Mindset Is Not Enough with Ranchelle Van Bryce

If you’ve ever felt stuck between personal growth, anxiety, healing, and building a business, this episode of The Karas Wright Show is going to hit home. Karas Wright sits down with Ranchelle Van Bryce for a powerful conversation on mindset coaching, entrepreneurship, self-awareness, trauma, responsibility, and what it really takes to move forward when your thoughts are working against you.

In this episode, Ranchelle shares her evolution from mindset coach to consultant and opens up about the turning point that changed everything in her life and business. Together, Karas and Ranchelle unpack why mindset work can only take you so far, how anxiety and panic attacks don’t have to stop you from building the life you want, and why healing is often less about “fixing

yourself” and more about recognizing what story you’ve been carrying.

This conversation is honest, layered, and deeply human. It explores identity, trauma, intuition, self-awareness, responsibility, and how entrepreneurs can stop outsourcing their power and start trusting themselves again.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

Why mindset coaching alone may not create lasting change

The difference between healing and endlessly trying to fix yourself How anxiety and panic attacks can show up during growth

Why you can still accomplish your dreams while feeling fear The role of self-awareness in leadership and entrepreneurship Responsibility, accountability, and personal agency

Why trauma does not define your identity

Human design, intuition, and authority-based entrepreneurship Practical tools for interrupting overthinking and emotional spirals

How to move forward even when your thoughts are working against you

01:23 Ranchelle’s journey from coaching to consulting 

03:18 Why mindset coaching started to feel incomplete 

05:29 The turning point that changed everything

07:49 What actually shifted after surrender 

10:03 Why you don’t need to fix yourself first 

19:02 What to do when your thoughts spiral

23:16 Anxiety, panic attacks, and moving forward anyway

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Host: Karas Wright — Business & Leadership Coach (Wright Step Coaching)
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Guest : Ranchelle Van Bryce

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

You are 100% um accountable and responsible for everything that happens in your life. And that could be really hard for for people uh who've suffered, right, who had suffering in their life. I've had I've I've had suffering in my life. And uh for me, when I realized that it was a through a series of choices that led me to be in a place and space where this thing happened, right? Um, it happened and was meant to happen, right? So it wasn't an accident. So we'll go back to right and and it happened. And if I if I accept the responsibility for the decisions that I made that led up to that, there it's actually quite freeing because then that that means that you can make any decision in your life to move forward and create anything that you want. Right. And what I found in my life through um, you know, some I I've had not some not great experiences. I was engaged once, my my boyfriend beat me up as an example, right? And so, you know, my daughter and I were talking about the other day, and she said, Are you telling me that was your fault? I said, No, fault is different than responsibility and accountability. But I made a series of decisions that led me to be in a relationship with someone who was abusive. Yes. And then I had this thing happened, and then I made a series of decisions that led me to uh to end the relationship and leave. Although I was very scared because he told me he would kill my my parents if I left.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Thank you for your vulnerability and sharing that experience and the power of shifting from blame, because it's really easy in that situation to blame somebody, but go, okay, what's my responsibility within this? Um, and it is a hard truth. I would I would add very similar vein is that you are not the experiences that happened to you in the past, meaning the trauma. And so when I look at my own experience, um I found out uh through happenstances when I was 13 that the dad that raised me was not my birth father. And then I was sworn to secrecy. Now at 13, when you are going through an identity like that part of your world, um it changed who I thought I was and how I brought that in. That evolving um narrative kept with me. And I had to come across that and recognize that experience was not does not define who I am, does not define the relationships that I bring in, because the narrative was um you don't matter. And this bridges on a conversation that I've had over the last couple of weeks about coaching, consulting. Oh my goodness, what do I choose? How do I navigate through this? But the perspective now is actually from both the customer experience and the client experience, but also the experience from the coach. So I'm thrilled to be able to have a reformed mindset coach, now turned consultant, Ranchelle Van Bryce, who is with me from Ignite Your Success Consulting. Ranchelle, I'm so excited to have you join me. This conversation, I gotta tell you, I knew I needed to have you on. You popped on my Facebook news feed, and your concepts of uh confessions from a mindset coach just gravitated me in. Like, I need to know more. So walk me through a little bit of your evolution and then we'll dive into this whole concept of what you're doing now.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Oh, fantastic. Thank you. So um I won't start at the age of five or anything like that, but I'll just kind of give it a highlight reel. Um I used to own Curves for Women Franchises from 2000 to 2010. And then I went into coaching and I became certified um actually via online WebEx, right? Webinars. Oh, WebEx, remember even before coaching was a thing. And I became certified as a coach and I started coaching in fitness and weight loss, um, kind of my you know, carryover from my curves. And then I started to coach um coaches who were starting a business. And and then I decided to move into business coaching and consulting. This is about 2012, and uh through that experienced opened a sales and marketing agency and uh went through a divorce, uh, moved to Red Deer, Alberta, and decided that I wanted to really focus on my mindset. And this was about 2018. I became a mindset coach, certified as a mindset coach, followed all the mindset people. And uh in at the end of 2023, I was living with my mom and dad. They were going through some health challenges, uh, beginning of 20 uh 24. My father said to me one day, um, you know, for someone who is as great of a as a coach that you are, and a mindset coach, you should be a millionaire. And I don't understand why you're why you're not. And we had done um, we were very successful financially with curves, right? It's a whole other story of burnout and stuff like that. But financially we were super successful. And I kind of laughed, Karis. And then I went to bed that night and thought, um, this is true. And I I started to see a pattern in my um my life and my business, and a pattern in uh my coaches and um mentors in their business, the ones that were truthful at least. And it was this momentum of two steps forward, two steps back. And I thought if um mindset coaching worked, then that shouldn't be as frequently of a groundhog day, right? Like this same thing same thing repeating, different month, different time, different year. And I sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Yeah, I was gonna say I totally forget what we're talking about, uh, because we we do, we get caught in our head and our narrative, and all of a sudden we're making that momentum, and then something slides back. And so if we if it was just about mindset, we'd all got it, we'd all have it figured out.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

We'd all have it figured out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And at the same time, then I was in a um, I was in a uh course that was designed to debunk mindset. And a funny story with that was this was the sixth attempt that I I had taken to be in this course. Because the first five, I was so attached to my narrative. I was so attached to who I was and what I was doing. And I and I would literally would leave in the middle of the training and then and not return. And so because of my what my my my dad said, I thought, what if I actually didn't know? Like, what if I could approach things in a in a very different way? And um, so then I finished this this training that I was compelled to, like every time it came up, I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it now. And I used excuses, like I didn't like the person that was um that was putting it on. I didn't like the audience because people were asking dumb questions. Like I found myself being being very judgmental. And so when I completed this, so between my dad saying something and I completed this, and then I had this um amazing, what I refer to often as my come to Jesus moment, where I literally said to God, I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to be in business. And so what I need from you is a clear sign that I'm meant to even be in business. And it needs to be so apparent to me that I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna second guess it. And I uh went into my was that my parents, they have a jacuzzi time. I went into the jacuzzi time. I always listen to some sort of um Solfegio notes or something on YouTube. I have YouTube premium so I don't have to listen to commercials. I open up my YouTube premium, and um there is this person I've never followed before. There's a thumbnail with a neon writing that says, this is your sign. And so I was like, whoa. Okay, so I know I meant to be in business. I know I meant to do this thing. Um, but obviously I meant to do it differently. And I just surrendered. I was just like, I am willing to approach my life as if I know absolutely nothing. And it um, yeah, it's just it it my my everything completely turned around. My relationships with people turned around, my business turned around. Uh the uh there's uh not one aspect of my life that's turned around. My health has taken a little bit longer to turn around, um, but my health is turned around. Like every every aspect of the things that I was trying to heal and correct my mindset in sometimes successfully, sometimes not, right? That was that pattern uh started to shift. So yeah, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

There, thank you for sharing this. And there's so much that's kind of popping up here. And the theme that's happening for me is this when minds when you can't fool a mindset coach, because we can we can convince ourselves of just about everything. When you had that moment of clarity and you're sitting down going, I need this sign, I'm getting out of business. Okay, you said there was that transition moment and everything changed. What changed?

SPEAKER_00 10:58

Um, I was willing to let go of uh who I thought I was. I was willing to to walk away from the business that I that I thought that I had. Um and the way that I approached my daily life, because I meditate, I journal, I vision. I've always I've always set goals and intent, I've always done that. But there was uh a process that I was that I wasn't doing in mindset. And I had done it earlier, just at an unconscious level, right? I had done it when I had the curves, but unconsciously. And so as I started to, you know, bring this this method of creation forward, um, like it it it I mean, it's not easy. It's a simple. What's difficult about it is stopping the mind stuff, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:54

The automatic negative thoughts, right? The squirrels and the yeah, the things that are pulling us down.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Um and I want to pause just for a second because there is an element of the things that that we teach, because uh I I said it before, and I've always said this, that every coach is a mindset coach, because there is an element of understanding what the mindset is that's holding us back from being wildly successful, and we've got to unpack that. So there are elements there that make sense. The, you know, the journaling, because getting our getting those thoughts outside of our head, down on paper, helps us make meaning of it. The meditation, again, helps us get centered, gets grounded. There is so many scientific studies. And when you look at and unpack the different modalities of psychology, almost all of them have an aspect of uh looking at meditation and mindfulness. So they, and if you look back from a theology standpoint and even a mesa metaphysical standpoint, really important. The act of goal setting, understanding where you want to go, and then making the steps to getting there. But the mindset works only gonna get you so far on that.

unknown 13:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Absolutely. Um, a pivotal moment for me, really, in understanding um, I guess, the transition for me was I was I was um listening to uh a gentleman named Robert Fritz. I'm happy to have happy to give him a comment. He's written uh Your Life is Art. Uh, he's written uh uh Create Create Creation, he's written Your I um oh just identity, like a whole bunch of incredible books. And he's a structural um thinker. And so uh in one of his books, he was talking, he was talking about how Lady Gaga and Beyoncé both believe uh uh that they're not good enough. They both, they both question themselves. They both have a lack of self-confidence, a lack of self-esteem, and a lack of self-love. And yet they're able to create the most beautiful music and win all these awards. And he said, you know, I'm sure there's somebody that you know that isn't a positive thinker, that, you know, maybe he's like a rascal, I think he probably used a different word, right? Um, who you think if if they're doing this, then what and why am I not doing this? And um I thought of, I'm not making this political, but I thought the president of the United States. And I thought, if he can be the president of the United States, and I don't know him personally, so maybe I mean maybe he is really positive, right? Maybe he is has has a positive, I don't know. But I just kept on thinking of people that I would like I'd look at and go, well, if you can do it, like then I should be able to do it. And the shift for me was up until that point and and until this this point in time, I used to think I would love to have X, but I need to fix Y first. Right. And mindset coaching, the actual like mindset coaching, um at least my training was let's work on the Y so you can have X. But the truth is I can I can create, I can manifest anything I want despite of my relationship with money, despite my belief in myself, despite whether I'm positive or negative. And and I need to make a decision of what I desire, which is what we talked about with a goal, an intention, the outcome. But the key is because um tension seeks resolution. So that's one of the creative processes. And you can create your own the a structural tension by going, what's my current reality? What am I what's the story I'm telling myself? What am I experiencing? What are the beliefs I have about myself? And then what do I want? So you go back into the vision, and then you tap into your intuition, into your creative genius and say, okay, like what's next? What do we need to shift, transform, change, happen, do? And the moment you do that, as you get in touch with your intuition, like it just drops. Like it's just like, oh, then do this that's not even related to your vision. And it was just, it was just like for me, it was like, oh, wow. Cause I spent most of my life from a very young age, actually, from the time I was probably 14, I can have X, but I have to change Y. So suddenly telling myself, of course, I'm you're not good enough to get X. You have to do all these things first. And I was never able to do enough of the of the Y.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Right. Because that's the limiting belief that we have there. And I love the parallel to uh my my husband calls him the orange umpalumpa. Um but because you do not have to have anything other than a really clear understanding of what I'm uh what I want, the universe will actually help clear that away because the resonance is there. But also when you know what you want and you can start making those steps to going, okay, what is it that I need to do? And if I look back at my own life and pre-learning the mindset coaching uh and being someone who had and still struggles with uh insane anxiety and panic attacks, I would still do the thing even though I had a panic attack 15 minutes prior. It didn't matter. It was, I am so focused on what I want. I know what I want. It is absolutely clear, and I'm going to move forward despite how I am feeling. But you're right, when we go through all the mindset coaching and that you need X to get to Y or Y to get to X, whatever variable you want to do, it messes with your head because it does create the sense of lack and doubt. And um, maybe I'm not good enough to have that. And we got to toss that out the window because that's almost the thing that's holding us back from actually moving forward. It's like, oh, you can't, we're gonna actually not just have um barriers in your way, you're all you're all of a sudden shack on yourself from being able to move forward. So I really appreciate you sharing that because I think there's a lot of uh our like our listeners and people, not just women, but I think it's really resonant to women. There's a lot of individuals that are going, oh, well, I've got to fix X, Y, Z before I move forward. No, you can do that and move forward.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

And even if you don't solve X, you can still have Y.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Yes. And you know, the mindset coaching when they talk, let's, you know, I'll I'll go into like um belief busting as an example, right? Like if you get rid of this belief or you you develop a better, as I said earlier, a better relationship with money, or you um dive into your core wound, and which and I've I wrote a book on core wounds. And if you get to the root of it, uh then you can figure that out, and then you can trick your mind to believe by using affirmations that because your mind doesn't know the difference between reality and um and imagination. And so there's so that there's a part of that that's true. There's a science, there's a right, there's neuroscience creating neural pathways, yes. And, you know, if you let's say you're making, I don't know,$35,000 a year, and then you decide that you want to be a millionaire. And so every day you get up, I am a millionaire, I have a millionaire mindset, I am a millionaire, I have a millionaire mindset. In the back of your head, you hear, well, that's not true. You can't do that. You don't know how to do that. You know, then you gotta go to school, you've got to get, you gotta get your PhD, I mean, whatever it is. And then you're like, no, I'm just gonna affirm my way to it. The more you affirm and don't actually deal with deal with in the sense of bring up and and be so radically honest about the stuff that's going on, right? That unconscious now becomes a conscious uh um limiting belief just gets louder and louder and louder. And there's so much evidence for us of all of the failures that we had. And we then we can say, oh, I didn't fail, I just learned. But like in my head, because of how I'm um my belief systems and the way that I was raised, I can't talk myself into thinking those were just experiences. They felt like failures. So when I finally brought that up, this felt like a failure because da-da-da-da-da-da. And this triggered my um belief systems of I'm not capable, I don't have a capacity, I'm powerless, uh, this is the way things are, and um, and I'm not part of it, right? I don't have value, I don't have worthiness, I'm not lovable. There are haves and have nots, and I'm a have not, right? I need to justify my existence to the world. Those are the ones that run just, you know, on a regular basis. And if I just try to ignore them, they don't go away. They just get louder and louder. But if I bring them to the surface and I have conversation with them, I'm like, oh, that's just my I have to justify my existence. So I don't need to overexplain a proposal that I sent out.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Really when I think about what you're talking about in terms of though, if we don't deal with the actual cognition that's popping up, and we don't look at the emotion and feel that emotion all the way from one end to the other, it is going to repeat itself. And so we end up in rumination, catastrophizing. Um, those limiting beliefs become so much more amplified. And so I really would love you to share. Some of the things that you do in the moment when you recognize, ah, that cognition is popping up. What do you do? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Um, so the first thing I do is just allow the feeling to reside in my body, right? And so when I feel that way, my stomach, like I feel that in my stomach. So and my stomach starts to turn. Um if I brought in an element of human design, you know, into it for those of your followers of human design, I'm a reflector. So I don't actually my my I don't have an inner authority. So I don't have a sacral authority or an emotional authority. So if my guts are speaking to me, it's actually my nervous system warning me. It's not a same thing. And for the longest time I thought it was right, my intuition warning me. But it's my right, so it's my fears that are being played onto my body. So the first thing I do is just recognize and um for me, just settle into my body. Where am I feeling this? And what uh thought um triggered it, you know, what event maybe triggered it, what person, you know, what like what triggered it, and to sit in that, not to resolve it, but just to bring it into awareness so that I could tell the truth about it. And when I do that, I'm like, oh, okay. Right. I'm afraid of so I'll I'll give a real life example. I'm um I'm uh about to buy uh what today the paperwork's being signed for me to partner with somebody and buy a franchise. We're opening a brand new franchise in in it's new to Canada. And so I'm sending a large chunk of change to somebody, and I start to panic. And uh and I know that this is the this is uh the the correct decision for me. Um, you know, it I was intuitively led like there's all of the signs, right? But I'm but I have a fear that I'm gonna make a mistake with money because my past is riddled with um taking risks with money and it sometimes not panning out. I don't remember all the times it panned out, right? Like, right, I'm not carrying that. I'm just I'm carrying like, oh, and I'm just making, I'm I'm just making another mistake with my money. What if this doesn't work? And then I'm just like, oh, that's just a storyline, right? That's just my conditioning of um, oh, Ransol, you're you know, you're so you're so nice, but you're just not great with money. Right. So my my parents used to say to me, oh, you're just you're so awesome, you're so loyal, um, but you suck with money. Right. So it's like, oh, I'm just I'm just I'm just playing that out. Okay, cool. Yeah. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

So it's acknowledging where you're at and the emotion that's popping up, what might be triggering in the background, sitting with it and just acknowledging, uh, yeah, there's that story again.

unknown 24:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

That's interesting. And deciding what you want to do with it at that moment.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

And then go back to what would I love?

SPEAKER_02 24:54

What would I love? And how does this, right? And changing the cognition there. And it's interesting because you know, when we have, and uh there, I I would love I don't think I've ever met somebody who doesn't have something that triggers them. We all have something that triggers us. It's how you choose to acknowledge it and recognize that it's going in. Because anytime that happens, we have an emotion and we have that experience. And when we don't, when we don't acknowledge that emotion, we can't file it. And so when something similar comes back in, we're right back here. So we need to be able to just disassociate that and decouple that through exactly what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah, absolutely. I've still we were talking earlier, I love, I love neuroscience. Um, you know, I I love neuroplasticity. I and there's so much of it that I believe, I think that the world of mindset coaching has um bastardized it, right? Has taken it and to use it to their advantage uh so that people will buy their thing. Because if you don't have the right mindset, you're not gonna have the business that you you know love or that you want. If you don't have the right mindset, you're not gonna have the relationship that you want. And so it's it's been kind of contorted, right? And and I'm not I'm not blaming anyone. It's I think that it's an industry, like it's an industry fault, right? Um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

It I I wanna change the narrative of I can be the person that has this and this. I can be anxious and still accomplish all my dreams.

unknown 26:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

I can be the person who has the occasional panic attack, but I can recognize when that happens, sit in it, get past it. Like I can remember a month ago, I had a panic attack on the way home. My husband's sitting next to me and he's going, What's going on? I'm like, I'm having a panic attack, and this is what I'm feeling, and this is why it's triggering. He's like, This is really interesting. He's like, What do you need right now? I said, I just need to sit in this emotion right now because we're doing something really big. There was an investment that was happening, and it's picking this up because I had the pre-conceived notions about money. And I'm like, oh, like, okay. Yeah, that's what I'm feeling. This is what's coming up. Here's that old paradigm. I see you, I hear you, I acknowledge you and honor where you had were in my existence in the past, but that doesn't serve a purpose in today's day and age because I know cognitively that I've made the right decision. Yes, it may fail. That's okay. I also recognize that I've been through failures before. I can pick up, I can go, and everything's gonna be okay. It's interesting. So in the work that you're doing now, what has actually shifted for you?

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Um I would say then uh an adoption of and a desire to develop something uh that I'm referring to as authority-based entrepreneurship. And if I believe that entrepreneurs, um if they trusted themselves, their intuition, like intuition, and they develop some sort of spiritual connection, however that would be for them. And it's not even mutually exclusive, they could develop intuition and not develop um a relationship with a higher power. For me, those come together. So the people that work with tend to work with me, tend to have that same philosophy. And um, if we can tap into our sort of through the lens of human design, tap into our strategy and authority, magic unfolds. It absolutely does, because we become our own sovereign being.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

I'm gonna sorry to interrupt. I think there's a lot of people who, and I know um human design. Uh I'm a manifesting generator. So that's where I'm at. But there's a lot of people that don't understand. So just bring context to your authority-based entrepreneurship. Tell us more about what human design is and how that actually can help.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

So human design in the most simple terms, you know, I like to explain it as a combination of astrology, eaching, um, a little bit of numerology, and uh the Kabbalah. And it's based on your uh birth time and place. And when you uh input that data into the software, it gives you an energy type. So you're a manifesting generator. There are generators, manifestors, projectors, and reflectors. So each of each one of us has their our own strategy and inner authority depending on the human design type. So let's say somebody is a uh SACL authority, that means that they'll get a very um succinct uh-huh or uh uh a yes or a no, like their intuition is super strong. If they're an emotional authority, uh, which is those are the most common, they get a yes, but it it could shift within 24 hours up to 72 hours. So what happens with that person who's an emotional authority? They start to doubt their intuition. Because it was such a strong yes to begin with, and then it changes to a no. Right. And then we have, I'll just use those because there's so many there's lots, but those are the two most common. And then with a reflector for myself, I have no inner authority. Well, um, yeah, I have no inner authority. I don't have a uh-huh or uh-uh, or any of that, right? So for me, um, it's important that I'm in the presence of somebody, not for them to tell me what to do, but for me to actually have a conversation um, or just even be present and journal, or journaling alone, uh, all those will will help me with my particular um inner authority. Then the strategy is a little bit different. So my strategy as a reflector is to wait 28 days to make big bigger, make big decisions. So you can imagine, you know, there's a little bit of because everyone's like so fast, right? Um, and then we have yeah, people who are meant to inform, right? Uh so inform their audience and uh and then initiate. And then we have our generators and manifesting generators who are meant to respond. And so that's just a little bit different. And then we have our projectors who are meant to wait for the invitation. Because the world right now is so fast moving. And um, and I believe because of the an overabundance of information out there of people saying, if you do it this way, buy my system, here's my blueprint, here's my framework. And if you do it this way, then you will, da-da-da-da. And so somebody like me, a reflector, goes and buys a program from a manifestor who's meant to inform. And that program doesn't work for me because I'm trying to follow their strategy and their authority, unconscious. I don't know that, and then it doesn't necessarily work the way that it's meant to work. It might work for a little while, then we blame ourselves. Right. And so, so for me, this philosophy is um is you know, following our inner guidance. Now, if someone didn't follow human design, I would just, you know, suggest to them, you know, tap in and tune into and learn how your intuition speaks to you. And follow your intuition. And that can be difficult with the amount of influence that we have.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Which I think is really important because there are some people that are going to listen to this and go, okay, you two, this is a little woo-hoo. But it really is about if I even take it one step remote, even further removed, and say it's about self-awareness of how do you lead? How do you plan your business? And what is it that you need in order to be at your best to serve your staff, your team, your clients, and the broader purpose of what you want. And so when we, because we do very similar work, and I do bring some of what you uh what you are talking about into my work as a leadership coach and consultant, but I'm also really aware of there's limitations to what everybody's belief is. So where are where we intersect, and I think this is really fascinating, is that it's not about buy mine and you're going to transform. It's a you do the work, and I'm going to help understand who you are and how you need to transform this yourself by taking the tools, the information, the way your mind works and how you process your nervous system processes, because my work in uh becoming a counselor is all about understanding the nervous system and how we connect with the world. So it's the same thing with a slightly different lens on it. But it comes down to, you know, you're the one that has to make the transformation happen. I'm gonna help with the conduit and the frameworks and the information.

unknown 34:28

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:28

And so it's so different. I have a couple of clients, I have a uh gentleman who owns a roofing company. And I introduced him to human design. And I was, you know, I usually work with women. So I start, you know, I've worked with a couple men the last over the last year or so. I was really nervous, um, Keris bringing it in. Uh, and and I just said to him, Would you be open to um maybe something you've not done before? And he said, Yeah, sure. And so then I shared with him uh his his strategy and authority and and and then we compared it to when he actually unconsciously followed that or didn't, and then the the results that he had, if he didn't or he did. And he could then look back and go, oh my goodness, you know, if I fall, if I go this way, he's a projector. If I go this way, then this happens. And if I, if I, you know, take the bull by the horns and I take control, then this is what happens. And so he's learning to be in a a place in space, to trust himself and to, but not to buy into the hustle culture of a male-dominated industry of let's go, let's go, let's go. Right. So it it it's um, it's been a lot of fun for sure.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

And it would be. It's interesting because I am a big believer in uh whether it's finding through self-awareness through human design or another mechanism, the importance of things like assessments. So, and it doesn't really matter what it is, as long as you are getting awareness of how you interact. So whether it's disk or motivators or emotional intelligence or whatnot, it's all about understanding how you connect with yourself and how that interacts with the world and understanding um, well, if somebody else is slightly different, how are they going to receive and what do they need? So it's that perception of uh interactions and connection.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

Yeah. Yeah. And I I think the other thing that I really love about human design, you know, uh coming from the business perspective, is your entire marketing plan is in your human design. And so there's so many people out there looking for the right way to build their business. And so I'm like, this is it's a map. And and you spend time in contemplating it and uh and being an awareness of you know where you are right now, how you're how you're performing right now, how are you behaving right now, you know, what's going on behind that, but switching so that you can actually see like how you're meant to communicate, right? So your vocation is in there, your purpose is in there, your prosperity is in there, your um how you're meant to develop relationships and build relationships. And the shadow pieces are are all in our human design. Yeah. And the and so for me, it's just been fascinating to study it because it's like it's it's all there. It's a math.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

I was sharing with a friend of mine who does not believe in uh human design or that type of metaphysical um thought pattern. Because they're like, well, are you trying to tell me by understanding my astrology chart, when I was born, where I was born, is this not all pre-clandestine then? Like where that you can't tell me that because in their mindset, it's well, uh then where's my agency?

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Yeah. You know, and it's fascinating for me because for me, I like I guess my personal belief system is we're, you know, we're all here for a purpose, whatever that purpose is. And it doesn't have to be like a grand like um purpose, like become the president, right? Or uh become the world peace, right? But each one of us has that. And I believe that free will comes in uh when we actually come from a place of sovereignty, right? And we make decisions along the way. But the end result, by the time that we like get to the end, it's where we were destined to be. But there's like 2.1 million paths.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Absolutely, right? Like there every decision splits off and and different doors we could have done. It's interesting as I think about my entrepreneur, my own entrepreneurial journey and other individuals, is like, oh, well, you could have done however many different options. I mean, look at you going from curves to coaching to another endeavor, and we can reinvent ourselves. It's the awareness of how do I how do I connect with myself, my world, and what am I wanting to achieve in the time that we have on this this earth, the finite time we have? It's really fascinating. Um, so we do a segment here at the Keres Rate show that is uh questions from the audience. So are you willing to play? Got a couple of things. I know, yes, absolutely. Uh so we've got a question from Lawrence, which is what's a hard truth most people don't want to hear, but need to if they actually want to grow? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 39:38

A hard truth people don't want to hear but need to so that they can grow.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

You are 100% um accountable and responsible for everything that happens in your life. Say more words. Um and that could be really hard for for people uh who've suffered, right, who had suffering in their life. I've had I've I've had suffering in my life. And uh for me, when I realized that it was a through a series of choices that led me to be in a place in space where this thing happened, right? Um, it happened and was meant to happen, right? So it wasn't an accident. So we'll go back to right, and and it happened. And if I if I accept the responsibility for the decisions that I made that led up to that, there it's actually quite freeing because then that that means that you can make any decision in your life to move forward and create anything that you want. Right. And what I found in my life through um, you know, some I I've had not some not great experiences. I was engaged once, my my boyfriend beat me up as an example, right? And so, you know, my daughter and I were talking about the other day, and she said, Are you telling me that was your fault? I said, No, fault is different than responsibility and accountability. But I made a series of decisions that led me to be in a relationship with someone who was abusive. Yes. And then I had this thing happened, and then I made a series of decisions that led me to uh to end the relationship and leave. Although I was very scared because he told me he would kill my my parents if I left. Right. And so, and and I and I phoned my mom and dad to to tell them, you know, my dad's, you know, so bold, let him come. I'll take care of it. Right, it was really awesome. Right. And my mom said, I'll get you out of there right away. And I left home when I was quite young, so I wasn't in a relationship with my parents at the time, you know. So in my, I was responsible, accountable. I made all of these decisions from the, you know, all along that led me to this experience. And it was it, was it a really crappy experience in the moment of time? Absolutely. And but there were so many beautiful opportunities and experiences for me, learnings. I don't call them lessons, but learnings so that I would make different decisions in my future about the men that I chose to be with.

SPEAKER_02 42:05

Yeah. Thank you for your vulnerability and sharing that experience and the power of shifting from blame, because it's really easy in that situation to blame somebody, but go, okay, what's my responsibility within this? Um, and it is a hard truth. I would, I would add very similar vein, is that you are not the experiences that happened to you in the past, meaning the trauma. And so when I look at my own experience, um I found out uh through happenstances when I was 13 that the dad that raised me was not my birth father. And then I was sworn to secrecy. Now, at 13, when you are going through an identity like that part of your world, um it changed who I thought I was and how I brought that in. That evolving um narrative kept with me. And I had to come across that and recognize that experience was not does not define who I am, does not define the relationships that I bring in, because the narrative was um you don't matter, right? Uh I don't from a parental standpoint, you don't matter, you don't, uh your decisions and how you show up in the world and my ability to take care of you. No. And so being able to go, okay, it's not that. I actually have the ability to go and shift and change and make the decision. Again, it's a choice on what is the narrative. That I'm going to assign to that. Now there's a lot of therapy and a lot of work behind there that had to come beyond, but it was also being able to recognize and go back to that parent years later and say, I forgive you for that experience. And here's what happened to me. And here's how I um interpreted that. And here was the net effect. Um, I still want to be in a relationship with you because there was a point in time where we weren't talking, but it's not going to define me anymore. Um, so I do forgive you, I'm not going to forget, and I'm going to set those boundaries in place to be able to do that. And I think that's really an important thing. And both on that side of responsibility and letting go of the blame, because believe me, Rochelle, I blamed that parent for decades. And if I would have come to that realization earlier, how much easier my own life would have been, because I'm the one that put that on myself. And then I burdened other people unnecessarily.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Yeah.

unknown 45:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:13

And the other part of that too is when you know you're talking about is, you know, the accepting of responsibility and um, and we can do that whether there is, you know, great things that have happened to us or not great things that have happened to us. And so, you know, on on both sides of the coin. And so uh, and so, you know, our identity can get involved and we can carry the the the genius that, you know, and we define ourselves then by that. But we have an opportunity to surrender that as well, right? So the success um also uh does not need to define us in a positive or negative way. It's just the is-ness of it, right? So it's like having this experience and loving the experience, but it doesn't make me a better person or a worse person. It doesn't mean I think when we start to really surrender into the greatness of who we are at whatever level, meaning I'm if I'm in my shadow, right? I'm having a bad day and I'm judging whatever, I'm still as brilliant and beautiful as I was yesterday when I was on top of the world and I closed a great deal.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

Yeah. The is-ness of what it is, right? I like that. The is-ness. It's the act of just being in the moment. So I've got another question that's coming up from Donna. When your thoughts are working against you, the doubt, the fear, the overthinking, what's one practical way you can shift out of that in the moment?

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Oh, um, well, you could do a pattern interrupt, right? So if you're in that moment, do something completely different, stomp your feet, right? Pat your arms, like you do some sort of somatic work that way. Um I often uh say out loud and and I and I usually like jump and go, stop. Right. That's how I do it. To just like really interrupt this pattern of behavior. Um, like that gets me out of things very quickly, right? So something physical um in in that way for me works. Yeah and just the reminder in spite of, right? I was presenting um uh to a group of nonprofits the other day, and I was super uncomfortable. It's not my world. And I even checked in two or three times. Are you sure you want me to facilitate this? Because I'm, you know, this is I've not uh you speak a different language than I do, and I and but I wanted to, and they're like, no, this is great. And so I'm in it and I'm thinking, I just was feeling like a huge imposter. And I was sitting there and I'm stumbling upon my words, and I'm just really feeling out of sorts. And I um took my feet and did this to my toes to get myself out and start to move my ankle a little bit to get just something physical to get me out of uh imposter syndrome. And then it's a reminder, right? Um, that I belong here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Thank you for that. And I would add to that, I think there's we have to acknowledge the fact that physiologically what's happening is our lizard brain, like the oldest part of our brain that was developed at the back of our brain is what's taking over. And so our most recent part of our brain being our prefrontal cortex is going offline. We can't hear, we can't see, we're not thinking clearly. And so what you're talking about is actually breaking that pattern of amygdala takeover because it serves, it served and it still serves a purpose to keep us alert, keep us safe, run away from saber-toothed tigers. But we don't have saber-toothed tigers anymore. So what we need to do is kind of bring our prefrontal cortex back online and go, yeah, that was an amygdala response. One really interesting one, um, because I'm going to add to the list that you gave that I just read. And uh it was a scientific study that was done, I think it um can't remember which school down in the States, but uh sucking on um sour candy or sour gummy works because it shocks you, the gleakers, it shocks you out of that response. Um, but in absence of that, the um moving your fingers, I love the concept of just drawing on the fingers or being able to can I hear what are five things that I see that are green in the room? What are three things that I hear? What can I touch? What are two things that I can touch? Right. So kind of counting down the senses, five, four, three, two, one gives you that, you know, 90 seconds just to come back into yourself.

unknown 49:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

I love that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

Yeah. So I want to thank you so much, Ranchel. Um this is a stay tuned because I think there's more that we can unpack. We didn't even talk about how you can bring this isness into business. Are you up for a part? Part two. A part du? Yeah, I'd love to see you. A part due? Fantastic. Somebody wants to get in touch with you. Oh. How do they do that?

SPEAKER_00 50:31

Um, you know what? Uh, they can definitely find me on Facebook if they want to and message me there. So to Ranshell Van Brace. Uh, or they can give me um a text. Don't call because I'm usually like my phone's on, do not disturb. Or they can text and my phone number, I'll give that out loud as 780-679-7275. And just text me and tell me that you heard me here, and we'll get connected. Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

I want to thank you very much for sharing so much of yourself, your experiences, what you bring to the world. It's this is going to touch a lot of people. And um, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, and I want to encourage you to continue to lead with heart yourself, which I know you will. And stay tuned for part two. Part two.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

Thank you. Thank you, Ruan. Wow, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

Awesome.