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Experts in the Loop
18 | 12 Days of AI - OpenAI looking to end the year strong
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In the latest episode of the Digital Nexus Podcast, Mark and Chris explore updates from OpenAI, Claude, and the Australian Senate's recent recommendations on AI regulation. We also highlight new updates from OpenAI, Anthropic, Google and even our own update of the Aus DeFi website as well as a demo of Fuzzy Sequence.
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro and updates
4:05 - Techstars Demo Day
8:22 - 12 days of shipmas by OpenAI
15:00 - Lightricks AI video tool
16:35 - ElevenLabs - GenFM Reader
18:45 - RunwayML Gen 3 Alpha
20:00 - AI Guardrails and Senate Select Committee recommendations
25:46 - Anthropic - Model Context Pool
27:17 - Google Deepmind Genie2
30:40 - Takeaways on AI from AFR CFO Summit
33:29 - AI Research tool - One Minute Papers
34:30 - Stand with Crypto event this week
34:59 - Aus DeFi website updated - powered by AI
40:02 - Fuzzy Sequence demo
Links
Techstars
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7270542466859036673/
12 days of shipmas
https://www.theverge.com/2024/12/4/24312352/openai-sora-o1-reasoning-12-days-shipmas
Open source video generating: From Isreal, Lightricks and LTXV
https://venturebeat.com/ai/exclusive-lightricks-bets-on-open-source-ai-video-to-challenge-big-tech/
https://www.lightricks.com/
Anthropic API’s for business
https://www.anthropic.com/news/model-context-protocol
Google announces Genie 2:
https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/genie-2-a-large-scale-foundation-world-model/
One Minute Papers
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/michael-wang-9a78011b5_if-you-want-to-stay-on-top-of-the-latest-activity-7270180075864547328-_Qhg?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
AI challenges highlighted at AFR CFO Summit https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7266652850322055168/
Senate Select Committee on AI
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/a-cheap-magic-trick-amazon-google-meta-accused-of-dodging-senate-questions-20241126-p5ktlc.html
Fuzzy Sequence AI
https://fuzzysequence.com/
Other Links
🎙️our podcast links here: https://digitalnexuspodcast.com/
👤Chris on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pcsinclair/
👤Mark on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markmonfort/
👤 Mark on Twitter - https://twitter.com/captdefi
SHOWNOTE LINKS
🔗 SIKE - https://sike.ai/
🌐Digital Village - https://digitalvillage.network/
🌐NotCentralised - https://www.notcentralised.com/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DigitalNexusPodcast
X (twitter): @DigitalNexus
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Hey folks, it's Marky from
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the Digital Nexus podcast.
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I'm here with Chris.
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Show here for episode 18.
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Pretty pumped.
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A lot of interesting news today.
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Um, big news run open AI, Claude, or
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having some interesting updates.
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Has got a really cool video announcement
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relating to video games.
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We dive into, uh, the 13 recommendations
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from the Senate select committee here in
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Australia.
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So it's getting serious for if you are
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building in the AI space and we dive into
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demos as well.
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So we've got something for the Oz DeFi
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association, which is going to be by
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the time you see this, hopefully it's
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something you can actually try out.
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So revamping and improving websites,
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tinkering with tools to all my tinker is
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out there.
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You're going to love this and Chris you
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show as well as the
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ultimate sales tool to
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support you and how you reach out to
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contacts utilizing AI.
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Catch you in the episode.
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See you there.
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Welcome back folks.
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We are here for another
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episode 18 of the DigitalXE podcast.
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I am Mark, one of your co-hosts.
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I'm here with Chris.
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The other co-host.
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The other co-hosts.
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And we've also got PD the Plant.
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You've given him a name.
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In other episodes, PD
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is now anthropomorphized.
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That's a word.
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He wasn't there last episode.
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Cause where were we, Chris?
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We were at the, um, CryptoCon.
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That's the way I'm calling it.
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CryptoCon, but it was a convention.
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That's the way.
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It kind of sounds like a
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bad thing, but so, CryptoCon
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has a lot of stuff to celebrate because
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they hit a hundred K, um, a
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phenomenal kind of milestone, considering
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that one dude, basically, I think they,
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they worked out that the amount of, um,
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Bitcoin that he paid for his picture in
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like 2000 and whatever, 2009, 11,
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whenever it was, there is Bitcoin pizza.
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They actually, I should know this, but
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would be worth billions.
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Oh yeah.
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Great.
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If I could go back in time and say, Hey,
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Chris from 2012, buy that $18 worth of
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CryptoCoin that you were going to spend.
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I'll be like running away.
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Cause like, why is there a W?
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Yeah.
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Who is this older guy?
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They don't have that in
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like back to the future.
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They're like, you meet your future self.
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You can tell it's like you.
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Well, it'll be a bad thing.
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It'll be a bad thing.
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They think it's a ghost.
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Well, they, they shoot it.
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If you touch yourself,
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it could cause yourself.
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It could cause catastrophic time.
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Dilution, the end of the
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universe as we know it.
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And who knows?
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And we'll dive into a bit like open AI
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has their merry shipments, the 12 days of
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shipments where they're giving out every
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day for 12 days and
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you think one of those
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could be time travel.
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Who freaking knows, right?
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Maybe it probably knows.
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Maybe we should ask it.
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We should, we should.
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But anyways, folks, we were around for
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the other Oz Crypto Convention last two
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weeks ago and stuff.
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So we went around last week.
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So you were in New Zealand last week.
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I was in NZ.
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I was in Auckland, a phenomenal city,
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really great places to eat.
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A lot of great wineries and
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stuff, except for the weather.
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longer that we stayed there.
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is just calling us back.
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It was rainy the time I got there.
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It was sunny by the time that we left.
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And yeah, you know, if New Zealand wants
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great weather, just find a way to get me
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over there, folks.
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I take Bitcoin.
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It's one of those things.
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It was like a marketing
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campaign to keep you there.
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It's like start up bad.
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It's like, just like get a little bit, a
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little bit better every time until you're
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like, I have to come back.
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I don't believe now.
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I can make sure you
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guys have great weather.
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Just sort it out.
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So I sort out my travel.
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Anyways, that was awesome.
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And then I was just going to say just
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diving into the last
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couple of things that
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have been happening this
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week, a whole lot of build stuff.
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When I put out my newsletter, my personal
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newsletter, the Founders Journey one,
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you're going to see a bit more in the
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demos or sorry, a bit more in the
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background of things that I've been
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building that I can actually show.
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Cause a lot of stuff
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for clients he can't show.
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I was at a Techstars demo day yesterday,
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which I'll just show on screen now, I
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believe, if I can get this right.
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So I just put this out this morning.
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There were groups that were, there were
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different groups there.
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There were eight presentations, amazing
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women led kind of groups, doing a whole
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lot of stuff in various spaces, a lot
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using AI more so this year than I've seen
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before in any kind of cohort, not just
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Techstars, but others.
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called Understanding Zoe.
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Parents that built this app for other
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parents and anyone that needs to
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understand neurodivergent kids, right?
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Groupie, which is
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about how do you monetize?
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for business professionals.
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So how do you monetize it?
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People keep on tapping you for like ideas
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and thoughts where you can monetize that.
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So really great stuff.
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There was Nevim as well, Capable, two
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that I didn't get to
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see because I had to leave
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halfway through because I had to go to
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the Bitcoin kind of crypto in Sydney.
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The groups all came together for a
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Christmas party, so I had to go to that.
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It's an AI companion for women.
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member, sorry, mentor,
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assistant there, which is great.
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employees to voice their burnout
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misconduct and workplace
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concerns and stuff.
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both of the founders and chief marketing
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officer at those.
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So that's been me for the past week.
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What about you?
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Me?
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I've been I've been deep in customer and
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client activity work.
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You know, we've also gone full steam
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ahead with one of our AI projects.
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end of the year, December, things are
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Like it's it's been
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crazy over the last month.
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That's crazy.
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So I know January is
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going to be super exciting.
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But you can take a break.
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Nothing is I'll take a couple I'll take a
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week or two over the Christmas.
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I think I'm going to
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stop around on the 20th.
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So we can do it on a two
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weeks of awesome pretty.
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So you got to say, "Pendy"
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down there as a keyboard there.
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No, it's just keyboards.
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I didn't remember the
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last time he used a pen.
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I don't even know how to write.
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You didn't write?
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No.
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What is it?
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Just fun, fun story.
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Just on writing and stuff.
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I didn't realize this, but like in Japan,
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your signature, it's not a signature as
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we would like know it.
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You have something and I can't remember
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the term for it, but
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it's like a symbol, right?
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Yeah, I was telling you
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documents, it's with a symbol.
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So this guy was talking about when he
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came to Australia for
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the first time and he was
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asked for a signature on things.
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He didn't really have one.
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So he made his symbol thing, whatever the
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word, and I apologize
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for not remembering.
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I only saw this last night, but his
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symbol is a smiley face.
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So he had to sign a whole heap of these
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official documents with a
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smiley face until he was
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forced to actually get a
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signature kind of thing.
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So yeah, writing could
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actually be this lost art.
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We should go back to hieroglyphs.
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I'd like it to be easy to remember that.
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I know like historically, and I mean,
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Japan writing is an art form in itself.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, it's not surprising that
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that is a continuation in their culture.
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It's quite interesting.
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I like that.
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Yeah, I like it too.
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In any case, maybe AI could
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make up cool signatures for you.
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You never know.
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Um, I have here, um, by the way, some,
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this is going to keep us with sustenance
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throughout the podcast.
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This is, uh, I don't
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know what this is called.
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Um, but it's a Swedish snack.
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Uh, very salty bit licorice.
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Uh, I'm not sure you found a licorice,
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but I like this anyway,
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Swedish fish, check it out.
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Um, proper name for it.
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You're going to try it.
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I'm just going to try it right now.
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All right.
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Let's go.
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Good.
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He's just had breakfast.
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It's super salty.
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He's going to like it.
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Don't buy it.
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Like Chris just took tiniest little bite.
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That is a, that is a top level tang.
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I like it.
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I took a bite of half of it.
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Yeah.
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See, I took it to half mouth.
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I digress.
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Um, licorice or is it aniseed?
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Uh, aniseed licorice.
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It is similar.
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So, um, this is from the Christmas
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markets here in Martin place.
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Where has that is that is a salty.
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Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, check out
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the, uh, the Swedish lolly
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place, uh, to me, we'll sort you out.
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So anyways, I love licorice,
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but that is, that's intense.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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Um, what else is new for you this week?
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Oh, I got to finish my mouthful first.
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That was, I got you, bro.
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That's flavor.
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Um, that is a flavor.
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Well, I'm going to dump into, uh, I'm
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going to show you guys a cool demo of
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something that we've been building, uh,
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in the background and this will come
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out in the newsletter I do today.
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My, my personal one.
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Um, but open AI, as I mentioned, they are
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getting very festive.
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So they've got anything, which is they're
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calling it the 12 days of ship.
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Miss it includes Sora.
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Mary.
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Sora's going to come out, baby.
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It is happening.
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So it's happening.
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We don't know when on the 12 days, it
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could be the first one.
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I was going to say, cause there are two
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big 12 day announcer when it comes to,
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to the AI, the rumors
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are first one is OI one.
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Oh, one earliest.
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And the second one being saw one preview.
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What does OI one full, not the preview.
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Exactly.
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Lift the table, show us the whole thing.
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And let's just see.
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There's lots of rumors of what that'll
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look like, where it's, you know,
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fought file uploads and many, which
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obviously, um, follow command.
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Yeah.
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We can't do that with OI one.
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Yeah.
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So connecting all the peripherals,
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digital peripherals, like the, you know,
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uploading documents, having it brow,
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having OI one full being able to do that.
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But also I do wonder, cause the biggest
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complaint about OI one, and we saw this
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in previous episodes where I showed you
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guys that, um, if you try to actually
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get into the underlying prompts, the
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custom instructions,
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normally you can do that.
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Get lost.
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This one's telling you, no,
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you're, you're warned now.
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Yeah. On doing this, we will ban you.
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And there were recordings of users
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getting banned from chat, GPT for
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trying to do that kind of behavior.
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And it's just like, what the heck bro.
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And then a Chinese group came out with
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another very similar model to OI one.
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Or it's like, yeah.
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OI one Omni, um, where it does give you
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the underlying, here's how it
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actually did its thinking and stuff.
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So what I'm interested in is if OI one
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also, you know, do all those connections,
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will they open up
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things a little bit more?
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Who knows?
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Who knows?
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It's open AI, not really.
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But yeah, sorry, I, I,
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sorry, I saw a big one.
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I'm pretty excited about that.
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That's, um, that's
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also really interesting.
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I'm like, if we think about what they
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showed us almost 12 months ago now,
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saw, uh, when they, even now, if you look
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at some of those original videos,
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like there's even all the other ones that
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are out there, there's still
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like the quality is up there.
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So we can, I'm really excited to think
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what had happened in the 12 months.
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Being with the reflections, the person on
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the train or in this
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classic one through the streets of the
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city with cars driving by.
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Yeah.
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There's some of the footage that's come
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out in the last month or so has been
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pretty, pretty intense.
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Oh, it has been like, and you know, the
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other models, like, and if
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Sora is going to come out, seeing that
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they have seen all of these things
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that are out there, it just makes so much
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sense that whatever comes out is
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going to, you know, probably be, uh, way
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better than those other models from
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China, from runway,
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like runway ML has stuff.
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Yeah.
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I'm for video.
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And obviously we'll go
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out those in a minute.
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Minimax, Kling, which are both the
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Chinese kind of models and stuff.
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And they've been
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amazing with some things.
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But like, you know, just,
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just what they can do there.
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But, um, look at this, like 12 days, 12
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live streams, uh, a bunch of new
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things, big and small 12 days of open AI
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starts tomorrow, AKA today.
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Um, which is the six.
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So we'll probably start seeing some stuff
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tonight or maybe, I don't know.
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We'll, we'll see what happens.
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But what I was just going to say was how
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crazy is it that, um, Sam Altman just
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has all these things up his sleeve.
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Right.
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And I think there's probably stuff that
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he could just announce at any time.
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And they're just reactive to, okay,
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Google's Google is going to put out
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something or they, they put out something
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in the after, in the morning, in the
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afternoon, they've got Sora, they've got
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something big, so it's a pretty
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interesting tactic, um, releasing all of
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these 12, you know what that tells me?
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They've got way more in there.
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This is the 12 that they'll release.
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And if they're always got, you know,
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bowels in the chamber, guns in the
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bullets in the chamber, who knows?
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Well, I mean, it's leading into this, uh,
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you know, the rumors
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around AGI, but also,
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I don't know if you say,
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are you going to get AGI?
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Is that on the 12 days?
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Yeah, definitely not.
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It's a robot.
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You get a robot.
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Well, it depends on what, again, this is,
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and this is some of
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the articles I've been
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seeing recently is like, he's moving the
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goalposts around what AGI is and what it
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means, right?
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Which is kind of, it's a bit of a, you
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know, a kick in the pants.
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If he starts going, Hey, we've done AGI.
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And it's like, no, you haven't.
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This is, this is just a really smart
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model, but it's not a, it's not AGI in
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its truest form.
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Um, but you know, who knows?
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Maybe they did solve it and then they've
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had it on, you know,
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Apple lockdown kind of
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scenario and no one knows about it until
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it needs to be leaked and released.
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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,579
Um, on that note, chat GPT has 300
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million weekly users.
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Yes.
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What the heck?
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It's insane.
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Okay.
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So it's not quite, it's not quite Google
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level, but, um, not
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quite not yet, but on,
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on, on, on by here, we're talking by
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minute stats, but, um, it's crazy.
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It's crazy.
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But, um, look, we're, we're looking
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forward to the 12 days of shipments.
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Yeah.
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Um, which starts, oh my gosh.
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I don't know what that was.
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There was a bit of a,
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we'll, we'll edit that.
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We'd add.
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Hey, for the D five.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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I don't like, sorry.
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Tia.
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We're not, we're not that kind of show.
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Anyway.
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Um, you know, this is the thing Twitter
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is unhinged ever since Lord
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Elon took over and stuff.
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So it's all good.
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Uh, anyway, we see hats ready.
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We see everyone just
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really excited for this.
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I mean, in terms of like the, uh, 2.8
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million views on that
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tweet just from, um, yesterday.
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So really talk to me
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about the frontier model.
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The frontier model.
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01:13:41,060 --> 01:13:41,699
What do you mean?
514
01:13:41,899 --> 01:13:43,220
Well, the, the one of the big four that
515
01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:44,479
we've spoken about Sora, we've got
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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,920
Oh one frontier and
517
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,159
image to voice text video.
518
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:48,300
Other was four of the
519
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:49,220
big announcements within.
520
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,159
Oh, sorry.
521
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:51,220
You're looking at the show notes.
522
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,800
So, um, I'm, I'm saying that they could
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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,600
be releasing apart from Oh one,
524
01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:58,859
um, or maybe GPT for, uh, you know,
525
01:13:58,859 --> 01:14:00,840
they've got four turbo and then, you
526
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:01,859
know, that's what we had a few.
527
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,880
It could be that Oh one is the frontier
528
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,439
model or that we do get something
529
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,560
else was a GPT five and it would make
530
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,020
sense to me because for being this
531
01:14:12,020 --> 01:14:13,600
thing that can think you might need
532
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,979
something that doesn't do all the
533
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,619
reasoning that they're, they're looking
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01:14:16,619 --> 01:14:18,680
to do there, um, and release, you
535
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,739
know, new features to, uh, we still use
536
01:14:21,739 --> 01:14:24,340
in some ways, um, four Oh, four Oh,
537
01:14:24,380 --> 01:14:26,500
mini, uh, depending on what it is that
538
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:27,640
we're trying to do on here, show you
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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,479
something where I
540
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,880
built using four Oh mini.
541
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:32,760
Um, so what I meant by frontier is that
542
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,680
do we just get Oh one, or are we going
543
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,539
to get another frontier model?
544
01:14:36,539 --> 01:14:38,859
Like is, is there going to be a GPT five
545
01:14:38,859 --> 01:14:40,880
or it's just going to stick with like,
546
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,039
um, you know, Oh one becomes GPT five.
547
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:43,800
Yeah, we will see.
548
01:14:45,159 --> 01:14:47,119
So what have you got?
549
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:48,159
Um, yeah.
550
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:50,380
So, I mean, only you're sticking with,
551
01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:53,880
uh, um, this sort of trend of video
552
01:14:53,979 --> 01:14:55,140
that we're talking about in relation to
553
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:58,079
Sora, a couple of new, uh, tools have
554
01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:00,279
come out recently, open source video
555
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:03,659
generating has, uh, is, uh, is really
556
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,600
interesting space because currently a lot
557
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,279
of the tools are paid or paid gateway.
558
01:15:08,279 --> 01:15:09,880
This is an open source one done by an
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01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,699
Israel team called light tricks or LTX,
560
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,159
uh, LTX V is the model.
561
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:15,960
Um, and we switch over.
562
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:16,760
Go ahead.
563
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,579
And as you can see here, so light tricks,
564
01:15:18,579 --> 01:15:20,899
it's an open source AI video tool, which
565
01:15:20,899 --> 01:15:21,880
is challenging a lot of
566
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,260
the other big video tools.
567
01:15:23,460 --> 01:15:24,659
I don't think it's going to be as good as
568
01:15:24,659 --> 01:15:27,159
what Sora potentially is or will be, but
569
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:29,020
the most interesting thing about it is
570
01:15:29,020 --> 01:15:30,279
the fact that it is open source.
571
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,140
So you can actually jump
572
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:33,060
into, um, here it is here.
573
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,520
You can jump into the GitHub repository
574
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,699
that they provide on the page, download
575
01:15:37,699 --> 01:15:39,319
it and run these locally.
576
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,960
Um, and they talk about a lot
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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,800
of the, you know, the GPU power
578
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:44,239
consuming that you would need.
579
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:45,739
So if you're someone who has, you know,
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01:15:45,739 --> 01:15:48,520
40 80 or a 40 90 in your, in your system,
581
01:15:48,859 --> 01:15:50,220
you'll be able to generate some, you
582
01:15:50,220 --> 01:15:52,380
know, quite blank theme videos within,
583
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,239
you know, quite a quick time.
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01:15:54,460 --> 01:15:55,859
Light Rix light tricks,
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01:15:56,060 --> 01:15:57,479
light Rix light tricks.
586
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,300
Oh, yeah.
587
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:00,199
Light Rix light tricks.
588
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,840
We only like light Rix.
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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,520
Um, and LTX V is the,
590
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,539
uh, is the source model.
591
01:16:04,539 --> 01:16:05,739
So you can actually download that in your
592
01:16:05,739 --> 01:16:07,460
system right now and they generate it.
593
01:16:07,460 --> 01:16:08,739
I was looking around online to a couple
594
01:16:08,739 --> 01:16:09,920
of people were testing it out.
595
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:10,899
Some people got it working.
596
01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:12,560
I downloaded it and I
597
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:13,760
couldn't get it working myself.
598
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:15,579
Um, but I saw some other
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01:16:15,579 --> 01:16:17,199
people who did get it running.
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01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:18,460
Um, and some that was just
601
01:16:18,460 --> 01:16:19,779
taking ages for it to generate.
602
01:16:19,819 --> 01:16:22,399
So I don't know if it's, uh, you know
603
01:16:22,399 --> 01:16:24,279
what the status is for it, but, um, I
604
01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:26,479
spent like an hour trying to sell it out.
605
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:27,760
Um, just yesterday.
606
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,640
So I'm going to, I'll give it a go again
607
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,979
over the weekend and see how things go.
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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:32,079
Fantastic.
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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,479
Uh, I will 11 labs.
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01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:34,979
Yeah.
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01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:36,500
This is an interesting one.
612
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:39,199
Uh, Google LM, which is an amazing tool.
613
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:40,680
One of my favorites out there.
614
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,439
No, no, no book LM specifically.
615
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:42,800
Yep.
616
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:44,739
Um, there's so many things you can do
617
01:16:44,739 --> 01:16:46,500
with Google notebook, book LM, right?
618
01:16:46,579 --> 01:16:49,300
You can, especially if you're in, in news
619
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:50,640
or blogs or like the
620
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,739
ability for you to do
621
01:16:51,739 --> 01:16:53,279
really quick, accurate summaries, cause
622
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:55,220
Google knows how Google works.
623
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,100
So a lot of the output is really tailored
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01:16:58,100 --> 01:16:59,939
to the systems that, uh, that it's, um,
625
01:16:59,939 --> 01:17:01,579
that utilizing it in, you know, and then
626
01:17:01,579 --> 01:17:02,880
obviously you have the notebook LM, which
627
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,500
is the part I'm going to, um, address
628
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:06,220
here with the podcasting assets.
629
01:17:06,220 --> 01:17:07,239
So you can actually create a little 10
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01:17:07,239 --> 01:17:08,500
minute videos out of the content.
631
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,659
So these guys, 11 labs who you may have
632
01:17:10,659 --> 01:17:11,899
heard before, they do a lot of stuff
633
01:17:11,899 --> 01:17:14,380
around audio and, um, and visual content.
634
01:17:14,420 --> 01:17:16,119
And you can use one of
635
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:17,720
the existing actors there.
636
01:17:17,979 --> 01:17:19,239
And they, exactly right.
637
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:21,800
So they just released an app version for,
638
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,920
um, being able to
639
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:23,960
create podcast summaries.
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01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:26,420
So you can upload all of your, like quite
641
01:17:26,420 --> 01:17:28,300
a hefty amount of notes and information.
642
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,479
Um, whether it's summarizing your
643
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,300
articles or, you know, your transcripts
644
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:34,239
from things and jump it into the
645
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:37,159
application and then get a, um, audio
646
01:17:37,359 --> 01:17:40,199
output in a quite, you know, it's quite
647
01:17:40,199 --> 01:17:41,720
good podcasting format.
648
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:42,840
It's a little bit, I would say.
649
01:17:43,819 --> 01:17:46,020
I don't think it has the same fluidity
650
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:48,500
that you hear from, um, from Google,
651
01:17:48,859 --> 01:17:49,300
but, you know, just
652
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:50,659
another competitor out there.
653
01:17:50,659 --> 01:17:53,619
If you're utilizing the 11 labs ecosystem
654
01:17:53,619 --> 01:17:55,380
and sure, you know, this is another tool
655
01:17:55,380 --> 01:17:55,859
out there for you.
656
01:17:55,859 --> 01:17:56,760
It totally makes sense.
657
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,359
Plus it's on your own.
658
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,180
That's, that's the thing.
659
01:17:58,180 --> 01:17:58,579
It's an application.
660
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,680
So it's the, the anywhere usability for
661
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,699
this tool to do things on the phone.
662
01:18:03,699 --> 01:18:05,239
So there's notebook LM app.
663
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:05,600
There is.
664
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:05,699
Yeah.
665
01:18:05,699 --> 01:18:05,760
Yeah.
666
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,899
So, and you can, you can load in or say
667
01:18:08,899 --> 01:18:10,579
the thing that they added, um, that I
668
01:18:10,619 --> 01:18:12,159
think was a really good was that you
669
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:14,659
could, um, put in a YouTube video and it
670
01:18:14,659 --> 01:18:15,319
would give a summary
671
01:18:15,319 --> 01:18:16,140
of the YouTube video.
672
01:18:16,140 --> 01:18:17,619
So definitely throw this
673
01:18:17,619 --> 01:18:19,739
podcast into our notebook.
674
01:18:19,739 --> 01:18:20,119
LMS.
675
01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:21,699
Let's see what exactly where you can.
676
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,000
The great thing is that you can also do
677
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,140
like large volumes of content with
678
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:26,420
those, you can put multiple of YouTube
679
01:18:26,420 --> 01:18:28,199
videos and multiple documents and notes
680
01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:29,159
and then ask them to do a
681
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:30,159
summary of all that stuff.
682
01:18:30,779 --> 01:18:32,239
Um, but yeah, so this is just like a,
683
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:34,539
it's like a streamlined model, um, that
684
01:18:34,539 --> 01:18:36,260
anyone can can get their hands off.
685
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:37,659
Um, which is really cool.
686
01:18:37,659 --> 01:18:38,539
So like that bit of
687
01:18:38,539 --> 01:18:39,220
competition out there.
688
01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:40,300
Uh, right.
689
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:42,479
And one way LM they've really seen a
690
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:43,600
recently done an update
691
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,399
gen three alpha, um, really,
692
01:18:48,079 --> 01:18:49,199
really powerful updates
693
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:50,539
to their image generation.
694
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,020
Uh, but one of the most interesting
695
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:52,699
features that are
696
01:18:52,699 --> 01:18:53,699
liked, uh, this, I haven't
697
01:18:53,699 --> 01:18:56,239
tested out of any scene in, in, in live
698
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:58,340
motion, um, is the ability for you to
699
01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:00,760
upload like videos into the tool, whether
700
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,039
it's in portrait mode
701
01:19:02,039 --> 01:19:03,560
or landscape and then
702
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,439
create fill for that
703
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,659
particular video as well.
704
01:19:06,939 --> 01:19:08,800
Facing like old movie scenes and
705
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,260
expanding and it adds in
706
01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:12,760
all of the context in some
707
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,119
of these things I've seen, it does, it
708
01:19:14,119 --> 01:19:14,819
has, gets a little bit
709
01:19:14,819 --> 01:19:15,739
funny and other things
710
01:19:15,739 --> 01:19:16,539
I've seen like just
711
01:19:16,539 --> 01:19:18,079
wow, what it actually does.
712
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,140
Um, so it's, it's
713
01:19:20,140 --> 01:19:21,539
pretty powerful, pretty cool.
714
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,960
Definitely something to have a play with.
715
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,579
If you're, if you're in that video space
716
01:19:24,579 --> 01:19:27,659
and you don't want to fast track, I'm
717
01:19:27,659 --> 01:19:29,119
making better videos, like bringing up
718
01:19:29,119 --> 01:19:32,220
old family footage and then adding some
719
01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:33,020
aliens.
720
01:19:33,859 --> 01:19:34,300
Oh wait, no.
721
01:19:34,579 --> 01:19:35,619
And then you can take that and then put
722
01:19:35,619 --> 01:19:36,859
it into one of like the, you know, the
723
01:19:36,859 --> 01:19:38,579
4k image upscalers as well.
724
01:19:38,579 --> 01:19:39,760
And so I can rewrite a handset.
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01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,619
So now you've got this almost an odd and
726
01:19:41,619 --> 01:19:43,199
looking video or something from, from
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01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:44,439
good old ancient times.
728
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:45,899
It's, it'll be like those movies, like
729
01:19:45,899 --> 01:19:47,899
from the nineties or naughty kind of like
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01:19:48,020 --> 01:19:51,060
enhance, enhance and well,
731
01:19:51,060 --> 01:19:53,960
and it does, the hallucinations I might
732
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:54,960
occur and that would be pretty funny.
733
01:19:55,380 --> 01:19:57,199
Um, something that I think the white dude
734
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:59,060
became Asian, but yeah, hands
735
01:19:59,140 --> 01:20:01,279
up, it's like a family trick.
736
01:20:01,779 --> 01:20:04,800
Um, so something that I find, uh, that,
737
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,060
that happened not during the last week,
738
01:20:07,060 --> 01:20:08,939
but within the last two weeks, but it is
739
01:20:08,939 --> 01:20:10,800
important to cover is that here in
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01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,720
Australia, um, there were consultations
741
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,180
by different departments, the part of the
742
01:20:16,180 --> 01:20:17,520
industry, uh, or
743
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,640
innovation science and resources.
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01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,140
Um, department of health
745
01:20:20,140 --> 01:20:21,680
also did an AI consultation.
746
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,520
The department of industry innovation one
747
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,239
was, um, bigger 245 responses.
748
01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:30,800
And what happened was that, uh, a select
749
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,460
committee, Senate select committee
750
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,640
basically took those responses, took
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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,279
other industry
752
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:36,479
consultations and stuff that
753
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,659
they did and came up with 13
754
01:20:38,659 --> 01:20:40,159
recommendations for parliament.
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01:20:40,699 --> 01:20:42,260
Now, whether or not these go in, these
756
01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:44,000
are just recommendations, but this is
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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,720
recommendations from a group that has
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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,619
influence so we could likely see
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01:20:48,619 --> 01:20:49,500
something like this happen.
760
01:20:49,979 --> 01:20:51,600
One of the biggest things that I think,
761
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,260
um, was a surprise to industry in some
762
01:20:55,340 --> 01:20:56,760
many industries, especially from the tech
763
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,920
side was that they considered, um,
764
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:03,640
the general purpose models, chat GBT, uh,
765
01:21:03,899 --> 01:21:05,079
Claude Gemini, et
766
01:21:05,079 --> 01:21:06,600
cetera, to be high risk.
767
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:07,500
Ooh.
768
01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:08,260
Right.
769
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,760
Many in, uh, the space that we work with,
770
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,279
we helped the build club, for example,
771
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:13,699
that sits out here at stone and chalk
772
01:21:13,699 --> 01:21:15,460
where we film, um, they're over a
773
01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:18,380
hay market mostly, but many, um, in that
774
01:21:18,380 --> 01:21:20,340
community thought that, well, we should
775
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:22,680
have a high risk category and that that
776
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,420
should have mandatory guardrails, but
777
01:21:24,460 --> 01:21:26,100
general purpose doesn't really count as
778
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:28,819
high risk because it's, yeah, it's just
779
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,579
like recommendation system, like, sorry,
780
01:21:31,859 --> 01:21:33,399
you could classify AI
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01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:34,800
that recommends you,
782
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,840
um, like what place to go to, you know,
783
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,100
for, for a trip, that's going to be the
784
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:41,220
thing that's powering that is now going
785
01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:43,260
to be considered like, um, high risk.
786
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:44,579
Anyway, they had other
787
01:21:44,579 --> 01:21:46,300
recommendations in there.
788
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:47,600
Um, this is not the law.
789
01:21:47,819 --> 01:21:48,960
There's still going to be, you know, some
790
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,380
back and forth on this, but it is quite
791
01:21:51,739 --> 01:21:53,479
interesting and some might say concerning
792
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,439
that tools like chat GBT are considered
793
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,640
high risk and what that could entail.
794
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:01,479
It might need more regulations.
795
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,020
It could be, um, innovation for anyone
796
01:22:04,020 --> 01:22:05,979
building like us, like depending on what
797
01:22:05,979 --> 01:22:08,000
we, you know, needs to happen there, if
798
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,359
everything that we use, the core models
799
01:22:10,359 --> 01:22:11,840
are considered high risk, what do we need
800
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:12,920
a license for those?
801
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,319
I mean, there's a good, there's a good
802
01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:16,380
thing and a bad thing to do with this.
803
01:22:16,380 --> 01:22:18,600
Like the bad thing is, is guardrails can
804
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,340
halt innovation or, you know, prevent
805
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,760
people from utilizing it the way, you
806
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,380
know, that we, we would want to be used
807
01:22:25,380 --> 01:22:27,140
and be helpful and meaningful for people
808
01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:30,079
on the flip side, it does start to put
809
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:32,239
pressure on these businesses to make sure
810
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:33,479
they are putting the right checks and
811
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,680
balances in place because right now all
812
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:36,819
those checks and balances, they are
813
01:22:36,819 --> 01:22:38,460
managed by industry, they're not only
814
01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:40,220
managed by, you know, governing
815
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:41,039
authorities.
816
01:22:41,399 --> 01:22:41,600
Yeah.
817
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,399
Um, and which means that, you know, what
818
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:45,920
they state is you should be following
819
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,439
these guardrails aren't legal.
820
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:49,020
They're not law.
821
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:50,539
And therefore you could, is that what we
822
01:22:50,539 --> 01:22:51,220
should go choose them on.
823
01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:52,579
There's no checks and balances for it.
824
01:22:52,579 --> 01:22:53,760
It's just like an agreement that a bunch
825
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,779
of corporate companies have.
826
01:22:55,180 --> 01:22:56,659
And this is where, you know, we, we
827
01:22:56,659 --> 01:22:57,720
believe in guardrails.
828
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,479
And that's why we said that, um, coming
829
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:00,979
from the blockchain space, we could have
830
01:23:00,979 --> 01:23:03,020
something where if you need, for example,
831
01:23:03,260 --> 01:23:04,840
one of the things that I do massively
832
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,100
agree with is especially in high risk use
833
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:09,699
cases, think legal financial advice,
834
01:23:09,699 --> 01:23:12,279
healthcare, um, clinical like advice that
835
01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:14,020
doctors give, I don't care that they're
836
01:23:14,020 --> 01:23:15,699
using AI, I just want to make sure that
837
01:23:15,699 --> 01:23:18,239
human, a trained qualified human has been
838
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:19,500
in the loop of that process
839
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:20,659
and read the final outputs.
840
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:21,579
And they're trained and
841
01:23:21,579 --> 01:23:23,220
qualified, not in a, not with AI.
842
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:25,520
Well, yes, that's what I mean.
843
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,060
But like having it so that, um, the
844
01:23:28,060 --> 01:23:29,479
qualified professional, like we have in
845
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,020
the real world, we are having assurance,
846
01:23:32,020 --> 01:23:34,520
like a digital assurance that is recorded
847
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,199
a to blockchain, maybe not at first, but
848
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:38,800
even if it is recorded to just the
849
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,000
database, having it kept in a way that we
850
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,859
don't have all of this extra data that
851
01:23:43,859 --> 01:23:45,359
could be leaked, that could be prone to
852
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:46,319
cybersecurity hacks.
853
01:23:46,319 --> 01:23:47,420
And that's why we put zero knowledge
854
01:23:47,420 --> 01:23:48,340
proofs on top of it.
855
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,880
Um, so that you can, you can prove things
856
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,600
about data without me actually sharing
857
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,779
everything with Chris, like I
858
01:23:53,779 --> 01:23:54,800
have to do in the real world.
859
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:55,720
So anyway, I think
860
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:56,899
that this is necessary.
861
01:23:56,899 --> 01:23:58,140
All these discussions are happening.
862
01:23:58,779 --> 01:24:01,079
Um, and that there is a way to put in
863
01:24:01,079 --> 01:24:02,800
guardrails without stifling innovation.
864
01:24:03,060 --> 01:24:04,380
So we'll see what happens there.
865
01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:06,800
But I had some, uh, takes on it that I
866
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,220
shared on, uh, LinkedIn.
867
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,220
Um, and then you can just, uh, actually
868
01:24:11,220 --> 01:24:12,300
this is, this is something else.
869
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:13,420
My takes on it here.
870
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,399
Sorry, I'm just going to
871
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:15,340
close all these messages.
872
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,300
Um, dedicated AI
873
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:18,640
legislation is really great.
874
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,180
Principal based approach is also good.
875
01:24:20,619 --> 01:24:22,380
Um, including general purpose models, I
876
01:24:22,380 --> 01:24:24,279
think, uh, as we discussed is, you know,
877
01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:24,819
something to be
878
01:24:24,819 --> 01:24:26,000
discussed kind of further.
879
01:24:26,399 --> 01:24:28,680
Um, but there, there was a great call
880
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,000
for, um, supporting
881
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,439
sovereign AI capability
882
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,520
that we don't have to just rely only on
883
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,239
the models overseas.
884
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,720
And given a lot of the open source, um,
885
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,260
push in AI, there are groups that are
886
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:41,619
actually pushing to, to create like, um,
887
01:24:41,619 --> 01:24:43,659
there's a guy named Prem, um, and he's
888
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,640
doing something, I think it's like
889
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,859
kangaroo, LLM, like a sovereign Aussie,
890
01:24:47,859 --> 01:24:49,680
you know, kind of like AI thing, which
891
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,819
could be very much, you know,
892
01:24:50,819 --> 01:24:52,819
but talks in AI and speak as well.
893
01:24:52,819 --> 01:24:53,020
Yeah.
894
01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:54,979
Hopefully anyway, get a C-bag.
895
01:24:54,979 --> 01:24:55,260
Yeah.
896
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,880
If you give it like more, um, if you tell
897
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,220
it that you've had a lot of drinks,
898
01:24:59,220 --> 01:25:01,079
it actually speaks to you as if it's like
899
01:25:01,079 --> 01:25:02,800
from the Aussie that's had a lot of
900
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,319
drinks, it's like, bring
901
01:25:05,319 --> 01:25:07,619
back Russell Coates anyway.
902
01:25:08,819 --> 01:25:10,100
Uh, so, so that was,
903
01:25:10,340 --> 01:25:11,340
uh, that's a big thing.
904
01:25:11,359 --> 01:25:13,880
I think there, um, about that, uh, Senate
905
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,439
inquiry and there are videos from the
906
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,319
Senate talking about it, but it's, it's
907
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:19,859
always funny cause it's like, they'll
908
01:25:19,859 --> 01:25:21,199
talk about things and it's just like,
909
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:22,819
there needs to be definitions of this.
910
01:25:22,819 --> 01:25:24,720
Like there isn't just AI and you're
911
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,079
talking about generative AI.
912
01:25:26,319 --> 01:25:28,340
AI also means just like the Netflix
913
01:25:28,340 --> 01:25:29,439
recommendation engine.
914
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:30,279
Does that need to be
915
01:25:30,279 --> 01:25:31,359
considered high risk now?
916
01:25:31,359 --> 01:25:33,079
Like they need, hopefully there will be
917
01:25:33,079 --> 01:25:35,479
like, um, really detailed definition.
918
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:36,520
That's always one of the biggest things
919
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,600
that, um, industry comes back with
920
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:39,380
whenever government has
921
01:25:39,380 --> 01:25:40,300
like some consultation.
922
01:25:40,359 --> 01:25:40,859
It's like, well, what
923
01:25:40,859 --> 01:25:41,600
do you mean by this?
924
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,640
So we will see, we'll keep an eye on it
925
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:44,439
and we'll keep you posted.
926
01:25:45,119 --> 01:25:45,319
Excellent.
927
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:47,180
Well, I see sticking to business and
928
01:25:47,180 --> 01:25:49,300
industry and thropic just released a
929
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,880
pretty cool updates, um, allowing them
930
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,800
model to support, I guess businesses
931
01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:56,880
and, you know, to the type of AI activity
932
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:57,859
that they're doing, whether they're
933
01:25:57,859 --> 01:25:59,859
implementing their own LM tools or, um,
934
01:25:59,859 --> 01:26:01,060
with their organization to read their
935
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:01,680
own data.
936
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,840
So currently, um, uh, Claude doesn't have
937
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,899
the ability to, I guess, read
938
01:26:07,979 --> 01:26:09,359
current news and current affairs and
939
01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:10,739
current documentation has to be
940
01:26:10,739 --> 01:26:11,979
prompted or attached
941
01:26:11,979 --> 01:26:12,920
to something to do it.
942
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:17,340
Unlike, um, open AI, even Google, um, and
943
01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:18,939
Google's tools accordingly, they
944
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:21,100
have open access to the live web.
945
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,659
Claude's has, it only gets information as
946
01:26:23,659 --> 01:26:24,739
it gets its own updates.
947
01:26:24,739 --> 01:26:25,939
So every time a new update comes out for
948
01:26:25,939 --> 01:26:27,060
Claude, that's when it gets all the
949
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,180
latest information and update
950
01:26:28,180 --> 01:26:29,439
from, from the, from the web.
951
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,539
So what they've done is to support
952
01:26:31,539 --> 01:26:33,039
organizations who are looking to, who
953
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:35,600
need that sort of live access or even
954
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,380
access to their documentations in live
955
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:38,899
web, as they're pushed into, you know,
956
01:26:38,899 --> 01:26:40,300
their own folder structures within
957
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:40,859
their business.
958
01:26:41,460 --> 01:26:43,100
Um, they've got API protocols now that
959
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:45,300
allow them to the Claude to maintain
960
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:47,579
that update in real time with information
961
01:26:47,579 --> 01:26:48,560
on their own servers.
962
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,100
Um, so that API is API is live and
963
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:52,479
accessible for businesses and they can
964
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:53,359
start and actually, you
965
01:26:53,359 --> 01:26:54,539
know, putting their own.
966
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:57,939
Claude LLM tool is into practice with,
967
01:26:57,939 --> 01:26:59,899
with cloud with this, with the security
968
01:26:59,899 --> 01:27:01,300
and assurance that that data isn't going
969
01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:03,260
to get leaked, um, to the internet.
970
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:04,920
Leaky data, no good.
971
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:05,819
Yeah.
972
01:27:06,140 --> 01:27:07,180
Um, an exciting one
973
01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:08,000
that actually came out.
974
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,319
There's some really, there's like a lot
975
01:27:09,319 --> 01:27:11,159
of really minor small things in use and
976
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:12,819
some like really cool, big things that
977
01:27:12,819 --> 01:27:14,140
have happened over the last week or
978
01:27:14,140 --> 01:27:14,619
at war.
979
01:27:14,619 --> 01:27:16,500
So, um, one of the biggest one, and this
980
01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:18,060
is, you know, you touched on open AI
981
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,020
with their drip feeding announcements.
982
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:22,439
And you mentioned Google and Google had a
983
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:23,600
really big one, which is
984
01:27:23,619 --> 01:27:26,800
genie version two, I don't know if you
985
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,960
guys, if anyone listening had seen
986
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,640
genie version one, so essentially this is
987
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,819
a game live game generating.
988
01:27:33,079 --> 01:27:35,100
Oh, so it, what it actually,
989
01:27:35,140 --> 01:27:36,239
is it the one that they did Minecraft?
990
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:37,659
Uh, yes.
991
01:27:37,659 --> 01:27:38,159
Yeah, yeah.
992
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:39,380
So well, a version of that.
993
01:27:39,380 --> 01:27:39,579
Yes.
994
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,319
So the version that came out previously
995
01:27:41,319 --> 01:27:43,279
was very low resolution.
996
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,180
We're talking, you know, you know, I
997
01:27:45,180 --> 01:27:46,020
think it was like 250
998
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:46,939
pixels or something.
999
01:27:47,420 --> 01:27:50,380
Um, and essentially it's generating video
1000
01:27:50,380 --> 01:27:52,140
game environments in real time for you
1001
01:27:52,140 --> 01:27:53,199
to interact and play with.
1002
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,100
So Google just had version two of that
1003
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,739
just released and this is now, so it's a
1004
01:27:56,739 --> 01:27:57,819
large scale, higher
1005
01:27:57,819 --> 01:27:59,760
resolution for the video format.
1006
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:02,640
Um, but most importantly, and this is
1007
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:03,699
what being lacking in the previous
1008
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,800
one is its memory capabilities.
1009
01:28:06,579 --> 01:28:08,619
So what you couldn't, what it previously
1010
01:28:08,619 --> 01:28:10,880
do is like, you may have taken too far
1011
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,800
a step into a generated environment, then
1012
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,560
turned around and gone back to another.
1013
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,260
So someone did it in Minecraft where they
1014
01:28:18,260 --> 01:28:20,560
spun the character around 360 degrees
1015
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,140
and slowly noted the different
1016
01:28:22,140 --> 01:28:22,939
environment things
1017
01:28:22,939 --> 01:28:23,899
like, oh, there's a house
1018
01:28:23,899 --> 01:28:24,779
that's been around and
1019
01:28:24,779 --> 01:28:25,939
spin around, spin around.
1020
01:28:25,939 --> 01:28:28,000
The house has gone because it's
1021
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,159
generating new stuff.
1022
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:30,180
They didn't have memory.
1023
01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:31,020
It didn't have memory.
1024
01:28:31,359 --> 01:28:33,640
So what genie two now has is memory to
1025
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,500
actually remember those 3d environments
1026
01:28:35,500 --> 01:28:36,880
as like, Albeitz is
1027
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,180
within a certain field.
1028
01:28:38,180 --> 01:28:39,859
So if you stop too far that range,
1029
01:28:39,859 --> 01:28:41,520
obviously, and you move back, what's out
1030
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,340
of vision, that stuff will read,
1031
01:28:43,539 --> 01:28:45,000
regenerate, but this
1032
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,899
new capability allows
1033
01:28:45,899 --> 01:28:47,279
it to see things through that.
1034
01:28:47,279 --> 01:28:48,380
And even in the videos, you can see
1035
01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:50,100
things are still a little bit blurry and
1036
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:51,539
it doesn't generate texts and likes
1037
01:28:51,539 --> 01:28:53,079
there's some, you know, volumetric
1038
01:28:53,279 --> 01:28:55,119
issues and lighting a bit lower place.
1039
01:28:55,399 --> 01:28:56,939
But man, it's the fact that it's in
1040
01:28:56,939 --> 01:28:58,420
generating these environments that you're
1041
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,180
able to interact with in real time and
1042
01:29:00,180 --> 01:29:02,300
have the memory to hold onto that
1043
01:29:02,300 --> 01:29:03,420
information as you're, as you're
1044
01:29:03,420 --> 01:29:05,159
exploring it is, is intense.
1045
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:07,079
And that is really showing how far some
1046
01:29:07,079 --> 01:29:08,760
of these game environments are going.
1047
01:29:09,020 --> 01:29:10,380
That is pretty damn intense.
1048
01:29:10,380 --> 01:29:10,939
I like it.
1049
01:29:10,939 --> 01:29:11,279
I love it.
1050
01:29:11,539 --> 01:29:11,859
I love it.
1051
01:29:11,859 --> 01:29:13,180
That is super exciting for me.
1052
01:29:13,420 --> 01:29:13,819
All right.
1053
01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:16,500
Uh, cut, uh, let's go to this one here.
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So, um, Dr.
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01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,859
Kim Ushoizen, uh, she is
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over at, uh, I think it's SAP.
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01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:23,699
I hope that's SAP.
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01:29:24,079 --> 01:29:27,920
Anyway, um, presented with her at, um, a
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01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,760
FinTech marketplace event where I was
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01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:31,880
the MC, which is great.
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01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:32,760
It's always fun to MC.
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01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:33,220
Very nice.
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01:29:33,500 --> 01:29:35,479
Um, and anyway, I see as well.
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01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:36,039
I'm see.
1065
01:29:36,039 --> 01:29:36,659
Yeah, I see.
1066
01:29:36,659 --> 01:29:37,699
I wrap IMC.
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01:29:39,039 --> 01:29:40,779
My money don't jiggle jiggle it.
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01:29:40,779 --> 01:29:40,979
Yeah.
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01:29:41,260 --> 01:29:42,199
Um, copyright.
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01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,060
So, uh, she, she
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01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:47,319
highlighted at this CFO summit.
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01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:49,619
So the AFR did a crypto summit recently,
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01:29:49,619 --> 01:29:51,760
and then there was a CFO summit.
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01:29:52,279 --> 01:29:55,460
Um, speaking of the crypto one, um, Alan,
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01:29:55,460 --> 01:29:57,960
uh, who's the chairman of, uh,
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01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,420
Alsik, Alan, Alan, Steve, uh, he said at
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01:30:01,420 --> 01:30:03,060
the crypto summit, which is similar in
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01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:04,979
style to this CFO summit, either crypto
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01:30:04,979 --> 01:30:06,060
one was that there's going to be
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01:30:06,060 --> 01:30:07,640
regulations, Asik, you're going to like
1081
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,739
push for, and here's how we're going to,
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01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:10,399
here's the things we're
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01:30:10,399 --> 01:30:11,619
looking to enforce and stuff.
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01:30:11,619 --> 01:30:13,300
And they just came out with an info paper
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01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:14,979
to two five, which is
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01:30:14,979 --> 01:30:16,100
open for consultation.
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01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:17,840
It's going to mean many things.
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01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,300
It might mean the shutdown of some
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01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:20,539
businesses that might mean opportunities
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01:30:20,779 --> 01:30:21,220
for others.
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01:30:21,579 --> 01:30:23,100
We'll dive into that another time.
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01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,699
Um, but just mentioning that because as
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01:30:25,699 --> 01:30:27,500
we can see here, there was a CFO summit.
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01:30:28,119 --> 01:30:30,399
So Kim's on stage here with, uh, other
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01:30:30,399 --> 01:30:33,520
groups, um, whole lot of CFOs, as you can
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01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,579
imagine and technology people.
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01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,899
So it was like Kim from SAP, McGraw,
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01:30:37,899 --> 01:30:39,199
nickel, which is another great company.
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01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,800
Um, they're head of technology
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01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,699
to digital takeaways from Kim.
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01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,859
Um, that I had option tends to become
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01:30:45,859 --> 01:30:47,500
patchy when all that organizations
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01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,619
aren't ready for AI.
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01:30:48,739 --> 01:30:50,539
And we see a lot of that, um, you and I,
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01:30:50,539 --> 01:30:53,539
Chris, um, AI literacy gaps, big thing,
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01:30:53,539 --> 01:30:54,340
leadership and employees
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01:30:54,340 --> 01:30:55,779
not fully understanding AI.
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01:30:56,119 --> 01:30:58,420
So there's an education thing there, uh,
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01:30:58,420 --> 01:31:00,619
data challenges, poor data quality silos,
1110
01:31:00,619 --> 01:31:03,220
et cetera, definitely an issue, but you
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01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:04,720
know, you can actually get AI to help
1112
01:31:04,979 --> 01:31:06,819
fill in the gaps, help clean up things as
1113
01:31:06,819 --> 01:31:08,359
well, legacy systems.
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01:31:08,359 --> 01:31:09,100
So maybe not being
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01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:10,119
able to connect to things.
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01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:10,460
Fine.
1117
01:31:11,039 --> 01:31:12,659
Uh, that needs to be worked out the
1118
01:31:12,659 --> 01:31:13,600
ethical and regulatory
1119
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:14,960
concerns on the ethical side.
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01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,319
It's not just like bringing in.
1121
01:31:16,319 --> 01:31:17,899
And we see many talk about this.
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01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,119
You can't just like bring in a tool and
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01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:21,880
then not have any employee buy in.
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01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:23,680
And what do you expect?
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01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,319
Like they, they may walk out, they may
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01:31:25,319 --> 01:31:27,720
rebel, they may, you know, um, get
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01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,279
plans for the Death Star and give it to
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01:31:30,279 --> 01:31:32,920
whoever, but in any case, like it's a
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01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,520
cultural kind of thing, it has to be this
1130
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,500
all encompassing and I've seen groups
1131
01:31:37,500 --> 01:31:39,239
that do it well where they're like, we're
1132
01:31:39,239 --> 01:31:40,239
not going to tell you what to do with the
1133
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:41,840
AI, but we're going to provide you a safe
1134
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,739
way to access AI and see how it could
1135
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,340
become useful and yeah, we'll
1136
01:31:46,340 --> 01:31:47,659
help train if you want that.
1137
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:47,979
Yeah.
1138
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,779
Um, that not forcing it.
1139
01:31:50,020 --> 01:31:51,340
And I think, um, some really interesting
1140
01:31:51,340 --> 01:31:53,760
kind of topics come up whenever you talk.
1141
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,659
I was, I was at a superannuation event.
1142
01:31:56,119 --> 01:31:56,720
Um, they're talking
1143
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:57,819
about like innovation.
1144
01:31:57,819 --> 01:31:59,439
I was, you know, this event here for
1145
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,939
CFOs, even the crypto industry and the
1146
01:32:01,939 --> 01:32:02,600
blockchain industry,
1147
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,760
seeing how AI is useful there.
1148
01:32:05,279 --> 01:32:07,340
So worth, um, you know, looking at in
1149
01:32:07,340 --> 01:32:08,920
whatever industry you're in, trying to
1150
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,600
get involved in those conversations.
1151
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:11,979
Um, and these events,
1152
01:32:11,979 --> 01:32:12,739
I think it's important.
1153
01:32:12,979 --> 01:32:13,260
Yep.
1154
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:14,000
Yeah.
1155
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:14,279
Very nice.
1156
01:32:16,340 --> 01:32:16,859
Um,
1157
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:17,899
yours or?
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01:32:18,220 --> 01:32:18,399
Yeah.
1159
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:18,939
Well, I know a couple
1160
01:32:18,939 --> 01:32:19,939
of small minor things.
1161
01:32:19,939 --> 01:32:20,600
I won't, I won't show any
1162
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:21,739
of the content for this.
1163
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:23,020
So yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll do, we've
1164
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,380
got a couple of interesting demos that we
1165
01:32:24,380 --> 01:32:26,000
just want to showcase some really cool,
1166
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,819
uh, websites that we've been building.
1167
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:29,399
Well, sorry, not me, but you've been
1168
01:32:29,399 --> 01:32:31,199
building and some stuff I've been testing
1169
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:32,060
out in the sales space.
1170
01:32:32,060 --> 01:32:33,579
So I thought I wanted to showcase that.
1171
01:32:33,739 --> 01:32:34,760
Like, um, small news,
1172
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,640
Alibaba has entered the LM space.
1173
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,579
They're competing with the likes of O1.
1174
01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:40,680
Um, so keep an eye on that.
1175
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:41,960
I think there's, there's kind of a, you
1176
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,199
know, the likes of China and all the, the
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01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:46,699
big AI tools coming out there.
1178
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:47,859
A huge powerhouses.
1179
01:32:47,859 --> 01:32:49,039
So there's a lot of pressure and
1180
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:50,899
competition on, on, you know, American
1181
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,199
counterparts, um, and DaVinci, one of the
1182
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:54,279
more exciting ones that I'm pretty,
1183
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:56,380
I really liked, um, I think she is in the
1184
01:32:56,380 --> 01:32:58,960
eventually resolve, which is a, um,
1185
01:32:59,220 --> 01:33:00,699
a video editing tool, which I have.
1186
01:33:00,699 --> 01:33:01,300
This is brought to
1187
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:02,439
you as DaVinci resolve.
1188
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:02,760
Yeah.
1189
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,640
So they've just updated their image
1190
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,399
tracker, um, capabilities.
1191
01:33:06,659 --> 01:33:08,119
So now you can actually track the
1192
01:33:08,119 --> 01:33:09,819
elements, changed a particular thing.
1193
01:33:09,819 --> 01:33:10,739
That is a lotion acne
1194
01:33:10,739 --> 01:33:12,140
in really high quality.
1195
01:33:12,460 --> 01:33:14,359
So next time you see this video, you'll
1196
01:33:14,359 --> 01:33:16,659
see Mark shifting around and lots of
1197
01:33:16,699 --> 01:33:18,300
vibrant colors, I'll change them out.
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01:33:18,300 --> 01:33:18,859
There we go.
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01:33:18,859 --> 01:33:18,979
Yeah.
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01:33:18,979 --> 01:33:19,619
Oh, look, I can see
1201
01:33:19,619 --> 01:33:20,380
myself there on mirror.
1202
01:33:22,399 --> 01:33:23,060
So that's pretty cool.
1203
01:33:23,399 --> 01:33:25,119
So, um, yeah, definitely check those out.
1204
01:33:25,119 --> 01:33:25,699
I'll get into this now.
1205
01:33:26,180 --> 01:33:27,340
Um, really cool stuff.
1206
01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:29,680
I wanted to show, uh, before I go to the
1207
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,579
thing that I'm building, um, I wanted to
1208
01:33:32,579 --> 01:33:34,739
show something from, uh, one of our
1209
01:33:34,739 --> 01:33:37,020
friends, Michael Wang, president of the
1210
01:33:37,020 --> 01:33:38,479
data science and AI association.
1211
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,380
And I am the former president there, but
1212
01:33:41,380 --> 01:33:43,880
he built this tool, um, basically.
1213
01:33:45,359 --> 01:33:47,260
Which goes into AI papers.
1214
01:33:47,260 --> 01:33:48,020
So here's a whole heap
1215
01:33:48,020 --> 01:33:49,100
of different AI papers.
1216
01:33:49,699 --> 01:33:50,560
You can click on it.
1217
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:51,699
You can chat with it.
1218
01:33:51,699 --> 01:33:53,500
You can, um, read the paper.
1219
01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:55,659
You can use AI to help explain things,
1220
01:33:55,659 --> 01:33:56,939
but a really cool, he
1221
01:33:56,939 --> 01:33:57,939
calls it one minute papers.
1222
01:33:58,579 --> 01:34:00,060
Um, there's also like a two minute
1223
01:34:00,060 --> 01:34:01,699
papers, YouTube video, but this one's
1224
01:34:01,699 --> 01:34:02,859
like far more interactive.
1225
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:03,800
I love it.
1226
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:04,840
I love this tinkering
1227
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,520
and speaking of tinkering.
1228
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,579
Um, I guess the, the, the thing that I
1229
01:34:08,579 --> 01:34:10,520
really want to show is that Chris and I,
1230
01:34:10,619 --> 01:34:11,960
we, we run something called the
1231
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:12,560
Australian Deep Eye
1232
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,199
Association along with Arturo,
1233
01:34:14,659 --> 01:34:17,279
along with, um, Francis and all the other
1234
01:34:17,279 --> 01:34:19,539
people in different states that have all
1235
01:34:19,539 --> 01:34:21,279
been part of like the blockchain journey.
1236
01:34:21,279 --> 01:34:22,340
We film it each month.
1237
01:34:22,779 --> 01:34:24,399
Next week, we're actually going to do
1238
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:25,800
something called Stand with Crypto.
1239
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:27,800
So, um, I'll just actually
1240
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,760
get that up on screen right now.
1241
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,739
Uh, but basically Stand with Crypto is an
1242
01:34:31,739 --> 01:34:33,739
event that we're doing with our friends
1243
01:34:33,739 --> 01:34:36,600
at Coinbase, and there's a whole heap of,
1244
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,119
um, basically people that have signed up
1245
01:34:38,119 --> 01:34:39,300
over a hundred so far.
1246
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,560
Uh, this is going to be at Stone and
1247
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:42,880
Chalk over in
1248
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,180
Haymarket, but we filmed these
1249
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:47,520
events, um, Stand with Crypto is like a
1250
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,319
movement to help support and bring
1251
01:34:49,399 --> 01:34:50,579
different industries and government
1252
01:34:50,579 --> 01:34:51,899
closer together when it comes to the
1253
01:34:51,899 --> 01:34:52,659
blockchain industry.
1254
01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:54,960
So yeah, 101 signed up so far.
1255
01:34:55,359 --> 01:34:56,300
Uh, so that's all on
1256
01:34:56,300 --> 01:34:57,520
the OzD5 side of things.
1257
01:34:57,979 --> 01:34:59,800
We are going to create a new website and
1258
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,319
I'll show you the old website folks,
1259
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,659
because, uh, this is something that, you
1260
01:35:04,659 --> 01:35:05,939
know, it's been around for three years
1261
01:35:05,939 --> 01:35:06,939
and this hasn't changed.
1262
01:35:07,239 --> 01:35:08,739
This really hasn't changed too much.
1263
01:35:08,779 --> 01:35:09,939
So you can join the chat on Discord.
1264
01:35:09,939 --> 01:35:11,159
You've got the weekly newsletter.
1265
01:35:11,159 --> 01:35:12,119
You can see the meetup.
1266
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,699
Um, we've got data and resources here.
1267
01:35:14,699 --> 01:35:15,659
This is all built in Wix.
1268
01:35:16,359 --> 01:35:18,619
And so you can see, you know, background
1269
01:35:18,619 --> 01:35:21,680
here, some, some other things, um, of the
1270
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,239
different types of apps that are out
1271
01:35:23,239 --> 01:35:26,060
there, but why I'm talking about this is
1272
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:29,539
because, uh, using Bolt and some other
1273
01:35:29,539 --> 01:35:32,020
tools, uh, I am creating a brand new
1274
01:35:32,039 --> 01:35:33,560
website for the OzD5 Association.
1275
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:35,319
That's going to be more interactive.
1276
01:35:35,779 --> 01:35:36,720
There's going to be,
1277
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:37,819
and it's not on here.
1278
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:39,359
I'm building in the background, but this
1279
01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:40,920
one's going to be the public version of
1280
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:42,960
the app where you can do some interesting
1281
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,680
things, uh, see some interesting
1282
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:45,560
resources, it's going
1283
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:46,739
to be easier to update.
1284
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,699
Um, but there's going to be a members
1285
01:35:49,699 --> 01:35:51,220
only version in which we're building,
1286
01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:52,159
which will have features
1287
01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:53,800
specifically for members.
1288
01:35:54,199 --> 01:35:56,260
Um, but so far what you can do here, you
1289
01:35:56,260 --> 01:35:57,859
can see the about page and like, you can
1290
01:35:57,859 --> 01:35:59,640
see a roadmap, um, some
1291
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:00,779
interesting designs there.
1292
01:36:01,119 --> 01:36:03,319
Uh, we bring across a lot of the data and
1293
01:36:03,319 --> 01:36:05,520
safety and, uh, video resources
1294
01:36:05,899 --> 01:36:08,020
and news resources that we had before.
1295
01:36:08,020 --> 01:36:09,439
So you can click on any of these tabs
1296
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:10,460
that are on screen here.
1297
01:36:11,300 --> 01:36:13,500
Um, then the other part is education.
1298
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:14,300
Check this out, Chris.
1299
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,319
So I've got something where, uh, people
1300
01:36:17,319 --> 01:36:18,060
have always asked us
1301
01:36:18,060 --> 01:36:18,779
like, I just want some
1302
01:36:18,819 --> 01:36:19,220
basics.
1303
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,340
So with the basics, um, you can click on
1304
01:36:22,340 --> 01:36:24,260
one of these and you just get simple
1305
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,779
explanations of what different things are
1306
01:36:26,779 --> 01:36:28,720
and concepts of decentralization, the
1307
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,319
role of cryptography and blockchain.
1308
01:36:30,859 --> 01:36:33,300
Um, you can even go so far as to go into
1309
01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:35,439
a topic that is really high right now,
1310
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,180
which is, um, uh, real
1311
01:36:37,180 --> 01:36:38,560
world asset tokenization.
1312
01:36:39,039 --> 01:36:41,340
And that is something where, uh, people
1313
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:43,199
are doing it to tokenize all sorts of
1314
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:43,500
things.
1315
01:36:43,979 --> 01:36:46,020
So you can see these explainers quick
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01:36:46,020 --> 01:36:47,659
cards, like, you know, you're teaching
1317
01:36:47,659 --> 01:36:49,140
like a kid, like, you know, just a quick
1318
01:36:49,140 --> 01:36:50,640
kind of card and you can dive into
1319
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:51,300
concepts further.
1320
01:36:51,659 --> 01:36:52,939
And then I've got these visuals.
1321
01:36:53,500 --> 01:36:55,359
So here is something that we've been able
1322
01:36:55,359 --> 01:36:57,979
to, thanks to bolt and other tools, um,
1323
01:36:57,979 --> 01:36:59,260
create things like here's how you
1324
01:36:59,260 --> 01:37:00,920
understand what this block structure look
1325
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:01,640
like, what is the
1326
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,600
centralization versus decentralization?
1327
01:37:03,659 --> 01:37:05,300
What is public versus private keys?
1328
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,659
How does smart contracts work, et cetera.
1329
01:37:07,659 --> 01:37:10,520
So some interesting high level stuff, um,
1330
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,159
that we link to now it gets to the fun
1331
01:37:13,159 --> 01:37:15,420
part, the fun part is that we've got this
1332
01:37:15,420 --> 01:37:16,479
thing called AI insights.
1333
01:37:17,380 --> 01:37:20,119
And so on the AI insights page, um, what
1334
01:37:20,119 --> 01:37:22,779
you can see here is that, uh, basically
1335
01:37:23,180 --> 01:37:25,640
you can chat with different, um, experts
1336
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:26,560
that we've got here.
1337
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,000
One is an expert on
1338
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,420
the centralized finance.
1339
01:37:29,659 --> 01:37:30,859
So another one is an
1340
01:37:30,859 --> 01:37:32,539
expert on real world assets.
1341
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:37,039
Uh, so I can go here, tell me about RWA,
1342
01:37:37,039 --> 01:37:41,819
uh, as if I am 12, which is a nice way to
1343
01:37:41,819 --> 01:37:43,579
get, you know, it's explanations because
1344
01:37:43,579 --> 01:37:46,000
it simplifies it when you say things like
1345
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,279
that, explaining to me like I'm five.
1346
01:37:47,699 --> 01:37:48,779
And you can see here,
1347
01:37:48,779 --> 01:37:49,819
it gives you the answer.
1348
01:37:49,819 --> 01:37:51,039
Then you can hear the conversation.
1349
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:52,899
I go, it will say, I
1350
01:37:52,899 --> 01:37:54,239
work in construction.
1351
01:37:55,180 --> 01:37:57,979
How does this affect my
1352
01:37:57,979 --> 01:37:59,319
industry, for example?
1353
01:38:00,180 --> 01:38:01,920
And so you can see it, you know, you can
1354
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,460
go back and forth with it.
1355
01:38:03,460 --> 01:38:07,220
Uh, we do it across, um, basically, uh, I
1356
01:38:07,220 --> 01:38:08,739
think like you can go back five messages.
1357
01:38:08,739 --> 01:38:10,560
So it's not too long of a context window,
1358
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:11,680
but really interesting stuff there.
1359
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:14,060
Even more interesting is that I've loaded
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01:38:14,060 --> 01:38:15,199
the transcripts for
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01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:16,479
past meetups that we've
1362
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:16,659
done.
1363
01:38:16,899 --> 01:38:18,180
So we did one in August with some
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01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:20,680
international guests, like tell me who
1365
01:38:20,739 --> 01:38:24,800
were the special guests, and then it will
1366
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,479
go into it and I'll go, okay, Audrey and
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01:38:26,500 --> 01:38:30,319
Glenn, um, tell me about, uh, quotes that
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01:38:30,319 --> 01:38:32,659
were cool from them.
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01:38:33,260 --> 01:38:34,800
And because it's got the transcript, you
1370
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:35,579
can interact with this.
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01:38:35,579 --> 01:38:36,239
This is free.
1372
01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:37,060
You can just go to it.
1373
01:38:37,140 --> 01:38:38,020
Um, there is going to be
1374
01:38:38,020 --> 01:38:40,000
more for a members section.
1375
01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:42,079
So you can see here some quotes from
1376
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:43,380
Audrey, some quotes from Glenn, and you
1377
01:38:43,380 --> 01:38:45,100
can dive into it more for other meetups
1378
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:46,579
and we will load more in here.
1379
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,260
The podcast insights is also like the
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01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:50,380
most recent podcast.
1381
01:38:50,619 --> 01:38:52,460
So we had Hannah, Vincent, Charmaine,
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01:38:52,460 --> 01:38:53,760
Andrew, another Vincent.
1383
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:56,819
So for Vincent Grimoli from RedBelly, uh,
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01:38:56,819 --> 01:39:00,000
tell me about his academic work.
1385
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:01,500
Vincent, that is
1386
01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:03,760
great way to prompt Mark.
1387
01:39:04,060 --> 01:39:05,840
Um, but here, Vincent Grimoli is academic
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01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,260
work and it dives into it.
1389
01:39:07,579 --> 01:39:08,899
Extracted from the podcast.
1390
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,119
You've got more of this interaction.
1391
01:39:11,420 --> 01:39:12,239
We're going to do some
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01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:13,220
more of this kind of stuff.
1393
01:39:13,220 --> 01:39:14,199
And it's using for a mini.
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01:39:14,619 --> 01:39:15,460
It's using for a mini.
1395
01:39:15,899 --> 01:39:17,720
Um, so it keeps costs down.
1396
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,819
So it's worth having a look at that.
1397
01:39:18,819 --> 01:39:20,239
If you are building and tinkering.
1398
01:39:20,659 --> 01:39:23,479
Um, it's, you know, in the sense that it,
1399
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,779
that is, so what, what I'm showing you
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01:39:26,779 --> 01:39:27,920
this is that we're going to launch this
1401
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,060
site is going to be a way to provide more
1402
01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:31,300
value to people that
1403
01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:32,479
weren't able to get to the meetup.
1404
01:39:32,779 --> 01:39:34,420
Um, but there's going to be even more
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01:39:34,420 --> 01:39:38,020
value than this when I get the members
1406
01:39:38,180 --> 01:39:39,439
app out, so that's something that we'll
1407
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:40,079
be building, but
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01:39:40,079 --> 01:39:41,300
anyway, that was it for me.
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01:39:41,579 --> 01:39:42,180
What do you want to show?
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01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:43,000
Love it.
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01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,979
I wanted to show off a tool called fuzzy.
1412
01:39:44,979 --> 01:39:46,659
So this is targeting my, uh, my
1413
01:39:46,659 --> 01:39:48,439
salespeople out there who are, you know,
1414
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,340
looking to try and find better ways to
1415
01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:52,520
reach out to a larger or targeted
1416
01:39:52,619 --> 01:39:53,760
audience, if you've got some really
1417
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,220
structured campaigns, understand who
1418
01:39:55,220 --> 01:39:56,500
your people are in your tone of voice.
1419
01:39:56,779 --> 01:39:57,880
So this is a tool called fuzzy.
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01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:59,239
No, bring it up.
1421
01:40:00,699 --> 01:40:02,979
So fuzzy sequence, um, really, really
1422
01:40:02,979 --> 01:40:05,180
interesting tool, uh, utilizing a lot of
1423
01:40:05,180 --> 01:40:06,880
AI, they're actually going through, they
1424
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,119
actually opened up a bit of funding
1425
01:40:08,180 --> 01:40:09,739
recently and they're going through a new
1426
01:40:09,739 --> 01:40:11,939
iteration of that tool, um, mixing
1427
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:14,859
more sort of chat, GPT and cord based
1428
01:40:14,859 --> 01:40:16,060
responses within that
1429
01:40:16,060 --> 01:40:17,000
programming as well,
1430
01:40:17,020 --> 01:40:17,920
which was something I've had
1431
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:18,920
painted at this previously.
1432
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:20,960
So I've got good relationships with AWS,
1433
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,380
Google and Nvidia in terms of their
1434
01:40:22,380 --> 01:40:23,199
inception programs.
1435
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,279
Um, and so they're technically a startup.
1436
01:40:25,699 --> 01:40:29,119
Um, and this is available on a request,
1437
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:30,060
uh, if you reach out
1438
01:40:30,060 --> 01:40:30,920
to them and have a chat.
1439
01:40:31,420 --> 01:40:32,899
So this tool here, I just jump in.
1440
01:40:32,899 --> 01:40:34,260
There's a lot of interesting features
1441
01:40:34,260 --> 01:40:36,979
here that allow you to attack yourself
1442
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:39,380
into quite different array of ways of
1443
01:40:39,380 --> 01:40:41,119
communicating with people out there in
1444
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:44,640
industry, um, you can import your own
1445
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:46,840
contacts, um, whether if you've got your
1446
01:40:46,859 --> 01:40:48,720
own CRM, your own database, you can pull
1447
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:49,859
in things from other databases.
1448
01:40:50,060 --> 01:40:51,899
If you use tools like Apollo and the
1449
01:40:51,899 --> 01:40:54,199
works, um, you can even pull contacts in
1450
01:40:54,199 --> 01:40:55,699
from the likes of, um,
1451
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:57,500
uh, LinkedIn as well.
1452
01:40:57,500 --> 01:40:59,680
So if I wanted to go to my contacts list
1453
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,640
here, um, and I wanted to import a list,
1454
01:41:04,140 --> 01:41:05,380
I can actually import, as you can see
1455
01:41:05,380 --> 01:41:07,380
here from LinkedIn as well as upload
1456
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:08,619
my own CSV of information
1457
01:41:08,619 --> 01:41:09,819
so I can go to LinkedIn.
1458
01:41:10,340 --> 01:41:11,460
I could filter down.
1459
01:41:11,460 --> 01:41:12,819
I've got an example here where I've got
1460
01:41:12,819 --> 01:41:14,020
not a bunch of, I want to target
1461
01:41:14,020 --> 01:41:14,899
a bunch of not for profits.
1462
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,420
I've shortcut the list of 21, take that
1463
01:41:17,420 --> 01:41:21,439
URL, drop it into, um, drop it into
1464
01:41:21,619 --> 01:41:25,539
the sequence here, and then I can import
1465
01:41:25,539 --> 01:41:27,859
that list and it will create, um,
1466
01:41:27,859 --> 01:41:29,100
that list of people you can see how to
1467
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,300
shortcut it as digital nexus.
1468
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:31,579
And it's just sinking and
1469
01:41:31,579 --> 01:41:32,520
pulling that data in now.
1470
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:34,960
Um, but you'll be able to see that list
1471
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,800
of people here within your fuzzy
1472
01:41:36,819 --> 01:41:37,779
tool and then start
1473
01:41:37,779 --> 01:41:39,100
targeting messages with them.
1474
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:39,720
Fantastic.
1475
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,199
Now the area, one reason I love this so
1476
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:43,039
much is so what you can start to do is
1477
01:41:43,079 --> 01:41:45,100
you can adapt your own brand voice so
1478
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:46,100
that you're trying to learn a tool
1479
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:46,979
and what you want to do.
1480
01:41:47,340 --> 01:41:47,539
Okay.
1481
01:41:47,539 --> 01:41:49,500
So here is a brand voice that we use from
1482
01:41:49,500 --> 01:41:50,600
a digital village perspective.
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01:41:51,079 --> 01:41:52,199
Tell it all about yourself.
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01:41:52,460 --> 01:41:54,119
What it, who you are, what you do, how
1485
01:41:54,119 --> 01:41:55,520
you speak, what is the
1486
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:56,640
type of language you use?
1487
01:41:56,979 --> 01:41:58,460
You can then give it, you know, are you a
1488
01:41:58,460 --> 01:42:00,060
company that, you know, has a really
1489
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:03,840
a PhD level, um, tone of voice or your
1490
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:04,659
bachelor or you're
1491
01:42:04,659 --> 01:42:05,399
down to a kindergarten.
1492
01:42:05,399 --> 01:42:06,560
Are you talking with kids and others?
1493
01:42:06,859 --> 01:42:07,699
What's the tone?
1494
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:09,359
Are you constructive professional?
1495
01:42:09,739 --> 01:42:11,260
What type of mood are you like trying to
1496
01:42:11,260 --> 01:42:12,939
be, you know, boring?
1497
01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:13,720
Lazy?
1498
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:14,020
Or do you want to be
1499
01:42:14,020 --> 01:42:15,739
exciting and action orientated?
1500
01:42:15,739 --> 01:42:16,760
Or are you like you're a business, you're
1501
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,159
confident, empowering, visionary, um,
1502
01:42:19,159 --> 01:42:20,739
language, words to exclude.
1503
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:21,939
You can even set your pronouns.
1504
01:42:22,159 --> 01:42:23,420
You want to talk from the perspective of
1505
01:42:23,420 --> 01:42:25,600
me and I, or you want to
1506
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,380
perspective of you and they, particularly
1507
01:42:27,380 --> 01:42:28,859
if you're, you know, if you want to talk
1508
01:42:28,859 --> 01:42:30,340
from the, the, the perspective of a
1509
01:42:30,340 --> 01:42:32,319
customer, would not say that I help you.
1510
01:42:32,319 --> 01:42:33,920
It's like you get this solution.
1511
01:42:34,460 --> 01:42:36,199
Um, you can dictate that as well.
1512
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:37,840
So you can save that brand voice.
1513
01:42:38,300 --> 01:42:39,239
Um, and then you can start
1514
01:42:39,239 --> 01:42:40,500
going and then you can start
1515
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:41,560
structuring value proposition.
1516
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,659
So if you know you want to target certain
1517
01:42:43,659 --> 01:42:45,600
people with certain messages, you can
1518
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,659
define different value propositions or
1519
01:42:47,659 --> 01:42:49,279
depending on who the audience type.
1520
01:42:49,279 --> 01:42:51,159
So let's say I've got three examples that
1521
01:42:51,159 --> 01:42:52,619
I have in my contact list that I
1522
01:42:52,619 --> 01:42:54,680
predetermined was around executives and
1523
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,340
health industries, executives education,
1524
01:42:56,979 --> 01:42:57,880
um, and I can't
1525
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:58,680
remember what the last one was.
1526
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,659
So I could target a specific value point
1527
01:43:00,659 --> 01:43:02,079
message for that particular audience
1528
01:43:02,159 --> 01:43:04,060
type by defining what the product is.
1529
01:43:04,060 --> 01:43:05,560
They're specific pain points that
1530
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:06,899
differentiate his case studies, call to
1531
01:43:06,939 --> 01:43:08,479
actions, and you can get the AI tool to
1532
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:09,739
actually help, um,
1533
01:43:09,739 --> 01:43:10,720
generate those insights
1534
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:11,180
as well.
1535
01:43:11,319 --> 01:43:13,119
So I'll just, I won't create one, but he
1536
01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:14,760
looked, you can set that up, give it a
1537
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:16,920
title, give it a product name, give the
1538
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:17,760
elevator pitch for
1539
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:18,779
that particular product.
1540
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:20,840
Um, and then put in the differentiation,
1541
01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:23,220
differentiators and product, um,
1542
01:43:23,220 --> 01:43:24,279
pain points and information.
1543
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:25,439
And then the next step,
1544
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:26,399
you can actually get pay.
1545
01:43:26,399 --> 01:43:28,619
I to help generate that content in a
1546
01:43:28,619 --> 01:43:29,479
meaningful way as well.
1547
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:30,199
Fantastic.
1548
01:43:30,779 --> 01:43:32,039
So what you can then do is
1549
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:33,100
you go to your contact list.
1550
01:43:33,420 --> 01:43:36,039
Um, you can either see all of your raw
1551
01:43:36,039 --> 01:43:37,479
contacts in one list, or you can
1552
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:38,260
see the different lists.
1553
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,260
Um, as I showed you before, and then you
1554
01:43:41,260 --> 01:43:42,960
can also go here, which is the most
1555
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,239
powerful part now to the campaigns and
1556
01:43:45,239 --> 01:43:47,659
start actioning campaigns to
1557
01:43:47,659 --> 01:43:49,319
target those particular lists.
1558
01:43:49,979 --> 01:43:51,000
Um, so there are two
1559
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:52,220
ways you can create them.
1560
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:53,939
Um, and then there's lots of different
1561
01:43:53,939 --> 01:43:55,180
options within that filter.
1562
01:43:55,180 --> 01:43:56,960
I've got the beta version here active, so
1563
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,300
I can either start from blank
1564
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:59,699
or I can choose a template.
1565
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,319
I'm going to choose a
1566
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:02,880
template just for example, states.
1567
01:44:03,279 --> 01:44:05,020
So I click this, open this up and there's
1568
01:44:05,020 --> 01:44:08,279
like lots of different ways and reasons
1569
01:44:08,420 --> 01:44:10,199
that you can address your audiences.
1570
01:44:10,199 --> 01:44:11,340
Are you talking with CMOs?
1571
01:44:11,340 --> 01:44:12,319
Are you talking about
1572
01:44:12,319 --> 01:44:13,960
webinars that are coming up?
1573
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,859
Um, depending on all the different things
1574
01:44:15,859 --> 01:44:16,939
that you have saved.
1575
01:44:16,939 --> 01:44:18,420
So I'm just going to go to this webinar
1576
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:20,039
one that I pre prebuilt.
1577
01:44:21,420 --> 01:44:24,260
Um, and I'm going to define my list to
1578
01:44:24,260 --> 01:44:26,439
find my brand voice, it confirm.
1579
01:44:27,039 --> 01:44:28,840
Um, and then what happens is you start
1580
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,279
getting this structure where you can
1581
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,739
define in a sort of sequence format, how
1582
01:44:34,739 --> 01:44:36,500
the tool is going to be talking and
1583
01:44:36,539 --> 01:44:37,619
reaching out to the
1584
01:44:37,619 --> 01:44:38,699
customers that you've set here.
1585
01:44:39,340 --> 01:44:41,359
So I have previously done this, so I've
1586
01:44:41,359 --> 01:44:42,760
got a, you know, some LinkedIn
1587
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:43,819
messages that I define.
1588
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:45,479
I can then get the AI to
1589
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:46,779
help generate that stuff.
1590
01:44:46,779 --> 01:44:48,960
I'd to generate those communications, or
1591
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,720
I can define it myself and then get
1592
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,100
the AI to help optimize it.
1593
01:44:53,399 --> 01:44:54,640
I can tell it to wait for two days
1594
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:55,859
between messages or wait for three
1595
01:44:55,859 --> 01:44:56,260
days between
1596
01:44:56,260 --> 01:44:57,939
messages, and then I can save.
1597
01:44:57,939 --> 01:44:59,420
And that sequence will then start
1598
01:44:59,420 --> 01:45:00,560
automatically in the background,
1599
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,619
communicating to your people, to your
1600
01:45:02,619 --> 01:45:04,479
lists, either through email or direct
1601
01:45:04,579 --> 01:45:06,100
through email, depending on whether
1602
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:07,380
you've told it to do through LinkedIn
1603
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,699
or uploaded via your own CSV messages.
1604
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,399
Um, and yeah, so suddenly now you've got
1605
01:45:12,399 --> 01:45:14,340
this communication platform that is
1606
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:16,899
automatically reaching a huge audience,
1607
01:45:17,420 --> 01:45:18,479
depending on how big the lists that
1608
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,140
you've uploaded, uh, in the background.
1609
01:45:20,359 --> 01:45:21,920
And you can define those frequencies,
1610
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:23,180
like you only want to send out one or
1611
01:45:23,180 --> 01:45:24,399
two per day, or you want to say that 20
1612
01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:25,619
per day, or you want to want one or
1613
01:45:25,619 --> 01:45:27,439
two per week, I mean, you can do it.
1614
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:28,920
Want to be, how annoying do you want to
1615
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:29,659
be in your marketing
1616
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:30,819
campaigns in South Tampa?
1617
01:45:30,819 --> 01:45:31,619
They're Ozzy company.
1618
01:45:32,079 --> 01:45:33,840
Ah, so the founders are Ozzy and, but
1619
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:34,920
they're based over in
1620
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:36,520
Singapore right now.
1621
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:37,340
Um, and that's,
1622
01:45:37,579 --> 01:45:38,560
do we know much about the data?
1623
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:40,079
Uh, what type of data?
1624
01:45:40,079 --> 01:45:40,579
We'd like to know where,
1625
01:45:40,579 --> 01:45:41,359
where does the data sit?
1626
01:45:41,659 --> 01:45:42,220
Where do they,
1627
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,520
the data is all hosted or all the
1628
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,659
platform data is hosted self hosted
1629
01:45:46,659 --> 01:45:47,420
with their own private
1630
01:45:47,420 --> 01:45:49,159
AWS, uh, I guess service.
1631
01:45:49,279 --> 01:45:52,199
Um, obviously the AI tools are utilizing
1632
01:45:52,199 --> 01:45:55,039
open AI and APIs as well as
1633
01:45:55,039 --> 01:45:55,560
core APIs.
1634
01:45:55,939 --> 01:45:58,399
I couldn't tell you how they're managing
1635
01:45:58,399 --> 01:45:59,680
the data between how
1636
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:00,859
the AI is reading stuff.
1637
01:46:00,859 --> 01:46:01,020
Okay.
1638
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:01,819
Yeah.
1639
01:46:01,819 --> 01:46:03,319
I mean, for something where it's not,
1640
01:46:03,319 --> 01:46:06,520
say, for example, like super secretive,
1641
01:46:07,079 --> 01:46:09,159
um, then it's, it's going to be okay.
1642
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,020
Like, you know, just to use any of the
1643
01:46:11,020 --> 01:46:12,159
models, there's a lot of apps that use
1644
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:15,180
O1 or sorry, open AI or Claude or sorry,
1645
01:46:15,399 --> 01:46:17,020
anthropics, like, um, API tools.
1646
01:46:17,380 --> 01:46:17,420
Yeah.
1647
01:46:17,420 --> 01:46:18,140
It's, uh, yeah.
1648
01:46:18,619 --> 01:46:19,239
Interesting to note.
1649
01:46:19,239 --> 01:46:20,220
And to be honest, it's like,
1650
01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:21,840
this is, it's a sales tool.
1651
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:22,199
You're targeting
1652
01:46:22,199 --> 01:46:23,460
people with a sales message.
1653
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:23,920
Yeah.
1654
01:46:24,119 --> 01:46:25,439
I mean, I don't, what does it matter if
1655
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,659
open is getting trained on, on
1656
01:46:27,659 --> 01:46:28,680
how you messaging people?
1657
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:29,380
It's out there anyway.
1658
01:46:29,579 --> 01:46:30,119
It just gets better.
1659
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,500
Um, so you can also create campaigns
1660
01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:34,720
using some custom features here.
1661
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,279
You have some predefined targeting, um,
1662
01:46:37,539 --> 01:46:38,800
sorry, but messaging
1663
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,279
methodology is whether you want to.
1664
01:46:40,279 --> 01:46:40,979
I like to poke the bear one.
1665
01:46:40,979 --> 01:46:41,279
Yeah.
1666
01:46:41,279 --> 01:46:43,000
You can be really just like, why you, you
1667
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:44,220
need to be, you should be doing this
1668
01:46:44,220 --> 01:46:45,640
right now, or you can have like, Hey,
1669
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,399
this is our mission and this is the type
1670
01:46:47,399 --> 01:46:48,079
of things that we do.
1671
01:46:48,079 --> 01:46:49,119
Do you want to talk to us?
1672
01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:50,399
Or do you want to build a relationship?
1673
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:51,140
Do you want like vanilla?
1674
01:46:51,380 --> 01:46:51,760
Why is that?
1675
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:51,979
Like a generic.
1676
01:46:52,380 --> 01:46:53,500
Messages sent to me.
1677
01:46:53,500 --> 01:46:54,000
Oh yeah.
1678
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,460
Like people utilize this stuff, but now
1679
01:46:55,460 --> 01:46:56,659
this is, this is automated, right?
1680
01:46:57,060 --> 01:46:57,659
So you can select your
1681
01:46:57,659 --> 01:46:59,319
brand, your brand voice here.
1682
01:46:59,319 --> 01:47:00,100
I'm going to poke the bear.
1683
01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:00,720
I'm going to be really
1684
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:02,020
aggressive for this example.
1685
01:47:02,859 --> 01:47:04,159
I can then go to my value proposition.
1686
01:47:04,399 --> 01:47:05,899
I can then select which one I want.
1687
01:47:05,899 --> 01:47:07,300
Let's go to my design print.
1688
01:47:07,300 --> 01:47:09,260
I do a lot of work in design sprints.
1689
01:47:09,260 --> 01:47:10,560
Um, I select my channels.
1690
01:47:10,779 --> 01:47:12,020
I only want to target with LinkedIn at
1691
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:12,699
this particular time.
1692
01:47:12,699 --> 01:47:13,640
That's all I've got set up.
1693
01:47:13,939 --> 01:47:16,079
Um, and then I can set what
1694
01:47:16,079 --> 01:47:17,579
I want my messaging to be.
1695
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,500
Um, do I want to have an invitation that
1696
01:47:19,500 --> 01:47:21,640
goes out to say, Hey, let's chat before
1697
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:22,560
or can, or do I just
1698
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,880
want to email them directly?
1699
01:47:24,039 --> 01:47:24,979
I like doing the invitations.
1700
01:47:25,239 --> 01:47:26,159
I want, you know, people to
1701
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:27,359
actually want to engage with me.
1702
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:28,579
How frequently do I
1703
01:47:28,579 --> 01:47:29,220
want them to communicate?
1704
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,520
Let's just say I want, um, a delay of
1705
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,760
around three or four hours before, after
1706
01:47:35,399 --> 01:47:37,520
they, um, accept my invite.
1707
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:38,859
How many messages do I send in total
1708
01:47:38,859 --> 01:47:40,039
before I leave them alone?
1709
01:47:40,279 --> 01:47:41,899
I think three is a good number following
1710
01:47:41,899 --> 01:47:43,800
that first one specific days
1711
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,159
after between each message.
1712
01:47:45,359 --> 01:47:46,619
I'm going to say three or four days.
1713
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,699
And then I go next and I can then define
1714
01:47:48,699 --> 01:47:49,720
which list do I want
1715
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:51,260
to target those towards?
1716
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:53,260
Um, so I could select my, one of my
1717
01:47:53,260 --> 01:47:54,659
community services and stuff for that.
1718
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,079
And then I can generate copy.
1719
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,000
And what that'll do here is that will
1720
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,119
then create a whole bunch of copy and
1721
01:48:00,119 --> 01:48:01,659
information against the
1722
01:48:01,659 --> 01:48:03,140
lists that I have created.
1723
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:04,939
The one thing I, the one thing I did
1724
01:48:04,939 --> 01:48:06,560
figure out to highlight here, which is
1725
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:07,600
around what happens with the
1726
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:08,800
lists when you update them.
1727
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:10,239
So at that particular point, if you
1728
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:11,920
haven't set up your list properly, it'll
1729
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:13,399
come up with a lot of going, you need to
1730
01:48:13,399 --> 01:48:15,300
sync your lists with all the information
1731
01:48:15,359 --> 01:48:16,680
insights, so this is
1732
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:17,699
where it gets pretty cool.
1733
01:48:17,699 --> 01:48:19,539
If I go into one of the lists that I have
1734
01:48:19,539 --> 01:48:22,199
previously created here, or it's
1735
01:48:22,199 --> 01:48:23,420
actually not generating right now.
1736
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:27,220
Uh, I can't show K-certs.
1737
01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:28,000
I'll scrap that.
1738
01:48:28,359 --> 01:48:29,460
Oh, I'll stop there.
1739
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:30,960
But essentially what you can do, you can
1740
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:31,699
actually click on this.
1741
01:48:32,039 --> 01:48:33,300
Uh, you can click and search, see your
1742
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:36,659
lists and it will display all of the
1743
01:48:36,659 --> 01:48:38,560
information that it's scraped about those
1744
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:39,819
particular people from LinkedIn, what
1745
01:48:39,819 --> 01:48:41,899
the businesses are, what the links are,
1746
01:48:41,899 --> 01:48:44,279
what, um, type of work they prefer to
1747
01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:46,560
do and see, and that's how it automates
1748
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:47,680
and generates all the content.
1749
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:48,939
So that when you're targeting that
1750
01:48:48,939 --> 01:48:50,520
message, it's not just giving a generic
1751
01:48:50,619 --> 01:48:51,859
message about your business.
1752
01:48:51,859 --> 01:48:52,739
It's saying, Hey, I
1753
01:48:52,739 --> 01:48:53,779
just saw you did this.
1754
01:48:54,220 --> 01:48:55,479
You may really like this
1755
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:56,779
because of what this business does.
1756
01:48:56,779 --> 01:48:58,340
It makes those connections for you.
1757
01:48:58,340 --> 01:48:59,760
So that message that you're reaching out
1758
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,020
to LinkedIn with, um, is more meaningful,
1759
01:49:02,020 --> 01:49:03,180
not just generic.
1760
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:04,979
That's where it gets really powerful.
1761
01:49:05,359 --> 01:49:05,880
Very cool.
1762
01:49:06,140 --> 01:49:07,960
Well, um, I think we're out of time.
1763
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:08,819
Give you another booking.
1764
01:49:09,140 --> 01:49:10,880
So I think it's a
1765
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,399
great place to leave us on.
1766
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,220
Uh, we'll be back next week, folks.
1767
01:49:14,220 --> 01:49:15,739
We'll drop some links in the show notes.
1768
01:49:16,039 --> 01:49:17,060
You can just jump in, have a play around
1769
01:49:17,060 --> 01:49:19,000
with these tools and yeah.
1770
01:49:19,659 --> 01:49:20,140
See you soon.
1771
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:20,899
Thanks guys.
1772
01:49:21,380 --> 01:49:21,800
Enjoy time.
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