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Creating an Ecommerce Brand from Scratch + The White Lotus S3 E6 Breakdown
EP #39: Ellen went to Drag Race Bingo at Soho House and she announced her new swimwear and resort wear brand, Louise the Label! Also, The White Lotus S3 E6 was traumatizing...
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Hey, guys. Welcome back to Reasonably Certain. My name is Ellen and this is episode 39. I hopefully don't sound too annoying still because I'm still kind of getting over my cold that I had last week. Um, and it's only been a few days since I filmed the last episode because I was sick last week. Blah, blah, blah. If you didn't hear in the last episode, I've just filmed on Friday. It's Tuesday evening now, so not that much has transpired between that episode and this episode. So the beginning of this podcast will hopefully maybe be a little bit shorter. But I like to talk a lot and it makes it annoying for me to edit later on, actually. Let me know what you prefer. If you prefer longer episodes or shorter episodes. I know these episodes tends to go a bit longer because I just have so much to say about the White Lotus. And on, like an average episode length, I think I usually shoot for like the 50 minute to one hour mark, which is what I prefer and is what most of the podcasts I watch, you know, go for. I feel like anything shorter than 50 minutes just goes by too fast. And I know that going over an hour can sometimes feel long for some people. Um, so that's why I usually just go for the one hour mark. But during the White Lotus season, I can't, you know, can't make any promises. I've gone way over one hour every time. I just, I have too much to say anyways, so I'm not gonna talk about the white loadus quite yet, but. Oh my God. Episode six. What the fuck? What the fuck? So before I get into that, let's talk about what I've been up to for this past five days, four days since I talked to you last. Um, I did go to drag race bingo on Saturday night. I was feeling better enough and like, my symptoms were going away, so I went to drag bingo, uh, at Soho House. I've never been to Soho House before. It was very cool, very beautiful. I was so sad that you can't take pictures there because it's so aesthetic and gorgeous that I was like, I just want to take like, aesthetic, like feed filler photos, like Pinterest vibe photos. Like, I don't want to take photos of anyone. I just want to take photos of the building. It's so pretty. Um, and then we went to Drake Bingo. Super fun. I went with my friend Marley and I loved it. I've never done drag bingo before and I would 1 million percent do it again. It was super fun. Um, we didn't win. But we were at a table with a few other people, like, kind of sitting around like a coffee table, and somebody else at the table did win and they were giving away, like, spicy margaritas for the prize. I mean, there was no, like, money prize or physical prize. It was just for free drinks. So Marley made a drink, like, so you win for the whole table, right? Uh, and so the guy that won was like, yeah, can we get a prize for the whole table? And they brought us all spicy margaritas, which was nice. And then someone else at our table one. And again at the end of the whole night. And so at the very end, they were offering spicy margaritas again. And we were like, can we get the whole table again? Woo. But I have a feeling they heavily diluted it because I do not think that they were like full strength margaritas. I think they were like splitting a little bit of the amount of tequila, like, amongst five glasses instead of two caus. When I got it, I was like, this kind of just tastes like water with a hint of pepper in it. Like, it doesn't really taste like there's any alcohol in it, which is fine. I mean, it was fun. It didn't matter, whatever. At least they were free. And then we just kind of hung out and talked and made some new friends afterwards. So that was really nice. But I just love it. Like, I love the music. I know every single song. I just love the vibes. Like, I got to wear fake lashes. Well, because I wanted to do my makeup. Like, not like drag, but more out there than I would typically wear on a typical Spanish night out. Because in the US I would wear a full strip lash no matter what, every time I get ready to go out in Arizona, to go out in Minnesota. I mean, it also was like the makeup trend of the time, right? Because we're talking about, like 2015 to 2020. So those years were definitely like heavy makeup years as well. And yeah, when I moved here, I still brought a bunch of lashes with me because, I don't know, I was. It was my first time really, like, going out after Covid. Even though it was 2023, it was the first time I was really like, you know, actually going out and doing things. And, uh, I quickly realized in Spain, like, they do not wear falsies. That's not a thing here. They're very light makeup, Very light makeup. So I don't. I like to wear my makeup the way I like to wear it. Obviously, I wear it just like as I wear in this video. This is like My typical, like, going out makeup that I would put on. Uh, so I pretty much do everything the same. I just don't put lashes on because for some reason, the lashes just really put it over the top. But I think I have larger eyes, so, like, my eyes can handle lashes pretty well. Uh, where it doesn't. I don't think it looks too, too overly glam on me, per se, because I feel like my face and my eye shape can, like, quote, unquote, hold lashes well where it doesn't overwhelm my face, if that makes sense. Uh, so when I put lashes on for drag, Bingo. I was like, oh, this feels right at home. This feels right at home. And then I was like, dang. Well, I do have a bag of, like, 50 pairs of lashes that I've been hoarding for years. Cause it's not like they go bad. And I was like, I spent my hard earned money on these. Like, I'm not just gonna let them go to waste. I'm gonna use them one day. Um, and you can reuse them a million times, so they will truly last, like, forever. So I have a ton of lashes, and I just keep using the same Giselle pair from Huda Beauty. Uh, and I love them. And I just put them on, and I'm like, ah. I knew I'd been missing something. And it really just takes your makeup look to the next level. And then I just. My eyebrows are, like, 50% bleached. 50% my natural hair right now. So I've been drawing them in the past week. Cause I've decided I'm kind of over the bleached brow look for now. I love it, but I do miss, like, giving my face some structure. Because although I love the bleach brow look, my brow bone is, like, it doesn't have much structure to it. So, like, it kind of leaves the upper half of my face a bit, like, flat and unfinished looking, if that makes sense. Um, whereas some people might have, like, really structured brows to begin with. So if they bleach them, you can still kind of see the structure, and it still has a shape even though it's bleached. But my eyebrows don't have a great shape, like, to begin with. So I like how they look way better when I can finesse the inner corner of each brow, because I just don't grow hair that much in the inner corner. And I personally feel it looks way better when they're drawn in because I can create the shape I want to give my brows the shape I want. Uh, so when they're bleached, I was like, yeah, I love it, but I'm getting a little bit over, like, the whole not having any shape that I want to my brow bone area. So I think I'm ready to not bleach my eyebrows for a little while anyway. And, uh, so since I still had, like, 50% bleached brow hairs, it was pretty easy to just, like, put a little concealer on them, just like, a little bit to kind of, like, bleach them out again. So I did that for Saturday because I was like, well, I still basically have bleach brows. Like, I have to do bleach brows for a drag event. It just is super fitting. And then I just use, like, a really pretty, like, lilac lavender shadow from my Iszumea beauty palette. And that was it. I just did, like, the lashes, purple eyeshadow, bleached brows, chef's kiss, lovely combo. So that was super fun. I would definitely want to go again. Yeah. But that was my Saturday night. And then we felt like we were really crazy. We stayed up until, like, two in the morning. Whoa, that's crazy for us. And then went home. And then Sunday, I just slept in really late. And, uh, I cooked and cleaned all day, so I felt like it was. It was one of those days where I just put my, like, big Sony over the ear headphones on and I just had my music playing. Cause at first I was gonna play my music out loud on my laptop, and then I was like, honestly, on a Sunday afternoon, that's kind of obnoxious for all my neighbors, even if they can't really hear it. I know for a fact when you're in the hallway, you can hear inside people's apartments really easily. So I was like, okay, let me not be obnoxious for, like, five hours while I'm cleaning and put my headphones on and be a considerate neighbor. So I have my headphones on with music all even or all afternoon and evening on Sunday. Um. Um. But it was actually really nice. Cause, you know when, like, I've been avoiding doing some deep cleaning for a while because, like, my apartment doesn't really get that dirty. When I say deep cleaning, I'm meaning, like, a dusty corner and maybe, like, wiping under a shelf that hasn't been looked at in a few months. But normally it's just, like, a forgotten dusty corner. And then, like, some clutter that builds up because I don't know where to put it. And then I just put it in a pile, and then I Just leave it there for like a few months. And it's not like messy, but it's just like clutter. And I'm like, I don't know what the f to do with it because I don't have that much room in this apartment. And I've even significantly downsized since living in the US and I still just accumulate shit. So that's mostly what I was doing on Sunday. But I love when you just get in the zone. And so I was like in the zone cleaning, doing like full blown spring cleaning. And I got about halfway done. I still have some stuff to do, but I feel really good that I got a lot of it done. Like, yeah, mostly was annoying and I knew it needed to be done. Was like cleaning my bathroom shelves and all the products I have and like reminding myselves myself which products I have and also throwing out expired ones that have been completely forgotten about and just like at the bottom of a drawer or a bucket for like two years. So, uh, it was good to go through that and clean everything and whatever. So I got a lot of spring cleaning done. So that was good because it's, you know, it's almost April. We're in spring, guys. We're in spring. Even if it doesn't really feel that warm yet. I know at least in Barcelona it's gonna warm up pretty quickly. Hereus it's been pretty cold as far as like a late winter, early spring here in Barcelona. We've had a rain for weeks and it's felt like we're in the Netherlands. Just like gray, rainy, cloudy, sad, depressing. And finally we got sun this weekend. And yeah, so it's been feeling kind of depressing, kind of cold, gloomy. Um, but like last year at this time, for example, it was like warm enough that you could go maybe not swimming, but like you could go lay on the beach and get a tan this exact time last year. So we're having definitely like a longer, colder, drawn out end of winter. Um, but I know for a fact, like by mid April it will probably be warm enough to lay out. Maybe not swim like I said, but like get a little bit of a tan if the sun is out. I even noticed at my gym today. Cause I went to the gym today, guys. High five. Um, I even noticed at the gym today people were not in their swimsuits, obviously. Cause that would be kind of wild for March, but they were already on the pool loungers, like just soaking up the sun in their clothes, but like just reading outside in the sun. So I Was like, okay, this is the first day I've noticed people are actually sitting outside and not freezing their butts off. So that's a good sign. So I'm like, okay, spring cleaning time. I think next I need to go through my closet and like go through all my clothes, swap out the winter wardrobe. Um, then I need to, I don't know, mop my floors. Fun. And I also need to put my suitcases away. They have like special covers and everything. And they have a place where they're supposed to go, but they've just been sitting there since September. And I'm like, yeah, they can live there, it's fine. Like they're not in the way. They're just like on a different against a different wall than the wall that I want them to be against. So like they're fine. But if I want it to look really tidy in here, I should be putting them in their little fancy like cover bags and putting them in the corner that I want them to be in. Um, and then maybe like, maybe I'll wash my windows, but I usually don't bother because they get dusty in two seconds. So I'm like, eh, whatever. It's not like I need crystal clean windows to look out of. Um, and they just get dusty from the outside from whenever it rains, it like kicks up and splashes dust. So I know that's thrilling for you guys to hear, but yeah, my parents are visiting soon and I don't need it to be perfect for them, but I would like them to see my apartment and be like, oh wow, it's's so beautiful. And I'm like, I know, it just is like this all the time. So uh, yeah, that's exciting for me. So I spring cleaned and I got about half of it done and it felt really good. So if you need motivation, just put some headphones on and just get in the zone. And then you can't stop. Once you start, it's great. And then yesterday I actually, I guess I'm just gonna say it on the podcast cause it's already out there. It's not like it's some big secret. But remember a couple episodes back I was telling you guys, like, oh my God, I'm working on something, but I can't tell you yet because I didn't know how long I was going toa keep it a secret. But guys, um, I can't keep secret. Well, I can keep secrets, but for myself, when I have something exciting going on, I'm the worst at keeping a secret. Cause I Just want toa tell everyone what I'm doing. Cause I just want toa share it with people. I can't keep it inside. It's like too exciting. So I didn't even plan this out. I was completely on a whim. But yesterday I had three phone calls with manufacturers to discuss creating swimwear. I know. So a few weeks ago on March 9, so it was the Sunday after International Women's Day, I was online shopping for my trip to Miami and I was like looking for swimsuits and also just like cute resort wear dresses that I could maybe wear to like a nice dinner when I'm there. Um, or just like a birthday dinner dress that would be good in like a tropical climate. And I couldn't find anything. I was getting so frustrated and I was just going through like website to website. I think I probably went through at least 50 websites and I was checking all recommendations all over the Internet, like in YouTube videos, Reddit posts and TikToks. Like I just still was struggling to find anything. So I was getting really fed up. And then I landed like one of the last websites that I was gonna check for dresses before I was basically fed up. Shopping for the weekend was House of cb and they on their homepage had like a female founder initiative fund where they're going to give away like 3, 3 cash prizes to female founders. If you send in your business pitch, uh, they might pick you and then they'll, you know, send you a prize if you win. So I was like, wait. Well, this annoying feeling has been brewing inside me all weekend while I've been online shopping in my bed. But I was just like, yeah, I've been really frustrated that I can't find any swimsuits and dresses that would fit me with bigger boobs. And also like, uh, specifically like resort wear dresses. I want to be able to wear like a really cute like kind of sexy dress, but also high end that you could wear to like a really nice restaurant for dinner. Cause I'm thinking specifically like if you were to go to like Miami, Cancun, Cabo, like those kind of places where it's like you can go to like a pretty high end restaurant but you still wanna dress like tropical, um, but you still wanna be like sexy but not like too sexy because you used still wanna look like, you know, appropriate for the venue. Um, but I couldn't find anything like that, that first of all wasn't like€500 insane and that you could wear a bra with. And I can maybe wear a strapless bra But I really don't want to. I. Unless I have to. I can do it if I want to, but, like, backist stuff. Hey, not gonna work for me. I don't have size A boobs, okay? So I'm like, I was just, like, getting so fed up. And then I saw this female founder initiative on House of CB and I was like, well, shit, I mean, what do I got to lose? Like, I mean, I might as well whip up a brand and see what happens. Like, the worst that can happen is I at least create an idea. And even if I don't win the prize, like, it kind of gave me the kick in the butt to do it, because it's been kind of rattling around in the back of my mind. But it's one of those things that I was like, oh, it's such a big feat. Like, it's such a huge undertaking like that. Like, I'll just push it off, you know, future me will get around to it sometime. And usually the reason I don't do stuff that feels like big and challenging is because I don't know enough information about it. So I was like, girl, I have chachybt at my fingertips. Like, it's the easiest day to start a brand ever is today. It's way easier than it was five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Like, you can start a brand so easily. And I kind of felt like, at all. Like, I'm at a point in my life where all my knowledge has culminated and, like, come to this perfect point where it's like, I feel like a lot of things lately where maybe I'm trying to be more grateful and, like, see things like, oh, things are meant to happen in their own time. And when I feel pushed to do something, I should just do it. Even if it feels a bit scary, because I probably do have the capabilities to do it. And, like, I should just try. And the very least you'll learn something, right? Even if it doesn't work out, you know, perfectly, like, you hope so. I was like, yeah, fuck it. Like, I'm gonna make a pitch deck and I'm gonna submit a pitch and I'll see if I get picked. But even if I don't, like, it gives me a, uh, kick in the butt to do something about it. So I just looked up how to make a pitch deck. I was like, okay, easy. I already have all the products. Like, I know exactly who I wanna market to, the price I wanna set it at, the competitors I have, and I know all the similar products that are in the market that I wanna change something about or that I don't like, or the exact features that I would want in my swimwear and resort, where I was like, easy, easy. That is already rattling around in my head for months, years. Like, I don't need to do basically any product research that I know is, duh. I have a frustration. It's right there in front of me. So I was like, that part's easy. I just need to come up with a name, make sure the domain name is available, make sure the social media handles are available, and make a deck. So it just kind of rolled off the tongue. I don't even know. Like, I had a way harder time coming up with my podcast name, which is reasonably certain that took me way longer. But for whatever reason, on that Sunday, I was just thinking, like, okay, maybe I could do something with my middle name. I don't want it to be something swimwear because I don't want to, you know, limit myself to only swimwear. I want to do resort wear and also, who knows, like, maybe in the future I branch out to a few other types of apparel or accessories. So I was like, I don't want it to be like blank name swimwear or anything like that because I don't wanna be pigeonholed. So I was like, you know, it's a bit, um. Like, to use the label at the end of something is a bit like, easy, because a lot of people do that. Yellow. The label, Mars the label. Like, there's a lot of blank the labels. But I was like, okay, well, my middle name's Louise. It's still kind of connected to me, but it's not like, what I'm. My name. People don't know me as Louise. That's just my middle name. So I was like, okay, it's like a little bit separate from me, that it's not like, literally my image online, but it is still my middle name. And then I was like, oh, well, Louise, the label just like rolls off the tongue. Easy. Maybe I can just do that. I'm not gonna overthink it. I'm just gonna do it and see if it's available. And I don't know, it's like the stars aligned. And I just. I wasn't gonna overthink it. I was like, you know what? Would I maybe like to have a name that doesn't have the label at the end? Yes. But I know that I'm not going to go with just Louise, because when I looked on all the trademark registries, there's a million businesses named Louise. And I don't. I also don't want something that's too short, that might not stick in people's head quite well enough. And Louise, the label does roll off the tongue really well, and I think it's more memorable than just Louise. So I was like, you know what? I'm not going to overthink it. I like it, it sounds nice and it's available, so I'm going toa take it and roll with it. And that's just going toa be the name. So I'm happy with it. I was like, holy crap, I can't believe I came up with that name in like five minutes. And I'm just not gonna overthink it because some people can spend months or, nah, not necessarily years, but months. Like, I in my job now, we can spend months rethinking the name and the colors of the brand. It's. It's wild how much time you can truly spend on the name and colors of a brand. It's really crazy. But I already knew. I was like, hey, neutral colors. I don't need it to be super colorful. And I already know I want my favorite color, blue, to be a feature in it because I didn't really think that the color blue was a good fit for my podcast, per se, but I was like, wait for a swimwear resort wear brand? Perfect. Like, don'how. Do I describe my favorite color blue to you guys? It's like baby blue. Baby blue. I don't know what it is. Every time I see it, I'm just like, o. That color is so beautiful. So I knew I wanted baby blue to be featured in the brand. And then just neutral colors, black and white, and then a few, like, beiges and whatever. Taupes and grays, Easy. I mean, whatever. And then I knew a Shopify store was gonna be my go to. It's gonna be strictly E commerce. So I was like, okay, I already know that I'm gonna go Shopify. I already know that I'm gonna have a very social media first brand. So I need to make sure that I grab the Instagram and TikTok handles for it and grab the domain name through Shopify. And that was pretty much it. So I created the pitch deck. I already knew exactly what I wanted the, you know, like, mission and goal of the brands to be. So I just needed to create a deck that kind of, like, visually presented that, and that was what happened. So I felt like my knowledge in E commerce from my time working at Salsify and then now my knowledge in my current job in graphic design and branding and marketing has all like culminated to this point where I just like, this is all time investment, right? Like a year ago, two years ago, I would have never been able to whip up a brand pitch deck in like three hours. I would have probably had to spend weeks learning it. And even then I would have still not been super, like, sure of myself. But my friend Yoli has taught me so much ca because she's a brand strategist and she's been doing branding for like 12 years. And I have learned a lot from her. And also, just coincidentally, in my job, I didn't pick my job specifically, I just picked my job. Cause, well, we all need a job. But I really love working there and I really have enjoyed like getting to see this side of like marketing. Cause I never. When you hear marketing, it's just such a big vague term that I was like, what does that even mean? Um, so now I work on more like the visual creative side of brand of marketing. Sorry. And it's super interesting. And so I just feel like, okay, I already knew all the back end of E commerce. I knew how brands manage their product information management system. Like, that's what Salsi is. It's a product information management software. So I was working with brands all the time on like how they create their skus, their governance, their naming conventions, which retailers they send their information to. Like, I learned all of that from like 2021 to 2023. And then now for a little bit over a year, I've been learning just about like marketing and branding. And this is all just through my day job. Not even intentionally, but it's just like, oh, I'm really lucky that I just happen to have that experience to bring me to this point where I'm like, oh, now I have the knowledge that I can just like whip up a brand and a brand deck in a few hours and I feel confident about it. Of course, features about the brand are gonna change over time, but I feel confident that I've gotten it to like m the um, mvp, like the minimum viable product per se, to have a brand to announce it and say like, hey, this is what I'm doing. The font is there. I'm not gonna change the font. The logo is there. I'm not gonna change that. But maybe the look and the feel and the tone and the voice will change because I don't have products yet. I don't have a photo shoot yet. That's the piece I'm missing. And that's the piece that mystified me that I was like, I don't know anything about that. I knew all of the, like, front facing pieces of a brand, like the social media, the photo shoots, the vibe, the branding, the marketing, the e commerce, all of the, like, front stuff that the customer sees. I already knew all that. It was easy peasy. Like, I didn't need to focus on it too much. But what mystified me and freaked me out was like, the sourcing and the suppliers and the manufacturing and the logistics and the shipping and the packaging. I was like, oh. And the legalities, like taxes and fees. I was like, no, no, no, no, this is too much. But then I was researching brands for Miami Swim Week and I was like, there's so many brands. I can do this. If they can do it, I can do it, so I'm just gonna do it. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm feeling kind of crazy. Like I'm just gonna launch a brand, I guess. Like, oh my God. And so, yeah, yesterday I just felt kind of like silly and crazy. Caus I had a few different calls with manufacturers in Portugal specificallyuse I want it to be based in Europe because although there's plenty of amazing swimwear manufacturers outside of Europe, just like getting the fabric or the prototypes or the swimsuits themselves into the EU is just an extra annoying step that I don't want to have to take. So I'm like, if it just starts in the eu, I don't have to do a bunch of like, it won't take like four to six weeks just to get the pieces into the EU region. And then I don't have to pay customs and go through government agencies and blah, blah, blah, bl. So if it just starts in the EU and goes out, it's much easier than starting out, going in and then going back out. I was like, o gross. Just start in the EU and we will go from there. So I'm leaning Portugal. It's still close to Spain. Um, and feel. I feel that it makes more sense for swimwear. So I had a few phone calls. I really didn't know what to expect. I was very nervous. And I do find it a little bit interesting that the first two phone calls were with like old white men. And, you know, I was like, hey, I have questions written down here of what I've from my research. Like, one is supposed to ask to vet a manufacturer. And they were like a bit, I don't know, I was like, is there any structure to this call. Cause they were the ones that asked me to set up a call. And I'm like, yeah, sure, absolutely. So I knew that I was gonna have some questions, but on the first call I was like, so I don't know how these calls typically go. Like, do you have like, any points that you need me to cover? Like questions? And he's like, no, just, just ask me what you want to ask. And I'm like, o, um, uh, thank you. But what? Like, okay, super open ended. Almost like a little too much. I was like, all right. Um, but ultimately I've learned, like, you just need to make sure they have the certifications you want. Because, like, I wanna be running in, um, as much as I possibly can, like an eically and ethically made and sustainable brand. Uh, make sure they have the fabrics you want to accomplish that goal as well. Make sure they have the certifications you want. Make sure they can produce the items you want. Because a lot of manufacturers, I've noticed, literally just produce only denim, or they only produce work uniforms, or they only produce like men's suits. So it'll be like kind of really specific. And some manufacturers only produce swimsuits. And I'm like, okay, that's great. But like, again, I don't wanna have like, I'm trying to minimize and make everything as efficient as possible. So I don't wanna have to work with two manufacturers if I can find one that does both. You know what I mean? Um, so I'm trying to find a manufacturer that does both. And then also I've found that you have to have a 3 PL provider, a third party logistics provider, a fulfillment provider. So you know how there's like FBA fulfillment by Amazon? Um, I need that. But I'm not selling through Amazon. I'm just selling through my website. So then they would have a section in their warehouse with my items, my SKUs, and they would get the orders from my website and do all the packaging and shipping and everything so that I don't have to touch a thing. So that's what I'm trying to do, guys. And I just was like, so proud of myself after the phone calls with the manufacturers yesterday. Oh, sorry. I got totally off track after the two phone calls with the older guys. I was feeling a bit like, okay, that was kind of unhelpful, but like, thanks, I guess, because the phone calls were only five minutes max. They were so quick. I was like, was there really a need to have a phone call or did you just want to see my Face to make sure I wasn't like a scammer. Like, I'I don't know, I don't know. But then the third phone call I had was with like, a girl my age. And I was like, o, thank God. Like, finally someone who gets it. And she was so nice, so helpful. Like, really reassuring. Like, I don't know, there's just a completely different vibe. And I was like, this is why I like working with younger people and also girls or women. So I was just like, God, there was just such a night and day difference between talking to older men and then like a girl my age. I was like, God, thank God, someone normal. Anyways, so that was my point of that. But they were all very nice and they were all still very helpful, even though I was like, I don't know how these phone calls go. I just have a few questions to make sure that we're a good fit. Mostly about the price as well. Ca because I don't have thousands of euros just sitting in a bank account waiting for me to spend them on samples. Like, I have to make sure that I can get a good sample made out of factory that can do everything I need them to do with the fabrics. I want them to use in a reasonable amount of time for a reasonable amount of money. So that was essentially what the calls were for, just to see if we would be a good match. And I was so excited after having those calls that I was like, um, I guess I should just post on social media. I don't know. Like, I just feel like'what's the point in waiting? I really enjoy watching the process of things be born and created. Like, um, I know I forgot her name, but the founder of 93 Play Street Swimsuits, she's been documenting essentially, like the entire process of her creating her swimwear brand from scratch. And her whole, like, tagline and mission is to make like the. What does she call it? Like the chicken tendies or something? I don't know. But like, you know, the crotch seam to make it wider, um, so that people don't feel like, you know, two centimeters is not enough for the average woman. You know what I mean? So to make it like a little wider so you feel more secure and covered. So that was kind of like the whole catalyst behind her brand, which I'm definitely behind. And I would love to have wider seems on mine as well. But that's not really the point behind my brand. But she has posted kind of. I mean, I've followed her along her journey for like, probably two or three years now of her just posting, like, here's some samples I got. Here's me adjusting the samples. Like, here's why I created the brand. And I think what I've listened also to probably like 30 different female founder podcast interviews in the past three weeks and almost every single one has said, uh, like they really think that founder led brands are in the future. So like, they want to see who's the face of the brand. Is it someone that you want to support? Do you like, like the ethos and the vibe of the brand? Do you agree with who's running the brand? Because people are becoming more conscious consumers. So having like the founder and the why and the ethos, like at the forefront of your social presence is also very important. So I was just kind of like, yeah, I mean, I don't want to wait till I have like a perfectly curated like, photo shoot to be like, hey, I have a swimwear brand. Like, and I would rather people know about it now, know why I'm making it, they can see how I've made it, understand the labor of love behind the process, and then eventually, when I am ready to actually launch with a viable product, that people would be excited and already know about it and I won't have to rely so much on that, like, what do they call it, like that short, uh, tease window, like teaser window before you officially launch. Because a lot of people, when they do announce a launch, they give themselves about a week and that's not much time. If you don't have a huge following to begin with, that's not much time to get people aware of your brand and to get people interested in actually buying what you're selling. So I was like, I see no point in waiting. Honestly, I have nothing to hide. I'm excited to share it. It's a labor of love. I can even take, you know, like, um, people's point of views and people's suggestions into account when I'm designing the pieces and tweak it with like audience suggestions along the way. And then they kind of feel like they have a piece of what I've created and that they feel like included in it and heard. And I was like, yeah, okay, I guess I'm just gonna make like a few videos explaining what I'm doing and like, uh, ah, okay, it's out there. Like it's real now. I can't like hide it and just say I'm working on this mysterious thing and that it might never come to fruition. Like, I just posted it And I was like, okay, that's what I'm doing. Ah. Uh. And everyone was super nice and super supportive. And so if you wanna follow, it'suis. Well, it's Shopluise the label. Cause someone else has the other one. But it'sopluise the label on Instagram and it's Luise Theabel on TikTok. And if you wanna look, it's louisealeabel.com comm but just letting you know, it's still a Shopify template. So there's nothing on there yet. Um, and I'm still deciding how quickly I want to launch the brand and how I want to finance the brand. And I mean, there's several ways you can finance a brand. It's either through a business loan, a family and friend loan. Like some of your family and friends give you money and maybe you pay it back, maybe you don't. That's all up to you. And otherwise you can apply for like, business grants. Like, well, that's what I did through the House of CB Fund. Uh, and grants you don't have to pay back. It's just basically like a gift. Or you can pitch to, like, venture capitalists and investors. But I think from what I understand in retail and like specifically in apparel, um, there's not usually a whole lot of investors that are like, willing to dump a bunch of money into your project because there's just so much out there that it's pretty rare that someone is starting an apparel brand that's not. Like they would need something that really disrupts the market to, like, have a bit less risk on their investment and, like, ensure that they get their money back. And let's be real, a lot of people start brands and a lot of them fail. And I'm not saying that mine's not going to fail. Like, I'm scared that it could. But also, there's no timeline. I have no timeline. My timeline is simply. I just want to figure out how to do it. And then once I have the money to do it, great, I'll put in the order and whatever. The only issue is that I would love for it to start right now. And manufacturers take a long time, as I'm sure you guys have heard from. If you've heard other founders talk about their brands. And so it will probably launch next spring. If I had to guess, just because of the timeline to custom design every single piece. Because there is also an option to do like, private label, where you go to a site like Bali Swim or something, which I'm not against the idea, but I kind of. The whole point behind my brand though is I don't want to use like something that's already on the market because what's on the market doesn't really cater to the type of people that I'm marketing to. So it's like the whole point of my brand is that I'm like, redesigning swimwear and resortwear to fix the issues that are not currently available in the current swimwear market. Like, that wouldn't really be solving the issue per se. Like, it would just, it would be an easy way to do it for sure, but it's not really what I want to do. Um, but you can just like pick from a catalog essentially and just put your label on it and like, just pick the colors and put it on your website. And like, you don't have to touch a thing. They just do it for you. They print your label, they ship it off, it's done. Um, so there are options like that, but I don't want to do that. So if I want to design everything from scratch, it's go goingna take a while to do that with the manufacturers. So I think I'm just gonna launch m my next springus. I might be done as soon as October, November. Um, and that's a pretty conservative timeline. I would probably be done by then. But launching a Northern Hemisphere swimwear, a brand in the winter, just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So I think it would make the most sense if I gave myself like a 365 day timeline and that I launch in a year from now, which is fine. There's not really supposed to be a rush on it, even though I wish it could go faster. But when I remember like Katie and Desi, like Katie has 30 years, Desi has her Desi eyewear line. And when I think about, even when like makeup gurus have done collabs with makeup brands, like, sometimes they're in the discussion of the products for the collab for like two years before it comes to life. Same with like Desi's eyewear brand. I think she mentioned that it took like almost two years for it to come to life. Um, I can't remember exactly how long Katie took was 30 years, but like, same thing. It's not something that happens overnight. So even though I did create the brand very quickly, uh, actually bringing it to fruition with the physical products does take some time, especially when you're making things from scratch with your own designs. So you do have to find a Manufacturer who can handle that, the timelines, the price is blah, blah, blah. So there is your little mini course on eco commerce brands and that's what I've been doing this week. So I'm very proud of myself. Even though it's like just a concept really at this point. But I'm happy to share about it because I think, and I know, you know, TikTok hears me, TikTok knows what I've been engaging with. So now I've been seeing these videos that are like, oh my God, I can't believe like are people like somebody shopping on Revolve for example, which love Revolve, but let's be real, most of their clothing is made for somebody who's like 120 pounds with like a cup. So they can wear a tiny bikini that's like 4 square centimeters of fabric that just covers their nipple or they can wear like a G string because they just don't have that much skin to cover. Or they can wear like a backless dress because they don't need a bra, they just need like a couple band aids in the front and they're good like, you know what I mean? Love that for them, love that for them. But like, if we're being honest, majority of people, if you walk outside and look at the human population on the street, most people are not £125 with a cups. So it's beautiful. Love that they can basically wear anything because they don't need to wear a bra. But like for the rest of us, we are not, you know, stunting on them every day and we just wanna wear a bra and like feel comfortable. So I was like, that's kind of the main point of why I want to make a brand. And I've been seeing a lot of people complaining about it now that I've been probably my phone just knows that that's what I'm doing. So I've been seeing a lot of videos complaining about it and I'm like, okay, this is a very real thing and I think this will very much serve that market, but it will just take some time and yeah, so just let me know if you guys have any suggestions of like pieces that you've been frustrated about or like features of a swimsuit or a dress that you really want, please let me know because I'm still very much in the designing phase. I have like five pieces already designed and of course I'm not going to come out right away with like a 20 piece collection and just be like, no, I don't have the budget for that. So unless I miraculously come into, like, a hundred grand, that's not happening. It's probably going to be a very small capsule collection to begin with, but I can still design in the meantime and keep the designs, like, you know, in the pipeline for future collections. So let me know if you guys have any swimwear woes that you want fixed, and I will make them for you, like your little fairy godmother. So, yeah, thank you for listening to that. Now, I've already talked for 47 minutes, so that's really nice. U. Um, so moving on, let's discuss the White Lotus. I am so traumatized by this episode, but also, we have to talk about it. This is insane. This is, like, the most insane episode that the White Lotus has ever put out, ever. I love Mike White's genius. I think I want this show to go on for, like, 50 more seasons. I can't get enough of it. This is like AP English me. Like, my adult obsession is, like, dissecting a show like this. It's just my favorite thing to do. So let's get into it. So episode six is called Denials. Uh, we have quite a lot of denials going on. It seems specifically with Saxon, but also with other characters. So we start the episode off with the super traumatizing scene of Tim, you know, pew. Pewing himself. Did anybody else think that was real? At first I was like. And then I'm like, no, there's no way, because that would be ridiculous. So I knew pretty quickly it was a dream. But still, hey, traumatizing to watch. The acting. Very good. Seemed very real. So after that little daydream, I guess, that Tim has, he puts the gun in that blue dresser drawer. And then we cut to Victoria and Tim in bed. And Victoria is still like. She just can't stop bringing up the Piper conversation, like, being like, don't worry, she's gonna be normal, just like the rest the us. Tim's like, I'm not worried in the slightest. Uh, like, if you only knew. And it is just driving me insane that they won't talk to each other about it. And also, we haven't seen the Lorazepam in a while. Where's the Lorazepam? And also, where is Pam? You know, their butler? Where did she go? I just kind of remembered that, uh, she exists. And I'm like, we've seen Valentine. We've seen. We have have seen Mooc a little bit. But she hasn't really been catering to Chelsea because, uh, partially They've been on the boat, so they haven't really been at the resort. But yeah, we haven't seen Pam. We've only really seen Valentine. And then we see Valentine leave the villa with Jacqueline, or Jacqueline helps Valentine leave early, early in the wee hours of the morning. And Kate gets all the tea. And I loved this because Kate was like, I saw that. And yeah, I just love that scene. And Valentine looked pretty happy with himself. Was he? When he was leaving, he just, what, went home, took a shower, slept for 30 minutes, and then he's already back dressed for work, like he didn't skip a beat. And then we cut to the traumatizing bit. Well, there's many traumatizing bits, but the most traumatizing, uh, Saxon wakes up looking rough. Typical as you expect. I mean, did you guys remember what I said in the last episode? I was like, it's all fun and games while the sun is down, but as soon as the sun starts coming up, you just get that. It's like that post not clarity where you're like, u, uh, everything we did doesn't seem so much fun anymore. And now reality is hitting us and it feels just weird. And it gets weirder. It gets weirder. So that's when we see flashbacks from Saxon's point of view. And at first we don't really know. We don't really know. It seems like Saxon might be the weirdo jacking off next to his brother. And I was like, oh, Saxon is so weird youw know, why is he doing that? And so I was thinking like, God, he would do that sick fuck. And then we see that Chloe actually hooks up with both Saxon and Laugchhan. And we don't know if Saxon realized what happened exactly. At first we don't know for sure. Cause in his first flashback pov, right when he wakes up, we just see that he's jerking off. But we don't know that Laughlin's doing it yet. So we don't know if Saxon remember that Lachlin was doing it. We. I mean, maybe for all we know, Saxon thought that maybe he was jacking himself off. Like maybe he couldn't remember clearly or maybe that was just to trick us as the viewers. It's hard to say for sure either way, traumatizing. But then we switched to Linda and porn. Shai. I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes. I love them so much. I just want them to, like, live happily ever after and start their little spa together. They're so cute. Um, but then Zion arrives and he Walks in on his mom. And I was like, ready for this to be also super traumatizing. But he handled it like so well. And he was like, oh, hey, like, oops, maybe you need a minute. Um, if that was me with my parents, I would start crying and throw up and like, my mood would be. I would be pissed for the rest of the day. Justuse simply, that's not how I want to start m my trip after going like a 24 hour flight, you know what I mean? But he handled it really well. I think they have a really nice relationship because he just seemed to. It just rolled off. He didn't care. So guy talks, still doesn't have the gun. When Pelek says that they should practice at the gun range after work. And guy talks like, p, sure, sure. Uh, yes, the gun, yes. And we're like, guys talk. What are you gonna do about it? Like, you don't have much time. You have one shift left to make this work and find the gun. So that's making us all nervous. And then Chloe and Chelsea talk about the knight. Gregash Gary called Chloe and thinks she hooked up with one of the brothers. Um, side note, Gregash Gary definitely has cameras all over the boat. So Chloe paying off the boat staff doesn't help because he definitely does, because otherwise why would he? I mean, he could see that she was clearly into Saxon the day before, so it's not like it takes a rocket science scientist to assume that that must have happened. But I think he for sure has cameras because he's not stupid. I was shocked when he let them take his, like, probably billion dollar yacht without him, even though they's staff and, you know, skippers and whatever, and a captain. But I would have been like, hell no, you're not taking my yacht without me. Are you fucking kidding me? But he probably got cameras. He got. He's got himself covered. So they were discussing the night, and Chloe does say that she hooked up with both of them. Thank God Chelsea did not. I was so glad she didn't. I mean, I knew she wouldn't. I didn't doubt her. I didn't doubt her, but I was just so glad that she didn't like Chelsea and Rick forever. And then Rick and Chelsea finally chat on the phone. They finally get to chat with each other, but then we hear Chelsea sing in the background. Like, you're supposed to put the I in front of I love you. You can't just say love you all the time. You have to put the eye in front of it. So Valid, because, yeah, they're very different meanings. And Rick just has to, like, dig deep and find it in himself to be a little bit emotionally available. Okay. A little bit vulnerable. Then we see Saxon come out of the room. He's on the deck on the boat, and he starts basically gagging when he remembers more of what happens. And I think this is when he remembers that Laughlin was actually the one jerking him off. So I think maybe in the initial flashback, he didn't remember exactly what happened. And then I think in that flashback, he remembers, oh, my God, my little brother was jacking me up. Oh. Even saying that out loud is like, what the fuck? It also seems like maybe Lochan at this point doesn't remember. But I think. I think there's also a theory that he didn't even take the drug. So that would be even more fucked up. Like, there's, like, kind of two pathways here. Like, either he took the drug and he genuinely doesn't remember at that point in time, and he's just like, hey, what's up? Like, he's, like, a normal amount of, like, chill, calm, hungover. And Saxon is, like, having a literal quarter life crisis and he's super hungover. So Loughlin could genuinely just not remember and, like, be sincere. Or he could be, like, the most sinister character on the show so far. Have not taken the drug. Oh, God. I really don't hope. I really hope. I mean, it's not good either way, right? It's not good either way. But it would be, like, disgustingly worse if he didn't take the drug, because if we remember, he's a magician. He could have finessed, like, looking like he took the drug and he really didn't. I feel like maybe he didn't, because I feel like maybe we. Maybe it was just really going to go there, that he's, like, truly, like, eff'd up in the head. So, uh, the other option that's some disgustingly worse is that he didn't take the drug, pretended to be fucked up on the drug, still kissed Saxon, as he's basically just a bit drunk, but not, like, high and drunk, kissed Saxon being the only, like, soberish one out of the group of four, and then also on top of that, trucked off his brother, and then also on top of that, waking up and pretending that nothing's wrong and that he doesn't remember. That would be so insanely sinister. So I really hope that that's not the case, but I can't put anything past Mike White. I feel like We've already gone this far. I wouldn't be that shocked if he just took it all the way there. So I'm really praying it's not much better, but I'm really praying that he took the drug and that he just doesn't remember at this point in time. Uh, you know, in this immediate morning moment. But, yeah, so we, as the viewers, start feeling really bad for Sax in this episode, because he was. And I heard some podcasts saying, like, oh, well, Saxon wasn't raped. He wasn't essayed. I'm like, yes, he was. What do you. What do you mean? What do you. What do you literally mean? Yes, he was. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. That is so traumatizing, like, to see. I feel Patrick Schwarzenegger played this really well. Like, we see the anguish and the turmoil in his every move and has every facial expression for this whole episode, and it is extremely uncomfortable to watch. So at this point, we assume Loughlin doesn't remember and Saxon is remembering all of it. And then he goes and throws up. Then we see that cutaway that was in the same. The same clip that was in the trailer with, like, the pufferfish washing up on shore. Um, still unsure what that means. I'm sure we'll figure it out, but I don't. I don't know what that means right now. Then we cut to Lori and Kate at breakfast, and I was just thinking, I wonder if they asked Jacqueline to go before going or if they just went without her. Because at this point, Laie doesn't know about Valentine staying over. Kate's the only one that knows. So if they both just went without Jacqueline, without even asking Jacqueline, I feel like that's already kind of sus. But I don't think it's really important to the plot. So I think it's probably assumed that Jacqueline just said, like, I'm tired. Go without me. But this is when Kate is like, guess what? And she's like, this morning, who do I see walking past my room? Valentine. Valentine or no, she says Valentin. They keep saying Valentin. So, yeah, Kate tells Lourri she saw Jacqueline and Valentine. Lari gets pissed. I loved this, you know, dialogue with Laie. So good. Lourri's like, hmm, Hm. What do you mean? Kate's like, well, I mean, they, you know. You know, put two and two together. Meanwhile, Jacqueline gets a call from Harrison. And do we think that Harrison's phone really just died and he didn't have access to charge it? Because when he's saying that, I'm thinking That he was in some, like, remote jungle location shooting where he, like, genuinely doesn't have access to an outlet. Because that's the only scenario where this would make sense as an excuse. Otherwise every single other place where you would be shooting would have access to an outlet. So I'm like, is he shooting a jungle documentary? Like, why is he not near an outlet? I don't understand. So I don't think anyone's buying his excuse that his phone died. So I think at this point, we're assuming that he also cheated on her. But maybe it's kind of, like the dynamic between, like, Theo and Megan or I forgot their Cameron and Daphne. That's her name. It's giving me similar vibes as, like, Cameron and Daphne from season two, where they, um, both knowingly kind of, like, cheat on each other, but they just don't talk about it, and it, like, kind of weirdly works for them. So I'm wondering if that's, like, kind of the same vibe that Jacqueline and Harrison have where, like, they're both obviously into each other, but they're also not very faithful. And, like, maybe they hook up with other people when they're away from each other, but, like, they still want each other as well. Like, I. That's the vibe I'm getting because Jacqueline doesn't seem torn up about the fact that he called right after Valentine left, and she's like, u like, still fresh after the f sess she had with Valentine. She doesn't seem bothered by it at all, and he doesn't seem bothered at all. And they seem fine, honestly. Um, but I have a feeling that he cheated on her, and we already know that she cheated on him. So maybe that's just their vibe. It's the same as Cameron and Daphne. That's the sense that I'm getting. And then we have the dialogue from Lori. Oh, so good. She says she literally lives off male attention. Now you're 45, and guess what? It's pathetic. O. So good. And then Valentine comes over, and Lori ices him out. She doesn't even say a thing. She doesn't even barely look at him. So it's a bit awkward. But we can tell Lori. I mean, she's obviously pissed. I think we're all on Lari's side, because even if she didn't want Valentine, it's just weirdo behavior from, like, your supposed best childhood friend. Like, weirdo behavior. So I would be pissed, too. I'd be like, okay. And so she pushed him down my throat all week, just to take him for herself, while she shouldn't even be cheating on her husband. Like, hello, psycho, demented psychotic. That's what Lari says. Then we cut to Belinda and Zion at breakfast. Belinda has, like, that little, like, uh, you get the money, you get the girl, whatever. Like, quote from Scarface. And Fabian came over to invite them to his performance this night, tonight, the next episode, because he's gonna sing. I was like, wait, I thought he played piano, but he also sings, I guess. So he's inviting all the staff to his performance at the restaurant. But as I was thinking, after listening to other podcasts dissecting this episode, I was like, wait, yeah, there's gonna be, like, barely anyone at the restaurant because all the rest of our characters are basically not gonna be there. So it's just gonna be Belinda, if that. Because she already seemed like she kind of had one foot out the door, like, didn't want to go. So poor Fabian might not have anyone there. And I did make concessions for him, essentially, last episode. I know a lot of people had very strong opinions about how his, uh, conversation with Belinda went last episode, when she was like, should we call the police? Like, I't know he murdered his wife. You know, let's do something about this. I do think there's still a very high chance that Fabian is in cahoots with Greg, because it is a bit weird that Greg and Chloe just hang out at the resort all the time, and they're not even officially guests, so that is weird. But I also want to believe that Fabian is not like that. So I guess we will have to see. Then we're back at the Ratliff Villa with the Ratliff family again. Saxon's hair is just, like, perfect hangover. Like, he looks the part. Victoria, again, is ranging on about Piper. But then, interestingly, even though Laughan wasn't there the night before at dinner to support Piper while she made her announcement to the parents, Laughlin still supported her during this conversation. And he was like, I think it sounds like it would d be a good experience. So he's still, like, supporting Piper, even though it wasn't in the timeline that she wanted. And then people were pointing out that Laughlin basically has a power dynamic upper hand over the whole family right now. Like, he has Saxon in the palm of his hand, literally. Um, he knows how much Piper is relying on him for emotional support right now, and his parents basically don't pay attention to him. So he basically has free reign because they, uh, basically pay zero att to him. So he basically has a power dynamic upper hand over his entire family right now. Then Victoria says, he better be the best Buddhist in China. And she just keeps having all these, like, ignorant lines that are kind of iconic. Then, of course, Piper is like, can you please come with to the mon. To the temple with us? And Laughan goes with. And then we cut to Greg, Gary, and Chloe, because Chloe finally came home, and he accuses her of hooking up with one of the brothers. This was kind of a chilling conversation because it's like, he obviously knows. I don't think this is a conversation where he's, like, insecure and questioning her because he feels insecure that she cheated. I think this is, like, a weird power thing where he definitely knows and, like, saw it on the cameras, and he's just waiting to see how she responds to him asking her. And that he's not even necessarily that upset about it, because he doesn't seem that upset about it. But I think he has a way larger agenda in mind. And, like, her hooking up with one of the brothers is like, you know, a, uh, small fish fry to him. Like, he doesn't care. He has bigger fish to fry than, like, a little sardine or something. You know what I mean? So for him, the brother hooking up thing is, like, not a big deal. He's like, hey, shut up. Just tell me if you did it. And she's like, we just did nothing. Okay? It was stupid. Which is basically an admission. And she's like, why do you want me to say that I hooked up with one of them? Like, is that what you want? And he basically is like, doesn't seem that mad about it, but he just says, bring him over tonight. And I'm thinking, like, okay, yeah, so he can kill him. But then I'm thinking, maybe not. Because at first I was like, wait, isn't Greg gay? And then I'm like, no, he's not gay. Because the whole u. Um, God, what is his name? Quentin. The whole, like, dialogue from Quentin to Tanya last season in the Chateau or the Mansion was that he didn't say explicitly Greg, but it was like that photo, the young photo of Greg. And he was like, oh, when you have someone that you truly love, but they don't love you back? Um, he'like, he was my best friend. He was my soulmate. Um, but we're just not compatible because he's not gay. And that was about Greg. So I'm like, maybe Greg's not gay. He just aligns himself with these evil gays. And that's really all there is to it. And he just is an opportunist at the end of the day. So I don't think that Greg Gary is gay then. Um, because first I was like, wait, maybe he does want to have a threesome with them. But then I'm like, no, I think if anything he wants to kill them or he's using them as blackmail or something. Like he has a larger idea in mind. He's. I don't think he's just gonna bring them over to kill him. Like that would be kind of rash in my opinion. He seems to be a fan of these larger, more elaborate schemes. So I think he's having this dinner party. Obviously, I think we consume to orchestrate a larger scheme than just simply murdering one of the guys because they hooked up with his girlfriend. So he says, bring him over tonight. And then, then he says, I need to deal with something and I need your help. And Chloe agrees, basically. So I think he's using the party as an alibi. I actually think, now that I think I've thought about it more. Greg and Chhloe, I think they're like the ultimate con men. They must run cons at this white lotus all the time. That's why they're there all the time. There's rich kind of aloof people there all the time that don't think they're in danger because they're in a, uh, you know, five star resort or whatever. But now I'm thinking back to episode one. I think it was episode one. Yeah. Where or where Chelsea went to the bar and Chloe was already sitting there by herself. And I was already thinking that that's a bit odd because we quickly find out that Chloe is with Greg behind her and he's sitting alone at a table, just kind of staring at her, but he's just alone, like, kind of observing the overall resort, like not eating, nothing, just sitting there. And Chloe was at the bar by herself. So I'm thinking they do this all the time. They come to the restaurant, he sits at a table by himself, she goes up to the bar, she cons men into sleeping with her, into giving them money. They steal the money from the men, whatever. It's pretty obvious, I think that they go to the resort specifically to run scams on other bald losers back home. The bald headed losers. So that seems pretty obvious. And it seems that he, you know, he's quite the con man himself. So that's my guess is that he and Chloe go to the restaurant, but not necessarily to hang out with each other like a date night. They are scheming. They are strictly there to scheme and that's all they do. So then we move to Belinda and porn. Shy again. And Born Chai suggests to Belinda to start a spa together in Thailand. And I think they should. And I think they should. So Rick meets Sritala at a restaurant. Rick says, uh, Steve has been watching all of Sritala's old movies. She says the movies are not that good. Which ones, I wonder? And I'm like, wait. Cause in the beginning, in the like episodes one and two, I'm thinking like, oh my God, she must just be like this amazing movie star, like, just starlit. Like everyone's obsessed with her and she's just like an icon, like Dolly Parton level. But in Thailand now I'm thinking when she says that because she's like, oh, the movies are not that good. Which ones? I wonder. I'm like, is she? Because we had that comment from um, Victoria that like, all actresses are basically just prostitutes. And so I'm like, maybe Suala is a prostitute. Maybe she's a lady. Boy, maybe it was some adult films and maybe she's super popular for those. But maybe like they are maybe their corny adult film. Like that's kind of where my mind went at first ca because I was like, when she says, like, why would you say if you're like this huge, well known actress, why would you say your own work is not that good? And all I can think of is that it's like, maybe not something that you would be like super proud of. And then I'm like, okay, well maybe she has like a. Cause she seems very buttoned up, very formal, very classy. So I'm just like, okay, well maybe she had a very interesting past and was like a sex worker or something. Um, I don't knowuse I'm just wondering why else she would say that. Like now I really want to know what movies did she do and why does she think they're not that goodus? I would have assumed that they were like, you know, big hits that everybody loved that were like amazing. But now she's saying they're not that good. So I'm like, well, what kind of actress are you? Who are you? And then Rick asks to have another meeting Withala, but in her house so that Steve can see her in her habitat. And she seems really confused. I feel like this is not that wild of a question because I'm sure directors do have meetings with some actors in their Homes, especially if it's something where they want the actor to play a role that's very similar to themselves. I don't think that that's like that crazy of a suggestion. Apart from she has no idea who these people are. That would freak me out a little bit. But I don't think the request for an actress such, uh, as herself, I don't think that it should seem so confusing. But she seems like, really confused. And she's like, he wants to meet me in my habitat. Ah, so she just seems confused. And I'm also confusedus. What kind of actress is she? Why are the movies bad? What movies were they? I'm confused. What is her backstory? Who is she? So we cut to the rat lifs at the temple. Piper goes in to talk to Luang Portira and starts crying. And everybody was saying it seems like she's like a 12 year old, even though she's like 21, and that she shouldn't be crying that easily when just talking to someone. Like, the first person we see that she talks to, that's like not her family. But I don't think that's fair to say because, like 21, you're still young. Like Victoria already said, she's like a very sheltered, rich white girl from the South. Like, she's. She hasn't got now much. Okay. So for her, this is probably a pretty big deal. And obviously she feels very, uh, strongly about it, so it's understandable. And also, if it was me and my parents were acting that way, I would also probably start crying because I would be like, this is not how I wanted to start my meditation Buddhism journey. But here we are. My parents have to sign off on it. Like, I'm a 10 year old with a permission slip for a freaking school field trip. But I kind of understand why she was crying. But people were like, she's acting like a 12 year old. And then I'm like, well, I think it's kind of fair because a lot of it just sucks and she probably has bottled up a lot inside. Um, also considering that Victoria basically barely pays attention to her own daughter except to yell at her when she wants to go do something on her own. So, I mean, they don't exactly have the greatest relationship. But I was just thinking we still really don't know anything about her and why she feels so strongly about Buddhism and moving to Thailand. We really don't know, like, what has happened to her. What is her backstory? Why does she feel so strongly about doing this? Like, we don't really know why, but she feels that everything is pointless. Um, and she tells him that your books have really helped me get through some really bad days. And basically that she just needs her parents to come talk to him. So Mooc sees Guy Talk right as he's about to go into the Ratl Lips Villa to try and steal the gun back finally. I think they're supposed to go on a date after this, like after Gyak finishes at the gun range. Also, what do we think mooc's story is? Because she doesn't really have connections to anyone else in the story except Guy Talk, I guess same with Guy Talk, except for he has, like, he's spoken a lot with Fabian and Stala and the other security guards. So Guai Talk has had a lot more like, interactions that we've witnessed. Mooc, it's been just with Guyt Talk. So we don't really know anything about her, like, what her story is. I personally still feel she's connected to the robbery. So I feel that there's like, a lot of dynamics with the staff that we don't know yet. I'm really interested to figure out what still. Who was behind the robbery? I still think it was Valentine. And I think it's pretty easy to guess that the other two were probably Alexi and Vlad. I don't think that's, you know, that outrageous to assume so. I think it was Valentine, Alexi and Vlad behind the robbery. But then it just makes me wonder, like, but maybe Mooc was in on it too, Or I'm just getting her wrapped up in it for no reason. I just can't put my finger on her, like, what is her. What is her deal? Or she's just simply, simply working. She just simply goes to work and just does her own thing and has like, a work boyfriend. And her work boyfriend won't leave her alone and stop asking her for dates. That's probably as simple as it is, and we're making it out to be something that it's not. So Saxon sits down at the pool next to Chelsea and, uh, seriously, Patrick's acting is so funny this episode. Like, he really impressed me with his acting. Um, um. But he can't help himself. And he asked. He has to ask Chelsea why she wouldn't hook up with him. Then she says, once you've connected with someone on a spiritual level, you can't go back to cheap sex. Hooking up with you would be an empty experience. Ooh. Oo. That hurts more than just like, ew, I don't like you. Hooking up with you would be an empty experience. I'm using that. I'm using that. And he's like, how would you know that? And she's like, because I know. Because you're soulless. And then he's just sitting there, like. And then she just whispers to herself, sad. O. I think that might be the filthiest read I've ever seen on tv. Just so effortless, so nonchalant. Just. It would be an empty experience because I know. Because you're soulless. Sad. Ice cold. Ice cold. Um, but it seems like the first time that Saxons really had to, like, take a rejection that harsh, which wasn't even, like, yelling harsh. Just like the words cut. And he had to really sit there for a second and be like, godd, damn, what the fuck? We see him just like, Saxon's having, again, a rough day. Tim goes in to talk to Luang Portira. And Luang says, many young people go to Thailand from the US Maybe because of spiritual malaise. Um, he says, maybe like a lost connection with nature, with the family, lost connection with the spirit. What's left? The self identity. You can't outrun pain. Tim is like, yeah, but you can hide from it in Thailand, because that's what I think he's going toa do. Or he's definitely leaning in this conversation to, like, taking himself out for sure. He's like, feeling very affirmed in his, you know, self taking out decision. Um, so Tim asks, what do you think happens when we die? Luang tells him a really nice water droplet metaphor that I really liked that he was like, once you get or, uh, you're born, you're like a water droplet that separates and goes up in the air. You get older, the water droplet comes back down, and then you join back in with the rest of the water and no more separated, no more suffering. Death is a happy return, like coming home. And Tim's probably the worst person right now to say. To say that too. Death is like a happy return, like coming home. Tim's like, you got it. I'm taking myself out. He's like, damn, that sounds pretty good right about now. Still know that was like, the wrong person to tell that too. However, I do like the metaphor in general. I do like that idea of what happens when you die or when you're born or what happens when you're not consciously alive. So the girlfriends are at the pool. Kate is like, one person's fake is another person's good manners. And I'm like, is that in reference to you? You know what I mean? Like, uh, I think that's just in reference to her because I'm like, okay, speak for yourself. Speak for yourself. Um, then Jacqueline's like, hey, what are you guys talking about? And Kate still wants to bury it, of course. She's trying to keep the peace. She doesn't want to be ratted out. She doesn't want to cause issues. She just wants to resume her girl'trip But Lori says they know about Valentine. Jacqueline's like, you know what? Anyways, Lari, who? She gets a bit mean. She gets a bit mean. I support it, but she gets a bit mean. She's like, she's poking the bear. She's poking the bear. So she's like, so what, you and Harrison have an open relationship or something? O. I mean, they probably do. Laie probably clocked it. She's probably right. Side note, Jacqueline literally looks like a middle schooler, don't you think? I feel like she looks like she just woke up from, like, a nap in eighth grade. Then Laurri orders them three margaritas. Kate's like, no, no, no, I don't want one. And Lari smacks Kate and says, shut up, Kate. Have a drink, for fuck's sake. Whoa. Okay, Laurri. And then Lari throws Kate under the bus by saying, like, okay, well, Kate saw Valentine coming out of your room. And then she's like, o. We're still the same people we were in the 10th grade. Which is, uh, obviously quite a theme with the season as well. Like, that people are. This might seem like they change over time, but really deep down, they are just the same people they were like as a kid. So we're back at the temple. Victoria's talking with Piper. She says she'll agree, or at least she will keep her mouth shut if Piper can stay at the temple for one night. And then Piper can't even do it. Because, like, you'd really think if Piper is so dead set on staying there for a literal year by herself, that I thought this was very clever of Victoria, actually, because it is a great way to get someone to shut up, to say, like, okay, then do it. I'm not agreeing with it, but, like, okay, then do it, and then I'll shut up. So Victoria was like, okay, fine, I'll shut up. If you can stay here for one night by yourself. I've seen how they live, and it is not like your creature comforts that you're used to. So Piper can't even do it, though. Like, she should have just been like, okay, period. I'mn toa go ask if I can stay. She's like, ah, uh, okay, so you want me to ask if I can stay then? And then Lahlin volunteers to stay there with Piper. Uh, I'm like, laughan, get out. Get out. So, of course Piper's like, oh, God, thank you so much. Like, I need you to stay with me. Yes, please. Thank you. So we know that now Laughan will be with Piper. I'm scared. I'm scared. So we see Rick talking with Frank. Rick asks Frank for his help, and Frank says he's trying to lead a different life there. And if it's not supposed to get messy, then why did Rick ask for the gun? And Rick's like, I won't even use it. I won't even bring it. I won't even bring it. I just need you to help me out. So they agree if Rick doesn't bring the gun, and then we can all rejoice because Guyalk finally did something right. He, uh, finally went into the villa. Perfect timing. No one was there. No one saw him go in. And he found the gun very quickly. And I'm wondering if it's like that collective conscious consciousness, like the ocean, maybe, that Luang Portira was talking about. Like, is it the collective consciousness that told him which drawer to open? Because he just, like, picked one out of what? 1, 2, 3, 4 out of 20 drawers. He just picked the right one on the first try. So is it the collective consciousness that drove him, or was it just luck? We don't know. But it would be nice to think if it was like, some Buddhist collective consciousness that led him to pick the right drawer. So he gets the gun. Finally, we can rejoice. Guytak has done something right. He passes Victorian Tim, but they don't notice him. And I'm like, well, duh. Uh, because they're like, in their own rich person aloof, la la land Lorazepam freaked out about Buddhist temple s land. And to them, you're just staff. And they think nothing of it. So he's all like, I'm passing them. And he like. I'm like, put on a little poker face here, buddy. You look like a scared dog, like, hiding in a corner. So obviously they don't notice him. He gets by without a hitch. He's. He's got the gun. We're good. Yay. Guy talk. He shows Pec the gun in the nick of time. It was pretty sketchy, though, because Pec was like, I thought the gun was stolen. Like, where's the gun? And guy talks like, just had it on me, slick. He got real lucky. He got real lucky. So back with Victoria and Tim. They just entered the villa right after guyt talk left. Victoria is pissed at Tim. She needs to fear poverty. Tim, like everyone else we know. Honestly, I don't know if I'd want to live. And that sound is going viral on TikTok right now, where she's like, at my age, I'm just not meant to live an uncomfortable life. I don't know if I'd want to live. Okay, same. But also, like, Tim's sitting, like, sweating bullets. Like, what do you mean? What do you mean you wouldn't want to live? Like, o, uh, you don't say that. And then he's like, maybe. Maybe it would be a good thing for Piper. Like, maybe our kids shouldn't be so reliant on, like, the creature comforts of life. Like, maybe they should be a bit resilient. And Victoria is like, no, no. Like, they need to fear poverty. And Tim's like, I'll be. Would it be so bad? Would it be so bad? And then I'm really still thrown off by this. That, like, Victoria just starts putting on hand lotion and then she just starts, like, whiffing her perfume and she's likemm. I like my sense grass tuberoero. And I know there's a lot of, like, Bible and religious themes, so I'm like, I still don't really know. I'm like, do grass and tuberoero have, like, biblical meetings? I don't know. So then we cut back to Saxon on the pool loungers with Chelsea. And I just thought it was so funny that he is, like, absolutely blasting his. Like, this is like such like, uh, a. Like if a girl could pick out an ick for a guy, it's like a seemingly innocuous thing. It's not like that big of a deal. He's just spraying sunscreen on his calves. But the way that he is just absolutely blasting his calves of a sunscreen. First of all, he has the sperries on, which are suede or leather. So if you get a bunch of oily sunscreen on it, it's not go goingna come out very easily. That's the first thing I thought of. Second of all, I was like, who's still wearing Sperries in 2025? Third of all, I was like, he has no. I mean, of course he doesn't, because of course he doesn't. But he has no, like, concern for anyone around him that he's just spraying up this giant, big cloud of, like, spray sunscreen. It was so funny. I was like, that is the most, like, unaware, like, white finance dude guy thing to do is to, like, spray an obnoxious cloud of sunscreen. Oh, my God. So I also noticed Chelsea's eating an apple. Very Adam and Eve. Very. Yeah, very biblical. And then Chloe sits down next to them, and Greg Gary invited Saxon to dinner. For some reason, Greg Gary doesn't seem mad or jealous. He seems kind of turned on or something. Chelsea says, maybe he wants a threesome. And then they're like, wait, you've never had a threesome before? And Saxon's like, well, yeah, I mean, of course, but not with another guy. Uh oh, uh oh. Uh oh. Uh oh. Chhloe says, what about last night? Saxon's like, probably saving. I'm thinking this whole time in this interaction, right, that Saxon is, like, absolutely internally shitting his pants. Like, he probably feels like he's literally gonna barf, shit, and pass out all at the same time. So I'm thinking he's just probably trying to save his reputation by denying it. And then he's. And then after he tries to deny it, he's like, uh, you guys forced us to. And Chloe's like, I didn't force him to jerk you off. U. Whoa. Saxon. What do you mean? That never happened. And I still think he's just trying to deny it to, like, save face. Chelsea's face, though. Oh, my God. And then Saxon says he doesn't remember, but I think he does. He's just saying he blacked out, like I said, to save face. Clearly he's trying to do some damage control. Chloe's like, well, I didn't, so. And I'm like. During this whole interaction, I'm like, I'm scared for Chloe. I feel like Saxon is gonna kill her. I feel like he's gonna kill her. And I feel like maybe he'll kill Chelsea and Laugchhan because he can't let this little terrible secret get out and ruin his reputation when he gets back home. I mean, could you imagine? Could you imagine? So I feel like he's like, oh, great, now I've got three people that know this. Well, maybe two, because maybe Laughan doesn't remember yet that we know of. So now he's got two people in front of him that are, like, kind of laughing in his face about it. I'm terrified for them. I'm like, he's he's gonna kill you guys. Like, I'm scared for you. I'm super scared for you. In this conversation. Saxon is struggling, and then Chelsea says, God, I don't think there's a drug in the world that can make me get with my brother. Whatever. They were like, hey, everyone has their thing. Like, we don't judge. And Saxon's like, it's not a thing. It's definitely not a thing. But I'm just like, he's truly going through it. Like, we also feel bad for him because, like, that is traumatizing. Like, very traumatizing. So he's like, let's just forget about it, please. He's so uncomfortable. He's, like, swatting things away. He can't even lay down. So he gets up and leaves. And as he's walking away, Chloe's like, don't forget about dinner. Bring your brother. Like, they are so unserious about the fact that he's, like, truly traumatized right now. Oh, my God. So let me see the girls talking M. And now Lari wants to go to Muay Thai. Um, and now she's antagonizing Jacqueline about Valentine, and she is, like, claws out. I can't really blame her. But she's, like, mean Lari now. Like, she was fun, like, silly goofy. And now she's like, aw, no. Bit lawyer. Lari is coming out to play, and I'm gonna call you on your shit, okay? And then Jacqueline's like, fuck off, Laurri. And then she walks away, and Kate's like, uh, why are you antagonizing her? And then Lari says to Kate, look, I'm not like you. Sometimes I just have to be honest. Oh. She's like, Kate got caught in the crossfire. Like, oof. Damn. Laurri is out. So now Jacqueline is getting pissed off talking to Kate because they all go back to their rooms. And then, you know, Kate joins up with Jacqueline in their side of the villa, and Jacqueline is gaslighting as if she doesn't. Gossip Girl, girl, shut the fuck up. So back at the temple, Piper and Laughan are in a meditation session. Luang says, let's shut down our monkey mind. Which is very fitting for the show. But also, that is, like, a common saying I've heard in, like, therapy is like, you have kind of, like, a monkey mind, which is kind of like instinctual mind or, like, your subconscious mind that you don't really have any control over. It's just kind of like a monkey mind like you. It's annoying. It's not aligned necessarily with who you are as a person. It's just kind of there. So let's quiet. Let's shut down our monkey mind. And then now we see the flashbacks from Lochlin's point of view. Okay, so do we think he is only just remembering now? This goes back to the thing I was proposing in the beginning. Like, did he truly not remember in the morning? And then now when he's in this meditation session, now he's just remembering. I think that's most obvious, but there is 100% a possibility that he knew exactly what he was doing this whole time. And now he just has a quiet moment that it's coming back up for him. And maybe he's feeling some guilt about it, even though he, like, intentionally did it. Maybe. Maybe. Um, but I think what's more likely is that he genuinely didn't remember in the morning. And during this meditation session, it's coming back up and he's like, holy fuck, what the hell happened? Like, now it's kind of making sense. Why Saxon, like, couldn't even look at him the whole morning? And why Saxon, like, didn't even speak a word to him? And Lochian was just like, bye. And Saxon's, like, based on his face, though, it. It feels like he's worried someone can read his mind. It's like he's looking around. And I'm not totally throwing out the idea that there is some possible, like, astral plane, astral projection, mind reading capabilities going on. I don't think that's super possible, but I'm not counting it out. Okay? Anything can happen. So maybe Piper can read his mind in some way. Maybe. Just saying. But the way he's looking around is being like, oh, my God, what if someone saw my memories right now? Like, that would be up. So anyways, he does seem pretty torn up about it in this moment. So I'm gonna go ahead and assume that he didn't remember in the morning, and then he's only just remembering now and feeling, like, really grossed out about it. So apparently, guyalk is a good shot. Question, like, does he have experiences with guns or. No. Like, PC is like, hey, pretty good for your first time. Like, what? Where did you get that skill from? And then he says, everyone likes Skytalk, but he also has to be fierce. And he's like, do you have a killer instinct? And guy talks like, I think so. That's not the answer for a question like that. It's a yes or no question. If you're a security guard, it has to be yes. Or you're just not cut out for the job guy Tuck. Sorry. Even though he's just a hotel security guard also. And then Greg Gary pops out of the bushes to scare Belinda and invite her to his house for dinner. That's terrifying. That's terrifying. I'm gonna have nightmares about Greg Gary popping out of the bushes to, uh, very intimidatingly invite me to his house, like, or else. You know what I mean? There was, like, an under hint of like, or else. Like, you should probably show up or I'm probably going to keep coming back to this resort and keep harassing you. He says, I think we should talk. Okay. So everyone is hypothesizing that he is gonna pay off Belinda so that she doesn't call the cops, and so then she uses that money to start her spot. I think that's pretty likely because I think if Greg is gonna kill someone, I don't think it's gonna be Belinda. I don't think he has enough motivation to kill her. If she can be paid off. If she can be paid off. If she can't be paid off, then, you know, her outlook is not looking so good. But I think if she can be paid off, like, I don't think he's planning on taking Belinda out, you know? And then Tim has another daydream about what would happen if he took Victoria and himself out. Ugh. Just not pleasant. Clearly, he's going through it. I mean, obviously, But I'm still confused. Like, is he still high off Larrazepam this entire time? Like, what happened to the bottle of Larrazepam? I still. I still want to know what happened to that. And then Saxon comes in the door and he's like, hey, I got invited to the dinner party, but you don't look so good. Like, maybe we shouldn't go. And then Tim says, locker and Pipeline. And he doesn't even seem to know or, like, notice that he switched their names up. And Saxon's like, locker and Pipelin. And Tim's like, m. Just M. Like, no one's home. No one's home. Ah. And then the last scene of the episode, we see Rick and Frank pull up to Jim and Sritala's house. Beautiful, beautiful house. And then we see them walk in, and we just see a glimpse of Jim walking down the stairs, but we don't get a clear shot of him. And then we just see from Rick's point of view, Rick seeing Jim. Oh, uh, the cliffhanger that we are left on. So I Wish that the episode was gonna come out right now because I don't want to be left on this cliffhanger. But anyways, so that was the episode, and. Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. That is crazy. So what are we thinking? Lo Razepam? Where is it? I'm thinking, hey, Saxon has plenty of motive to kill Laughan, first of all, for doing that to him. We still have been tossing around the, like, will he. Won't he put a poison fruit in the smoothie and feed it to Achan? I think that's more of a red herring. I don't think that will really happen. Um, but Saxon has motivation to kill a lot of people right nowm. Um, Tim doesn't know that the gun is gone yet, so I don't know if Tim what he's gonna do when he realizes the gun is gone. I don't think his first assumption will be that guy talks, stole it back. I think his first assumption will be that someone in their family took it and that he's gonna start getting paranoid that, like, maybe someone knows that he messed up. Like, I don't know. I think he's gonna get extra paranoid. Or maybe he will somehow figure out that guyalk took it back and, like, he'll. I don't know. I really don't know what he'll think. Um, I'm thinking Victoria is gonna get more and more unhinged the more that she's having lorazepam withdrawals and freaking out about her family's reputation and Piper. Um, I think Lachhlin is gonna do something inappropriate with Piper, even though I really don't want it to happen, but it's just looking like that might be the case. Oh, I really hope not. But I actually have a feeling that Piper's gonna stay there that night. And I think Victoria's gonna be right and that Piper's gonna be like, oh, wait, actually, this kind of sucks. I don't think I can do it for an entire year because she is used to her creature comforts and doesn't realize how much she relies on them. So I think Piper is actually going to be having second thoughts about going for the program, but she's probably not going to want to admit defeat right away. So I don't think she's going to admit to Victoria right away that she probably won't like it, but I have a feeling she won't like it. Let's see, what else. I don't know if Rick is go. Going toa shoot Jim. I. I really don't know what's going to go on with that situation. I'I have no clue. Um, but I can't wait until Rick finally gets back to Chelsea so they can, like, catch up on what each other has missed. But I'm also worried that what if they don't get back to each other? I'm very nervous about that. Obviously, Belinda needs to be worried. I hope Belinda and porn TR just, like, live happily ever after. I'm really shipping them right now. Some people were saying that, like, it seems like Zion was straight, but I'm like, no, he. I thought he was gay and I thought that's why it was easier for him to, like, not care that, like, not be so affected by the fact that Belinda was still in bed with porn chy when he arrived. So not that it really matters, but I don't. Yeah, I don't know how Zion is reallynna fit into the story so far, except that we know that between now of him basically, like, being at breakfast with Belinda between then and episode eight, he will eventually end up at a session with Amrita and there will be guns going off. That's really all we know about Zion so far. Don't know much about mooc. I really don't know how her character is going to continue playing into everything. We know that Fabian will be performing at the restaurant. I don't know how many people will will actually show up for it. We know Guy Talk is going to go on a date with mooc. I think, um, I'm thinking that should still be happening. So I don't know, maybe they will actually be lovevers for some reason. I'm feeling like MOOC doesn't actually like, I talked that much, but I could be wrong. Sobe maybe he will really prove himself as a security guard and that will win MOOC over and maybe they will be happily ever after. The girlfriends. I think that o yeah, I think. I mean, Laurri is fully gloves off. I don't think she's putting the gloves back on for the remainder of the trip. U um, and it's not looking so good because Jacqueline is being extremely defensive about it. If Jacquelyline had just, like, admitted it right away and been like, oh, yeah, like, uh, I'm sorry, like, yeah, but it just kind of. We just were like, both feeling each other and I just had Valentine over. Like, I think if she had been more upfront about it, Laurie would have at least respected it more. But it's the fact that, like, I don't know. Also Laurie had whispered in Valentine's ear, and it's almost like they seemed like they were gonna hook up. But then Valentine came over to Jacqueline, and also they had each other's numbers. So at some point in the dayash night that they were together partying, they had exchanged numbers. And I know people were freaking out that Valentin, the night before and last episode left the door open when he came over. But then I noticed in the morning when he was leaving, the door was closed. Is that just an editing error? I don't think so. Because I think in a show like White Lotus with Mike White that there are no simple editing errors like that. So I think maybe they had visitors, other visitors in the night that they didn't know about. Like, maybeex and Vlad did raid through their stuff, or I'm reading into the door being open and closed way too much. I don't know. It feels like everything is an Easter egg. It's hard to know what to pay attention to. And, yeah, so I think Laurri is gonna be fully gloves off. I do have to respect Kate a little bit for being, like, trying to keep the piece a little bit because she also. I listens to her in the most recent official White Lotus podcast for episode six, and she said for Kate's character, like, I didn't even notice this. She said, like, Kate, as a person, like, wants to be the type of person to feel super well traveled and to be able to go home and say, like, oh, yeah, I went to Thailand. When in realdity, she, like, never left this super westernized fancy resort and never actually did anything, like, culturally significant in Thailand. She just basically sat on a beach or a pool chair and, like, sat in a villa. So she wanted her character to feel, like, very westernized and not very culturally aware and not very open. So she actually never ate any Thai food in character as Kate and never had any ice in any of her drinks and never any cocktails and only had, like, a glass of rose. So those are the types of things that, like, they are getting down to, like, the little tiny details of, like, how would this character act and behave? And it's not like some secret, but it is kind of cool that they'd take it even down to that level that they're like, no. Like, this character, Kate in specific, for example, would be so scared of, like, the water there that she wouldn't even want ice in her drink of fear of, like, getting sick from it. And she wouldn't want to try, uh, you know, Thai food because it's not like, American Food. So she just had like boiled chicken and vegetables and fruit the whole time. So it's those kind of things that they even put that much thought and detail into. And Kate was saying that her character, like, very much didn't like Valentine in the sense that she was getting annoyed that he was kind of ruining their girls trip. Which I'm like, her anger is kind of misplaced because it should really be that she's frustrated with Jacqueline or that she should have a more honest one on one conversation with Jacqueline if that's the way she's feeling. Because Jacqueline was clearly the catalyst behind the whole day. And it is normal for girls to rally behind a girlfriend if she's feeling a bit stressed about her relationship or something. But Jacqueline didn't even admit that it was anything truly stressing her out. But it was just, it was very obvious because she's like, we're young, we can still party. Like, we need to have fun today. And if my friend randomly started doing that, I'd be like, girl, do you want to talk for five minutes? Like, anything on your mind? Do you need to tell me? So I find it interesting that they're supposedly like such close friends, but all they do is gossip about each other. And they never have any, like, true heart to heart conversations with each other. It's all very surface level still. Um, and I mean, like Laurie saidt on the pool loungers, like, they're all the same people that they were still in 10th grade and nothing has changed. So they all probably still act very immature and don't actually have that great of a friendship other than they've been friends for a long time. Uh, what else am I thinking of? I mean, so it does sound like they're gonna go to the Muay Thai fight, but unless they meand their friendship a little bit before then, uh, they all left on kind of a sour note when Laie was like, jacqueline Valentine will be there. And then Kate got annoyed at Laie for antagonizing Jacqueline. And then Kate left. Well, Jaclyline said, fuck off, Lori, and walked away. And then Kate was like, see you at 7. And she walked away. So they're all, the girls are fighting. The girls are fighting. So I'm just thinking like, when they meet up at 7 to go to Muay Thai, uh, that feels a bit awkward. And I feel like they're just gonna use the guys to even further fuel their, like, little girl hatred towards each other for the day. But yeah, I'm still trying to figure out, like, if the Russians really are robbers? Are they running some, like, long, elaborate scheme? Are the staff involved in the schemes that, like, Greg and Chhloe are pulling? Maybe. I don't know. M. And do I. What do I think Greg is gonna do with all these people at his house? Because he's just inviting everyone. So I don't know. I guess we will see. But I'm very excited for the next episode. I'm also kind of scared. But, guys, we have two episodes left. Oh, I'm so excited. So let me know your theories, and thanks for watching. Thanks for listening, and I will see you in the next episode. Bye.