say, because you can choose what you want, if you're top, bottom side, whatever verse, whatever you're into, and the amount of guys that are just that have that are sides is it's amazing. I didn't realize that there were that many people that were only into that weren't into any anal play at all.

SPEAKER_03:

And it it makes complete sense though, because when you think about it, the ass is a really sensitive area. Of course. There are so many muscles, there are so many nerve endings in there, the tissue is so thin and also like just number one preparation, getting prepped for it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, hurrah. I can tell you what, I am so for those that want to know, not that anyone's asking, but I'm verse, so I double in both ends in both sides of the coin. And it is so much work to get prepared to bottom. Yeah, that uh for those that don't know what bottom is, bottoming is the person that is receiving, and the top is someone that is um giving, giving, penetrating. So, like if I'm going to bottom and I have to prepare myself, which goes into preparation, so douching, sitting there for anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour if you're doing like you're doing it wrong, which sometimes you do. Yeah, but that preparation, number one, just takes the excitement out of everything. And secondly, it's just so much work that I'm just like, you know what? The same for me. I don't want to do this. Yeah. So I can understand why there are might be a lot of people that might not want to be. I'm sure there's a lot more reasons as to why they don't want to, but I can understand if that's one of the reasons why they wouldn't want to always just go straight into anal sex.

SPEAKER_03:

Because I think I think that's like the major thing that every sex or gender struggles with with anal. It's like, hey, if I do this, poop could come out, and that could be really embarrassing and could be a bit messy.

SPEAKER_01:

At the end of the day, we all need to understand something, and people need to stop being su uh such babies about this. Shit happens. Literally, literally, shit happens. If you're gonna play in the candy store for long enough, you might get some chocolate. You might leave it some chocolate, is all I'm saying. You need to understand that if you are playing in there, there's a possibility it could happen, and we need to normalize the fact that that is a possibility. Don't shame the person for that happening because at the end of the day, if you want to be playing up there, it's a possibility. It's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03:

And like for hetero people as well, like we mix around with so many bodily fluids. Yep. What's another one? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, hey, it is what it is. There's yeah, it's at the end of the day, like, okay, fair enough. An accident will happen. What's the worst that could happen? You go take a shower, clean, wash off, you're good to go. Just like a set of white wet wipes next to the bed. Exactly. Just like and also the thing is once you get into a a routine of coming from personal experience, once you get into a routine of um douching, you know your body. Yeah, you know it works for you, you know when. Also, if you feel like you're not ready to do it, just don't do it. Like if your body's giving you signs that you know what, I had curry yesterday and then Mexican before that, maybe you just don't do it because you're gonna be sitting there and douching for the next three hours and you're still not going to be clean enough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So let's jump on that though, because diet is a massive thing with it. Yes, big time. So we know that spicy foods, alcohol, yes, um, fatty foods, um, there are certain types of fibre that are gonna cause things to move a lot more, certain types of vegetables that are gonna bloat you and aggravate. So there's a specific diet that you can have that's gonna make it easier for you to do this spontaneously. And depending on who you talk to or who you read or listen to, they can advocate that your diet can 90% get you to a point where you don't even need to douche. Oh, 100%. Right? Like if you're doing the right things and having the right movements and the right enough amount of fiber, the right fiber.

SPEAKER_01:

That's right. Well, a lot of people talk about um, I mean, I haven't personally tried it. They used to do the these tablets that you could take, which, as far as I'm concerned, my own opinion, I might be wrong, but for me it's just hold of bullshit. But taking, for example, metamucil every day, apparently that helps. Okay. Uh cilium husk. So psyllium husk, if you have psyllium husk within like your um your uh breakfast or in a drink in the morning, whatever, that helps. Yeah. Um, but yeah, diet can play such a big part in making sure that you don't have to be douching all the time.

SPEAKER_03:

So you can make it a bit more spontaneous, like if you know that your guts are feeling good, you know that you had movement earlier on in the day, everything's pretty much clean now, ready to go, you've got a lot more confidence in saying, hey, I can do this.

SPEAKER_01:

Because at the end of the day, you know what the worst part about I have to say about being a gay man, the worst part about anal sex is the lack of spontaneity, spontaneity, spontaneity. Yeah, like you can't just go, oh, hey, let's just do it. It it sucks, it genuinely sucks because it's like, oh, oh, you know what we should do. We should okay, give me 45 minutes to an hour and I'll be ready.

SPEAKER_03:

And it just takes it out of it, you know what I mean? I can just imagine meeting somebody at a club, like having some hot makeout session, getting back in the taxi, like hands going everywhere, come straight home. Okay, you go and doom scroll for an hour while I go and clean myself out. Well, that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_01:

But you know, they are there are bottoms up, they're like dedicated bottoms that will go out and they will not eat. Like if they know they're going on a date, for example, and they're hoping for something to happen. Correct me if I'm wrong, people here, but I've heard of people that will not eat for hours before, or they have techniques of what they will do. So, like, for example, eating something in particular that is like some a certain colour so that when they are douching that they know that once they've hit that, that was the last thing they ate. So once that comes out, they're Gucci.

SPEAKER_04:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, this is the this is what you don't understand about my community with my friend. Oh, it takes a lot of work. They're like colour-coding shit now.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly, literally colour coding shit.

SPEAKER_01:

You funny man. But that's it. It's like so. I've I've heard of people that will go on dates, not eat anything, and or go out, for example, to the club, haven't eaten the whole day, obviously douche, but to make sure like they'll go out, they won't eat anything while they're out because they're hoping something's gonna happen and they can be prepared, ready to go all night. And that's not healthy.

SPEAKER_03:

No, that's not healthy at all. I'm just thinking, like, as soon as that alcohol hits your stomach, bang. And that's another thing, like, and then you get into messy territory.

SPEAKER_01:

You're getting you're getting very, very messy because there's nothing in your stomach that alcohol is hitting straight.

SPEAKER_03:

And then, like, if you go too far with your booze, it becomes like consent issues and exactly. So, I mean, look, there's so many facets to this, it's crazy. Alright, so diet is one thing, lots of fibre, lots of like lean meats, let's call it. Um, red meat apparently is a no-go. Oh, it's high in fat.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so but look, I at the moment that's a good something good to know because like I at the moment I'm trying a low-fat diet. Um there you go, you'll be ready to go sponsor. Well, to and the reason I'm I'm doing it is because I don't really don't have a choice. I had operation and I had I don't have a call bladder anymore, so I have to not have high fat food. So there's something to yeah, that's a actually that is a big part of again. Why am I bringing this up on this podcast for my personal life, but it has messed with bottoming. Yeah. Because fats fats, like if I eat anything fatty, I'm running to the toilet. So well, you gotta think about it, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Like you put a slab of butter into a pan, turn it up, you move that pan around, hit the butter just slip and slide everywhere. Yep. You know, your guts are pretty warm, fat warms up, things slide through.

SPEAKER_01:

I have never ever thought about it that that way.

SPEAKER_03:

See, there you go. Come to Uncle Jay.

SPEAKER_02:

Look at you teaching me like this, Uncle Jay.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm not your daddy. As we said we in the last podcast, I am the daddy, apparently.

SPEAKER_03:

Not too much. I love it. All right, so douching, I want to get into a little bit about. Um douching, I have heard some good things about and some pretty rough stuff about, and even some more nuanced stuff. Like don't just use regular water because regular water will dry you out and make everything even worse. And then I've heard some people go too far up with the douche, and some people go too shallow with the douche, and yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Let's walk through this. So apparently, all you need is around, I think it's like 10 to 20 milliliters of water. Because at the end of the day, what happens is so your anus, okay. I'm not a doctor here, guys, but this is just from what I've got.

SPEAKER_03:

Definitely not medical advice.

SPEAKER_01:

Not not definitely not medical advice, disclaimer. Um, the anus is not that big. So the section where you are going to be having the fun is not that big. It's like three to six between three to not even more than I don't even think it's six inches, like three to four inches of where you're going to be playing in. Yeah. And that's all you need to clean out. Because what happens is if you put too much liquid in there, it goes to around the bend. Which I I was trying to explain to this to John before, but I can't remember what it was called. I think it's called the sigm bend or something like that. I feel like such an idiot right now. But anyway, where it bends, and that's where your the stool is actually stored. It's not stored in your anus itself. So if you put too much water, so all you need to do is put enough water into the anus so that you're flushing it out. You put too much water, it's going up into your up into your intestines, and that's just going to aggravate and just bring more down, and that ends up being a 45 minute to an hour situation. So that's when the brain starts sending signals. Exactly. Hey. Release, release, release. Release, release, release. Exactly. And that's when a real shit shut will happen. Exactly. So you only need a small amount of water. Again, so not cold water because that's bad for your your insides. Yep. Not water that's too hot. Yes. Because obviously that's not going to be good. You don't want to burn yourself. You just want lukewarm water that is not going too far up, that you're just cleaning out that area that's there. Look, at the end of the day, if you want to get into more kinkier play. Like the deep penetration stuff. Deep, very deep penetration, or you know that your partner or the person you're going to meet up with is highly blessed, then maybe you need to think about, you know, go maybe you're going to have to sit there for that 45 minutes, which I know apparently is not good. Yeah. Yeah. But have I been there? Absolutely. I've I've had to do that sometimes, and it's not fun. But if you know that you're going to be playing for a long period of time or with somebody a little bit bigger or more pen deeper penetration, then yes. But generally, you don't need that much water to get up there.

SPEAKER_03:

And specific water, I think they're starting to make like different sachets now that you can actually put in your douche.

SPEAKER_01:

So you can, yes, saline solution. So you can get the actual douches that are ready to go. Yeah. That um I think it's more medical than for they're not that I don't think they designed it for people doing anal sex. But yes, you can put the water in there to dispose of one, put it up there, squeeze, and it goes. Yeah. Personally, I don't have that. I just have one that I've bought off the um online. Yeah. And I use tap water. Haven't had any problems so far. Haven't had any problems. Look, there's moments where you are a little bit irritated, and who knows, it might be from that. Yeah. But generally speaking, I just use tap water.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, okay. Alright. So there's something definitely that people could look into if they want to go further down that. The other question I had, you're putting something up your backside straight out. Lube. This is okay. It's not just like a case of just getting this dry plastic thing and shoving it straight out.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. A stray people, lube, lube, lube. Yeah. It's a thing. All the way. When you think you don't, you do. If you are gonna be playing in that area, look, the vagina, self-lubricating. It's true. Right? Like I say, I don't have a lot of experience. I have some, but do you agree? Sometimes you might not need lube when it comes to a vagina.

SPEAKER_03:

Sometimes not, no.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. More times? More times, yes. Okay. But when it comes to the um anus, you yes, you 100% need lube, but also more, moreover, you need a lot of lube.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Because especially you can never have too much.

SPEAKER_01:

You can never have too much. Because at the end of the day, you also need to remember, depending on who you're doing with, if it's if this is for you know, male and female, you need to remember that nothing goes, it's not like something like stuff goes there all the time. You are going to need to prepare, you're gonna need to take it slow, you're gonna need to warm the area up a little bit first, and you are going to need lube. There's nothing worse than this. Okay, now I'm gonna say something, and I might get myself into trouble here, but I feel like straight men. Uh-huh. You're full of shit. Because I can guarantee you that if it was the other way around and the female was gonna stick something up you, you would all of a sudden realize how much lube you need and would have lube ready on on tap. I don't care what you say, that is my that that is my truth. I believe it.

SPEAKER_03:

You I I think that she'd have a hard time getting the lube because I'll be wrapped around the fan.

SPEAKER_01:

But do you not agree? Do you not agree that if it was turned around, it would be that straight men would be like, okay, well, I'll always make sure that I have lube because I don't want this to at it hurts. Yeah. It's not fun at first, it's lots of fun afterwards. But if it was the other way around, I can guarantee you men would be a lot more thoughtful of making sure we have lube and not just using spit. Please do not use spit. No, spit's not a lube. Spit is not a lube. Can it get can it get you there? Hey, if you're in a situation, if you're in a in a sticky situation, then maybe a little bit, but please no.

SPEAKER_03:

It's sort of like wrapping, you know, a hose reel around a worn-out wheel instead of putting a proper tire on the fucking thing. I love I love your analogies. They're just the best. It's like it's not great. It might work a little bit, but it's gonna break down pretty quickly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

There's gonna be a point where it's it's just it's gonna fail.

SPEAKER_03:

And the thing is as well, so I'll get onto this with what we're talking about, but a lot of people see this in porn where a guy looks like he's got a pretty dried dick and he spits on it and shoves it straight up an ass. Yep. Most of the time, the dick has already been pre-lubricated with a hell of a lot of water-based lube that they let dry out because the molecules don't actually go away, they just dehydrate in water-based lubes. That's why it goes dry. Dry. So when you spit on it, you rehydrate the molecules and suddenly it's got lube. Oh, yeah. Right? So in porn, it's a clever trick that they actually do re-well, they're rehydrating a lubricant that's already on there.

SPEAKER_01:

Look at Uncle Jay teaching me things. Like, bruh, I this is the first time I've ever heard this, and also I have legit watched porn and thought, how is it? It's dry. How is it going in there?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's that's what they're doing. Now I know. And the other thing, like, with lube, if you are playing with water-based lube, whether you're sort of an ASA or a fanny or whatever it is, um if you're using water-based lube and it goes dry, spray bottle of water.

SPEAKER_01:

Save you a ton of money on lube's. Just sitting there with your little spray bottle. I just I'm I'm having a visual right now of me. And I would absolutely 100% if I was topping and the dude was like, just hold on, and got a spray bottle of water and just squirted on my dick. I would I would lose my shit. I would piss myself laughing. I would stop and be like, bro, just wait, no, hold on. This is some funny shit.

SPEAKER_03:

It's like somebody doing like gardening.

SPEAKER_01:

It's got enough water now. Let's go. That is hilarious. But that's a that's a good tip. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jordan. Yeah, appreciate that one.

SPEAKER_03:

By tuning into the$3 worth of electricity it's cost us to do this, we'd probably save people$50 on.

SPEAKER_01:

Look, we could we could say we've saved people a lot of money out there. So people don't buy a new lube, just buy a spray bottle of Timu. They're probably like$2 each. Yeah. Filled it with some water, filtered water if you if you're nasty, and just spray that shit.

SPEAKER_03:

If you buy not on Timu, you might need to buy like 20 of them because it might break one-time use. Let's be fair. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Right. Yeah, let's talk about the slippery stuff though. Lubes. Lubes. Lubs are very, very important.

SPEAKER_01:

Lubes are very important. I particularly like um for anal play silicone lube because silicone lube lasts a long time. Um also look, if you're into playing in water, you've been into playing in the shower. Silicon works. Silicon works because it's not gonna, it's not gonna wash away, it's not gonna dry up. It's there. So if you want to be playing in in watery situations, whatever that might mean for you, yeah, you can. It's versatile, but also and also you do you you lose you use less. Yeah, you do. It's far more effective. It's a lot more effective. The only problem is your sheets. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Depending on the lube, depending on the lube, like full disclosure, not sponsorship, nobody's getting anything out of this. Uber lube.

SPEAKER_01:

Can I just tell you something? I'm so happy you said that. So I remember maybe when I was living in Canada when I wasn't living telling everybody where he lives. So when I was living in a different place, I went to a um was literally around the corner, right? I went to this uh sex shop. Yeah. Didn't have lube. So I said to the dude, oh like sex shop doesn't have loop? No, I didn't have any loop. Okay. So I got there and I said to the dude, hey, can you please like recommend me something? And he's like, try this, it'll expensive, but it is the best thing. And he gives me this tiny little fucking glass bottle with the smallest little nozzle, and I'm like, I just paid something like$40 for something like what 50, not even 50 mils, like 30 mils. I'm like, this shit better be good. Oh, that was the reason why I started using silicone-based lube was because of Uber Lube.

SPEAKER_03:

Uber Lube is so good. So getting off topic here, but I went to a how am I gonna say this? It was a sex toy professional development workshop. Mm-hmm. Um Yeah, because obviously I need to be able to talk to people about sex toys and how they use. But they brought out Uber Loop, and that was my introduction to it. And they brought this Uber loop out at about 11 o'clock, and the girl's like, hey, just put a little bit of this on your fingers, and just your fingertips and between your thumb and your index finger, and just play with it. See how long that lasts. That was 11 o'clock. By five o'clock when I walked out of that PD. You were still playing with your fingers? I was still doing Jordan walking around. I must have looked like some free. Such an idiot. Like, for so that's like six hours that this stuff is still on my skin. And it creates like an extra sort of barrier to there, and the silicon works in a different way, but silicon is absolutely awesome until you start playing with condoms.

SPEAKER_01:

Because silicon and condoms don't mix together. Do not mix together, people don't do it. Look, again, so personal experience, I it is painful. Being on the receiving end, so being on the receiving end, when you used you've used um some silicon-based lube, persons put their condom on, they start going for gold, it is uncomfortable. Yeah. And for a long time I didn't understand what why until I realized, oh shit, it's actually it's the I first of all I thought it was the condom. Yeah. I'm like, well, I don't want to use them because why? This this is hurting. Yeah. Then I realized it's did a little like three seconds worth of research, which I wish I'd done before. Yeah. They just don't mix. What's a blaze? Water-based lubes and condoms. No way. That's fine with silicone and um condoms, you don't do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Like I did this experiment with my kids at school. I got a whole heap of silicon lube and put into a condom and put a whole heap of water-based lube in the condom. And I got them to massage it for like half hour. Within five minutes, the silicon-based lube had just completely destroyed the condom. Right the condom.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's another coming from your perspective, from the um heterose perspective. I mean, the whole point of you using a condom is for to protect you. Yeah. And if that thing is just disintegrating into nothing, there's no point in using it. And that's the thing, is a lot, I don't I don't think a lot of people know or realize that you have to use water-based loops with condoms.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Water-based loops, it's the only way to do it. Yep. Um, and not all water-based loops are the same. So they're like there are thicker ones that provide a little bit more cushion, there's like really pissy thin ones that are not great and dry out super quick. So water-based loops are like one of those ones that you've got to really figure out on a personal thing.

SPEAKER_01:

What which one works best for you?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and especially more so for females as well, um, because different water-based lubes they are cholesterolin-based, which is basically sugar. Yep. And if you're putting sugar into a vagina, that's gonna ruin pH. So it's gonna cause thrush and different infections and blah blah blah. So, like, you've got to get a good lube, right? But who thought there's so much to sex? Man, it's like a real science. It's almost like a science. This is sort of like why I sign up to do like a sexual science course at uni. This is the currently what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_01:

We're gonna bring that up in a in a uh another episode. Uh, we're gonna have to go into that one.

SPEAKER_03:

What why I'm studying Masters of the City.

SPEAKER_01:

Not just why, I I'm very intrigued to know what the hell is it? So, and and it's a further um episode down the road. We're gonna get that one. We're gonna ask Jordan. I'm gonna ask Jordan all the hard questions. The hard questions, not the hard questions, child.

SPEAKER_03:

We've got to build up to that foreplay, right? This is just the foreplay, just wait. Alright. So, lube. Here's something I've learned as well. Lube is best not just put on the outside, but also inside. Because you are correct. Your penis goes inside, you are 100% correct, and if that's lubricated inside, it feels good.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, there's a point where I'm gonna feel really uncomfortable with people listening to this and knowing all the shit that I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01:

But look, as long as my parents don't listen to this, I'm fine. But yes, I that's exactly what I do. Yeah, fun fact. I I will make sure that there is a little bit in there too. Because it common sense, yeah. You know, yes, yes, you it's helping you get in there so it's not painful, but also once you're in there, you also need some lubrication, it needs to be slippery. So, yes, I 100% do that. Lube on the inside, lube on the outside, and also lube on them.

SPEAKER_03:

Lube on them.

SPEAKER_01:

That's the thing that just bugs me. So it's like a menage toire of lube. Exactly. In out you. Yeah, yeah. Three. It's gotta be a three-way. They've gotta be a three-way. They have to put some on there because bruh. Yeah, you can't just be like a finger or a toy though. Absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Now that I've said toys, I want to talk about toys. I knew you gotta go there. Go on. Toys. Right. Not all created the fuck insane.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't like them. Don't like them. Don't like them. Maybe because they haven't found the right ones, but generally, don't use them.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright. Okay, so there is a difference between a butt toy and a vaginal toy.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what's funny is that I just love that it is a straight male. You know this. Of course I know this shit. No, because I'm laughing because I there was a comment made within my life. I'm trying so hard to be like stealthy here. But um, yeah, there's straight two straight people made comments about Oh, don't you just go onto the the woman section when you go on to uh I'm like, no, why would I go onto the woman section if I'm going onto a um thing website? I'm gonna go to the gay section. Yeah. And the comment literally was they're the same. You're just both gonna get dildos.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, no, they're very different, very different, created differently.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, so and a big difference is there's a base. There's a base. Yep. Um the other thing, like so without a base, without a tracks, the ass is directly connected to the mouth. There's a tube that runs the whole way up, it goes through a couple of different bands. But yeah, like if you put something up there and it doesn't have a way to be held on to, it's going up and you might not be able to get it back.

SPEAKER_01:

Look, do some research, just do some research on Google and just Google how many people got are in the ED with stuff up their ass.

SPEAKER_03:

I need to tell you this story. I think I've told you this story before, but I'm not sure. I'm scared. So I used to notice a nurse, and she was telling me about one of the funniest stories that they used to have in the emergency department. And basically, a guy came up with a butternut pumpkin in his backside. Oh god. Again, without a base, without a trace, right? It went all the way in there. Now, apparently they had to get every doctor to come around to have a look and see how possibly to get this thing out. Right. Because like once the ass closes, it's sort of it's closed. It's closed at locks. It's not opening. No, it's very it's like lock jaw. Lock ass like a pit bull. Your ass is like a pit bull. Less teeth, I hope. Oh god. Um, but anyway, they had to sort of drill into it and put a small device in there which basically imploded the pumpkin and allowed the rectum to squish it down and pull it out. Pull it out.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that sounds painful.

SPEAKER_03:

So, like, yeah, it gets ri it gets really, really bad really quickly if you put things in your backside that don't have explicit. And then there's like there's another one I read just last week. A person went for an MRI with a butt plug, which was supposedly 100% silicon. And they went, Oh, I'll go for an MRI wearing a butt plug, which is 100% silicon. Don't worry. As soon as it got turned on, the magnets ripped it all the way up and through the person's body. Because 100% silicon only refers to what it's made from the excess. What's facing. But butt plugs are supposed to be heavy, so they need metal in there.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, the metal in it. Oh my god, that is that just gave me some serious city disturbing images. Horrendous. But yeah, okay, so toys are something that I really want to get onto because it's a bit of a bugbear of mine. Um never put anything in your ass that doesn't have a base, but the other thing is never put anything in your ass that's not supposed to be there. And what I mean by that materials.

SPEAKER_00:

Someone argue the things that I think are online aren't supposed to be there. I just haven't tried it.

SPEAKER_03:

Um but it comes down to the materials, right? So glass and metals supposed to be there. Um, well, they're supposed to be used in there because they're a non-porous surface where bacteria can't get in there. Correct. The biggest problem comes when it's silicon, right? Right? Which is what most toys are made from. Most toys are made from silicon, but there's differences in silicon. Like, have you ever opened a dildo and smelt it? Yes. And it smells really strong, right? I'm assuming those are the shit ones. They're the shit ones. Yes. Right? Because they're not actually proper silicons. They're sorts of PVCs and different sorts of plastics and whatnot. Right. But they've got like little micro holes in them. And when you're using them anally, even vaginally, when you use them, bacteria gets into them and it's almost impossible to get out. And you can't boil them to get the bacteria off or kill the bacteria. So basically, they just become like this massive serene ground bacteria that you're gonna continually use.

SPEAKER_00:

You can never do that action again. For those that obviously can't see Jordan. I'm like thrusting. He is aggressively thrusting his hand.

SPEAKER_03:

Um but the other thing is toys that are made from 100% pure body-safe silicon. Okay, they're the ones to go for. But you can use those. And if it's real silicon and you can test this, you can actually get silicon lube and use silicon lube on a silicon toy. Because if it's 100% body safe, they don't react. They don't react. Okay, so long as you clean them off after a while. Yep. Um, you can use silicon lubes on them, you can boil them, right? And they're not gonna attract that bacteria because they don't have the pores. The pores in the middle of the microphores, yeah. And like some of the companies that do really good ones are like Mr. Hanky's. Have you heard of those? Yes. They're like really, really good, super high quality. Um, I think Bad Dragon do a few of them. Um, SquarePeg Toy do a few of them as well. So, like there's some of the really, really good ones that do ultra high quality silicon.

SPEAKER_01:

That's maybe I should try but maybe I should try that then.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. And then it comes down to a size thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, size. We need to talk about size. Size. Is size important?

SPEAKER_02:

Is that a whole other episode? That is definitely a whole other episode.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a whole other episode. Look, when it comes to size, speaking from experience, buying um toys, like you can get a little bit overzealous and like your eyes are bigger than your hole. Your eyes are bigger than your hole, literally, and then like this has happened to me. I've literally gone in, not realized what I've purchased, and not realized how big it is. Got home and gone, oh hell no. Yeah, there is to the point where this is why I don't use them, because I only currently have one one dildo, right? And it's too big. And that's why you don't like it. I don't like it because it's too big. And I tried using it once, and um, let's just say it was a very uncomfortable and awkward experience for days. And yeah, we've never used that one again. That one just sits in the cupboard.

SPEAKER_03:

See, and this is the thing, like hetero guys seem to think that the buck can just take anything so long as a person's horny enough. It's not the way.

SPEAKER_01:

And look, I feel like it can take more, it can definitely take more than a vagina, yeah. But in saying that, that does not mean that people want it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, and it doesn't mean that they can take it necessarily straight away. Exactly. It's like something that you're building up to, right? 100%. You don't just go out one day and run a marathon.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. You're no, you don't at the end of the day, think of it this way: you don't get out of your bed first thing in the morning and just stop running. I did it, made me injured. Exactly. We don't do that. We get up, we slowly wake up, you go wash your face, you have your coffee, you do your your little routine. Same thing with anal sex. You gotta warm that shit up. Take your time. You can't just go in guns ablazing and just this is this is the thing that you know, okay. So I have to say this. I this is something I'm very passionate about. As someone that bottoms, the best tops are tops that are bottomed. Because they understand because they understand the problem that that I'm gonna say, look, gay guys out there, please help us with this one. Tell me if you agree. But when you when you're bottoming and you have a top that you can tell has no idea of how anatomy works and how the asshole works, they just go in there with guns blazing, going for gold, just want to just shove it straight in, you're like, bruh. It's just painful. And you can't just go to town straight away. Let me turn you around and show you what it's like. Yeah, no, I know I need some foreplay. You you have to have you have to have a little bit of full play for foreplay before you go. I mean, stick a finger in there first.

SPEAKER_03:

I think like you've even got to have a lot of foreplay before the idea even crosses your mind. Most heterosexual couples.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03:

And then, yeah, finger, like, and not necessarily jam a finger straight up there. Just play with the outside. Play with the outside, bro. Play with the outside, do like a little bit of shallow play, like just maybe a pinky. I'm just for everybody who can't see this, I'm showing my pinky finger to Sherman and he's like looking at me like, what the fuck are you doing? Put that pinky away, bro. Look like Dr. Evil.

SPEAKER_00:

Also, you got some fucking fat ass fingers too. So maybe not just a pinky.

SPEAKER_01:

I was building for 10 years. Give me a break. This is the thing, is like fun fact. I absolutely fucking detest fingers in me. Fingers in the backside. Fingers in me. Okay. Oh my god, I I hate it. Why? I do not like the way it feels. Oh, okay. Okay, for some strange reason, my asshole is apparently very sensitive, right? And I can feel like if you do not have immaculately moisturized, looked-after hands that are smooth and supple, I'm gonna feel everything.

SPEAKER_03:

All I'm just imagining now is like all the tradies listening to this, just like, oh shit, and just like polishing my finger in my mouth and going for Manikira.

SPEAKER_01:

But this is it, like seriously, like it I don't like it because I don't like the way it feels. It's painful, it doesn't feel good for me. Yeah, and then you'll just get these guys that are like, oh, that thing, okay, I'll start with fingers. But then they're going for gold, and you're like, bro, just ease up. Okay, but yes, either way, all I'm saying is when you want to play, loop, lots of it, start off gently, start off not with just sticking something huge in there, play around, some foreplay, get the person used to it, and also most importantly, communicate. Ask the person if they are comfortable with where you're going. Yeah, look, I've got one thing in there, you okay with that? Is that cool? Does that feel good? Yeah, can I put another one in there? So that was gonna be one of my tips at right at the end.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, sorry, I took that from there. Ruined it. Um communication, best way to have amazing sex.

SPEAKER_01:

Because the thing is, if you don't communicate and you doing something like, for example, like I'm saying with me and the fingers, I have not communicated that before with many people. Yeah. And they've just kept on going or it becomes a bit awkward. I could quite easily say, hey, sorry, man, I actually don't like that. Yeah. Please don't use your fingers. It it hurts a bit. And I would have a more pleasurable experience.

SPEAKER_03:

You could. But with that as well, it could almost like it could almost be like a bit of a turnoff. It's like, oh, okay. But there's other ways to communicate that. Exactly. Hey, instead of using that hand there, can you use the hand here and do this for me? Exactly. Like redirection. Yes. I know this because I'm a toddler dad. Like redirection actually works far better than saying don't do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't do that 100%.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, but I think communication. Instead of doing this, why don't you come and play with this? Yeah, exactly. And I know for a lot of hetero guys as well, it's like, hey, we are wanting the girl to get off so much. We want to see them like have those big screaming orgasms like they're doing porner, right? They're not gonna have those big screaming orgasms unless we're doing the things that they want to do.

SPEAKER_01:

They want, but also most importantly, can I just mention, and this just goes with every anything, not just Anor, guys out there, and I'm gonna say this goes for straight and gay and whatever else in between. Just remember, you might think you're amazing at something. Number one, not everyone's the same. Why are you looking at me so intensely? Look at that. The thing is, you might think that you're amazing at stuff that worked well with one or two people.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That doesn't mean that's gonna work with everybody. Yes. Communication like ask your partner, find out from your partner what they're like, what they're actually into. Have a c have an actual can of conversation with. Like, hey, is this something that you would like? Do you want to try it? When you've tried it, how did you feel about it? Be honest about it. But ex thinking that you're this just you know, macho dude, that's just amazing. I just know exactly how to please a woman or please a man for that matter.

SPEAKER_03:

I read it in men's health, certainly.

SPEAKER_01:

I read it in men's health, and therefore 100% it works. You know, I read in a magazine somewhere. Bitch, please. Yeah. Like check if the person is into that rather than just exp thinking that you're amazing. And also sometimes, yeah. Have you ever heard that sometimes people can fake it?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Once or twice.

SPEAKER_03:

Not from personal experience, though. Or nothing like that?

SPEAKER_01:

No, maybe a couple of times. Fun fact I've had I have faked it once or twice.

SPEAKER_03:

How does a guy even fake it?

SPEAKER_01:

You think you think this is exactly I've I faked it twice.

SPEAKER_03:

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01:

I faked it twice. What do you like bring your own tube and like fake gum or something?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, look at it.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, look, he's not they're not gonna know until I leave, are they? Oh I see. So that's like Robin Hood shit. Exactly. Phantom come. No, I've 100% done that before. I was it was just it was just taking too long. I it was taking way too long, and I was tired, bro.

SPEAKER_03:

I went from like, this is so hard to oh, I've got to do my bank statement. Oh my gosh, tell me I need to go to bed.

SPEAKER_01:

Is it tax time? Don't need to do my taxes. Like, I legit was at a point where I was so tired. Yeah, it had been going forever, and I was like, you know what? I can get out of the situation real quick. And I literally didn't, I I faked it. I felt so bad that I was like, oh god, how do I fake this? What sounds do I make? I don't usually make sounds. Do they know the sounds I usually make? Oh shit. And yes, I faked it and bounced straight away.

SPEAKER_00:

How have we gotten here? I wouldn't have a clue. Let's get back on track. Back saying no.

SPEAKER_03:

Talking about getting out of here. Let's finish up on some tips. Yep. Alright, hit me. Give me two.

SPEAKER_01:

Two tips. Sometimes just a tip is enough. Oh you like that one. Yeah. Sometimes shallow play, that's where it's at. Yeah, sometimes just a tip might be enough. Yeah. And then my second one will be I think my the most important one is preparation. Prep, prep, prep, prep, prep. Prep. Make sure that you are getting ready, douching if you need to, the right um food, fiber, high fiber, and all that, supplements, made them useful. Get yourself ready.

SPEAKER_03:

Probiotics as well, apparently.

SPEAKER_01:

Probiotics, yeah. Just make sure you get yourself ready.

SPEAKER_03:

Just get your gut health going. It's gonna make you feel better. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Because at the end of the day, if you the less you douche the better. So if you can get your gut health to a really good point, you might not need to need to douche. But either way, whatever the preparation looks like for you, prepare.

SPEAKER_03:

Do it.

SPEAKER_01:

And the people that are going to be the penetrators, the givers, just remember. Be go easy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Just remember, unless if if that thing was being put into you, you would want it to be put in slowly. So just take some time. Take it slow.

SPEAKER_03:

That's exactly where I was gonna go. Okay. Slow it down, like glacial pace sort of shit. Absolutely. You know it the slower that you go, the more it builds as well. Like obviously not to the point where like you're sitting there wanting to do your taxes and like go home, but like take it slow, take it slow, communicate, move on to the next stage, communicate, move on to the next stage, and take it slow. Take your time. And then I think the other thing for hetero people, especially guys, it's you've got to create the environment that allows a woman to step into that space where she wants to be super, super intimate with you and share her a safe environment, right? So you've got to create that, and like we'll get into another episode where we'll talk about like the dual control method where we talk about like brakes and accelerators and all that sort of stuff. But essentially you're not trying to turn a girl on, you're trying to take away as much of the stresses as possible. And if preparation is there, if you know her comfort in you is there, and if you're providing her pleasure, those stresses are gonna come off far quicker than you trying to apply things to the accelerator. So I like it.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm learning so much. It's good, huh? I thought we're gonna be teaching, I didn't realize I'm gonna be learning so much. Yeah, who would have thought that a straight guy would teach the gay guy about it?

SPEAKER_00:

A straight man's gonna teach me about anal.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright, so I think that there's two books that are really, really good for this if people want to check that out. And it's the ultimate guide to anal sex for women by Tristan Taramina.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_03:

Really, really cool. And the other one is But Seriously, the Definitive Guide to Anal Health, Pleasure, and Everything in Between by Dr. Evan Goldstein. So those two things, amazing resources. Let us know what you think to this episode. Let us know if we've really screwed it up or we've actually done something pretty good here.

SPEAKER_01:

Let us know if you've learned something like how I have.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03:

Or if you've got something else to contribute that we didn't touch on, let us know.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. That's all that that's always a very important thing. So if we if there's something you want to add to it that we might have forgotten that you think is really important that should be discussed, please feel free to um let us know. Yeah. Sherman, I'd love doing an annual with you. It's been great.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what? I've enjoyed every moment of it, Jordan. Thank you so much for this annual experience. You're my first. I'm sure you'll probably be my last. I can't say that you'll be my first.

SPEAKER_03:

Ciao, guys. See ya. Thanks for tuning in to today's episode of Super Sex. We hope you found our discussion both enlightening and entertaining.

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