EP 31 - Trend-Sweating

Hello again Flexy Fam, 

It has been a little while as we took some time away for ourselves, but it is great to be back. 

As you can see this week's episode is a little longer than usual: we had a lot to catch up on but also a spirited discussion on our topic of the day: health & fitness trends. We cover a wide array of these ranging from the outlandish, to the elitist, to the unfounded and the downright dangerous! 

We also have a little pop culture moment discussing documentaries on disgraced "health-based" con artist Belle Gibson, and the newly released Meghan (you know it's Sussex now?!) Markle's new show. 

It's a fun one!

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Disclaimer: We’re two coaches—Ghada, a mindset coach, and Lisa, a fitness coach—here to share our thoughts and experiences. But remember, we’re not licensed therapists, doctors, or medical professionals, and this podcast isn’t a substitute for professional advice from a physician, therapist, or other qualified expert. Sound good? Great. Let’s dive into the episode!

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome Back! Episode 31 Begins
• 1:49 The Belle Gibson Scandal: Faking Cancer for Fame
• 7:56 The Appeal of “Healing” Wellness Gurus
• 9:03 Veganism, Raw Diets & When They Go Too Far
• 12:00 Going Vegan: Detox, Struggles & Discoveries
• 15:45 When Wellness Becomes a Marketing Gimmick
• 20:02 Liver King & Other Fitness Frauds
• 23:14 Marketing in the Wellness Industry
• 26:11 The Myth of 'Toned' Muscles
• 31:06 Navigating Health: From Mindset to Media
• 36:43 The Weirdest Wellness Trends We've Seen
• 37:55 Perennium Sunbathing Explained (Sort of)
• 40:00 Oil Pulling: Does It Actually Work?
• 46:28 Mouth Breathers & Dry Mouth Disasters
• 49:17 Red Light Therapy: Gimmick or Gain?
• 52:57 Shortcut Culture vs. Sustainable Habits
• 58:07 Martha Stewart vs. Meghan Markle: Brand Energy
• 1:02:02 AI & Custom Training in the Future of Fitness
• 1:04:17 Trainers as Therapists: A Future We Want
• 1:05:27 Mental Health Is Finally Trending (In a Good Way)
• 1:06:48 Final Words: Research, Moderation & Sustainability

Transcript

0:00 okay let's do this hey Flex fam welcome back to another
 0:07 episode of Flex in the City i'm Rada and I'm Lisa and this is episode
 0:13 31 I believe welcome we've been uh MIA a little bit yeah forgive us but we're
 0:19 back life happens but this is a part of our life as well but yeah other life things
 0:25 have happened and been unwell and we just want to bring the best of us yes
 0:30 and we are here I think this topic is going to be a super interesting one yeah I'm excited we want to dive into the
 0:37 fabulous world of the health and fitness industry kind of touch on the the the
 0:44 good the bad and the ridiculous so I think we will address a few things um in
 0:50 this episode um kind of uh how there's influencers out there that might be
 0:56 selling you on something that may not be completely 100% accurate like you will
 1:02 see with Belle Gibson a famous Aussie influencer that we'll touch on in a bit
 1:07 and even touch on some of the crazy trends out there like sunbathing your your bums because apparently that gives
 1:14 you energy balls too apparently and balls although yeah sun vitamin D yeah I
 1:22 can I can see the correlation yeah but just some of the some of the more interesting fitness trends and not so
 1:29 fitness trends we want to feel healthy we want to live longer and we want to
 1:34 look good while we're doing it but I think in that process we also want to understand what is fiction what is fact
 1:42 and how to navigate that world so um why don't we talk about Belle Gibson first
 1:49 all right i don't remember the name of the documentary but um I'm sure some of y'all have probably seen it on Netflix i
 1:55 think it was So there's two so I didn't see a series called Apple Cider Vinegar
 2:00 oh that's what that one was so that's more of like a dramatization okay and then so I watched the one
 2:07 that's like the doco and that one was called Instagram's worst most hated con artist or something yeah most hated or
 2:14 something like that anyway if you put in Bel Gibson in your Netflix search it'll come up essentially this should never
 2:21 have ever been famous person had um a platform where she faked having um
 2:28 cancer like very very severe stage 4 brain cancer and some other sort of um
 2:34 conditions and then said listen I went away from medical treatment or traditional western treatment and have
 2:40 now um moved towards uh just juicing and eating healthily natural sort of this
 2:48 whole food shift and lifestyle shift based on what I ingest and I've just
 2:54 like been glowing they gave me six weeks and now here I am four years later still living and thriving and it's because of
 3:01 how I've been cooking and feeding my body and juicing and making the claims that she cured herself essentially like
 3:09 allowing people to sort of put that together and you know she went on this whole
 3:15 marketing like junkit around not just Australia but around the world where she
 3:20 was talking about it and everyone was always sort of talking about wow you don't look sick at all you really look
 3:26 pretty good and she was like and so a lot of people bought into that
 3:32 the worst part of it being people who were sick actually stopped treatment and
 3:38 took what she was putting out as gospel yeah and adhered to it and in some cases
 3:43 you know obviously um it didn't end up too well for them but depended on this
 3:48 information that was putting out there that later came to be shown as completely false she actually wasn't
 3:54 sick at all she never had cancer it's the Oh it's diabolical but I won't spoil
 4:00 the end of the documentary if you haven't seen it um you'll find out sort of kind of what happens i've kind of
 4:05 spoiled it but um just the sheer lack of
 4:11 um like I guess acknowledgement of the responsibility that she had for for
 4:18 causing so much pain and and suffering to people just so she can make all this money and the craziest part is that like
 4:24 companies like Apple Penguin and Apple Yeah like they published her they got a book deal and she got an app out of it
 4:30 and neither one of those companies actually did like a background search on her they just took because she was doing
 4:37 so well on Instagram they were just like "This girl must know what she's doing." So nobody took accountability for what
 4:44 was happening and I think there were a lot of different parties involved that should have done their research yeah
 4:50 there was so many junctures where they could have been like one person who said "Let's do just a little bit of research
 4:56 let's do a background check let's just verify and if one person along these years of journeys of her getting a
 5:03 recipe book and like published and like an app and all of these things if one person had kind of done that it it
 5:10 wasn't hidden it was all there like they would have been like "Oh she actually is a con artist." So it's it's sad that
 5:18 there wasn't this this this responsibility even on such a grand scale for people to do
 5:25 their research and do their homework which is also a large part of what we're talking about with like the need to
 5:32 research and verify even if there's information given to you even if it's by a doctor like get a second opinion like
 5:38 always verify to the point where you're like okay I feel truly comfortable that what I've read heard seen put out is
 5:46 true or factually provable to some point um and uh yeah so that was a story that
 5:53 I was just like like as I was watching it I was like how can you do this to people like you're
 6:00 and it's actually her friends that like called her out and basically started like to unravel the whole thing like
 6:06 that especially that one girl who was like listen you're not going to get away oh this is
 6:11 some this is this is there's something off here yeah and she was still mad about it in the documentary and I was
 6:17 like "Fair enough." So it's just Yeah because she hasn't really been fully
 6:23 held responsible like I think she has a major fine that she has to She never She
 6:28 as far as we know she has she's never arrested she's never I I think she was put on trial possibly i don't think she
 6:35 was She wasn't She was given the fine and it was basically the money that she she'd pledged to charity that she never
 6:43 paid yes and then she still hasn't paid it that's where they got her that's where they got her because I guess the
 6:48 rest of it was really hard to establish um and then she just didn't pay the fine she wasn't pursued for non-payment and
 6:55 she started another scam remember she started trying to pretend that she was like sudin exactly she was I was like
 7:02 girl she was trying to latch on to another group that needed her help and
 7:08 they didn't know about and then would start scamming them like cuz she was fundraising for them she even herself
 7:14 like an African name that she was using and they had this footage of her like with the with the head covering on i was
 7:21 like girl like I mean she's still like she's still out there she's still doing
 7:27 she's still doing her and it just it baffles me that she still even even has
 7:32 or tries to even I think because she's like a young white woman she gets away with it though because like think of
 7:38 like a black woman or like an immigrant no you know they wouldn't get away with that [ __ ] they just they would have
 7:44 locked them up so fast it would have made your head spin you
 7:50 know what I mean yeah they would have made an example of them but we digress the point is um fitness trends not all
 7:56 they're cracked up to be yeah and I think there was an appeal to to what she
 8:03 was putting out there because if you think about it like you know you want to be living a life where you're you're
 8:10 eating the right foods you're you know you're putting in clean foods into your body and that's what she was putting out
 8:16 there right especially for like cancer where the treatment can be so debilitating on the body a lot of people
 8:22 are already primed to being like if there's a way I can treat myself that's less like taxing on my body and my
 8:30 immune system then of course I'm going to be like really willing to to consider that exactly and she just and she made
 8:36 it also very visually appealing like if you saw her recipe book and her like
 8:41 everything was so like we say the rainbow like she literally would show you that and it was so beautiful and I
 8:47 think that also helped with a little bit of the buyin she nailed the um it goes into also that that um the other
 8:55 influencer who we know passed away from she's a vegan she was a raw raw food
 9:03 vegan I think for something like nine years or so yeah and so I mean I remember reading the headlines saying
 9:08 vegan influencer dies of starvation raw vegan raw vegan influencer dies of
 9:14 starvation but when you see her account like everything is so like beautifully appealing appealing yeah you're like "Oh
 9:20 maybe I could eat like this." And I was just like "Oh yeah I could do that."
 9:25 And then I walk by a burger and I'm like "No I couldn't give me the damn burger." Like raw wow i mean I was vegan for um
 9:33 the better part of two years and again it was a similar thing because I was so
 9:38 sick and I was going to these doctors and all of these doctors like I went to doctors in Kenya i went to see my doctor
 9:45 in Australia all of them were like "We can't find something that's wrong with you." And I was training i was healthy nothing changed except my skin was just
 9:53 awful um I kept gaining weight like it would be I was inflamed yeah i was
 9:58 getting these crazy crippling stomach pains my hair was falling out my nails were brittle and um it's only until one
 10:05 doctor told me this and it was my doctor back in Sydney and he's like "Look I'm a man of science so I shouldn't say this
 10:10 but I've seen a lot of people make themselves sick so to speak by how
 10:16 they're managing stress or certain incidents in their life." And he said "Whatever is going on in your life it's none of my business." But you owe it to
 10:23 yourself to start thinking about how you're dealing with those things because a lot of what is making you sick might
 10:30 be how your body is holding on to the stress and now it's manifesting in these ways and literally that was like the
 10:37 switch for me i was like and I knew exactly what the stressors in my life were at that time and I was like "All right you know what i'm going to deal
 10:43 with this in a more proactive way i'm going to try to heal this thing that's sort of been hurting me i'm going to try
 10:50 and like do these things these behaviors in my life that are more towards holistic health not just training seven
 10:56 days a week which I was still doing but like actually what am I doing beyond that
 11:02 my body is fit but like my body inside is not i'm still not doing right by all
 11:08 parts of my body so I really worked hard on the mental and the emotional aspect
 11:14 mhm and part of that was also saying listen maybe I am eating things that my
 11:20 body's not liking so I did elimination i was like all right first I'm going to take out dairy and then I'm going to take out sugar sugar was like the one of
 11:27 the first ones to go right and then you know um and I was never like supplementing or anything like that so I
 11:34 was like I'm just going to go like rock bottom in terms of just basics and then
 11:39 eventually I was like I'm even gonna take out meat because maybe like my body doesn't like the meat here or the animal
 11:46 product and I just went as simple as possible and because I after the initial two
 11:54 weeks cuz I remember vividly the first two weeks of vegan life it's torture like detoxing let me tell you thank God
 12:01 I didn't have a man at the time because my room was a hot box
 12:10 and that's when like they tell you just kind of like ride it out because yeah your body's going to kind of get rid of
 12:16 a lot of and like it's plants and it was like chickpeas and it was like so the
 12:21 yeah let's just say a lot of the toxins came out okay during that first two week period and I remember talking to a
 12:28 friend of mine who was vegan and he was like "Just stay with it just stay with it it's it's uncomfortable but stay with
 12:34 it." And um yeah I kind of kept going on that and eventually when you start to
 12:40 feel good it gets easier because you're like "Wow I am doing something that's helpful." And my skin cleared up quite a
 12:46 bit and I realized that was actually because I was eating a lot of pasta before so it wasn't purely because of
 12:53 the meat was but white flour processed the processed a lot of the processed um
 12:58 like bleached flour and also just wheat and yeah a lot of a lot of that which I
 13:03 didn't have a a an aversion to but I was just doing too much of it because I was like I'm exercising so much you need
 13:09 that carb re I need it and I was just getting it from the wrong sources so when I kind of switched and was getting
 13:15 all the nutrients I needed but really from conscious sources my body was thanking me for it still healing sort of
 13:21 the inside stuff and then it got to the point where like I said I was training a lot but then I was like I'm losing my
 13:29 gains like and I'm not saying that you know you shouldn't be vegan or I still think that like most of us should have a
 13:36 mostly plant-based diet um I still believe that for a lot of people and
 13:42 everyone's kind of different in this sense but generally I think there is animal protein that we do need um
 13:49 especially for a certain level of performance certainly for me that's always worked and so I slowly after that
 13:55 period reintroduced with fish and then moved back into um red meat and um and
 14:02 that's where sort of I found my balance so I wasn't eating as much red meat certainly as I was before i was more
 14:08 conscious of that eating way more like um fish and getting omegas but like
 14:14 still maintaining a really core plant based diet um that period of
 14:21 veganism you kind of like they say like the two most annoying groups of people on the planet are vegans because they
 14:28 won't shut up about it and crossfitters and I was a vegan your
 14:34 cross and that's who likes to talk i remember I remember reading something
 14:41 where vegans it becomes like such a core part of their identity like they're not
 14:48 just doing it for health purposes they like they form their own community as
 14:53 vegans and it becomes a part of who they are and that's the just like for me like the first thing you'll hear out of my
 14:59 mouth is that I'm Palestinian yeah like for them the first thing out of their mouth is I'm a vegan and it's like also
 15:06 they like it's so vegans have need sometimes need a sense of control and they can control things through their
 15:13 diet it becomes also very ingrained into an identity present yeah no I agree and
 15:19 I think because it's more of a preemptive thing cuz you just like I have to let people know in advance that I'm vegan because if I'm going somewhere
 15:26 they need to know that I'm not going to eat the vegan i think that's maybe where it came from i'm trying to give it the
 15:33 best benefit of the doubt but like yeah I think that it kind of develops sometimes into something that's
 15:40 like less about like convenience for everybody and more like you know what
 15:45 you really should like do this cuz I'm better than you and yes that's the
 15:50 that's that's been my experience yeah and that's kind of the part that also I didn't really buy into because I was
 15:57 like yes there's all these arguments that it's better for the for the environment and you know there's all these documentaries that came out on how
 16:03 much acreage is used just you know to get you your burger and to feed you know
 16:08 livestock and so like I understand a lot of that stuff but I was never like you know
 16:15 um under the sort of this this I guess like misplaced idea that
 16:21 like the whole world is going to change or has to change in a moment but I was just like well let's talk about doing
 16:27 what's healthy which is eating more plants and then you know living life in a in a way that's healthier in terms of
 16:33 preserving the planet which is across the board it's not just with what's on your plate so I kind of was able to
 16:39 separate the two but I think some people might not be able to my reasons
 16:45 were different i guess I can and I respect that like I could totally see you not being someone that imposes your
 16:52 your like what your what you feel right is right for you i don't see you as someone who would impose that on anybody
 16:58 else like this is what's working for me and in my like current state of mind and
 17:05 where my body is at this is what's working for me or what I'm trying or what I'm trying and sorry to interrupt you but like I was in Kenya when I was
 17:12 doing this most of that journey Kenya is a meat eating like culture there's no
 17:20 way I could have been able to stand up on a soap box anywhere and be like y'all need to stop you need to accommodate to
 17:26 me right now have been imagine family gatherings like here comes Lisa I can't
 17:32 even talk where's her vegan plate I'm going to literally have the salad and the greens like they'd be like "You're
 17:39 fine." And have some like chapati that's it you don't want anything else no I'm full so it was hard but I knew like this
 17:46 is not the target audience for preaching about like stop eating meat like I definitely was telling my family you
 17:53 know let's reduce our meat intake we already eat so much fish um and so I was like we're good like that's still like
 18:01 you know a better alternative and let's just up the veggies but yeah like I was never sort of gonna like preach to
 18:07 people grown people especially i was just like you know what people do what you want do your research and also like
 18:13 try something if you want and see if it works for you because my vegan journey was trying something um that was
 18:21 eventually got me to where I needed to be to find out what worked and um so yeah like try things do your research be
 18:28 informed and I can see I I I mean I know what was happening in your life at that time so just like how I mentioned like
 18:36 veganism is a level of control that some people need like that was how you were
 18:41 trying to regain control of what was happening because there were certain things that you really were outside of
 18:46 it they the stressors were so intense and so far out of your
 18:51 like control control that you needed something that you could say "Yep I know what I need to do i know how to do it
 18:58 what I need to do." And you were in complete like decision-making mode for
 19:04 that and nobody could interfere with that i think that's yeah a perfect point it was a big part of it the thing with
 19:10 vegans and veganism and I wouldn't say we can put it under the
 19:16 extreme do we put it under extreme dieting no i wouldn't put veganism under extreme sort of fitness trend there are
 19:25 extreme versions of it like raw veganis veganism I would say is a bit more extreme and certainly like yeah doing
 19:31 that exclusively is extreme and um as we
 19:37 have seen from like what happened to this woman like it's just I think her name is Zia we'll put her put her in the
 19:44 in the description um but yeah like I think obviously like how it's ended up for her indicates that it's not
 19:50 sustainable um and I would say things like that are more extreme things like
 19:55 you know like Liver King well what he purported ah yes his name is Brian Johnson there's more than one Brian
 20:02 Johnson we'll mention but this guy was the liver king and he's like you see pictures he was also raw not vegan but
 20:08 he did a lot of raw meat and his family too yeah the whole take was what they're
 20:15 trying to say put out there is that once his kids started getting older and they were and they put it in the article as
 20:22 they started interacting with the real world like they started having allergies
 20:27 from all the foods yeah he used to turn out turn off everything in his house like electricity like all of the so they
 20:33 started having all these allergies and that's when he took on this whole liver king diet and from what I understood and
 20:41 you can correct us and from what he put out there he was eating raw meat also and he was eating a lot of liver but he
 20:47 was also on he was lying he was on steroids yeah he was on massive gear and
 20:52 if you look at his if you look at his his physique truly you're like "Yeah
 20:58 that can all just be from eating raw inards." But um yeah it eventually came
 21:04 out that yeah he was he was not quite on the up and up but like again proven to
 21:10 not be sustainable and so also proves that you can't believe everything you read hear see and verification and
 21:19 trying what works for you or finding what works for you um is really an
 21:25 important journey to take because everyone's body yes we're all human beings blah blah blah but everyone's
 21:31 body the nuances are different it was really important but do your research do your research and it's again like these
 21:38 and I think we'll touch on this more than once like there is a whole
 21:43 marketing world around these different trends and veganism has become such a
 21:49 monster of its own like and that for me the part that I can't wrap my brain
 21:54 around is the processed foods that are out there for vegans like you go to the
 22:00 supermarket it's not I'm sorry but if you're going to see vegan chicken vegan beef like that shit's not all just soy
 22:07 or mushrooms or whatever like there's other [ __ ] that's in there too and I just that for me is just not and how do
 22:13 you get a bean to look like a beef patty like what is involved in this process
 22:19 and I love this a friend of mine and I were talking about this last week and she was like if you're going to be a vegan why are you trying to eat food
 22:25 that looks like meat like just don't just don't do it such a good point like why would you do that yeah i think
 22:31 that's for like formerly meat eating vegans that's not for vegans who were like I am really one with the plant and
 22:38 I don't crave meat that's for people who crave meat and crave meat and they need a substitute but again the the idea that
 22:44 there's there are a lot of processed elements in this and it goes to the same for us who are not vegans and are eating
 22:51 stuff like you know most of our food is processed if you go to the market you
 22:56 know if you have ingredients on the thing that you can't pronounce like I'm sorry to be fair when you live in
 23:01 Germany you're not going to be able to pronounce it anyway so I think that's where that's that's that part that
 23:09 they've they've found a way to profit off of this diet trend y business and
 23:14 it's a business like so many other things that are meant to be healthy because ultimately health and fitness is
 23:21 a business but it doesn't exist without unhealthy behaviors or unfit people that
 23:28 need something that need to be fit that need to find a way to being healthy because if everyone is healthy and fit
 23:33 the business as a business Yeah like your demand is gone so there's certain
 23:39 element and even the health care system like has a dog in the fight six all the
 23:44 sick people you know yeah you need to be sick for for for this to exist and to to for it to justify its existence so
 23:52 understanding that and um not buying into everything that is being sold is
 23:57 really important especially in a time frame where trends are everything everything is trending like you said
 24:03 about like sunny the balls and like or the pyreneium or um uh red light therapy
 24:11 or like cold ice ice bathing and um like all these things which truly might have
 24:17 healing properties and but it's it's thriving on the fact that we're a society of like trends like you we're
 24:24 going to show you something enough times to make you feel that you need it to survive and then we can sell you
 24:30 whatever we need to sell like so just yeah tread lightly yeah yeah take the
 24:35 grain of salt with it um although having said that there are some
 24:40 trends that are a little bit interesting and sort of like
 24:47 um I would say it's great that they are trending because they are things that have sort of led to behaviors or
 24:54 societal shifts that are moving in the right direction which is one of being one of
 25:03 One of which one of being is one which is which one of which is one
 25:11 of which is one of which is one of which is Yeah i don't need the being one of one of which is one of which is Wow
 25:20 yes or one being one being yeah i was trying to say both at the same time that's what it was um uh this is my
 25:28 class i'm forgetting how to talk and structure sentences one
 25:34 being now it's not even now it doesn't even sound right like it's just coming out i don't even know what I was going
 25:40 to say um being one being that the trend itself of people being conscious of
 25:46 health like that as a trend so the fact that I mean for good or bad reasons what happens thereafter but people really
 25:53 searching for like a more organic way of living people searching for holistic
 25:59 health rather than just like you know I want to be toned you know which we had
 26:05 spoken about before this which is another marketing gimmick um yeah something we grew up with yeah there's
 26:11 been a few coaches that I follow that have been posting about it this week oh really yes there's one coach that I I'm
 26:18 kidding no I love this coach she's actually a coach in Dubai and she put
 26:23 out a video and I even started looking up articles for it so this idea that toned became a term that was used to get
 26:32 women into the gyms because they were for the most part male-dominated because
 26:39 women assumed that if they were going to go to the gym and start lifting weights they were going to bulk up so what do
 26:44 they start saying come to the gym and get toned but the idea is that you can't
 26:49 tone muscles because muscles shrink and expand or they expand but they don't
 26:55 like harden but you get the illusion of soft muscle or flabby muscle because
 27:01 because the fat that's surrounding it so when you when you weight train and lose
 27:07 fat at the same time then you get the like my friend Lisa she's so silly right
 27:12 now toned muscles like that's where people will come up to and be like "Oh you look so toned." The that's what
 27:18 that's that is that is that comes the toning comes from yeah literally look
 27:23 retaining the muscle retaining the muscle strengthening it but reducing the fat around that's where that appearance
 27:29 of being toned comes from so that again was a marketing gimmick and it's just crazy how the And I'm an exarketer like
 27:36 I was a marketer before I became a coach it's just you see all the little It baffles my mind how much this industry
 27:43 like really takes people for a ride you know but if at least it got people in the gym moving then okay it's something
 27:50 you got to give credit where it's due yeah yeah it's like all right we're in the gym now okay now how do we like
 27:57 shift just like oh I want to be skinny but like you know toned how do we shift
 28:03 that to I want to be strong and capable which is where we've also seen then these different trends and so we've
 28:09 talked a bit about like health and like nutrition in terms of the food that you put in your mouth but then there's also
 28:14 like what movement should we be doing like you always see these different trends of what is I mean and we had Jane
 28:22 Fonda and like this weird remember those like the hip thigh master Jane Fonda what a blast fonda was
 28:30 all about aerobics and like jumping around jumping around for a full hour and using your own body weights and and
 28:37 then just being like leotards and leg warmers yeah that was the trend
 28:43 that's And then it was Billy Blanks who is still goes hard i'm sorry billy Blanks tao oh Tybo yeah yeah i love Tybo
 28:52 yeah so good i love Tybo so good so good i did that the other day as well that was good that was good um um but that
 28:59 was like again body weight but still like building on this idea of being strong because even like what I liked
 29:05 about when his videos came out it was really quite revolutionary at the time when he started to have people in a
 29:11 video that all looked different so he'd have like old ladies back there he'd have like people who were different shapes and sizes he'd have people back
 29:17 there who were like who would stop in the middle of the workout and be like I can't and honestly
 29:23 that was so great to see you just reminded me of Richard Simmons do you
 29:28 remember Richard Simmons the same thing unfortunately I do yeah oh but because that's he cuz he worked with really
 29:34 overweight people but about like dancing to your perfect body yeah yeah he used
 29:42 to be quite overweight right he was overweight himself too yeah didn't they have like a movie about it or they're
 29:47 making a biopic yeah yeah with like Paulie Shore or I think I didn't know oh that would
 29:52 be interesting that would be really interesting cuz I think he has a pretty interesting story he's quite reclusive yeah but I think he's Oh no he died
 29:58 didn't he no I don't know but all I know is he was really quite reclusive um and
 30:03 I think you only saw him in those videos yeah and then he kind of went out of the public eye so it's Yeah it's very
 30:10 Netflix documentaryish it's giving That'll be interesting but anyway um yeah I really loved that that they had
 30:17 at that time you'd never see anyone that wasn't like you know this skinny like white woman with her perfect ponytail
 30:24 scrunchies and like her matching like leotard leg warmer like combo they just
 30:29 had regular people and what I liked about Billy he would be out there he'd be counting he'd stop counting he'd talk
 30:35 to the camera he'd lose count they'd be like in the background like "What are we doing now he did this movement on one
 30:41 side he forgot to do the same movement on the other side i was like this is the chaos I live for this is real [ __ ]
 30:49 happening and I'm still kind of going to get fit like you know it's fine i'm going to get there but I like that I
 30:55 kept it real a little bit more which still resonates with people it's the people that kind of keep it real that
 31:00 that make that indelible mark so I like that the trend of fitness has become a
 31:06 trend i like that with that obviously with every um bunch of apples there
 31:11 would be a few bad ones and so yeah you have these marketing employees that take advantage of people's trustingness and
 31:18 people's desire to be healthy really really kind of saying okay where is this coming from what is the research behind
 31:23 that why would this work for me understanding my body enough to understand that won't work for me but
 31:29 this might um is really important and I think that works even on a like mental
 31:34 and emotional level because part of your health emotionally is also what you
 31:39 consume like what you see every day and what you um expose yourself to so do you
 31:47 have a toxic group of friends do you have a toxic parent do you have an
 31:53 abusive toxic partner do you um or do you have all of these things that are really positive that you can actually
 31:59 incorporate into your healthy lifestyle or someone that's really great for positivity that you need to like make
 32:06 more time to see and spend time with you know so I think it's it's the same approach that can apply to so many
 32:12 different aspects of being healthy um leave the country for example
 32:18 she still has spitballing she still hasn't left the country hypothetical example like we made it a plan that she
 32:25 would leave and she hasn't left travel not leave not no like travel I mean I
 32:31 think we said in December like one of we talked about resolutions oh yeah we was like yeah I'm going to book it in
 32:37 January we need to book it by like January it's done yeah we're in March
 32:43 okay and um no it's happening I've I've yeah I've got I've got things in the works you know that I know this I know
 32:49 this I know so what can Tell me what can be said about fitness trends right now like so there is weight training there's
 32:57 hit there's Pilates um Yeah and I love
 33:02 that Pilates and maybe it's just my algorithm but I feel like Pilates especially reformer is getting like a
 33:07 resurgence yes all in my in my feed that's all I see pilates i love it i
 33:14 love it and I wish it was more accessible yeah but especially the reformer because it is one of the
 33:22 fitness trends that until more recently maybe has been slept on like reformer
 33:27 Pilates is no joke and I love seeing videos of like really strong
 33:33 got it you guys have to just look like these bodybuilders on the reformer can't keep
 33:41 up with who man and especially if the if the instructor is doing it next to them
 33:46 yeah because you see how the movement is meant to look like there's this one woman who like came into like a pike
 33:52 position and then her leg went straight up and then she came down into like balancing on the bar with her foot just
 33:58 like on the bench yeah and one foot up in the air and then like this and then brought her foot down and through and
 34:04 did this like all of this in a plank position i said "I'm falling dead on the
 34:09 machine." Yeah yeah and like the dude can't even push out to get into the first part of the movement and he's
 34:16 jacked jacked i love that about it i love that about it and again something
 34:22 that you can like read the history of read about Joseph Pilates and about like the fact that he was told like he was
 34:28 sickly and he couldn't be able he wouldn't live past a certain age and he could and this is was what he said "All
 34:33 right well I'm going to find something that works for me and if I don't find it I'll make it." And that's kind of that
 34:40 attitude of like do my research not believe necessarily everything that's told to me and find a way to to to see
 34:48 what works for me exactly and so yeah we wouldn't have this incredible incredible workout if it if it wasn't
 34:55 for that yeah if you haven't tried Pilates I totally recommend it definitely i mean of course make sure
 35:01 that you go to a reputable Yeah establishment um and yeah especially if
 35:09 it's a really good studio and obviously I know like there is some systemic sort
 35:15 of like elitism attached to it and so you know it's not accessible for everyone because like there's a cost cut
 35:23 off crossfit has the same criticisms and I criticize it for the same reason and I think there's some reasons as to why
 35:29 they kind of want to keep it away from certain communities but I think yeah if if you can sort of take the good and
 35:36 ignore the and you have access you you manage to access a studio that's good definitely try it it's life-changing
 35:43 because even if you don't get to go back there's certain ways and methods of
 35:49 movement and awakening muscles in your body that you'll be tiny muscles like the yo those are I didn't even know that
 35:56 there was like an ab inside that ab on that side because when you're in so much pain trying to hold yourself together
 36:02 your body goes to anything to to keep you yeah and then you feel
 36:08 [ __ ] you've never felt before oh man it's so good and um it gives you body
 36:14 awareness that I think a lot of other forms of movement um might not do as well so yeah if you have a chance try it
 36:20 out or like YouTube it you can also YouTube Matt Pilates as well um I think
 36:26 stop Pilates is is quite a good one um but yeah yeah it's fun and just like
 36:31 play with it like find other things that you might like as well because your body like do something sort of consistently
 36:37 and listen to it and it'll tell you like I like this i don't like this yeah I agree
 36:43 how do you feel about Are there any
 36:48 bizarre trends and maybe this bizarre is not the right word mhm but any trends
 36:54 that you do that are um maybe not the
 36:59 not something that the average person does like we
 37:05 mentioned ba sunbathing your perennium and the perennium is like the part between the bum hole and your and
 37:14 whatever's in front and the right the grundle I think is the name for it is
 37:20 the other name for it the the I only know that because of Dom Grindle
 37:28 um shout out to Dom um but um yeah that
 37:35 stop the area the area between
 37:43 the anal sphincter and whatever you're carrying in the front thank you that
 37:48 separator yeah yeah that apparently if you sunbathe it and like I guess you're
 37:55 in the what's that position in yoga where you have your feet up in the air yeah like open yeah i I call it the
 38:02 stirup position but that's not I guess that's how you sunbathe it and it's supposed to give you energy yeah yeah
 38:09 i've heard that like really good yeah yeah but they say especially for men yeah i don't It's a part that doesn't
 38:15 get sun ever so so I mean yeah I guess it would be quite happy to be like "Oh
 38:21 wow." Yeah light up here maybe it does awaken something i don't know but I I would try it i just haven't found a
 38:27 place i mean I'd literally have to be like on a deserted island by myself i mean you could go to the nude beaches
 38:33 here no cuz the position required position is very like intimate like I
 38:39 can't imagine i already feel awkward when I'm in my lasering position like
 38:44 literally when you're getting a Brazilian done well like even if I'm in yoga class or whatever and I'm in that
 38:50 position or if I'm doing stretching oh happy baby happy baby happy baby yeah where you go up like this and you like
 38:55 tap your feet together yeah like I giggle the entire time like it's not like Did I tell you about when we were
 39:00 doing that once in yoga when I was in Sydney and we came back down and someone queefed really loud and I think because
 39:08 every single woman has the fear that that might one day be her nobody reacted
 39:13 everyone was like "Listen listen we got We got you." She deserves all the grace in the world i'm just glad it wasn't me
 39:19 it wasn't me but I'm not gonna bring attention to it yeah that used to scare me to death i'd be like "I can't breathe
 39:25 i can't inhale do nothing when I'm getting into that position because if I come back down
 39:32 curtains." Okay so we don't So we've established that neither one of us does perennium sun but I'm open to it that's
 39:38 something that I want to read more about and find out where it works although I do know a little bit about the benefits
 39:43 of vitamin D for sure and that most of us have a deficiency um so I would definitely be open to trying to trying
 39:50 that what about trends like oil pulling i don't even know much about that so
 39:55 that's something that I do you take coconut oil like a spoon of coconut oil and you put it in your mouth and you
 40:01 swish it around in your mouth for like 15 minutes 15 20 minutes um and it's
 40:06 supposed to collect all of the it's supposed to basically get all of the toxins that have collected in your body
 40:13 out through the mouth through the mouth and really I also think like
 40:18 so the oil is literally pulling it out of your body that's what it's that's what when I've under it's like an it's
 40:24 an ancient ayurveetic um method to treat treatment whatever
 40:29 yeah um and it's it's a way to pull the toxins out and because your mouth like
 40:35 is so close to your brain and the bacteria that collect like it's supposed to be very there's no scientific
 40:42 like like database data that says that this is really what it does right right
 40:48 i also don't think maybe they do enough research on these type of things because if they figure out you can just go get a
 40:54 jar of coconut oil that really lasts you a long time that's not good for the health bacteria then you lose out on
 41:00 mouthwash and I'm not saying you do this and you don't brush your teeth
 41:06 that's not what we're saying you still got to brush your teeth you still got to floss like you got to get do all of those things do all that um but like
 41:12 mouthwash for example causes a lot of bacteria in the mouth it does the exact opposite and but the like you go to any drugstore
 41:21 like that's that's a very prominent product that you that you find
 41:26 and you can imagine how many I also find it weird that it's something that you're putting in your mouth that basically says try not to swallow it like that's
 41:33 always like an issue to me like why am I putting something in my mouth that like
 41:39 is not really good to be in my body like yeah just weird yeah it hits me weird that but yeah this oil pulling is
 41:46 interesting but it also helps with bre bad breath and it helps I I've noticed that when I do do it I get like a
 41:52 slightly it it whitens a little bit like not majorly but you see a slight Okay
 41:58 coconut oil is like magical yeah I think you can do it with other types of oils i remember reading something I don't know
 42:04 if it was sunflower oil or some other oil but I prefer coconut oil but it does take a bit of getting used to especially
 42:10 when you take it's like solid and you put it turns into liquid and you got to just keep Yeah but I always do it like
 42:17 like I'll get up in the morning I'll do it and I'll be like washing my face as I'm doing it yeah so you're distracting
 42:22 getting dressed like preparing the kids um lunch boxes for school so I'm So the
 42:27 15 minutes go by cuz also 15 minutes it's a long time you can build up to that like five minutes and then 10
 42:33 minutes and then 15 minutes interesting yeah I like that one there's a there's another one also that I hold on let me
 42:39 look oil pulling no that I can definitely try because I'm a big prop big proponent of anything coconut oil it
 42:48 says here claims claim include reduce plaque prevention of cavities and
 42:53 strengthening of gums this is from women'shealthmag.com and then also believed to remove the toxins from the
 42:59 body leading to improved overall health but again um
 43:06 no clear database well the scientific perspective is that it can reduce oral
 43:12 bacteria but should not replace and that's not what I'm saying it should not replace teeth brushing yeah okay right
 43:18 um so it's like an addition to whatever you're already doing to Yeah okay so
 43:24 that was oil pulling i wanted to ask you about um mouth taping also something
 43:30 that when we talked about I was like first of all I have had that threatened to be
 43:36 done with to me enough times dude in school I was always a talker I was like oh in that sense super disruptive so
 43:43 when I hear mouth taping it's very like traumatizing it's the PTSD so explain
 43:49 this one to me as well okay so mouth taping I've seen a it's actually I've been seeing it among athletes like
 43:54 they're the ones that are actually push promoting it like if you go on to um there's Holland and there's a few other
 44:02 ones who really like they have like this solid black tape that they put on their mouths while they're sleeping and it's
 44:09 supposed to prevent um breathing from your mouth because that apparently dehydrates you and also keeps you from
 44:17 snoring saying there's some people during the day walking around who need that greenhead it keeps you from snoring
 44:23 and you know that when you snore that means you're not actually um sleeping properly so that affects you you know
 44:30 and you're not getting enough oxygen getting enough oxygen and then that also affects your sleep your um sleep health
 44:36 and the quality of your sleep so there's this idea also the quality of the sleep
 44:42 of the people next to you exactly yeah so this is called mouse taping and my husband and I have tried it
 44:49 um cuz he is a snorer mhm but his biggest he's always like afraid to stop
 44:56 breathing yeah totally i And they actually warn against it like if you have sleep apnea if you're not a
 45:02 shouldn't shouldn't do it yeah you shouldn't do it like it really should be just for those who are I guess not
 45:09 healthy but like don't have anything that's like sleep disorders yeah sleep disorders it's going to affect them fair
 45:16 that makes sense that would be my fear too i've tried it a few times i didn't like there are specific and this again
 45:21 goes back to the marketing um industry they have like a whole list of products
 45:27 now for mouth taping so you get like these really like thick ones that men are using and then you have like these
 45:33 really dainty ones that look like an X and you put it on your mouth oh sorry you put like a little X on your put a
 45:38 little X on your mouth and of course it's a picture of a woman and she's like all peaceful and stuff and has the X on
 45:44 her mouth sleeping with a full face of makeup yeah yeah yeah um and so I was just like okay there's a whole there's a
 45:51 whole industry for that now too marketing execs never have a day off but this one also they say there's not
 45:56 enough scientific research yet to say whether it really works or not so okay you got to try it out yourself you got
 46:02 to see if it's actually something that works for you and do your research again like see um um if it's something that
 46:09 works but when we did try it I think my sleep wasn't the quality of it wasn't
 46:15 that great because I could feel something on my mouth the entire time good point and I was very aware of it
 46:22 but I think had I got this little the little X maybe oh you the cute one would work for you you're like actually low
 46:28 key the marketing is on point ken's mouth is like so strong like he like
 46:34 managed to rip it off while he was the big black one yeah no it wasn't a black one like we just found regular
 46:42 like tape like medical tape medical tape i think it was we It says not the
 46:47 kinesiology kinesiology tape but something else it was like Yeah yeah yeah that stuff that you put like when
 46:53 you have Yeah but that like that didn't work and then I also kept thinking I'm putting this adhesive on my skin while I
 46:58 sleep like am I am I ingesting that adhesive like I don't know like it all just Yeah so I don't know that I would
 47:06 be afraid last very long but I'm not completely against I may I may
 47:12 I'm open to trying it out again but if I find like right quality um tape that's
 47:18 also like non-toxic and Yeah and that helps you actually be able to keep sleeping then Yeah no I would be I would
 47:24 be open to seeing someone else try it
 47:30 i would be Yeah open to sort of hearing more about it uh no snoring's not a
 47:36 problem but I've noticed that I have been sleeping with my mouth open more often now and I only noticed it because
 47:42 with the heat on your mouth so dry like I literally wake up and like my lip is
 47:47 like like stuck on my teeth and like my whole roof of my mouth is dry like I'm
 47:54 like I can't even like run my tongue along it and that's cuz the air is so dry and I'm like wow this is my mouth
 48:01 and I'm in this like a lot of hours like God what is it doing to my skin so
 48:06 that's when I realized oh my god am I a mouth breather in the in the night time I've learned also that my whole all of
 48:12 us are mouth breathers like all the kids sleep with their mouths open me and Khad also so unless I'm on well actually I
 48:19 don't know if I'm on my side I'm not sure if I'm a mouth breather yeah yeah definitely on the back yeah I think I'm
 48:25 I am when I'm on the or whenever I am but the mouth is open although I think I have I've woken a few
 48:31 time woken up a few times on my stomach and like drool coming out so I'm guessing I'm a mouth breather even on my
 48:39 stomach in there but that's that that's that good sleep that I
 48:46 wasn't facing when that happens it's always facing the other way good so subconsciously you now you're just like
 48:53 husband in back now drooling may happen oh my god the times that I've woken up
 48:59 drooling like when there's a wet spot on a pillow has been some of the best sleep just like it's been years since I've had
 49:06 like a good drool nap or sleep I think before the baby yeah i But I remember
 49:11 those with fondness definitely oh my god such good sleep have you tried red light
 49:17 therapy uh we have one here um so in like infrared sort of um and I've tried
 49:23 it actually over the last few weeks because um Michael was using it for like his back so he's used it before I hadn't
 49:30 and I was like let me try it out cuz I was a little bit sore from training the other week so I was like let me try it
 49:36 and um like I don't know if it's placebo effect or you know what I mean so I was
 49:42 like or maybe I'm just actually getting less sore but yeah I did feel like you know it kind of took a little bit of
 49:47 that of that soreness and that sort of yucky tension feeling out um a little bit but I would have to do it more often
 49:55 to kind of see and I know there's a lot of people that have like the red light masks for like face for their face for
 50:00 like I guess younger looking skin that [ __ ] is terrifying tightens the skin have you seen those masks and people
 50:07 sleep with them on i can't i wouldn't sleep with I would do it maybe like in
 50:12 the evenings while I'm watching my Netflix like I'll do it then to sleep with it like can you imagine waking up
 50:17 to that oh my god that'd be like that'd be too scary i'm sorry it's literally
 50:23 like what's the name is it Jason it's a Jason mask jason yeah i'm like I'm not
 50:28 waking up next to that if you wear that after I've gone to sleep and I wake up to see it like it's the cuff system and
 50:35 it's also just the idea that isn't like there's wires involved right like Yeah i don't think they like I'm not I'm not
 50:41 comfortable with all of that but I have a friend who does red light therapy but she just has it it's like a light that's
 50:48 in the room and she just sits in it in the evenings but she doesn't actually have it and I think I would prefer
 50:53 something like that like I don't know i don't feel very comfortable with anything being so
 50:58 in like so up in my in my face in my face yeah um well a few things
 51:09 but jokes PG PG
 51:17 the PG people won't get it anyway so it's fine
 51:22 but there's like yeah there's definitely some interesting trends out there right now yeah yeah i mean it's it's it's so
 51:29 many oh my god we didn't even touch on like Ompic and like the fact that there's these um trends of people using
 51:38 replacing healthy weight loss with something that's meant for like Yeah for like medical treatment although I have
 51:46 to say my issue was like it's a shortcut like just [ __ ] eat healthy and like
 51:52 live healthy and remember I told you because we had this discussion I'm like I read a lot about this and I'm like
 51:57 okay I understand how GLP1s work right on a lay person's scale and I was
 52:03 like I understand that this is something that is revolutionary and potentially something that can help especially
 52:10 people who have like lifelong issues with obesity but um again the marketing
 52:16 the fact that it's like a get skinny quick skinny quick scheme scheme scheme
 52:22 is the And then it's like people are overusing it and then people are
 52:27 replacing healthy habits and healthy things like exercise with it is where
 52:32 I'm like and this is where like again we have something good that like
 52:38 gets turned into something ugly because or something that has potential for good gets turned into something ugly because
 52:45 maybe the marketing and the misuse and so again research is really really
 52:51 important and understanding why something exists and how it works is also really
 52:57 important but then also understanding what works for you um and not just what works for you on your body but what
 53:03 works for your philosophy like your Yeah literally like your values and how you
 53:08 want to live you know like your belief system yeah what is something that I I can actually feel okay about doing my
 53:15 whole life but also what is something that is like okay with my with my soul
 53:21 so to speak you know what do you see as new trends coming up for the fitness and
 53:27 health industry what what I've seen and this is probably just because like Paris
 53:33 Fashion Week just ended and so like what I've seen is a lot of
 53:39 people going back to skinny like I'm seeing a lot more of that again which I thought we kind of had moved past and
 53:46 left in the past i'm seeing a lot more of that but also with um Oh
 53:53 god I really wanted to like her i really did but
 53:59 Megan's show on Netflix if you We were all rooting for you but the
 54:07 trend that I want to talk about that has brought that topic up is this trend of like and it's something that I'm also
 54:13 buying into because I I'm I'm starting to post a lot of like cooking content but that's just because I like cooking i'm by no means like a professional i
 54:19 just kind of like doing it and it's what I do and it's part of my day really not um but like the fact that like there is
 54:26 this huge still this huge capacity for people to want to consume cooking content and like sort of home I love her
 54:33 recipes girl that pasta
 54:39 oh the one pan pasta i mean that's not something she invented though no it's not but you're gonna
 54:46 Oh it My issue is first of all she tries to sell a lot of the things to us by saying my kids love it and I'm like
 54:53 "Girl first of all no they don't."
 54:58 You know she's got the chicken nuggets on side please and also she's like "Oh I put this in their lunches." I'm like
 55:04 "Aren't your Isn't your baby like lunches for going where is she Is she going to meet the girls for brunch?"
 55:12 Like listen I don't even have a problem with the recipes because like that Korean guy who came in and made that
 55:17 fried chicken I was like and you know I don't re take down recipes but when he was I
 55:24 was like I have a whole website dedicated just to her and her recipes on Netflix i'll send it to you they have
 55:29 screenshot his chicken because the way that method and the fried the milk and
 55:35 the woo the milk brine that was like revolutionary and
 55:41 then the sauces that he made and I'm all about sauces when I cook there has to be at least one or two sauces on and the
 55:47 fact that he had three yeah three and the way that chicken looked after he fried it I said and the quick the quick
 55:52 kimchi and the pickles and all that and and he was like just throw all that spice in there the way I saw the spices
 55:59 yeah so what were you like you brought her up because that is a trend that I'm seeing the trend of going back to the
 56:06 not back to but like I think there was like obviously the Martha Stewart times and like there's a time that that had
 56:11 like a really big sort of following and then kind of and like people went
 56:16 towards like fitness videos or d like you know all these celebrities were like oh I'm going to do a fitness video or I'm going to do a podcast or you know
 56:24 whatever and now like we're kind of seeing people moving back towards like um you know furnishings home furnishings
 56:30 cooking da da da so I see that people are moving back towards that but also really towards like what is sustainable
 56:37 living so not just sustainable in terms of I got these berries from the garden which she does which and she's picking
 56:44 I'm like girl you just said this isn't your garden like what no it is her garden it's just not her house it's like
 56:51 the stage house yeah but when she goes outside in the garden outside the house that's not the garden that she's
 56:57 actually collected it from is it but she's sitting she's sitting with Roy Troy and they're looking at the mountains that's And that's not her
 57:03 house she says this is we're so lucky to have found this place that's not her actual house not where they're cooking
 57:10 no that's Yeah but when they sit in front of the pool and there's the mountain that's not her house i think it's part of the It's on the land of her
 57:18 it's on the land it's on the on the property like when she says it's not my house part of the compound like [ __ ]
 57:24 you know that your house is literally like a you know you take the go-kart you came with the go-kart and you're going
 57:29 up the hill to the house like come on literally i think Yeah so that's kind of
 57:36 the trend that I'm seeing where people kind of want and it's hard for her like I do get it because it's hard to she
 57:41 wants to be approachable and like relatable but at the same time we want to see someone who's relatable but we
 57:47 also want to see someone who does things kind of like perfectly like we thought
 57:52 talked about the aesthetic like the food that looks nice martha Stewart was like "Listen this is the hill I'm going to die on i am perfect and if you can't
 57:59 measure up don't do it." But that was her branding and she did it well and it worked for her not everyone can do that
 58:07 um and she was unapologetic about but she was also like an incredibly brilliant businesswoman still is um
 58:15 Megan's a different sort of business woman she owns business yeah she's making her preserves and all that
 58:21 but I like I think she's trying to also put herself out there in a different light um yeah but I think there is a the
 58:30 reason that so many people watch it and it's been renewed for another season is because I think people want to consume
 58:36 more um content again about like cooking and d and like I'm even seeing that with
 58:42 like my algorithm and with so like that's sort of a trend that I'm seeing where people are like we want to kind of
 58:48 also be able to cook at home and like do fun healthy like nicel looking food at
 58:55 home and be able to kind of be sustainable about it so that's kind of a nice trend okay I like that i see
 59:03 um for What did you think of it by the way just quick one of that document have you seen it i've seen only up until Roy
 59:10 Choy like he was the I saw that last night did you see Did you see the Mindy Kaling one
 59:16 yeah i can't believe you know it's so funny that you keep calling me Megan
 59:23 because you know I'm Sussex now now you know because and it's just so beautiful to take the last name of to
 59:29 have the last name of your face is I swear to God that woman is so funny
 59:35 she's a comedian without saying a word i [ __ ] love Mindy Kay and the fact that she was like but there was something
 59:41 about Mindy's episode and the episode with her makeup artist it was awkward but Roy
 59:48 I don't know maybe because Roy Choy came in and he was the one kind of like these are my recipes this is what we're going to do boom boom boom boom boom it wasn't
 59:55 much of her talking it was more because there's something is the is the chef who was the the Korean he I think it was
 1:00:01 less awkward but there was still awkward places where like cuz he you can tell like he's very LA he's very like And
 1:00:06 he's also done like he has his own cooking show exactly so he was very natural like but so and he kind of led
 1:00:12 the energy but that's the thing i'm like it's your show how are your guests more interesting yeah and more engaging than
 1:00:18 you like you're not even you're just like it was like she was like like an accessory do you know what I mean and
 1:00:24 then she was like struggling to be relevant she was like like remember when people were doing the Roger Rabbit i was like you weren't doing the girl by like
 1:00:35 just stop like I don't know yeah that was it it's been hard to watch but I She
 1:00:40 said it's been hard hard to watch but I like her I like her recipes i uh Yeah
 1:00:45 yeah they don't seem too bad i like that they're they're really easy like it's nothing that's like hard to find and
 1:00:51 they're like simple and and and more basic um I just hate that she puts flower petals
 1:00:59 on everything and it's so pretty it's so fun isn't that just like a bit of joy
 1:01:05 and my kids love it why must flower petals go on everything i don't know no
 1:01:11 it doesn't go on everything flower petals in the ice cube even oh yeah stop go get me a real drink what is this yeah
 1:01:18 yeah yeah yeah those drinks that she made for her friend also there's alcohol in every
 1:01:24 single scene i was like "Oh that's true i mean no judgment but like I was like
 1:01:30 you don't have to show us all the time." I'm I'm interested to see how the rest of the episodes play out but I I am as
 1:01:37 well um but yeah it was uh it was interesting but I'm I'm glad that we're sort of going towards um what seems to
 1:01:44 be a trend of people eating at home as well yeah and making foods that because remember there was also a trend where it
 1:01:50 was like all restaurant shows and like master chef and like professional cooking but now it's like I understand
 1:01:56 it was like regular for the average person exactly those of us who don't want to be like "Oh I jump in my own
 1:02:02 chocolates and you know like regular food that looks cute." Yeah
 1:02:08 for the for the average person the simple like a simple person who wants to
 1:02:14 make pretty like I want to make kimchi but the ingredients are sometimes hard
 1:02:19 to find or sometimes like I don't want to buy a whole thing of fish oil and to
 1:02:25 use it once but like still I I'll do it for kimchi and so his recipe yesterday was so easy and so Oh did you do it
 1:02:31 yesterday no no like it's something that I want to do and he and normally with kimchi you have to wait to let it
 1:02:36 ferment and girl does some milk right now and Yeah I like that about it cuz that fermenting smell when that's
 1:02:43 happening you open that pot oh yeah it's it's a hot mess yeah but aides from that
 1:02:49 I think what I envision or see happening um for the future of fitness and health
 1:02:57 industry is maybe a little bit of AI stepping in or customized training
 1:03:02 programs again I'm not somebody that maybe would go to that because I still would prefer like human human
 1:03:09 interaction i think a lot of our generation would but AI is a big thing and it's coming it's coming and I see it
 1:03:15 in a lot of different industries it's going to have its place but um aides from that I also feel that a lot of
 1:03:22 coaches are also gonna and we talked about this before recording that coaches
 1:03:27 will become specialized by coaches I mean fitness trainers will become specialized as
 1:03:33 mental health um professionals as well because I think it's so important how
 1:03:39 amazing would that be for me to go to a health prof like a fitness trainer and tell them I want to lose weight and they
 1:03:46 come at me from a holistic standpoint like okay why do you want to lose weight why is it so important once you do lose
 1:03:53 the weight are you trying to lose weight just for like a one-off thing or is it something that you want to sustain and
 1:03:59 continue to and or you know you're gaining weight now we've been on this journey what's happening in your life
 1:04:06 that's sort of influencing that you haven't changed your eating habits it's not your intake it's not your calories
 1:04:11 what What are you going through let's let's kind of unpack that and deal with that and I think that's so valuable to have someone who's a fitness expert but
 1:04:17 also understands how your body responds to certain stimuli outside of food or
 1:04:22 how you eat differently based on certain or how you metabolize differently based
 1:04:28 on so like someone who studied psychology or you know um nutrition but
 1:04:33 like in an in-depth way to the way that they're really qualified to be able to give you that like like invaluable sort
 1:04:41 of like packet of information in one place going to be awesome um there's a friend of mine actually who's she's
 1:04:46 doing a psychology degree and she's Shona Shauna Sha Virtue yeah so she's an
 1:04:51 incredible fitness person if you don't know her you've been under a rock but she Yeah is already built this empire of
 1:04:59 Yes we'll do um this empire in the fitness industry she's you know ex um
 1:05:05 elite gymnast and she has like decades of yoga experience but also heaps of weight training everything she talks
 1:05:11 about always has like factual scientifically that's why I love it and she just packages it really well and
 1:05:17 she's like doing a psychology degree you know a masters and I'm like oh my god
 1:05:22 like this is such like invaluable information so important mental health
 1:05:27 in itself has also become a trend like just facts you know what I mean yes so
 1:05:34 yes but in a good way because I think now it's coming to light that you know if you're not mentally healthy up here
 1:05:40 it's okay and there's something that can be done about it it's not something taboo anymore it's not something to be
 1:05:46 ashamed of and it's fixable and it's essential to have alignment with the
 1:05:52 body like it is an essential part of health alto together so I think we covered a lot we covered you know we
 1:05:59 learned um what's what's to be said to do your
 1:06:05 own research for any of these trends that Oh my god it's [ __ ] snowing sorry
 1:06:11 oh Christ it sure is sorry i just looked outside i was in a I was like I had a
 1:06:19 train of thought and then I looked outside and it's snowing like you want to talk about mind [ __ ] and mental
 1:06:24 health like like there goes mine there goes mine because I swear to you last
 1:06:30 week I was in a t-shirt no the week before when my kids were on holiday 18
 1:06:35 degrees i went I went out every day with my kid on a bike ride and I had a t-shirt on like and the sky was blue and
 1:06:41 now look and it's snowing anyway so the point is do your research anything that
 1:06:48 comes along like any of these influencers like don't just expect that
 1:06:54 what these influencers are saying is like the magical cure that's going to be
 1:07:00 all the be all and end all like do your own research definitely um and stay away
 1:07:05 from anything that's too extreme you know like we definitely want to push for this idea of sustainable healthy living
 1:07:12 don't put rose petals on everything
 1:07:18 I think also just really learning to move your body in ways that feel good
 1:07:24 for you you know like whatever might be trending you know if they say hit hit
 1:07:30 training is what you should be doing but your body really just does not Yeah do well after hate training i call hate
 1:07:36 training like find something else you know yeah there's so many We're really lucky we're living in a in a in a in an
 1:07:42 era where there's so many different kinds of fitness and you know you can find something that kind of works and if
 1:07:49 you don't find it Joseph Pilates that [ __ ] f make something that works for you you know
 1:07:54 Billy blanks that [ __ ] create something that make that works for you I know for what works for me is like having a mix
 1:08:01 of things so like one day I might do strength training the next day I'll do dancing the next day I'll do Pilates and
 1:08:06 then another day it'll be like just purely stretching or yoga or something like that so like just having that um
 1:08:12 like finding what works for me um I think really works for my body because I
 1:08:18 know that if I did although I love strength training I know if I did it every day my body would it's like boring
 1:08:23 no it's not just boring like my body would be in pain all of the time do you know I did I don't know how true this is
 1:08:30 and this might also be something in trends is you can do blood tests that tell you first of all what foods agree
 1:08:36 with your body and what exercises agree with your body so I'm a positive and
 1:08:42 according to my blood type oh according to my blood type there's certain foods I shouldn't be eating like tomatoes which
 1:08:48 breaks my heart but I'll eat it every now and then oh acidity yeah and like um
 1:08:54 and then apparently like hardcore intense training doesn't agree with my body like when I'm sore like I will be
 1:09:01 sore for a That's why you don't like literally Yeah your body's like Yeah my body's literally saying no don't do it
 1:09:07 but I also like if I were to do um hit training once or twice a week like I
 1:09:13 would look forward to it too especially if I'm in a group setting but to do it every day my body would be like every
 1:09:19 day is a lot too yes that's a lot yeah wow interesting but um I digress movement
 1:09:29 good quality sleep consistency things that you're able to keep doing yeah and sort of that's the question you ask
 1:09:35 yourself whatever it is that you take up that you say I want to do this if you're past this stage of sort of trying things
 1:09:41 and you're like "All right I want to make a shift or change." First question you should ask yourself "Can I do this
 1:09:46 for the rest of my life?" Yeah that should be the question yeah and if the answer is no then find something else
 1:09:54 yeah just retweak you know that's it go back to the drawing board um but I was
 1:09:59 saying quality sleep is also important and then stress management like learning how to cope with the different stressors
 1:10:05 in your life girl we still learning
 1:10:10 onward onward and continue with process but um yeah i know i think that's really
 1:10:16 good a really good synopsis of of kind of the trends right now at least the ones that we know about guys share with
 1:10:21 us if there's things that you know of that we haven't covered or the weird maybe you've done some weird trends that
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