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What if your best sex lives ahead of you—not behind you? We sit down with Susan Bratton to map a practical, science-led route to more pleasure, deeper connection, and better health, no matter your age or experience. Susan breaks down the anatomy most of us never learned at school: the clitoral network, urethral sponge, perineal sponge, and vestibular bulbs that together form the foundation of female arousal. Once you understand engorgement—the “lady boner”—you stop rushing to penetration and start building the kind of full-body turn-on that makes orgasms stack and last.

We explore how desire often follows arousal, why many women need 20 to 30 minutes for peak blood flow, and the simple habits that change everything: kissing and nipple play to prime the inside, lay-on vibrators and skilled hands to activate the outside. Susan connects the dots on nitric oxide—how leafy greens, beetroot, and smart supplementation improve blood flow for all genders—and shows why antibacterial mouthwash and acid blockers can sabotage your bedroom and your brain. We talk pegging and prostate play without the blushes, clear STI testing protocols that make open relationships safer, and how podcasts have become the candid classroom porn never was.

For those curious about biohacking, Susan shares firsthand wins using PRP “O shots,” shockwave therapy, pumps, and even stem cells to regenerate genital tissue and sensation. The goal isn’t quick fixes—it’s capacity building, so your body learns to deliver more pleasure with less effort. Along the way we touch on sleep, stress, and why oxytocin-fuelled intimacy is nervous system medicine. Ready to turn sex into a craft you’ll keep mastering for life? Press play, subscribe for more candid, smart conversations, and leave a review telling us the one insight you’ll try first.

SPEAKER_03:

Yo! It's time for another episode of the Super Sex Podcast. And today we've got a real treat for you. Now buckle up because we're about to explore the outer reaches of orgasmic potential with none other than Suzanne Bratton, the self-proclaimed Orgasmonaut. That's right. Suzanne's here to guide us through a whole new world of pleasure and connection, and trust me, you are capable of way more sexual satisfaction than you think. Not only is she mapping out the cosmos of your desires, but Susan is also a sexual biohacker, and we talk about how to use regenerative therapies to keep your libido alive and kicking. Now she's got the courage of a lion and the brains of a scientist. And she fearlessly dives into the anatomy and science of pleasure so that you can level up your sex life. From the 20 types of orgasms to how nitric oxide fuels your sexual engine, this episode is packed with juicy insights. So let's get nerdy about pleasure and take your sex game to the next level. I'm Shannon. And I'm Jordan.

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Two friends, one straight, one gay, taking on all things sex.

SPEAKER_03:

Today on a pod guys, we have the one, the only, Susan Bratton. Welcome. How are you, Susan?

SPEAKER_01:

I am so good, Jordan. And hi, Sherman. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_02:

I I am so good. I'm excited. I'm so excited for this. Jordan loves you.

SPEAKER_01:

I really appreciate that. That's so kind of you both. I'm I'm I'm honestly very flattered. So thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_03:

No, you've uh you've been my sexology crush for about five or six years now. So it's um it's really, really great to have you on.

SPEAKER_01:

It really is. It really is. That's hot, yeah. I love it.

SPEAKER_03:

So today we're gonna get into all things uh female pleasure, how to unlock it. But yeah, before we do that, you've got a really interesting journey into this whole world of sex education yourself. Can you jump into that for us? Yeah, that's what I want to hear about. I'm so intrigued for this.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a I'm a late bloomer. In every aspect of my life, I've been a late bloomer. I'm in my 60s now, and I have never been hotter. I've never had more orgasms, I've never been more on fire with regard to like my thinking and my creativity. I've never had bigger biceps, I've never been stronger. Um, I just I I've hit a level of mastery. I was just joking that I'm gonna cook my husband a chicken dinner because he's been gone all week and he's getting home uh while we're on the show. And I I wanna I want to go make him a chicken dinner. I'm like, cooking is delicious. Um there's just this nexus. If you keep yourself healthy, there's this amazing just everything comes to is coming together for me in ways that are so powerful. And I've spent my life in basically tech businesses. I did a couple of decades in the Silicon Valley, I was part of uh startups and then went on to found the company that I'm in now, which is my own company with my husband, Personal Life Media. We just celebrated our 18th year in the company, publishing passionate love making techniques and bedroom communication skills. But what's interesting about it is that I am still coming into my own as a thought leader, as a leader of my company, as somebody who wants to create a legacy for people, as someone who's training the people who work for me to become the future leaders of my business. I mean, it is just insane how many things I'm working on that I'm I'm like my skiing, my scuba diving, my bike riding, my weight training, my biohacking. Like I am just doing so many things and doing them well. And there's a real feeling of accomplishment, but also like even more pent-up creativity and so many more gifts to give. And I'm saying all of this because when you're in your 60s and you start saying, I'm having the best sex of my life, a lot of people are like, well, it must have been really shitty because you're old and it can't be that good, you know. No, you just will expect it. But it's actually yeah, this is my point. That is why I said all those things is that it takes a life to get really good at things. And your sexual, your sexual development and your sexual pleasure is on the same trajectory as mastering being a good cook or a diver or a biker or a weight trainer or a CEO or a whatever. It's a lifelong process of expansion, in this case, of your pleasure, of your depth of connection, of your ability to be present with your lover, of your ability to have what I like to call co-creative bliss and ecstasy. Like you don't start out lifting a 50-pound weight in ecstasy. You start out in a two-pound weight and you start to taste ecstasy. You start to taste connection, you start to taste orgasm. But over time, you're like, wow, my you know, stroking my clit is making me come super well. Oh wow, my G spot is feeling super good. And I'm having these really different orgasms having my G spot stroked. And then you're like, holy shit, I just I just ejaculated. It felt incredible. And then, you know, oh, I can replicate that now, and I can I can be really relaxed and have all these ejaculatory orgasms. Oh, whoa, now I'm having orgasms from intercourse for the first time, and I didn't do it for it took me 42 years, and I and now I'm I'm having orgasm, oh now I learned how to ride cowgirl, and I'm like, oh, now my dirty talk game is incredible. You know, and so it's just like what it's like there's this just vast array of experiences that you can have in your sexuality. And what I've basically been doing for the last two decades is having them and writing it down and telling people the steps I took so they could have it too, because our body is an operating system that works the same way as everyone else's, basically. Yes, there's genetics, epigenetics, there's you know, how much sleep you had, how much crap food you ate, how much booze you drank, you know, how how do you feel about the person you're with, or you know, there's all there's a lot of other factors, but the basics are we have 20 types of orgasms we can have. There are 50, a hundred different types of erotic play dates we can experience. So just knowing what to do often you can have it. And if you don't do it the first time, practice and usually by the third time, you're doing that too. And and that's really what I do. I I teach people how to turn having sex into making love and what all the things are that they could try. So they keep doing what I call getting on the upward pleasure spiral, where sex keeps getting better and better their whole life long instead of swirling down the toilet like so many people's sex lives.

SPEAKER_02:

I like that. I like that turning it into uh from sex into love. I heard you talk about that previously, and I'm like, that that sounds that sounds hot.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. But I I love what you picked up on there, where you're talking about exploration. Like I've just been writing a uh a paper on the the way the vagina is venerated with all these different nerve endings. And it's only they the the literature comes out and says this there's only 27% of females that can actually vag uh vaginally orgasm, and everybody else needs clitoral clitoral orgasms to be able to do it. Yeah, it's it totally is because you just have to learn how. Exactly. Yes, yes. And all these people, they basically go, oh well the data says that I can't do it, so I'm not gonna not even gonna try. I'm just gonna buzz it in with my m magic wand and leave it at that. And the exploration stops. And I think that's where you're coming in and saying, hey, go out there and explore because your body's what is it, John Mayer? Was it John Mayer that said your body's a wonderland? Exactly. You know, so go out and explore it.

SPEAKER_02:

But also every as much as we all have the same like we are the same, and we realize, like we're saying with previously, me being the gay man, Jordan being the straight man, we realize the more we talk how similar we actually are, and how it always comes down to the same thing. But also everyone has different experiences, and not everything is gonna be what a cookie cutter fit for everybody. No. So I like the fact that you're coming from your experience, knowing what you've experienced, and it's not just you going, yo, you know what? I read this book and it said this, so I'm gonna go with that and preach this to other people. You're talking about your lived experiences over, like you say, two decades. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_01:

I've learned a lot from bisexual men that I've been with as lovers, and that's been really nice. Men that have also been with men as well.

SPEAKER_02:

I want to know more about that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's been nice. Um, mostly around like pegging. Um, you know, I don't I'm I'm starting to get pretty good with a strap on, wearing one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I'm getting like more fluid hip movements and more ability to know where I am in space and have the strength and stamina to be delivering the sensation in that way. When you have a strap on, you you don't have a s the same amount of biofeedback because you're it's not your actual penis, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

So true. I've never thought about that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I um I had a boyfriend last year.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And um he wrote two of them actually. Last year I um I I happened to have two opportunities to have sex with two people that I had wanted to have sex with for a long time.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

And I've been married for 33 years to my husband, and we have a fantastic sex life. But we are also in an open relationship where we would kind of consider ourselves kitchen table poly, where we have people who are in our life for a long time and are our lovers. But we are also open to the idea of if someone interesting comes along, that's good too, as long as we have safe sex practices.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Because we have a full, we do a full panel test. I'm I'm in the chief advocacy officer of an at-home collection kit STI testing company. I have been preaching the benefits and values of frequent testing, testing before you put your mouth on a person's genitals or put your genitals on a person's genitals and just keeping it safe and not transferring these bacterias, viruses, mites, you know, all of the things that you could do because most STIs are transferred by skin-to-skin contact. And so we have these very stringent rules around testing prior to intimacy. But then once we do that and we know we're good, then we can have as much fun as we want to have. And then if they and then they screen out and go on their merry way when they go on their merry way. And that's been really, really fun. And I had two people who I'd really had the hots for. And I I don't know how you guys are. Do you have the hots for a lot of people or not very many people? How does it does it like ebb and flow?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I have I generally have the huts for a lot of people. I'm that guy. You you do, don't you?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Um I think I'm so consumed with my wife that you know, she's she's like the absolute pinnacle of what I look for in a female partner. So there's very, very few people that I'll actually see walk past and go, oh, okay, she's turned my head. But yeah, like I'm the opposite to you, whereas this I'm just walking down the street and I'm like, oh, hello. What's your name? It sort of gets a little bit weird at times.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it when I'm like that, when I'm like, ooh, hello, you know, when I'm like Sherman, because that's when my every my like my turn on is really high when I'm very drawn to a lot of people. Um, and I I love that feeling. But I had these two both these guys, one had been married and I'd always had the hots for him and he got divorced, and I was like, hello. Do you need any, do you need like another rebound? And the same thing with another guy. He was ending an 18-year relationship, and um, I was like, Hi, would you like to get back on the horse with me? And it was interesting that both of them were very ass-focused men. And I just didn't have a lot of experience with that because my current partner, my husband, they're not they're not that ass focused.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And so I had a lot of fun new experiences with those men. And they were really exciting and really different and super hot. And I had all kinds of new, you know, experiments and things that I did. It was really great.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I find that so cool though, because like you say, you you will never stop learning. It doesn't matter how old you get, you will always have new experiences. This is so cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I was ready for those experiences. I was just in that that time where I was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna try some new stuff. Yeah. Let's what do you want me to do? Oh, the you want the my biggest dildo? Okay. Because I'm like, here's what I have. And they're both like that one. I was like, oh, there you go. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

New experiences. It's um it's it's really, really cool to hear how men are starting to embrace that, and especially since COVID. The the the rates of people enjoying pegging and and heterosexual men especially enjoying backdoor play has gone skyrocketing since COVID. Um it's and I wonder, it getting back to that exploration, is it the fact that people are just sitting at home bored and being like, oh well, okay, that feels okay? Or is it this new dynamic coming out? And it might actually be something to do with getting a little bit older as well and thinking, well, fuck the world and fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna try.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm gonna try it because it feels good.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you know, I think people are talking more. I think that's what it is. I think people guys like guys are talking a little bit more than they used to, and with that, the things that they're trying, like if if you have your you know, your straight guy friend, bro man going, Oh, you know what, I tried uh my missus like this and I tried it, and then that opens up for the other guy to go, well, actually, you know what, or I've tried it too. Or maybe I've thought about it and I want to try it, but that my friend's saying that he's tried it, I'm gonna try it. So I think it's more like that communication between friends and stuff that they're going, oh, you know what? This is something that's everybody's kind of exploring. Maybe I should try it too.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's podcasts.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what I think it is. Because podcasts are an uncensored medium. And there are podcasts for every interest.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

And 75, at least in the US, 73% of people now regularly listen to podcasts. And fifty four percent of them, three or four percent of them are men. And YouTube is the number one place for discovery of podcasts now, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

And social media is censored, maybe not X, but um, I think generally social media is relatively censored, you know, Facebook, Instagram, things like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And um, there wasn't really an outlet other other than pornography. And pornography is not sex education, it's literally the opposite. It's like, here's what not to do to your girlfriend that you're jerking off to.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. Exactly. We've had a whole episode on that.

SPEAKER_01:

Good. So we're in agreement.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It's yeah, so I think it's the conversations in podcasts.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm with you.

SPEAKER_02:

I believe that too.

SPEAKER_03:

I I think podcasting is actually filling that void now as well, because in in the US, there's all these issues around sex education at schools. Um certain states have got great great curriculums, other states have got very, very restrictive curriculums. It's the same here in Australia as well. But basically, what what's happening is we're teaching kids, hey, you can't talk about this stuff unless it's from a negative point of view in school. And then they come out of school, they go searching for a little bit more information, they can't find it on Facebook or X or Instagram. So their next port of call is to go straight to porn. But now I think that you you're very, very true, where you're you're saying that podcasting is that new medium where people are coming in and trying to access that information and trying to get those tips around you know, pleasure.

SPEAKER_02:

And the fact, like you're saying, that it is uncensored. So you're getting and also it's real people talk. You know, when you're looking at porn, those are not most of the time not real people. They're trying to sell something.

SPEAKER_01:

They're actors.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly, they're actors. But when you come when you're thinking about people that are podcasting, I mean, like Jordan and I have been friends for the over 20 years. Half the time we're just sitting on here just talking absolute crap. But it's real, it's as lived experiences. So yeah, I think I agree with that actually. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So I'm dying to know, Jordan, what did you learn about female pleasure while you were getting your masters in sexology?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, okay. So we basically look at sex and relationships through a bio-psychosocial lens. So we look at it from a biological point, we look at it from a social point and a cultural point, and we look at it from a psychological point. So basically, we we skim over each one of those. But with female pleasure, it's it all comes down to the clitoris. Like everything is clitoral, clitoral, clitoral focused. Like they do talk a little bit about like the the nerve endings within the uh within a vagina, you know, there's the uh posterior fornicus and w what not, there's a G-spot and they they talk about all that, but it's more of a skim and more secondary, if you will, to the clitoris. Um I would say. And that's why I don't know. I'm I'm sort of on this journey now to s to to bust that myth that the only way to enjoy sex for a female is to do it with your your clitoris and a magic wand, you know. And um on the on the flip side, I'm trying to help guys to understand that they can be better lovers by focusing on these areas at the same time and using their communication, using their energy, using uh their mouths, their tongues, their words even, and how to explore female pleasure because as a guy that's really what you're looking for.

SPEAKER_02:

Um I mean regardless of of um gender that's yeah, yeah. As a guy, you want to give someone pleasure because that gives you pleasure in seeing somebody's face just like contorted be happy and the moans. It makes you feel good.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, jumping back to porn though, I mean they they did a study on where the people look when they when they're watching porn, and the majority of the time, guys are looking at females' faces, which they're trying to get that feedback of how much pleasure they're giving. So guys inherently want to give females pleasure, but we just don't know how, for the most part.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's interesting. That's I I was thinking about um there's there's like some myths about the clitoris that I think are I don't know, I I would like your guys' advice about better ways to explain this to people. Can I run some things by you and will you give me your feedback?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So um the first one is that the that all women can orgasm in all the different ways. I've counted up the different kinds of orgasms and there's over there's over 20. They kind of go into three categories, three big categories. One is locations to touch, you know, like the tip of the clitoris, the the you know, inside the vagina. There might be multiple locations inside the vagina, but frankly, the entire vaginal cavern can be activated. Everything's about activation, it's all orgasmic. Um, and this whole notion of you know, there's 10,000 nerve endings, nerve endings on the tip of the clitoris, yeah, that that is true. But that's such a tiny little part of the whole the whole like experience where a lot of it has to be more about stimulating the erectile tissue itself. I think that's a really unsung part of learning how to have really incredible pleasure. So you've got locations to touch, you've got techniques, very specific techniques, like whether that's becoming a multi-orgasmic man and getting ejaculatory choice, so you can come when you want to, and the rest of the time you're still having orgasms, but they're full body energy type of orgasms rather than ejaculatory orgasms, which women do kind of naturally. We have lots of full body orgasms, but we don't ejaculate as much. Um, we kind of have to learn our path to ejaculation, where the men have to learn their path to not ejaculating and still having the orgasm. We come at it from two, and I think that is almost all societally driven because we b we both ejaculate and urinate out of our urethral canals. We both can ejaculate or have full body orgasms. I think everything we've ever seen, everything men have ever seen is I come when I ejaculate. And so that's just how it works. And they're two separate systems to the body, you know. So like there's so much that's just cultural in it. But but there are there are these techniques. So like having an expanded orgasm practice, which is a clit stroking practice that allows you to get into an orgasm and stay in an orgasm and extend the time of the orgasm. So you come for really long times. And each time you come, the next time you come, you stay in, you can stay in even longer and you can it can be even more intense. So it's like this stair step of it expanding or almost like quantum gasms. They keep getting bigger, more pleasurable, and lasting even longer to the point where the only outer limit of how long you can come is when you get tired, thirsty, or you just need to take a friggin' break. We have this massive capacity to orgasm. So that's another technique. And then tools of pleasure, which you guys were talking about that, I think, on your last episode that I listened to, which was, you know, overcoming the shame around thinking that it's some kind of crutch or you have a failure or what have you, and adding in those sensations. They're just alternative sensations. Like there's, you know, maybe like eight to ten different types of sex tools that stimulate different parts of the female genital system. And there's a four or five that stimulate the male genital system, just from the way our anatomy works and the way, you know, the way the tools work. And I always encourage everybody to have all of them, like start collecting them. I mean, you open your shoe closet, how many shoes are in there? Right? Why doesn't your pleasure drawer have all those different tools too? And I think more people are getting to that point where they're like, here's my array of dildos, which one do you want? You know?

SPEAKER_02:

I think the stigma, stigma's uh coming down a bit, so people are a lot more open to actually exploring their bodies and exploring the fact that I mean walking into a sex shop is not as, you know, embarrassing. You're not like trying to hide um it anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and you guys, I think um you're starting to have sex toys sold at what's your big department store called? David Johnson or something?

SPEAKER_03:

David Jones, David Jones Jones, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

David Jones. Yeah. Like there's sex toys in David Jones now.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. So I heard something like that, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. It used to be that, you know, you had to go like to the other side of the tracks to the adult store, you know, in the CD, and women didn't want to do that. And so somebody was like, Hey, why don't we put the toys in the department store where the ladies go for their makeup? And it's like, that's a brilliant idea. I mean, and we always we buy them direct.

SPEAKER_02:

There's a if I know of many uh adult stores around my area where they they have back, literally have back entrances from the car park. So you park in the back and you walk through the back because you know of the shame of walking in there. And now you've got these big massive ones where it's a huge billboards adult store and it's like right on the main road. And yeah, you it's getting to a point where you know what, pleasure is pleasure, and we have to stop the stigma that we you should be ashamed about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and pleasure is also something that we need to calm our nervous systems down. We are under so much stress in our society today between what's going on with our politics and what's, you know, all of the pressures of social media, the fact that we now are like working 24-7 because we've got all these, you know, electronic tools and you know, just everybody's everybody's making content and everybody's an influencer. You know, you just you have so many jobs to do. And it can be very stressful. And orgasms are what will keep you young and happy and healthy for a lot longer in your life, but you're so damn tired you can't go have sex. You know, it's like, I just really want a glass of wine and I just want to watch TV. But you know you'd actually live longer, be happier and healthier if you if you initiated, you know, the sex. Yes. But women don't like to initiate. It's our number one thing that we don't like to do. We want our men, if we're in a you know, pair-bonded male-female relationship, we want our men to initiate. But the problem is men are like, Do you want to have sex? And we're like, um, no, God, I just got home. I don't like, I'm not even thinking about that. And so men are ready to go, and women are not. And then he takes it as, oh, well, she just never wants to have sex with me. She doesn't even like me. I'm Even like her. I'm not gonna, I'm just gonna be all grumpy because he doesn't understand. He has to make her nice small offers and get her ready to go. And timing so many times I say to guys, it's it's just your job, like taking out the trash and killing the bugs. You it's just what you do. You do have to do the heavy. We need you, you're the heavy lifter. We need you to do the heavy lifting to get us into our arousal because we're way back behind you. And it's nothing to do with you. It's nothing to do with me. It's literally the female operating system is not at that horny level, ready to go, you know, with a hard-on. It's guys get fast hard-ons. Women get super slow hard. As a matter of fact, women don't even know that it takes them 20 to 30 minutes to come to full arousal. And so often they're rushing themselves because they feel like they have to have sex. And, you know, they'll have an orgasm, they'll get off, and that'll be enough. And they're having like really unsatisfactory sex because they don't know that they're not even ready yet.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And when a woman is gets all of the stimulation that she needs before penetration, then penetration feels incredible and she has lots and lots of orgasms too. And that is the hardest thing for people. I think it's like my number one message is engorgement, which is what a lady boner is, takes 20 to 30 minutes. And then moms are like, I gotta go to bed. Like, I'm taking care of kids, I'm working, I can't do it, I can't do it. 20 to 30 minutes. Are you shitting me? I'm not gonna, I have no time.

SPEAKER_00:

I need to get it done now.

SPEAKER_01:

And then I'm like, then use some tools. Use it, use your magic wand all over the outside of your vulva. Have your husband play with your boobs, have him start telling you how sexy you are in the earlier part of the day. Help him get you along that curve so that it's maybe only 10 minutes instead of 20 or 30 minutes. But don't rush the lady boner because then you're never gonna reach your sexual potential and you're gonna stop wanting sex.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's that thing that uh we've talked about before as well, where basically guys have desire and then they get aroused. And that the time between that is very small. You could basically just hold a playing card there. But for females, it seems as though they need to get aroused within the body to be able to start feeling that desire quite a lot of the time. Because they've got responsive desire, not spontaneous desire like us guys do, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

I feel like as a gay man, you look, I'm kind of like more got the female side in me than Jordan does. And like I see it from a perspective of as a woman, you can tell me if I'm right here. You have so much going on. You some women are mums, they are wives, they are um working full-time um uh uh c careers, they have so much on their plates that sometimes that sex is like you were saying, you want the man to come and say, Hey, get me there, because you've got so much on your plate. You're not that's the last thing in your mind. Whereas a guy goes to work, does what he has to do, beats a hammer, comes back and walks in, he's like, Okay, cool, now now I'm ready for sex, let's do it. Whereas you have got all these responsibilities and constantly thinking about how you're gonna get your the dinner cooked. Um, like you're saying you want to get your dinner cooked for your husband. It's you have so much going on in your head that obviously for me it makes sense that it would take a longer time for you to get there than it would for the dude that's just like, Oh yeah, well I'm holding, let's go. Come on, babe.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and and it's it's really the physiologic, um, the fact that all like in your penis, if you think about it like a banana, it's full of fruit. That fruit is that spongy erectile tissue, and it gets filled really fast because it needs to lock off to hold your erection.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

So when the blood flows, it flows in and you get a hard-on and it it's fast. Yeah, it's the opposite for women, it takes about 20 minutes to get into all the nooks and crannies because we have the same amount of erectile tissue, but it's in all these little parts. Yeah, and so it just takes time. And there are some really good new vibrators that I am loving. They're called in, they're called layons, like um, I like wands. I think wands are great. Yeah, um, they work really well, but some of the wands they tend to be a little bit more like they stimulate the the the skin around everything, yeah, rather than deep into that erectile tissue because the the erectile tissues right under the fur, her pubic hair, the outer labia have these little balloons in them called vestibular bulbs, and the bulbs fill up with blood. The clit has a tip, a shaft, and two arms called corora. Those corora fill up and they kind of they they go back and in and up in the vaginal area. They go along, kind of along the G spot, which is not a spot, it's a long tube, it's the urethral sponge that wraps around the urethra, which is the tube from the bladder to the exit out of her vagina. And then underneath between the bottom of her vagina and her rectum is the perineal sponge. So there's three erectile tissue chambers in the vagina or in the genitals, the female genitals, that actually hug the vaginal cavern.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

But they're all these little parts and pieces, and they have to be the blood flow has to come in them. And there's two ways to get the blood flow in, from the outside in and the inside out. And when you do them both, it works really well.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

So the outside in, the best way is either hands, uh, you know, a yoni massage, yoni being the tantric love-making word for the female genital system, lingam is the word for the men's penis, prostate testicle. And um, I know you guys know, but I'm just in case someone hasn't heard it on your show. Um, and you can do you can massage it. And then these new vibrators, one of them is from Hot Octopus, it's called the Pulse Queen. And another is from WoW Tech from Womanizer, and it's called, it's just called Vibe. I mean, I think they could have done, I think they they really left some opportunity on the table there. But um, it's just a a a lay and Fun Factory had one called the Leia, like Lay On. But um, they've recently been acquired, so their products aren't available right now. But Satisfier bought them and they're gonna relaunch the company. But this new kind of lay-on tool, it penetrates the skin of the vulva and it goes deeply into the erectile tissue and it stimulates the blood flow. And if you do that, like one of my favorite ways to become aroused, and even me, a sexpert who teaches this, I sometimes get frustrated with my own body that it takes me a long time to get turned on compared to my partner. And I have to literally say to myself, she's gonna get there. Just let her do her thing. And I'm talking about my Yoni, she's got a mind of her own, just like your dicks do. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02:

I was just about to say, just like our dicks do.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. And when I I one of the things I like to do is I like to make out with my guy and have him play with my boobs, because especially my nipples, which I didn't even used to like my boobs or play with my boobs at all during sex. And now I can just come and come and come from nipple stimulation. Oh, I learned how.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01:

I created the neural pathways from tits to brain. And I've done the same thing with my yoni, all the different parts. I've activated them. This is what I call orgasmic activation. You just start playing with it, you start touching it, it starts to feel good. Each time you do it, it'll feel better and better. And when you when you kiss your lips, your tongue, your mouth, your throat, that is all, there's erectile tissue in there, and it's also on a system with your boobs and your nipples and your yoni, the whole thing. Those three things are a system. So when you make out, you know, when you're kissing and you're tonguing, and your partner's playing with your boobs, and you could be holding a vibrator and rubbing it all around on that tissue or and I am really very good at one hand on my partner's penis stroking him while I've got a you know, one of those layons on my vulva. He's giving me nipple gasms that we're making out, and that's giving me a chance to get that blood filled because when you play with your nipples and you kiss, it sends the blood down inside. So then you're filling it up from the inside and you're filling it up from the outside, and you're getting that engorgement that swells the tissue. That's your boner. And that swelling, when you touch that tissue and it's bigger and plump and fluffy and engorged, it has more surface area that sends more signals to your brain. Your brain is your biggest sex organ because it's the processor of the sensory signals of pleasure. So, and the more you do that, the better the system works and the more channels get lit up to your brain. And then just to finish it off, you have an orgasm or 20 before bed, and you've just saturated your brain with oxygen. It it literally oxygenates your brain. Then you've had oxytocin that has you you've generated oxytocin with that skin-to-skin contact, and the oxytocin tamps down the cortisol or the adrenaline. You might call it adrenaline in Australia. Do you call it adrenaline or cortisol?

SPEAKER_02:

Cortisol.

SPEAKER_01:

Cortisol. Um, different parts of the world call it different things. That the cortisol pushes down, or mean the adrenal the oxytocin pus it pushes down the cortisol, and then you have lower nighttime cortisol. And when you have lower nighttime cortisol, you rest more deeply, you have more deep sleep. Then your brain is gonna detoxify and clean itself out. And all that oxygenation that you put in there carries the waste out, and then you have higher cognitive function, better rest, a better day the next day. You've done all kinds of things that actually lengthen your life, lower your stress, improve your happiness, reboot your nervous system. I mean, it literally drives natural killer cells that come and eat up all the broken and dead cells in your body. It improves your T cell production, it improves your IGA for your sugar regulation and your immune system function. It releases endorphins, lowering any pain that you might have. I mean, it is just incredible. If you, if you were the kind of person who was like, I'm really not motivated to have sex, but if you're telling me I'll look, I'll look 10 years younger and have a healthier, happier life, maybe that'll motivate me. I don't know. You know, like I'll just whatever it is. But but for most people, it's the heavy lift of the woman's arousal, where she doesn't, she feels like there's something wrong with her because she doesn't get a big fat quick boner like her partner does.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And she needs his help to get going.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So basically, men out there.

SPEAKER_03:

Come on, step up. But I think, I think as well, there's a there's a couple of things I want to jump on there. But yeah, what one of them, I've heard you talk about um nitric oxide. Is it nitric oxide?

SPEAKER_01:

Um yeah, nitric oxide.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, in in a form of a pill to help the lubrication with the vagina and help that arousal start a little bit easier. Is what what's the deal with that? Can you explain that one a little bit more?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, nitric oxide is a gaseous signaling molecule that your body uses to squeeze your vascular system. So, you know, your your arteries, your veins, your capillaries, the whole, all the little tubes that hold and push the blood around in your body. They go all the way to the ends, they look like a tree. And they have muscle called smooth muscle tissue. And you don't have you don't have enough blood to go everywhere you need it in your body all the time. So when you're thinking, your body is, you know, or you're working, your body's pushing more blood to your brain. If you're working out, you're doing squats, it's pushing it to your quads and your glutes. If you're having sex, it's pushing it to your pelvic bowl. So that's how you get your boner. Your body squeezes the blood down into your dick.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what it does.

SPEAKER_01:

And then when it squeezes it in there, it the smooth muscle locks off and holds your firm erection. That's why erectile dysfunction is a loss of nitric oxide and Viagra, cialis, levitra, these PDE5 inhibitors, they are actually slowing down the dissipation of the nitric oxide so it holds the blood in your dick longer.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what it does.

SPEAKER_01:

And so we we get we make nitric oxide by eating leafy greens and beetroot, cabbage, dill, arugula, you call it rocket, um, romaine, you know, all of these things, greens mostly and re and the reds, um, but not necessarily berries. It's really beetroot for some reason. And um the problem is that we have had soil depletion, nitrogen soil depletion. So there's not so much nitrogen in the vegetables anymore. Plus, as your body gets less efficient at producing everything as you age, you produce less nitric oxide. By the time you're 50, you have half the nitric oxide you had when you were in your 20s. And then if you're using an antibacterial mouthwash, it's kill you have these little in your tongue, there's these little valleys, crypts they call them, that have these bacterias in them that take the nitrates from the vegetables and convert them to nitrites. But if you've killed off the bacteria in your mouth thinking you're doing a good job with your oral health, but you're actually killing off the good bacteria, then they can't do that conversion. Or if you're taking an acid blocker or a proton pump inhibitor because you have acid reflux, the actual problem with acid reflux is that you that sphincter in your your esophageal sphincter and your duodenal sphincters, they they work the sphincter system works on acid. So the acid keeps it closed so it that your contents of your stomach don't come up into your throat and give you acid reflux. But it's been a misnomer. It was actually an Australian that discovered this. Um, that mostly it's a small intestinal bacterial overgrowth of H. pylori. An Australian discovered this H. pylori. And that's what m makes the acid get alkaline and keep makes the stuff come up in your throat. So just a band-aid of taking a proton pump inhibitor or like a Xantac. I don't know what your brand names are, they're a Xantac or whatever, acid blocker tombs. I don't know what they're called. Um, that it doesn't help to do that. You you you actually need to change your diet. You're eating garbage, you're eating carbs and you're eating barbecue and you're eating fats and bad fats, you know, like fried foods. You're eating fried foods, white foods, and sugary shit. And you need to be eating greens and meats and healthy fats. And so you could have any one of those issues. You're getting older, you're you you you've lost your bacteria in the mouth, you've you've got your stomach acids not strong enough, you know, and all these things mean you're not making any nitric oxide. So you can supplement with a nitric oxide booster made from either arginine or citrulline or both derived from greens and roots and uh uh uh leaves and things like that. And that's good. It's good to take a nitric oxide booster. I like to take them. Um, I take quite a few different types, you know, all the time. I'm adding nitric oxide and eating a lot of leafy greens as well, and beetroot and things like that. I cook my own beets. They're really good when you cook them yourself, yeah. Just to try to keep the nitric oxide up because it's for more than just getting a clit boner or a dick boner, it's also for being able to get that oxygen into your head. It keeps your skin nice. I mean, it does a lot of things. You need that nitric oxide. So if you're feeling like the blood is not flowing into your pelvic bowl, like you're having some flaccidness to your genitals, beef up any and all of those things that I mentioned, and it will definitely help with everything from ejaculation. If you want to learn how to be, uh, you know, if you if you want to learn female ejaculation. Um, hydrating is really helpful, but also taking nitric oxide boosters really helps get that all that blood flowing down because the way you ejaculate, you want me to say, you want me to say that?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, absolutely. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, is that you get this blood recruiting down into your pelvic bowl, and the blood plasma is liquid, and it the liquid seeps through that urethral sponge I was talking about earlier in these skeins glands and goes into that tube, and you have a contraction, and the fluid comes out. It could come out like a little dribble, a little wetness, it could come out like a spring that kind of bubbles up out of the ground. It could come out in one little squirt, or it could come out in a big giant wet puddle that looks like a liter of water on the bed. It really just depends on your comfort with letting go, how hydrated you are, how how how safe you feel, how if you're willing to let it come out of you. And one of the nice things about female ejaculation is that it's kind of like an orgasm and a good cry had a baby. It's very releasing. It's very, very similar to when you ejaculate as a man. You know how it's like they call it a release.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You have the pleasure, but you also have that calmness that comes from it when you get off and you you let go and you ejaculate. That's how it is for us women, too, where we just feel like, oh yeah, oh, that's so, oh God. It's like it just you got wrung out, you know?

SPEAKER_03:

I like that. Yeah, those um, yeah, those orgasms are they're great. And you've also talked as well about a four-day, I'm gonna say a fuck fest for want of a better word.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, four-day fuck fests. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

You should really build that understanding of your body and um that engorge those tissues even more because they do keep getting engorged the more you use them, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they get better and better and better. I mean, I personally have not found an upper limit to my engorgement capacity. I haven't hit anything where I'm like, well, that's as big as that's gonna get. No, it keeps getting bigger. But I also do some sexual biohacking to myself. Like, um, it was funny. I so I started out when I was 55. So I'm 63. So eight years ago, I had a fair amount of genital atrophy. And my girlfriend told me about uh doing P shots and O shots, which are PRP, platelet-rich plasma. It's most often used for joint pain and things like that, where they'll they'll take the growth factors from your own blood, they'll spin it into a little machine and take just the growth factors out of your blood and then like inject it into your shoulder or your elbow or your knee or something like that. And that sends a signal to your body to bring repair mechanisms from your own body, dropping in stem cells and things like that to come and fix that tissue. And you'll be able to fix that tissue. It might take a few times to do it, but it'll regenerate tissue. It's regenerative therapies. And I also did I did one of them, one of the one of the O shots, they call it like an orgasm shot, and it didn't do much. And my girlfriend was like, Look, I've had really good success with these O shots. Maybe you should get another one because sometimes it takes more than one. Sometimes you're atrophied to the point where you need more than one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And we're gonna do some gains wave on you. And gains wave is here in America, it's it's a shockwave technique uh technology that is a certain treatment that practitioners are trained on using these shockwave devices to do regenerative therapy to the genital tissue, the penis and the vulva and vagina. And that she did the combination of those two things. And then I was like, oh wow, okay, I've gotten my sensation back. And I thought, oh, I feel like this is how I used to feel when I was in my 30s. Like the sensation came back to my orgasm at a level that I hadn't realized had diminished. So then I'm like, what happens if I get another one?

SPEAKER_02:

Ramp it right up.

SPEAKER_01:

So just to roll out, I've had seven O shots. And then I just I love that. And and now I've recently just had my own stem cells harvested and injected into my entire genital structures. And it just keeps rebuilding the tissue. And now over the last eight years, between all of the stimulation I've been giving myself and getting, as well as these regenerative therapies, I have a very nice little clit boner. Like it's kind of like half my pinky. You can feel it because the the clitoral shaft comes out from between the pelvic bone, right up by the mons pubis. And so the the clitoris, if you open up the the inner labia and you look, there's the tip of the clitoris, but it has the hood on it. And where the inner labia come up and meet the outer labia, and they kind of go over and make the hood, underneath there, you can feel the shaft of the clitoris. When you get really turned on, you can feel that shaft. And mine has grown, mine is 10 times bigger than it was my whole life, just in the last eight years, from doing all of that work and having all of those orgasms. And the tip of the clit is very nice, but so is the shaft. It's like, you know how when you masturbate, you don't just masturbate the tip of your penis, just the glands. You masturbate the whole shaft.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

And your perineum and your testicles and your prostate, all of that is erectile tissue inside there. And all of those components, the more that you masturbate, the more sex that you have, especially if you use a penis pump, a vacuum erection device, and you pump a couple times a week and enlar you will enlarge your penis. It will have more blood carrying capacity, more tissue will grow. It's the same as my clitoris. There are lady pumps where we can pump our clit and our outer vulva, which is where those vestibular bulbs are underneath. So you can keep making everything bigger, sending more signals to the brain, more engorged, more pleasurable. And it doesn't have to get worse as you age, it can get better as you age.

SPEAKER_02:

I have learned so much today.

SPEAKER_03:

It is crazy. I just love the fact that you went somewhere with food and sex that I don't think anybody's ever really heard of. You know, you you normally mention food and sex, and people are like, oh yeah, let's go and get a cucumber or an eggplant, and that'll be that. You know? Yeah. Get your greens to get a bigger bonus. Yeah, get your greens and what?

SPEAKER_02:

And and the the mouthwash thing with the uh that was yeah. Wow. I've learned so much. So much.

SPEAKER_03:

This is what you're this is what you're known for. You're known as the biohacking libido fairy, let's call it. It's it's absolutely incredible. Um I I think that we're gonna have to get you back on to do several more shows. Especially like around. There's so many quick slides today. We can talk to you all week, but um, Suzanne, this has been absolutely incredible. Uh where can people find you? Where can they read your books? Which you've got 34 now, I think, isn't it? 34 books that you've got.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you, Jordan, and thank you, Sherman, for having me. It's so nice to talk to you, and I really appreciate your loving kindness. Um, I think the best way to get more Susan is to go to betterlover.com and sign up for my newsletter there. I send out a newsletter twice a week that has a whole bunch of articles on all these different things and so many more things, and they're full of free things I give away. You don't have to ever buy anything from me. You can, it's all available, but um, it's just nice to get a sex tips newsletter a couple of times a week. So I'd say betterlover.com is the place to go. You're also welcome to follow me on Instagram. I put mostly what I post on Instagram are um my publicity appearances, so you can go listen to other podcasts and things like that. But you know, whatever, whatever suits you. And the last thing that I would say is if you are on my newsletter and you have a question for me, feel free to just reply to anything you get from me because your reply will go right to my personal inbox and I will reply to you. And I would say eight times out of 10, the question that you ask me, I will have done like a free book, a video, an article or two on. But if it's something that I haven't heard of, I'll help you figure it out. I had a guy who recently emailed me and he was having trouble staying hard and he had tried everything. And I know it was the sensation loss. He had sensation loss. He was only 34, he was a bodybuilder, he was, you know, he. He was in good health. He ate really healthy. And I'm like, why are you getting sensational? I was like, you don't have diabetes, do you? No, I don't have diabetes. Nothing is wrong. And I said, Have you ever had a back injury? And he goes, Yeah, I have I had a terrible back injury and I still have back pain every day. And I was like, that's what it is. You have a you have some nerve damage and you're not getting the sensation from your brain to your penis. And so go to a pelvic therapist, a chiropractor, get an you know, get get help, musculoskeletal help. I bet that's what happened. And I had never gotten that question before. And so I do like the hard ones. Don't oh God, do I like the hard ones? So um don't uh be shy if you've got something you want to ask me. It can be relational, you know, anything, whatever I'm happy to answer. Because you're honestly, the people who follow me and ask me questions are what made me have such a vast amount of experience and knowledge. And so it's really the gift you give me is the questions you ask me. So that's where betterlover.com.

SPEAKER_02:

An amazing hour. Thank you so much. I like I said, I've learned so much that I never thought I'd learn on this podcast.

SPEAKER_03:

Likewise. I go to uni, but I might as well just talk to you.

SPEAKER_01:

My pleasure, guys. I hope I'll come out to Perth and see you soon.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, that would be great. That would be great. Super cool. Thank you so much, Susan.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, all the best. Have a great day.

SPEAKER_03:

Cheers. You too. Bye.

SPEAKER_01:

Bye, guys.

SPEAKER_03:

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