Angelic Chemistry: Samael Explains The Poison of God

In this episode Tava Baird and Jennifer Taylor unravel the mystery behind Samael referring to himself as The Poison of God.  In this profound and meaningful episode your hosts, along with their guides Samael and Archangel Michael, explore the inner workings of angelic chemistry.  Along the way, deeper insights into the personal soul journeys of these two angels, and their relationship with each other, emerge as well.  Interwoven with 3 live channeled songs from Michael, and heartfelt messages from Samael, this episode is one for the books! 

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Transcript

Angelic Chemistry: Samael Explains The Poison of God

Tava Baird: [00:00:00] Hello Jen. 

Jennifer Taylor: Hello. Tava. 

Tava Baird: Here we are. We are back in the saddle and I know we have plans for today, but as you know, with us the best laid plans. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yes indeed. I was laughing to Keith yesterday. I was like, here we went and bothered to come up with deciding what we were gonna talk about.

I was like, and that's the surest way to know that things are gonna go in a different direction. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. Eventually when we die on our tombstones, there's just gonna be inscription of podcast topics they meant to talk about before they went, but never got to. And then there'll be a list 

Jennifer Taylor: or they had a plan Do 

Tava Baird: do dot the universe had other plans.

Exactly. Oh my goodness. I know you've had a very energetic morning. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yes. I have spent the last, hour and a half [00:01:00] in a, session with a client. And so I've been in a very expanded, very different sort of state. So I'm working my way back into a place where I can be somewhat articulate.

I'm hoping like reassembling the molecules. And yeah, it's been a very energetic, week again. and then we were just talking about how, like, is this how it's gonna always be? Like is this just spring or is this just sort of how things are now at this new place where we are? 

Tava Baird: I was just listening to a message from a dear friend of mine who also listens to the podcast, who is instantly gonna recognize that it's him when he hears me say this.

But he was like. What is the timeline of like, what has happened to you over the last couple of years? the stuff that happens in your life, it's almost like it's fiction. He's like, and then I read the fiction and he's like, except that I know that the stuff on the podcast is real.

I [00:02:00] had actually a couple of, I guess it a couple of days ago, my husband had said to me in the middle of me talking about something, you know, you're weird, right? And I went, not weird. And he went a, and I said, okay, maybe I'm a little weird, but that makes you weird too, because you married me.

And he was like, honey, you are weird. Weird. So then like today I got up and I'm like, I'm not weird. Let me take a look at what my day is. okay. I went for a massage. That's fricking awesome. Then I get to podcasts with Jen, who channels Archangel Michael. Then I leave that to go do a spiritual mentorship session with somebody where we're gonna talk about all sorts of stuff.

Then I have a call with, um, someone from the Blue Ball Inn who was in kind of a tizzy telling me something really strange I needed to know about, had happened over the weekend during a paranormal investigation. And I sat back and I thought, this is what [00:03:00] everyone's schedule is like, right? Just like metaphysical and paranormal discussions.

One right after the other. And then I went, okay, I'm gonna embrace my weird, like my schedule is probably not quite what other people's schedules are. Yeah. But man, I love every minute of it. I was gonna 

Jennifer Taylor: say, if only every day could be like that, like I think that's fantastic. And it's, funny. What did you say?

Oh, about it being fiction and I was thinking, yeah, we like say all the time it's like, you couldn't make this stuff up like this. This is so beyond fiction. The, things that happen and yeah, at some point we need to compile a book of all of this stuff. And yet if we did, people would be like, why is this in the nonfiction section?

Like, clearly this is just a bunch of crazy stuff that somebody came up with and stuck it all together and thought we were actually gonna buy as real. 

Tava Baird: I always heard that one of the ways you know, you're on the right path is when doors keep [00:04:00]opening in front of you and the doors are opening so fast I can't keep up.

I keep just meeting person after person, after person who is like throwing open a door and going, would you like a new Vista? And the bigger this podcast gets and the more people that are reading both my fiction and my non-fiction books and the places that I'm volunteering, it just keeps expanding.

And I think we've both been feeling that lately, especially since the fertile ground gathering I always wanna say back to people, trust me, I am not smart enough to make this stuff up. if you wanna see the stuff I make up, you can read my fiction books, but, you know, suddenly I got a portal with like numbers and stuff like that.

The, I don't know where that, what that was. And even the poison of God stuff from last night. Like, yeah. That little detail, I'm [00:05:00] like, okay, I didn't know to make that up. You know what I'm saying? 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. It's like you, you would have to have the foundations of the things that you discovered after the fact in order to make it up.

So make 

Tava Baird: it up like I know. Okay. So I basically almost failed chemistry in high school. chemistry, I just couldn't pull it together. I remember I had already applied and gotten an early decision at UVA and I had a teacher and I will remember his name was Mr. Lan, because I thought, I'm gonna fail in Mr.

LAN's class. Right. Um, and he was the chemistry teacher, and I think I was eking along with a D minus. And When you get into a college early decision, they tell you you have to maintain your grades. or they could revoke. In retrospect, I'm like, they weren't gonna go back through everybody and see what their current grades were.

Come on, you know? But I didn't know that 'cause I wasn't an adult yet. And I remember being absolutely terrified because no matter what I did, [00:06:00] could not seem to digest chemistry. I used to study with a huge quartz crystal under both of my feet, praying and hoping that somehow or another, this periodic table and the resultant math that went with it would be in my head.

So I stink at chemistry. I have no chemical background. And then last night we learned a bit of information based in chemistry that really changed our perspective on Sam, which was really neat. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. 

Tava Baird: But I, I literally didn't have the education to be able to know that in advance. 

Jennifer Taylor: Right. Yeah, I think that's what's so great about it, is that it's really, it's all just beyond what our minds could conceive of, and that's why it's expanding us.

That's why we're continually being moved forward because it's stuff that's just beyond where we are now and what we could conceive of or make up. So, [00:07:00]

Tava Baird: yeah. And, and for anybody, now that I've alluded to it twice, I might as well just go ahead and say what it was. So Samuel has multiple times referred to himself as the poison of God.

And if you like look up, like if you Google Samuel it says it there, it's in old writings that he's described this way and there's this, story, and I don't know where it comes from, that when people are dying, he stands near them. With this sword that has a different colored tip.

supposedly the tip of this sword has poison on it that he drips into people's mouths and that makes them die.

a lot of the stuff that they say about him I've never seen evidence of he's supposed to be as tall as it takes a man to walk in his lifetime. I would say dude is like six three the most when I lay eyes on him, right? So that would have to be a very small man. there's all these crazy things, but he actually [00:08:00] has referred to himself as the poison of God.

So Jen the other day leaves me a Marco and she's like, what does that mean? And I just never asked him. So yesterday afternoon I was on the way my way back from something and I said, Samuel, what is this poison of God stuff? And he said, what is poison? And I said, well, you know, poison's like a substance that gets introduced into a living organism's body that cause causes illness or death, I guess.

And he said, look it up. And I'm kind of frustrated 'cause I'm like, I freaking know what poison is. I just said it, but I look it up and there's a second definition. It says chemistry. Poison is something that slows the progress of a catalyst. And I can't remember the exact words. I mean, I could look it up again.

And I went, oh. So that's the chemical definition. Sanel often [00:09:00] refers to beings in this world who seem. Bent on destruction and who lack of empathy for their fellow man or for the creatures around them as catalysts. And I never really knew why he used that term before, but from a chemical standpoint, essentially that's what he does.

So, poison of God, he is of the divine right. And he, and through the work that he does on this realm, through us, through encouraging us to reach out towards each other, to lift each other up, to be of service, to give each other hope, his presence is slowing the progress of. The powers that be, that seem bent on destruction, they are unable to do their job because of his quote unquote poison.[00:10:00]

And I read that and went, oh my God. And then it was the fastest I could hit the Marco button after that. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. I was so excited to get that. And I think before we dive further into this, let's, start with a song. Yes. And that will help to give him the platform to, to speak as well. And we'll see where to go from here.

I know I've been learning more about chemistry and catalysts in the last 24 hours than I've,managed to remember or know before. So, I'm excited to get into all the various details of this. And I guess if he has a theme that he would like me to focus on for the song, I'm happy to oblige. 

Tava Baird: He says whatever comes through.

Alright, I can do that. He actu, oh, he actually said, I would love to hear what Michael has to say. Oh. So I guess, whatever. Maybe he's missing [00:11:00] Michael A. Little bit. I don't know. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, I'm excited about this. All right. And then maybe he will tell us what Michael had to say, because mine's gonna come out in a song that's not likely to, be easily translatable for others.

Tava Baird: Let's see. We've, I don't think we've ever done this before. Like it Will he translate something for Michael? This should be interesting or comment on it at least. Yeah. Or who knows? He may just decide to give me a recipe for Peach Pie today. 

Jennifer Taylor: All right. If so, I'm sure you'll have a very good reason and it'll all loop back and maybe we'll be like, that's what, that was about six months from now.

All right. I'm gonna switch mics. [00:12:00] [00:13:00] [00:14:00] [00:15:00] Oh.

Tava Baird: Okay. What we have today is, I think a first Wow. Oh. Samuel is talking directly about [00:16:00] Michael and about the experience of being an archangel, and he does not speak about himself much at all, and when he does talk about Michael, it's usually very brief. It's, Michael's going to send something, something's coming through, Michael's watching.

It would be good if you said this to Michael, like it's it's little tidbits, but. That song. Well, I'll let you talk first. I think you have something to say. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I was gonna say, I want to get have a sense just because I actually felt like a picture was being painted for me. Or like I was drawing something in the air and there was this whole scenein my head and I thought, and if this is totally wrong, I'm just gonna edit it all out.

But I wanted to get a sense, I doubt it's wrong. I wanted to get a sense of, if I had the [00:17:00] gist of what he was saying correctly. Okay. And so I thought I would tell you, 'cause I know you've got it all written down. Mine's all written down here it is. It's all, I've got two pages, 

I had this image, it seemed like, while all the singing and the notes and the sound sounded very bright and happy. It was. I was, I felt like I was initially making a mushroom cloud like that. What I was forming with my hands was like this, this kind of symbol of this cataclysmic horri, like kind of the worst case scenario kind of thing.

Then that I was making like this giant mushroom cloud and then this level line and then, and it was painting like without the addition of forces outside of the earthly 

That's the kind of thing that maybe could happen or, but there was something that basically there was an essence of there's this [00:18:00] sort of as a possibility. And then there's Michael, he was my right hand and he was working from this certain kind of realm of energy, this certain kind of vibration.

And then there was Samuel, which was my left hand and down to my left, and it was like he was working at things from his angle and that both of them were working towards the same end but from their different angles the earth was in the middle and that Michael was like kind of up and diagonally to the right.

And Sam while was down and diagonally to the left. But it's like we're both working towards the same thing. But I have my methods and he has his, and they're both equally as. Important and they're helping to balance above and below and diagonally on either side.

Um, but he definitely had a lot to say about it and I realized, I was like, I probably should have just let him keep going because then you had a lot of writing to do [00:19:00] afterwards. But I was thinking, I don't know, I feel like this is kind of a dissertation that could go on for quite some time. And I didn't know how, how long people were gonna stick with it.

So I was like, okay, I think maybe we need to start kind of summing up. And it was interesting because as we were coming to the summing up, they were coming closer and closer together from their individual perspectives that, that initially were really far, the length of my arms apart and they were coming together closer and closer together.

And then until there was this. I don't know, foundation. So I, I'm really interested to see if it's like, well, that's different, but maybe, you know, I was really interested. It's not different. It's totally not different. 

Tava Baird: I wrote, I am the Poison of God. And as you went back to sing, he said it will be a song of embracing your brother. And this is what he said, I am the [00:20:00] poison of God. And Michael is the judgment. They say we are fearsome, death and the sword.

Two final words, two points of no return. I wish to declare that we feel, we see and we yearn, we were created. Compassionate, um, shaah, compassionate. That is how you know we are divine. A judge and an executioner with no compassion. Our tyrants, when those in power do not do their duty with an open heart, the world and its people fail.

There is nothing but hopelessness and destruction. And so we have our assigned tasks. And we walk mighty paths. But do not mistake us for conquering forces. Um, Shaah. We [00:21:00] feel it all, all of what we must do at times we mourn it. We are not without our struggles. This song, it is an embrace from him, an embrace for her.

He's talking about you, an embrace for you, an embrace for the world. I am Michael. He cries my sword and voice ring true. I am the power of the divine. But see me, I operate in love. Even as I strike, I hear his pain and I will embrace my brother.

Wow. I. Uh, he has never talked about Michael, that I, do you remember him ever doing something like this before? No. 

Jennifer Taylor: No, not at all. I think the closest we have gotten was describing the differences in [00:22:00] them and the way that they're, like Michael beingmore formal in like angelic society that Michael was more, formal and that way, and that Sam Ile was, less conformist in that and Michael was a little bit more like following the rules of Evangelic society and the way that things go.

But I think that was the most we've really gotten in that kind of way. 

Tava Baird: Right. And we had, when you and I and Keith were talking yesterday, there was another indication of him embracing someone that he mentioned then. But it's interesting that today. It's all about Michael, and I don't think he's ever, like he said something before.

You mentioned this to me recently. He said something before about that there were things he had to do that he, did not relish doing,in the role that he's in, the description of we're not without our struggles and we [00:23:00] mourn and that we were put in these positions of great power, but that we were also given compassion.

So the downside of that is if you have somewhat of, in a position of great power, you want them to be operating from a place of compassion, right? Unfortunately, it hurts to be in great power and to have to make decisions and operate from a place of compassion. But it's better for. World. Right? It's better for everyone.

So he's talking about the fact that these, the angels themselves have these struggles and feel this pain, but that they're not just acting, thoughtlessly, that they're not acting without feeling, and that he is in sympathy with the fact that his brother Michael, who has to be the judgment of the divine.

He knows the pain that that must cause Michael. [00:24:00] And even though he has his own pains, he wants to comfort him. It's just a really much more personal view than we often get from him. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, and I'm, I'm so struck too by. The parallel between Michael and Sam Mayel, because in my mind, and I think in the way that at least I'm used to people talking about Archangel Michael and the way that people typically talk about Sam Mayel, who don't necessarily maybe know, Michael is kind of in this revered kind of thing, and that Sam Mayel is more feared kind of idea.

And the I, but I never thought of it as, and I think it's because I don't think of either of them that way, you know? Yeah. It's like I find them both just the epitome of compassion and love and protection and safety and comfort. And so seeing them in that, in some sort of fearful way or as the [00:25:00] previous interpretation of the poison of God, any of that.

Is really hard for me to imagine anyway. But then the idea that Michael's job and Sam Miles's job are very closely paired and that they're having to do similar kinds of work is really fascinating to me. 

Tava Baird: Yeah, Michael is judgment, he carries a weapon, and if you think about that, that seems fearsome, God's judgment is coming, and then Sam Mayel, gets demonized up one side and down the other.

But from his perspective, this is his brother and they have different jobs, um, but that the jobs aren't that different and that they are often seen in ways that they can't control. And continue to do the job. 

Jennifer Taylor: it's interesting. we're diving into the poison of God, and investigating the judgment of God, [00:26:00]because I feel like there's likely just like we had a certain, you know, understanding of like, well, obviously I know what poison is, you know, and then find out there's an alternate definition which completely changes the game.

I feel like there's probably a very similar kind of thing with judgment. we think of judgment as your good or bad, right or wrong, and I'm going to judge you, you know, I feel like there's probably another aspect of that that we are not really seeing into.

people talk about, being judged by God in biblical kinds of things, part of what we are alwaysworking against in a lot of what, Sam Miles's messages are, are about getting away from judgment. Because judgment is a sense of, in our current understanding of the is that that is an or kind of thing.

Yeah. And to some way, you know, it's this, you know, you broke the Yeah. It's like, you're, you're right, you are wrong, you're whatever. And so [00:27:00] it, yeah. I'm sure there's more there to understand, 

Tava Baird: especially if we go at it from the vantage point of we're asking someone to use their judgment, right?

Yeah. That's a different way of looking at the word of you're talking to a person who has experiences, who has knowledge, who is being asked to use their wisdom. To to navigate a path more than being like you broke the commandment, bam.

Michael has, you can feel this incredible compassion that perhaps he is the one who is sent forth in his wisdom to use his judgment in the situation. if you're a judge and you have ceased to see the people who come before you as humans anymore, you are not doing the work you're supposed to do.

On the other hand, when you do see all of them as humans, [00:28:00] and you have to know at times that you must make difficult choices for the greater good, that can wound you. This kind of goes back to the whole thing Samuel said about, everyone asks for blessings, but they don't realize that we need them too.

That, this isn't a hierarchical relationship, that they are divine beings and so are we. And we are capable of giving blessings. This reminded me, there was a ti yesterday when I was talking to you on the phone, Samuel told me to give you the message of tell Michael 

that you still want to work with him. And I remember getting off and thinking, why does an angel need to be reassured of anything? especially Michael. come on, doesn't he just know that? But there, perhaps he does. Perhaps he might not need it, but perhaps he would appreciate it, you know?

we have been talking a lot about free will we operate in our embodied form down here on this plane to do tasks and things that they can't necessarily do. [00:29:00] Here. maybe having that little insurance from the embodied person you're working with to go Yeah, I'm still listening.

you're still a top dog with me. is reassuring to them as they go about their very difficult work. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. before I forget about the judgment thing, we're close family friends with someone who is a judge and I don't know if he's still in practice now, but he was a judge for many, many years.

And I remember dad had told me one of the things that he had said, and that is it stuck with me for, probably 30 years that he was saying that he doesn't believe that anyone should be, chosen to be a judge who wants to be. Like basically if you are out saying, alright, you know, I'm a lawyer, I wanna be a judge.

be really wary of someone who is out for wanting, to be in that position. And that really the best judges [00:30:00] are the ones that come into it reluctantly. they're willing to take the position because they realize how important and valuable it is and how necessary it is, but they are doing it with a sense of reluctance because they don't want to be in a position of deciding someone else's fate and making those kinds of decisions for another human being.

And I thought that is such, an intelligent, a tapped in and, compassionate place of recognizing that. You know, someone who comes up and is like, Hey, I wanna be deciding the fate of all of these other people and have that responsibility.

it's a little concerning and where you want the heart of your judge to be that he's not sitting there because he wants to be having this power over you. He just recognizes that it's a really important and necessary thing. And when you were, talking about that, and Michael, I was thinking, I think that sounds exactly like where Michael and, [00:31:00] Samuel are coming from, and the word discernment really came through 

Discernment as far as judgment. deciding, what is in the highest good and sorting out what must be done for the highest good. I definitely am all the time thanking Michael and being like, I'm so glad you're here.

I'm so profoundly grateful And we probably don't want to knowthe decisions and the things that they have to do it would probably be too much for them to, tell us those things.

But the weight of that sounds like a lot. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. I have to say, if you're gonna get visited by the archangel of death, you definitely would like him to be somebody who sympathizes.my whole perspective on how I see death has changed because of Sam, because it used to be it's this big scary thing and we're not gonna talk about it, and it's gonna creep up on you and smack you over the [00:32:00] head.

And now I've been allowed to see, like he says, it's not a state of being. It's,a door, it's a series of moments that there are things that come after and when my time comes, I already know him,

You know, to have had people and pets and that sort of thing pass on since he's been in my life. And to know that there's someone with compassion that will, that will be there is, an incredible gift. Yeah. So much for our episode on divination that we were gonna do today. 'cause now we're getting other things.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. when you were saying about, when the time comes, I think one of the greatest things that have is that sense of knowing beyond any shadow of a doubt, that there are loving presences that will be there surrounding us through the whole process. as we approach the door, like on both sides of the door [00:33:00] way, like all the way around that.

singing and supporting and helping us do our work through a recent experience with a family member we learned a lot about that. and this is something that I definitely heard and read from a lot of different places, but to have Sam Iel saying The angels are there, they are all surrounding this person, and they are singing and they're helping, helping her to do the work and helping her to sort out the fears and the things that, have plagued her incarnation and help her, figure out whether she's going to transition at this point or whether she wants to stay, for longer in her body.

all of that was really, really moving and really neat too that he kept saying was You know, we as the angels, we are not making that decision. We do not influence, there's that idea of, okay, they've come to take you away and they're taking you away kicking and screaming.

and I'm sure in some [00:34:00] instances the body is just not usable anymore, so there's just not an option. But it seems like in a lot ofinstances, there is some choice on behalf of the person of, or am I going go now? Am I gonna go a little bit later? Do I feel like I have more work to do?

Am I still too afraid? whatever these things are, but that the angels are not there influencing and trying to talk 'em into something. They're just respecting their free will and supporting them in whatever is in their highest good, which I think is really cool. And I.

I think that's one of the, if I do one thing in my lifetime, if people can have a sense of peace about what comes after and how supported they will be in that whole process, it would be the greatest thing there was, I was chaperoning a group of children and there was a young girl and it was an overnight and so we were [00:35:00] preparing for bed and she was starting to think about, having to be sleeping away from her family and was talking about the, kind of routine that she does at night, especially if she's going to be sleeping by herself and not have anyone else in the room with her.

And she was saying that she would start having all these thoughts about what happens, what if I die? What if there's nothing else? What if nothing happens when I die? What if I'm alone? What if there's nobody there? And I was thinking, alright, I don't have any idea what your family spiritual background is.

I don't know really know what to do, , but I have this opportunity and there is this little girl looking at me saying how afraid she is that she will be just alone forever. And I just looked her in the eyes and said, I can absolutely promise you, you will never be alone. There are angels who will take your hand and who will walk you back to [00:36:00] groups of people who love you and will be with you.

You will never be alone. And she just looked at me for a second and then went on and was like, okay. we went back to the everyday sort of ways of being, but I thought, I don't want anybody going through life worrying about that, especially little children.

So, 

Tava Baird: yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think about when we were growing up, and there's all of the tension, like the Cold War, where basically they were like, if a bomb drops, get under your desk, don't continue the thought process that a desk is not going to see, 

Jennifer Taylor: right?

We're just gonna pretend like the desk is gonna take care of a nuclear war. We're gonna 

Tava Baird: put in a drill. I mean, the drill might as well have been, kiss the back of your kneecaps goodbye because that would've been just as effective. there's incredible stress on little children and the idea of death being presented to them very young.

we have covid, we have war, we have all these different things. when we were young, it was there and then the [00:37:00]world wars before that, every culture all the time is this, you're gonna be snuffed out for no reason at a point you can't see coming.

it's very comforting to me after growing up like that to go however I go. Whenever I go,I'm gonna turn and he's gonna be standing there just like he's standing there in my room most days. And he'll say, let's go Michala. And off we go. And the work continues. Yeah. And that's one of the other things that I find really comforting is the work continues.

If I don't finish it here, he's told me that he's been around multiple lifetimes with me. I sometimes am thick as a brick and don't realize he's there the entire time, or on this go-round, it took me to like what age 51 or something to start hearing him. I'm like, isn't there something you can do?

So I start cluing in when I'm like nine, And like I have [00:38:00] all of this time to actually get into the work that I'm supposed to be doing. And just shrugs. that's not how it goes sometimes, you know? But the fact that he keeps coming back and being there, and when I can hear him and I finally like flew in.

He's like, alright kid, let's do the lessons again. We've done these in seven previous lifetimes, but we're gonna start at the beginning. And I think, my God, no wonder you and Michael are suffering like you. It's probably just that, you know? And then I can't even imagine, I'm one person. I know for a fact because people contact me all the time and say they've heard Samuel, they've spoken to him, they've seen him in visions.

I'm not the only one here. So dude, he's having to reeducate all of us over and over and over again. Like I just wanna give him some sort of angelic medal for that. 

Jennifer Taylor: [00:39:00] Yeah. And having the broad view is probably, I guess both a, blessing and a curse in a way. he sees the bigger picture so he can see, farther than we can and understand differently. , but he also sees.

the pain of all the different, people and the potential for harm coming from all the various catalysts. And he sees, the pain of, of humanity and what people are experiencing, which has to be probably a lot to, take in also.

Tava Baird: Yeah. And then there's probably the frustration of, he's banging on my door, bang, bang, bang, bang. Wake up a bunch of hopeless people in your vicinity. I need you to go out there and mobilize them with what I'm saying. Bang, bang, bang. Why aren't you listening? And meanwhile, I'm tripping through life going dirt.

Oh, look at new episode of Severances Out. Don't get excited people. A new episode of Separate I'm. [00:40:00] I'm waiting for season three, just like the rest of you. Wouldn't that be great if I could get like angelic TV ahead of everybody else? But 

Jennifer Taylor: I don't think that's, then you'd never get anything done. But I never get anything.

He's like, I'm not giving you that. 

Tava Baird: I don't know. Considering he calls TV a poison box. Oh no. Now we have a whole different dis, he calls computers and televisions poison boxes. Now we have a new definition for poison. Oh no. Oh, now we're gonna have to rethink 

Jennifer Taylor: that. Or maybe it's the same definition for Poison, but the catalyst is something different because there could be, and maybe it's a different, um.

Definition of catalyst because catalysts, most catalysts, if you look it up, most catalysts are considered to be doing something good. they're facilitating things. They're speeding up our process. They're helping us to digest our food a lot faster.

all the enzymes in our body are catalysts that are essential for our, survival. Yeah. So [00:41:00] maybe the poison, if you like the poison box, it's slowing down the progress.if in this case, the catalyst would be something that's trying to get you to make spiritual progress and heal and that kind of thing.

that poison would be slowing the progress that's supposed to be happening, that's trying to be catalyzed but can't. Maybe it's a matter of not a definition, different definition of poison, but a different definition of catalyst. So in that case, it's the opposite.

Tava Baird: He is literally laughing over here, like watching us go in circles. Wait, what does that now mean for blank? 

Jennifer Taylor: I think I'm guessing he means really our normal definition of poison. Probably. 

Tava Baird: He says, he says, you think too much. Oops. Shallah. 

Jennifer Taylor: I do not doubt that. I think 

Tava Baird: too much. You put these thoughts in here.

Um, you know, [00:42:00] okay. 

Jennifer Taylor: no, I'm getting that 

Tava Baird: little gesture he doessaluting you. Oh God. 

Jennifer Taylor: Let's see. So we were working on breaking down the idea of him as the poison of God. Poison being something that slows the progress, of a catalyst and 

I was looking up, if we're looking at it in the chemistry kind of way. There were a couple things that really struck me and as far as, catalysts that, so a catalyst is something then that brings about a chemical change. And a chemical change is one in which I.

The, like molecules are broken apart and then reform in different combinations in different ways. And so from that point, they are fundamentally a completely different thing than they were 

So nothing is the same afterwards. And a lot of times once that chemical change [00:43:00] happens, it's irreversible. And that's different than like a physical change where like ice melts into water.

But. whether it's ice or whether it's water, it's still H2O, What it mollecularly is, is the same. It's just changing State. State. Yeah. And one of the things that I know you had pointed out, and it was the same thing that I had looked at and I'd made a note of to talk about, was that the catalyst is unchanged by and not consumed in the process of that chemical change.

So the catalyst stays the same no matter what. it causes this massive chemical change but isn't affected by it. Isn't changed by it. So I thought that was interesting, when we start talking about catalysts as the way that Samuel has used the idea of catalyst, of being someone that is essentially a human who has so pinched themselves off from their source, that they're so far down the [00:44:00] spectrum away from their remembering self, that it's as if they're not even really connected anymore to their humanity, to their source, to the source of all.

And they've really ceased to become human and they had become a catalyst, I think is the way that he had described it. Yeah. 

Tava Baird: And then you think about it, you think about a lot of those people. So you think about the tyrant king whose kingdom is falling down around them. All of these people around them are experiencing tumultuous change, yet nothing seems to touch the king.

Right? Yeah. And you look 

Jennifer Taylor: at situations like that and they're like, how is this possible? It's like, how is this one person creating all this chaos? And it's not, it somehow doesn't seem to affect them. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. Like in any way, like they're just able to continue creating endless chaos. Every time it looks like there might be a repercussion, the repercussion goes away.

And that's one of the ways, you know, you have a catalyst is, oh [00:45:00] no, we have a situation here that is gonna continue to fundamentally change the environment around them all the time. How do you counter that? Well, your first instinct would be, well, let's, let's help the catalyst, see the light of day and change.

But now the information we're getting is, that's probably not possible. They are unchanged. What you have to do is look at the destruction left in their wake and try to clear off the field and rebuild with what you have. And that's a much bigger job. That's community organizing there. That's, winning over hearts and minds and turning people away from a feeling of I've gotta protect myself and I'm living in a place of fear and apprehension to let me connect with other people and go out into the world and raise my voice and be of [00:46:00] service.

And that's a big lift. But that's what we are being called to do in cataclysmic times, is to do these things. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And one of the things also about Catalyst and the way that they work is it's like they. Lessen the amount of energy that it would take for a certain kind of chemical change to happen.

And they speed up the amount of time that it takes for something to happen. let's say sometimes the, catalyst and the type of change that's gonna come about, it may be that that same thing was going to happen eventually, that the end result might be the same.

And a lot of times that's the case in, chemical processes with catalyst like, in digestion or something like that. Like eventually. This process would happen. And I think you had mentioned that, it might take a year and a half or something or two years, but with a [00:47:00] catalyst like an enzyme that speeds things up and then it's done a lot faster.

But the interesting thing to me is that when I was looking up about it, you might end up with the same chemical change or the same chemical reaction, but it's done in a different way than it would've been if it had just been left to its own devices.

Like the process and the mechanism by which that shift happens is different when using the catalyst. Yeah. And what I'm about to say Is not chemically going to be an accurate thing. So do all the chemists out there do not take this? I recognize this is not the same thing, but I look at it like this way, let's say a tree falls in the woods and eventually it would break down over a long period of time.

It would be slowly eaten and slowly digested and by all of these different organisms, and it would end up being a part of the earth again versus a tree [00:48:00] falls in the woods and somebody sets fire to it, and it's, there's a chemical reaction, it turns into ash and carbon dioxide and smoke, and that will also go into the earth 

the tree will still become earth and it'll be a lot faster, but it's a much more violent. Ballistic, intense kind of thing. anything that was in that tree is going to get instantly incinerated. And the process is going to be, a much more violent and difficult kind of process, even though it's fast.

Whereas otherwise, things would, things that lived in the tree could work their way out of it. it would feed other life and it would be a slow process in which the environment around it would be able to have the opportunity to get used to this change. everything is adjusting different parts, different, microbes and things start taking over when this one finishes a different one comes in and starts breaking it down.

it's like in the process of compost, there's one set of bacteria that then [00:49:00] gives way to another, that gives way to another, that gives way to another until everything is broken down. And I think of. Some of that in terms of like political systems or things that happen, where, eventually the society, would get to a place where everyone is living in a balanced community where everyone's supported and respected and things.

And maybe that would take, a hundred thousand years to get to it. And then a catalyst, comes in and basically sets fire to stuff. breaks down and destroys all the systems and there's all of this, riots and wars and things like that.

Until everything is just decimated and everybody has to start over and they start over in a new way. No one is the same as they were, it's irrevocable, it cannot be changed and put back. And so it's like that,chemical change there. Yeah. And so you might end up in [00:50:00] the same place, but one is going to be a much more tumultuous and violent kind of transition.

And the other would be a like long, slow, gradual thing. And I'm wondering if that's the catalyst to some extent, that Sam's talking about, like that sort of catalyst and him trying to slow the progress of the catalyst by being the poison of God, He slows that progression would help everyone to adjust and maybe be able to learn more.

And be more prepared so that the eventual,outcome might be the same, but that it can be done in a different way and then a mechanism that's not so, harsh. 

Tava Baird: You know? And it was so funny when you were talking about the burning tree. All I could think was the burning tree also might set fire to all the other trees in the forest.

Like yeah, it could be widespread destruction from choosing that [00:51:00] route. back when I, I worked in the business world. I remember when I was first going in and like I'd be the new manager of an area or something, and my mentors would always say, humans don't change very quickly. They are naturally averse to change.

So even though there might be things that you see that, definitely need to be improved, definitely need to be stopped. You need to alter this and it's obvious to everyone. You cannot change them all in your first week, you will have a rebellion, even if they're for the good. Do not do that because people are so set in their ways, they get comfortable where they are, that you bring in one change and they're like, oh, okay, maybe.

But if you bring in five, they are gonna shut down. And if you think about like our current, social and political situation in the us okay, what happened when [00:52:00] we had a recent election, the new group came in and they flooded the zone and they started changing everything. They could possibly change as quickly as possible, right?

Which meant people reporting on it or covering on it couldn't even keep up. people who were actually in the roles that were affected became overwhelmed. Nobody knew what was going on the right hand, didn't know what the left hand was doing, and that was okay be for the people running the show because that was their goal, just create chaos.

And while everyone is so distracted with the chaos, then you do what you want to do. Right? if you're. Setting fire to a different tree every five minutes. It gets to the point where the people in the forest go, I don't know which tree to put out first. There isn't a time to [00:53:00] think it through.

There isn't a time for a human to adjust. There is no reason going on think about the way people talk about how they're feeling these days. the heat's been turned way up. Okay. That's a catalyst, That everything's moving so fast that they can't process anything.

That as soon as you get one bit of news, here comes another one that you haven't even been able to finish.nobody knows what the hell is going on at any given point. that's the way people feel. And so you have Sam Mayel coming in and he's trying to do the opposite.

He's trying to slow things down. He's trying to encourage us to take deep breaths to breathe, to find our centers to be calm, todisengage from all the hype and the hysteria so that we can then go, alright, the forest is burning. [00:54:00] What's our plan? I saw your eyes get really big and I'm like, she just thought of something.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Something came to me pieces were put together in my mind. one of the things you were saying, people say, it's like the temperature is rising. Like they're feeling that, and that's actually one of the signs of a chemical change is a rise in temperature.

It's like smoke bubbles, a raise in temperature, all these different things. something is different and it can't be, put back. So I thought that was really interesting, temperature thing there. And I'm not entirely sure what this means for anything going forward, but you were talking about how semi is saying, you know, we need to slow it down.

This morning, as soon as I started, and it may have actually even happened before, but as soon as I started the client session right before this, the song, called Slow It Down by [00:55:00] Benson Boone, came into my mind and I started singing that at the beginning of the session. Like out of the blue, it's like this, 

got to slow it down.

There's no need to drown deep and dirty water. 

But that kept coming in my head. I was like, why in the world is that song playing in my head 

But then when you said the slow it down, I was like, oh my gosh. That song was just playing. And then it was started up again after the session. I've been just singing that song in my head. I'm like, oh, my God's.

It's the Poison of God song. It's 

Tava Baird: the Poison of God. Song Samuel's playlist available on Spotify. Um, we literally, we should, we should start a, a Samuel playlist. It would have that and Lenny Kravitz on it. Mm-hmm. I do not know why, but we, I, [00:56:00] there was a time period where, um, the, I won't say it because there's one of the devices in the room and I will activate it and it will start.

Oh, I always just 

Jennifer Taylor: spell it out. I always say the A-L-E-X-A. 

Tava Baird: Yes. That one. Over a course of several days, I would just walk into a room and it would randomly start playing a Lety Kravitz song. Like I hadn't said anything to it. I did not know of that Lety Kravitz song.

It would just start playing it. And after a while I was like, Sam out. And then at one point he was actually sitting in my living room and he had one leg crossed over the other, and he was tapping his foot in time to the Lenny Kravitz song. And I was like, do you like Lenny Kravitz?

So I think our playlist needs to be slow it down and then like American woman, slow it down. American woman don't feel the heat of the catalyst, you know? Yeah. Lots of interesting things on [00:57:00] this. I learned so much just from listening to you talk about it now, I feel like maybe I could go back and pass my final in high school chemistry.

Jennifer Taylor: I was gonna say, it would be great if I could too. The, oh, one other thing that I learned about Catalyst that I thought was really interesting is that it only takes a very tiny amount of a catalyst to have a really large effect, like the, um, an example of like a negative catalyst. So when chlorine gets up into the outer layers of the atmosphere, chlorine is a catalyst that breaks up the ozone.

So ozone is three oxygen molecules stuck together, and when chlorine interacts with it, it actually like, sort of sticks to it. And one of the, oxygens pulls off. So then you have just O2, which is really stable and you have the chlorine molecule with one, oxygen on it. Then it easily drops the oxygen and then goes [00:58:00] right back to its same processes.

so one atom of chlorine can destroy around a million molecules of ozone per second! It Was one of the things that was used as an example of how you just need a tiny amount of a catalyst to, make this huge effect, which I think makes, so much sense.

we've seen that it's like one person can, have such a broadly negative effect, 

Tava Baird: Look at World War ii. I mean, we have, Flore Hitler right there. Right. 

Yeah. Just continuing to be affected. I do have to ask, did you literally learn all of this since I left you a message last night? I actually amount about chemistry right now. 

Jennifer Taylor: I learned a lot of it this morning, actually. Well, some of it, I read about the catalyst being unchanged and not consumed in the process last night and about it lowering 

the amount of energy that was necessary for something to happen and it breaking things apart But then I was reading more about it [00:59:00] this morning when after you left your Marco, I was like, all right, I wanna know more. I wanna be able to understand it, better 

And then I was learning, About all kinds of stuff and about ozone. I was like, now I understand how the ozone is getting depleted oh my gosh, I understand so many more things all of a sudden, I feel like.

Tava Baird: So if Samuel ever does decide to be an incarnated human, he needs to become a science teacher, is what we're saying. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. He's, he's doing wonders for us because chemistry was a big reason why I had stopped my medical and scientific path in college and was like, yeah,I don't think I wanna do chemistry anymore.

it does not agree with my brain. 

Tava Baird: Oh my God, so interesting. Now I'm like, okay. He used that word poison on multiple occasions, but it took me like two years. It took you asking about it before I went. Yeah. What does he mean by that now?how many other things he say all the time [01:00:00] that I just don't look up and I just assume there's something, you know.

Well, I mean, 

Jennifer Taylor: you think it's like, I mean, okay, please. I know what poison is and I think, I remember when in the Marco,you said that his response was like, do you, you're like, I know what this is. Like dare you, dare you. I was like, 

Tava Baird: I'm gonna look it up. I had a fairly good vocabulary score on my SAT.

I need to look up what the word poison is. I've read a lot of murder mysteries. Secondary definition, maybe? Secondary definition. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh man. We knew the chemistry would come back and get 

Tava Baird: us. Oh, I really hope he doesn't say something that has to do with physics soon because I, I was even worse at physics than I was in chemistry.

I mean, yeah. I, I will just have to like, check outta that podcast and be like, Jen will be working on this physics stuff alone, 

Jennifer Taylor: I'm wondering if Sam Mayel has more to tell us in his words [01:01:00] about being the poison of God,

Maybe fill in any gaps that we left, give us more of an understanding now that we know what the he means by catalyst and we know what he means by poison.

Tava Baird: Yeah. Let's see if he, if he wants to share that stuff. I'm getting an eyebrow. would it be too much to ask, ask you to sing a little bit? Yeah. No, 

Jennifer Taylor: no. I'd be happy to. It's the least I can do. I'm asking, the question. Thank you. 

Tava Baird: Thank you so much.

Jennifer Taylor: ​

[01:02:00] [01:03:00] [01:04:00] Oh.

Tava Baird: I have to be honest, I didn't know if he was going to answer this because I was already like this stuff that came through about Michael was so revealing. Yeah. I didn't know if he was just gonna be like, Nope, too much not gonna share anymore.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. 

Tava Baird: So I was really nervous that I was gonna say. You wanna tell me something and he was just gonna go No. Which is his prerogative done that before? Yes, because he's done that before. But he did say something you wish me to tell the story of my soul. Um, Shaah.

That will take more time than you have in this [01:05:00] incarnation, but I will say this, my story is the story of God and cannot be told without that in mind. If you think of the divine collective as a body, you may begin to understand. Each part of the body knows its place, knows its job. From the first moment, the heart beats.

When it is time, the lungs pump air, the eyes see and the hands grasp. I was made as part of that body knowing my place. Knowing my role, a being of many eyes and much sight. A being that travels like one with wings, being that loves with the full love of God. And I exist, um, shaah in the spaces between, I hold, open the doors a bit longer so that others may be [01:06:00] included in the room.

I slow things down enough to hear, I unite, I bridge worlds and I do this so that there can be wise judgment in my wake and the order of natures. And so that thoughts might have enough space to be translated into words. I am the poison of God. Alah. I slow and deviate. I alter your reality. I flow like wine.

And I give all around me a chance to understand without me rooms, crowd, and the work suffers under the den. I am the border, the edge, the last drop of blood, the settling of the soil, and I hear all,

wow. [01:07:00]

Jennifer Taylor: Hey, wow. first of all, thank you Samiah, for being willing to answer that question and to the, you know, best of our ability to understand it. Yes. And I, I have to say, my experience of the song was really beautiful. I don't, gosh, I don't think I could even talk about it without crying. It, it felt like Michael's.

Michael reaching back towards Samuel, to embrace him. Like it was this, the movements and things that I was doing were like turning and just, coming in with open arms and wrapping around him. It felt like this just huge hug in reaching for his brother and like this heartfelt acknowledgement of who he is [01:08:00] and what he does.

like a, a welcoming, and this part seems a little bit confusing to me, but it seemed like it was like an offer of the feeling of being home. That, that he and the word home seemed to be coming out of my mouth. But there was something about it of this offer of almost you would embrace someone that you love so deeply that it's like, it feels like being home.

You know? It's like I, yeah. You know, in the arms of my husband, it's like everything in the world falls away and it just feels like I'm home. And it seemed like that was, like he was offering him that, that feeling like the, I think the reason I'm just crying is the emotion, the, it's like the feeling coming through me from Michael to Samuel feel is just so filled with [01:09:00] love and it, it is just this deep, deep, deep love that's just overwhelming to, to feel flowing, flowing through.

I was really surprised. it makes total sense, but I had no idea what was gonna be coming out. But it was just so clear to me from like the first couple notes. And then I, finished but there was this one little refrain that I kept just wanting to sing over and over.

And it was, like, as long as there's an opportunity, just keep sending. It was like, he wanted to just keep sending that part over and over until, you were done writing. 

Tava Baird: I don't know how long ago it was when Michael first started coming in, what is it, six months or something?

Maybe when we first had that, yeah, probably that, that discussion and. I remember us asking Sam [01:10:00] Ael at one what their relationship was, and he was very quiet about it, and we decided they were like coworkers that like they had common aims, but that they went from different places, but they got the job done.

And I think the thing that's really come through today is that we didn't understand the relationship at all. That there is a very deep respect and love from both sides of them, they understand that they are aspects of a whole and that they are not just their own personalities, 

I almost feel like we're getting a little peak behind the curtain and seeing that they have their own challenges and their own times that they feel isolated or their own times that they have to do their work.

Um, and it might not be work that they relish, but it was what they were created to do. [01:11:00] Um, you know, at that times it's difficult and, you know, you don't think about that. You know, angel shows up in the Bible, tells Mary she's gonna have a baby. They'll always look good. Their hairs looking awesome, and then they're out of there, 

the work is everything to them, but they also do have relationships. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. They have feelings and their own soul experience. And which I know Samuel Mayel had alluded to or said at one point, he still has his own soul journey and that he, and he's still learning and expanding.

Yeah. And growing,from everything too. And I think it's so beautiful. initially, I remember when Michael first came in, I think you had done a bunch of reading and researching or something and they were saying, one of the online kinds of things, the, how Michael and Sam like didn't get along and there was all the stuff about it online.

And I remember being like, really worried. I was like, oh no. Like I love Sam so much. and I love Michael so much, And he was saying, you know, it's like we [01:12:00] have different points of view and perspectives on certain things but you know, we love each other.

I think getting to, to experience and feel some of that today was really, and I'm still on the verge of tears. It is really, really beautiful. 

Tava Baird: You're gonna need a nap after the morning. You've, 

Jennifer Taylor: it is, uh, it has been a lot. 

Tava Baird: so I'm thinking that I should sing again thinking That would be lovely. 

Jennifer Taylor: does he have any requests? LA His last request was a big hit. So does he have any food for thought, for singing? He's 

Tava Baird: taking requests. Samuel, he says, no this time really, whatever you would like to bring through, because he said that at the beginning of the podcast and then he adjusted to Michael.

So 

Jennifer Taylor: I was gonna say, and if he changes his mind, that's okay. I'm flexible. 

Tava Baird: He'd like you to discuss argon and, elements. Oh no. Don't we better not say the word elements because we've already had podcasts on the element. Yeah, [01:13:00] that's gonna be, 

Jennifer Taylor: that's gonna be a whole different thing. 

Tava Baird: I'm gonna end up with a metaphysical periodic table here if we're not careful.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, man, I really, I learned all kinds of stuff this morning. I was learning about palladium and the catalytic converter in your car. I was like, oh my gosh, I know what a catalytic converter does now. 

Tava Baird: Oh 

Jennifer Taylor: my God. I don't, yeah. So it's, it's apparently, and um, I'm sure people are that know a lot better are gonna be like, that's probably not right.

But so there's, the carbon monoxide that's created by the, vehicle. And the catalytic converter takes platinum. And platinum is a catalyst that converts carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide which is less harmful. it They can use palladium, platinum. Or something else rhodium. in there and it basically makes the exhaust from your car not as dangerous as it was. so what comes out then is [01:14:00] carbon dioxide and water.

Yeah. So , the catalytic converter uses a catalyst to render those gases less harmful so that when it comes out of your car as exhaust, it's not so dangerous anymore. 

Tava Baird: That's really cool. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. So, and again, I may have gotten that wrong, but I feel like I was pretty right because I was so excited 'cause I kept reading.

I always wanted to be like the mechanic person who like knew what all the things in the car did and could like totally fix a car or an airplane or any of those things. But yeah, and then I was like, oh, now I can use the word catalytic converter because I know what 

Tava Baird: that does now. Now I have this mental picture of you, like on one of those little wheelie carts rolling out from underneath an Oldsmobile in Dungaries with like oil on your nose going, yeah, I see the problem right down here.

Jennifer Taylor: We need to change out the platinum for a new thing of palladium, because as a catalyst that's going to work better. [01:15:00]

Tava Baird: Oh my God. Watch there. Right now there's some mechanic listening to the podcast going, that's up in the engine, guys. Not underneath.

She wouldn't need to be underneath or something like that. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, I, I'm sure there are plenty of people who, chemists and all sorts of people who are like, oh, please stop talking. You have no understanding of what you're talking, breathing right now. 

Tava Baird: Hey, that's what the podcast is for is little bits of ways.

We, we were feeling for the elephant. Now we're just feeling for the parts of like a, you know, a Subaru Crosstrek 

Jennifer Taylor: and now somebody's gonna be like, those don't have catalytic converters. we don't know. 

Tava Baird: We don't know. 

Jennifer Taylor: All right, so I'm gonna switch mics and sing unless Sam Mile has changed his mind in the meantime.

Tava Baird: Nope. Nope. He's all good. Thank you. 

Jennifer Taylor: [01:16:00] [01:17:00] [01:18:00] [01:19:00] Oh.

Tava Baird: After all the talk of catalysts, that was so settling and lovely. Thank you so much. Yeah. You did that. Yeah, absolutely. I do have, some final words here. And I believe Sam Ael is talking about what we should do when there is a catalyst in our midst. He says, there is someone, someone [01:20:00] right next to you, someone who fears the same things.

You fear someone who feels the same way. You feel someone with a similar story, similar aspirations, similar dreams, someone who also did not sleep well last night. You walk past them every day assuming you know their thoughts by how they present themselves. They look well put together or hard worn when in fact in their souls, each is the opposite.

Stop walking. Sit down, slow down. Your ally has arrived. Invite the uninvited. Organize the disorganized, inspire the lost, bring them in, share your tales. Bond together, and rise.[01:21:00]

Jennifer Taylor: That's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. 

Tava Baird: We did not talk about divination today, which was our big plan. we'll have that on the back burner. That one goes on the tombstone, right? 

Thank you so much for joining us, everybody. We really appreciate you tuning in. We're so excited about how this community is growing, bigger than I could have dreamed. 

And we look forward to, hopefully having you join us again next week. Absolutely.