Part 2 - Integration and New Nature Spirit Guides

In the second part of their conversation from last week, Jenn and Tava share a powerful poem, 'WILD' by Jennifer Jurlando, that speaks to the wildness and resilience within us - including the need to integrate both our pain and our joy. The hosts discuss a woman's brave journey of normalizing the post-mastectomy body and how we can use our pain and traumas as fuel for change, emphasizing the importance of integration over just moving on.  Things lighten up as listeners learn of Jenn's new spirit teacher in the form of a small nature spirit figurine with a big energy!  The discussion includes the very interesting way she came to be with Jenn, and her influence in her life since. This mighty nature spirit lends her voice and grounding energies to the closing song.

00:00 Introduction and Musical Prelude
05:09 Poetry Reading: 'WILD' by Jennifer Jurlando
08:45 Empowerment and Body Positivity
11:44 Personal Stories of Healing and Connection
15:29 Mystical Musings and Spiritual Integration
24:09 The Power of Sacred Objects
31:20 A Wave of Energy
32:23 Meeting the Teacher
32:54 The Creation Process
34:27 Crone's Presence
34:41 Power of Story
35:02 Crone's Commanding Energy
37:38 Singing with Crone
47:24 Inversion and Birth
50:55 Channeling Wisdom
52:48 Concluding Thoughts

Resources Mentioned:

Poem by Jennifer Jurlando - Wild

https://www.patreon.com/posts/141765898?utm_campaign=postshare_creator

Intro Song - Reset and Reconnect

www.Amnivara.com/recordings (scroll down to find it free streaming)

Facebook Post of woman after double Mastectomy

Nature Spirit Figures:

https://www.wildergrove.com/product-page/nature-spirits

Custom Nature Spirits :

https://www.wildergrove.com/product-page/custom-nature-spirits

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Tava Baird: tavabaird.com or https://darkflowerbooks.etsy.com.

Jennifer Taylor: Willow Ridge Reiki and Healing Arts https://www.willowridgereiki.com/

Transcript

S3 Ep5 Part 2 Integration and New Nature Spirit Guides

Jennifer Taylor: [00:00:00] Thank you so much for joining us for part two of this conversation of mystical musings. so to begin the podcast, I wanted to begin with a song as we usually do only at this point in the conversation. There hadn't been any singing. So instead I decided to insert something that, my husband Keith and I had.

Recorded previously, and we have streaming for free on the website called Reset and Reconnect I thought would be a good match for today getting everybody in just the right place to continue the conversation and really be able to listen to the messages that are coming through.

Um, I will tell you, if you are driving, you might want to just sort of. Skip through about three minutes and rejoin the conversation because it is pretty powerful. So I don't want anyone not being able to focus on what they need to do while they're driving. So [00:01:00] immediately after the song, we will just go right back into the conversation.

If you haven't listened to last week's podcast, I highly recommend that you listen to that first, because otherwise a lot of this isn't gonna make very much sense. 

I hope you really enjoy the music that will start us out today. 

and I will have a link to that in the show notes if anybody wants to be able to listen to it again later.

So I hope that you enjoy and also have fun with the rest of the podcast. Things get, uh, really fun and silly even though we start out talking about some heavy stuff. it ends with lots of laughter. So stick with us and have fun. 

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Tava Baird: since we're talking about poets and I'm doing my darnedest to convince her to come on this podcast, we have a mutual friend who was a very talented poet named Jennifer Jurlando, So she has a poem called WILD that I think is extremely appropriate for the topic that we are talking about.

And we are lucky enough today to actually have a recording of her reading it. Um, and uh, anyway, here it is. Enjoy.

Wild. We are made of dreams and matter. We form to the music of our mother's heartbeat, surrounded by whispers of the secrets of the universe. A physical body slowly stitched [00:06:00] to our soul. We arrive made of flesh and water, met by a life with lungs full of air cut from our source and still connected. We look into the eyes around us.

Speaker: Why wouldn't we? It's what we've come for. We look into their souls and hearts. They recognize us and they weep. We have launched from everything to here. We are vast, full of passion, curious. We move and we strive to share what we know, all that we brought with us. We see magic. We stop to feel, to honor our holy, to experience awe, to catch raindrops, to feel the texture of both sides of a leaf, to listen to moving water, to appreciate the dancing wind on our cheeks and our hair, to gaze at the shape of a cloud without ever making it understandable here.

Our savoring of all that is, is a burden. It delays the carpool, makes a [00:07:00] racket at restaurants. It is not sensible, it is not practical. It does not fit on a college application. Does not fill the 5, 2 9, or the 401k does not earn high marks. It is unwielding. Awkward, embarrassing, inappropriate, having been corralled.

Harnessed, having been broken of our wildness, having learned to be quiet, considerate, polite, ladylike, humble, modest, godly, having been punished, polished, formed, trained. We save the wild, our original hope and light for dreams. We let her whisper to our hearts, but we dare not speak of her. We are good. We are easy, we are manageable, and then we are broken by a loss, by a death, by some pain.

That makes [00:08:00] it clear that good and easy and manageable have not been enough. That good and easy and manageable have not prepared us for all that is bigger, for all that refuses to be contained and wild arrives. Winds swept and unconcerned with manners hand in hand with her sister's hope, magic, and curiosity.

And they sing us to sleep. They fortify our dreams with connection and they shine their torches on feral pain, crouching in a dark corner, and they welcome pain into the circle, into our wholeness, and we will not go back.

Tava Baird: This feeling of wildness. This sentiment also reminds me of something I saw on social media recently, and I don't know how it came up in my feed, but I'm really glad that it did. I am actually gonna go back and see if I can find it.but [00:09:00] I don't have a lot of hope that I can. I am not familiar with the terms for different types of mastectomies.

so I'm probably gonna fumble here a little bit. So the video was from this woman and she had a camera on her and she was topless and she had had a double mastectomy.

And so there's no nipples, she's just flat, but with these two scars running down her chest. And she said, I'm here to help normalize bodies that have been through what mine has been through. she was reading, I think it might have actually come up at the bottom of the screen too.

Messages she'd gotten from people who had seen her on social media and they were saying things like, you're a woman, you should cover up. And she said, what am I covering? I have literally less to see than a topless man right now. I am [00:10:00] flat, I have no nipples. What am I covering up? And it was just this avalanche of comments of people telling her, I don't want to see that.

And she's like, then scroll on. You are not my intended audience. I am here for people who are about to undergo this procedure just so they can see someone who is happy and healthy integrating this like into her life. And I just, I mean, I, my heart just went, oh my God, I love you so much. And I'm like, I think I hit repost like as fast as I've ever hit anything to repost.

She had been on a journey most people cannot fathom, and yet they were taking the time to write to her and telling her she should cover up because she was a woman, and even [00:11:00] asking her if she was still a woman because she didn't have breasts. Wow. Yes. Absolutely insane. And so what she was doing was an incredibly, she had been through a lot.

She had the scars. She was never going to be able to erase what happened, the, what did she do? We integrated it. She turned a camera on herself. She said, I am going to get on the biggest social media platform in the world, and I am going to say you can survive this. Look. I did. 

Jennifer Taylor: That is so amazing and so brave.

I remember my, um, my grandmother had breast cancer and had a mastectomy on one side and then, um, eventually died of it 'cause it came back as liver cancer. But, um, I remember [00:12:00] she needed to show me like she needed someone to witness what was there, what it was like now. And I don't think she had anybody that she felt comfortable with.

but I remember I guess I was in college. Really important to her to have me just see like, look, this is all that's there now. Like that, there's just nothing. There's nothing there. And expressing that she just, she didn't feel like she was as much of a woman because she, and she still had one breast.

You know, it was like this just, I need you to just see what this looks like. Somebody needs to see and witness, and I think about what it would've done for her to have seen, this incredibly brave, beautiful woman saying, Hey, you can be, beautiful and strong and every much is a bit of a woman [00:13:00] and this can be, what the front of your chest happens to look like.

You know, and how many people benefited from her bravery and her ability to integrate and move forward and turn it into. a blessing for others and something that could help to hold other people up. And I think that's one of the biggest blessings in our bent low under the ice kinds of moments.

by going through those things, we have not only a compassion for others going through either similar things or going through anything where they are bent so low, then we also have the fact that we know that we stood back up and you know, the fact that we were bent low, it, it's always gonna be there, but the compassion that it inspires and the ability to identify with and understand someone else, and to see someone else in their pain [00:14:00] is something that I don't think you can come by any other way.

And if we all went back and erased those things. Would we be able to connect in the same way or, you know, so many times I think, you know, the things that we go through, a lot of the things that are the things that bent me so low they spurred me to be doing what I am now and to have this never ending push to find the thing that would make the difference.

And one of them ended up being the spirit release and the holy fire stuff. And without that continual push to search for spiritual answers and other things that were happening and understanding, I wouldn't be where I am now. And I think so many people have taken, just like that woman, have taken something that was really, really hard and turned it into a way to prop up [00:15:00] others going through similar things.

And yeah, I think That's that integration, you know, how we can integrate it and find almost like alchemizing it, you know, we're taking it and we're using it as fuel to make, to find another place for ourselves to grow and expand or as fuel to help to support others and to help hold them through these things.

Tava Baird: This reminds me of something that happened this weekend. Um, so I'm sure those of you listening know I have a, it's a non-life threatening heart condition, but if I don't sleep well and I get exposed, I get dehydrated. my heart starts to race and it's not life-threatening. It's just. Real uncomfortable and I have difficulty focusing and basically need to take medicine and 

lay down. So, we were on our way. A whole group of us, [00:16:00] lovely, powerful women who'd gone to dinner together, we're on our way back, and Gente and I are in the backseat of a car and she's squished in the middle and I'm on the right. And the fact that I hadn't slept well in a few days, and the fact that we've been in an un-air conditioned building talking nonstop to people for like eight hours straight, apparently was just a little too much.

And my heart started to race. And I thought, oh, no, I didn't wanna say anything because I was afraid everybody would fuss over me. But I also needed to tell people that if I got punchy and I also needed to tell them that I needed some water to take my medication. So, We're on our way to the closest gas station, to get water.

And I'm sitting in the backseat and Jen first off was like, roll down the window, get some air. And then she started to sing. [00:17:00] And I have had a lot of these episodes over the years. A lot of them, and the older I get, the more stubborn they are about going away. We are now at the point where I know they will not go away unless I have the medication.

And sometimes even if I have the medication, they don't go away until I basically put myself in a refrigerator and go to sleep, right? So we're in this warm car, they don't have anywhere to lie down and go to sleep. They don't yet have the water to take the pills. And Jen is singing to me. And then Samael started to sing to me.

And so I started singing to try to vocalize as best I could, what he was doing. And then Jen's song started to change, and between the two of them, as Samael and Jen were singing together, I felt my heart start to write itself. And it was rough because I was trying to stay [00:18:00] calm, but at the same point I was like, oh my God, this is fixing, like, I haven't taken the drugs yet.

something is going on here where this is starting to fix things. I'm starting to feel better. And here we are in the backseat of this crowded car at, you know, 10 30 at night, coming back from the pizza place, basically having Mystical Musings podcast crammed into the backseat of a car with Jen channeling song and Samael singing along with her and me trying to use my little feeble voice to, to bring through what he's singing.

And I'm feeling things shift. I'm feeling things move in my body. I'm feeling the rapid rates slow down so that by the time we got the medication, it was almost like an afterthought. Like I took it and went back and laid down and within probably 10 to 15 minutes I was right as rain, and I was amazed by that, [00:19:00] but I also kept thinking about how that moment of what we would call healing wouldn't have happened if Jen and I hadn't been on this journey together over the last several years, if it hadn't been made up of all of the ups and downs of our daily lives being shared, if it hadn't been.

Conversations about how we're butting our heads against certain ideas and overcoming things, and if we hadn't laughed and cried together, that moment of healing wouldn't have happened if I hadn't been brave enough to say to her, there's an angel that sits at the foot of my bed.

I think I'm crazy. I think I might need to go to the hospital. The integration of our two lives and our struggles and journeys brought me a little bit of healing in the back of a crowded car. [00:20:00] And if I had simply not been on this journey, and I would never have been on this journey had I not been seeking because I had previous scars I needed to deal with, then that moment of healing would never have come through then.

Let me tell you, there is nothing more wonderful in this world than sitting in the backseat of a car. Next to Jennifer Taylor, raising your voices together on a dark night. 

Jennifer Taylor: It was really beautiful, and I have to say, getting to sit there and sing with you too was really, really awesome. That was something that we've never done.

We've never sung together. I, I don't s and it was beautiful. I was like, this is really cool. It was wonderful. 

Tava Baird: I feel like at some point we need to, folks, what do you think about a mystical musings day retreat where we all gather around a bonfire and sing with Gente? I'm down for that. 

Jennifer Taylor: I think it sounds fantastic.

Absolutely. We can get together 

Tava Baird: and integrate. Wouldn't that [00:21:00] be lovely? 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. We can sing and move and integrate and help to shore each other up. 

Tava Baird: I know we've mentioned this before on a previous podcast, but it was a long time ago. And I'm gonna mispronounce it just the same as I did. Then there's a Japanese technique, I think it's, I know it's spelled K-I-N-T-S-U-G-I kisuki, and it's when a piece of like an old tea cup or a bowl has broken and instead of simply gluing it back together, they mix gold dust in with the lacquer that they're going to repair it with.

So when the teacup or the bowl is put, when the pieces are put back together, you can see in gold the outline of where it shattered. You can see where it [00:22:00] broke, you can see where it struggled, and that is immortalized in gold and becomes part of the design of the vessel. So I think that's a really nice, 

metaphor for our conversation today. You are the vessel for your divine soul. And rather than try to pretend that the breaks didn't happen, it's time to mix gold dust in with them and let them shine out in gold so that others who have cracks can walk towards you and say, me too.

Jennifer Taylor: That's 

beautiful. And I was, I couldn't help but thinking the little, being that you, well, the little in physical manifestation, [00:23:00] huge in energy in the actual being that has come to be another, friend and ally for me. That I came to be in, care of this past weekend that was made by, Liz actually, that we've had on the, I was gonna say you guys know, 'cause we've had her on the podcast, Liz and Cael, from Wilder Grove.

And she was showing me that there are these places in it where there's this like turquoise, this kind of inlaid in the, in the wood, in the cracks. And she said the cracks were filled with these, this beautiful, it may actually be like crushed turquoise that's in there. And she mentioned something about our cracks being, what lets the light in.

And I was thinking about that and then also thinking, after today, adding in and lets in the sacred darkness as well. And yeah, those places are some, some of my most favorite places on her [00:24:00] on this. This figure Are those places where the cracks have now been filled with something that accents and highlights the beauty of them?

Tava Baird: Yeah. We should probably tell a little bit of the story. 'cause this is, this, people will think this is a hoot. Jen was coming down Saturday morning for the market and the event. But I went down on Friday night and one of the reasons I went down on Friday night was to get together with Liz and Kale from Wilder Grove to work on our ritual planning or Mystic fire.

there are a very few spots left on Mystic Fire. and oh boy, folks, wait till you see the Saturday night ritual. It is gonna rock your world. Um, but I digress. after we'd been planning for a couple of hours, Liz and Kale were gonna drive me back to the hotel where I was staying. And Liz wanted to show me something she's been working on.

And they are [00:25:00] the most gorgeous little figurines, and they're made out of driftwood and stone and feathers. And when you see them, they each have a different spirit in them, a different personality. And these little things are so powerful, they will knock you on your butt. I am not even kidding. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, for real.

They will real knock 

Tava Baird: you over. And he was talking about one of them in particular that as she was assembling it, the little spirit was telling her exactly what it wanted to look like, what it wanted. Its little vessel, its little figurine to look like. And she took it out of the box to show it to me, and its name was Crone.

And as soon as that little entity comes out of the box, Samuel starts for the singer, for the singer, for the singer, a gift for the singer, a gift for the singer. And I went, oh no, Liz, right? Like, [00:26:00] oh no, this is, because I knew right then and there, it didn't matter how much it was it, Samuel had decided it needed to be gifted.

And I knew from his tone of voice, he was not going to stop talking about it. But I did say, I said, Samuel, we don't know what she will like. I am going to offer it as a gift to her. I'm going to send her over to Liz's booth with the credit card and say, pick the one that speaks to you. And so the next morning.

Jenn walks into the booth and he immediately, the singer, the singer, the singer would gift for the singer. And of course we are busy, so this was going on and I'm hearing him just singer, singer, singer, for about an hour and a half to two hours, he's just talking, talking like this had to happen. And so finally I turn to Jen and I say, you really need to go to Liz's booth, because he's driving me bananas.[00:27:00]

But I did not tell her about Crone, about which one had really activated Samael. So I wanted Jen, I mean, for all I knew you were gonna get over there and say, none of these speak to me. I don't know what you're talking about. You're crazy. Right. So she goes over to the other building and comes back all excited with Crone.

Jennifer Taylor: And there are probably 12 of them, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Like there were a good number. 

Tava Baird: Yeah. And I was so relieved when you came back because Samuel just was so happy and he stopped badgering me. Um, but so this little, this little figurine that has this spirit attached, it's so freaking strong. Then put her down in the booth and I would go to like, move a bag when I was bagging somebody's purchase, or I would go to sign a book and I couldn't even get anywhere near her because it was like, that was her space.

Yeah. And 

Jennifer Taylor: even, and I had [00:28:00] her in the box initially because she looks very, very, very fragile. And so it was in a box, packed with packing stuff on top and underneath to keep her safe. And I'm sitting there just holding her in my lap because I was like, this is so, like, I, I have to make sure that nothing happens to her.

And I'm not kidding you. The box started shaking. I was holding it and the box was vibrating in my hands and I was like, oh my gosh. she's like, get me out of this box. And I was sitting there holding it going. I mean, this is a busy market, a table, you know, we are moving all over the place. This isn't safe.

Oh yeah. We 

Tava Baird: were hustling. 

Jennifer Taylor: And she said, I have been around for eons. I am not as fragile as you think. Put me out. I have work to do. And I was like. Okay, so I open the box and I clear off the stuff and I sit her kind of behind this easel that's facing out and yeah, and [00:29:00] every time we would go to sit, like somebody brought it, you know, lunch and we were so grateful when we went and I went to sit like the mints down and every time you would go to sit something down, you would hear her go, no, like not here.

She had like claimed the sacred space, this space in front and around her as sacred and anytime we would, and I mean it was busy and active and we're doing all these things and it was clear as day when we would go to start to put something there by accident. It was like, no, 

Tava Baird: she is hardcore.

And I have to tell you, Jen, there was one I saw the night that she was showing me them, it stuck in my head and then I went back over to get more mystic fire postcards from them later. And it's still there. And I think I might contact Liz and see if she still has it, because there's one called Solstice.

Jennifer Taylor: Oh, and 

Tava Baird: the wood that she is made out of as a whole on one side, [00:30:00] like she's missing a piece or maybe it's a gate. And I can't stop thinking about that little space, about that space. That could be a wounding or it could be a bridge to another place. And I think that little entity is about manifestation of integration.

And so that's what I'm probably gonna do at the end of this podcast. Liz, if you're listening. I think you just made another sale. I was gonna say, by the time 

Jennifer Taylor: she's listening, she will have already made a sale, because I'm absolutely going to get that one for you. So you are not you bought me mine and I allowed you to do it because the Seraphim was so insistent.

I was like, I am not going to even bother to try to offer, but we, this can just be our, you know, happy annual. we had [00:31:00] agreed before I was willing to receive. But yeah, that's, that feels 

very, very, very good to me. So, yeah, Liz is, well then you're gonna get it, like, get a barrage. Like please, please tell me you don't have Solstice telling.

Yeah, I think, think her name is, is Solstice. 

I telling the, these are unbelievable. I had no sense. I thought, I would go over there and I would be like. Oh, this one's kind of, you know, I kind of gravitate towards this, or this is kind of nice. But as I approached the table, there were people standing in front.

And so I was sort of standing back and I had this wave of energy. I had this image of me being hit by a wave of energy and just like being smacked down on the concrete behind me. Wow. And I was like, oh my gosh, I need to like change my physical stance to make sure I am literally not knocked over by it.

And when the person moved, and I told Liz why I was there, and she was like, here you go. And here they were all on these little rows lined up and the [00:32:00] amount of energy coming from them was so strong and palpable. And there were a number that I was like. Yeah, 

Like I could really feel their energy and really feel the presence. But yeah, I got to that one and it was like, 

woo, 

like this, just incredible. And I started crying. I couldn't not cry. Like the, there was such emotion and it was so strong. And I kept hearing teacher, teacher, teacher, and I was like, this is, this is my teacher, like she is here to, to teach me.

And the energy was so strong and so commanding, and as I would even, I was even trying to tell Liz, like, this is the one I'm like, I, I, I just kept crying. there was so much emotion and I was blown away. I was like, there is, I mean, you know, if you were just thinking of it as, as what's physically there, it's like, oh, it's a really cool looking figurine, but.

Um, and I, so I started talking to her about it and she was saying that it starts as just a piece of [00:33:00] wood that calls to her like that she'll find in the woods. And then she continues to work with her relationship with it and build the relationship and listens and listens. And they will tell her, she will come into relationship with the being that is in there, and it will tell her how it wants to be shaped.

And she will learn and, and start to sort of carve away and find, and then adorn it exactly the way. But she said this one had the strongest personality of any that she's had, where it was like absolutely like, no, not right, not right. And when she put the little stone on for its face, you can see a face in it.

Like it, it is clear as day. And she was like, there was no face on that stone. It was just a little pebble. Like a little river pebble that when you she put it on there, she was like, whoa, there it is. There's your face. So, 

oh my God. Yeah. 

I, I highly recommend looking. [00:34:00] Maybe we can have like a link to, I know.

I'm like, we need to where people can access and see the, the other ones that she has. 'cause they are absolutely no doubt in my mind that there are individual nature spirits that are there, that are strong. And Samael was, was telling us that, uh, yeah, her name is the keeper of, Amnivara and the keeper of stones and has this whole thing.

So. 

Tava Baird: Yeah, they're, she, she is Crone. Yes, she is a but there's more. She has more to her. Um, yeah. I'm like, now I'm sitting here going, oh my God, what if we put Solstice and Crone back in a room together? 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh my goodness. While we're doing 

Tava Baird: power of story. I was gonna say 

Jennifer Taylor: for power of story, you'll, 

you couldn't bring that and they can,.

I, I can only imagine They can visits how they bring 

Tava Baird: together. Well, I, yeah. I'm just, we are definitely, I'll reach out to Liz after this and say, can we add a link to it or something, because there may be other people listening [00:35:00] who would love to have.

A literal vessel for a nature spirit sitting on their altar. I mean, the shifts, I, I have to tell you, I'm a little scared of Crone. Like I, like, I just, while we were, 

Jennifer Taylor: I'm, I'm too, there is a level of respect. She's, that she commands 

and it's like, no, this is, and I'm like, like, okay. Oh, and I went to send a picture.

I was thinking I really wanna send a picture of her to my husband and tell 'cause I was, knew I was gonna tell her all about him. And I went to get my phone and she said, I will meet him in person. I'm like, okay, no pictures like. 

Tava Baird: No pictures, please. No pictures. Yeah, I mean, it was really funny. We were very crowded in this little tiny booth and, um, I think she had more space than we did combined because she was just like, whoa.

And so I'd be like, I'd be like, hang on. Oh, I'll be doing this in my lap. I'll be with you in a second. Because I was like, um, Crone is taking space here. Yeah, she absolutely is. 

Jennifer Taylor: And the, and the, the [00:36:00] shift in the energy there. After she, after I brought her over and took her outta the box and she sat there.

I am telling you, I swear she attracted people. Yes. And we were both in constant conversation, like deep conversations, like meaningful conversations with people and helping them with all these different things the whole rest of the day from the Oh my God, yes. Who came in and I, I kept going. Did you feel the shit?

Like, do you see 

the shift that then you were like, oh yeah, 

Tava Baird: went, our conversations went from, hi, how much is the tarot deck? To, I need to tell you everything that has happened to me in the last six months. And not only that, just like people walking in, a lot of people who walked in after her arrival have already reached out to me, like on, on social media or through email or who have like, looked me up and are like, do you have a chance to talk about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or like wanting to [00:37:00] continue interactions and journeys.

So yeah, it was. She's, she is strong stuff. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I definitely have a walk a little bit on eggshells in her presence, and she's just to my left. I keep, I'm thinking, I, I hope I'm, I hope you're 

not gonna be upset with me, but I'm talking about how amazing you are. But now she is around, she's surrounded by the stones that I Yeah.

That she's here to tend and teach me with. So, um, yeah. So she's now surrounded by those amazing stones that I brought back from Vermont and looks very much at home. 

Tava Baird: Yes. She has work to do so. Well, Jen, I think it might be time for a second song that was a lot about integration and healing and, and the myth of recovery.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. And welcoming the darkness and Yeah. Breathing it in and, yeah. So, 

um. [00:38:00] I have a sense of what he may say, but does Samuel have any sort of recommendations or things he would like for the, he thinks for the last song, uh, 

Tava Baird: he said maybe invite Crohn to sing. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh wow. That was not what I was thinking. 

Tava Baird: What were you thinking?

Jennifer Taylor: I was thinking we might need Gabriel. 

Tava Baird: Oh yeah, I was thinking that too. I was like a settling throne might Samael, I don't know. That throne's pretty big deal, hun. 

Jennifer Taylor: Although they're just called an 

Tava Baird: angel hun. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. Although honestly, the stones that she tends bring me Great. grounding and, and presence.

You said she grounds. And so, yeah, it's like the, if she is the keeper of the stones. That's right. He had said that she keeps the stones and that she's here to help, to tend to them, to help them keep up their energy and their connection while they're here. [00:39:00] And so, yeah, if that's what she is doing and those stones, I should probably be less, less, um, intimidated by her and more just in a state of gratitude.

Tava Baird: He says, let her bring us back down from the skies. We've been Okay. Been up here for a couple of hours. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. 

Tava Baird: Coming to earth, coming to stone. 

Jennifer Taylor: Well, I am really excited to see what this is gonna be like. 

Tava Baird: I'm a little nervous. I kind of feel like there's someone else in your house in case you explode. Like is there, is there someone there who can provide medical support?

Jennifer Taylor: I, there are, My parents are in the house, so we will be just fine. But I, I have complete confidence that she is wise and she is connected to the earth and grounded and I have complete confidence [00:40:00] that she will know how to kind of regulate how much she sends and what she sends so that she doesn't blow my circuits wide open.

Tava Baird: Yeah. And uh, he says, Michael stands by sing with her, do not become, because apparently she will Oh, can blow your, yeah. 

Jennifer Taylor: I'm glad he said that because typically the way I do that is I invite them sort of into me and I sing. That way. So I am glad that he mentioned the, yeah, don't do that. Sing along with her.

Not, 

Tava Baird: he says perhaps soon, this is a meeting. So we need to work around, keep Michael around, just to kind of keep things balanced. So if the energy gets too intense, that sword is there to kind of cut it from getting too high. Otherwise, you may find yourself napping for the next three days. 

Jennifer Taylor: Okay, so I am [00:41:00] having Michael here with me, who?

I'm here the second I said that, and I am inviting her to sing with me, and we are singing together and she's bringing her voice into it, with mine and through mine, but not stepping into me to sing. 

Tava Baird: Sounds like that might be a good first. First go round. 

Jennifer Taylor: I'm so glad you said that because that was gonna be like, yep.

Step right on in. 

Tava Baird: Otherwise, my email to Liz will be, hi, Liz. Do you have any pictures of the, nature spirits that we could put out for our listeners? By the way, you'll never be hearing from Jennifer Taylor again because she exploded. Uh, do you have any advice for how to get that Crohn out of the building because the mountain is now half the size.

It was. 

Jennifer Taylor: They'd be like, you might wanna put a warning next 

to 

your things. Do 

not invite them to come into you and sing [00:42:00] on your first go round.

Be fun. We don't want this to be a cautionary tale. 

Tava Baird: Samael's very intrigued right now. and I have to say, I'm right there with him. 

Jennifer Taylor: Oh boy. Okay. Well here we go.

I will have to pee, and I'm afraid that the amount of energy is gonna make me pee myself gonna pee and I'm gonna come back. 

Tava Baird: Okay? I think that definitely needs to be left in the podcast, is that I'm afraid the amount of energy is going to make me pee myself. You know how other podcasts have tote bags?

That's what ours is going to say. I'm afraid the amount of energy is going to make me pee myself. 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah, I tell you, you are, right in here with us now, so I'm gonna go pee first so that I don't have to be concerned about that while I pay attention to everything else. 

Tava Baird: Welcome to mystical musings folks.

Jennifer Taylor: You may wanna have bladder control undies.[00:43:00]

Okay, 

Oh boy.

Tava Baird: listeners, if anybody that you know starts listening to the podcast and says. Where was the moment where they became totally unhinged? It might be this one.

Jennifer Taylor: All right.

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Oh,

[00:46:00] [00:47:00] oh.

Tava Baird: Okay, so for those of you who could not see what I just saw, um, Jen basically turned inside out.

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. 

Tava Baird: You were making a shape with your body on the floor, and I'm like, is she? 

Jennifer Taylor: Yeah. So you know how he talked about, when I invert myself, Samael talks about, that was the inversion. So I was shown to, to get the two big Vermont stone that stand on either side of her.

And so I took them and I thought, yeah, that'll feel good, because that always really helps to ground me. And so I'm singing and as I'm singing, I'm moving with these, stones that are huge, like bigger than the side of my size of my palms. And I'm moving them at the same time. And I could totally, like she was on my left and Michael was on my right, and I could hear him ringing in [00:48:00] my ears on the right and I could kind of feel her energy.

And it was like, there was the lower parts were her, I think. And then those like, oh, those higher parts were him. And I felt like he was sort of balancing things out. And at one point it was like, yep, okay, put your forehead to the ground, which happens to me fairly often. And Samael talks about it as when I invert myself.

So I'm basically put my third eye onto the ground and I'm like, so now I'm gonna have to figure out how to continue singing this on my knees. So my knees are on the ground and I'm bent over with my forehead on the ground and my hands on either side holding these stones. So I'm singing upside down with my behind in the air, my forehead on there and my hands on there.

And then she showed me I had to take my arms out with the stones and put them [00:49:00] together behind my back. 

Tava Baird: So what does that do for your lung capacity while 

Jennifer Taylor: trying to sing it is not helpful. If you're trying to sing, I don't recommend bending yourself over more than in half and being upside down.

Yeah. So I'm like that. And then I'm holding these heavy stones out behind together, behind my lower back, well, with my forehead still on the ground and continuing to sing until I was brought to come up onto my, um. I don't remember if I ended up on my knees. I think I ended up, up like standing kind of upright on my knees and my hands came all the way up then, and that the stones came together above me.

And that was where we ended. Um, but that was really interesting. I was like, can I, am I 

really capable of continuing to sing and the high parts upside down? And with these, and holding these stones where I was just balancing on my head, on my forehead, on the ground, 

Tava Baird: I honestly was shocked you were still making noise of [00:50:00] any kind, 

Jennifer Taylor: because I was too, 

Tava Baird: if that had been me, it just would've been a lot of gasping and groaning that I was, I need a lot 

Jennifer Taylor: of help to do that energetically.

That is not something that I would have said would have been physically possible. So there was, there was a whole lot of help in supporting me and somehow giving me a lung capacity that didn't seem possible in that shape. 

Tava Baird: Says the inversion is a circle, a positioning for birth. 

Jennifer Taylor: Okay. But 

Tava Baird: it's you shifting for something.

Oh yeah. It's like the baby. 

Jennifer Taylor: The baby turns, you know, head first to come out. Yep. Ideally it's come out. 

Tava Baird: Yes, yes. Um, I do have some words that came through during that, which are really interesting. I think. Uh, here we go. Samuel said, Stone, when we fall to earth, [00:51:00] we fear the landing, the impact of pain, the sending out of energies, the seismic shift, bruising, breaking a crush.

There is nothing wrong with that. We wish to avoid injury and preserve ourselves. It is how we are designed, but it cannot be avoided forever. The milk sours. The drink becomes vinegar, the tree falls. Let us not set those times completely aside from our journeys and lives. Let us not strive and completely forget.

Let us understand that the fall can also create that it pushes energy in a new direction, that it makes an equal and opposite reaction can be directed and [00:52:00] used. Grasp that magic and master it. 

Jennifer Taylor: Wow. 

Tava Baird: And that makes me think of that woman on the video showing her scars. Something fell, something broke, something created scars.

And she's grasping the energy reduced from that experience and mastering it.

I will try to find that video and put it in the show notes if you guys would like to see it. It's on Facebook. 

Jennifer Taylor: That would be wonderful. Yeah, I would love to see it as well. Yeah. 

So, wow. Well thank you to all of you for sticking in here with us for another, I'm sure has become two episodes and,

So yeah, I [00:53:00] really, I am still in the channeling place, so I will let Tava go up with some eloquent. 

Tava Baird: So as who wants to 

Jennifer Taylor: bring us together 

Tava Baird: as Jen Untw herself from being a, an energetic gretzel, we just wanna thank all of you for joining us yet again today. We enjoyed meeting so many new listeners, um, this weekend when we were together.

And, uh, until next week, go out there and integrate when you can and know that you are not alone in doing it.