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Lazy Nation: The Productivity Plunge
The productivity crisis has hit American workplaces hard. After an initial pandemic-era boost, worker output has plummeted to record lows—the steepest drop since measurements began in 1947. What's behind this alarming trend?
We dive into the distractions of modern life, starting with a tour of the internet's most spectacularly useless websites (picture-of-hotdog.com, anyone?). These digital curiosities represent just the tip of the distraction iceberg that's potentially sinking our collective efficiency.
Technology has transformed how we work and relax, but at what cost? The average American now checks their phone every five minutes and spends 4-6 hours daily watching television—dramatic increases from previous generations. Even when we recognize distractions for what they are, we still fall prey to them, as evidenced by one host's 70-message exchange with an obvious scammer just for entertainment.
Working from home compounds these challenges. Without clear boundaries between professional and personal spaces, maintaining focus becomes increasingly difficult. As one host confesses: "I'm sitting on the same couch that I sit on to play video games. It's very difficult."
Drawing an illuminating parallel to musicians, we explore how workplace productivity operates like a drum tempo—one person's pace affects everyone around them. This "herd mentality" can either elevate or diminish overall productivity depending on established norms.
Can productivity be rescued through incentives? We examine reward systems and why unpredictable reinforcement often proves most effective—though subject to diminishing returns. As technology continues advancing, our attention faces more sophisticated competition each year.
Have smartphones made us collectively less efficient, or are we simply measuring productivity through outdated metrics? Join us for this thought-provoking exploration of work, focus, and distraction in the digital age.
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Speaker 2:It's just a suggestion, come on, all right. Well, are you ready for something completely different?
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yeah, I was kind of afraid of this topic because it was serious. It was just like it was fun.
Speaker 2:Let's turn this episode around. Let's start the next episode as we break up the recordings. Let's do it. Oh, I'm working out, you're working on me. Okay, so this is not my topic, but this is how we're going to start the topic.
Speaker 3:Did I have cats?
Speaker 2:outside again. No, but you, but you. They are spraying in your, in your bushes. It smells like cats a little bit. Totally useless websites. That was on 1440 today. And one other thing, one other fun little bits towards the bottom of today's article or today's issue, was the most pointless websites on the Internet. These have been voted on. So, out of all the websites on the Internet, these are voted on as being the most pointless and useless websites in the Internet. Most pointless and useless websites in the internet, and my amongst my favorites is pictureofhotdogcom is there?
Speaker 3:is there a counter at the bottom of?
Speaker 2:not in this one.
Speaker 3:This is just a picture of a hot dog but that web, okay, I'm going, no, I'm showing, are you?
Speaker 2:that's the website. That's the website. It's the whole website. Oh wait, no, there's an about section. Let's go to the about section. Let's, it's a hot. Oh my wait, wait, there's testimonials too. I like that hot dog. A guy said that that's all's testimonials too. I like that hot dog. A guy said that that's all the testimonials. Oh, that's so good. Oh wow.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:What else have we got here? What else have we got here? Here's the number three most pointless website it's. Somebody has re-rendered the DVD bouncing logo so your screen won't go dead when you're using your DVD player.
Speaker 3:That's pretty good, a little dated, but I like it.
Speaker 2:But that's the whole website. Let's see here, what else have we got?
Speaker 3:We're beyond things that could help humanity. We're not utility Like why?
Speaker 2:How about instant ostrichcom? That's it. It's an ostrich. That's the whole website.
Speaker 3:And somebody continues to pay for this domain, for yes.
Speaker 2:Somebody's getting into the pay for the domain. Yes, yes, wow, to pay for the domain. Yes, wow, random goats on here. There's an RGB one. It'll just change the color of the background based on the RGB that you hover over. Also, also, I'm going to keep this one bookmarked. It is dramabuttoncom, dramabutton. Yes, and it goes like this. That's the whole website.
Speaker 3:That takes me back.
Speaker 2:Yes, we used that on the video, couldn't we?
Speaker 3:Yes, that's extremely dramatic and influential. It's taking people's emotions to places that they wouldn't ordinarily go.
Speaker 2:So here's the actual article, washington Post. Us workers have gotten way less productive. No one is sure why Couldn't possibly be the website? So employers across the country are worried that workers are getting less done, and there's evidence there that they are right to be spooked. Be spooked, um.
Speaker 2:As early as the first half of 2022, productive productivity the measure of how much output in goods and services an employee can produce in an hour plunged by the sharpest rate on record, going back to 1947, according to the bureau of labor labor statistics.
Speaker 2:Productivity plunge, uh, is perplexing because productivity levels actually went up at the beginning of the pandemic and people were starting to think that, you know, this hybrid workspace that we were creating was going to see this massive increase in productivity.
Speaker 2:You know people's work-life balances are better, they're getting more freedom, but, yeah, once the novelty of that wore off, total nosedive Followed the lemons right off the cliff, and now it talks about things like you know, quiet quitting and stuff like that, and how productivity is in the shitter. So now I brought this article up because I'm curious about your thoughts on not just not just workplace productivity, because you know that's a thing right, the ups and downs but also are we as a society and this article gets into stuff like like how we have more time to do things because of conveniences now, like our free time, air quote. Free time is bigger. The average person spends four to six hours watching TV a day, whereas back in the 60s it was closer to 90 minutes, two hours. Because we have more time. 46 hours a day, four to six hours I can't more time. 46 hours a day, 4 to 6 hours I can't do anything for 46 hours a day.
Speaker 3:No, no, but 4 to 6 hours the average person. Okay, yeah, I'm trying to assess if that's me or not. Do I fall in that category?
Speaker 2:I don't have time for that. I couldn't, even if I wanted to.
Speaker 3:Definitely not lately, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:So, and it talks about how we actually don't most people don't spend all this extra free time focused on something TikTok and Facebook and YouTube. You know everything's reels now. Everything's short-paced, we're doing things in spurts, so is society turning us all into a bunch of lazy schmucks and it's technology causing that. That's what I want to get into this quiet. It talks about quiet quitting, and there's a couple of other like workplace concepts.
Speaker 2:I think that those people are are equal parts people who are having to come into work and don't want to, and people who are being let, allowed to stay home and just don't, just can't find the oomph to get up and go to their couch and their pjs and do what their boss wants them to do, and so I have a real hard time. Like I don't work from home very often, but I do have the ability to do so, and I find, unless I'm swamped, which happens if I'm not like I don't have just hella stuff going on, I find productivity at home to be extremely challenging. Like it's hard. I'm sitting on the same couch that I sit on to play video games.
Speaker 3:It's very difficult. Oh well, that's just habit based, that's I mean.
Speaker 2:But like if you had an office set up and you would go to your office, yeah, and you would structure your time there and you would schedule your breaks and your meals and stuff at home, yeah, you'd be just fine perhaps, perhaps, but as it is like last time I did, I did it like two weeks ago and I'm so busy right now that I was up on my computer like five in the morning and I didn't stop until like five that night. Actually, when the wife came home from work I was like, okay, just close my laptop and I stopped.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I take sick days at work to just work at home Interesting. I just want to catch up. I don't, I can't. That's awful.
Speaker 2:So you're the wrong person to ask about being lazy at home.
Speaker 3:Those days do happen too. But if I find I am just overwhelmed if the supervisors and the managers are just saying we need this now. My profession, my particular job and the position that I fill is not without distractions. In fact it has more so than most other professions and jobs. And I mean, if you have to, we're working out today and I was just saying, uh, last week I was running away from a student who was trying to attack me and, uh, I felt good. So we had a good workout today and I felt I felt pretty good because I had some. I've had some recent practice. Those sorts of things where you have individuals trying to harm you in the confines of your day is not, that's not normal, that doesn't happen. So, yes, I need. I need some breathing room and sometimes just the I get just enough air at home to make it happen.
Speaker 2:Here's a website called whataclickcom that just changes. A click changes the faces of the smiley faces randomly, based on clicking them. That one's sad, that one's happy. Oh yeah, someone's paying to keep this up here. Yes, so I feel like we are. We can't focus on things. I watched a thing recently where it was talking about I think it was the current two generations the newer ones. Generations, the newer ones. They did a study and they found that for the cell phones, the average person can only keep off their cell phone for like three seconds.
Speaker 3:I'd want to see that study. Yeah, three seconds, three seconds seconds I have, so that makes sense, because I have families and parents that just expect to have all and all access passed to me. Yeah, hey, I just texted you 30 seconds ago and I'm here. Can you be right here right now? Can you be here a minute ago, before I arrived, 30 seconds ago, so that I can pick up or drop off my son or daughter? It's sometimes it feels as if they're treating the public school system as a daycare program and they just want to do whatever they want and for some reason, people that have come before them have allowed that behavior to continue. But I think when you have the technology, yes, it can make you more efficient. It doesn't have to, but it can. My first thought when you rattled all this off was what metrics were they using in 1947 that are comparable now to indicate whether or not our productivity has gone down?
Speaker 2:or decreased. It's manufacturing. They're producing a product, okay.
Speaker 3:So you're on a line in a plant at some sort of place where you're reproducing the same task, you're assembling the same thing, you're putting that into that, and then it goes the next person. They do the same thing. Yes, over and over and over again. Okay, well, yes, then that makes sense. Yeah, who wants to do that?
Speaker 2:yeah, we gave all those jobs overseas anyway yeah, we have not been enough, but yes, we are. We, yes, we live a very decadent and easy life here in America, whether anybody wants to think that or not. And yeah, the things that we don't want to be bothered with tasks. We want to enjoy and live our best life and check our cell phones Maybe not every three seconds, but ChatGPG didn't find anything like that. Maybe not every three seconds, but but uh, it didn't find. Chat jpg didn't find anything like that, but it said. It said that a recent study has found that the average american checks their phone 205 times a day, which is which is, which is just under every five minutes during waking hours uh, so when I, when I get my weekly report, I get the average.
Speaker 3:You know it tells you how long you're on your phone a day, and most of that is because I don't ever have my phone auto shut off. I keep my and I just forget. I'll set it down, I'll walk away. My screen's on.
Speaker 2:It says you use your phone 12 hours a day.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm like I don't think it was. Was I? Oh my my pocket's getting hot? Why is it getting hot? Oh, my screen's still. I'll have to turn it off or I'll fall asleep and it's still on, or this or that. If I really want to get work done, if I really want to learn something done, if I really want to learn something, I'm here and I try to. So you're probably right, I'm an outlier. I try not to get distracted, although, actually, this is good, this just happened. Okay, tell me the story. Yes, so you know. Okay, can I show you something first? All right, let me show you something first.
Speaker 2:All right, let me show you something. I did find that that I had to stop playing games on my cell phone, uh, because it was keeping me kind of tied to it. So, yeah, I, I can, and it's easy distraction, because you have it right here next to you, right, and you're doing something on the computer like, and then just like, it's an easy, it's an easy thing, just grab your phone, just like. If I'm really serious about something, especially when I'm writing or trying to focus on something, I will actually put my phone out of my reach because it's become so comfortably easy for me to grab it and look at it yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3:It's just far too easy. So I think I've showed you this guy before. Let's turn on the volume.
Speaker 1:Now my hand was kind of hovering on the delete button, my hand was kind of hovering up Solomon.
Speaker 3:Hold on, I have an interesting. Let me set this up. So, basically, this guy has fun with spam emails and texts.
Speaker 2:Which you like to do too. I can't be bothered.
Speaker 3:After I saw this guy I was like you know what I'm going to do. That too the lens I'm looking at this all through is people are trying to scam other people and I know I'm not a victim and I won't be, and so let me consume their time so they don't hassle my grandfather or grandmother or somebody else's great aunt or somebody who's disabled in some way and has an intellectual disability, just like oh yeah, so you're doing God's work by engaging with these overseas spam email scam artists?
Speaker 1:Yes, One like this said hello, james Veitch, I have an interesting business proposal I want to share with you. Solomon, now my hand was kind of hovering on the delete button. I asked you why. I was looking at my phone. I thought I could just delete this, or I could do what I think we've all always wanted to do. And I said, solomon, your email intrigues me. It's a great start. And the game was afoot. He said dear James Veitch, we shall be shipping gold to you. You will earn 10% of any gold you distribute. What so? I knew I was dealing with a professional. I said how much is it worth? He said we will start with a smaller quantity. I was like aw. And then he said of 25 kilograms.
Speaker 1:Jesus 50 pounds of gold, the worth should be about 2.5 millionomon.
Speaker 3:if we're gonna do it, let's go big so he goes on and it goes on and he's, he's excellent and, uh, let's go big. His his rise. He's a comedian already and comedians their minds, they're built different to be, to be funny and to find aspects in life that are beyond what, what others are able to see and to make to bring humor. That's what he does, but the concept there is, it was real. So, anyway, I was distracted, I was distracted. Oh, I can't. Actually, I could probably hold on, hold on. Uh, let me see here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're gonna have to are you looking for text messages?
Speaker 3:you're fucking with somebody now some, some of these out all right, so I'm just going to scroll right here.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you're editing this episode, this person, which is definitely not a real person, that's real to me. So it starts out you may be busy, but don't forget to take good care of yourself. That's how it begins. That's how it begins. That's how it begins. So I said thank you so much, I won't you do the same. And then it went on Thank you you too. How have you been doing lately? Hello, did you get busy? Because there was a little time that had passed and I was like I've been amazing, yes, so busy today. She said even if your day is busy, you need to take good care of yourself. My friend, by the way, do you remember who I am? Said good advice. I don't remember, but that doesn't matter, the connection is real, you're so dumb dude, oh my, that's hell of a job.
Speaker 3:And then it goes on. It's me, adelia. Do you remember we met at a business party in LA last month and exchanged numbers. I have attached a photo to help jog your memory. Sorry, I know I was down there for business and yes, there was a party, but there were also a lot of free drinks. So 70 messages later.
Speaker 2:Oh Jesus.
Speaker 3:Christ bro. So distractions are real. Just to illustrate yes, I don't just get distracted with a bunch of social media where I'm just mindlessly scrolling through whatever's happening. Social media where I'm just mindlessly scrolling through whatever's happening. I'm not checking status updates or likes or requests or this or that, but occasionally, in fact I shared this to one of my staff members and she was just like you're supposed to be working Right and it didn't take much time. I mean, a lot of that happened in the downtime, downtime lunch, or you're waiting for just a reply for something. It wasn't like I was putting this A lot of. It was just like oh yeah, me too, or this or that. 70 messages sounds like a lot, but it's not 70 paragraphs. I'm not writing a dissertation trying to keep this interaction alive. And sometimes the time in between, where you just like you leave them, you just, you just give them a carrot, you let them see it, you let them smell it and then your next message comes what was?
Speaker 2:what? Did you ever get into what they were trying to achieve with you?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, so rock and I are good for this.
Speaker 3:So finally, cause this is not my first rodeo and all of them send enticing pictures of females from Asia somewhere, and they all try to get you on to WhatsApp or signal or some sort of encrypted messaging yeah, service, and there's a few reasons for that that.
Speaker 3:I've recently learned one it's less expensive because they don't have to have a service provider, a carrier, to, especially if they're not in the country right, there's somewhere else and they're paying for each message, for each text, if it's not all encapsulated in one family plan, you know, whatever plan that is, where it's unlimited, which many cases I don't know. Service providers or plans are overseas, but it's not necessarily what we experience here. So it's more expensive over there, especially for international texts. Second to that, when you have a real number, somebody needs to sign up for that real number. That real number is attached to a person and a name and that can be traced. So they start with a real number to get you onto something that's not real, so that if they're able to rob me blind and empty my bank accounts, then I have no recourse because track it correct.
Speaker 3:So, uh, yeah, and this person is in most likely not the person that's there, right, it's?
Speaker 2:too bad, because she was very lovely from her photo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, she showed me. She showed me dinner. She was cooking, she was making a shrimp shrimp salad. We talked about yeah, there, she is right there.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so.
Speaker 3:And oh yeah, I got the results here. Here we go.
Speaker 2:She's enjoying herself there you go, there, you go Okay.
Speaker 3:But on and, on and on, and, and then the. The final point about getting you off of this your your actual phone is it's easier to set up bots. Yeah, on on whatsapp, and and then it just they use ai to automate the whole thing and then they can have. I don't know if there is a limit of all of these potential victims that they're communicating with and it's just automated. But no, I need an actual person to be taking care of me. I can't be bothered with WhatsApp.
Speaker 3:So what you're saying is it's a great distraction, yes, checking your phone every three seconds but?
Speaker 2:but more to the point, you discovered that this person was not real. I knew they weren't real. They fall the same script. Sorry, that was a pretty lazy setup.
Speaker 3:I'll have to let you read this whole thing I don't want to. I ain't got time for that shit.
Speaker 2:It's pretty good. So if we're not being productive and we're not engaging in bot scams to the tune of 70 messages back and forth, what are we doing that is causing us to become so inefficient? Is it the cell phone? Do you think the cell phone is the big cause? The big driver? I mean my wife. Her evening routine is to come home, fuss with the cats, do some of this, and that I make dinner, and then she just kind of stays on the reddits until it's bedtime okay and but.
Speaker 2:But the red, the reddit, isn't like one thing. She just bounces around all higgly piggly. She's already been to work. Yes, she's been to work, but been to work. But how do I say this? A little different especially so I don't get in trouble at home Is the mentality of the way that we treat our off time bleeding into the way that we treat our work hours. Do we find it easier to procrastinate, not engage properly, be underproductive and generally kind of sleep on the job because of the way that we no longer need to come home and be productive? You have to come home and cook meals for your children and stuff. We have automatic feeders for the cats.
Speaker 3:Yes, so, yeah, it's a balance. So this week I went to our oldest plays the drums or percussions, basically anything percussion has, for a while, while he beats on everything drumsticks, spinning stuff like does it all. And I commended him for one of one of the pieces. He asked me which one was my favorite. I told him the second to the last because he had the most drum mark. He was working the hi-hat and the snare and he was incredibly consistent.
Speaker 3:He was like a metronome. He didn't speed up, he didn't slow down and everybody was basing what they were doing after him. And I let him know, having experience and having played with a lesser quality drummer who just everyone else is trying to figure out where they're going. So when they start to speed up, they speed up and then they think they're going to speed up again, so they kind of anticipate them speeding up and then they speed up and then that causes the drummer to speed up, and the reverse can happen too. It was like no, you were consistent, you were right where you needed to be. I think I like that analogy when it comes to the workplace, because if you see the people you're working with and you have everyone's kind of steadily climbing together, then that tends to be that way within that group. However, if you got one person, just they're just leaving everyone and everyone thinks like well I can't catch up, so why try?
Speaker 3:they're just, they're gone, they're dropping us or hey, we're all gonna stay here, everybody. You yeah, you, yeah, we're, we agree to stay here Everybody. You, yeah, you, yeah, we agree. We don't talk about it, it goes unsaid, but we're all going to do this and no one's the outlier, no one's too fast, no one's too slow, no one's the overachiever, no one's the underachiever. We're average. Let's all be average based on what we produce here. That based on what we produce here, that will happen if there's no incentive.
Speaker 2:So I agree and I like how you presented it, because I'm over here, lost in thought, because this is like my life right now. This is work. It is, you know, the guys. The guys have decided a pace that you know, isn't necessarily balls to the wall and it does go unsaid, but it still happens and I try to, I try to bring them up together through incentives and stuff, mostly, you know, because there's no real promotion opportunities. But we've decided this is not the smart way to be, and I get it. And I get it because we're not not succeeding but our productivity isn't as high as it could be. So what you're saying is we've got a situation where we've got herd mentality, and if you've got a herd that is all on the same page about go, go, go, then productivity is higher than if you have. You know, all it takes is one person to kind of drag everybody back. To where do you guys go? Come back here, meet me in the middle or three quarters.
Speaker 3:That could be the case you had mentioned at work. You kind of started this. I don't know the bounty board. Yeah, almost like its own little token economy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did. Yeah, it's like an adventure game, bounty board, totally.
Speaker 3:And are there rewards or prizes? Because I was thinking, if it was, hey, you finished that or you were the first to two, you know, whatever, it is Okay here's. I don't know if you're even permitted to do this, working for the government agency that you are. Could there be here's? I don't know?
Speaker 3:if you're even permitted to do this, working for the government agency that you you are, could, could there be here's okay, you finished first five dollar starbucks cart. Or here's a ten dollars to bevmo, or here's I mean, it seems minuscule but even going back, working with children, right, if you, if you work with little kids, right, here's a gold sticker and it's something so insignificant, but it's the recognition that goes with it that promotes the behavior.
Speaker 2:So I tried that a little bit earlier, like the, the. The predecessor to what I do now was we have a giant whiteboard and I would actually put like programming puzzles on the whiteboard tied to the adventures of a stick figure princess. Uh, you know, you'd have to fix some program elements to press buttons on, the you know theoretical buttons and stuff, and they didn't like it. Well, and then I would you know, and then you solved it, and then I was giving them boxes of chocolate and stuff and it was okay. I mean, they didn't really you have to figure out what they want, yeah, and so I did very briefly try to have once a week I'd put a $5 bill, tape it to the thing, and that would be. I would ask a question and that, and whoever could, whoever could solve the puzzle or answer the question, would you know, the first person would get the money.
Speaker 3:I mean, could a prize be? Hey, you get to whatever it is and you get to leave an hour early on.
Speaker 2:I cannot do that at all at all or but so what I'm doing now is I've got the point fifteen dollars in and out burger yeah, no.
Speaker 2:So what I've done, doing now I've developed a point structure for you know, basically doing our job, which that's fine, and the incentive is the increase in you know, basically you're doing the most. And so when our supervisor asks who are your top performers every quarter, this guy's doing the most. And with the way that, where I work, handles the incentivizing for monetary gain based on performance, that's significant and so that has actually been fairly successful. Okay, but after an initial jump, I mean they're still doing the work and they're still doing it, but they're not attacking it like they were initially.
Speaker 3:They've figured out pretty quick that they just didn't want to work at that rate okay, well, yeah, basically, behavior has been the same since the beginning of time and if you want to stifle or dissolve or eliminate behavior, there, there's negative consequences. And if you want to, basically punishments, and if you want to encourage certain behavior, you have to have the positive consequences. You need to have some sort of positive reinforcement, the incentives, because if you tell you know, hey, no, don't do that, I'm going to fine you $100. Well, the only thing you're doing is preventing them from doing that one thing again. But if you encourage somebody to do something, they could generalize that and go, oh, I did this and there was this positive consequence, there was this reinforcement. Maybe if I do this I'll get something similar. Or maybe if I do this then I'll get something the same. So you might find, or one might find, that there's an exponentially. You know that progress takes off, it just jumps.
Speaker 2:Are we going to get diminishing returns by incentivizing in that way, getting people little carrots that happen perpetually quicker and quicker?
Speaker 3:You would, the law of diminishing returns would apply. You'd have to figure out where that is, and that would that'd be different, you know, per group, per team, the, and even down to the individual level too. So you want to find out where that sweet spot is and just kind of hang out there. Most rewards are best when they're when their interval is not predictable. Right, think about the things that are most meaningful to you.
Speaker 3:You know, if, if you walk to your car and all of a sudden, some, all of a sudden somebody walks up to you, you know, while you're walking back to your car from the grocery store and said, hey, that parking there, that was amazing and they gave you $100, right, you would probably, you'd probably take that, put that in the back of your mind and go the next store you went to. You know that the last you know, you just experienced that Somebody paid you $100 to park. Well, okay, all right, I'm going to park, I'm going to do my best, go a few times. Somebody else rewards you for parking. Well, but it's not, there's no pattern to it, and that typically increases the proficiency.
Speaker 2:So that's the rule of law, but in reverse, because you never know when the police are going to pop you for burning up and down that hill too fast. But that only works up to a point and I don't think that we're getting diminishing returns.
Speaker 3:It might not work with who you have. No, and you're talking about efficiency. And are we too distracted? Are these devices getting in the way? And the answer is yes, because every single year, we have more websites, we have more apps, we have more technology, we can fit more on our screens that we carry around with us all the time. And yes, there are just more distractions. Every year, people know more people than they did last year, which kind of reminds me of a Drake song. Can I play it?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 3:A Drake song. I know that's your favorite.
Speaker 2:No, you can't, because….
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:I went through that when we did that once. So, so many websites Speaking of. Here's a website called IamAwesomecom and you click on it and that's the whole website. It just says it's true, it's a waste of my time, it's true.
