The Business Game
The Business Game
The Business Game is not another highlight reel of overnight success. It is a structured, honest breakdown of what it really takes to build, scale, and sustain a business at every level.
We built The Business Game around a simple truth: business changes as revenue changes. The problems at $500K are not the problems at $5M. The mindset at $5M is not the mindset at $50M. That is why every conversation is grounded in our 10-Level framework, from Level 1 Startup and Survival through to Level 10 Legacy and Exit.
If you are:
• Trying to get your first consistent revenue
• Building your first real team
• Breaking through the messy middle
• Scaling toward eight or nine figures
• Or preparing for exit
There is an episode that meets you where you are.
Hosted by Steve Plummer and Kalena Stano, who speak to founders operating at every stage of the game. No gatekeeping. No hype. No recycled advice. Just real numbers, real mistakes, real strategy, and real decisions that moved the needle.
Each week, we publish two episodes every Monday and Thursday at 6pm AEST, featuring global founders, operators, and investors who break down what actually works at their level and what does not.
The Business Game exists to give you clarity. To help you identify your current level. To show you the moves required to reach the next one.
Because scaling is not random. It is a game. And every level has different rules.
Find your level. Play it properly. Then level up.
Watch video episodes on YouTube and explore more at thebusinessgamegroup.com
The Business Game
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In this special edition of The Business Game: A Podcast That Moves The Needle, hosts Lisa De Angelis and Steve Plummer turn the mic on each other for a role reversal where the hosts interview each other! Dive into their inspiring career pivot stories, from teaching to copywriting for Steve and country music touring to digital marketing strategy for Lisa. Discover how they navigated major career changes, embraced risk-taking in business, and found success through entrepreneurial bravery and burning bridges to build new paths.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
* Hosts interview each other: Steve's pivot from teaching and journalism to copywriting in Australia.
* Entrepreneurial risks: Tips on burning bridges, quitting jobs, and bold career changes for growth.
* Lisa's music to marketing journey: From Tamworth Festival (Australia) and CMA Fest (Nashville) to digital strategy.
* Overcoming challenges: Lisa's battle with sudden deafness and avoiding sunk cost fallacy in entrepreneurship.
* Business insights: Advice on hiring mistakes, gut instincts, workplace culture, and public speaking rituals.
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Thank you for listening to The Business Game, where real founders break down the real levels of business.
Whether you're building at Level 1 ($0–$1M) or scaling through Level 6 and beyond, this show is designed to help you understand exactly where you are, and what it takes to level up.
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