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SINGLES NIGHT IN BARCELONA + THE WHITE LOTUS S3 E5 ANALYSIS
EP #38: Ellen debriefs her first Thursday Dating in person singles night in Barcelona and her day trip to Madrid. Also.... the craziest details in the most recent White Lotus episode!!
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Hey, guys. Welcome back to Reasonably Certain. My name is Ellen. This is episode 38, and I sound annoying. Sorry, I'm also filming this late again. Sorry, guys. I've been really off my game this last month, but I swear I've been sick for, like, a month straight. I just can't catch a break. I'm also, like, breaking out into a sweat right now, even though I don't have my heat on and it's cold outside and I'm still sweating. So. Great. Um, but, yeah, so if I sound annoying, I waited as long as I could this week to try and not sound annoying anymore. Um, but it is Friday evening, and I need to. You know, I can't keep waiting. This was supposed to be out on Wednesday, and I'm filming it Friday night. So I'm gonna be filming this and editing it and being like, chop, chop, we gotta get this up to the people. To my, like, 30 listeners, thank you. Love you all. But, um, anyways, uh, that is why this episode is a bit late, because I sounded and felt terrible this whole week. Uh, yeah, so I was sick with strep, you know, as you may know, as I have told you in previous episodes, and I think I just had a regular cold this week. It didn't really knock me on my ass too bad, but I got super paranoid because I was in Madrid on Saturday to visit my friend Naomi for her birthday. So that was actually really fun. But I have a feeling that I must have picked something up in the streets of Madrid, because on Monday evening, I was starting to get that little, like, hmm, something might be wrong, but I can't tell yet. And then, um, on, like, it was, like, late, late, late. Like, as I was getting ready for bed on Monday, and then Tuesday morning, I was like, ohmm. M. Okay, I think I'm sick. And then, yeah, as Tuesday kept going, I was like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I'm sick. And so, yeah, again, canceled all my plans for the week. I guess, like, the good thing is that I keep getting sick in the beginning of the week, so then it doesn't necessarily ruin my weekend. Uh, but I still think that I'm gonna cancel my weekend plans. I've got a lot of work to do anyways. Like, I desperately need to do, like, a deep cleaning of my apartment, like a spring cleaning session. And I'm backed up on a lot of TikTok drafts that I have to edit, and I needed to just film TikToks, and I need to edit. I did my hair again, and I Still haven't edited that YouTube video. And I wa want toa make, like, an updated weight loss video. Spoiler. I haven't lost any more weight, but I did say I was gonna keep making them, and I haven't made one, so I feel that I should make that video. So I'm just, you know, I've got a pipeline of stuff that's backed up that I really should take care of. So it would probably be in my best interest to stay home, because even if I am feeling pretty good, but I do sound annoying. And I just think if I went into public like this tomorrow and I still sound the same tomorrow, that people might be like, o, you sound kind of gross and sick. You should probably not be near me. So I am, um, very much on the fenceuse. I actually feel a lot better. Uh, but I still sound annoying, so there's that. Anyways, um, but yeah, since I filmed last episode last Tuesday, I actually have quite a bit to update you guys on, right? Yeah. Oh, my God. I just thought I must have already told you in the last episode. But no, I didn't tell you. So this is pretty crazy, guys. This is pretty crazy. Last Thursday, I went to my first singles in real life dating experience. I know, I know. So it's ran by Thursday dating. I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but it's. I think it started in the uk. Um, and the idea is to get off the dating apps and just like, on Thursday nights, they will host an event somewhere, and you sign up and it's like€10, and you just go and mingle. What's not to like? What's not to like? Thursday dating. This is not against you, but. And I will be going to more events. But, guys, I. Okay, so I was all glammed up. I'm like, yes, period. I'm gonna walk in and, like, every man is gonna turn his head and just be like, that's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. Which maybe they did. I don't know. That's not really the point. But that was my vibe going into it as I was like, I'm gonna stunt on these motherfuckers. And anyways, I will admit it did help that I had a group of girlfriends that I was going with, like, my friend Nancy, Elsa, Kristen, and then my friend Nicole met us there as well. So I did have people that I knew going there, uh, which definitely made me feel more comfortable because originally I was just, like, the one that I missed the last time I Got sick with strep. Um, which was almost exactly a month ago. I was gonna go by myself that night. Uh, so I will admit, this time it did help having some people there that I knew were going toa be there. So I went, and we were, like, making content and, like, taking shots and whatever, and it was very fun. The venue was great, the music was great. I have to say, like, in order to make an event like that great, it does take a lot of knowledge and event planning and just knowing the vibes. So I will say, like, kudos, because Thursday dating, obviously, they know what they're doing. They've been doing this for a while. It just only recently know started in Barcelona, but I think it's been in the UK for a while. So this was like, their third or fourth event already. And, um, I have to give kudos because, like, I still had a fun time. Um, like I said, the venue was great, the music was great. Just the general vibes were great, the drinks were great. Everything was great. And, um, there was, like, so many beautiful girls there. I, like, had to go up and compliment all of them on their makeup because, like, specifically, I'm like, clocking makeup, I guess, because I don't know if you're a makeup girl like me. You just know when you're at an event somewhere and you see another makeup girl, you just kind of like're, like, I see you, you see me, we see each other. Like, it's that vibe. So I was like, okay. Anyways, I'm getting too ahead of myself. So I arrive with the girls, we take some shots. We're like, okay. We pull away from the bar after we had taken our shots, and now we just have our drinks, and I'm sitting with the girls, and I was like, okay, I'm not gonna let this just be another night where, like, we're just sitting in our little group of girls and everybody else is just sitting in their little groups, and everybody's too scared to go up to each other. Like, they had a cute card by the bar that was like, you know, it's scary to get off the apps and meet in person. But, like, don't be scared. You look great. Just like, go get them. Go get him, tiger. Like, that was the vibe. But as we were chatting in our little group, I was like, hey. I was, you know, looking around. We were all trying to look without being too weird about it and see if we liked anyone there. We didn't like anyone. I'm just laughing because it's just, like, it's so funny that we get our hopes up just like a little bit because we're like, oh my God, like we're gonna go in person. Like we saw a few clips of, you know, videos from the other events that like, maybe like, the talent looked a little decent. But it was just so funny that we were all like chatting, sipping on our drinks, looking around, being like, you guys see anyone? No. All four of us, mind you, we all have like different tastes in men as well. All four of us were like, no. So I was likekay, love ya. But I'm not just gonna sit here and like, be disappointed that yet again there's no hot men in my vicinity. What I'm gonna do instead is make some friends. So that's what I did. I saw these two girls down the other side of the bar. I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna go say hi. At the very least I can just be like the compliment queen tonight and just like handout compliments. So that's what I was doing. Cause I was like, I just don'I. Don't want to get cynical and angry like that. I'm annoyed that there's no hot men here. Like, I'm just gonna try and make a night out of it. So that's what I did. And they were like two Swedish girls. They were super nice. They were like, oh my God, we love your makeup too. Blahah. You know, the exchange. And then I found these other girls that were towards the front and then I said hi to them for a few minutes and I was like, oh, you guys are. Your makeup is so pretty. I just saw you sitting over here. I had to come and say hi. And they were super nice. They were like, oh my God, we're so nervous. We're so nervous. And I was like, why? Oh my God, I didn't think you guys were nervous at all. I just thought you looked like way too cool to be here. And they were like, no, we're so scared. And I contribute this to Lexapro. I know I talk about Lexapro all the time, but genuinely, I just was walking around and I'm like, hey, hey. I just don't give a fuck because I swear to Godxap Pro gives me a suit of armor that like, yes, of course I'm still very hyper aware of people looking at me and how I look. And like, I do get self conscious, but I just don't let it stop me. You know what I mean? I like just push right through it. Whereas before I Would have been like, oh, oh. Like I can't handle it. Oh, I'm getting overstimulated, which I still do, don't get me wrong. But I'm able to push through it way easier with LexPro. It's like a bulldozer. I'm just like. And I just like plow right through my uncomfortable feelings. So I was just walking up to everyone. Yeah, no one was really on the same wavelength as me though. As far as being like, my energy was pretty high. It was a bit of an atypical night for me. I am still pretty high energy. But I was really feeling like, fuck it, I don't care. I was feeling kind of crazy, kind of silly. Yeah, I really just didn't give a fuck. And I think it's truly because I did not see any guys there that I thought were hot. If I saw even one guy that I thought was hot, I would have been nervous as fuck. But I truly don't care. When I don't think anyone is hot, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck what they think about me. So that's why I was like, hey, like, uh, within two minutes of entering, I was like, this is not my night to find my hot lover. So scratch that off the board. That's not happening. What else can I do with my night? Like path number 1e not happening. So where else can I go with this evening to still make it fun? Because I got dressed up, went all the way into the depths of gothic. H. I'm not just go going toa waste all this makeup and whatever that I spent time doing. So that was kind of my mindset. I think that's why I was kind of just like, fuck it. I already got out here, so I'm just gonna try to make it fun. And then I made friends with the hostess in the front and then I went back and met up with Nancy and the girls and they spotted one guy that they thought was attractive. Which coincidentally, as I was going up to all these girls and asking if they saw any one they liked. Cause as I was complimenting their makeup, I was also like, did you see anyone? And uh, they were all like, no. But then, uh, and then did if they did say someone, I think it's so hilarious that they all had. None of these people knew each other, right? They all said the same guy. And out of maybe it was like, I would say maybe 60, 40, 60 guys. 40 girls out of like the 60 guys there one guy and it was the same guy. For every separate group that they were like, well, if I had to pick someone, I guess that guy's kind of cute. And I was like, it's the same guy and I'm not really into him. He was just like a typical tall white guy, but, like, not really attractive to me per se, But I could understand how other people think he's attracted. And he was like, if I looked at everyone objectively, line them up on a wall, he was objectively, by far the most attractive guy there. So I was like, okay, this is not surprising to me. That's totally fine. So then I go back over to Nancy and them. They were like, hey, do you mind being like our wingan? Like, we really want to go talk to him and his friends. So I was like, okay, cool. Like, I don't think any of them are hot, so count me in, I'll be your wing woman. I don't give a fuck. So I was just like, hey, guys, like, are. Is this your first time in a Thursday dating event? Like, what's going on? What's up? Where are you from? What are your names, whatever. But then like, oh, myd. Crucial mistake, guys. I will be the wing woman all night long, but you've gotta, like, come in behind me hot. Otherwise, if I'm just the one talking, first of all, they're gonna think I'm the only one that's into them. And then if you're just like sitting next to me not saying much, you've got to like, you know, we've got to come in with some energy because we just interrupted their conversation. It might be. It might be a pleasant disruption. But if we just interrupt their, like, uh, there's an art to this, guys. If we interrupt their conversation, no matter how pleasant a disruption, they might be like, hey, some cute girls came up to us, right? But we still interrupted their conversation. So if we interrupt their conversation and we don't bring something, bring a vibe, bring a thought, bring an idea, bring a question, and we just sit there and wait for them to start talking. It just. It's not the vibe. It's not the vibe. So you've really got to, like, bring it. You've got to bring something to the interruption. Otherwise they're going toa be like, okay, anyways, and they're going to go back to what they were talking about because we interrupted them like, mid conversation, as you have to do. You can't. It's a little bit weird sometimes if you kind of hang around and you're hovering and you're Waiting for a, uh, you've just kind of kindta be like, hey, sorry to interrupt you. Like, we just wanted to say hi. Blah, blah, blah, blah. There's an art. So then the two girls come over with me and I guess they didn't discuss this beforehand. They both liked the guy. So then the one that came second started talking to him and then I was like, well, oh, we were here for the, uh. O. This is awkward now. And so, yeah, failed mission. Failed mission. I was like, I can be the wing woman all you want, but you've got to like, you've got to follow up behind me quick because I can't be the only one talking and you just standing there like this. You know what I mean? Like, you've got to bring some energy, some bring some riz, bring some charisma to the conversation. Like, I don't know, you can't just be all like shy and quiet in these situations because, well, t, uh, there's so much nuance. But in this particular situation, they didn't seem like they were on the prowl for girls that muchuse. I think they knew, even though the two friends were not that hot. But I think the guy, like, he's not dumb. He knows he's the best looking guy there, so he wasn't having to work that hard. So if like we're going up to the. Oh God, the hottest guy there, you've gotta make a good impression or he'snna be like. And because if the rules were reversed, I would be the same way. Like some random guys, they might. The level of attractiveness doesn't really matter because I can be convinced pretty easily that a guy is attractive if he's funny and has charisma. So. But if you come to the conversation and interrupt me and make it weird because you don't have much to say, just get out. Just get out. So, you know, you have to see it from your point of view as well. Like if it was me and my friend standing there and a guy and like his friend and he was clearly wingmanning for his friend, but then the friend didn't talk or like they were like, they didn't bring much to it, I would be like, okay, now you can get. Go, go, go. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Like, so I'm excited to go again though. It is such a fascinating social experiment at the very least. So, yeah, did not think literally no one was hot. If anything, the bartender to me was the most attractive guy there and I still wouldn't be that interested. But I was like, honestly, the bartender's kind of hot, but like, nobody else that actually paid to attend the event was very good looking. I don't know. Like, I felt like a maternal feeling to the guys there. Uh, because, well, there is an age limit. It's supposed to be 25 to 40, which I think is a good. That's a good section. Like, I think for a lot of single people who likely don't have kids, I think that's a good, you know, like, age section. However, there was a 23 year old that came up to me and I was like, oh, hey, little buddy. Like, uh, and it's not even necessarily that he was 23. Like, there's plenty of 23 year olds that seem much older than they are or whatever. But he did, he seemed 19. So I was like, oh, hey, little buddy. Like, how'd you get in here? And he was, uh, extremely nervous and, like, kind of wasn't reading social cues that well. So I was like, hey, like, I'm here to just be a social butterfly tonight. Like, I'll talk to you for 10 minutes. That's fine. Like, whatever. Uh, I'm not gonna, like, be a bitch and ignore you. So he was like, super focused on finishing a bingo card. And I was like, hey, like, I'll help you finish your bingo card if you need to. Like, whatever. I don't know. Nobody else is doing the bingo, but if you really want to do it, like, I don't care. I'll help you do the bingo card anyways. I was like, you should be, like, proud of yourself for, like, getting out. Like, it was just really obvious that, like, I'm super comfortable talking to strangers and, like, making conversation. And he was not like, shaking, nervous. Like, it was just so obvious that I was like, uh, just the general vibe of the night was like, if I did talk to a guy was like, good job, little guy. Like, you got out there, like, you crawled out of your mother's basement and, like, saw the sunlight. Like, that was good. I'm sorry. That was the vibe. So I did meet two guys. One was from Honduras, one was from Majorarkca. And I started talking to them, uh, at the bar because they showed up a little bit later. So I didn't see them, you know, my first couple rounds around the bar. And I was like, these guys look kind of funny. So I just like, started talking to them and they were actually pretty fun because they. This is what I appreciate. If a guy even'at a singles event, right? You're. I don't Know, unless you find a chemistry that is just like fireworks and you just really hit it off. The goal is not to, like, schedule a date with someone within 15 minutes of speaking to them. I think that's what a lot of the guys, like, thought it was. Uh, that's the vibe I got, right from my perspective, from my opinion. But I appreciate so much guys that just have some humor and charisma and they're not nervous to speak to people. And not every conversation is, like, a life or death. Like, if she doesn't like me, what if we can schedule a date tomorrow maybe? Whoa, pump the brakes. Okay? I don't even barely remember your name. Like, whoa, whoa. So I felt a lot of the conversations were like. That were like, u. Um. Uh, can we please schedule a date right now? I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? What the fuck? Let's just get to know each other first. Okay? So at least the Honduras guy and the Mayrca guy were, like, funny, nice, chill. They weren't nervous at all. They were just. They were like buddies. Like, I would walk up and be like, oh, my God, thank God you're here. Like, you guys are so chill. I really enjoy talking to you. So we spent the rest of the night with them, and then a couple other guys were, like, kind of in the same group with us. So we met up with the rest of the girls, and then the two guys that I was talking to m. Went to McDonald's and whatever. It was pretty chill. But I was like, oh, my God. Finally, some guys that are not here to exclusively, like, try to set up a date within the next 20 minutes. Thank God. Thank God. So I actually hit it off with them. Great. Not in a romantic way, but in a friendship way. And it was really nice. So I was like, oh, my God. Finally, some guys that are just, like, chill and funny. That's all we can ask for, right? Um, but yeah, so that was. That was. I would say the night was overall positive because at the end of the day, exposure therapy for me. I got to make a few new friends, and we got to go to McDonald's. Like, you know, can't complain. So that was my first Thursday dating experience. I will definitely go again because I still thought the overall vibe was great. And it's nothing like, I have to clarify this so many times. It is nothing against Thursday dating a million percent. Like, I think what they're doing is great, and I really want them to continue because obviously we're all frustrated with the dating apps. Like, obviously. So I was waiting so long for something like this to come along. So I'm, like, very happy about it. I just think it's more like the dating climate. Like, first of all, like, I was saying, guys don't sign up for stuff. And I can't really blame the guys that did sign up. Even though I personally didn't really vibe with the types of guys that were there, I can't fault them for trying, you know what I mean? Like, they were there. They put in the time and effort to, like, go and meet people. Like, I can't hate on that. I respect people that are at least putting their foot out and, like, trying. You know what I mean? So even though they weren't really my type, I can't hate on it, you know what I mean? Like, they were at least trying. So I probably will try another event. And then I did see a few other. What is it? Like, El Hotspot. But I don't really want to flirt in Spanish. I feel like the Hotspot one is, like, more Spanish focused. But look, I could try it. I could try it. And then there was Speed Twist. Maybe I'll try that. I don't know, because, uh, uh, at the very least, like I said, right, it's kind of like a social experiment and, like, exposure therapy for me. Almost like an improv class, you know, I kind of just thrive in that environment where I get to be, like, performing. So really, it's a selfish exploit, or what is it? What do they call it? A selfish, um. Selfish exploit. What am I trying to say? Anyway, you get my point. So overall, it was fun, but was not the outcome I expected. But, hey, whatever, it's fine. Then on Saturday, like I mentioned, I went to Madrid, so I just did, like, a day trip. It's really not bad because, well, if you're gonna take the train and you're a clean freak like me, take the Idio train. Like, R Y O Idio. Because the trains are newer. Like, last time I went on one, it was so new that it had, like, the new car smell. Stunning, beautiful trains. I don't feel gross sitting in the seat because they are clean and new. So if you're gonna take the train, I recommend Ido. And I just took the earliest one or, like, the second earliest one out and the latest one back, and it was like, I arrived
at, like, 10:40am and then I had to leave by, like,
8:25. I'm kind of sad they don't have later trains, though, because I was like, I don't mind taking like an 11pm train and arriving back in Barcelona by like 2am that's fine. I don't, I don't care. But their latest train was 25, so I would have stayed longer if I could. But you know, we were really running the clock to the last minute there and I had to scramble to get. Oh my God. Wait, this just reminded me I still need to follow up with Cabify. Oh my God. Because when I was sitting, we were sitting in a restaurant, like chowing down burgers. Because we were really, like I said, running up the clock as I had to leave for the train station. And since we were in kind of like a smaller neighborhood, we were in Chueeca. And I had to, uh. We didn't want to have to go hail a taxi because we weren't super familiar with which streets would have taxis. So I just ordered a Cabify. And I remember when I went to pay for it, I was drunk though, because, uh, we had like a huge bowl. We each had a huge bowl frozen margarita at a place before that. And then we chugged. I had like a Tequilaanta because they didn't offer margaritas at the burger place. So then we each had like a mixed drink at the burger place. So I was drunk. And then I was chowing down my burger as fast as I could and I went to pay, like half drunk pay for my Cabify. And I remember it was like, oh, payment denied. And I'm like, why? What the hell? And I look and it's connected to someone else's PayPal. And I was like, what? It should just be my Apple Pay. So. Because the default payment was someone's PayPal, so whoever's PayPal that was denied it. And I was like, okay, what? How? And then I just switched to like my Apple Pay and I pay with my card. And then I didn't think anything of it. I was like, hey, whatever, the car is ordered, let's just finish eating and pay. And then I get in the cab and he's like, for Carlo. And I'm like, what? And then I look at my Cabify app and I like, huh? Huh? Well, it does say Carlo. And I show him the app. And I was like, I'm not Carlo, but yeah, I did order this car and it is the right license plate and everything. And he's like, you're going to aotha train station. And I was like, yeah, that's me. And he's like, well, whatever, get in the car. I was like, wait, what the fuck? Who stole my Kvify? Account and I sent like a support email and I just remembered that I need to follow up because I haven't heard back from them. But has that happened to anyone else? Like, someone stole my kbify account. Who is Carlo? What? I don't think they've been using my card or anything. I just think maybe in the back end somehow, I don't know. Somehow someone else's account is on my phone and I'm like, or they stole my account. I don't know. But anyways, I need to follow up on that. Cause what the hell, I also never use Kabify, so maybe it's been like that for months. And I don't even think I remember the last time I used caify. It's been probably over a year. Anyways, so Nai and I had a day. We celebrated her birthday. We had breakfast at Salicioso, which is by Retiro park, and then we just walked around Rttito park all day. It was actually so nice. Like, it was super busy, but it was kind of like, nice to people. Watch. I wish Barcelona had a park like that. I mean, I know that we do have like, Parkiidea. Uh, but it is. It is not even close to the same. Um, but Ratiro park is really nice. And I was like, dang, okay, I do like Madrid a lot, but the weather, I just can't do it. And like, being landlocked in the middle of the country, I just can't do it. But I love the vibes. So loved Retito Park. We just walked literally, like zigzagged all the way through to the other corner. And then we walked through the neighborhoods because she wanted to go to Kncita Film Lab to do their photo booth. And I was like, hell, yeah, I'll do some birthday photo shoot or like, photo booth photos. So we just like meandered our way over to Carmen Seea Film Lab. And I kept stopping in like, these little neighborhood plazas. And I was like, wait, this literally gives such Copenhagen vibes. I know I only went to Copenhagen once and I'm obsessed with it. But I was like, hold on a minute. Like, Barcelona does not have the same look and feel. I don't really know how to compare it. I think Barcelona feels more, I don't know, not grungy. That sounds really bad because it's not like, grungier, but it's more like it's not as like, uniform, if that makes sense. Um, because the plazas we were in in Madrid had the very uniform looking look. Kind of like Copenhagen plazas where like the buildings. I don't know. I'll have to share a few photos that I took just so you guys can understand what I'm talking about. Because the plazas in Barcelona don't look quite the same. And I was really loving the amount of outdoor terraces that they had for eating. Like, Barcelona also has a lot of that. I'm thinking the most I can compare it to is like, as you go along. Rumble Cataluna. There are a lot of terraces, obviously, but it's still not the same because it's like along a street. And I love when it's like in a plaza because there's not so much traffic and like foot traffic next to you. Um, loved the vibes, like all the neighborhoods on like the south end of the city center that like, as you go west from Rtito Park. So then we walked over to Carmen, see the film lab. But each photo, so you get a strip of four photos, right? It's€4 per strip. So each photo is€1. And it's like there was already like, it
reopened at 3:30 and we got there at like 325. It was me and Naomi. And then already six other people came in right behind us. And we were like, whoa, okay, everybody's apparently doing this today. And so we like try to go in the booth. But it's like a film photo lab. It's not like the digital ones you can find in the metro. So it is like a little nicer, I guess. But it's also not at the same time. I prefer the digital oneus. First of all, it doesn't take card. You have to use coins. But no one uses money anymore. Oay. No one uses effective cash. Like, no one has coins and cash on them. Uh, although Madrid, I already noticed just the one day I was there, uses a lot of cash compared to Barcelona. I legitimately have never paid with cash for literally anything in Barcelona except for government paperwork, which is like, weird. You'd think it would be the opposite. But anyway, so Madrid still uses more cash than Barcelona does. And of course that photo booth used coins. And so me and Nami were like, we don't carry cash. What the fuck? So we go up to the attendant and I'm like, hey, can we pay ahead and use coins? Or I don't know, like, is there any way we can still use it? And she's like, yeah, that's fine, just pay. I wanted to do two strips cause I knew the first one was probably gonna turn out like shit. And I was like, we're probably gonna want two strips. So I just paid €8 and then she gave us, like, um,€8 worth of coins to use. So we just paid ahead and then she gave us coins. And it doesn't give you any warning or any, um, viewfinder to see where you are. So you put in the coins and it's like, three, two, one, Ch. And, uh, we were like, whoa. So the first strip looks like shit. We're not even in the photos barely for all four. And I hate that the booths are only really big enough for one person. So everyone wants to take them with a friend, though, right? Or, like a partner. So, I mean, that's, like, the fun of it becausee, like, you get cute black and white photos together, whatever. So me and Nai are both squishing in there, and then we're like, oh, shit, it's already going off. Ah. Meanwhile, there's six other people outside of the booth waiting for us. And then, because it's a film booth, it doesn't print immediately because it's literally creating, like, the film strip in the back. So it takes about four minutes per strip. You can still continue taking photos while they're developing, but it takes four minutes per strip. So then we try this second time because we're like, oh, crap. We knew the first one was going to turn out like shit. Immediately after it started flashing, we were like, oh, okay. Uh, yeah, it turned out like crap. So then we take the second strip and we're like, okay, we think this one might look good. We finally wait, I'm not kidding, like, eight minutes for them both to finally print. And they just didn't look good. They didn't. For all the effort and the eight euros, they didn't even look that good. Like, I get the vision. The composition of the photo itself could be beautiful, but the functionality and the logistics of how it works is, like, you're gonna get a bad photo every time. Because the girls that went in right after us, we were like, oh. Like, just, you know, be careful. It goes really fast. And even they were like, ah. Like, I was like, did they not hear this every time that, like, someone puts the coins in and immediately it starts flashing? It gives you, like, no heads up. And it doesn't let you see where you are in the photo either. So you're like, we thought we had it right on the second time, but then, like, my face was the only one in it, and Naomi's was like, half in, half out. And I'm like, bro, what the fuck? So then we were like, f this we just wasted eight euros. Let's find one of those digital ones in the metro stations because we have it in Barcelona too. I just never go in them because I don't know, I just never have. But we were like, okay, let's just go to like Placeusa de Sol and we'll go in the metro one. So anyways, long story short, we meandered all the way up to like the royal palace. Saw that for a minute, and then we walked over to Paa del Sol and then we went and took our metro photos, which turned out better because it actually gives you a viewfinder and like a better countdown between photos and you can pay with your card. So honestly, Carbon SE film lab. Love ya, girl. But just go to the ones in the metro, it's so much easier. But then, yeah, we went to this random cocktail bar that just did giant bowls of frozen margaritas. So then we chugged down a couple of those and then we went to the hamburger place. And then I had to go into my um, fraud cabify, I don't know. And then I just took the train back and oh my God, guys. Cause I got drunk and I didn't have like that much food except for the burger that I literally scarfed down before I got on the train. I did not realize how drunk I was til I sat down on the train and I was like, whoa, I'm kind of crazy for taking public transportation drunk. Like, crazy. And uh, I almost like, I almost like barfed and shipp my pants on the train was like, it was bad because it's 2 hours and 45 minutes. So I chugged a bunch of alcohol and then scarfed down a burger and then sat on a train for 2 hours and 45 minutes. And I just hate public restrooms. So I was like, noah, no, no, I can make it till I get back to my apartment. Like, I'll be fine. And you know when you like stand up after sitting for a long time and then you're like, oh wait, I do kind of have to pee really bad. And I was like, yeah, but I'm already at Sans train station. I'm only 10 minutes away from my house. Like, it's fine, it's fine. So then I'm on the metro, uh, like from sans on the metro back to my apartment. I have never tried to conceal how much pain I'm in in public in such a long time. I was on the metro, like gripping the bars for dear life. Like, just hold it together. Hold it together. Like, dripping sweat. I'm in so much pain from, like, being drunk and having to take a shit. I'm just like, keep it together, man. Keep it together, man. It was, uh, tragic. So everything was fine, but it was like. It was rough. I felt like I was in limbo. I'm like, there's people around me. I'm in the middle of a public train or like a public metro station. Like, oh, my God, I just need to get back to my apartment. Like, blah, blah, blah. Um, so that was kind of wild. But anyways, so I got back home fine. It was whatever. Then I just had a pretty boring week. Cause I've been sick. So, yeah, that's what I've been up to this week. Um, was supposed to go to a dinner tonight. Obviously, I'm not going. Cause I'm sick. Anyways, not that you guys care. Let's get on to the White Lotus and let's discuss episode five. We start the episode. Guyalk is freaking out over having lost the gun. Duh. Guy talk. What were you doing, girl? He sees Tim on the cameras. He's like, uh, oh, fuck, what do I do now? Then we see Tim and the Ratliffs at dinner. And Piper finally makes her announcement. This is where we get a lot more iconic Victoria lines. But, yeah. Anyways, Piper's like, yeah, you know, I think I'm gonna move here after I graduate. Tim is just like, on another planet. Then Victoria says, honey, you're not from China. And Piper's like, what does that have to do with anything? And then Tim's like, I thought we were here for your thesis. There's no thesis, guys. There's no thesis. We knew it. I mean, I knew it for sure. There's no thesis. She dragged her whole family to Thailand Justa just to check out a meditation center. Then Victoria says, you want to live in Taiwan? And I can't decide if this was a blooper or if she really is, like, just being so obtuse on purpose, like, as if she doesn't know where she's been staying for the past five days at this point or whatever. So we see Guyt talk Snake into the restaurant looking for Tim. Fabian's like, what are you doing? Is something wrong? And Gyaka is like, oh, no, nothing, nothing. And Fabian's like, yeah, I'm not even hating on Fabian so much. You'll understand more of my thoughts later in the episode. But you know, Jury is still out on him. I don't think that he's Great. But I also. I could see him just being, like, exactly as we see him. Just a bit nervous, a bit on edge, but just doing his job as a hotel manager. I think that's kind of, so far, what I've seen from him. Even though I don't really love his vibes from what I've seen from him in his dialogue, in his scenes. He's just trying to be a good manager. So he's like, yeahuse, who's in the booth. We just talked about this this morning. So, yeah, okay, you're here to watch Mooc, who's in the booth, guy talk. We don't want another robbery incident. And I'm like, yeah, really goty talk. You can't just be walking away from your booth. But also, you do need to go get the guns. So do it. But, uh, quickly. But he's just watching Tim and the rat. Lfs eat dinner. And he's not even. I was like, walk up to him, like, just go take it. You're the security guard. Just go take it. What are you waiting for? Ah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, we're back on the boat with all the. What do I want to call them? U, uh, what. What do I want to call them? Not adolescecents. With all the. U, uh, no, that's not the word I'm looking for. Saxon is telling Locughan about confidence, which I think a lot of this episode is about, like, the power dynamics. I think this episode, from what I understand from all the interviews I've seen from the cast and like, people dissecting it on TikTok, is that it's kind of like the meat and potatoes of the season, so to say, like, it contains a lot of the, like, overall themes and metaphors of the season. Uh, and so that's to say, like, this. A lot of the dynamics between Saxon and Laughlin, I think, speak for the season. And then, uh, the obviously. I mean, obviously the conversation between Rick and Frank, and then obviously, like, the dynamic between the girls and the Russians. We'll get to that. So Saxon says, confidence lock. Okay? That's how you get people to do what you want. Because most people don't know what they want. A lot of them, here's a little secret. They just want to be used. Okay, Saxon, maybe to you. And then he's like, no, I'm serious. They don't have the vision. They're just sitting there waiting for someone to come along and tell them what to do. Which I feel like the way he's saying it sounds a bit sinister because it's Saxon. However, the older I get, the more I learn that he's kind of right. As messed up as it is, he does kind of have a point. Like, this is why, like, clueless, overly confident white men get to the top of their careers or their industries. They're not better or smarter than anyone else. They just have delusional amounts of confidence. And, uh, they love telling people what to do. Uh, so you've just got toa be more confident and not necessarily tell people what to do. But a lot of people do are used to being told what to do. So they do kind of just sit around and wait to be told what to do. Honestly, a lot of people do, but that is a whole separate topic because that's how our current society is set up and that's how people are raised and they know no different. So it's not anyone's fault. It's just kind of is. It is a bit true. Okay, um, then Chloe's like, oh, I like the little magician. I thought that was funny. But she's like, I like innocent young guys. Okay, so why are you with Gary then? Gary slash Greg? Yeah, when they see you naked, they shake, blah, blah, blah. Why are you with Gary then? It's like the complete opposite of what you want. And then she says, I just want some attention. Okay, so like, you're clearly not getting that situation from Gary, Greg. So is it really just for the money or like, what? We need more information. Like, why are you two together? What's going on? And then I love. I was just. I really don't want Chelsea to shoot on Rick. I really don't. And I don't think she will because even though, like, we kind of got to the end of, maybe they will hook up, maybe they won't, but I feel like we're still going toa finish that on the next episode. So we still don't really know yet. But Chelsea goes, oh, I could never cheat on Rick. And she's like, I'm a romantic. And then Chloe says, oh, all the models I used to work with that were romantics ended up broke and broken hearted or worse. And then Chelsea's like, what's worse? So clearly that's what they're both most worried about. I mean, aren't we all though? I guess that kind of sucks. Um, and then sa. I was kind of shocked by this. But yeah, Saxon is saying that Laughlin should go for Chloe. And then Saxon's like, I'll go for the other one. Because she's so rude to me. It turns me on. Okay, he clearly has power struggle issues. He loves a good challenge. He says, uh. And then Chelsea keeps saying this. Something really bad's gonna happen. Hey, stop saying that, okay? You're making us all nervous. She's all worried about Rick. She's trying to rescue him, blah, blah, blah. He's like, my child. And chloe's like, he's 50. Let's, uh, all bring us down to earth. He's 50. Then the girls go out to Saxon and Lauguckan, and they're like, what's up? And Saxon's like, oh, just some brotherly love. Hey, we don't need any more that. You got enough. Y'all got enough. Y'all got enough. Y'all got enough. Then we switch to the girls and the Russians out at the club, and they're basically just, like, getting to know each other a bit better. And then Valentin says that they're all from Vladivostok and they've known each other since they were young. And him and Alexei mean when they were in ballet class together. And then Jacqueline's like, oh, yeah. Or Laria and Jacqueline also met when they were in ballet together. And they were like, oh, my God, So we're all dancers. And then Vlad is like, I flip tires and make big ropes or whatever. And Kate's like, uh-huh. Uh huh. So they all go start dancing together. Yeah. Belinda is stopped in the lobby by Fabian, and Greg was asking about her. We knew it. We knew it. But, uh, he confirms it. He says, it appears you have many fans. One of our regulars. Which regulars? Okay. I mean, we knew that he's a regular, but yeah. So he's. He's clearly there all the time, even not when. Like, just this week, you know, because of Chloe and Chelsea. Like, he's clearly there, like, all the time. One of our regulars was just asking me all about you. Belinda's like. And he's like, yeah, wanted to know your name and why you're here. But he certainly seems interested in you. And Blend is like, okay, this is scaring me. And he says, I'll introduce you. So that was scary. But then we see Mooc slaying. Serving face. Serving face, um, looking so good. Then we go back to the Rat Liffs, and Victoria is s. Just, of course, continuing to be worried about Piper, like, dropping out of society and basically giveiving them a bad reputation. That's really all that Victoria is worried about. Then we see the girlfriends and the Russians on the dance Floor, we see this, like, interesting exchange between Jacquen and these three younger girls. When I first watched this, I was like, oh, is she, like, worried that she's gonna get, like, found out because they recognize her from tv? But then other people were saying, no, it's just because she has a weird obsession with being young and being, like, hot. I'm still hot and beautiful, and I'm dancing with these hot guys. And you guys are just over there staring at me like, good, stare at me. Fine, soak it up. I think it could be both also, But I think it is probably more likely just that she has this weird obsession with being young and beautiful, and she sees these girls looking kind of envious at her, and she's eating it up in a way, and showing off that she's dancing with these hot guys. Just very weird. You know what I mean? Um, then we go back to Belinda and Fabian, and Belinda's like, you know what? I gotta tell you something. I know him. You know that guy you told me about? I know him. And Fabian's like, okay, I can't hear you. Speak up. Because she's like, I have something to tellb you. But anyways, so Belinda tells him, like, okay, it's not clear. Like, he was in Italy last year. His wife died. She was murdered. People drowned. People were murdered. Fabian's like, uh, uh-huh. Huh. And she's like, you know Greg? And he's like, gary? And she's like, well, his name is Greg. I saw him at the beach barbecue. Fabian's like, so why are you weried? And she's like, they think he killed his wife. Like, alarm bells. Hello? And Fabian's like, and. And I love that blend is like, I think we should call the police, the Thai police, the Americans, Italy. Maybe we should call all the police. And Phabeian's like, we are not calling the police. And I was thinking about the scene. At first, I was like, oh, maybe like, Fabian is in cahoots with Gary Greg. But then the more I think about it, I'm like, no, because genuinely, from his dialogue and from his facial expressions, like, from his perspective, he knows nothing about this situation. He doesn't know Belinda that well. I'm assuming he doesn't know Greg that well, outside of him just being a regular at the hotel. He sees Belinda all frantic, coming up to him in the middle of the lobby, which she probably should have pulled him aside just to not make a scene. But, yeah, from Fabian's perspective, he's the manager of this extremely High end hotel and he sees like, for the guests that are walking by to see her like frantically whispering at him for like a good few minutes. It'not a great look. And also, yes, maybe there is something, but he needs time to, like, look into it and make a decision. Like, he can't just be completely taking her word for it because who knows, maybe she is off her rocker. He can't just be like, going into it without his own, you know, research. So I'm just thinking, well, from his perspective, he's just trying to be a good manager. Again, I think maybe let's say she sends him the link and he looks into it and maybe he calls the police, we don't know. Or he could be inoots with Gary. I don't know. But just strictly based off of what we've seen from him, I think he's trying to just be a good manager. I don't know, but he has a point. Like, it doesn't, uh. It's not a good look for the other guests to be gossiping about another guest, like in the lobby in front of everyone. So I think that was his main concern is how it will look to the other guests. I don't think that he's trying to shooe Belinda away and disprove her or anything, but he's mostly worried about, like, hey, we can't just be calling the cops on any random guest without thorough research. Also, he's probably right. Like, a lot of rich people in Thailand probably do have pretty colorful pests. That's probably why they're hiding or seeking something in Thailand. And they have a lot of money, but the resort's not going to ask any questions, you know what I mean? So he's like, it's not my job to be FBI over here. I'm just trying to make sure everybody gets along. So I don't think that he's necessarily that terrible at this point. I am still nervous, but honestly, at this point I think he's just trying to be a manager. So then we go back to dinner with the Ratlifs. Of course, again, we just get the same Victoria freaking out about Piper leaving. Tim is on another planet. He says, I'll be right back. He goes to the bathroom to, like, rinse his face and like, fresh it up for a second. Guy talk finally confronts him in the bathroom and I'm like, finally, Guy Talk, get his ass. Get the gun back. And Guy talk, girl, what are you doing? This might be the funniest scene in the whole series. Just because of like, how unserious guy talk is. It's like you are alone in the bathroom with him. Like, apprehend him. Dude, if you need your gun back, like, get your gun back, dude. You are the security guard. And he just goes, I cannot find something. I think you have it. And then Tim's like, I don't know what you're talking about, and just walks right past him. It's like, guy talk. No, no, no, no. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? You're silly. You're silly.
>> Ellen:U. Uh, jeez. Just. I want to support him so bad, but no, he can't even just ask for the gun back and then get it back. Like, he just can't do it. Uh, okay. So then we're back with Chloe, Chelsea, Laughlin, and Saxon. So they're walking in the water on the way to companion, and loughan's like, so what happens at these parties? She's like, well, you know, the vampires come out and everyone gets laid. I don't know. I had to pause on my second watch when I saw that, because I was like, what does she mean by vampires? First of all, everyone gets laid. Okay. Yeah. Any large party that's going on all night, sure, people aren't getting late. But the vampire'part I was like, the vampires come out. What is that? Is that in a reference to something? I don't really know what she means by that. What does she mean by the vampires come out? I don't know. Anyways, and then she's like, and we need to honor the local traditions. So then Saxon and Chelsea are talking and whatever. She's like, oh, you've got issues. And he's like, I can be anything you want me to be. And she's like, how about you just not be weird? So we switch back to the girls and the Russians. Valentine's like, well, you're a very sexy dancer to laie. And Laurie's like, what? And then jaclyline, of course, has to pop her head out. Uh, like, she's really pissing me off this episode. Like, jac 's really annoying. She's like, whoa, he just called you a sexy dancer. It's like, girl, you weren't part of this conversation. Like, but get out. This is just valentine and loie time. And you're just like, he called you a sexy dancer. It sounds just so, like, patronizing. Or like, u, uh, icky. And Valentine's like, I tell the truth. Okay? Valentine. And then they take shots, and they're all cheersing and Jacqueline says something from the movies and they're like, we don't say that. We say Zalubov. It means for love or Z. Z Leuve. And then it sounds like Shia LaBeouf. So they're like, Shia LaBeouf. That was pretty funny. So then they're all like, Shia LaBeouf. Cheers. And then Kate doesn't want her shot. She's like, please, guys, no, I'm done drinking. Someone take it. So then Laurri's like, I'll take it. Someone had to do it. Someone had to do it. Yeah. So at that point in time, we're like, oh, Lourie and Valentine, they're having the hots for each other, but that changes. So then we go back to Fabian leaving the resort for the night and Guy Talk wrapping up his shift. And Fabian stops at the guard booth and he's like, everything okay with you? You seem nervous. And Guy Talk is just staring at him like. Like he truly is just not cutt out to be a security guard. Just in every way. And I love that. I don't know, Fabian is just such an interesting character to me, especially this, uh, episode. But he's like, maybe some post traumatic stress from the injury to your head. I have antacid if your stomach upset. And then he was like, I know I get nervous sometimes and I get digestion issues, so I take antacid. Do you want antacid? I was like, yeah. Cause Fabian, you would be the one to get nervous and need antacid. Same, same. But also Fabian looks like the guy to get nervous and need antacid. Oh, my God. And then I forgot the other guy's name, but the other guard is like, hey, is there anything I. I should know? Guy Talk? And he's like, nothing, nothing. But I wonder if that guard will check the cameras from Guyt Talk's shift. Because I'mnna say if I was PC or the other guard, I would be like, goddamn, we have to pick up the slack for this dude every day because he's just not pulling his weight. So if I was the other guard, I'd be like, nah, let me review the cameras while Guy Talk was on shift. Because I don't trust this guy to do his job right? So I'm just saying if I was the other guy, I would be checking the cameras. So maybe he will see that Guy Talk left the gun out and that Tim took it. Maybe that's my hypothesis. So then. Oh, I forgot to mention, it's just funny that during this whole conversation with Victoria and Piper, that Victoria is quite literally dressed like a monk, and she's just shitting on this idea the entire episode while she's literally dressed like a monk. Um, but the Rat Lipfs are back in their villa after dinner, and Victoria's like, what if it's a cult? Piper? So Charles Manson wrote books. Piper gives her the book. She's like, does he look like Charles Manson to you? And Victoria's like, no, but he doesn't look normal. Meanwhile, they're like, matching. Um, but then she's like, there's sex cults, Piper, Nexm. And all I can think of when I hear of nexm is like, I don't feel however you wantna feel about H3. But you have to admit, when Ethan did the debate with who. I need to pull it up right now because I don't remember his name. Oh, my God. This was from two years ago. Oh, this was from exact. Almost exactly two years ago. What? This was like, peak. Peak. When he had this debate, I was like, oh, we are into it. Like, the debate. The debates Ethan had during this time, it was like Nexiom and then Pearl and then like, a few other people. Just so good. Like, getting people to go on the show having no idea what they're getting in themselves into, and then just getting absolutely shredded apart the whole time is just like Chef's kiss. So I'll play the clip if I can find it. There's like a few clips of the Nexm cult member because they claim that they can cure Tourette's, and Ethan has Tourette's. And I said to myself, I am interested. I do want to talk to Mark. Uh, and so Mar is actually on the phone, and, you know, we'been. We've been setting this up for a couple of weeks. So there he is. Thanks, man, for being here. That's so, so awesome to meet someone like you.
>> Speaker C:That's great. Thank you, uh, so much for having me. I myself and my team, we had been researching different people that are willing ultimately to challenge. Challenge the status quo.
>> Ellen:Right.
>> Speaker C:It was in October of 2017.
>> Ellen:Just to clarify, Steith Rainierz is the leader. I guess I don't know what's the correct term of nexm. And he was. He was convicted for. Geez, was like seven different felonies. Huh. Huh.
>> Speaker C:Yeah. So I'll definitely get to all that. Um, what. He was convicted of many different things, including sex trafficking, forced labor, racketeering.
>> Ellen:Uh, w alth.
>> Speaker C:I believe wire fraud.
>> Ellen:Yeah.
>> Speaker C:Now, although I believe know he's innocent. That's ultimately not why I reached out to you. Anyone that was uh, trying to speak out was basically vilified. Anyone that came out in support of, forget Keith even just uh, came out of support of Nexiom, just you go and sit in chairs and you have conversations with people and that cured your toette.
>> Ellen:That is just that. Just having that.
>> Speaker C:I just want to be clear. Its not.
>> Ellen:Go ahead.
>> Speaker C:Yes, it was through these conversations and through these classes which were. A lot of them were philosophical inquiries. And it was through these classes and these conversations that be M. Tourettes completely mind over body.
>> Ellen:Wow. And so what is it that you tell yourself like, ah, uh, just stop ticking. Like, come on, don't be a pussy or whatever. Yeah.
>> Speaker C:So uh, it's not like that at all. The most simple way that I can describe it is that I've always talked about Tourette's is like there's an itch and there's a scratch.
>> Ellen:Oeah.
>> Speaker C:And the Tourette's is that uncomfortable feeling.
>> Ellen:Mhm.
>> Speaker C:And then the ticking is me scratching that itch. And what I come to understand, and this is for me, is that ultimately I was in a sense had an impulse disorder. That doesn't mean I had a neurological disorder.
>> Ellen:I found this video work or this old video of you I found really compelling from 14 years ago.
>> Speaker C:A day before my 17th birthday is when I really ran into the greatest obstacle I had ever encounter with my Tourette syndrome.
>> Ellen:A uh, St. Louis area teenager who.
>> Speaker C:Says he has Tourette syndrome claims he.
>> Ellen:Was kicked off a Greyhound bus in.
>> Speaker C:Indianapolis because of his disability. Earlier in line, a lady had heard me saying some inappropriate words and she stood up and she said, well, how come he can say this word with that?
>> Ellen:This Clayton High junior who turned 17 tomorrow says he was kicked off the bus and Indian. So you were. Your tick was actually to say the N word, right?
>> Speaker C:Yeah, different times I was saying what would be the worst thing that I could possibly say in a given moment. So you know, if I was around a fat person, I would want to take your fat. If I was around a black person, I would want to take the N word.
>> Ellen:So at the time it was a nightmare. Uh, I just, you know, I'm sorry, man, I just, I don't know if there's anything, you know, they must. Do they have photos of you? Like, like they must have because that was their thing, right? Keith had like black men.
>> Speaker C:There's no photos. I just.
>> Ellen:Yeah, this, this is the video, right? Uh, evidence of historic FBI corruption. This is the one you're talking about. Could we at least. Could we at least. One of the guys is Alan Dershowitz. He represented. He's Epstein's lawyer. Could.
>> Speaker C:Could we play it from the beginning? It two minutes.
>> Ellen:Let's. You know what? I'll do. You know what? Experts versus Keith. It's inescapable that the FBI proactively created fake evidence. They had changed while I was in FBI custody was modified. It was alaltered in 25 years of digital investigations. My Z. Can you turn it down? The amount of technical ability and premeditation to perform this fraud in the case against Mr. Raieri. I'there's no need to fabricate evidence for a guilty man. The fact that they fabricated evidence here and to the degree that they did shocks the conscience.
>> Speaker C:If this alleged FBI mount frames somebody based on manipulation of data.
>> Ellen:That's just unacceptable and American for. And the American legal system delays and waiting to get to the bottom of this. They should take immediate action. And if they can't or they won't. The United States Attorney General should appoint independent prosecutor. If an independent investigation determines this chaming occurred. Okay. Shortly after Mr. Reier's legal team first exposed this corruption, the government retaliated.
>> Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, I know that you were playing the music which was un fortunate in making the jokes. All Ill say is first thank you again for uh, allowing me to come on. I didnt appreciate the way it went. These are serious, serious things that were talking about. Ah, I think thats, um.
>> Ellen:Whats the wrong. What happened?
>> Speaker C:Thank youad.
>> Ellen:Do you want to give a closing statement or anything?
>> Speaker C:No, I think theyre just putting things on the screen.
>> Ellen:Oh, its just. No, that helps people's attention span because it's a little boring, so it's a little dense. So sometimes you put kinetic sand or subway surfer. It makes it easier to listen.
>> Speaker C:Gotcha. Thank you for having me on.
>> Ellen:See this photo of guys of the three ofigos. Did you, uh. I'm with you, by the way. Acab, brother. You don't know how to turn off zoom. You're trying, but you can't get away. Do. How do you get out of this? You trapped?
>> Speaker C:No, there's no trap. Well, again, nice to meet you, Ethan. And uh, yeah, thanks for having me onr.
>> Ellen:I'm sorry to put you all through that. Ultimately, you are the victim. And I hope Rinier'dies in prison. I really do. I really do. But one day you're gonna be free of this and I'll be there to help you. I'M so sorry. This is Keith's fault that you went through this. It really is. And I'm so sorry.
>> Speaker C:Have a good night.
>> Ellen:Have a good night. I actually feel bad for him at the end there. Uh, yeah, it's extremely embarrassing. But to be completely fair, this man walked into like a comet sized chasm of a death trap. And sure enough, this guy thought I was an Andrew Tate defender who loves fucking Keith Rahierz. And also he didn't know I have Tourette's syndrome, which put me in kind of a unique position to talk to him about Tourette'and. Um, that was a very stressful situation. I didn't see him ticking once. Just saying it was so good. So whenipers or when Victoria said that I was just like nixxiom called Tourette's, that's all I think of. And it was so good. And honestly, I recommend watching that episode even if you guys don't watch H3, that specific episode. If you just search like, Ethan Klein Debates Nexiom cult member. So good. So good. Like just watching them get absolutely shredded because they did no research into what podcasts they were calling into beforehand and they thought it was gonna be like a promotion type of thing. It was fully a debate and it was so funny. Anyway, sorry for the side tangeiont. So then Victoria's like, well, Tim is gonna have a talk with him tomorrow. And Tim's like, huh, huh, uh, yeah, sure, I'll do that. And then Victoria's like, I don't even have my lorazepam. And I'm still wondering, why isn't she just asking Tim about it? Because at this point I'm like, is she behind the FBI thing? Or is she really just kind of like that clueless? Like, maybe she is. Because last episode I was thinking like, maybe she's the mastermind behind this whole thing. But now I'm like, I don't know, maybe she really is just on its face value, what we see clueless Lorazepam outw Southern mom. Honestly, that might just be all she is. And we're looking into it way too much. Maybe that's just what it is. So then she says, I'm gonna have to drink myself to sleep, grabs a whole bottle of wine and goes to bed. And then Piper's like, why is she so upset? And Tim's just like, oh, no, Tim did say he was like, oh, I think she's just worried because it's like, you know, something that she does not familiar with. But then he's Like, I was an older boy, you know? Okay, Tim, Lore drop. We didn't know that. And then he just starts singing like he's fully on another planet. I mean, wow. Okay, so then we cut back to Chloe, Chelsea, Saxon, Laughlin. Chloe's like, hey, Coon Bird. And I'm like, wait a minute. I didn't catch this the first time. Cause it's such a quick scene. But I'm thinking she probably got the drugs from Coon Bird. I'm always keeping an eye out for, like, these really obscure side characters that might tie into something later. Or she could just be completely random. But then I'm like, but then why have that quick little introduction? You know what I mean? Like, otherwise, it seems pretty pointless to even include that clip. That's my point of view on it. Anyways. So I'm guessing she gets the drugs from Coon Bird. Is that relevant? I don't know. But then while she's getting the drugs from Coonird, and while Chelsea is calling Rick, Saxon and Laughlin are alone. And Saxon is like, don't get too drunk tonight, man. Like, let them get all messy. And I'm like, e, this is an icky conversation, okay? Because it's like, clearly he's been here before, and he likes to go out, but he doesn't do drugs. And he clearly likes to use confidence to get people to do things, and he prefers to let them get all messy. I'm like, this is feeling kind of rapey. This is feeling kind of rapey. Um, then Laughan just goes, I'm gonna take you down one day. Okay, Maybe that day is today. I don't know. Lachhlin is. He's getting a bit unhinged, and I think he's gonna turn into the real crazy one. I'm starting to feel that he's actually crazy. Then. I don't know. Maybe this is just a normal sibling dynamic. I would quite literally never do this to either of my siblings as adults. Like, Saxon starts, like, kissing the top of Loughlin's head while he's, like, giving him a nougie. I was just like, okay, weird. But al. Right, then, uh, Chloe comes back with the drugs sex, and's like, saxon doesn't do drugs. I am the drug. Whoa. Which. Good for him? I will say, good for him. Um, but then Laughlin just takes one, and Saxon's like, dude, I thought we weren't gonna get messy tonight. And, uh, we can see that Rick saw the call from Chelsea. He does not answer. He's with Frank, and Frank just orders a chamomile tea. We where like, okay, chamomilety. What? Chloe's convincing Chelsea to take the drugs. She's like, we only have one night away from those grumpy old geezers. Come on, like, do the drugs with me. Pee pressure. Let's go. And then Chelsea, I didn't think she was gonna give in, but she's just like, that's true. I'll take one. Okay. What? And then they're all pure pressure, because then now Chloe, Chelsea, and Laughan have all taken the drug. I'm assuming it's like, Molly or something. And then they're all like, do it, do it, do it. Like, trying to get Saxon to do it with them. And he did it. I thought he was really gonna stay strong and be like, no, I told you, I'm not doing it. But then he does it. But then he says, don't take advantage of me. Okay? This is feeling extra sexual assaulty. Like, clearly, that's his thought process is like, oh, because I did a drug, someone might take advantage of me. So I just thought that whole scene was interesting. And then, I know a lot of people were hypothesizing. I'm gonna play the clip here so you can watch it and pause. But a lot of people were hypothesizing also. Wait, the way that Saxon goes like this. I think people are hypothesizing that Saxon might be closeted gay, and they were hypothesizing that Lochlin, like, spit out the drug. But I don't think he did, because when you look it, when he first took it, he, like, swallowed it with a drink. So I'm like, what is he like? Well, he is a magician, though. He is a magician, though. Maybe he did hide it under his tongue or something to make it look like he took it. But then even if it is, like, a little bit of Molly, like, I don't know, they're talking for, like, a good minute. So I don't think you can. I don't think that it would not dissolve in that minute. So that was my thinking, Like, I don't think, like, a minute later that he would still be able to spit it out unless it was, like, literally a pill. So maybe I'm thinking way too deep into it, which I probably am, but people were thinking that it looked like he spit out the pill so that he wasn't actually going toa be fucked up, but he wasnna pretend to be fucked up on drugs. I don't know. You guys tell me what you think? Because based off of that scene, I think he did take it. And he. Maybe. Why did he do that, though? Maybe he did spit it out, but it didn't really look like he was spitting anything out either. Like, maybe he's just, like, not really used to drinking much and he just kind of thought it was gross. I don't know. You guys tell me what you think. Okay. Okay. I don't normally take drugs, so don't. Take advantage of me. Let's go. Okay. Try real hard. Then we go back to Rick and Frank. We find out that Frank has been sober for 10 months. That's why he ordered the tea. And Rick's like, huh, I don't think we've ever hung out sober before. And he just says, m. Rick literally just had to say chamomile tea. I don't think we've ever hung out suburb before. What happened? Just three lines, and then we just get, like, word vomit. Crazy, crazy story from Frank. Leslie Bib was saying that, like, this conversation in particular kind of, like, sums up the whole season, like, as far as, like, themes and things like that go so very, uh, illuminating. So all Rick had to say was, what happened? Frank is just like, wed vomit. So I took the partying thing as far as it could go. Um, he also brought the gun for Rick, and then he's like, I hope you don't have to use that. We don't know. Then it cuts back to the girls and the Russians, and we see the Russian girls come up to the guys and start screaming and yelling at them. I saw a couple girls on TikTok decode this because they didn't include translations for whatever reason. Um, but it's not like there was no, like, secret message in here. It was basically what it looked like. Like, the girls were like, oh, like, I've been calling you a day. Why'haven't you picked up your phone? You didn't pick up your phone because you were here with these bit like, blah, blah, blah. So it was the typical, like, oh, I didn't have my phoneuz I was busy. I just wasn't looking at my phone. Oh, well, I called you all day and you didn't even answer because you were with these bitches. Blah. So that was the extent of the conversation. It was nothing really shocking. It was just a typical, like, I found my boyfriend X out, and I, uh, we're fighting. Whatever. Kate then turns out to be, like, the only sensible one of the episode. And it's interesting and I kind of love how this happens because, like, in the previous episode, we were like, oh, I not really loving her. She's clearly Trump supporter, which we're not forgetting that. However, it is interesting that you can still appreciate that she's the only sensible one in this episode because she's like, I think we should just go. We should just go to sleep. We've had enough fun for the day. Let's just. Nothing good happens after midnight. Like, let's just call it a night. And then Lari, I think we're seeing a dynamic here where Kate's on one side of the spectrum, Jacqueline's on the other side, and Lori is very much in the middle. And it seems like Lari has the healthiest lifestyle and relationship. And I think she's going to come out at the end of the week realizing my life is actually pretty good and I'm pretty happy for it. And I think they're both. Jacqueline and K are each both going to have kind of like a crumbling in a sense, but Lori will be like, you know, even though I've gone through these waves this week with my friends, I'm coming out of it feeling pretty good. So a little bit shocking, but not super shocking. Laie's like, you guys should come back with us to the villa. Like, let's keep the party going. Yeah. And Kate's like, motherfucker. Then we see Belinda and porn shy. Oh, I'm loving this. And she's telling him about Gary Greg. He's like, yeah, I've seen him. I'll keep you safe. Thanks fornj. Then we hear the noise again. Blend is like, oh, my God. I think it's from coming from outside. Oh, my God. And then Pora like, no, I think it's coming from inside over here. He pulls back the dresser slash wardrobe, whatever it is. And it's like a small monitor lizard. So then I'm just thinking, like, in episode one, we did hear Pornch Chai telling Belinda about the monitor lizards. And he's like, oh, don't be scared of them. Like, they'll become your friends. Don't worry. So I'm like, does this have anything to do with that? Like, we're seeing, you know, four episodes later, like, another Belinda porn Chai monitor lizard scene. So I don't know if that has really any significance, but he's, like, laughing and just shushing it out the door to, like, get it out. And I thought it was so funny how much she was like, get it out, get it out. And then she's on all fours on the bed. Like, oh, God. Thank fuck. Okay, same. Um, but then she's all freaked out, understandably, so she's like, please stay. Please stay. And then we cut back to the Ratliffs going to bed. So Victoria and Tim. And of course, Victoria just still, like, she cannot stop talking about it. She's like, what are peoplenna say? They're gonna think we're bad parents. And then Tim's like, I wouldn't worry about that. Like, I just. The tension is building. I know, but I'm like, damn. They're not even gonna say a word to each other. Like, he's not even gonna say a word about the FBI thing. And she's not even gonna. About the Lorazepam. Like, come on, you guys are married with three children, and you can't even ask each other those questions or, like, talk about that? That's crazy. So Victoria's just worried about their reputation and how Piper's gonna, like, ruin their reputation, basically. She doesn't actually care about the fact that Piper wants to go far away or, like, live far away. She's just worried about the look that it will give their family if Piper doesn't actually follow through with her college plans and, uh, goes to a Buddhist temple in Thailand. So that's all she's worried about. Then we cut back to the girls and the Russians, and Valentine and Alexi take their shirts off. Oh. I was like, uh, me. Kate is me. Kate is me. Kate is gagged. And then, of course, I was like, oh, my God. No, no, because of course. No, because of course Jacqueline had to have a fucking special moment. I had to go put on a special outfit in the middle of the night and have, like, a whole walkout and everything. I was like, no, because of course. Yeah, because of course. And then we go back to Chelsea, Chhloe, Loughlin and Saxon, they're on the beach watching the fireworks. Laughlin is getting like, uh. I feel like it's this weird power dynamic thing, right? Like, Loughlin starts like, look, we've never seen this from him before, right? Until this episode that he's, like, rubbing Saxon's back and, like, rubbing his head, and then he lays down and, like, I'm like, I don't know. I would never do this. This is weird. So then we see a flash to Piper, because Piper, while, uh, Tim and Victoria were going to bed, she was in her room meditating. And then as we finish that scene at, uh, the fireworks on the beach, it flashes to Piper's face in her room and to Me, it gives the vibe that she almost had like a premonition or something that she either quote, unquote, kind of like saw them in her mind or whatever. Or like, oh, yeah, because also in this episode, what does Frank says to Rick? Like, see you in the. What does he say? See you in the astral realm or something. So maybe there's something to that because Frank is in Buddhism as well. So maybe Piper, like astral projected and like, saw them on the beach and like, freaked out. I don't know. We just see a flash to her face and it feels very like she saw vision. So then we go back to Frank and Rick and we get this trippy ass conversation that I don't think anyone could have expected. This was clearly like the pinnacle of the episode or whatever. Like the most crazy part of the episode and I would say the most illuminating conversation of this series. Like the cast was saying it is kind of like the metaphor of the series. So this is a very important conversation. But like I said, all Rick had to say was chamomile tea. I don't think we've ever hung out sober. And what happened? And then we just get this whole conversation from Frank. Insert the clip of U, um. Oh, yeah, insert that clip of the Queen of Melrose. So we moved to la. My father gets a job of the Palm restaurant. My uncle Junior works there who is a Jehovah's Witness. Literally, when Frank starts talking, I'm just thinking like, so my father got a job at the Palm restaurant. So Frank says, I moved here because, you know, while I had to leave the States because I always had a thing for Asian girls, you know, oh, I was like a kid in a candy store. And, you know, he had a lot of sex. And so he's like, oh, after about a thousand nights like that, I moved on to other things. He, like, hired a guy that looked like him because he wanted to be the Asian girl. And he was thinking, like, what? Cause she's the opposite of me. Like, what is it like to be one of these Asian girls? And Rick is just like, what the fuck? I think Rick's facial expressions were the best part. But yeah, so he's like, found a guy that looked a lot like me. Rick is just like, what in the fuck? Frank's like, hey, we all have our Achilles heel, man. Rick's like, hey, not me. Not like this. And so then Frank's like, could I be an Asian girl? And Rick's like, right, right. Frank says he's gotten into Buddhism, which is all about, like, metaphors and, like, removing the soul from the self and the spirit and whatever, and, like, the physical and the spiritual. And he's like, being sober is easy, but being celibate, though, that's much harder. Uh, so we get that crazy conversation, and I think a lot of what we're seeing this season is obviously, like, we see in most season or, like, all the seasons with White Lotus is, like, the power dynamics, they're painfully obvious, but this one is specifically, like, with sex and maybe family and, um, yeah, specifically power dynamics between people that you maybe don't even think have a specific power dynamic. So I thought that conversation is gonna be. Well, it is gonna be very important moving forward. So let me go back to the girlfriends and the Russians, and Lari is, like, complaining about being a lawyer and having to pay paimony. And then Valentina and Alexei start laughing at her, and she's like, ha, ha, very funny. And they're like, no, Loie, you need a man to take care of you. Ah. A real man, not an American man. And, like, during all of this, Vlad is just, like, trauma dumping on Kate this whole time. And I don't know if this is important or not, like, but clearly he had a rough childhood, and maybe he killed his cousin. We don't know. Like, he alludes to that his aunt thinks that he killed his cousin. And, like, we don't know. Anyways, so that's what's going on in the pool. And then Kate's like, you know what, guys? I think the night's over. I'm sorry. We're old ladies. And then Jacqueline, out of, like, her deep sleep, is like, we are not. And we're like, okay, Jacqueline, we get it. Meanwhile, they're, like, starting to say their goodbyes. We see Laurie whispering in valum ear, and I'm desperate to know what she said, but I don't think we know what she said. So then Kate, she goes, good luck with your. I just thought that was so funny. And then Alexi's like, you guys are coming to the match tomorrow, right? Like, Muay Thai. And so I guess we can expect that in next episode. So we will have another night of escapades. I don't know. Then again, like, the guys leave and the girls are left at the villa. And Jacqueline again, she's really getting on my nerves this episode. But Jacqueline again is like, lori, you should have hooked up with them. It just feels like, oh, my God, if that was my friend, I'd be like, shut the fuck up, you bitch. Like, we get it. Fuck. Damn. Then we go back to Belinda and porn shy Belinda. She's asked him to stay. He agreed. And then he's like, u, um, should I sleep in this bed or. And she's like, whichever one. Whichever one. Um, you can sleep in this bed or that one. Whatever one. And, um, she's like, this is consent. Do you guys do that here? We just started. And then porn ch'like. I get it, girl. Let's sleep in the same bed. And then they kiss. O happy kicking and giggling. Then we're back on the yacht. So Chelsea is talking to Chloe while Saxon and Laughan are, like, playing in the water. But Chelsea's like, I'm so worried. It's always about his feelings and his moods and his pain. And she's like, yeah, bad things have happened to me. And I'm just realizing now we have, like, all this lore and background about Rick because of his sessions with, um, Amrita, but we have, like, no background on Chelsea. We have literally, like, no information about her other than her and Rick are dating. Like, we don't. We know that she likes astrology. She's kind of into the more, like, metaphysical stuff, but we actually really don't know anything about Chelsea. So I'm like, wait, we need to know more about you. Like, spill the beans, girl. Like, what happened to you? But that's all we get for now. And then Chloe's like, do you think Wick would kill you if you did it? And Chelsea's like, no, I would just feel terrible. Okay, thank God we got that answer out of her. But then Chloe's like, well, Gary might kill me. I honestly think he's capable of it. What do you mean by that, Chloe, Please expand on that. Yeah, but we also know that he's capable of it, right? So that's scary. Then we cut back to Rick and Frank. Rick says, I might need another favor from you. Just a bit of role play. What's, um, up with all this role play business? And Frank says, I owe you one. And I'm kind of thinking, like, what does he owe him for? Like, what did they. What did they do? And what is considered this favor? Ode. Like, I need to know more about that. And then Rick just says, keep tomorrow night open for me. So, hypothetically, in the next episode, we will see Rick, you know, find. Do something with Frank and try to find Jim Hollinger, hypothetically. Then we see Lari. She's already in bed. And we see a little butt scratch. That was super funny. And then I'm Sorry. We cut to Jacquelyline, and she literally looks like she's hunting prey, like she is on the prowl. And then she hooks up, uh, with Valentine. I'm not shocked at all, though. Like, I'm not shocked at all. Also, he left the door open. I noticed someone mentioned that on TikTok, and I was like, okay, that could be important. But also, I feel like, why would. Why am I feeling like there's so many ways to get into the villa? Like, there's probably open windows and stuff. Like, I don't know why I feel like that anybody could just get in if they really wanted to, but people are like, oh, he left the door open. Like, maybe he left it open for the guys to go and rob them. Like, I don't know. We're all still feeling, like, untrustworthy, um, of the rushing guys. And I do kind of feel like they're just playing long con. Like, hey, there's no harm in getting a little in when you can still rob them later. You know what I mean? Like, por no los dose. You know what I mean? So Jacqueline and Valentine hookup. Um, Rick is back in his hotel room. He looks at the gun that Frank brought him. He calls Chelsea this time, but then Chelsea doesn't pick up. So just two ships passing in the night. They missed each other on that. Then we see, you know, the four kids, I'm gonna say, because they all feel very young on the yacht, just all on the drugs. And then Chloe and Chelsea kiss. Then Chloe and Laughan kiss. And then my reaction when I watched this scene, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do it. What it was. What in the fuck? What in the fuck? So, yeah, then Laughlin kisses Saxon, and I'm saying specifically, Laughlin kisses Saxon, because that's kind of what it was, because they were like, kiss each other. Like, I think they were kind of just joking. But then Laughlin does it, and at first, sacks and is, like, going for it, but then he's like, wait, what? What the fuck? Like, that's my brother. And then they just. They both did it. They both did it. I can't. So people were saying this seems more like a sick and twisted power move, like, you know, building off the fact that Loughlin said to Saxon, like, I'm gonna take you down. It's like, is this, like, Laughan's weird, like, long con play of him, like, trying to really f. With Saxon's head? That's kind of the vibe I'm getting a little bit, honestly. Um, but I'm kind of getting the vibe that Laughan is a lot more scary and unhinged than we could ever really expect. So that's. I'm, like, kind of terrified of him now. And then the last scene of the episode, we see Tim writing a suicide note. I started crying during this because I was just like, he could be a terrible man. We don't really know that much yet. But I was just, like, feeling very sad because that is just objectively very sad that he seems like he just loves his family and that he's on vacation, feeling like he's so much trapped in the corner that he'snna kill himself. Which I was just crying because that's just very sad. But, uh, yeah. Then as he was about to pull the trigger, Victoria comes out and she's like, what are you doing out here? You can't sleep? Blah, blah, blah. And he's like, I'm just writing a note of stuff. I need to remember to do whatever. And she's like, you've already succeeded in every way. And then Tim just starts, like, regressing into his child Christian self or something. I don't know. All of a sudden he's like, I feel like he's really regressing. So then he just starts praying and he's like, oh, please, God, tell me what to do. And that's it. That's the episode. So what are we thinking now? I think predictions for next episode? Let's see. Well, obviously, I think that we're gonna see Rick and Frank pull a heist together. I don't really know, uh, what that's going to look like, but, I mean, we can expect that. I'm really interested to see if Chelsea and Loughan actually do hook up, because I kept feeling like the sun was coming up and like, the vibes were. Because, you know, like, as the sun comes up, it's like the vibes go down immediately as the sun comes because it's just like you start being like, oh, it's the next day. M. So I kept feeling like this has got to be ending pretty quick, right? But I don't know, like, they kept saying, like, oh, we're gonna hook up, but I don't know if that's gonna continue into next episode or if they just kind of end the night on, like, the weird brother kiss, because I kind of feel like maybe we should end it there. I wonder if Tim is gonna go to the meditation center or the temple or if they just said that in the conversation. But maybe. I don't think so, though. Actually, I think that probably won't happen. So I don't know. I think Victoria is gonna get more, progressively more unhinged because people were saying, like, hey, the lorazepam withdrawal isn't easy. She's probablyn toa be pretty unhinged for the remainder of the series. And what if she actually finds the gun and then she uses it? So I could see that happening, that Victoria, like, maybe she's totally clueless about the whole FBI thing, and then maybe she goes crazy with the gun. Um, I think Laughlin is going to get progressively crazier. And I think Saxon is maybe. The more I can see it, the more I think he might be closeted gay. I think Piper, like, maybe she can astral project. Maybe she's having, like, premonitions or something. Like, I don't really know where to clock Piper at this point. I don't know what's go goingna happen with guy talking the gun. Honestly, I really don't. And then I think that Lori will somehow find out that Jacqueline and Valentine hooked up. But I'm also extremely interested to know how the next morning will go at breakfast, because he is still their butler. You know what I mean? So is he gonna go to work the next morning and meet them at breakfast and be like, hi, ladies, yoga. Like, oh, what if that just be so awkward after the night they just had? I don't know. Because is he still gonna have to be their butler, like, normal, or is it gonna just be weird? You know what I mean? We've all had those nights where it's like, it seems so fun and crazy and silly in the night, but then, uh, literally, as the sun comes up the next day, you're just kind of like, yeah, it's a bit awkward now. You know what I mean? So I feel like it's going to be awkward, but maybe not, because they're supposedly supposed to go to that fighting boxing match the next night with the Russing guys. So, uh, like, maybe this, the ladies and the Russian guys thing continues for the remainder of the trip. I don't know. Or, oh, my God, wouldn't it be te if Lori then hooked up with Valentine the next night? Uh, wait, I kind of think that's gonna happen because she did whisper in Valentine's ear. And he does seem like he's kind of down for it, but he's clearly not actually into them. Like, he's just down for a hookup, right? Because he's not going to say no. So maybe he's like, okay, Jacqueline tonight, Lori tomorrow. Who gives a fuck? Zib. What did they say? Zib. Now this is gonna piss me off. How did they say it? Xuu. Both. Xuu. That's what Valentine saying anyways. So, uh, I really don't know though. I feel like I could go in so many directions. We haven't seen Kun Sutala in a few days or we. Well, in two episodes because she's back in Bangkok. So I'm very interested to see how that will all, you know, come to fruition. But yeah, please let me know your theories because I really don't know all I know or feel strongly about right now. Oh wait, also, we did not see Greg at all this episode. And I know he did not just get off the yacht only to google Belinda. Like there's no way that he just went home to do that and he didn't go sneak out and do something else. I feel like Greg is out there doing something right now. We just don't know where he is or what he's doing. So maybe he is plotting. Maybe he was outside the window at Belinda. And maybe it is a good thing that Pornchai stayed because maybe he was. Yeah, he probably was trying to get in, but it conveniently synced up with the fact that there was a monitor lizard behind the dresser. But Greg actually was outside. Outside the window. Wait, I think that could be true. I think that could be true. So hypothesis. Greg was outside the window, but they also was a monitor lizard behind the dresser. So they just thought it was that. And they were like, okay, noise is gone. But Greg actually was outside because she's like, oh no, it's coming from the window. And then porn child was like, no, I think it's coming from over here. But anyways, so those are my theories. I hope you enjoyed and I will see you next week to discuss even more. Bye.