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Today, we have a chat between Brad Saunders, CEO of Community Living Toronto, and Mary Pat Armstrong, parent, founder of LIGHTS, and long-time supporter of Community Living Toronto. In this episode, they discuss Mary Pat's journey as a mother, mentor, and advocate and the lessons she learned along the way. They also share key insights from decades of building and supporting nonprofit and community organizations as well as how empowering people with intellectual disabilities to live more independently transformed her daughter Jenny’s confidence and community life.