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From Wine Mysteries to Fusion Futures: A Journey Through Culture, Climate, and Education
Unlock the secrets behind wine distribution, challenge assumptions, and explore how even Nebraska finds itself intertwined in global supply chains. Ever wondered about the availability of your favorite Napa Valley wines at a Costco abroad? We take you on a thoughtful journey through the intertwined worlds of climate change and pop culture. From the glitz of popular shows to the pressing realities of renewable energy, the conversation embraces both the challenges and opportunities of transitioning to eco-friendly practices. Could nuclear fusion redefine our future, or will the grip of fossil fuels persist? We explore the societal shifts necessary for a sustainable future, aiming to illuminate how this evolution might redefine economic structures and our everyday lives.
Education also finds its spotlight, as we reflect on the role of parents and mentors in navigating the overwhelming influx of information that today's youth face. Through personal stories, we discuss the evolution of homeschooling and charter schools as viable alternatives to public education, each offering unique paths tailored to diverse learning needs. As we wrap up, we examine the implications of dual parental support, drawing parallels to how athletes benefit from a synergistic team. With humor and insights, we promise more engaging conversations ahead, inviting you to journey with us through these fascinating topics.
You don't gotta do it if you don't want to. You don't gotta do it if you don't want to. You don't gotta do it if you don't want to. It's just a suggestion. Welcome back to the conversation.
Speaker 2:This is our last episode ever.
Speaker 1:I thought it would be nice to let my hair out and psyched in the green. Let your hair down, yeah, out down up around. So last time on the conversation we spent time talking about random stuff that ChatGPT said was popular in the moment. We're going to continue that today. Thank you, oh, my pleasure. That's so stupid and we're going to continue that today. And in continuing with our theme, we're continuing to drink wine. It's a different wine today.
Speaker 2:Today it's a acclaimed, which is a napa valley wine by precision wines uh, and we live in california and napa is just a stone's throw away I'm sure another costco.
Speaker 1:I bought both these wines for the last two episodes at Costco.
Speaker 2:So probably everybody gets these wines. No, no, not all Costco's are the same. No, why not? It's regional, it's what they can get at that product's best right. So if, for example, if produce from Nicaragua is great there, they're not shipping it all the way over there to sell at Costco.
Speaker 1:Can I say you know very little about how groceries work.
Speaker 2:Tell me a grocery story again, please.
Speaker 1:Sure thing, lenny. So the reality is there's no fucking wine in Nebraska, so they're shipping all the wine to Nebraska, and it's coming from the Napa Valley.
Speaker 2:Okay, so wine aside, but not every. So. Costco's in Korea and Japan and China are different than ours.
Speaker 1:Are you comparing Japan's Costco to the breadth of the United States? Have you explored Japan's Costco?
Speaker 2:Can we keep it to the United?
Speaker 1:States? No, we cannot. So where we live in the Central Valley of California, it used to be the asparagus capital of the world.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, it's no longer such, I know, so sad.
Speaker 1:Yes, even us. We get all of our asparagus from Argentina. So does Nebraska. It's a great shame, just like the wine. So there's no concept of regional produce anymore at a macro scale, like Costco, your argument is not valid. Google it Fact, check me, I don't care. Anyway, precision wines.
Speaker 2:Do you think they have Napa Valley wines in China, Korea?
Speaker 1:Fuck yeah, I do, you do yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're going to find out.
Speaker 1:During the course of this episode. I will look that up because, hey, hey, this is a real philosophical moment.
Speaker 2:Which we did not expect to happen.
Speaker 1:I'll get to the wine, but and I'll look up who said this but I read recently that that you know a ceo of a company said talk like you're right, listen like you're wrong. That's a really good thing to say. So, hey, you may be right, I may be wrong, probably not. However, if you just assume you are always right, you do not have the potential for growth, you don't have the capacity for it. You don't have the understanding that you may be wrong, that your perceptions of the worldviews that you hold dear may be incorrect. Listen like you're wrong and then fucking google it, because we live in a world where all the answers are at our fingertips. Precision wines present a distinguished and diverse collection. Each wine is made with meticulous attention to detail and a commitment to quality. Blah, blah, blah. Their about is not as interesting as the Portuguese wine that we had last episode. However, precision wines made the wine that we're drinking today. It's from Napa Valley. Welcome back to the Conversation Podcast. I am Letter K. With me, as always, is Syke, who, as an honorary member of the Goonies, will never die, now that you're on the internet. It's true, it's true. Never die Now that you're on the internet. It's true. It's true.
Speaker 1:We're continuing the conversation today about the most popular things in the moment According to ChatGPT. We've already talked about AI-generated content and creativity. We've already talked about holiday inclusivity. I have a couple of things to add to what we offered last time. So continuing with sustainability trends, eco-friendly holiday shopping, renewable energy and such. We also have ethical holiday shopping, renewable energy and such. We also have ethical holiday shopping. A lot of ethics in cultural norms, I see Social media and mental health is also on the list. Still, we're adding to the list today.
Speaker 1:Pop culture hits oh, okay, uh, it gives examples of things I've never encountered. Oh, I have, yeah. And it says shows like the Circus, which I've never heard of yeah, your expression and has Been Hotel are dominating conversations about their unique storylines Never seen. These Might be interesting to check those out. Or you could discuss High Potential, check GPT. Or you could discuss High Potential, something you're already familiar with, and notice that I'm watching High Potential, which is a great. So I love serial murder mysteries. Leonard Kaye loves murder mysteries from start to finish, from the beginnings of time to the ends of contemporary you know High Potential's a great show, by the way, anyway and climate action of time to the ends of contemporary, you know. High Potential is a great show, by the way, anyway. And Climate Action, climate Action is on there, so, slyke, can you select one of those? Would you like to kick off, will I?
Speaker 2:just fan my hair out For the fans at. At home, we will vacuum, dust, lint roll every. Can we pause this? Can we pause?
Speaker 1:of course not do I need to put my hair back up?
Speaker 2:just don't do that. It's too late.
Speaker 1:No don't, don't, it's not, don't, it's. Stop doing that, because I've already done it.
Speaker 2:Discontinue. Yes, yes, there we are, we agree, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:This is good.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I I like the portuguese one better uh, so I am still stuck on your quote talk like you are right, listening like you are wrong. That's amazing, that is, that's good and that's memorable. Talk like you are right, listen like you are wrong. Okay, pop culture hits. No. Not interested has been until High potential Adam.
Speaker 1:Grant, a renowned organizational psychologist and author.
Speaker 2:Sounds like a psychologist.
Speaker 1:Yes, it aligns closely with themes he explores in his book Origins, which encourages individuals to confidently express their ideas while remaining open to criticism and alternative viewpoints. This is a very Socratic method. Yeah, asking questions instead of inferring answers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's start with climate.
Speaker 1:Let's go to the bottom please.
Speaker 2:So going through school.
Speaker 1:Long time ago. It's not that long ago, you ain't that?
Speaker 2:old Calm down. We had global warming.
Speaker 1:Yes, now it's climate change.
Speaker 2:Global warming, rebranded as climate change.
Speaker 1:Not politically actionable enough.
Speaker 2:In between. That rebranding was the inconvenient truth with Al Gore. Not to get political at all, let's get political. You did it? No, I don't. No, it's not politicized, although we could make it that, but that particular documentary, very few. If any of those predictions actually happened, they didn't happen. Okay, so daily living, in everyday life, I'm looking at what's practical. Okay, if you tell me you're vegan, I'm vegan. What shoes is he wearing? Do you have leather shoes?
Speaker 1:No, you can't, You're not. No, because I'm vegan.
Speaker 2:If you tell me you are trying to save the planet and you have solar panels on your car, all right, great. What do you drive? Oh well, I have a pickup For example, if let's say you don't want to invest or participate in anything fossil fuels at all, All right, Do you have any plastics in your home?
Speaker 1:have you ever, have you ever heard the joke that, because all like most of electricity is generated by coal or some kind of burning, that anybody who has an electric car is just pretending?
Speaker 2:yes, so that is, that is true. Most of the tesla superchargers are, in fact, powered by coal, that's, and even if it weren't, all of the minerals and rare earth minerals and everything that's deep within the ground was excavated by fossil and then it was shipped with planes and trains and automobiles and boats, and boats all the way across the planet to get to you with fossil fuels. So how do you balance?
Speaker 1:that I think that it's a feel-good concept. At this point in our lives, I am doing my best to save the planet because I have solar panels and because I'm using an electric car and because I am growing my own organic produce in my backyard. The reality of it is that we're not quite there yet and while you can, incrementally okay, I'm going to stop you, just stop me, and my statement was going to be prolific. Now I can't remember what I was saying. Yeah, where?
Speaker 2:is there there? Where is there there?
Speaker 1:you said we're not there yet. We are not T-H-E-I-R. How's that there? We are not there yet where we are at a place where fusion has created a point where we are creating, where we're inventing more energy than we are expelling, you're talking nuclear Fusion.
Speaker 2:More energy than we are expelling. We're talking nuclear fusion. So okay, so in california, google is requesting, they're asking for that option. You know I worked where, I know you, I know where they, where they created it happens where they created nuclear fusion for the first time, I know, earlier this year.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's not there yet. Give it 20 years. Everyone has free shit for energy. However, now we're still living where we're at, but this creates a larger conversation. We are a capitalist society. We have created this whole world around the burning of fossil fuels. When nuclear fusion is a regular household thing or it's available, how long before we can comfortably eliminate all of these industries surrounded around fossil fuel generation so that we can all have free energy?
Speaker 2:Yes, that is what most people well, the people that are the custodians of those fields, that's their fear.
Speaker 1:If you're thinking rationally, yes.
Speaker 2:I don't need to have Chevron anymore. I'm not monitoring BP anymore.
Speaker 1:Why do I do? The oil industry is massive. We have an entire subset of our stock market designed to watch oil production. What happens when that's no longer necessary, when we don't?
Speaker 2:have to.
Speaker 1:Saudi Arabia, and I guarantee you the quadrillionaires are not going to let that die without a fight, there's going to be far less princes in the future a fight, there's going to be far less princes in the future. Well, I mean, if they, if they, if they engaged in basic bond marketing based on the fact that they all have trillions of dollars, they should be okay so yeah, day-to-day climate all right.
Speaker 2:If, if you really believe this and a lot of people say it and they want okay to okay are you recycling?
Speaker 1:I am. I love recycling.
Speaker 2:You are, I know, but the average person. It's so much fun, the average person.
Speaker 1:They give you a bin to do it. Throw your shit in there and they take it.
Speaker 2:But they don't. Do you have compost, are you?
Speaker 1:So kind of fun? Do you have compost? Are you so kind of fun? One of so Jim's son's spouse is a bioengineer Brilliant person, they're brilliant. The last time we got together I asked them about their what they were doing right, what they were doing, Because I knew they had found a job at UC Davis or some such UC something or other, and they were talking about how they were developing these worm boxes to give to households to compost. I mean, yes, that's old, no, no, but it's been around a while. Yeah, no, it's been around.
Speaker 2:I had one out here.
Speaker 1:I mean, yes, that's old, no, no, but it's been around a while. Yeah, no, it's been around. I had one out here. Yeah, calm down. My aunt and uncle when I was a kid had one in their backyard in Oregon. But we're talking about contemporizing the concept, putting it in households, not just you, not just my aunt and uncle, my hippies, everybody.
Speaker 1:No, you, not just my aunt and uncle, my hippies, and everybody. No, it's you're talking about, you know. So it's not old news, it is. No, it's been around a while. No, it's not. Yes, yes, but how many ideas. Think about tesla, nikola tesla, and how lost, how old his ideas for energy are. And now we're starting to embrace those concepts. So your argument's invalid.
Speaker 2:No, it's not Because his ideas. Do you know how many patents he owned?
Speaker 1:It's not. You're missing the relevance of my…. No, but all of his ideas were suppressed because yeah, I get it Business, but same thing with composting it's a business acumen. And now we're at a point where we're starting to talk about contemporizing the idea.
Speaker 2:I think it's just more. It's become more popular or trending. That's all I mean. Well, that's what we're given.
Speaker 1:That's what you asked for. What is?
Speaker 2:popularity, but when 51% or when 50.5% of the population agrees, yes, yes, agrees yes, yes, but we have an so.
Speaker 1:So I would argue that 51 of the population does not agree that composting is viable or necessary now, yeah. However, we live in a culture where it is an idea that can be resurfaced okay, and reimagined and represented all right worms, worms aside. Worms aside.
Speaker 2:Both of my sisters went to UC Davis, so did my mom. Yes, they went there, and I've been there many times and I know people that have worked there, gone to school there and currently teach there, and I have practiced at least to the degree that you have prescribed or at least outlined here. And uh, my apologies to Jim's uh.
Speaker 1:Jim's son's son's yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, this is old news and potentially a dead end.
Speaker 1:I disagree. I disagree because ideas are brilliant at a time, not necessarily when they are relevant. Right, that's a pretty good period. I disagree with you, so that's fine, let your hair out, bro. Let's talk about this like men. My hair is extravagant, it is, and we can't see it because it's pulled up in the back of your head. Okay, so let's talk about talking about composting worms.
Speaker 1:I kind of think it's fun. I think it's a fun idea and I think that it has relevant value. So my cousin, let's fucking keep talking about this. My cousin, when he was alive, worked for the state government agency that manages garbage dumps, right.
Speaker 2:Right, landfills, huh Yeahs.
Speaker 1:Alright Landfills, landfills, and his job was to catalog the methane growth in landfills. We all know, or some of us know, that methane generates naturally in landfills. We all know, or some of us know, that methane generates naturally in landfills. However, what causes the methane? Is it organics? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:let me ask it's a gas and it can thank you. Thank you, bill nye. It's a gas and yes, it can. Well, many cattle fields ranchers aren't people that are against global warming or the climate change. Cite this, as we don't need the beef anymore. No more cattle, let's stop. Because of methane. But methane is a product of what the cows are consuming and going through the stomachs and so on so we're coming out all right.
Speaker 1:It's called shit, it's pooping. So, according to chad jpt, organic waste is the number one cause of methane in landfills. There you go. So with that in mind, with that knowledge, in our hands.
Speaker 2:Eat more burgers.
Speaker 1:What the fuck? No, not the point. My point is if we took organic food waste and put it in a fucking worm box, would that? I've done that, thank you. Thank you for your fucking service. If that, if we all did that, we all had an organic box and it was a federal or state law that caused us to need to put all of our organic food waste in a separate bin that was eaten by worms, would that? Would that reduce the the anaerobic compost in our landfills and would there be overarching benefits to that? That's what my bass players, sons I'm trying really hard, hey, I'm trying really hard, hey, I'm trying really hard. Significant other is attempting to assess. And, yes, can we talk about how?
Speaker 1:it's already been assessed so I love that I'm drunk right now, because this is really poignant. Every time that I have engaged with my bass player's son's significant other, I have failed. I live in a generation where the concepts of LGBTQ plus and non-binary and those things they don't exist LGBTQ plus and non-binary and those things they don't they didn't exist. So I really I mean I try to focus and I really want to be respectful and I really want to be understanding and I really do respect the individual's right to choose who they are. I really do.
Speaker 1:However, when I'm drinking, you know your, your, your, your. Your cognitive wherewithal is not what it should be or not what it is at its peak, and I always wake up the next morning feeling like I failed that person. It's a personal thing. I mean, obviously they're very, very gracious, gracious and very understanding, but it weighs on my mind. It does, it super does, and I'm not going to apologize. However, I do want to do and be better, not because I feel it is right or that I feel that is necessary, but I feel that is important to respect others and their personal space and their beliefs. That has nothing to do with what we were talking about, but I really wanted to get that out. I felt good.
Speaker 2:I applaud you. Thanks, bro.
Speaker 1:And so Damn your hair, Damn your hair. So do you have anything to add about worm boxes and decomposition?
Speaker 2:And I, I oh, it's such a huge topic yes, it is, we are hey, hey, climate goonies never say die. So many decades ago we went through school. They this. They said this was going to happen. It didn't. Then they taught something else and it didn't happen either. My boys are in school right now and they're teaching them something else, and guess what? It hasn't happened yet. So I know it's difficult to wrap your mind around, but are we fabricating these fears or is this an actuality that we need to prepare for? How many?
Speaker 1:things that we are afraid of are a construct of political seesaw, of political seesaw.
Speaker 2:Well, we do live in capitalism, the land of capitalism.
Speaker 1:And we live in a democratic republic that requires a lot of political oversight.
Speaker 2:And fear. Did you know this pen is going to erode in the next three months and it's going to have holes in it and it won't be able to write? Did you know that my pen is going to erode in the next three months and it's going to have holes in it and it won't be able to write?
Speaker 1:Because you know that my pen is going to last for fucking ever, because it's a fucking pen. Calm down.
Speaker 2:And this glass is going to have polka dot sized holes in it all the way through, and it won't be able to hold anything anymore. Right, you watch just about anything in wherever Stream. Wherever streaming cable there's no. What is it besides that Satellite?
Speaker 1:Everything, the universe of things. We call it the. Qvc is trying to sell you on everything, so nerds, nerds who are into infrastructure, call it the internet of things.
Speaker 2:Okay, so everything in the internet of things is trying to convince and promote and just get you to buy the next and the best ideas and thoughts are so prevalent nowadays.
Speaker 1:So when, when I was a kid, I only knew what my friends told me. Now, if you're a kid at the age I was, then you have access to literally all the information on the planet. There is so very little you cannot access. Where do you decide what's correct, what is right, what fits into your cultural norms, what matches your ideology? How do you determine what is right? As a child, yes, growing into adulthood Please, oh my gosh Psych, please Solve this for me now.
Speaker 2:I'm happy to. Nothing would bring me greater pleasure.
Speaker 1:Nothing would bring me greater pleasure. Nothing would bring me greater pleasure. I'm sorry everybody. A moment of silence. Cyclist oh, easy.
Speaker 2:All right, you have to have multiple people in the child's corner. You need to have multiple people. I mean, regardless of what you think of Hillary Clinton, right? Or Donald Trump, it does. Take a village. There should be a parent and a parent and a grandparent, and a grandparent, and another grandparent and another grandparent, and aunts and uncles. How many grandparents do you have? Lots, yeah, multiples. So you get all of those people and they surround this being this young life that is growing and they nurture and they provide them everything they need and wants, aside just what they need, and sometimes that means sheltering them from what they need later. You need this later. You don't need it now. Later you'll get this, we'll give that to you later.
Speaker 2:It's not going to be a no forever, it's just going to be a no for now. And all of those things. If you can contain them, it'll work. But you have to funnel all of the information and all of the lessons. Funnel all of the information and all of the lessons. You have to curate them in a fashion that they receive that information just as you intended. Otherwise, hey, I saw a picture. Let me think about this. Oh, okay, that means, but it might not mean that at all. So unless you're hyper vigilant, you can filter and curate all the information they receive. If you don't have that energy or that time to put into that activity, then I those results are not going to be garnered from that. No.
Speaker 1:That is created from a perspective of trying to micromanage the growth of your child. I don't disagree with that. I think that so we talk, so this is a big okay stop, stop.
Speaker 2:Why would you not try to micromanage the growth of a child?
Speaker 1:so here's the thing. So so you have this argument about who's in charge of the child's growth. Is it the public school system, or is it the, the parent?
Speaker 2:we, we know the answer yeah, no, you know the answer. No, we know the answer. Okay, we know the answer. No, not us Phrase your question again.
Speaker 1:Say it again no, who should be in charge of deciding the development of a child.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we know that should be afforded to the parent.
Speaker 1:Yes, that we know. I agree with you. I agree, but not everybody feels that way. This is why you get this liberal denomination in public schools.
Speaker 2:No, I disagree. I don't think everyone believes that.
Speaker 1:Of course, not everyone believes that, but enough people believe it to where you have situations where you see teachers on the media with Antifa flags in their classrooms, in their grammar school classrooms in and seemingly indoctrinating kids into their ideology. But the parents aren't stopping it because they are believing that the public school system is taking, caring and fostering their kids okay. Silence ensues on the conversation that is wow, of that.
Speaker 2:Personally, that's not what I have experienced, professional, what you would want to expect correct, correct. A parent, anyone who's a parent, there's ownership, there's. That's mine, that's my blood, that's my child, those are my children. That connection I don't want to allow.
Speaker 1:I hate to say this out loud. Let me cover my face with my hair.
Speaker 2:Oh my, you covered my poker table with it, oh my, so we'll clean this up.
Speaker 1:Next episode so I think, I think that you are, you are creating a perspective based on personal belief. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:However, I expressed that. I said based on that's how it started.
Speaker 1:I think that a lot of people believe that they can and should hand their children over to the public school system and that they should come out the way that the country expects it to.
Speaker 2:So this week I was listening to a podcast and they called public school government school.
Speaker 1:No Congratulations. Public school is government school. It is literally government subsidized. Yes, the podcast is a fucking genius. Can I have the name of the podcast?
Speaker 2:Yes, I will tell you later.
Speaker 1:Yes, because it's so dumb, it's fucking stupid. God damn it. How no, but you think no, oh, oh.
Speaker 2:White is white. No, stop it. Because, in their defense, if you go to Target, it's a public store, it's open to the public, so anybody can go right. But what they don't perceive is that that Target or, in this case, the public school, is run by the government People. When you change the language, no, that's business versus Now, most people now. Okay, so if English is not your first language and you come here and you're a public school, but the country that you came from is much different and government means something you want to avoid, but you put your kids in the public school, which is run by the government, because you have no fucking choice. There are choices available Now, maybe if you have.
Speaker 1:I'm having a hard time with this because public school is public school.
Speaker 2:The way you know it. Yes, education is a right. Public school creates that right. It is an entitlement, correct, but is run by the state you live in.
Speaker 1:That's not unentirely true. We live in a very liberal state where freedom of education is a right yes, and so well. Even homeschoolers right oh, you were homeschooled.
Speaker 2:Yeah, give me your perspective on that well, did you know that used to be illegal?
Speaker 1:where, everywhere.
Speaker 2:I would make it illegal if I was trying to indoctrinate children into the public school system, and and so would it upset you to know that the government that maintains this country that we gain every freedom from did not want it.
Speaker 1:No, no, because I totally get it. A government is designed to foster government, so I'm sure I've made this comparison before.
Speaker 2:Make it again. Yes, please, all society, and thank you yeah.
Speaker 1:All society is is a conceptual design by a very small group of people to convince the masses to foster their ideals. Let's build this pyramid, let's construct this mausoleum, let's create this vomitorium, which is not what you think it is. Let's indoctrinate the society. That is society, that is. Government is created to build what the masses can do but the few cannot. So, in that instance, in that understanding, in that concept, in that instance, in that understanding, in that concept, yes, it doesn't bother me that government wanted to brush aside all of these erroneous ideas that did not equate to what they believed at the time, so that we could all be educated the same way.
Speaker 2:Well, ultimately the. Supreme Court disagreed with you. That's fine too, and that's it. I just know how society works. Now we have these options.
Speaker 1:Yes, now we have all these options and now kids can go to private schools. They can go to what is it? Charter, charter? What is the fucking charter? Public? You and I'm not asking you this because I want to be, I want to be snarky ask, I don't want to be snarky what's the fucking private school?
Speaker 2:I mean no, no oh my, what's a school? Let me know next time. I need to cover my glass, please, charters.
Speaker 1:I mean, I clean everything. Explain the difference between a public school and a charter school.
Speaker 2:Okay, so a public school is, as we know, funded by the state. Charter schools are too, but a little different. So I used to teach at two, two charter schools, maybe three, three, three, and enrollment is optional right and you have to, you have to seek them out, you have to enroll, and basically it's by today's standards, if I'm not incorrect. It's a more appropriate, advantageous no better, smarter, clever, more, more sexy just brush your hair back and forth while I think of it.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's, it's a better version of homeschooling, because many of the charter schools allow homeschoolers to enroll and yeah, I saw that and they get to take classes and they're part of the in our area, wask, the western association of schools and colleges sorry please, yeah, right here in California, and then they get to proceed.
Speaker 2:Especially, this is critical If you have a middle schooler entering high school and you're thinking about homeschooling. Attend college at a D1 school or proceed to something more Ivy League. You have to be involved in a school that's legitimate, otherwise you cannot proceed.
Speaker 1:So I have questions. Can I ask questions? Can you, can you explain what a d1 school is? Because, I'm okay, I know multiple questions yeah, so d1 athletics if you want.
Speaker 2:So for me, fucking athletics as an athlete, playing soccer throughout my adolescence and into college. If you have an athlete or a potential athlete that wants to play or get a scholarship or move on to play professional d1 schools, that's what you want. So a d1 is just sports, for sports. Yes.
Speaker 1:So what if I'm a fucking nerd?
Speaker 2:You can still go to schools that are D1 in sports, yeah.
Speaker 1:Next question how do we differentiate public schools from charter schools in our pursuit for higher education?
Speaker 2:Oh, higher education does not exist. So what the? It's only up until high school.
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on. No, no, no, higher education does exist. We're not talking about the same thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:Higher education high school, college, Higher education.
Speaker 1:How do I get into higher education based on my high school?
Speaker 2:Yes, you have to be at an accredited institution.
Speaker 1:Is there a separation between accredited state?
Speaker 2:institution or charter school. So if this is you here.
Speaker 1:I'm round, I'm pretty round. Make me round. No wait, I'm square. Can you make me square? I am here. Okay, we're done. We're done. Can you imagine how intelligent it would be if we were not at least one bottle of wine deep?
Speaker 2:So if you're here in this institution, a square institution you cannot Alright take a break, write something, pen something.
Speaker 1:Talk something.
Speaker 2:So if you are outside of high school or any school, you're homeschooled in any institution whatsoever, then you will not be able to. There's no way you cannot get into College T1. They do not have your records. They do not have your transcripts, your units, your credits. They're not on there. But if you go to a charter school that identifies with your homeschool or private school beliefs or faiths or whatever, then that works.
Speaker 1:That's the bridge, bridge, you know. So I'm starting to see.
Speaker 2:I'm starting to see why some conservative beliefs push charter schools however, public school is this, and if you are outside of that and you want options, then charter schools can fill the void, and I've taught at two but work for three and yes, they absolutely did that and for certain classes and then the parents had the rest of the opportunity to teach everything else.
Speaker 1:I am a product of the public school system.
Speaker 2:Do you ever imagine what you could have been if you had been in the charter school homeschool?
Speaker 1:So I don't fully understand the charter school.
Speaker 2:I know you don't that's why you have all these questions.
Speaker 1:No, yes, but so I might not be the best person to ask that question. At a very young age, I felt like I was smarter than my parents. So to to allow my parents to dictate my education felt like it was it would. It would have been the wrong idea. I was taking all the ap classes in high school. You know, you know my senior year I only stayed in high school because I wanted to be in high school. Fuck, even then I knew this was my only opportunity to be a fucking child. Be a kid. I had what I purposely left.
Speaker 2:You've never been in a private school.
Speaker 1:No, why would I? I'm fucking 46. Private school didn't exist when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:I went to private school from kindergarten to second grade. I'm the oldest five Too many kids. I went to private school from kindergarten to second grade. But I have I mean, I'm the oldest five. So too many kids to for my parents to put through private school? No, no, no, no. So I went to public school and all that college. Well, right, our own city, you know, pacific, you'll be, that's a private city, pacific UOP.
Speaker 1:That's a private school. It's a private school. I'm sorry that I did not engage in massive amounts of higher education. Like you, I went to fucking Delta.
Speaker 2:You exaggerate, that's hyperbole, that's hyperbole.
Speaker 1:Massive amounts, how much?
Speaker 2:Drown that out. Hyperbole is what he's saying. How?
Speaker 1:much hyperbolic private schooling have you encountered in your life? Me this much, this much, zero percent.
Speaker 2:I mean, and look at his hair unconditioned no, I conditioned today.
Speaker 1:I did Fuck you. So I have a really hard time with the whole concept of parental education because you should not, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Most most should not. You should not, no, no, no, most most should not. That's a problem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I would tend to disagree. We can ask Chet TPT.
Speaker 2:So you say parental. Are you talking about one or?
Speaker 1:two parents, no parents versus no, any number of parents versus public education. I turned out amazing with public education. And how many parents? I got two. Please speak your piece.
Speaker 2:No, I think I did. No, no, please, you had two parents. I did and turned out amazing with hair that's shedding everywhere.
Speaker 1:And it's hey, hey, comment subscribe. Comment specifically about how my hair is.
Speaker 2:I mean he's a little fidgety, We'll take him. Oh, we love my hair.
Speaker 1:We love him. I'm super fidgety. Hey, hey no, you have a loving home, two parents.
Speaker 2:I'm supervisioning, hey, you have you have a loving home, two parents supportive, invested in your success.
Speaker 1:That is not everyone's story but my question is not about single income households. It's about whether or not public school versus homeschool is there an advantage?
Speaker 2:Yes, Talk to the advantage Homeschoolers typically have two parents, public schools usually have one.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's fine, you're separating the percentage. The advantage is Talk to me about success.
Speaker 2:The successful students usually have two parents investing in their lives over time and the percentage of homeschoolers who enter that realm against their will. For the most part, as a student have two parents in the household.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm drunk, I can't spell succeed. Question mark it's got two C's. Thank you. According to ChatGPT, so success rates between homeschooled and public school students can depend on how you define success. Yes, in quotes define success. Yes, end quote yeah, now, apparently there's no fucking answer. Fucking chat GPT.
Speaker 2:This is some. This handwriting reminds me of my father.
Speaker 1:Yeah, handwriting reminds me of my father. I studied architecture. My handwriting is fucking great. I closed my computer so, since I'm producing this episode, I'm going to open it back up.
Speaker 2:However, so, yeah, chat GPT did not prescribe you an answer because ChatGPT is not involved in angering the masses, and the vast amount of data and information that we have involving families and children and students and school overwhelmingly show that and display in every facet of their livelihood and lives that children with two parents do better than with one, and it's alarming and upsetting to hear. But if you have, let's say, you have an athlete and you have a trainer and you have a coach, you have two people. An athlete supported by a trainer and a coach would presumably do better than just an athlete over here with a trainer one. It, that's all it is. It's not talking about if, gender aside and woman aside, doesn't matter who's supporting the student or the child. They have two, they have one, that's all it is.
Speaker 1:And when you're talking about homeschooling, obviously the semantics are someone staying home to school the child. Somebody has to earn enough money to produce the situation.
Speaker 2:I get it and I live that life and we can talk about it later in detail, if the next time. If the audience is interested. There's no audience.
Speaker 1:So the next time on the conversation, cy's going to choose the topic, which obviously I chose no topic, topic, but he can choose to discuss this further. This was a really good conversation. We I mean we had no direction. No direction, like your hair, no direction I'm so upset right now about this.
Speaker 2:We're going to talk later, but okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:However, join us next time when we discuss whatever psych decides to discuss no remorse. He's got no remorse, whether it be climate change or two parents, or the fact that I have amazing hair that almost has its entire full color at 46.
Speaker 2:It's all going off. It's all off.
Speaker 1:Pens off dude. Meaningful conversation.
Speaker 2:meaningful conversation next time on the conversation podcast with leonard kane psych.
Speaker 1:Please join us like comment and subscribe, bam son, that's all that matters this guy.
Speaker 2:That was good though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good yeah, the wine was good though. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, the wine was good.
