Social Media vs Reality 👀 The Truth Nobody Wants to Admit | Independent Thinkers Ep. 5

What you see online isn’t always real… and in this episode, we’re breaking it ALL down.
On Episode 5 of Independent Thinkers, we dive deep into the gap between social media and real life — the fake lifestyles, the pressure to look perfect, and how it’s really affecting people behind the scenes. From viral moments to real-world consequences, this conversation gets raw, honest, and unfiltered.
If you’ve ever questioned what’s real vs what’s just for the internet… this one is for you.
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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Yo yo, what's up? It's your boy G. Your boy Kelly. We back with episode number five. I'm sorry, it's been a month, y'all. We've been kind of busy, man. Kelly, life been life, bro.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Life been life like a motherfucker, bro.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

So we we decided um we just gonna chill out and uh we're gonna we're gonna start the month of April on the right track. It's been a lot going on, Kelly. It's been a lot going on. Um so we're gonna start this up today's episode is about uh social media reality versus actual reality. But we're gonna start the first 10-15 minutes with catch-up time, just you know, hot topics, hot takes, questions that need to be asked. Kelly, how your life been?

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Shit, my life been good. You know, my son just had a birthday. His birthday was the 31st of March, which is another reason why this shit was so hectic, you know what I'm saying? Um my birthday is tomorrow. By the time the episode drops, it'll be passed, though.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

But happy early birthday, my boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

I appreciate that. But yeah, working, trying to save money up, you know, playing these parties and stuff, you know, getting ready for the this year. But same old, same old. What about you?

SPEAKER_02 1:09

I was brought just been chilling, bro. Getting ready for football season. Um, I got a couple interviews coming up. Shout out to uh shout out to uh Mr. Uh damn, what his name is I can't even remember his name. Damn, Ron Don Otto Cala. I'll be on his show. I'll be on his show uh Friday. Um but I've just been, you know, pumping out content, doing my street content, um, all through the type of stuff, man. I've just been uh just everywhere, bro. You see that video I posted with uh with the with the dudes I asked sucking dicker, you won't gonna die?

SPEAKER_04 1:34

Yeah, what the fuck was that? What the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Bro, okay, so listen, bro, I'm gonna tell you this, bro. So we was we was we we always do that type of stuff downtown, me and G1. Shout out boy G1. So we decided to take it to Lava because it was Friday, you know, and we needed to shoot some content. So we was like, okay, instead of doing downtown, we're gonna do lava. So we leave lava and go to Wawa. We had to ask every we hadn't asked everybody outside lava that same exact question, and it was no issue. So we go to the gas station. Now, mind you, I'm not from O'Cala, so I don't know who you know the goons are. I don't know none of that. So we we asked the people at the gas station. We didn't ask plenty of people at the gas station. So then we leave, we we walking across to go ask the police officers. And the the dudes, like, they flagging us, like, you know, pull up on it. So we pull up. They happen to be on camera.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

And they call you over there.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Yeah, they call us over. So they happen to be on camera. G wanna ask them a question, like, it you know, bro, like, where the hell you got that from? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

And it's just like escalated from now.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Escalated from now. Um, I feel about it. I do think, like, you know what I'm saying, you we do need to be respectful to our OGs. Yes, we do. But at the same time, dog, if you didn't want to, you know what I'm saying, just be like, bro, you know what I'm saying? I don't know I don't want to talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

I was just gonna say that that's that's one of the questions. That's the age question. You gotta ask like, I'm gonna say my I'm 35. I wouldn't got mad at that question. But because OGs, they different. So that shit. That shit went left as fuck. I'm like, damn, like what the fuck? They could have said, okay, but we're not be answering that and left alone, but I can't tell nigga oh no G's. You can't try everything.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Nah, you can't, but at the same time, though, you know what I'm saying, like I understand they, you know, they was, they would, they, you know, they were they was they were not sober. Nobody was sober. Yeah. But it is a specific way you need to react to certain things because it is triggers for other people, you know what I'm saying? And you like G1 stood his ground.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

I'm so happy he's still on business and the question. Like, I I expect to stand on business with a question. I feel like he could, I feel like he could apologize like my bad, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

100%. That's why I was like Brooke Moon, you know what I'm saying? It's getting too sick.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

But I respect him for standing on business. I gotta I gotta expect him to stand on business. He's still on business.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

I ain't gonna buy it. No, bro, he ain't he ain't, bro. He ain't. But we all cool now. We done talked about it. It's all good. The OG's good with the video, you know what I'm saying? I I pin uh peanuts business underneath the the real. The real got 200,000 views, so you know what I'm saying. It's it's it's nice, but that bitch did do numbers, though. I bet it did. That bitch is gonna go left. It did numbers, I ain't gonna lie to you. But bitch went left. But that like, well, people understand, but people don't understand, but that's the content game, though. Like I tell like people like, oh, you're gonna get hurt doing this. Oh, you're gonna do that. Okay, so let me ask you this. What is the difference from me doing that, right? Than motherfuckers that's in the war zone for CNN. That's in that's on the front line of the wars. No difference. Get getting getting the inside scoop. You know, somebody has to do it. It ain't for everybody. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's not everybody's lane. Yeah. And at the end of the day, I understand like people take criticism and people people like people have criticism and you're gonna critique things, and that's a part of the engagement. So that's why I tell people, I don't mind if if you critique my content. Or you or you have long, whatever you comment, long as it's not disrespectful to anybody, you know what I'm saying? And it's in a joking and playful manner, or whatever you may feel, your opinion is your opinion. Because I'm a very opinionated person. But at the same time, a lot of people, we speak on things and we don't know what we're talking about. Even myself. I speak on a lot of shit that I don't know nothing about. But what I what I be trying to tell people, bro, at the end of the day, we live in a world where everybody's doing the same thing. That same question, bro. I swear to God, has been asked over a thousand times. I've seen those videos before.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

So I know that question answered before.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

So like people just like, oh, why would you ask a grown man that? Why would you do that? Bro, it's it's it's piggybacking off of other creators. It's motherfuckers in Chicago, in a dangerous city in America, that has asked the same question to said gangsters. Yeah. And they like, man, watch out, bro. Guys clutch and holding, you know what I'm saying? But bruh had enough balls, enough courage, and and and and and the the the he had the ability to say, man, you know what? Fuck this, I need this content. Yeah. Like, people don't understand the extent that some people will go to make themselves uh stick out over other people, is not because they want to, they're chasing cloud. It's not because they, oh well, um he just wanted to be famous. No, no, no, no. They they want to stick out. This is a job.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

And my thing is this, um, if it didn't work, y'all wouldn't watch it. Bro! So I mean Hey, no video can't get no traction if y'all don't watch it. People watch people.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

If you don't watch the video, it cannot get no traction.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

You watch and you comment on it, you do exactly what why don't you do too much?

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Exactly. I'm getting you doing exactly what I what I like. Negative good.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

Any publicity is good publicity.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Exactly. Same thing people say, like, oh well, why do you why why why do you why do you bring up drama, right? Let's talk about birch wood. Yeah, perfect.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Yeah, go ahead and talk about birch wood.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Some people feel like I clout chase off of the local stories. All right, and when I cover certain things, like a lot of people said I was clout chasing about the whole Birchwood thing. Do you feel like I clout chase?

SPEAKER_01 6:25

No, I'm gonna tell you why you I don't feel like clout chasing because you brought the Facebook. I feel like once stuff gets on Facebook, that's everybody's business. You know what I'm saying? So people can't get mad at you for talking about something that's already people talking about already. Only the only difference you can do is you made a video about it. But people are already talking about it. And hey, I want to know. Sometimes you know shit I don't want to know. I don't start following that because you don't know details that I never even got down.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Bruh, listen, all I think I do is give people uh uh ability to all come together in one particular place and talk about one particular subject that is scattered around Facebook, it's like a fucking mystery puzzle. I just put all the puzzles together so you can see it right here. But my biggest thing is that this is that this is what I have to say about that clout chasing shit. Because I've heard it so many times. We live in a small town in a small community in Central Florida where ain't none of you motherfuckers got no clout. Just because people put you on a club flyer, just because motherfuckers, uh, uh a local horny ass promoter put you on a club flyer, I'm talking for the for the for the men and the women. Whether it's whether whether it don't matter. Just because a local promoter puts you on a flyer and you go in a club and you smoke a la weed, pop a la bottle, or shake your ass, nobody fucking knows you. We don't have nobody around this bitch that has no real platform. We have a few. And and shout out to those who who do. But around this motherfucker, how am I chasing clout from you and you don't have more followers than me? How am I chasing clout from you and you don't have more engagement than me? How am I chasing clout off of you if you don't have you don't make no money for social media? You don't you don't you don't have nothing, you don't have anything per pertaining to social media. How am I chasing clout off you and you don't have no fucking clout? That is that is a fucking mental illness.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

It's like a you are fucking delusional. Like I told you, it's it's it's cool to hate you, bro. And I'm just I'm I'll start looking in. I see that. I'm like, bro, y'all hate what y'all get mad, but y'all be on the same post, comment on different posts. Picking and choosing which y'all want to like and don't like. You know what I'm saying? If it's anybody else, it's cool. But because your family member or because somebody you know, nah is a problem. But if it's anybody else, commenting there, laughing, reacting, all that shit. But as soon as we become, as soon as that shit hit home, goddamn nah's now you're you're a punk. I hate that punk shit. Listen, listen to me. I'm gonna get serious right for a minute. Okay, look. Stop using gay stuff to attach straight men. You know what I'm saying? I hate that shit. For any man, you know what I'm saying? I feel like that's that's a that's a cop-out move y'all use when y'all ain't got no intelligence to think of anything else to say. Y'all use that as a weakness. And some some people that it bothers. It bothers me, but it don't bother me. You know what I'm saying? I know what's coming from coming from a place of lack of intelligence. Y'all do that shit in his aggregate.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Bruh, it's either that or they talk about my hairline. And I'm gonna take my hat off. I want to say this. Shout out to Harvey, shout out to Harvey brand. Shout out to Harvey brand. I'm sponsored by them. Y'all go shop with them. Uh one of the world's best sellers in hats. I'm gonna say this. They talk about my hairline. Kelly my hairline for that.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

We all it's fucking genetic, bro. I can't say.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

I cannot help that my dad and that my dad's side of the family went, my great granddaddy went bald at 12. I can't help that. But let me tell you this. You can help your pockets, you can help your living situation. You can help your kids not running outside the house with dirty ass diapers on. And you can help as a man taking care of your kids, and you can help yourself as a man by getting off your ass and getting a fucking job. You can help that, male or female. I can't help this fucked up ass hairline I got. I can embrace it. But you can help your living situation and you can help yourself to get off your ass and go do what the fuck you gotta do to take care of your kids and take care of yourself as a grown-ass adult.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

And Gary, let me tell you something. You you if you was a green man, right? You can talk about their hair if you want to. But the minute you go there, talking about black woman's hair, that's gonna be a problem too. So you kind of damn. How many bitches don't have no hair? Exactly. They got the they my thumb is longer than they fucking pony jail. If you say that, that's a problem. You know what I'm saying? You can't say on me, I can't say certain things. Exactly. So it's a catch point too with that. You know what I'm saying? I don't like that. It ain't fair, but that's that's the rule of the game.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

But this is the thing is, bro, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. People get mad at me because I say stuff back. Yeah. Because I'm a petty advocate. I'm a petty advocacy, I'm a react bait. That's what I do. I'm a rage baiter. So I'm going to like this is what I'm saying. I don't give a fuck how bad you joke about me. I don't care how bad you call it, what you talk about me, what whatever. I don't give a damn, right? But you have to understand, most people have learned their lesson with me. If you don't say nothing to me, I won't say nothing back to you. But you can't pick and choose how you want me to say something. Because once you say something about me, all bets are off. I can say whatever the fuck, especially if you question my sexuality. All bets are off. I can say whatever the fuck I want to say. I can talk about your kids. I can talk about your mama. Kids crazy. Not the kids, but I'm saying I can't like I ain't gonna talk about your kids in particular. But this is one thing. When Golden Boy goes live, he talks about everybody's shit. It's funny as fuck. I don't think funny. But I'm saying it's funny. Everybody that thinks it's funny. Yeah. He brings up bitches' kids, dead mama, dead grandma. But why?

SPEAKER_01 11:04

What's the difference? They like Kimmy Poplar. Oh, okay. Like his music. All right. I'm already knowing, bro. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

All you mores go out the window.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

I'm already knowing.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

But I'll never talk about the kids. But you can't say something to me. Then when I bring you up on screen in front of 600 people, now I'm gay. Now I'm a faggot. Now I'm flat. Now I'm a lame ass nigga.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

This is what I do.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

This is my job. You gay. Talk about talk about them girls. Talk about them niggas. What niggas? What nigga put niggas on Facebook?

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Bro, I listen, bro. The last podcast I just did, I literally, I literally, I literally brung up a male. I did this on purpose. I did this on purpose. I brung up a I brought up a woman, I brought up a man. Who you think they who you think they they focused on more? The woman. And who and what they say, oh he don't talk about no male. I don't see him with a woman. I literally roll on the dude worse than I did on a woman. Yeah. Because he been saying stuff to me for the longest, but he's a f he flat. He walks to he walks to like he walks to the store. I'm not beefing with you. You got bigger issues, bro. But everybody like, oh wait, he don't talk about a woman.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Because y'all pick and choose. No, crazy, bro. I ain't I didn't like watch that live.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

He should have watched it. I was off the cut was two rounds. I was kind of like.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

I can't remember what I was doing. I think I was asleep, or I kind of missed it. But I tried to cut like a little bit of her live. I literally like went on there and went off. And you told me what we said. I'm like, huh? I'm just too late.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

You messed it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Because I want to say something, bro. Dave, get it out, bro. Go back, get it out. The only reason get it out, bro. Get it out. Don't get it out. The only reason I don't read I didn't say anything because I didn't personally see it. I didn't personally see it. But you told me you seen it. So I really want to know what the fuck made me weird. What the fuck I did to do make you weird. Like I wanna make one one thing about it. It's because you because you fuck with me. She ain't my type. You fuck with me?

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Yeah, that bitch ugly.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

She ain't my type at all. So and then I never been. I'm gonna inbox. I know I wouldn't know. But I checked anyway. I'm like, what the fuck weird come from? To me, weird is a nigga that's that's constantly like beating you inbox down or like ain't getting hit or like bitch. I ain't never talked to you damn my life. I ain't never seen you, I ain't never flirt with you, none of that shit. So I'm weird. Like, bitch, what? Weird, weird. Like you not even my type. Like, you know nothing, nothing. I went you she not something I would talk to if it was like late night and I needed no, nothing.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Nah, not at four in the morning. No, no, bro. You're lying.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

Sweet of God, she would nothing I would she would nothing I would fuck.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you. But that's why I say I mean, bro, like people, you gotta understand. That's that's we're talking about what we deal with. What we deal with here. You know what I'm saying? We're about to get into the episode, but yeah, I'm I'm saying, but that shit is crazy though. It it behooves me. But at the end of the day, you gotta understand what you're dealing with. I look at everything, people don't understand. I look at everything as content. I don't take shit seriously. Yeah, I look at everything when it's time for me to be serious, I you know I'm serious. But I look at everything as content. That's what I tell people. So when people like, oh, why are you saying we don't have the same thinking mechanism? So you're not gonna like what I resonate, what resonates with me ain't gonna resonate with you. Like, I've been on a hell of a run on Facebook the last like month. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like my like my Facebook been on fire, bro. So I I that that's that when I wake up every day that I think about what's the next viral moment, what's the next controlled viral moment? Like, I just don't people think I just do anything to go viral, but that's a lot of shit that I bel I I wrote on Facebook. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna take this shit down. Because I'm still a coach at the end of the day. So it's still a persona that I I I still have young men look it up to me. So I can't call with like you notice something on my live, I don't ever call women bitches and stuff like that. I don't ever degrade women because at the end of the day, I have young men look it up to me. I still say certain shit, but at the end of the day, like, you know, it's you have to read between the lines. I don't just degrade women. I don't, I've I've kind of toned my rhetoric down because I know the position that I hold and I know that I have people underneath me.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

My thing is I think people need to take social media away from your personal life. Social media, you and you you was too many people. I think people need to realize that.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Great topic. I'm glad you said that. So now we're gonna get into the topic of today's episode, which is social media reality versus reality. And I'm gonna give it over to Kelly. How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Alright, so for me, me for example, right? Mm-hmm. Social media, you'll think, you'll think um I was a simp. You would think I wasn't getting no bitches. You'll think you'll think all this. I honestly I go on Facebook to like make people laugh. So I say the most degrading shit about myself. You know what I'm saying? I go in there and be like, oh, my dick's more, or my I'm lonely. I make up the craziest shit, just make people laugh. You know what I'm saying? But if you knew you, you know, you know what it is, you know what I'm saying? But everybody don't know that. So I think people need to realize that Facebook, any kind of social media shit is fake. If you really knew a motherfucker was living, they they like you be like, no, this this shit is sad. Most of these happy people on people, happy social media people be miserable in life. Don't have anything, they sleep on people's couches, they ask some people for money, like they got all the bad, all the money in the world, but ask motherfuckers for money, like don't listen. Do not let social media fool y'all, because it will fool y'all if you let them do it.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

You know what, you know, you know what really pisses me off? That begging shit.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Me too.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Like, no, I understand social media is the biggest platform, and I get that. And I understand that social media helps you reach people that you you never knew in life that would help you. But bro, it was a point on social media, bro, like a couple months ago, bro. Every fucking day it was a new post about a bitch bag. Like, bitch, you don't give up and go to work. Like, at some point, like you gotta understand, like, I understand that life happens. Life happens, but this is a playground. Social media, I look at social media as a playground. So you gotta understand that when you post your situation, not everybody's gonna feel the same way about it. And some people are going to laugh. There are some people that have dark humor, like myself. I got dark humor. Me too. I'll I'll still resonate with you, but I'm like, damn, why the fuck did she just post this? Like, she ain't embarrassed. No. He ain't embarrassed. Why did he just post this? And it's like, damn, like, it's other methods in this world to get on your feet. I feel like social media has made it okay for motherfuckers to just sit back and they bro, it was a girl. But still, that shit. For example, bro, it was a girl from Gainesville who needed her license. Her license was suspended. It be needed six hundred dollars for a license, bro. What? Six hundred dollars. She got on Facebook and said, I got six, I got 40,000 followers. Everybody send me a dollar. They paid for a license, bro.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

It worked. I can't help that.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

It worked. That's not reality, though, bro. Like that's not reality, bro. I couldn't do that. Oh no. But you I couldn't do that. Well, you what bro, I'm okay. Let me let me say this. You type a post today, right now, and you say, I need help. I'm going through it. Give me the first 10 comments you think what what people are gonna say. Give me the first 10 comments. Give me the first 10 comments.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

You ain't gonna job. It's gonna be jokes about me. It's gonna be like, oh, you broke? It's it's not gonna be the serious. Like it's not gonna be serious at all.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

So you don't think people really gonna think you're broke?

SPEAKER_01 17:39

No. Like I said, if you know, you know. If I go in there and be like, if I go on and play with like, um, I need this, please send me a cash up this, blah, blah, blah. People are going to not give money. People are gonna laugh, like, what the fuck you got going on?

SPEAKER_04 17:52

What if it's me?

SPEAKER_01 17:53

Huh?

SPEAKER_04 17:53

What if it's me? What if I do?

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Oh, bitch, they're gonna be on your in your ass. They're gonna be in your ass. Like, what the fuck? You talking all this shit about women on one job. You got so many girls that come out of woodwork on your ass. So many, so many simps on YouTube. That's nothing to talk about too, these fucking sims.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Okay, so when you talk about sims, right? Do you think like I'm a simp. But are you a social media sim or you a real life sim?

SPEAKER_01 18:15

I'm a real life sim. I am a social media sim. So I'm I'm glad you went there. I'm glad you went there. Probably like a day ago. That nigga was lying his fucking ass off. It was something that zip shared. Something as shared from O'Cala. Like something about him and mine giving a girl $100 or something. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_02 18:33

I know you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

All this nigga is lying his ass off.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

I called him a picnic.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

He's he's a picnic, yes. He was that he was that listen. What was the problem?

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Oh, okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

From from what I remember that post, I'm trying to I'm trying to remember exactly what was said. You remember exactly what was said?

SPEAKER_02 18:45

He was like, he gave every girl a hundred dollars a month.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

He's fucking lying. He's fucking lying. He come from I'm a paymaster.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

God damn, just open it up and just say you're like for girls I like.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

I'm gonna pay that for girl I like.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

I'm not gonna just give no random girl $100 just because like I'm I gotta be already fucking with your for me. Bitch, what no? He is lying, he's not he's not doing that for real. I don't I don't know who he is for real. But I know he's not doing that.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

So you feel like everything gotta be transactional?

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Yes, everything is transactional.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

So if you giving a woman money, she gotta come up off that ass.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

I ain't saying that. I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

I I I am. I'm looking at the camera and say this.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

If I am giving you money, you are fucking. I don't care what you say. If all you call it prostitution, ostitution, law illusion, whatever, huh? How much money? You gotta think, bro. I ain't just gonna come out and just like pay for it.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Like, I'm asking how much money goes.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

Babe, if you see this, this ain't got to do this this back in the day, right? This ain't got nothing to do. I ain't doing this right now. If, okay, if I meet a woman, right? We're talking about social media versus reality. Yeah. If I text a woman on social media, first of all, I'm looking at, I'm I'm I'm going through a picture and looking at her lifestyle, right? I need to go see what type of lifestyle she has. Because I need to see if I can if I can afford this shit. Yeah. So I need to see, I need to see the places that she go. I need to see the people that she hangs around. If she hangs around broke bitches, nine out of ten times she's probably broke too. So I could I can lowball. I love that. I can lowball that. I love a hangar broke motherfucker because I know bottle of bottle, a bottle of uh liquor, some food, I'm there. Nail doing I'm in there. Yeah. But if she's one of them high class, always out of time, brunch type of female, then I understand I gotta come with something a little different. Yeah. So once I establish what type of female I'm dealing with, that I know what my approach is gonna be. Right? So if I'm you know, if I'm dealing with, let's say I'm dealing with a high class. Hey, good afternoon, beautiful. You on my mind. I think I'm gonna buy you some lunch today. Send up some lunch money. Boom. How much money are you sending for lunch?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Me personally, about $25.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

I know fucking way, Kelly.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

I thought you got $25.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

What did she say? This ain't enough.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

I never heard that before.

unknown 20:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

So how much you send for lunch? $50.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

My girlfriend, yeah, but I think $20, $25 to $30 is reasonable.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

No, I'm saying for anybody. I'm saying for the even for the high class woman. You saying $25?

SPEAKER_02 20:58

It really depends on if I like her though. If I really like, I'm I really. What was the goal is to fuck this girl? Like, oh, $50. I'm going all in. I'm a gambler, bro. I'm going, I'm going all in. So after we get out, right? $50, whatever. I sent a lunch money. Now I've peaked her interest. Cause think about it. This woman probably gets 10,000 text a day, and all these niggas talking about what you doing, how you doing. I done sent her money off the strength, ain't dated her, ain't got nothing, ain't seen that person yet. So she, I've already kind of peaked her interest, right? So now I play it cool. Hey, let me know when you're busy. I mean, let me know when you're free. Let's go get let's go get dinner. So now I know I'm dealing with a high class. So now, guess what? I can't take it a Texas Lonehorn. I mean, I can't take it a Lonehorn, a Texas Roll House. I gotta take it somewhere, you know. Eddie V. Eddie V. So now that's another $300. I'm $350 in, huh? Stay with me, huh? I'm $350 in. Nah, she's full. Woo-doo woo. All right, after that, let's go get drinks. Let's go, let's go, let's go party. Whatever. That's another $120. Whatever. Now I'm $420. Now God damn. We get we we had Drinks, I get to see how she really is. I ain't trying to fuck her because I don't fuck women who drink. I don't get women drunk or or or get women lit to fuck them. No. I want to see how she really acts. I want to see if this is a fake boo jack. Because if she comes on to me and she wanna fuck, she do this often. Or sometimes she might just want to fuck me. But no, that'll tell me who I'm dealing with. So I'm you know, I'm playing it smooth. I'm gonna play it smooth. Hey, I don't want to do this. Uh I just wanna, you know what I'm saying? Let's vibe. So now I want to see how she really feels about me spending this money. Does she like me enough to say, well, you know, hey, I got the next round. I got the next round. Because now I know if she in this for the money or she actually likes me. And sometimes I've had women just, hey, keep it going. And I figured out that's that that means either two things. She's really broke for real, or she just don't like you. And I don't want either two of them situations. But if she reciprocates that second time, or even if I try to pay, she's like, nah, I got it. I got me one. So at that point, shit, it don't matter how much I done spent then. Because I know I got a good person. I know at the end of the day it's gonna be reciprocated.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

So it's um this is going on second date. We're still talking about reciprocation?

SPEAKER_02 23:09

Yeah, second date.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

I don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Alright, well, tell me why why you don't agree with it?

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Alright, so because you know when you first courting a girl, you're going date for the world. I'm not expecting her to pay anything. I'm not expecting her to recipe.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

No, I'm not, I'm not expecting her though.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Yeah, but I'm not even but even if she she if she doesn't if she doesn't like ask to pay anything, I wouldn't put into a way about it, cause I feel like she shouldn't ask the first couple times. Now, I'm gonna say for a fifth day then, now I'm kinda like, damn bitch. Alright now, we hey like on my pen, but damn. Or like what's going on? Let's say you say let's say she says, well, we ain't gotta go out of town. Let's let's go to your place, or go to my place, something like that. Something that's gonna save me some money. You know what I'm saying? I can expect a girl being like, okay, you wanna make a place, let's go my house, watch a movie or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

When you like when you when you bust your move, like when you when you make your move.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

I wouldn't heard Anthony. That's understanding. So like me personally, but I was I would stay there. I won with one girl, man. Oh wait, six months, get that pussy. What? Nigga, what the dog? Six months, bro? Six months. It wasn't like it was like Yo, that's crazy. It wasn't it wasn't like it was like a consistent system. We were talking, it was kind of like we'll talk with her, then we both were busy here, and but eventually I eventually I got it. And it was she came to my house. She came out the whole time. We was laying in bed at sleep, never tried her. One day, like she came in my house with some and she lived with some other.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

How was her presence though? Like on social media. What kind of presence? Oh, she was walking, she was a woman. Like she was like, she had a like she had shit together.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Like she was like a good one, like she wasn't the one girl talking on internet. I love those. Don't go on a little girl, but she was one of the girls that she was just had shit together. Like, she had her own place, car, all that she took a good job, all that, but she was just she was a lady. She kept on see what one of the girls are cussing on social media or none of that. So I I I respect her. So I say I I I apply pressure differently to every girl, like you say. It was the same thing. Like certain girls I treat some way and certain girls I treat differently this kind of way. I always go off of how they act. When I first meet a girl, I treat them all the same way until you show me who you is. You know what I'm saying? Once I realized money moves you, okay. So money moves her, okay, bet, bet. I'm like you. Well, I got $200, what you trying to do? Hey, I'll be like right away, bro. Shit. That shit work, bro. Like why started my other job? My um factory job was working at. Um, I worked um literally every day. So I didn't really have time to date. I couldn't date nobody because I was working every day. So like it was one girl particularly. I had no hard ass like for months. She'll never get no play. So I was like, man, fuck that shit. I'm gonna try something. So I was like, eh, man, at the point, what bill do I need to pay? She might be like, um, never inbox me at reply back to me. She was like, well, you pay the um baby dickhead bill. So so I looked at it, I ain't responding to her. She said, and then she wrote me again. Like, I looked at it, she seemed like it, and she said, So, so I'm serious, you give me a baby dickhead, I'll get my phone number, whatever. So how much it costs? And I said, She was like, um, I think it was like 115, something like that. Where the daddy at? Hold on, hold on. Oh, okay. So I'm like, once I said 115, I was like, so I looked at it again, I ain't said nothing. She's like, I'm serious, I seen right now sweat of God. So I sent it to her. I sent it to her, whatever. I got a number. This was on this had be on like a Friday. I got on her on Friday. Tuesday I was smashing. But a daycare bill?

SPEAKER_02 26:28

She fucked over a daycare bill.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

But my thing is this, I think that the daycare bill paying a daycare bill got me in the door. Because she was honestly, she was another girl had a had a good ass job, had good, had shit going together. But I think that, like you say, you got a hundred niggas in your inbox.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

What's gonna make you different?

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Let me be different.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

No, I'm saying, like, that's what they did. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying. I understand.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

That got me in the door. Me paying that daycare bill got me in the door. So I got a number with texting and shit. Oh, you cool, whatever, woo-woo. In the coming house, you know what I'm saying, you know, doing what do had to do, whatever. And we're fucking each other a long time, but then she pissed me off I had to cut her ass off.

SPEAKER_03 26:59

But she did.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

In consistency.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Oh, understandable. Yeah. You know what else fuck, you know what else whether that's social media fucking up? It got these four these tools and foes. Thinking of this shit. That thinking they shit just because they go shake their ass on Instagram and Facebook reels on stories, and now they got a they got 50 niggas that just beat down the inbox reacting to their reacting to their story, hearting their story, saying, damn, I want that. What I gotta do to get that, and all they see is ass. Listen, you're not a catch. You're not a fucking catch. I'm tired of that shit. Y'all motherfuckers will go twerk for 20 seconds, 30 seconds, taking nothing ass and tight pan. You can see a pussy print in the pan, dirty ass tampon. You got 30 niggas hearting your shit. That don't mean nothing. Them niggas are trying to fuck you. They are not trying to put you on a pedestal. A real man is gonna tell you, hey baby, take your listen, I don't need to see your ass. Put some clothes on. Let's go on a date, let's get you a business plan. You ain't gotta do this. You don't got you don't you don't have to do that. But you niggas, you thirstbuster ass niggas are fucking the game up. They're making hard for everybody. You're fucking the game up. It used to be you could text the three or four, and three or whatever, and then they'll be the coolest motherfuckers. Now, even the big bitches, the big bitch, the big motherfuckers fucking stuck up.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

They bitches all on all in bougie now, bro. Which, hey, you're not gonna love it, but it ain't gonna fly with me though.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

No, I should dead.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

No, I should deal like a motherfucker. I don't put that shit. I don't like the mean girl shit. I never like the mean girl shit. To me, men girls, you can cut off faster than the goddamn. You can be fine as hell, man. But if you have an ugly attitude, I'll cut your ass fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

How you feel about how you feel about niggas on social media? Like work real life.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Oh, niggas be capping on people like a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

So what I ain't gonna say, I ain't gonna say all niggas, but some niggas like, bro, niggas gotta niggas, bro. I see the niggas say if you work a nine to five now, you a lame ass nigga, get out the way. Bro, half of you niggas in the street don't have money. Y'all don't. Y'all are flexing with the plug money, gang. Y'all don't. Y'all don't. Nigga, when y'all can go to jail, the niggas with a nine to five be fucking y'all hoes. Always. Always. You over here on a on a on a jail car, babe. I love you. She over here getting her cheeks beat in. Dumb ass nigga.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

But the thing about it, y'all, y'all fun. Y'all, y'all for the moment. Y'all are fun. Right now, y'all, y'all pants spin, y'all buy on everything, go on trips, y'all doing all that shit. But as soon as you go to jail, she's gonna get forget about your ass. And get her and get her nigga like me. Nigga with a hard hat. I still took boots.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Bro, the thing is though, like, bruh, it's like, look, like I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about like Instagram, right? Like Instagram, bro. If you go on Instagram, but this is why I don't like this is why I use Instagram as as a as a my culture platform. I post and get the fuck off. Instagram pissed me the fuck off every time I open it because it's either a nigga or one or a woman get they on they they they fucking had a photo shoot. They they fucking rental cars. It's a fake ass. Yeah, you don't think it's real? It's fake as fuck. Like, bro, motherfuckers are renting renting fucking benzes and shit with no car. I used to think it's real.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

I used to think it's real. I'm like, damn, man, what the fuck? I be I'm out like 21, 22, seeing people my age with fucking benzes going out on a trip. I'm like, damn, how the fuck? How the fuck are you doing this? I'm way from high. These niggas fuck the whole time that's that's just a fake lifestyle they're doing. Or when girl be having old niggas that be paying for all that stuff. Never mind, I be talking. That's another topic. What? That's not a topic. Get it off your age.

unknown 30:15

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

So there's a thing now. How old you getting 26? 26. You're young.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

Yeah, I'm young as five.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Wait till you get my age. Right. But me, I'm 35. I'll be 35.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

I already know you're going.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

So I know you're going.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

You know I'm going with it, right? I already know you're going to.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

So I remember when I was your age. Oh, look, look, listen, younger you, 21.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

Talking girl my age.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

I was I was I'm a kid.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

You the shit.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

I'm a child. You was a shit. I'm a child.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

You was a shit. But I'm saying you was a shit. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

I was the same way. I ain't got, I ain't got I ain't got shit. Now, I get older now.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

I get money. I got my shit together now.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

You don't want an old bitch.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

I want an old girl. But I'm wrong because I thought. You're a pedophile. Yeah, I'm wrong about the girl 26. You're molested. You're molested. Yeah, I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

We could still tie this into social media because it all of these debates happen on social media. Yeah. Because let's go reality versus reality versus reality. A lot of older women are jealous of young women. Because the women in our generation, the women that you see now, the younger women, are having. They have themselves together. They're more put together. Think about it. You're 40. You don't, you got four kids. Your kids are older, but you don't have nothing going for yourself. Why would a man want to invest in you? You all bro, you got 40-year-old women that are competing with 23-year-old women for what? What are you competing for? You should be mentoring this young woman. You should be talking to her, sitting her down, say, don't do this, don't do that. But instead, y'all ain't in competition. A older woman can never compete with a younger woman when it comes to her looks and her elegancy. Because young is fine. Old is that's why when you see an older woman, that's natural, she always breaks the internet. You're explaining.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

God damn.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Because it ain't you don't expect for that, right? Because you don't, you expect as people get older, people don't take care of themselves. That's why you see all these older women going to get cosmetic surgery. That's why you see all these older women with BBLs. Because they're trying to look younger.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

I actually prefer a girl my age. Honestly, on your side, I prefer a girl my age.

SPEAKER_02 32:16

But why do you feel like if she have a bunch of damn kids?

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Like me. I got one, I got one child. So, and I'm 35. So most of the time, most of the time, just who's 35 got a bunch of kids, but female of my age. They have like four, three. They don't have a kid.

SPEAKER_04 32:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

You know what I'm saying? I'm just against I want two more kids. You know what I'm saying? So would I like joining somebody who's 35 or my 35, 30, whatever, and they are set in their mind that they don't want to have kids. You know what I'm saying? I'm not finna, I'm not finna, I'm not finna give no woman who's older, who have kids, and just sell it because I'm older. Damn that, I'm gonna give me somebody who's young, who keep me young, who can have more kids. You know what I'm saying? What can have fun with? You got the kids, we can't go nowhere. We got everybody the kids that gotta take care of. The kids that ain't mine, we gotta take care of. And I don't mind kids. You got two kids, cool. But I want two more. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 33:07

But You bringing a village to the village.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Yeah. That's that's how the fuck that how the fuck that works. Yeah. And think about it. I'm bringing a village to the village. Back in my own village. I can't add on to the village. I gotta take care of the village, but I can't add on to the village. I got one son. I want two more.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

That's a death sentence.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

They want you to do that. I'm not having more kids. Oh, you you you want no growing impression. And that's it that you know what's crazy?

SPEAKER_02 33:28

I don't even want to go here. We have to stop the the the fucking irresponsible quote of a man that does not take care of another man's child is not a fucking man. That's boo. I swear to fucking god I hate it. First of all, let me tell you this. A woman cannot define the definition of a man. A man is not defined by a woman, he's defined by his peers. I will never tell my little brother that he ain't no man if he don't take care of uh Sydney and her three kids that ain't his. That's not, that's not, that's not, that's not, first of all, that's not even in the category of being a man because guess what? He didn't make them children. That's a that's a choice.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

If he wants to do that, that don't make him less than a man, and that don't make him more than a man. He's still a man doing um, he's doing, he's being a man.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

So I got a story by that. So my auntie, she raised me, right? So Monty, I raised my Monty from age three to like 16, 17. So when I was with her the whole time, my uncle, which her husband, whatever, I was married, well, he's married to a family. I love your uncle. He raised 12 of us. She had one child for him. Our other kids were his nieces and nephew that on her side. These are my cousins and shit.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

I'm grateful that he did that. Ain't no way in the fuck I would ever do that for. I want him at my age now. A little younger than he had like 32 or 33. When he got me at two or three. I can't I can't imagine being in a house with fucking eight kids that ain't mine. Taking care of these kids. I don't work out. He's a good man, but doesn't necessarily but anyway. Hell, I could have done. But social media today says that's what you need to do. No, fuck no.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

The women on social media say you're not a man if you don't take care of another man's child.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

Here's one thing about this though. I guarantee those same women wouldn't want their son do that. They won't.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Never.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Let a son come home with a girl with kids. They're like, why you talking about it?

SPEAKER_02 35:26

What the fuck you doing? And I and I'm gonna say this, bro. My girl got two kids. But when we have these conversations and people ask me about it, does it make me more of a man? Because I want to take on a responsibility of another man's child, and she has two and I don't have none. This is the answer that I see. No, it don't make me more than a man. But at the same time, I love her. So when I look at the situation of she has two kids, she is the right woman for me for the things that she does for me. So I need to be the right man, do for the things that she wants for her. I know for a God having fact that she would not be with me if I didn't acknowledge them. And I understand the sacrifice, and she shouldn't. I don't expect her to, but I understand the sacrifice that I'm making. And that I my mama always told me that if you do choose to do that, right, you can't have the cow without the calf. You know, don't have to. And I wouldn't want that because I would look at a woman sideways if she allowed me to come in her life and not interact with them. Because that's sideways as fuck. Because I wouldn't want would you deal with a woman that didn't deal with your job?

SPEAKER_01 36:29

I'll just say that. So I can always tell her, see, me personally, when it comes to female, right? I already already know what my mindset with them is. So I know, okay, this girl here I just want to fuck. Okay, this girl here I can see myself, you know what I'm saying, being with whatever. So if a girl actually like whatever, she never acknowledged my son, like for me, my son, my world. Nigga my nigga on my favorite page, she's on my goddamn phone.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

You I put my heart in there.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Yeah, so you know you I small, you know I love this boy. And we know when you somebody loves something, if you're not acknowledging what they love, even if it's a job, or baby, how your job was today, or how that went today, or how's your son? Anything like that that you know I love. If you're not acknowledging that, what's whatsoever? Because if I fuck with you, I'm gonna know the child, even trying around. Well, how's um so-and-so doing? How's Lil Zoe doing? I was how little Henry doing? I'm gonna ask how's your kid doing. Because not because not because I really care for real, which I do care for real, but because I know that's that's your own. That's that's that's where you're heart at. So I'm gonna ask how you're doing whatever. So if you're not asking about that, I don't want nothing to do with you. You just gonna put you're just gonna get fucked.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

You just gonna serve your purpose.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Yeah, you can get fucked and go back.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

But the thing is though, and then I think what social media get a lot of shit wrong today. Social media is a it puts everybody in a pot. And like, again.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_02 37:37

It okay, I don't know about this. It makes we we group everybody together, right? Just like the conversation that we have now. Most women, right, on social media, I see them make shares, they get thousands and thousands of shares. Like they make statuses, they get thousands of shares, talking about, you know, stepdaddyism, and and guys need to be stepdads and this, this, and that. And I'm here to tell you, there is no benefit to being a stepdaddy. There's none. It's not one. No, there's no there's no physical benefit. There's a mental benefit and an emotional benefit, but physically you're making a bigger sacrifice.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

A girl can't tell you what a man he's not being a stepchild. He's losing money, losing time. That child can really say, I ain't step sacrifice for that. Fuck you! You ain't my real daddy. You know what I'm saying? So what is he getting out of any of this stuff?

SPEAKER_02 38:24

He ain't getting nothing, but at the end of the day, if you love that woman, you're gonna make that sacrifice. But I also gotta, I feel like us as men, we gotta stop downplaying, and I'm not speaking this because I'm doing it, but we gotta stop downplaying guys that choose to take on that role. No, I'm not downplaying. If that's what you want to do, bro, guess what? As a man who worked with kids and who is a coach, every child needs a father in their life. Whether it's their biological father, whether it's a father in the community, a coach, it does not matter. They need a male figure in their life. So I'm all for that. And I and I and I and at the end of the day, I commend those men that take on responsibility that they don't have to. You know what I'm saying? I commend myself, but at the end of the day, I don't I don't want no medal reward for it because I'm doing it because I love the woman that I'm with. And I worship my queen, and that's what I see her as. She's my queen.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Do you know I do hate though that women do with stepdads? When they forget about a real dad. And when I say forget about a real dad, that may mean like I got a new man now, so I'm gonna big up this dude. I'm gonna big up him. Like the daddy ain't not do nothing for this. But I don't think it should be like that though. It shouldn't be like that.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

And I like I told my girl, I said, man, I don't give a fuck how much your kids love me. I never tell your child he can't go with his father. I never tell your your your your kids, uh, I would never down talk your your kids' father in front of them. No, absolutely. And I would never ever ever degrade them. And I would never say, oh, uh we got we got something going on. Nah, he you can't go. Nah. What the fuck you mean he can't go? Let his ass go. Yeah. Let him go. He needs think about that. When people do that, you're hurting the child. Because guess what? What why a kid can't have four or five different people that take care of take care of him or her in in their life? What's the problem with that? What's the issue? If if if if if he has a goddad, he got a stepdad, he got a dad, he got a godmama, and a stepmama. That's five people in that child's life that's gonna take care of that child and make sure that child is straight. Why wouldn't we want that? Why wouldn't we want the village?

SPEAKER_01 40:16

So how are you still kids these again?

SPEAKER_02 40:19

12 and 5.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

12 and 5. All right, let's. So how long you how long you and girl been together?

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Two years.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Alright, so you love them kids, right? 100%. Alright, so let's say y'all break up the narrow. Alright. Are you still gonna be on the kids' life?

SPEAKER_02 40:29

We had this conversation. You know what's crazy? We had this conversation. I swear to God, we we sat down and had this conversation two days about that. And I told her, I said, that is one of my biggest fears. That's a fear of mine. Because I know if I know the way that I love them and plan on loving them even more, that I will get too attached to them. Like they're mine, because I don't got no kids.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

So they are I look at them like you know, they are my children. So I told her, I said that is the biggest fear that I keep in the back of my mind is the fact that I don't have a physical attraction, attachment to these kids because they ain't really mine. So I don't have no rights to them. So if you choose to move away and go to fucking Alaska tomorrow, I can't stop you technically, because we're not married.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Okay, let's say she stayed local. Let's say she stayed local. Whatever. We still be in the kids' life.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Okay. Okay, so let's I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, especially with the dad. Is dad in the kids' life? We ain't gonna talk about that. Okay. So I done no answer. Okay, so say y'all break up whatever and whatever, and then uh she gets a new man, whatever. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna assume that she's gonna want her boyfriend to take on that responsibility as well. That's what she was doing. Now, if he's doing that, are you gonna also continue to goddamn doing what you're doing?

SPEAKER_02 41:42

I'm gonna scale it back.

unknown 41:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Because I don't want to confuse the kids. That's why I would get back. I want to give him, I want to give him a chance. So get next. I want to give him a chance to bond and be that figure. Yeah. But if the kids are just ultimately not bonding with him and they don't, and they're just more attached to me, I'm not gonna hurt their feelings by stepping away from them and saying, uh, your mama did this. No, because they don't have nothing to do with that. I can't hold that over there.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Okay, but let's say they bond with you. Both y'all. They love both of y'all.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Are you gonna continue to do that? All right, so let's say that she break up break up with him. Let's keep breaking with him. It's another dude. Fuck! Another guy. Okay. So this kind of similar to what happened to me. Except that um my supposed with a girl had a kid before my kid, and then I got with her. We got had a baby. We got a baby. We woke up. Now she had another boyfriend. Do I continue to be in this girl's life knowing that she has a actual daddy who's in life? Now she has another dude that's in life. Do I continue to do to do this with this girl, knowing that she got now? She got what's three letters, three letters now?

SPEAKER_02 42:55

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Or do I break up?

SPEAKER_02 42:58

So what so what did you actually do?

SPEAKER_01 42:59

So me personally, what I did was I I broke it off. I broke off two things.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Did it hurt you?

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Oh, it devastated me. But I knew I had to do it. Because one, it's not fair for my son. Because my time, my my my time resources going it's really for him. Whatever. Because she getting the but she she was getting the best of the world. She gonna she had a real daddy, she had me, and now she got a stepdaddy. That's that's all you been for me for all this. And a mom. You know what I'm saying? And your mom, you've been for all this. Okay, yeah, you're right. So I was like, it hurt me, it hurt my hurt my soul. Like it. Even today when I see her sometimes, I'd be saying, like, damn, I look at my baby, like, she done got big. I've been looking at her stuff. Hurt me to my soul, cause I'm a baby. For a long time, my baby, but I knew it wasn't fair for her. I ain't like, yeah. Like, damn, why the no saying? For a long time she took on my dad for a long time. Her mama got mad at me until she would have understood why why did that like why you would like my baby? I said, Well, look, thank you. Now she got this other man. She was still young. She was like four years old. But really, she she could she had time. What's she for you was three? She really she had time to forget about me.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

That's why what's the other thing? But if you would have stayed though. She would have seen you as her dad.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

And now the relationship with everybody else hurt.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

You know what I'm saying? Now you know what give her getting that with you. Like, how I play how I play out play out with you.

SPEAKER_02 44:11

But see, that's the but that's a that's a conversation that you gotta like really have with yourself, bro. Yeah. Like I've I like I have that conversation with myself every day because like you don't know, you never know like what happens. And she was like, Well, you know, why are you thinking like that? And I'm like, I have to. Yeah. I was like, because they ain't mine.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

You be a damn fool to think find out.

SPEAKER_02 44:28

I was like, think I was like, think about it like this. If they were my kids, no matter what the fuck you do, I always have a physical attachment to these kids. They're mine. There's nothing you could tell me about these kids that I can't do. If I want to get my kids, I can't. But if we break off tomorrow and you decide to go be with somebody else, all attachment stops. So all that time that I am spent with these kids, all that money I spent with these kids, all this emotional attachment that I have with these children is now just over. Absolutely. And a drop of a dime. And I said that would hurt me more than me losing you. I said, so that's why I say it's not it's not a win. This ain't you know, it ain't no you you don't win in this.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

You just have to manage it and do what you have to do and love the person that you with and love them, but that shit can get that shit can be over like that. You can make one fuck, you can fuck up and and and I could go cheat and it's over with. Yeah, everything over with. But if they're my kids and I cheat, oh well, shit, I lost her, but I still got them. I cheat tomorrow, all this shit over with. Yep. And now guess what? Fuck my feelings. Yeah. She can do that. Exactly. So that's why I say like I get where you're coming from. Yeah. Because I think about it. But at the end of the day, I gotta live in the reality that I chose, and I'm cool with it. Yeah. But I also think like in reality, and so like when I say social media, like social media reality, right? We talk about a lot of dudes nowadays. The whole synopsis around a lot of guys is that a lot of guys don't take care of their kids. That's careful. But in reality, though, I've been seeing a lot of guys take care of their kids. Yeah, me too. I've been seeing a lot of guys with their kids. We're definitely better than they knew. Bro, it's a lot of guys. People don't understand. A lot of men don't post their kids on social media. No. A lot of kids don't post what they do with their kids on social media because people are weird. Guys look at social media differently than women do. You know what I'm saying? So that's why that there's that stigma around what guys should do on social media and what they shouldn't do. Of course, I break that shit all the time. But I don't I don't think that every guy is a deadbeat how everybody how everybody portrays it on social media. Like you, you're a great father, right? Like, I my cousin, like, dude, dude's a great father. It don't matter how many kids he got, he's a great father. He take care of all of them. So the synopsis around everything that goes on on social media is that everybody's a deadbeat. Every guy's a deadbeat. But that's just simply not true.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

I think the problem is girls want you, girls want man to parent how they want to parent. First of all, you got with La Ribe. You know, knew Lil Ribe was before the kids came. So why you thought Ray was like, I gotta be La Ray Ray, bro. Big Ray Ray, whatever Timmy, whatever. You know he knew he was before you got with him. So because he's not parenting in the way that you want him to parent, I'm gonna get him parent. Sometimes the Ribe might get his kids and take them to the damn mama's house. And she had them helped the whole damn time. But you got your break. Well, because he's not getting them, because you want how you want him to get them now. That's an issue. You know what I'm saying? But you want to you want to get the time with the kid, but he might be driving around with the kid all day.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

Hey man, it's the way he spent time with him. What you worry about it for? You know what I mean? What do you worry about it for? Kid is gone, you stay to worry about it. Bitch, go do what you gonna do. Do you think social media, do you think social media has changed the way people date?

SPEAKER_01 47:45

As far as what?

SPEAKER_02 47:47

The expectations.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Yeah. I think they'll they're they're they're fucking the thing that D-Muck act for now is outrageous. I had to grab me for a thousand dollars one time. That'll do money.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

Bro, get the fuck out of here, bro.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

Like, that's a little bit of money.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Bro, get the fuck out of here. That's what a guy said. What she said, bro.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

Like it wasn't like it was like a casual thought. Like, but you know what a thousand dollars is?

SPEAKER_02 48:07

So what she what she said when you said that?

SPEAKER_01 48:09

She started laughing, like, what you ain't got it? I said, I got it. But you ain't gonna have it.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

Wait, wait, wait, wait. She talking about what you ain't got it.

SPEAKER_01 48:16

You ain't got it. L. So first of all, this bitch, first of all, I'm sorry, this this lady. She had a she had a body, had a body done, why she had a tether done, she had a teeth done, whatever. Always had VV, she got like jury, all kinds of fancy bitch. I guess she used to talk on a dope board, whatever. With money, whatever. So I'm like, what are you gonna talk about?

SPEAKER_02 48:37

What county she from?

SPEAKER_01 48:38

I ain't gonna tell you that. Nah, I'm gonna tell you about it. It's gonna be obvious. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 48:49

Nah. Nah, I ain't recognized.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

So um so she was talking about some um kind of car she drive. Man, I ain't gonna say who had no car.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

So anyway, so this motherfucker was talking about some motherfucking.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up, dog. Shut the fuck up, bro. But anyway, let's think here. Anyway, this bitch. Yeah, no, shot, shot up. You stupid, bro. Hold on, hold on. Another thing, this is long you own things. And you don't post this clip, right? Don't post the clip, bro. But long for that though. But anyways. Oh man, hold on. I'm like, no, like that's a little money. What's we talking about? Like, bro, yeah. You ain't got it. I said, Anybody ain't got got it, but you even have it. What's we think talking about like a thousand dollars like a little money?

SPEAKER_02 49:51

I just jumped in.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

Yeah, like like yeah, but you got your motherfucking mind. No, that was that whole man. I had to cut that whole left alone.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

Thousand dollars, bro.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

No, like she got like that was nothing.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

Did you at least fuck?

SPEAKER_01 50:05

I fucked a bump time before before um even that. So I was really shocked that she even tried like that.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Oh, she just she probably feel like because y'all fuck, like, hey, let me get the money.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

Thousand dollars, bitch. You gotta fucking no fucking thousand dollars. I'm gonna damn who we fucking.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Okay, online. You a good Janice Hart a thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

Yeah, that's nothing. Why you so hard on Janice Hart, man? I love her dog.

SPEAKER_02 50:26

Uh what did I ever say bad about Janice?

SPEAKER_01 50:28

You talking about the niggas that be dancing with her and shit, you fucking prostitutely. Listen, I'll pay that whole $50 to goddamn sit my goddamn fee. What? Absolutely. This heart. Absolutely. That bitch so goddamn pretty than me. I've been seeing him like, damn man, I want to talk another. I can't say shit to them dog and get my ass. But I won't listen, I want that girl. I wish that was them. Listen, I wish that was me. Why you ain't go? I actually had shit going on.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

Well, it's it'd be all content, though, bro. I'm gonna say this. Because me and my girl had this conversation, bro. I I I I I absolutely admire dark-skinned women. I love her. That's what I like. I like dark-skinned women. And I think Janice is a very beautiful woman. Janice is very beautiful. She's fine as hell. But I do think Janice is an example of what's wrong in our community. I agree. And let me say this: I think there is a lot of people in our community that get touched, that have trauma as kids, and it stays on them and it sticks on them, and that spirit or whatever spirit they have on them of being touched, right? Because Janice said that she was raped and that she she was at the girls and boys' home at 14, sucking dick. Oh, shit. And she said that she thought that was the right thing to do because she had been touched on. And that is an example of people in the community. If you have something that happens to you that is traumatic and you're taking advantage of, get fucking help. Janice heart is an example of she got touched, she got fucked on, and guess what? It carried on, it stayed on her, and it became her identity. That shit happens when you get like like it's like little boys that get raped, they end up being gay. Yeah. A lot of the times. Because that trauma sticks on them. They don't get help, they don't talk about it, don't speak about it, and it becomes their identity.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

I want to say her getting raped became her identity because raped. Bro, no, bro.

SPEAKER_02 52:10

But I'm saying, what what was the what is the synopsis around her when she first got famous? Is that she gives good ass heat? Yeah, oh yeah. She was giving head at 13 to grown-ass men.

SPEAKER_01 52:18

I heard, yeah, I heard that.

SPEAKER_02 52:19

She got groomed.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

And that's that became her identity. Now she made it, she's making a bag out of it. She's making money out of it. She died, she's good at what she does.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Is she done the porn still? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Well, I thought she got an OnlyFans, but that became her identity. If you get if you you know get got trauma, and you know, don't let that trauma carry you into your adulthood because that becomes your identity. That's what you live by. And that is an example of what's wrong with in the community. Because also, when you got social media, right? When motherfuckers come on social media and say they've been essayed or raped or raped or whatever, motherfuckers laugh at them.

SPEAKER_05 52:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

That's not reality.

SPEAKER_04 52:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_04 52:59

It is.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

That is fucked up. Like, bro, when that girl deja said she got raped when she came on my live and everybody thought I was being funny. I brought Tim on, I brought the guy on up. Right? He was never convicted. So at the same time, so at that time and moment, he was free. He's still free. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

No, it happened, right? No! Man, listen. I'm sure never mind. I don't think it happened.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Oh bro, she we cool now, bro. We ain't gonna do that. Okay, I'm gonna go. No, I'm saying me and her cool now, bro. We ain't gonna do that right now.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

No, no, fuck that. I think having a lot with couple of females.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

She got too drunk.

SPEAKER_01 53:37

Got too drunk, and you fucked.

SPEAKER_02 53:39

But as a man though, you shouldn't even be trying to fuck no woman that's been drunk.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

I agree, but here's my thing with that too, though. Because I asked somebody that happened, not not to me personally, but by the Marine Corps. I'll tell I'll tell a story. This is the reason why for a long time I never fucked girls on alcohol. And this is this is and girl, don't think I'm lying, I'm not calling me out on this shit. So I had a friend in the Marine Corps. Me and him went out to the bar. Made two girls. Bob through the crib. We all drink, all taking shot, throwing back. We all drunk. We're not fucking. I had my girl one bed, he had the girl one bed. Next day, she talked about something she don't remember anything that happened with. Wow. So my friend ended up like then the helma got like sent to jail behind this shit. But she said that he that she don't remember what happened and she consented nothing to happen. I'm like, bro, what the fuck are you talking about? I was drunk, I ain't all my right mind. I said, we was all drunk. I remember we both sitting in front of the dude, like, what happened last night? I'm like, listen, I was my chick, his chick. Everybody was drinking, everybody was drunk, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

She was a marine too?

SPEAKER_01 54:32

No, no, she was civilian. We all drinking. And you know what I'm saying, did what happened, happened, happened. You know what I'm saying? I said, he didn't rape her, because they're both like, she was consent like a motherfucker. They got in this car, she went to this house with her. They got they got in their own car and followed us here. We ain't they didn't get our car. We got in your own car and y'all followed us to this motherfucking bed.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

Y'all knew what y'all was doing.

SPEAKER_01 54:50

You know what I'm saying? I knew what's going on. My girl ain't complained. She was she knew what was going on. She he some she was gonna see, I think because really both of them had girlfriends. Both boyfriends, whatever. They had boyfriends. And I think that he caught a phone or somehow he found out about it, and then she's trying to throw that you that rape shit as a motherfucking side.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

Wow, that's absolutely insane.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

I I know a girl get raped. I'm not denying that. Some niggas like how to do an answer that they get raped. But I believe your ass got drunk and you got fucked. And you didn't like it, you ain't like him. You probably didn't plan for the happening, whatever, but you got drunk and you got a little overloaded. And the dick was bad, and now you got raped. That's what they happened. But she's a very pretty girl though. Like other than the fact, she very beautiful woman, but I just think that I think that she's.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

If that would have hit social media, what you think would happen?

SPEAKER_01 55:39

What? Her story. Yeah. Or mine. Hers. Being who she is, I don't think people will take it serious. Because it's her. You know what I'm saying? But it is social media. Ain't nobody believed it. My thing is why why didn't you file a police report? If it if that happened to you, if that happened for her, then you should file a police report.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

The day it happened. She won't she was worried about the image. She wasn't worried about it. Because she knows it didn't happen. But she was worried about the image. That's why I say it ties back to social media. It's an image thing.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

It's all the image thing. What do you think happened? I don't think I don't think she got raped.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

Okay. I don't think so either. I think. No, tell me what they have. Tell me why she um Who?

SPEAKER_02 56:19

Which one?

SPEAKER_01 56:19

Tim?

unknown 56:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:20

Yeah. Why she said she's raped.

SPEAKER_02 56:22

I just I think that uh she she was she was drinking and she was embarrassed. She was more so embarrassed because is who it was, and it's easier to scream rape than it is to admit that I fucked the lane. I agree. That happens all the time. But it also reverses it though. If you look at what's going on when a lot of these guys get outed for being fucking predators and shit and rapists, because they are. And it amazes me that motherfuckers will come to their uh rescue and defend them. And it's like, bro, I don't give a fuck what you say, bro. A sexual assault or rape allegation is an allegation that I'm gonna take the fucking. I don't give a fuck who you are. Unfan bullshit. I am going to absolutely look at you sideways until you are proven innocent. Because why the fuck? This shit just don't come out of nowhere. But to see people pick and choose on social media based on popularity or who it is, it's an issue. Like that guy, right? In O'Cala, who's popular as fuck, all the motherfuckers underneath that bitch defending him. This is a 13, this is a 27-year-old guy. Fuck the 13-year-old. There's no excuse for that. Ain't no excuse for that. I don't give a fuck. I'll pop to you. That's fucked up. You need to burn, you need to burn your ass at the state.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

I don't give a damn if you're consensual. You're a fucking nasty bitch. It could miss consensual. I don't know. I want to know a story with that. What happened with that? I'm not one more story.

SPEAKER_02 57:33

Basically, like I think like the the forced up on the girl. I don't know. He the lady that her daughter went over to the dad's house, dad's friend's house, or whatever. He was there and you know he coerced her or whatever. That's what the story rape. He raped her. Yeah. Right? It don't matter if she consent a heat. He needs to be fucking shot. He need to be fucking, he need to be fucking castrated. He needs to be shot. He need to be fucking firing ranges. Yeah. And then electric chair to make sure he's dead. Like that's fucked up. Yeah. Like, like, bro, that's why I say I could never have a daughter and that shit happened. Yeah. But I'm going to kill you. I'm going to jail like a motherfucker. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to jail like a motherfucker. You better hope they'll all get to you before I do. Yeah. But to see motherfuckers pick and choose based off a motherfucker's popularity or or how they feel about a motherfucker is absolutely crazy. Because if I got a if I oh man got a leg, if I had an allegation come out about me raping or doing anything with a woman, illegally, force myself on a woman, tomorrow I'll be crucified by everybody. Go live by this. Talk about this. Talk about this.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

That's why I say pick, pick a choose. But I would hate. Please, listen. I had no problem against gay dudes, by the way. Nigga, if you ever get spoiled for being gay, and I know you ain't gay. But if you ever get exposed for being gay, boy, you would never barely get left down. You would never, ever. Because all the shit I've said. I wouldn't be a little down. They'll be on your ass. Like, they'll be on your ass. Yeah. They'll be on your ass.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

I'm surprised on some real shit. I'm surprised ain't nobody like ever like make up no AI shit. Or nothing about me.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

I thought I thought I thought about that shit. You know what I'm saying? Show proof the man gay whatever. But AI days, you can do anything with AI.

SPEAKER_02 59:18

But that's what I say. This is what I say when I talk about social media in this regards. Bro, you don't think out of all the things I done said on social media about the LGBTQTP community. And I done pissed all the LGBTQTP people off. You don't think somebody would have came out and exposed me? If I was actually a punk, if I was actually gay, if I was actually messing with men, come on, bro. Come on, bro. Like that's why I don't, that's why when people say that, I'm like, cuz bro, I got punk cousins. All my punk cousins tell me the same thing. Cause I ain't never heard about you being gay. No. I ain't never heard that. Ever. I understand that. Yeah, I am a little sassy. Drizzle drizzle. What do you want to call it? Yeah. I am a little sassy. I am. I ain't gonna say I ain't. Every man got a little sassy in him. Yeah. But I'm sassy because of my mouth and because I say certain things that other niggas ain't gonna say. Yeah. They wanna see it. I'm not a real, but people say, oh, you're not a real nigga. I ain't a real nigga.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:06

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:07

I'm a man. I'm a male. But I ain't a real nigga. Who gives a fuck about being a real nigga? What does a real nigga get you? What does being a real nigga get you? I don't give a fuck about that. Fuck that shit. I'm a man. I'm a real I'm a citizen. A law by the citizen. Oh, but if you touch me, you go to jail. I swear to God. If you talk about, oh, you talk too much. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna say what the fuck I want to say. Bitch, you come in my house, you're gonna die. If you touch me on the street, you either go. You better hope I don't have my gun on me. And if I do have my gun on me, you better hope I'm in a good mood. Because if you threaten my life and I see you, I'm gonna kill you if you try anything. Or I'm gonna call the police. Because I pay taxes. You need to people need to learn emotional control.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:46

For a long time, I used to hate people like you. I thought about it though. I actually better say what the fuck I want to say while you put your hand on. I got freedom of speed, bitch. I thought about that shit. No, you're right. Motherfuckers better say what they want to say about you, got the handle about you. Nah, it's certainly levels you want across. Talking to my son, I'm going to jail. Like there's certain things I'm not gonna, I'm just not gonna.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:02

Like I would never disrespect the dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

Like like I seen what, like you seen that fight that happened up O'Cala with G1M? Yeah. So basically, bro talked about uh Block. Block is uh they deceased brother. See. You how the fuck you expect, how the fuck you expect to to first of all talk shit on social media all week. You talk shit on social media all week about about this man, throwing some liminals. Then he sees you, you got your head down. You ain't saying nothing. That shit up. And no, then he didn't say nothing on social media about him, about his dead brother. He said it right then and up when they confronted him about it. He said, basically said, fuck block. You don't think these niggas finna jump you? They're gonna beat your fucking ass.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

And they should. Oh, they fucking should. I ain't seen bro make no statuses. No, he's he's a smart, he's a smart boy. I don't know who it is, but you're a smart boy. Hey. Fuck a man, I can't think about what I want to ask some questions, bro. It was something that happened recently. A fight or something that happened, I want to ask you about. I'm fucking pissed. I can't I hate that. I can't, I can't remember what we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:03

You got early onset dementia, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

I do, man. I'm getting old, bro. 35, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Hey, bro, how you feel halfway to 40? How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

Honestly, bro. You know, I'm what your age? I thought 30 was old.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

Now I'm 35. I still feel young.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:17

I still feel like you're gonna be like, are you still living life?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

Like what's some things you want to accomplish outside of social media that you want to accomplish that you that you won't ever put on social media if you accomplish.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

Well, I have another goal, my power will put on for me, though. So I want to get my own and give me another degree in our business, whatever, because I I want to branch out from my job and uh create my own business. I'm not gonna tell what that business is because I want to say I don't want to give you a blessings up. Yeah. Um really I want more kids, man. Like I'm getting to the age now where I got I got money, I got I'm like, I'm like real comfortable, bro. Like my life right now, bro. I'm like real happy what I got going on, you know what I'm saying? You know I got going on. I'm like real happy. I got I got I got a good thing going on. I got a great thing going on, I got great life, great friends, great family. Then right now it's time for me to get down, you know what I'm saying, go ahead and start settling down, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:10

I think that the thing is with me, like I told my girl this too. Like, bro, I'm at the point, like, bro, like with social media, bro, like I don't I'm sorry, I'm gonna cut y'all, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:20

I want to do this shit too. This shit, this shit, this shit is fun. It has to fun. Like, I enjoy talking on the mic, you know what I'm saying, doing this. I see you got your own little you got like three platforms. We got you got TikTok going, you got Facebook going, you got this going, you got a lot of shit going. Even got your little with your home board, y'all got your little thing going. I would love to start my I want to stop my own little podcast, like on my own, you know what I'm saying, branching off off of this. Stop my own little shit. I learned a lot of shit from you. Watching you do your shit. I learned a lot. There was time I was doing this, like two or three years ago, I was doing this. It wasn't as big as this shit is, but it was starting to get there, but my cousin's schedule was so different that we had to stop kind of stop doing it, you know what I'm saying? But we had a little buzz, man. We had little buzz, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

But the thing is though, and I told my girl, bro, if you look at my intermediate circle, bro, my circle's not big. I don't have a big circle because I know like the more that I grow, the more envy I would get. Okay. And I don't want people, too many people around me because I won't be able to sort out who's envious and who isn't. Like, I I just I wanted to specifically do this podcast with you because I know we also we think alike, but we also think different on things, but we can sit down and have conversations. And I like I was telling my girl today, like I'm trying to teach my girl the game as well, like with content and stuff. I do all her content, but I'm teaching her so that she knows. So my my thing is with you, like I want to like I want you to experience all of this so that you know what I'm saying, when you do decide to branch off and do your own shit, you do it the right way. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that way, guess what? If you eat, I eat. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Even not in this in this regard, but I want you to be able to have the game because I ain't had nobody to teach me. Yeah, I had to learn on my own. Hell, you see me, I'm still learning. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I still fuck up sometimes. Damn. Did a video the other day, two-hour video, mic went even on. All that kind of down again. All drain. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So I want you to be able to learn the game because I fuck with you. You're my dog. Yeah. I'd rather give you the game than go do a podcast with a nigga from Gainesville who got 30,000 views, but he don't, he 30,000 followers, but he don't even know what he he don't even know how this shit works. Yeah. You know, now I'm doing the legwork. But he's gonna take my game and give it to other motherfuckers I don't fuck with. You know what I'm saying? So that's that's why I tell people like, bruh, this this industry, like I look at social media now as a job. I don't look at it as like, damn, bruh, I just got two million views, nigga. Um I'm popping. Bro, I swear to God, I don't even like. If people who don't know me off the camera, like, they would swear that I'm just this big head motherfucker. That I just I'm arrogant. Bro, I'm the coolest, most laid back person you ever meet. Yeah. Because I don't look at this as like, damn, I got a clout. I don't give a fuck. I do this. And I think that's why I piss so many people off because I don't care. Motherfuckers treat me differently now because I have a platform than when I first started. Bro, I remember when I first started, bro, ain't nobody fuck with me. Nobody wanted to give me a chance. Nobody wanted to come on my podcast. Nobody wanted to sit down and talk to me. Nobody wanted to give me any pointers. But now, since I had to learn all this shit on my own, collaborate with a couple people outside of my own area, make a name for myself a little bit. Now everybody wanna talk to me. Now, bro, I was at the block party of the day. It was niggas that I couldn't even dap up. I seen these niggas walk across the road to come dap me or or to shake my hand to say what's up, bro. To go out their way. I go in the establishments downtown, I get to bring my camera. I don't gotta pay for shit. I go to clubs, no, I don't gotta pay for no drinks. I get to come in through the back door. But I don't look at myself as no celebrity.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:53

Here's my question for you. Are there certain subjects that you won't touch?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:58

You talking about speaking on?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

I won't speak on the dead. I won't speak on the dead. And unless it's something like that I have the family's permission, like people like the close to kin, closest of kin tell me I'm okay with it, I would do it. That's why I don't do a lot of the cold case files. That's why I don't cover a lot of the cold case uh and murders around the city because at the end of the day I know that's a womb for people, and I don't want to reopen that womb without the permission. So I won't ever do that shit unless somebody actually comes to me and tell like gives me the permission or asks me to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Was there ever a story that you did that you were like, damn, I shouldn't do that? That you could feel bad for you, like, damn, I might do. I wish I wouldn't do that. I wish I wouldn't have called you.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:43

Honestly, I'm gonna say this. When I when I when I when I when I when I when I um when I did that story when me and Polo was going back at it, and I had that dude come on up and talked about how you know Polo is bisexual, right? I kind of I kind of sat back and I'm I'm gonna tell you why. Because I know that that was a very, very, very, very emotional point for him. And the reason why I felt that way was because bro, a lot of people can't handle that shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:16

I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:17

So what if that man would have killed himself?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:19

Okay. This man, okay, this listen, I'm gonna be real with you. I already so you know how I feel about DL man as in general. I don't like DL dudes in general. So there's a lot of shit he did that was overly disrespectful. Going to the grave, having your name on the gravestone, coming to Wildwood, driving around. So no, no, no, but once once you cross you crossing the lines now. Once you cross them lines, all bets are off. You weren't wrong with doing that? Ain't my telling gonna fuck that boy? You weren't wrong with that? No, listen, I'm gonna be real. You weren't wrong with that shit? That's that hey, listen, that shit though, I'm actually mad that you feel something about that. I'm I'm thinking piece of miles. No, you weren't wrong with that, bro. No, fuck no. I actually like that you did that shit. I wish, I wish everybody were out these get these the other niggas. I rather do. I I cannot stand it, I cannot stand the old dudes. Social media, but because they always the hardest dudes. 100%. Always the toughest men. Because they hold something in their heart. Yeah, always the toughest dudes. They got something to prove. Yeah. So I was I was happy. I was guys, I was so happy we did that shit to him. Okay, he deserved that. That's probably cool now, whatever, but then he deserved that shit. He was doing too much. That show that showed him was it got too the point where it got too disrespectful. So you did that shit, that that ended the whole thing. That's everything now. Like he couldn't, he couldn't defend that. He couldn't, it was nothing he could do after that.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

But the thing is, though, I tell people, bro, like, I'm the type of nigga dog, if you go low, I'm going to hell. I'm going to hell. You should. I'm going to hell with it. Yeah, but I have the resources to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

And you kept it with evidence. You kept it real shit. You ain't lie on a man. You know what I'm saying? You call somebody who actually had something to do with this man and let you lie to him. You ain't tell the man say that. He came up totally fit this shit. Oh, I'm as bro. I'm as pissed at you, bro. That you got mad by that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:06

I wasn't pissed at the fact that I like did it. I was pissed that I was kind of concerned. Because you thought he could hurt himself. I didn't hurt himself.

unknown 1:10:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:12

Oh, I thought he was gonna try to do something meeting. I was about to hurt him.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:15

Okay. Fair enough. I don't give a fuck about none of that, bro. I'm gonna be real with you. I don't give a damn about none of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:21

I'm rubber, I'm rubbing off on you, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:22

If he would no no no no before you came around, I wouldn't give a damn about that. If he would kill himself, if he would just have to kill himself. And I'll I'm gonna be real, because you bought them on yourself, bro. You first of all, I feel like he'll tack you first. From what I remember, from remembering that he was attacked you first. It was like everything, your platform this, your platform that, Gary Yon to this, Gary on calling you like throwing the game some game shit at you. You know what I'm saying? Now I actually got you now. And I'm for bad about you. No, I'm for bad about you.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:47

It's the weird, man. People don't like the weird. I don't give a damn. Fuck all that. It's the weird, dog. Fuck all that. I don't give a fuck, bro. At the end of the day, I'm still gonna live my life, man. I I ain't gonna lie, bro. This has been a great episode, man. Yeah, we're gonna be. We've had a great talk, and I'm glad that we're back on track. We're gonna have episode, what was it, episode five? We're gonna have This is episode five.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:05

Yeah, episode five.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:06

Okay. We're gonna have episode six up soon as let as soon as possible. Uh next episode, we gotta we gotta get sit down in the lab and actually talk about the next topic that we want to get into. I think we should probably get into a little bit more. Um we should probably get into the Iranian war and feel about it with you being uh uh with a with of you being a war vet. Your I would love the your perspective on that and how you feel about everything. Because I my dog my dog Trump kind of be getting on my nerves a little bit. He pissed me off too. If he getting over nerves, he let me down real bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:31

He let me down real bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

Hey, he he kind of I'm I'm I'm just seeing a lot of people turn around.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:36

Yeah, I can't defend him. Like if it's something like, man, I can't, bro. You doing something. I can't defend it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:40

They're gonna I ass, but I know it. They've been on our ass, lady. No, it's later I ain't even talking about lady. I've been kind of like letting it go, you know what I'm saying? Like, whoa, got it. Hey, man, hey, it is what it is. But I'm gonna say this, man. I I appreciate all y'all, man. And at the end of the day, we're steady growing. I appreciate my followers, I appreciate my supporters. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate everybody who allow me to be myself, you know what I'm saying? And um, this is this is something that y'all get to see an in-depth. I might actually bring my girlfriend on here one day. And me and with me and Kelly, we're gonna have a talk. Talk. If you ever want to come on the podcast, um DM me on Instagram, DM me on Facebook, or even text Kelly, you know what I'm saying? Anybody from the local area, anybody from the outside, surrounding areas, we're all open. Um, I'm actually gonna blame my um my cousin Renisha. She wants to come on here? Yeah, sure. I like Ranisha. And I like her because she has a very, very, very, she's very smart. I gave her that book to read on Martin Luther King about how who he truly is. Yeah, she ain't hit me back yet. So I'm waiting on her because I gave her the book, the truth about it. You know what I'm saying? So um, we appreciate y'all. We're truly independent thinkers. Kelly, anything you want to say to me before we sign up?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:42

Oh no, man, like I say, I think y'all was supporting us, you know what I'm saying? And we saw about the delay. No, that's partly both our fault, really my fault, really, because like I say, life and life, and you know how to go. Um, we're gonna be better though. Hopefully we can drop the episode once a week. Hopefully, get back to how we was. We was doing good one time.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

We're we're about to rebrand, man. Y'all see we got we're on the couch today, more comfy. We're about to put the LED lights. Yeah, Kelly's getting a new couch. Uh, we're gonna get a banner up here, you know what I'm saying? So we we're gonna make the podcast as comfortable as possible for y'all sooner or later. Once I get uh an Oxcore, I don't know why I forget, and we gotta get headphones. We'll be able to take actual live calls during the podcast. I like it. I like that. I'd be fine. So we're gonna and we're actually I'm gonna try to get it to where we go live and actually y'all watch the podcast live, and then y'all can watch the podcast uh the rerun. So I appreciate y'all, man. It's G, it's Kelly. We're signing off. Peace.