Ep 27 | Google is winning at AI and HeyBossAI could take your job

👨‍🚀 Hosted by Mark & Chris | 🦕 Yes, they’re still dinosaurs (for now)

🔗 WATCH NOW to see AI in action, industry-shaking news, and a wild website demo that might just give CEOs an existential crisis.

💥 What’s Inside This Episode?

Mark and Chris are back with a jam-packed update on all things AI, tech, and the Aussie innovation scene. From Google’s latest moves to hands-on demos of futuristic tools, this episode is all about real applications of AI—and the implications they bring.

⏱ Cold Open & What’s Coming Up
Dinosaurs? Existential crises? Oz DeFi upgrades? You’re in for a wild one.

🔧 Oz DeFi Website Revamp — New AI-Powered Tools
Big news from the home base. The OzDeFi (OzDeep?) site has had a major glow-up. Here’s what’s new:
Textionary – Paste podcast or event text, get instant definitions.
Pathfinder – A guided AI assistant for navigating marketing challenges.
Explain Crypto – Understand blockchain jargon in plain English.
Interactive Meetups – Rewatch events, ask questions, and explore guest insights (featuring David Birch).
RAG-Powered Document Chat – Explore government and blockchain docs via chat.

📅 Upcoming Events (Save the Dates!)
Applied GenAI Event – May 4th

Women+ in AI Event – Early May

Perfect opportunities to connect with the local AI crowd and see real-world applications.

🧠Google’s AI Push – Gemini, Imogen, VOTU & More
Big news from the Googleverse:
Gemini 2.5 Pro – Better code, better models.
Agent-to-Agent Protocols (MCP) – Yes, AI agents are now talking to each other.
Imogen 3 – New image-gen model from Google.
VEO2 – Video Object Tracking tech that links video angles like a CSI episode.
AI in Google Slides & Docs – Real-time AI support in your workflow.

Also mentioned:
Atlassian’s AI integrations
South Australia using AI cameras for driver tracking
Meta’s Llama 4 quietly joins the party


💻Live Demo: Boss AI Builds a Website in Real Time
Chris and Mark puts Boss AI to the test with a prompt:
“Make a site for an HR startup focused on offboarding.”

Within minutes, AI generates:
A sleek homepage
A templates page
Downloadable (questionably functional) assets
Editable sections, ready to go live

🚀 “This is what gives CEOs an existential crisis.”

💭Final Thoughts + Dino Tease
Mark and Chris sign off wondering: will the dinosaur avatars survive another week?

👀 Why You Should Watch
If you’re even slightly curious about how AI is shaping websites, media, marketing, or your job—this episode is your wake-up call.
It’s part news breakdown, part product demo, part therapy session for tech-fatigued founders.

🎧 Subscribe, Like & Drop a Comment:
Are you using tools like Boss AI? Tried Textionary? What gives YOU an existential crisis in this AI boom?

📍 Full episode available now on YouTube, Spotify, and all your favorite podcast platforms.

Transcript

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Hey folks, Mark here from the

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journal X's podcast.

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I'm here with my co-host Chris

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episode 27.

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Here we go.

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We've got a lot of things to talk about.

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Google has taken over

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the media right now.

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They've got a lot of really interesting

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things dominating the AI space.

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We'll talk a bit about that.

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We'll talk a bit about all the other

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things that are going on in the news.

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The latest in the

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Ozdeep, our website update.

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There is a whole new interactive learning

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and AI enabled kind of

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experience there for folks.

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There's a whole heap of like Aussie

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events going on coming up in early May

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that we'll be attending.

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And there's a whole lot more in the news.

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Big competitions, big topics, and we'll

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even talk about some existential, a CEO

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crisis that's going to be happening with

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the integration of AI.

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Live demo on that one as well.

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And you'll find out why Chris and I look

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like dinosaurs here in this picture.

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So all that and more in the episode.

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Let's go.

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Cats and dogs and cats and dogs.

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They're eating the-

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That is us.

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Eating dinosaurs.

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Anyway, eating dinosaurs.

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Should watch Kill Tony on Netflix.

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There's a dude that, Shane Gillis, he

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does the best Trump impression.

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And he's got a reason as an American,

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he's got one of the

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best Aussie impressions.

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Yeah, I know who does a

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really good one as well.

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Is it Trump?

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Not Alec, that was Baldwin.

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No, not Alec Baldwin.

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That's another guy.

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I can't remember his name is, but yeah,

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some great skits that

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come out of that recently.

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And there's a lot of content they get to

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work with right now.

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So there was an episode where Iggy Trump

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had the guy playing Trump.

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He was a kid, teenage years at high

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school, and he just wanted to play

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basketball and he wasn't good.

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him some of these magic-

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Oh, I've seen it.

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The Trump had shoes.

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Now he's got the golden shoes.

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And he misses.

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He misses, but he convinces everyone-

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That he's good.

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He's like, "So what

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the shoes make you good?"

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He's like, "No."

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But it makes everyone think that-

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I give you the

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confidence to say that I'm good.

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He convinces absolutely everyone.

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I put him in.

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This is for Easter.

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It's not Easter yet, but it's coming up.

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It's coming up.

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So anyway, it's next week.

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Would these eggs cost like $50 a day?

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Yeah, probably.

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It's from Higgs.

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It's from The Misses.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mark.

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Thank you, Mrs.

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Well-

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That's a white chocolate.

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Let's dive into it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Chris, I don't see color with chocolate.

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The real flavor.

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Anyway, you might notice folks here that

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we've got a bit of a dinoful thing going

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I'll put it on the foreground.

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There's a really good other- I forget the

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name of the podcast.

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Really good guys.

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But they did something where one of them

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had himself riding on

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top of a robo-dinosaur of

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John Carmack, who's

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like one of his favorite.

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If a man can have a hall pass for another

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man, then that was it.

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So I was just like inspired

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because I was watching that.

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I'll throw the link in the show notes.

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Anyway, you're wondering what

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the F is going on with this.

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That's it.

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Where each other's hall passes?

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We had to run off into the jungle.

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Dress these dinosaurs?

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Robot dinosaurs.

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We are literally in-

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Master Chief uniforms.

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Like dinosaur Master Chiefs.

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Rather than create super humans, they're

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made of super dinosaurs.

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I've been watching even though it's an

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old series, and it wasn't

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like that well received,

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I don't think, but the

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Master Chief or the Halo series.

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interesting, there's an AI in it.

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He's got an AI embodied in his head.

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He can't like turn it off

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and it's called Cortana.

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That's the whole premise.

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I just know.

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I guess.

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Microsoft and Cortana is-

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It was owned by Microsoft.

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Cortana off of the Cortana.

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That's why they called it Cortana.

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No, it's looking late.

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Bungie, Aussie company

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that came up with that.

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What a great innovation.

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Bungie when they first did it.

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Halo is such a good game.

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innovation, there's a lot

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of great stuff going on.

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I'll talk about it a bit later, but we're

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doing some stuff in that space to really

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showcase more of the innovation.

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you been up to this week?

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I'll give you my rundown and

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stuff, but what's going on?

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Yeah, this week's been quite busy trying

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to think of like as our

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business in Digital Village,

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we're really trying to strategize on how

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we bring more

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activity into that AI space,

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giving away tools and services.

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Now that things are so easy to build, it

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just doesn't make sense that we charge

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for a lot of these consultancy things.

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as part of these benefits to our

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customers and clients.

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It's been fun.

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Fantastic.

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So those that have come, I said it wasn't

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going to say anything, but it has been a

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big part of the week.

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We're planning a masterclass series.

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In the UX and AI space.

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Masterchef.

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Masterchef, yeah.

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I'm going to be telling you how to cook

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up a good UX experience.

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Are you going to be like Gordon Ramsay?

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You're just going to be shouting at them

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as they're doing it.

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What am I?

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A shit sandwich?

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You're holding up two

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laptops behind people's hands.

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What are you?

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I'm an AI sandwich advocate.

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Okay, cool. Masterclass.

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Yes, that is going to be fun.

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I mean, it'll take a while to build out

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all the content and stuff,

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but the big thing there is-

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People within the UX space, a lot of them

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aren't well-versed in AI,

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or they want to up their

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skills and their processes.

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So the aim is to provide the benefits of

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the skills, but also how you utilize AI

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to expedite and then give more benefits

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to customers and clients.

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And speaking of, like I showed in my news

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and stuff, but you should come along to,

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why don't we just jump across that?

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So speaking of the UX thing that you just

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mentioned there, I think this is an event

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that you should come along through.

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This is on May 8th.

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There's unfortunately two great events

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going on in the May 8th and stuff,

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and I've already agreed to film-

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Competition.

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I know, and we'll talk about both, but

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I've already agreed to film this one for

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Alex Zunoviev that runs GenAI Labs,

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and he's a product designer. They do a

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lot of these series.

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It was at the domain, not the domain, at

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domain, the actual, like, you know, real

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estate kind of website.

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And held there, went to my first one

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after seeing it and fomoing each time,

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but such a great event.

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I helped, they had a panel,

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then they had breakout groups.

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I led one of the breakout groups.

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We had some great discussions there.

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Shout out to the folks that were in that.

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Now he's doing another one.

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I'm going to film it and stuff, but you

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should come along and maybe you can help

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me film, but I'm just

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showing it up here, folks.

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I'll put the link in the show now.

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This is on May 8th, Applied GenAI,

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Stories from Product and Design Leaders.

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Isn't that something that maybe Chris has

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a lot more knowledge on than I?

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I just have to talk about AI.

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So you can see here, it's over at Torrens

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in Surrey Hills, Torrens University.

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Beautiful.

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Yeah, Michelle Gilmore.

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Hey Juno.

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So she'll be...

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I love that.

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One of my favourite research products.

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I know I was told of that when I saw her.

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So, you know, Chris is a fan.

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She knows that.

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I've done a few shout outs

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of the Torrens and everything.

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Fantastic.

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Candace Head of Design.

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Great team as well.

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Candace will be there.

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Leonardo AI, which is now my partner.

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So, AI research and fomo.

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This is going to be some great stuff that

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will be going on there.

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So there's that.

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May the 8th.

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May the 8th.

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All those things, yep.

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No, it's May the 4th, unfortunately.

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Another one that you should check out is

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the Women Plus AI event.

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So definitely save the date for this.

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It's from Fire Up Skills, shout out to

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Hannah Maud, who's been

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going around the globe back

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and forth between Europe and Australia,

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teaching and running sessions.

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She's from the FMCG space.

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There's a lot of stuff for the future of

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work and what people

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that are looking to change

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careers, you know, like later in their

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careers are doing and stuff.

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And she's done very much that.

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She's dived deep into the AI space.

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So both of those events, you are sport

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for choice folks on May the 4th.

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May the 8th, sorry.

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May the 4th be with you as well.

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I don't know what we're

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going to do for that one.

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But we'll figure out something.

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So those are two events there that I

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thought I'd just highlight

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whilst we're just getting

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into the news.

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And another big thing, I guess, for me,

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Chris, I'll just take

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over is, no, please, Oz DeFi.

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So we had the former website and then

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like with AI tools, it's

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just like, oh, man, like

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I'll throw I'll put

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all these things there.

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And then after a while you start to.

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Oh, so I saw it off as a pinnacle of

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things that you can play

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around with with tools like

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Bolt and X-ray.

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Oh, good.

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That's how we've looked at it.

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Everyone's like, you can't do much.

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I'm like, check out this.

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And probably why we should enter that

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bolt competition for a million dollars.

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Well, I was going to bring that up next.

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Yeah, we should.

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So here's this thing where over time I've

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learnt a bit more

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about like what I want in

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the website.

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At first, I just threw everything into it

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and put things behind the login, in front

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of the login.

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And it's just like after a time, you

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actually get a lot of feedback.

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And it's only been three months, right?

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We get feedback from folks and stuff.

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And then we've seen what we want to do.

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We've built different things and just

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culminating all of that

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experience into what you get now,

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which is nice, cleaner kind of

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thing that you see on screen.

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Another thing, Chris, that

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we've got is advocacy and tools.

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And you mentioned

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tools from Digital Village.

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What we've got here is something that not

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centralize like the

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firm that I do this work

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through is adding to a lot of the

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community engagement and

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movements that we're trying

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to build.

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And we call it Groundswell.

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So on Aussie, if I project Groundswell is

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you can read the

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about here so you can see

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more of the details, but

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it's adding tools like explain.

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It's like this is textionary.

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Textionary is something if you hear

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something in a podcast.

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If you are at an event and something

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didn't make sense, or you

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just want to copy and paste

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an article.

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I love your ability to create some really

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interesting things with textionary.

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Well, that's fucking great.

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This is for me and the

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partner that we created this.

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She came up with a name, which is great.

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This is an Eli five explanation.

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Explain it like I'm five

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for zero knowledge proofs.

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So Eli five zero knowledge proofs.

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Now, if you want to go up a level, you

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can go let's go to intermediate.

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Now you've got a higher level of the

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explanation and it's nothing

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more than you just copy and

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paste.

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If you like that

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explanation, you can copy it out.

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So that's one.

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The next one is Pathfinder.

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Pathfinder is a really interesting tool.

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Let's say that you're in marketing and

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you tell us about

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yourself and your role, your

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background experience and all that.

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It's just marketing, marketing.

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I'm pretty boring.

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I'm not technical, no

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programming experience.

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I'm not sure where to start.

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Right.

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My goal is to understand the tech.

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This is all for blockchain.

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Guess what?

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In a few seconds, it's going to build you

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10 learning blocks

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that are catered just for

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that.

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So here and see blockchain use cases and

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marketing, it takes that into account.

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When you click on that, you will now get

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something for that, that area.

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So those core concepts.

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So learning is really

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interesting with this.

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Another thing, and you can see some of

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the other tools, explain crypto.

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That's a fun one.

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But more importantly for the blog, sorry,

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the meetups and

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podcasts, don't you love it

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when you can actually have in

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one spot an ability to watch.

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And this is a new series on, it's called

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blockchain for good.

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And it's blockchain with AI capitalized

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because it's AI as well.

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This is where the folks at Fableration,

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which are doing

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blockchain, they're definitely for

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good, but they're doing this series.

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They're sponsoring it.

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So you can see it here.

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So look at this.

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You can watch this series.

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I've done it through

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Google meets and stuff.

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We'll do some in person as well.

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But I can click.

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And while David Birch, really awesome guy

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in the payment space,

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there was Victoria and

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then there was Lisa.

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I can get an FAQ going or I can ask a

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question when the FAQ is

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finished and I can interact

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and stay on screen at the same time.

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And then finally, we

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didn't have this before.

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And just a quick showcase is I put rag in

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here so that you can

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actually talk to documents

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that are relating to

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the blockchain space.

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So the government put out like a minister

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will talk about

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something, Commonwealth treasure,

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we will talk about something.

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So I'm just adding that in here and I can

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go tell me what these docs are about.

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And you can in the one hub, the one spot,

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you can use AI to

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actually understand what

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is going on in the space.

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So here you see it on screen, all that

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available for members and

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yeah, well worth checking

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out.

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So the amazing thing is that you can do

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this is with bolt folks,

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but it's not just bolt.

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It's not just vibe coding alone.

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You need to understand what it is.

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It needs to be built,

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how it needs to be built.

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You need to be able to

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know how to check it.

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So it's not just blindly going and doing

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and I did a bit of a

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rant on this vibe coding

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should not be slandered as much as it is.

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There's a difference between vibe coding

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without knowing and vibe

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coding plus a mix of actual

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coding because you get vibe coding to do

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the boilerplate, what

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they call the starter, and

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then you tweak it yourself and knowing

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what to tweak and how to

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add security and how to

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add databases and how to add, you know,

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proper usage of this kind of stuff.

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All of that combined together will

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actually make you able to

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produce stuff very fast.

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Excellent.

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Yeah.

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There's nothing wrong with vibe coding.

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I think it's just around matter of what

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you're doing and why and

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how the risks associated

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with it.

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And yeah, everyone should be tinkering

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with vibe coding and

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getting it out there.

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I mean, if you're someone who's very

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skilled, you're probably

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not going to go all the way

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in, but it's going to fast track a lot of

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the stuff that you're doing.

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And like just thinking about things that,

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man, with Gemini 2.5

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Pro coming out, the people

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01:13:05,214 --> 01:13:07,299
are just starting praises over the

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quality of the code.

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01:13:08,133 --> 01:13:09,468
Yeah, it just came out overnight.

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Or I mean, over the last couple of weeks,

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but Google did

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something last night, didn't

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they?

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Well, so they just over the last 24

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hours, they had their

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press conference with a lot

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01:13:18,644 --> 01:13:20,312
of announcements, a lot of exciting

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announcements, which we

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will touch on in a moment.

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We'll get to that.

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I thought we'd just talk about a few

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things first as we lead

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01:13:26,068 --> 01:13:26,735
our way up into something

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that will take a few

536
01:13:27,569 --> 01:13:28,570
more points to talk about.

537
01:13:29,238 --> 01:13:31,990
You did mention just as a split come, a

538
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:33,325
passing comment around Bolt

539
01:13:33,325 --> 01:13:35,077
doing a bit of a competition.

540
01:13:35,452 --> 01:13:38,330
So the world's largest hackathon is

541
01:13:38,330 --> 01:13:40,290
coming and there's a

542
01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:42,000
prize total a prize pool, I

543
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,128
think it is of a million dollars to bring

544
01:13:44,128 --> 01:13:45,170
it to life if you if

545
01:13:45,170 --> 01:13:46,046
you've got a great idea.

546
01:13:46,255 --> 01:13:47,756
So I'm entering some yeah,

547
01:13:47,756 --> 01:13:48,924
enter in that have a bit of fun.

548
01:13:49,925 --> 01:13:51,885
And you know, there's a currently I think

549
01:13:51,885 --> 01:13:54,555
over 100,000 people building together.

550
01:13:54,972 --> 01:13:56,890
And yeah, you could get just, you know,

551
01:13:57,141 --> 01:13:58,100
part of that prize or

552
01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:58,851
just start building something

553
01:13:58,934 --> 01:13:59,434
pretty cool.

554
01:13:59,434 --> 01:14:01,145
If it's a great idea, that is amazing.

555
01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:02,896
You know, this is vibe coding.

556
01:14:02,896 --> 01:14:03,647
This is vibe coding

557
01:14:03,647 --> 01:14:04,815
in action and practice.

558
01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:07,109
So yeah, don't jump on that.

559
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:07,651
It's quite interesting.

560
01:14:09,111 --> 01:14:10,404
Some other news, we'll jump into the sort

561
01:14:10,404 --> 01:14:11,196
of the fast news and

562
01:14:11,196 --> 01:14:11,905
we'll get into some of

563
01:14:11,905 --> 01:14:12,656
the somethings that are bigger.

564
01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:16,493
Musk is hiring some AI workers to fix up

565
01:14:16,493 --> 01:14:17,953
some of their some

566
01:14:17,953 --> 01:14:19,413
pretty funny content issues.

567
01:14:19,746 --> 01:14:20,456
I don't know if you try

568
01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:22,082
and do things in open AI.

569
01:14:23,083 --> 01:14:25,669
I think even even deep seek and other of

570
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:26,753
the open source tools

571
01:14:26,753 --> 01:14:27,713
moving away from open

572
01:14:27,713 --> 01:14:31,383
AI, they're usually popping up, you know,

573
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,510
they're blocking certain content types.

574
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:34,761
So if you start doing something pretty

575
01:14:34,761 --> 01:14:35,470
rude, you want to

576
01:14:35,470 --> 01:14:36,430
generate content inappropriate.

577
01:14:36,722 --> 01:14:37,848
Yeah, kind of fun stuff

578
01:14:37,848 --> 01:14:38,891
says yeah, the fun stuff.

579
01:14:38,891 --> 01:14:40,309
It kind of tells you now we you know,

580
01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:41,143
we're not doing this.

581
01:14:41,518 --> 01:14:43,687
Yeah, Grok, on the other hand, has been

582
01:14:43,687 --> 01:14:44,771
finding people have been

583
01:14:44,771 --> 01:14:46,648
getting around those firewalls

584
01:14:46,690 --> 01:14:48,525
pretty pretty damn quickly and easily.

585
01:14:48,775 --> 01:14:51,028
So Elon Musk has gone at a bit of a

586
01:14:51,028 --> 01:14:52,654
hiring spree just to

587
01:14:52,654 --> 01:14:54,531
find solutions for this and

588
01:14:54,531 --> 01:14:55,407
get people to fix it.

589
01:14:55,407 --> 01:14:56,366
So there's a lot of freedom.

590
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:57,326
I thought he might.

591
01:14:57,743 --> 01:14:59,828
I think it's you know, there might have

592
01:14:59,828 --> 01:15:00,996
been I'm guessing

593
01:15:00,996 --> 01:15:02,289
there's a few content pieces

594
01:15:02,289 --> 01:15:02,873
that have been sort

595
01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:03,999
of targeting him maybe.

596
01:15:06,126 --> 01:15:07,377
It's free until it's

597
01:15:07,377 --> 01:15:08,378
free until I'm part of it.

598
01:15:08,378 --> 01:15:09,880
Yeah, look, that was that was his say.

599
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:10,797
I have no proof or an answer

600
01:15:10,797 --> 01:15:12,299
say that as the passing joke.

601
01:15:13,008 --> 01:15:13,926
But yes, that's got an interesting thing

602
01:15:13,926 --> 01:15:14,676
that's happening in the

603
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:15,677
space after they've been

604
01:15:15,677 --> 01:15:16,386
merging their company.

605
01:15:16,678 --> 01:15:17,763
So obviously, they're building things

606
01:15:17,763 --> 01:15:20,057
back up again after letting everyone go.

607
01:15:20,891 --> 01:15:23,810
For our WordPress developer people out

608
01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:25,145
there, they have just

609
01:15:25,145 --> 01:15:26,688
launched an AI powered website

610
01:15:26,688 --> 01:15:27,898
builder into their platform.

611
01:15:28,232 --> 01:15:29,691
Oh, for me, this is pretty interesting.

612
01:15:30,192 --> 01:15:31,026
Is it called for mentor?

613
01:15:33,028 --> 01:15:33,946
Yeah, probably.

614
01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:40,410
So from pretty much prompt website

615
01:15:40,410 --> 01:15:41,578
generation on WordPress

616
01:15:41,578 --> 01:15:42,621
side of things, which is pretty

617
01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:44,539
finally, yeah, you would think this could

618
01:15:44,539 --> 01:15:45,415
have jumped on a bit early.

619
01:15:45,457 --> 01:15:46,541
But I think they've been going through

620
01:15:46,541 --> 01:15:48,710
some bad loops with

621
01:15:48,710 --> 01:15:50,045
recent press, obviously, with

622
01:15:50,045 --> 01:15:50,671
the joke in mind.

623
01:15:51,171 --> 01:15:54,091
Oh, yeah, the whole Oh, my god, the

624
01:15:54,091 --> 01:15:55,717
foundation and all that kind of stuff.

625
01:15:55,717 --> 01:15:56,260
Exactly right.

626
01:15:56,802 --> 01:15:57,594
You can look into that

627
01:15:57,594 --> 01:15:59,054
like, look up WordPress drama.

628
01:15:59,054 --> 01:16:00,681
But interestingly, like WordPress is

629
01:16:00,681 --> 01:16:01,431
definitely like the

630
01:16:01,431 --> 01:16:05,018
pinnacle of upper echelon of a gray

631
01:16:05,018 --> 01:16:06,603
quality kind of websites that you build.

632
01:16:06,603 --> 01:16:08,021
And when you can't build with that, like,

633
01:16:08,021 --> 01:16:09,022
and we initially did it

634
01:16:09,022 --> 01:16:10,649
with Wix or use Squarespace.

635
01:16:10,899 --> 01:16:12,651
And then there's others like, I forget

636
01:16:12,651 --> 01:16:13,986
the other name, there's flow.

637
01:16:14,611 --> 01:16:16,488
It's like, it's another kind of tool that

638
01:16:16,488 --> 01:16:18,198
you can build web webflow webflow.

639
01:16:18,198 --> 01:16:19,658
Oh, we're playing a there's heaps, but

640
01:16:19,658 --> 01:16:20,867
there's heaps of tools out there.

641
01:16:20,867 --> 01:16:22,744
We've got a custom webflows grave, like

642
01:16:22,744 --> 01:16:23,745
more of an advanced

643
01:16:23,745 --> 01:16:25,205
user isn't always something

644
01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:27,082
that builds an AI

645
01:16:27,082 --> 01:16:28,959
enabled webflow experience.

646
01:16:28,959 --> 01:16:29,668
So you can just vibe

647
01:16:29,668 --> 01:16:30,919
code your way to a website.

648
01:16:30,919 --> 01:16:32,337
And they did that last year, right?

649
01:16:32,337 --> 01:16:33,171
So you're so good on them.

650
01:16:33,171 --> 01:16:34,548
I forget the name, but I spoke to them

651
01:16:34,548 --> 01:16:36,133
about just before they did that.

652
01:16:36,133 --> 01:16:37,342
And it was just normal webflow stuff.

653
01:16:37,801 --> 01:16:39,636
But anyway, my point is, is that all the

654
01:16:39,636 --> 01:16:40,304
stuff that I'm doing

655
01:16:40,304 --> 01:16:42,055
and what the others doing,

656
01:16:42,139 --> 01:16:44,558
I think WordPress is still the best way.

657
01:16:45,142 --> 01:16:48,270
So if they're adding AI into it, it's, I

658
01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:49,354
would say it's best because

659
01:16:49,354 --> 01:16:51,315
it's very easy for content

660
01:16:51,356 --> 01:16:52,065
editing.

661
01:16:52,316 --> 01:16:52,357
Yeah.

662
01:16:52,357 --> 01:16:53,150
That's what I'm saying.

663
01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:53,859
That's what they get, right?

664
01:16:53,859 --> 01:16:54,776
I think you're in the side, they're

665
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:56,028
falling a bit behind in that space.

666
01:16:56,028 --> 01:16:58,155
But in terms of being able to manage your

667
01:16:58,155 --> 01:17:00,032
side, it's the, it's

668
01:17:00,032 --> 01:17:00,657
definitely one of the

669
01:17:00,657 --> 01:17:01,199
easy ones.

670
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:02,200
Can I just say on that?

671
01:17:02,909 --> 01:17:03,702
Because the scratch is an itch.

672
01:17:03,702 --> 01:17:05,454
When I did the ETF tracker thing, folks,

673
01:17:05,454 --> 01:17:07,581
like I built a CMS into it.

674
01:17:07,998 --> 01:17:09,916
Like from custom from scratch.

675
01:17:10,459 --> 01:17:10,667
Why?

676
01:17:11,335 --> 01:17:14,630
Because just because I, because he can,

677
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:15,422
because he can, because

678
01:17:15,422 --> 01:17:16,381
I needed to just the best

679
01:17:16,381 --> 01:17:17,424
of them with bolt.

680
01:17:17,424 --> 01:17:18,800
I needed to build a tool that could

681
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,052
display the information

682
01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:21,720
and the ETF tracker 2.0 was

683
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:22,512
coming out soon.

684
01:17:23,513 --> 01:17:24,723
But I wanted to display the information,

685
01:17:24,723 --> 01:17:25,140
but I didn't want to

686
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:25,891
have to go to a separate

687
01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:28,143
website, which is what I did before I

688
01:17:28,143 --> 01:17:30,228
have Wix and then embedded is the app.

689
01:17:30,228 --> 01:17:31,897
No, I just wanted it all in there.

690
01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:33,398
What could bolt it do it right?

691
01:17:33,398 --> 01:17:35,150
And I created a way that I could

692
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:36,860
connecting to Firebase,

693
01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:41,073
push in to a bucket, basically

694
01:17:41,323 --> 01:17:43,950
a words that I would type on, on the

695
01:17:43,950 --> 01:17:45,619
screen and I would be admin.

696
01:17:46,036 --> 01:17:47,371
So I could publish it or

697
01:17:47,371 --> 01:17:48,205
I could have it in draft.

698
01:17:48,538 --> 01:17:50,123
If you were the viewer, you wouldn't see

699
01:17:50,123 --> 01:17:50,916
anything that wasn't

700
01:17:50,916 --> 01:17:52,250
published and it worked.

701
01:17:52,501 --> 01:17:52,959
Okay.

702
01:17:52,959 --> 01:17:54,795
Like I definitely improve it again.

703
01:17:54,795 --> 01:17:57,089
But my point is, is that it's great that

704
01:17:57,089 --> 01:17:58,632
CMS thing is there, but

705
01:17:58,632 --> 01:17:59,758
don't think that that's

706
01:17:59,758 --> 01:18:00,509
the only hurdle.

707
01:18:00,634 --> 01:18:00,801
Sure.

708
01:18:00,801 --> 01:18:01,885
There are all these other things.

709
01:18:01,885 --> 01:18:03,178
I think what people really need to think

710
01:18:03,178 --> 01:18:04,513
about is specifically

711
01:18:04,513 --> 01:18:05,680
the nuance of what they're

712
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,516
trying to do and then figure out is it

713
01:18:07,516 --> 01:18:08,392
best to use a third

714
01:18:08,392 --> 01:18:10,060
party tool and is it the best

715
01:18:10,185 --> 01:18:12,312
tool on market that you use or is it easy

716
01:18:12,312 --> 01:18:13,397
just to build your own?

717
01:18:13,397 --> 01:18:15,899
Because for now, except for connecting to

718
01:18:15,899 --> 01:18:16,900
email, I've got a

719
01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:18,485
system where it has my AI,

720
01:18:18,902 --> 01:18:21,822
my CRM, my Google notes, because I don't

721
01:18:21,822 --> 01:18:22,614
use a bunch of Google

722
01:18:22,614 --> 01:18:24,157
notes except for like podcasts

723
01:18:24,157 --> 01:18:25,575
up and other stuff that we're sharing.

724
01:18:25,575 --> 01:18:25,742
Yeah.

725
01:18:25,909 --> 01:18:27,411
Bitch for personal stuff and

726
01:18:27,411 --> 01:18:29,162
also a Jira type of workboard.

727
01:18:29,162 --> 01:18:30,747
And I built that all into one tool.

728
01:18:31,164 --> 01:18:33,333
My own kind of a cockpit CRM thing.

729
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:33,625
Love it.

730
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,085
Bolt again, guys.

731
01:18:35,502 --> 01:18:35,919
It's fantastic.

732
01:18:36,586 --> 01:18:37,879
I can't recommend it enough to people.

733
01:18:38,463 --> 01:18:40,132
I mean, there are other tools out there.

734
01:18:40,215 --> 01:18:41,591
Luddleball and all these other tools,

735
01:18:41,591 --> 01:18:42,592
which I will talk to in a minute.

736
01:18:43,552 --> 01:18:44,344
Varna.

737
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:45,387
Can you hear Varna?

738
01:18:46,179 --> 01:18:46,721
Have you heard of Varna?

739
01:18:46,930 --> 01:18:47,389
I have.

740
01:18:47,389 --> 01:18:47,889
Very interesting.

741
01:18:48,140 --> 01:18:48,723
I just heard about it.

742
01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:49,933
I think we've talked about it previously.

743
01:18:50,559 --> 01:18:53,854
There's a group of kids out of MIT, kids,

744
01:18:53,854 --> 01:18:57,190
young people, and they're creating pretty

745
01:18:57,190 --> 01:18:58,775
much a decentralized network or

746
01:18:58,775 --> 01:19:00,110
decentralized AI tool.

747
01:19:00,527 --> 01:19:02,028
What was interesting about this, which I

748
01:19:02,028 --> 01:19:03,071
love, if we compare it

749
01:19:03,071 --> 01:19:04,030
to a lot of the other open

750
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:05,824
source tools that are out there with the

751
01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:07,451
DeepSeeks, the Metas, the

752
01:19:07,451 --> 01:19:08,160
Grox of the world, they're

753
01:19:08,201 --> 01:19:10,579
obviously all trained on data that is not

754
01:19:10,579 --> 01:19:13,498
necessarily owned by them.

755
01:19:13,498 --> 01:19:15,292
They're using the world wide web to train

756
01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:16,168
and build up their networks.

757
01:19:16,501 --> 01:19:17,752
You say world wide web.

758
01:19:17,752 --> 01:19:18,753
The world wide web.

759
01:19:19,379 --> 01:19:19,921
I think you mean

760
01:19:19,921 --> 01:19:21,256
information super highly, Chris.

761
01:19:21,798 --> 01:19:22,257
My apologies.

762
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:23,967
Yes.

763
01:19:25,969 --> 01:19:27,679
But what Varna is doing is they're

764
01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:29,014
actually having people

765
01:19:29,014 --> 01:19:32,267
who are vibing for lack of a

766
01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:33,310
better word at the moment.

767
01:19:33,643 --> 01:19:34,186
What are you talking about?

768
01:19:34,603 --> 01:19:35,979
Vibing with the experience that they're

769
01:19:35,979 --> 01:19:37,439
all feeding at the data and training.

770
01:19:37,522 --> 01:19:38,815
So they've got a million people who are

771
01:19:38,815 --> 01:19:39,441
on board with the

772
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:40,525
project who are contributing

773
01:19:40,942 --> 01:19:43,028
to the training of this particular data.

774
01:19:43,236 --> 01:19:44,196
What could go wrong?

775
01:19:44,196 --> 01:19:46,865
They struck a $60 million deal with

776
01:19:46,865 --> 01:19:48,825
Google to their search

777
01:19:48,825 --> 01:19:50,076
giant to use the data on their

778
01:19:50,076 --> 01:19:50,827
platform as well.

779
01:19:51,161 --> 01:19:53,663
So they're actually training it with data

780
01:19:53,663 --> 01:19:56,082
that people are honestly utilizing.

781
01:19:56,333 --> 01:19:57,042
So it's not like...

782
01:19:57,459 --> 01:19:58,418
Except for Redis users.

783
01:19:58,752 --> 01:20:00,253
I mean, they're not part of the

784
01:20:00,253 --> 01:20:01,129
discussions, it seems.

785
01:20:01,796 --> 01:20:02,255
Potentially, yeah.

786
01:20:02,506 --> 01:20:05,091
So it's an interesting thing because it's

787
01:20:05,091 --> 01:20:06,176
a little bit more honest.

788
01:20:06,218 --> 01:20:07,636
It's decentralized so people have control

789
01:20:07,636 --> 01:20:09,137
of the data that's pushing out there.

790
01:20:09,596 --> 01:20:10,764
And yeah, I hope they're...

791
01:20:11,056 --> 01:20:12,140
Can I just show you something quickly?

792
01:20:12,349 --> 01:20:13,141
Get on there early, boy.

793
01:20:13,141 --> 01:20:13,683
Get on there early.

794
01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:14,267
Check it out.

795
01:20:14,267 --> 01:20:15,185
Get on there early, folks.

796
01:20:15,185 --> 01:20:15,393
Varna.

797
01:20:16,019 --> 01:20:17,979
Checking out something that just

798
01:20:17,979 --> 01:20:19,689
triggered a thought is that

799
01:20:19,689 --> 01:20:20,649
there's a group called the

800
01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:22,275
Vareeta in the South Australia.

801
01:20:22,567 --> 01:20:23,485
They were doing stuff in the blockchain

802
01:20:23,485 --> 01:20:24,611
space and still are.

803
01:20:25,028 --> 01:20:27,572
But enabling and bringing their skills to

804
01:20:27,572 --> 01:20:28,490
the AI space because

805
01:20:28,490 --> 01:20:29,241
they've got this, which

806
01:20:29,241 --> 01:20:30,867
is the centralized infrastructure for

807
01:20:30,867 --> 01:20:33,119
your own private AI and stuff.

808
01:20:33,161 --> 01:20:34,829
They've got a great chat group that is

809
01:20:34,829 --> 01:20:35,997
working on this kind of

810
01:20:35,997 --> 01:20:37,165
stuff in their telegram.

811
01:20:37,457 --> 01:20:38,708
So shout out to those guys there.

812
01:20:39,751 --> 01:20:41,836
But yeah, they are Aussie and

813
01:20:41,836 --> 01:20:43,755
building this kind of stuff.

814
01:20:43,755 --> 01:20:46,091
So there's more of this yearning and push

815
01:20:46,091 --> 01:20:47,467
towards, "Hey, we

816
01:20:47,467 --> 01:20:48,802
want AI that's just built

817
01:20:48,802 --> 01:20:50,053
on my own data, but how

818
01:20:50,053 --> 01:20:51,179
do you actually secure it?"

819
01:20:51,179 --> 01:20:54,516
Because decentralization, numbers of

820
01:20:54,516 --> 01:20:55,725
nodes is a good way to

821
01:20:55,725 --> 01:20:56,768
secure kind of datasets.

822
01:20:57,185 --> 01:20:58,979
So really interesting stuff, I think.

823
01:20:59,729 --> 01:21:00,480
Let's go back to you.

824
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:02,107
I hope that trend continues to grow.

825
01:21:02,732 --> 01:21:07,404
What do you got? Let's jump into some exciting, cool...

826
01:21:07,404 --> 01:21:07,654
I don't know.

827
01:21:07,654 --> 01:21:08,280
I think that's just...

828
01:21:08,446 --> 01:21:11,241
Look, Google is absolutely killing it in

829
01:21:11,241 --> 01:21:12,242
the AI space right now.

830
01:21:12,784 --> 01:21:14,953
We had Gemini 2.5 Pro,

831
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:16,580
which released a few weeks ago.

832
01:21:17,205 --> 01:21:21,501
It's top of the charts in terms of the AI

833
01:21:21,501 --> 01:21:22,377
that everyone loves.

834
01:21:23,461 --> 01:21:25,046
It's becoming a favorite

835
01:21:25,046 --> 01:21:26,172
from a coding perspective.

836
01:21:27,507 --> 01:21:30,218
It's now integrated with a lot of our...

837
01:21:30,844 --> 01:21:33,179
If you're on the Google suite using

838
01:21:33,179 --> 01:21:34,973
slides and documents, it's

839
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:36,182
now fully integrated with

840
01:21:36,182 --> 01:21:36,474
that.

841
01:21:37,225 --> 01:21:38,184
Image generation, all

842
01:21:38,184 --> 01:21:39,185
those tools, fantastic.

843
01:21:40,186 --> 01:21:43,189
So they had a press conference yesterday

844
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:44,524
in line with some other

845
01:21:44,524 --> 01:21:45,317
announcements that happened

846
01:21:45,317 --> 01:21:46,526
over the last week and a bit.

847
01:21:47,027 --> 01:21:49,487
Starting with Google, they just partnered

848
01:21:49,487 --> 01:21:51,281
with NVIDIA for one of

849
01:21:51,281 --> 01:21:52,198
their Alphabet Quantum

850
01:21:52,282 --> 01:21:53,366
AI startups.

851
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:55,619
So $450 million funded

852
01:21:55,619 --> 01:21:58,079
into this funding round.

853
01:21:58,830 --> 01:21:59,914
We heard that they announced

854
01:21:59,914 --> 01:22:03,168
their chips a few months back.

855
01:22:03,627 --> 01:22:04,753
So this is building on that.

856
01:22:05,837 --> 01:22:07,881
And super excited for this.

857
01:22:07,881 --> 01:22:11,718
This is where AI is going to go from

858
01:22:11,718 --> 01:22:13,470
doing the little bits

859
01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:14,638
and pieces here, not quite

860
01:22:14,679 --> 01:22:18,099
reaching that true form of AGI into that

861
01:22:18,099 --> 01:22:19,809
unlimited power, which is

862
01:22:19,809 --> 01:22:20,769
a scary thing at the same

863
01:22:20,769 --> 01:22:22,562
time, but also pretty awesome.

864
01:22:23,980 --> 01:22:26,232
So using quantum computing, quantum

865
01:22:26,232 --> 01:22:28,526
techniques to really enhance how AI

866
01:22:28,526 --> 01:22:29,903
enters into the world.

867
01:22:30,111 --> 01:22:31,071
So just touching that, it's a pretty

868
01:22:31,071 --> 01:22:32,530
interesting thing to keep an eye on.

869
01:22:33,156 --> 01:22:36,242
But more excitingly, it was the

870
01:22:36,242 --> 01:22:37,243
announcements that I just

871
01:22:37,243 --> 01:22:39,579
highlighted before that Google,

872
01:22:39,579 --> 01:22:40,538
I'm just going to pull up some notes

873
01:22:40,538 --> 01:22:41,289
here, just around

874
01:22:41,289 --> 01:22:42,123
everything that they're saying

875
01:22:42,123 --> 01:22:42,499
as I...

876
01:22:43,458 --> 01:22:45,627
Trey put on this video.

877
01:22:46,169 --> 01:22:46,795
Oh, this video.

878
01:22:47,087 --> 01:22:47,587
This video.

879
01:22:48,088 --> 01:22:50,674
This is the presentation that our

880
01:22:50,674 --> 01:22:53,385
friends, the CEO, Thomas

881
01:22:53,385 --> 01:22:56,388
Kurian, and his colleagues

882
01:22:56,429 --> 01:22:58,139
were announcing all of the new things

883
01:22:58,139 --> 01:22:58,973
that are coming to Google

884
01:22:58,973 --> 01:23:01,559
Cloud and AI as we speak.

885
01:23:01,559 --> 01:23:03,103
A lot of all of them are out at the

886
01:23:03,103 --> 01:23:06,356
moment, but it's pretty, pretty exciting.

887
01:23:06,356 --> 01:23:07,273
Some of the things that they announced.

888
01:23:07,565 --> 01:23:11,277
...using Gemini, a 20 times increase in

889
01:23:11,277 --> 01:23:13,279
Vertex AI usage last year,

890
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:15,573
driven by the strong adoption

891
01:23:16,199 --> 01:23:21,454
of Gemini Flash, Gemini 2.0, Imagine 3.0,

892
01:23:21,996 --> 01:23:23,832
and most recently, VO,

893
01:23:24,332 --> 01:23:25,667
and how it can enable

894
01:23:25,667 --> 01:23:27,752
us to rethink what's possible.

895
01:23:29,337 --> 01:23:30,004
I think that's a

896
01:23:30,004 --> 01:23:31,381
fitting theme for Cloud Next.

897
01:23:33,299 --> 01:23:34,509
Today I'm proud to announce

898
01:23:34,509 --> 01:23:36,344
our seventh generation TPU.

899
01:23:37,721 --> 01:23:39,806
It's the most powerful chip we have ever

900
01:23:39,806 --> 01:23:41,933
built and will enable the

901
01:23:41,933 --> 01:23:43,393
next frontier of AI models

902
01:23:43,935 --> 01:23:46,229
and advanced reasoning that included the

903
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:47,814
highest score ever on

904
01:23:47,814 --> 01:23:49,274
humanity's last exam,

905
01:23:49,816 --> 01:23:51,860
one of the hardest industry benchmarks

906
01:23:51,860 --> 01:23:53,570
that's designed to

907
01:23:53,570 --> 01:23:54,904
capture the human frontier of

908
01:23:54,904 --> 01:23:55,822
knowledge and reasoning.

909
01:23:56,781 --> 01:23:58,032
VO2 is the leading

910
01:23:58,032 --> 01:23:59,284
video generation model.

911
01:24:00,243 --> 01:24:02,203
Major film studios, entertainment

912
01:24:02,203 --> 01:24:04,122
companies, as well as the

913
01:24:04,122 --> 01:24:05,707
top advertising agencies in

914
01:24:05,707 --> 01:24:07,667
the world are using it to

915
01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:09,085
bring their stories to life.

916
01:24:09,753 --> 01:24:12,338
So let's go ahead and use VO's new

917
01:24:12,338 --> 01:24:13,882
inpainting capability.

918
01:24:15,133 --> 01:24:16,843
And I'm sorry, sir, I apologize.

919
01:24:17,635 --> 01:24:20,180
I know you're very good at your job, but

920
01:24:20,180 --> 01:24:21,806
I am going to have to

921
01:24:21,806 --> 01:24:22,974
remove you from this image.

922
01:24:23,808 --> 01:24:25,518
We will send flowers to you and your

923
01:24:25,518 --> 01:24:26,394
family, though, sir.

924
01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:29,439
Let's use the new inpainting capability.

925
01:24:30,648 --> 01:24:34,152
It should preserve every single aspect of

926
01:24:34,152 --> 01:24:35,403
what we saw before,

927
01:24:35,403 --> 01:24:37,113
just without our stage

928
01:24:37,363 --> 01:24:37,447
hand.

929
01:24:38,364 --> 01:24:39,199
Look at that.

930
01:24:40,992 --> 01:24:42,619
Now you can build sophisticated

931
01:24:42,619 --> 01:24:45,705
Gemini-powered agents, help them use

932
01:24:45,705 --> 01:24:48,583
tools, do complex multi-step

933
01:24:48,583 --> 01:24:51,669
tasks, including reasoning or thinking.

934
01:24:52,796 --> 01:24:54,547
Google Agent Space combines Google

935
01:24:54,547 --> 01:24:56,132
Quality Enterprise Search,

936
01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:58,551
Conversational AI or Chat,

937
01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:01,846
and Gemini and third-party agents.

938
01:25:02,597 --> 01:25:03,515
So some of the cool things, the

939
01:25:03,515 --> 01:25:04,307
highlights, the things that

940
01:25:04,307 --> 01:25:05,642
I thought were really awesome

941
01:25:06,267 --> 01:25:07,018
that they announced.

942
01:25:07,268 --> 01:25:08,686
This was agent-to-agent protocol.

943
01:25:09,354 --> 01:25:10,522
So they also announced that they're

944
01:25:10,522 --> 01:25:11,189
releasing a whole bunch

945
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:12,357
of APIs for their own agent

946
01:25:12,398 --> 01:25:12,899
development.

947
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:14,776
But obviously, when it comes to building

948
01:25:14,776 --> 01:25:15,819
agents within certain

949
01:25:15,819 --> 01:25:18,321
ecosystems, there's the concern

950
01:25:18,363 --> 01:25:19,280
of, oh, but I've built

951
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,240
a whole bunch of agents.

952
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,324
And I love what this tool does.

953
01:25:21,324 --> 01:25:22,283
I love what that tool does.

954
01:25:22,617 --> 01:25:24,285
And then it ends a good example of

955
01:25:24,285 --> 01:25:25,119
someone who's tried to

956
01:25:25,119 --> 01:25:26,162
integrate lots of different

957
01:25:26,246 --> 01:25:27,372
tools and processes.

958
01:25:27,372 --> 01:25:28,748
But what it doesn't do well is integrate

959
01:25:28,748 --> 01:25:30,208
agents from other platforms.

960
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,294
And Google has announced that they're

961
01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:33,795
going to they're

962
01:25:33,795 --> 01:25:35,004
releasing a protocol that allows

963
01:25:35,171 --> 01:25:38,049
different agents to talk to each other.

964
01:25:38,049 --> 01:25:39,717
It's like a model context protocol.

965
01:25:39,884 --> 01:25:40,343
Exactly.

966
01:25:40,343 --> 01:25:41,469
It's exactly what it is.

967
01:25:41,469 --> 01:25:43,137
So he put a post out

968
01:25:43,137 --> 01:25:44,180
probably what it was about.

969
01:25:44,180 --> 01:25:45,348
I think it was last week going, hey,

970
01:25:45,348 --> 01:25:48,476
should we be opening up MCP

971
01:25:48,476 --> 01:25:49,561
into the Google ecosystem?

972
01:25:50,228 --> 01:25:51,521
And everyone was like, hell yes.

973
01:25:51,521 --> 01:25:52,772
And they've done it.

974
01:25:53,356 --> 01:25:55,275
So MCP, an

975
01:25:55,275 --> 01:25:57,152
agent-to-agent is now accessible.

976
01:25:57,527 --> 01:25:58,027
Well, it's coming.

977
01:25:58,319 --> 01:25:59,112
I don't know if it's out yet.

978
01:25:59,112 --> 01:25:59,988
It was only announced yesterday.

979
01:26:00,238 --> 01:26:00,738
But it will be

980
01:26:00,738 --> 01:26:02,657
accessible over over Google.

981
01:26:02,657 --> 01:26:03,408
So it's pretty exciting.

982
01:26:03,700 --> 01:26:03,825
So it's like, oh, I'm going
to get a new

983
01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:04,701
agent builders out there.

984
01:26:04,701 --> 01:26:06,911
Two things on that with the whole kind of

985
01:26:06,911 --> 01:26:07,161
like this

986
01:26:07,161 --> 01:26:08,621
agent-to-agent kind of like framework

987
01:26:08,705 --> 01:26:10,707
for allowing different agents to be able

988
01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:11,207
to speak the same

989
01:26:11,207 --> 01:26:12,166
language, which is the same

990
01:26:12,166 --> 01:26:16,546
thing as the brand is like as MCP, the

991
01:26:16,546 --> 01:26:17,422
model context protocol,

992
01:26:17,422 --> 01:26:18,506
which allows you to connect

993
01:26:18,506 --> 01:26:19,966
to all different systems and is really

994
01:26:19,966 --> 01:26:21,551
like it's offering some

995
01:26:21,551 --> 01:26:22,427
really interesting stuff.

996
01:26:22,427 --> 01:26:24,762
I've seen mostly positive kind of stuff

997
01:26:24,762 --> 01:26:25,430
on there, but then

998
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:26,931
there's alternate takes that

999
01:26:27,682 --> 01:26:28,474
are out there as well.

1000
01:26:28,683 --> 01:26:32,520
So we think about things like JSON, HTML,

1001
01:26:33,730 --> 01:26:35,148
TypeScript, and all

1002
01:26:35,148 --> 01:26:36,399
these like coding protocols

1003
01:26:36,399 --> 01:26:36,900
and stuff.

1004
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:38,818
They all started as these brand new ideas

1005
01:26:38,818 --> 01:26:40,820
and we'll see what takes off.

1006
01:26:41,154 --> 01:26:43,323
And so far, MCP is like it's interesting.

1007
01:26:43,323 --> 01:26:44,282
It's still early, though.

1008
01:26:45,158 --> 01:26:47,076
I just want to highlight there that for

1009
01:26:47,076 --> 01:26:47,785
one thing, there is

1010
01:26:47,785 --> 01:26:48,953
that like we need to think

1011
01:26:48,953 --> 01:26:51,497
about like which one will actually be the

1012
01:26:51,497 --> 01:26:54,459
one that wins in terms of adoption.

1013
01:26:54,667 --> 01:26:57,128
And secondly is that we were looking at

1014
01:26:57,128 --> 01:26:57,921
this kind of stuff, not

1015
01:26:57,921 --> 01:26:59,422
MCP type stuff, but this

1016
01:26:59,464 --> 01:27:00,840
problem that we were trying to solve,

1017
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,008
it's just a very initial.

1018
01:27:02,008 --> 01:27:03,593
It's nothing to do with multimodality.

1019
01:27:04,052 --> 01:27:05,929
It's only for tech stuff, but the

1020
01:27:05,929 --> 01:27:07,347
inconsistency of responses.

1021
01:27:07,597 --> 01:27:09,641
And we found and we built, well, Arturo

1022
01:27:09,641 --> 01:27:10,767
built, my colleague at

1023
01:27:10,767 --> 01:27:11,768
North Central, our shout outs,

1024
01:27:13,228 --> 01:27:16,481
a way to have a let's call it a framework

1025
01:27:16,481 --> 01:27:17,357
to have that

1026
01:27:17,357 --> 01:27:19,734
consistency where it's YAML based

1027
01:27:20,026 --> 01:27:21,569
and really interesting stuff there.

1028
01:27:21,819 --> 01:27:22,904
Because when you just have JSON, there's

1029
01:27:22,904 --> 01:27:24,072
no instructions with

1030
01:27:24,072 --> 01:27:24,989
YAML, you can have both

1031
01:27:24,989 --> 01:27:27,075
JSON structure as well

1032
01:27:27,075 --> 01:27:28,534
as like instructions.

1033
01:27:28,743 --> 01:27:30,244
And that was a real kind of breakthrough.

1034
01:27:30,244 --> 01:27:31,079
And we built that.

1035
01:27:31,329 --> 01:27:34,415
So and then I've seen open AI, one of the

1036
01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:35,166
people that left

1037
01:27:35,166 --> 01:27:36,501
there, he went off to try

1038
01:27:36,501 --> 01:27:37,585
to build a company that's

1039
01:27:37,585 --> 01:27:39,629
focused on this kind of stuff.

1040
01:27:40,254 --> 01:27:42,799
Like maybe I don't know, it's MCP came

1041
01:27:42,799 --> 01:27:43,591
out from anthropic and

1042
01:27:43,591 --> 01:27:44,384
everyone else is using

1043
01:27:44,384 --> 01:27:44,717
it now.

1044
01:27:44,717 --> 01:27:46,552
But it's just interesting to see that

1045
01:27:46,552 --> 01:27:47,929
we're at that age where

1046
01:27:47,929 --> 01:27:48,721
people want to have that

1047
01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:49,514
standards and

1048
01:27:49,514 --> 01:27:51,641
consistency to enable adoption.

1049
01:27:51,975 --> 01:27:54,978
And if my, I mean, MCP or started from

1050
01:27:54,978 --> 01:27:55,895
anthropic, so if my

1051
01:27:55,895 --> 01:27:57,480
understanding from the articles is

1052
01:27:57,480 --> 01:27:58,606
correct, so Google has done the same

1053
01:27:58,606 --> 01:28:00,358
thing utilizing for what

1054
01:28:00,358 --> 01:28:01,567
anthropic has done to the

1055
01:28:01,567 --> 01:28:02,860
whole MCP stuff, because

1056
01:28:02,860 --> 01:28:04,112
obviously they built it.

1057
01:28:04,112 --> 01:28:04,320
Yeah.

1058
01:28:04,779 --> 01:28:05,279
Which is fantastic.

1059
01:28:05,488 --> 01:28:06,823
I think that's such a is going to be

1060
01:28:06,823 --> 01:28:07,365
super powerful,

1061
01:28:07,365 --> 01:28:08,741
particularly because Google is becoming

1062
01:28:08,741 --> 01:28:10,410
such a powerhouse in this whole space

1063
01:28:10,410 --> 01:28:11,911
from a development's perspective.

1064
01:28:13,705 --> 01:28:16,249
Some other big ones, Imogen 3.

1065
01:28:17,166 --> 01:28:18,167
Obviously this is competing with what

1066
01:28:18,167 --> 01:28:19,794
open AI has been releasing.

1067
01:28:19,961 --> 01:28:22,338
So the Imogen 3 is just a new image

1068
01:28:22,338 --> 01:28:24,632
generation, reducing any issues, any

1069
01:28:24,632 --> 01:28:25,675
errors that are popping

1070
01:28:25,675 --> 01:28:27,885
up in their screens in

1071
01:28:27,885 --> 01:28:29,262
the images that show up.

1072
01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:31,723
I don't think it's quite there with what

1073
01:28:31,723 --> 01:28:33,266
open AI has been able to

1074
01:28:33,266 --> 01:28:34,767
do with their recent release

1075
01:28:34,892 --> 01:28:36,269
into 4.0.

1076
01:28:36,644 --> 01:28:39,480
But it's still hugely beneficial,

1077
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:40,523
especially because of its

1078
01:28:40,523 --> 01:28:42,859
integrations with slides and

1079
01:28:43,234 --> 01:28:44,694
documents and all those other things that

1080
01:28:44,694 --> 01:28:45,194
people would be

1081
01:28:45,194 --> 01:28:46,320
utilizing in their day to day

1082
01:28:46,487 --> 01:28:46,696
work.

1083
01:28:46,821 --> 01:28:49,574
So no more having to jump around trying

1084
01:28:49,574 --> 01:28:51,117
to find images in your own thing.

1085
01:28:51,117 --> 01:28:53,327
You can use open AI or you can now use

1086
01:28:53,327 --> 01:28:54,037
the embedded tools

1087
01:28:54,037 --> 01:28:56,247
inside of Google systems.

1088
01:28:56,414 --> 01:28:57,290
Hey Google, find that

1089
01:28:57,290 --> 01:28:58,666
dinosaur pic of Chris, thank you.

1090
01:28:59,333 --> 01:28:59,542
Yes.

1091
01:28:59,751 --> 01:29:01,753
Another really cool one is VOTU.

1092
01:29:02,128 --> 01:29:06,674
So Google has been, VOTU, V-O-2, V-O-2,

1093
01:29:06,674 --> 01:29:09,385
V-E-O-2 to say the acronym correctly.

1094
01:29:10,386 --> 01:29:13,139
They have also, they've had a huge update

1095
01:29:13,139 --> 01:29:16,517
that allows you to do a lot more 3D image

1096
01:29:16,517 --> 01:29:17,018
generation.

1097
01:29:17,894 --> 01:29:18,269
Oh, yo.

1098
01:29:19,437 --> 01:29:20,605
So 3D video generation.

1099
01:29:22,190 --> 01:29:23,441
One of the more interesting thing is also

1100
01:29:23,441 --> 01:29:26,069
first and last shot control.

1101
01:29:26,486 --> 01:29:29,489
So imagine you can have a still for say a

1102
01:29:29,489 --> 01:29:30,239
front on picture, you

1103
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:31,032
can see the demo here.

1104
01:29:31,324 --> 01:29:33,534
They have a still of the rear end and it

1105
01:29:33,534 --> 01:29:34,619
will just connect the

1106
01:29:34,619 --> 01:29:35,661
two up in this nice little

1107
01:29:35,661 --> 01:29:36,871
video visual.

1108
01:29:36,871 --> 01:29:37,455
I was seeing some, I

1109
01:29:37,455 --> 01:29:38,456
think Runway was doing that.

1110
01:29:38,831 --> 01:29:39,832
They were doing it.

1111
01:29:40,124 --> 01:29:41,167
It's more the fact that Google has now

1112
01:29:41,167 --> 01:29:42,752
brought it in with the

1113
01:29:42,752 --> 01:29:44,837
power of their whole 2.5 Pro.

1114
01:29:44,837 --> 01:29:45,797
With the power of copying.

1115
01:29:46,089 --> 01:29:48,007
They, well, yeah, I mean, everything's

1116
01:29:48,007 --> 01:29:48,800
going to be copied now.

1117
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,717
It's just the little

1118
01:29:49,717 --> 01:29:50,927
tweaks that make things better.

1119
01:29:50,927 --> 01:29:51,677
Just on that note,

1120
01:29:51,969 --> 01:29:53,304
like ideas are free folks.

1121
01:29:53,554 --> 01:29:54,305
I just want to say that

1122
01:29:54,305 --> 01:29:57,016
ideas are absolutely free.

1123
01:29:57,475 --> 01:29:59,477
It is up to you as to

1124
01:29:59,477 --> 01:30:00,978
how you execute and stuff.

1125
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,565
So yeah, anyway, diving further into

1126
01:30:04,565 --> 01:30:05,566
that, what else have you got?

1127
01:30:05,817 --> 01:30:07,568
Yeah, a couple of final things.

1128
01:30:08,528 --> 01:30:10,321
If you haven't seen it out there,

1129
01:30:10,613 --> 01:30:12,240
Firebase had, they've got

1130
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,616
2.5 Pro now integrated with

1131
01:30:13,616 --> 01:30:13,908
this.

1132
01:30:13,908 --> 01:30:15,785
So there's been a lot of people testing

1133
01:30:15,785 --> 01:30:18,204
this online and really

1134
01:30:18,204 --> 01:30:19,455
just starting the praises.

1135
01:30:19,455 --> 01:30:20,540
This is competing with obviously the

1136
01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:23,084
lovable and the bolt.us

1137
01:30:23,084 --> 01:30:25,753
and the, you know, the VOs

1138
01:30:25,753 --> 01:30:27,130
and all those other tools that are out

1139
01:30:27,130 --> 01:30:27,797
there that you were able

1140
01:30:27,797 --> 01:30:29,215
to do, you know, text to

1141
01:30:29,215 --> 01:30:29,924
code development.

1142
01:30:30,591 --> 01:30:33,427
And Firebase is now becoming one of the

1143
01:30:33,427 --> 01:30:35,179
leaders in that space.

1144
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:36,722
So definitely check it out.

1145
01:30:37,014 --> 01:30:38,641
I know you've been using Firebase

1146
01:30:38,641 --> 01:30:40,560
previously in another life

1147
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,019
before moving to Bolt, but

1148
01:30:42,311 --> 01:30:43,437
the competition is fierce.

1149
01:30:43,771 --> 01:30:45,189
It's using Bolt,

1150
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,024
using Firebase with Bolt.

1151
01:30:47,233 --> 01:30:48,192
It's not one or the other.

1152
01:30:48,192 --> 01:30:48,985
Oh, OK, you've been so violent.

1153
01:30:49,235 --> 01:30:49,652
So apologies.

1154
01:30:49,902 --> 01:30:50,278
Yeah, yeah.

1155
01:30:50,444 --> 01:30:53,114
Let's, the concept is called CRUD folks,

1156
01:30:53,865 --> 01:30:55,491
which is CRUD is a CRUD

1157
01:30:55,491 --> 01:30:56,993
app and all types are really

1158
01:30:56,993 --> 01:30:57,577
CRUD apps.

1159
01:30:58,286 --> 01:31:00,705
But it's like a really, I think it's more

1160
01:31:00,705 --> 01:31:01,664
synonymous with a bare

1161
01:31:01,664 --> 01:31:02,582
bones app, but like even

1162
01:31:02,665 --> 01:31:05,126
sophisticated apps are CRUD, as in you

1163
01:31:05,126 --> 01:31:06,252
connect to a database to

1164
01:31:06,252 --> 01:31:08,546
create, to read, to update

1165
01:31:08,629 --> 01:31:09,839
or delete data.

1166
01:31:10,464 --> 01:31:12,967
Firebase acts as one of those kinds of

1167
01:31:12,967 --> 01:31:14,427
databases and is very cost

1168
01:31:14,427 --> 01:31:15,511
effective and it comes from

1169
01:31:15,511 --> 01:31:16,429
Google and it's very

1170
01:31:16,429 --> 01:31:18,306
useful for some things.

1171
01:31:18,306 --> 01:31:21,184
But when it comes to and because they do

1172
01:31:21,184 --> 01:31:23,019
it with NoSQL, as in

1173
01:31:23,019 --> 01:31:24,145
that is the type of thing

1174
01:31:24,145 --> 01:31:25,563
is it's called NoSQL.

1175
01:31:25,897 --> 01:31:28,024
It's not very much like JSON files in

1176
01:31:28,024 --> 01:31:29,609
terms of how it records data.

1177
01:31:29,650 --> 01:31:31,485
And I think maybe they've

1178
01:31:31,485 --> 01:31:33,654
got other more SQL like stuff.

1179
01:31:33,654 --> 01:31:35,281
But anyway, when we were doing initially

1180
01:31:35,281 --> 01:31:37,033
OZ-DeFi stuff, it was

1181
01:31:37,033 --> 01:31:38,201
limited in terms of what we

1182
01:31:38,201 --> 01:31:39,493
could do because it was NoSQL.

1183
01:31:39,869 --> 01:31:41,871
If I wanted to do ETF tracker, I mean,

1184
01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:43,331
ETF tracker, not OZ-DeFi.

1185
01:31:44,332 --> 01:31:46,584
But I've moved to Superbase because a

1186
01:31:46,584 --> 01:31:48,669
Bolt has more native integration with it.

1187
01:31:48,669 --> 01:31:51,380
But they will bring Firebase in there.

1188
01:31:52,006 --> 01:31:55,635
But we were using Bolt connected to it

1189
01:31:55,635 --> 01:31:56,802
otherwise, which is Firebase.

1190
01:31:56,802 --> 01:31:57,637
And I'm not saying that

1191
01:31:57,637 --> 01:31:58,554
we're going to move on from that.

1192
01:31:58,596 --> 01:32:00,514
So to elaborate, Firebase

1193
01:32:00,514 --> 01:32:02,058
Studio is the key thing here.

1194
01:32:02,391 --> 01:32:04,393
I'm not logged into at the moment.

1195
01:32:04,477 --> 01:32:06,437
So essentially they've launched Firebase

1196
01:32:06,437 --> 01:32:07,230
Studio, which is a

1197
01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:08,397
cloud based, AI powered,

1198
01:32:08,397 --> 01:32:10,191
integrated development environment that

1199
01:32:10,191 --> 01:32:11,317
lets you build fully

1200
01:32:11,317 --> 01:32:13,486
fledged apps using prompts.

1201
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,072
So that's what fully fledged apps.

1202
01:32:16,072 --> 01:32:17,156
This is why I'm saying they're competing

1203
01:32:17,156 --> 01:32:19,200
with the Curses, the

1204
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,285
Bolts and other tools.

1205
01:32:21,285 --> 01:32:22,411
I was hoping they'd have a thing on their

1206
01:32:22,411 --> 01:32:22,912
home page of the

1207
01:32:22,912 --> 01:32:23,663
website, but they haven't.

1208
01:32:23,996 --> 01:32:25,623
Yeah, which is why I have a website.

1209
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:26,249
Yeah.

1210
01:32:26,457 --> 01:32:27,875
So you can see here,

1211
01:32:27,875 --> 01:32:29,043
this is Firebase Studio.

1212
01:32:29,252 --> 01:32:30,544
It just looks exactly like all of the

1213
01:32:30,544 --> 01:32:32,380
other tools that text to the image

1214
01:32:32,380 --> 01:32:34,382
generation or text to code generation.

1215
01:32:35,007 --> 01:32:36,008
And you're able to build your

1216
01:32:36,008 --> 01:32:37,093
applications inside of this.

1217
01:32:37,093 --> 01:32:38,052
And this is what we've been seeing

1218
01:32:38,052 --> 01:32:39,637
through it all around social media, etc.

1219
01:32:40,388 --> 01:32:41,097
People competing with it

1220
01:32:41,097 --> 01:32:42,348
too and really loving it.

1221
01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:43,766
They have some people,

1222
01:32:43,766 --> 01:32:44,767
it's like it's early stage.

1223
01:32:44,767 --> 01:32:46,978
Some people have noticed some issues or

1224
01:32:46,978 --> 01:32:48,646
they're not getting quite to the quality,

1225
01:32:48,646 --> 01:32:49,522
the high level quality that

1226
01:32:49,522 --> 01:32:50,523
they want at the end of it.

1227
01:32:50,523 --> 01:32:52,400
But I think the simplicity of it is what

1228
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,234
people have been praising.

1229
01:32:53,276 --> 01:32:54,777
And just like that, the first

1230
01:32:54,777 --> 01:32:56,404
and second step of accuracy.

1231
01:32:56,988 --> 01:32:59,824
And we've seen even in Google's other

1232
01:32:59,824 --> 01:33:02,910
studio tool, you were able to create some

1233
01:33:02,910 --> 01:33:06,122
pretty elaborate, even 3D games and other

1234
01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:08,791
environments using 2.5.

1235
01:33:09,458 --> 01:33:11,544
So it won't be much of a stretch for this

1236
01:33:11,544 --> 01:33:13,254
tool to catch up with the competition

1237
01:33:13,254 --> 01:33:14,964
with all the new

1238
01:33:14,964 --> 01:33:16,007
updates coming to Gemini.

1239
01:33:16,007 --> 01:33:16,424
Love it.

1240
01:33:18,592 --> 01:33:20,720
And yeah, that's it for news.

1241
01:33:21,762 --> 01:33:23,639
All the main part of news, do we want to

1242
01:33:23,639 --> 01:33:25,391
sideline into a bit of an

1243
01:33:25,391 --> 01:33:26,350
interesting topic conversation?

1244
01:33:26,642 --> 01:33:27,977
Oh, mate, hit me up.

1245
01:33:28,436 --> 01:33:29,020
Hit me up.

1246
01:33:29,020 --> 01:33:29,603
I'm so excited.

1247
01:33:30,229 --> 01:33:31,188
So I raised the head there.

1248
01:33:31,188 --> 01:33:32,064
I am the forgotten wife.

1249
01:33:33,482 --> 01:33:34,317
Chris has many wives.

1250
01:33:35,276 --> 01:33:36,360
Anyway, just cutting it.

1251
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:36,944
Don't tell them.

1252
01:33:37,486 --> 01:33:37,987
She's published.

1253
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:43,117
So Atlassian, the great Aussie unicorn

1254
01:33:43,117 --> 01:33:45,119
out there, they're also

1255
01:33:45,119 --> 01:33:46,412
adding AI into their tools.

1256
01:33:46,871 --> 01:33:48,706
And it's great just like before, because

1257
01:33:48,706 --> 01:33:49,498
a lot of these tools,

1258
01:33:49,999 --> 01:33:51,042
maybe they had AI in there.

1259
01:33:51,083 --> 01:33:53,210
But I had to go to jump into multiple

1260
01:33:53,210 --> 01:33:54,378
kinds of different tools.

1261
01:33:54,378 --> 01:33:56,088
And so that's why I built my own CRM.

1262
01:33:56,088 --> 01:33:57,590
Like I love Jira, but I

1263
01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:58,966
needed to do all this other stuff.

1264
01:33:58,966 --> 01:34:00,718
And my tool doesn't have all the features

1265
01:34:00,718 --> 01:34:03,387
that, you know, Jira has.

1266
01:34:03,387 --> 01:34:04,972
But the point is that if you only need

1267
01:34:04,972 --> 01:34:07,475
certain things, some pathways mean you

1268
01:34:07,475 --> 01:34:08,059
could just hyper

1269
01:34:08,059 --> 01:34:09,393
personalize and build your own.

1270
01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:12,897
I am seeing like more people that are in

1271
01:34:12,897 --> 01:34:15,066
this space that are builders and, you

1272
01:34:15,066 --> 01:34:16,859
know, very influential builders, like

1273
01:34:16,859 --> 01:34:18,986
even Reuven Cohen, for example, pointed

1274
01:34:18,986 --> 01:34:19,653
out that one of the

1275
01:34:19,653 --> 01:34:20,780
things that he focuses on

1276
01:34:20,780 --> 01:34:22,740
in terms of his work is actually building

1277
01:34:22,740 --> 01:34:24,450
those hyper personalized apps.

1278
01:34:25,117 --> 01:34:26,285
So it's interesting.

1279
01:34:26,535 --> 01:34:28,287
You know, I saw it as like something that

1280
01:34:28,287 --> 01:34:29,538
is probably happening.

1281
01:34:30,039 --> 01:34:30,998
Nice to see the validation.

1282
01:34:31,248 --> 01:34:32,917
Anyway, if you don't want that and you

1283
01:34:32,917 --> 01:34:34,418
just want AI in these tools, whether it's

1284
01:34:34,418 --> 01:34:35,795
Google, Atlassian is now

1285
01:34:35,795 --> 01:34:36,670
doing something with Rovo.

1286
01:34:37,380 --> 01:34:40,508
And Rovo is free in all their apps.

1287
01:34:40,841 --> 01:34:42,385
Now they're charged for it later on, or

1288
01:34:42,385 --> 01:34:43,344
maybe it's just a way to keep.

1289
01:34:43,803 --> 01:34:44,261
Interesting.

1290
01:34:44,261 --> 01:34:45,262
This website, DigiNomica,

1291
01:34:45,554 --> 01:34:47,098
they have a dyslexia mode.

1292
01:34:47,223 --> 01:34:50,142
So I can turn this on and now you've got

1293
01:34:50,142 --> 01:34:52,395
a way if you are dyslexic

1294
01:34:52,395 --> 01:34:53,687
and I kind of am sometimes.

1295
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:54,980
Oh, wow.

1296
01:34:54,980 --> 01:34:55,689
That I'd love that.

1297
01:34:55,898 --> 01:34:56,774
That you can read it better.

1298
01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:58,484
I've seen a better version of this where

1299
01:34:58,484 --> 01:34:59,652
it actually makes the...

1300
01:35:00,069 --> 01:35:01,445
So what it's doing for folks that are

1301
01:35:01,445 --> 01:35:02,988
listening in, it's making

1302
01:35:02,988 --> 01:35:04,532
the letters a bit bigger.

1303
01:35:05,449 --> 01:35:08,953
The first letters or the first, yeah, the

1304
01:35:08,953 --> 01:35:10,204
capital letters and

1305
01:35:10,204 --> 01:35:11,497
stuff, they're a bit bolder.

1306
01:35:11,956 --> 01:35:13,457
I've seen one where it does it for a few

1307
01:35:13,457 --> 01:35:14,875
of the syllables, like the

1308
01:35:14,875 --> 01:35:16,627
THs and the starts of letters.

1309
01:35:16,669 --> 01:35:18,379
It makes it a bit bolder and it does make

1310
01:35:18,379 --> 01:35:20,464
it easy to read, especially if you're

1311
01:35:20,464 --> 01:35:21,966
ADDing and stuff like that.

1312
01:35:21,966 --> 01:35:24,427
And just hyper focusing on like weird and

1313
01:35:24,427 --> 01:35:25,386
wonderful different things.

1314
01:35:25,386 --> 01:35:26,512
It helps, but they've got that.

1315
01:35:26,846 --> 01:35:28,180
Another one that was interesting news.

1316
01:35:28,597 --> 01:35:30,099
South Australian.

1317
01:35:30,307 --> 01:35:31,100
I will say that right.

1318
01:35:31,517 --> 01:35:32,768
South of the old FFA.

1319
01:35:32,768 --> 01:35:34,437
South Australian drivers.

1320
01:35:34,895 --> 01:35:36,021
Stop that one just because I'm noticing

1321
01:35:36,021 --> 01:35:38,149
the thing is getting so bright.

1322
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:38,732
Oh my God.

1323
01:35:40,067 --> 01:35:40,317
How?

1324
01:35:42,111 --> 01:35:42,736
I think it's just mainly

1325
01:35:42,736 --> 01:35:44,905
me because I'm so white.

1326
01:35:45,614 --> 01:35:46,740
Yeah, you were getting whiter.

1327
01:35:47,450 --> 01:35:49,201
I don't even know if I can darken that.

1328
01:35:53,456 --> 01:35:54,206
What could I do?

1329
01:35:55,624 --> 01:35:56,167
So bright.

1330
01:35:56,167 --> 01:35:56,625
That's crazy.

1331
01:35:57,543 --> 01:35:57,793
How?

1332
01:35:58,085 --> 01:36:00,337
I could reduce this.

1333
01:36:02,673 --> 01:36:03,507
I can be bright.

1334
01:36:03,757 --> 01:36:04,633
I can be bright.

1335
01:36:04,633 --> 01:36:05,259
I can be bright.

1336
01:36:05,468 --> 01:36:06,302
I can be bright.

1337
01:36:06,302 --> 01:36:06,844
I can be bright.

1338
01:36:07,219 --> 01:36:07,928
I can be bright.

1339
01:36:07,928 --> 01:36:08,471
I can be bright.

1340
01:36:08,471 --> 01:36:09,930
So starting with this outstranding.

1341
01:36:10,598 --> 01:36:10,848
Okay.

1342
01:36:12,558 --> 01:36:13,309
One second.

1343
01:36:13,684 --> 01:36:15,686
I just want to see what this AI shit is.

1344
01:36:16,770 --> 01:36:17,104
What is it?

1345
01:36:17,396 --> 01:36:17,980
I don't know.

1346
01:36:17,980 --> 01:36:18,647
Let's find out.

1347
01:36:19,356 --> 01:36:20,524
Anyway, I'll be on backside for straight.

1348
01:36:21,066 --> 01:36:22,735
I can be bright all the time.

1349
01:36:22,943 --> 01:36:23,360
Yeah, that's one.

1350
01:36:24,403 --> 01:36:25,696
Three, two, one.

1351
01:36:26,697 --> 01:36:28,282
And another bit of news is that South

1352
01:36:28,282 --> 01:36:30,075
Australia, the drivers are going to be

1353
01:36:30,075 --> 01:36:31,577
monitored with AI cameras.

1354
01:36:32,161 --> 01:36:33,871
Oh, I know they've been

1355
01:36:33,871 --> 01:36:35,206
talking about this for a while.

1356
01:36:35,206 --> 01:36:38,292
There's now like prompting kind of a bit

1357
01:36:38,292 --> 01:36:39,919
of an outrage of people going, I don't

1358
01:36:39,919 --> 01:36:42,505
want to be looked at by an AI.

1359
01:36:42,671 --> 01:36:43,672
AI while I'm doing

1360
01:36:43,672 --> 01:36:45,007
things illegally in my car.

1361
01:36:45,299 --> 01:36:46,383
I hate articles like this.

1362
01:36:46,634 --> 01:36:48,636
There's a big difference between Gen AI

1363
01:36:48,636 --> 01:36:52,598
and Vision AI, which is, you know, so one

1364
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:56,936
is generative, generative AI and it's

1365
01:36:56,936 --> 01:36:58,729
probability based and stuff and other

1366
01:36:58,979 --> 01:37:01,899
ones are and stuff as well, but Vision AI

1367
01:37:01,899 --> 01:37:04,360
is, you know, that's something else

1368
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,195
completely, there's machine learning, you

1369
01:37:06,195 --> 01:37:07,321
know, that's also part of the AI.

1370
01:37:07,321 --> 01:37:08,572
I don't know, but this is just Vision AI.

1371
01:37:08,822 --> 01:37:09,365
I don't know.

1372
01:37:09,657 --> 01:37:10,032
I don't know.

1373
01:37:10,074 --> 01:37:13,827
But yeah, we're finding out here and it

1374
01:37:13,827 --> 01:37:15,996
does not seem like it gives details

1375
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,082
apart from a high level, it's AI.

1376
01:37:18,958 --> 01:37:20,751
So, you know, this is the thing.

1377
01:37:20,918 --> 01:37:23,045
This is the type of stuff that even if

1378
01:37:23,045 --> 01:37:24,922
you're in a corner of AI that has

1379
01:37:24,964 --> 01:37:26,882
nothing to do with that, just like we see

1380
01:37:26,882 --> 01:37:28,592
in the blockchain and crypto space, you

1381
01:37:28,592 --> 01:37:30,427
will be painted with, or

1382
01:37:30,427 --> 01:37:32,346
tainted with the same kind of brush.

1383
01:37:32,346 --> 01:37:33,639
So just something to look out for there.

1384
01:37:34,014 --> 01:37:34,974
He shoots, he scores.

1385
01:37:36,141 --> 01:37:37,935
As tensions grow as well, an Australian

1386
01:37:37,935 --> 01:37:40,521
AI Safety Institute is a no brainer.

1387
01:37:40,521 --> 01:37:42,648
This is an article from The Strategist,

1388
01:37:43,023 --> 01:37:45,359
really interesting one calling for this

1389
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:49,154
need to create an AI safety center, you

1390
01:37:49,154 --> 01:37:52,157
know, a group, so to speak.

1391
01:37:52,157 --> 01:37:55,035
So hopefully if they do and are able to

1392
01:37:55,035 --> 01:37:56,120
get something like that off the ground,

1393
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:57,580
I mean, there's really like the tech

1394
01:37:57,580 --> 01:37:59,415
council of Australia, there's National

1395
01:37:59,456 --> 01:38:02,167
AI Center, there's all these different

1396
01:38:02,167 --> 01:38:03,669
like bodies and stuff and associations.

1397
01:38:03,961 --> 01:38:04,628
We're trying to create

1398
01:38:04,628 --> 01:38:05,879
something in that space as well.

1399
01:38:06,130 --> 01:38:07,715
I just hope that there are ways that we

1400
01:38:07,715 --> 01:38:09,884
can bring not just the associations, not

1401
01:38:09,884 --> 01:38:11,385
just the policymakers, not just the

1402
01:38:11,385 --> 01:38:13,679
public or the builders, but everyone

1403
01:38:13,887 --> 01:38:15,514
that is involved gets to have a say.

1404
01:38:15,723 --> 01:38:18,350
So let's see what happens there.

1405
01:38:18,350 --> 01:38:20,811
Another bit of news is that there's tens

1406
01:38:20,811 --> 01:38:22,187
of thousands of creatives signing

1407
01:38:22,271 --> 01:38:22,980
petitions against

1408
01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:25,941
unlicensed generative AI training.

1409
01:38:27,276 --> 01:38:29,737
So again, again, again, more than 50,000

1410
01:38:29,737 --> 01:38:30,821
actually creators have signed a

1411
01:38:30,863 --> 01:38:33,240
statement on AI training, which is

1412
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,617
interesting because you see this on the

1413
01:38:34,617 --> 01:38:36,702
one side and then you see, I think it's

1414
01:38:36,702 --> 01:38:38,704
H&M or like one of those groups that's

1415
01:38:38,704 --> 01:38:41,165
like making it so that, or they're

1416
01:38:41,165 --> 01:38:42,750
pushing campaign that their models, like,

1417
01:38:42,750 --> 01:38:44,710
yes, they're using digital kind of stuff,

1418
01:38:45,544 --> 01:38:47,087
but they own their images.

1419
01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:50,049
They own, and however their, you know,

1420
01:38:50,049 --> 01:38:52,468
their, their model digital twin is used.

1421
01:38:52,593 --> 01:38:54,345
They get a say in that and

1422
01:38:54,345 --> 01:38:55,763
they get to play a part of it.

1423
01:38:55,763 --> 01:38:56,889
So that sounds like a

1424
01:38:56,889 --> 01:38:57,598
really ethical thing.

1425
01:38:58,098 --> 01:39:00,726
This one is I think just calling for,

1426
01:39:02,144 --> 01:39:03,604
well, it's warning on the use.

1427
01:39:04,521 --> 01:39:06,899
There's a good summary here that the

1428
01:39:06,899 --> 01:39:07,691
legal battles are

1429
01:39:07,691 --> 01:39:09,234
underway across the globe.

1430
01:39:09,526 --> 01:39:10,778
Now, whether they call for a halt, I

1431
01:39:10,778 --> 01:39:12,279
think that'd be really hard, right?

1432
01:39:13,072 --> 01:39:15,532
Like one halts and then China and others

1433
01:39:15,532 --> 01:39:17,159
will just like continue to create maybe.

1434
01:39:17,368 --> 01:39:17,576
Yeah.

1435
01:39:17,660 --> 01:39:17,868
Yeah.

1436
01:39:18,827 --> 01:39:20,412
Or there was like a better way to work,

1437
01:39:20,704 --> 01:39:22,206
you know, like some, some ethical stuff.

1438
01:39:22,206 --> 01:39:23,957
And it's really interesting with the, the

1439
01:39:23,957 --> 01:39:26,752
GPT image stuff that they just let it so

1440
01:39:26,794 --> 01:39:29,171
that, I mean, I asked for a combination

1441
01:39:29,171 --> 01:39:31,256
of Barbie and Oppenheimer just for fun.

1442
01:39:32,091 --> 01:39:34,385
Um, and it literally gave me both the

1443
01:39:34,385 --> 01:39:36,011
characters, they're real images like

1444
01:39:36,011 --> 01:39:38,097
Margot Robbie and, uh,

1445
01:39:38,097 --> 01:39:38,889
what's the guy's name?

1446
01:39:39,848 --> 01:39:41,308
The Oppenheimer dude.

1447
01:39:42,017 --> 01:39:43,185
Um, he was Christopher Nolan.

1448
01:39:43,602 --> 01:39:44,603
No, no, no.

1449
01:39:44,603 --> 01:39:45,104
Oh, the actor.

1450
01:39:45,562 --> 01:39:45,771
Yeah.

1451
01:39:46,021 --> 01:39:46,230
Yeah.

1452
01:39:46,814 --> 01:39:49,233
He was in, you know, shady, shady, shady,

1453
01:39:49,233 --> 01:39:50,442
shady, shady, shady,

1454
01:39:50,943 --> 01:39:52,444
blinders, shady, blinders folks.

1455
01:39:52,736 --> 01:39:52,903
Yeah.

1456
01:39:53,153 --> 01:39:54,905
But, um, both of those actors, it

1457
01:39:54,905 --> 01:39:56,115
generated them is my point.

1458
01:39:56,490 --> 01:39:58,033
It's like, I thought it wouldn't do that

1459
01:39:58,033 --> 01:39:59,201
kind of stuff, but it literally.

1460
01:39:59,493 --> 01:39:59,785
Yeah.

1461
01:39:59,785 --> 01:40:00,285
Finnerly does.

1462
01:40:00,494 --> 01:40:00,703
Yeah.

1463
01:40:00,869 --> 01:40:01,078
Yeah.

1464
01:40:01,203 --> 01:40:02,246
Um, Cassillian Murphy.

1465
01:40:02,538 --> 01:40:03,080
Silly and Murphy.

1466
01:40:03,330 --> 01:40:04,039
Yes, exactly.

1467
01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:04,707
So the Oppenheimer thing.

1468
01:40:05,124 --> 01:40:06,208
Anyway, so interesting.

1469
01:40:06,458 --> 01:40:07,751
We're seeing all these like, you know,

1470
01:40:07,751 --> 01:40:08,877
things coming together.

1471
01:40:09,420 --> 01:40:10,254
Um, another one, AI

1472
01:40:10,254 --> 01:40:11,046
needs a lot of energy.

1473
01:40:11,255 --> 01:40:12,548
So Trump says Cole is the answer.

1474
01:40:13,340 --> 01:40:15,801
So God, you know, bringing back the job,

1475
01:40:15,801 --> 01:40:16,760
bringing back to whole workers,

1476
01:40:17,010 --> 01:40:17,845
bringing back all those

1477
01:40:17,845 --> 01:40:18,804
interesting materials.

1478
01:40:18,804 --> 01:40:19,930
I don't know if you saw the video folks

1479
01:40:19,930 --> 01:40:22,641
where it's like, um, uh, a factory kind

1480
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:24,852
of setting where it's a whole lot of like

1481
01:40:24,852 --> 01:40:26,687
American workers and stuff is what

1482
01:40:26,687 --> 01:40:27,521
it's supposed to represent.

1483
01:40:27,521 --> 01:40:28,689
And then someone's like replaced it with

1484
01:40:28,689 --> 01:40:29,690
Trump and it's all AI.

1485
01:40:30,274 --> 01:40:31,692
And it's just like, I mean,

1486
01:40:32,526 --> 01:40:33,193
actually, we're good.

1487
01:40:33,193 --> 01:40:33,610
That'll be, that's an

1488
01:40:33,610 --> 01:40:34,570
interesting sideline.

1489
01:40:35,028 --> 01:40:35,696
The next topic.

1490
01:40:36,155 --> 01:40:37,823
The people will like, you know, we'll,

1491
01:40:37,823 --> 01:40:39,825
um, complain about like, oh, how

1492
01:40:39,825 --> 01:40:40,242
people are going to

1493
01:40:40,242 --> 01:40:41,118
do like factory works.

1494
01:40:41,118 --> 01:40:42,202
And it's like, I saw a funny one.

1495
01:40:42,202 --> 01:40:43,620
It was like someone commented like, have

1496
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:44,288
you heard of robots?

1497
01:40:45,581 --> 01:40:46,373
There will be robots that

1498
01:40:46,373 --> 01:40:47,249
will do this kind of stuff.

1499
01:40:47,249 --> 01:40:48,375
There will be more factory.

1500
01:40:48,584 --> 01:40:49,835
Elon Musk is making them.

1501
01:40:50,169 --> 01:40:50,794
Yeah, exactly.

1502
01:40:51,086 --> 01:40:52,838
So I think, you know, there will be some.

1503
01:40:52,963 --> 01:40:56,967
As to how efficient that is.

1504
01:40:56,967 --> 01:40:58,010
That's a whole nother question.

1505
01:40:58,010 --> 01:40:59,970
We'll get some economists to answer that.

1506
01:40:59,970 --> 01:41:00,971
Did you want to jump to something?

1507
01:41:00,971 --> 01:41:02,139
I've got a few more little bits of news.

1508
01:41:02,514 --> 01:41:04,808
One small thing is a meta release llama

1509
01:41:04,808 --> 01:41:06,727
four, um, which is interesting.

1510
01:41:06,727 --> 01:41:08,270
So the llama four scout and llama four

1511
01:41:08,270 --> 01:41:09,980
Maverick, uh, so it's most powerful

1512
01:41:10,063 --> 01:41:12,232
models today designed specifically to

1513
01:41:12,232 --> 01:41:13,317
support, you know,

1514
01:41:13,317 --> 01:41:15,360
multi-modal, multi-modal

1515
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:15,944
experiences.

1516
01:41:16,862 --> 01:41:18,989
So, um, so for all the, again, open

1517
01:41:18,989 --> 01:41:19,698
source people out

1518
01:41:19,698 --> 01:41:21,241
there, um, which is, it's

1519
01:41:21,366 --> 01:41:23,035
something new, new and more powerful

1520
01:41:23,035 --> 01:41:25,078
compared to the other open source tools

1521
01:41:25,078 --> 01:41:26,622
and code up there.

1522
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,458
I love that they're doing a

1523
01:41:29,458 --> 01:41:30,959
lot of this free release stuff.

1524
01:41:30,959 --> 01:41:32,419
Because llama is like a model that

1525
01:41:32,419 --> 01:41:34,421
literally is open source and you can,

1526
01:41:34,463 --> 01:41:35,923
um, build on top of it.

1527
01:41:35,923 --> 01:41:37,382
I think the weights are available because

1528
01:41:37,382 --> 01:41:38,884
something is not quite open

1529
01:41:38,884 --> 01:41:39,968
source if they don't really, if the

1530
01:41:39,968 --> 01:41:41,553
weights you actually need that to fine

1531
01:41:41,553 --> 01:41:44,556
tune, but also I wonder if it's like.

1532
01:41:44,681 --> 01:41:46,809
Zuck and the crew just making up for all

1533
01:41:46,809 --> 01:41:48,268
the wrongdoings at the Cambridge,

1534
01:41:48,435 --> 01:41:49,436
Cambridge Analytica.

1535
01:41:49,937 --> 01:41:50,604
Look it up, kids.

1536
01:41:50,771 --> 01:41:53,106
Um, you know, that, that scandal about

1537
01:41:53,106 --> 01:41:56,026
farming your data with farming games,

1538
01:41:56,026 --> 01:41:57,194
using farming games,

1539
01:41:57,444 --> 01:41:59,154
your data, the irony, right?

1540
01:41:59,154 --> 01:41:59,780
I mean, who knows?

1541
01:42:00,072 --> 01:42:01,740
So they're making up for it.

1542
01:42:01,740 --> 01:42:03,408
I'm sure they have ulterior motives.

1543
01:42:03,408 --> 01:42:04,827
I can't imagine that there's a whole

1544
01:42:04,827 --> 01:42:06,870
niceties around what's going on.

1545
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:07,830
No, come on.

1546
01:42:07,871 --> 01:42:09,122
Um, yeah, it's going to be

1547
01:42:09,122 --> 01:42:10,082
integrated into WhatsApp.

1548
01:42:10,082 --> 01:42:11,083
So apparently you can play with those

1549
01:42:11,083 --> 01:42:13,460
messenger and Instagram, uh, directly as

1550
01:42:13,460 --> 01:42:14,127
well.

1551
01:42:14,127 --> 01:42:14,545
Okay.

1552
01:42:14,545 --> 01:42:16,421
Um, so can people, people can continue to

1553
01:42:16,421 --> 01:42:17,881
use the artificial intelligence to

1554
01:42:17,881 --> 01:42:19,216
enhance their daily lives and

1555
01:42:19,216 --> 01:42:20,008
the content they're creating.

1556
01:42:20,425 --> 01:42:21,385
Um, and sharing with

1557
01:42:21,385 --> 01:42:22,344
other people as well.

1558
01:42:22,636 --> 01:42:23,846
So that's an interesting one there.

1559
01:42:24,179 --> 01:42:24,596
Fantastic.

1560
01:42:25,180 --> 01:42:28,016
Um, cutting back alphabet, uh, reaffirm

1561
01:42:28,016 --> 01:42:31,603
$75 billion spending, um, despite the,

1562
01:42:31,603 --> 01:42:32,896
all the tariffs, home oil.

1563
01:42:32,896 --> 01:42:34,189
So they want to boost the

1564
01:42:34,189 --> 01:42:35,566
AI and data center capacity.

1565
01:42:35,566 --> 01:42:36,692
So just leading off

1566
01:42:36,692 --> 01:42:38,819
the Trump coal and stuff.

1567
01:42:38,819 --> 01:42:40,487
So we'll see what happens there.

1568
01:42:40,487 --> 01:42:42,489
Microsoft have their 50th anniversary.

1569
01:42:43,198 --> 01:42:45,158
Copilot event, not the 50th anniversary

1570
01:42:45,158 --> 01:42:48,704
of copilot, just their 50th anniversary.

1571
01:42:49,162 --> 01:42:52,165
And, um, yeah, so they announced a whole

1572
01:42:52,165 --> 01:42:53,584
heap of stuff with copilot.

1573
01:42:54,001 --> 01:42:55,460
Um, you might like it.

1574
01:42:55,460 --> 01:42:56,044
You might not.

1575
01:42:56,128 --> 01:42:58,046
Um, well, first checking out though, just

1576
01:42:58,046 --> 01:42:59,381
to see what was going on there.

1577
01:42:59,756 --> 01:43:02,551
Uh, open AI secures $300 billion

1578
01:43:02,551 --> 01:43:04,094
valuation after a $40

1579
01:43:04,094 --> 01:43:06,138
billion soft bank led funding

1580
01:43:06,221 --> 01:43:08,432
around, so hot, damn soft bank.

1581
01:43:08,432 --> 01:43:09,558
I mean, this is why the partners that

1582
01:43:09,558 --> 01:43:10,142
they're originally going

1583
01:43:10,142 --> 01:43:12,394
is with, uh, Stargate, wasn't it?

1584
01:43:12,436 --> 01:43:12,728
Yes.

1585
01:43:13,186 --> 01:43:13,437
Yeah.

1586
01:43:13,437 --> 01:43:14,438
So this is the start of the month.

1587
01:43:14,438 --> 01:43:15,898
I don't think we, we highlighted or maybe

1588
01:43:15,898 --> 01:43:16,732
we did last week, but

1589
01:43:16,732 --> 01:43:17,649
I just thought given

1590
01:43:17,774 --> 01:43:19,484
all the money being thrown around, it

1591
01:43:19,484 --> 01:43:20,110
might as well like,

1592
01:43:20,110 --> 01:43:21,653
um, raise that on them.

1593
01:43:21,862 --> 01:43:22,779
And yeah, that's pretty

1594
01:43:22,779 --> 01:43:23,822
much it from the news for me.

1595
01:43:23,822 --> 01:43:24,823
So what do you want to dive into?

1596
01:43:24,823 --> 01:43:27,242
Well, one last piece I guess we'll branch

1597
01:43:27,242 --> 01:43:29,995
us into a bigger discussion is the, and

1598
01:43:29,995 --> 01:43:32,664
this is a trend that we're seeing more

1599
01:43:32,664 --> 01:43:33,498
and more, and I've

1600
01:43:33,498 --> 01:43:34,249
been having conversations

1601
01:43:34,416 --> 01:43:36,919
with people, um, both agencies and

1602
01:43:36,919 --> 01:43:39,504
consultancies alike talking about the

1603
01:43:39,546 --> 01:43:40,923
impact of AI in the business.

1604
01:43:40,923 --> 01:43:42,466
And we've had discussions around its

1605
01:43:42,466 --> 01:43:44,176
impact on product and processes and

1606
01:43:44,217 --> 01:43:45,135
delivery and development.

1607
01:43:45,969 --> 01:43:47,179
Um, but what does it mean for

1608
01:43:47,179 --> 01:43:50,057
organizations and leaders alike?

1609
01:43:50,599 --> 01:43:50,682
Yeah.

1610
01:43:50,682 --> 01:43:54,102
Um, and Shopify CEO just said, uh, um,

1611
01:43:54,102 --> 01:43:56,229
you know, publicly that

1612
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:57,439
before he hires anyone

1613
01:43:57,481 --> 01:44:00,400
else, he wants it, wants them to prove in

1614
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,487
the organization that AI can't do the job

1615
01:44:03,612 --> 01:44:04,613
better than that particular

1616
01:44:04,613 --> 01:44:05,697
person that they're hiring.

1617
01:44:05,989 --> 01:44:07,199
So essentially making a move and saying,

1618
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:09,493
if, uh, I'll only hire people if, if AI

1619
01:44:09,576 --> 01:44:11,119
can't do the job is the

1620
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:12,204
under the underpinning thing.

1621
01:44:12,204 --> 01:44:12,579
Wow.

1622
01:44:12,913 --> 01:44:14,539
And it does make the question of like,

1623
01:44:14,539 --> 01:44:16,583
even for himself, like surely there are,

1624
01:44:16,917 --> 01:44:18,377
you know, surely the

1625
01:44:18,377 --> 01:44:19,878
people that AI can do his job.

1626
01:44:19,878 --> 01:44:23,090
There is a group that like basically the

1627
01:44:23,090 --> 01:44:24,675
CEO stepping down because she's

1628
01:44:24,675 --> 01:44:26,259
they're putting an AI in her place.

1629
01:44:26,551 --> 01:44:26,760
Exactly.

1630
01:44:26,927 --> 01:44:27,636
And they're selling that.

1631
01:44:27,970 --> 01:44:30,639
Hey, hey boss AI is this is a, um, I

1632
01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:31,515
think it's even backed

1633
01:44:31,515 --> 01:44:32,766
by open AI this tool.

1634
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:35,310
Um, uh, so I,

1635
01:44:35,310 --> 01:44:36,937
The result was better and faster than I

1636
01:44:36,937 --> 01:44:37,729
could ever deliver us

1637
01:44:37,729 --> 01:44:38,689
off her leading a team.

1638
01:44:39,272 --> 01:44:40,315
Let's welcome Astra.

1639
01:44:40,732 --> 01:44:40,983
Astra.

1640
01:44:40,983 --> 01:44:41,108
Yeah.

1641
01:44:41,108 --> 01:44:42,067
So I'll play the video here.

1642
01:44:42,609 --> 01:44:45,320
So this is a, this is Hey boss AI or an

1643
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,823
Astra is the AI tool counterpile.

1644
01:44:47,823 --> 01:44:49,992
So you can actually, um, play with, jump

1645
01:44:49,992 --> 01:44:50,826
in and play with it.

1646
01:44:50,826 --> 01:44:51,868
Now they've got a whole bunch of people

1647
01:44:51,868 --> 01:44:53,245
who are signing up for quite rapidly.

1648
01:44:53,245 --> 01:44:55,205
They're saying, um, a claim and offer of

1649
01:44:55,205 --> 01:44:55,914
the first 10,000

1650
01:44:55,914 --> 01:44:56,873
people get to play with it.

1651
01:44:57,457 --> 01:44:58,667
Uh, I wonder if I can use it.

1652
01:44:58,667 --> 01:44:59,042
Give me a sec.

1653
01:44:59,209 --> 01:45:00,377
Cause I did do this already.

1654
01:45:00,377 --> 01:45:01,294
Oh, try it.

1655
01:45:01,545 --> 01:45:02,546
Let me see if I can log in.

1656
01:45:04,006 --> 01:45:05,215
Chris is logging in.

1657
01:45:05,382 --> 01:45:08,719
Logging the bones, the cats, the bones.

1658
01:45:08,969 --> 01:45:10,053
Um, actually I'll need

1659
01:45:10,053 --> 01:45:10,929
a new browser for this.

1660
01:45:12,931 --> 01:45:14,141
It's the dogs and the

1661
01:45:14,141 --> 01:45:16,435
cats and the AI bosses.

1662
01:45:17,227 --> 01:45:17,894
So funny.

1663
01:45:19,521 --> 01:45:19,730
Yeah.

1664
01:45:19,855 --> 01:45:21,565
So, I mean, are we recording this part?

1665
01:45:21,857 --> 01:45:22,524
No, no, no, no, no.

1666
01:45:22,524 --> 01:45:24,317
We're gonna, we're just gonna.

1667
01:45:24,568 --> 01:45:25,986
I said, are we recording this part?

1668
01:45:27,654 --> 01:45:28,071
This part.

1669
01:45:30,032 --> 01:45:30,323
Hey boss.

1670
01:45:30,699 --> 01:45:31,450
Why, why did I do that?

1671
01:45:32,826 --> 01:45:33,618
It's called Hey boss.

1672
01:45:33,994 --> 01:45:34,411
Oh my God.

1673
01:45:39,249 --> 01:45:39,458
Oh.

1674
01:45:42,085 --> 01:45:42,669
All right.

1675
01:45:47,424 --> 01:45:48,341
Um, okay.

1676
01:45:48,341 --> 01:45:48,675
So yeah.

1677
01:45:48,675 --> 01:45:50,469
So Hey boss, give me, give me something

1678
01:45:50,469 --> 01:45:51,511
that you think it might want to do.

1679
01:45:51,511 --> 01:45:52,679
So let's build a website.

1680
01:45:52,679 --> 01:45:53,638
I need to fire Chris.

1681
01:45:54,347 --> 01:45:56,475
You want to build a platform on HR.

1682
01:45:56,850 --> 01:45:58,060
That fires my employees.

1683
01:45:58,727 --> 01:46:04,858
Uh, I want an HR platform that can assist

1684
01:46:04,858 --> 01:46:08,862
by firing Chris, firing my staff.

1685
01:46:09,488 --> 01:46:09,946
Named Chris.

1686
01:46:10,781 --> 01:46:12,783
And call it Chris.

1687
01:46:13,533 --> 01:46:14,409
No, start building.

1688
01:46:14,409 --> 01:46:15,160
Let's see what happens.

1689
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:15,452
Okay.

1690
01:46:15,452 --> 01:46:15,911
Let's see.

1691
01:46:16,453 --> 01:46:18,330
I mean, this is very bolt like.

1692
01:46:18,330 --> 01:46:18,538
Okay.

1693
01:46:18,997 --> 01:46:20,415
Officially, if you can provide the

1694
01:46:20,415 --> 01:46:22,459
platform key features, logos, and any

1695
01:46:22,501 --> 01:46:25,337
preferred colors, uh, just go, you make

1696
01:46:25,337 --> 01:46:27,297
it up, keep it simple

1697
01:46:27,297 --> 01:46:30,133
with blue and lights.

1698
01:46:31,009 --> 01:46:31,635
Start building.

1699
01:46:31,635 --> 01:46:33,345
Anyone's seen that movie up in the air.

1700
01:46:33,637 --> 01:46:34,429
It's like that.

1701
01:46:34,429 --> 01:46:36,223
They had people flying around to do these

1702
01:46:36,223 --> 01:46:38,850
like firings and stuff, but, uh,

1703
01:46:38,892 --> 01:46:39,768
companies wouldn't want to

1704
01:46:39,768 --> 01:46:40,811
do so they'd outsource it.

1705
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,522
And then they were moving to telly

1706
01:46:43,522 --> 01:46:45,023
versions of it so that

1707
01:46:45,023 --> 01:46:46,191
they didn't have to fly.

1708
01:46:46,191 --> 01:46:47,734
So George Clooney, the character in that

1709
01:46:47,734 --> 01:46:50,237
was losing all his millions of frequent

1710
01:46:50,278 --> 01:46:52,155
flyer points just continuously being on

1711
01:46:52,155 --> 01:46:53,281
the road, but what have we got here?

1712
01:46:53,281 --> 01:46:54,699
So is it, they say they can do it in nine

1713
01:46:54,699 --> 01:46:55,700
minutes so we can see the time of

1714
01:46:55,700 --> 01:46:57,035
their, so let's continue discussion and

1715
01:46:57,035 --> 01:46:59,663
let's look back to see what, yeah.

1716
01:46:59,663 --> 01:47:01,832
So there's a full conversation going with

1717
01:47:01,832 --> 01:47:05,293
Vega and even and max data Nova.

1718
01:47:05,585 --> 01:47:07,170
Uh, you go quantum mix, but

1719
01:47:07,170 --> 01:47:08,547
see, it's the question of like,

1720
01:47:08,713 --> 01:47:12,926
what as AI becomes more advanced and we

1721
01:47:12,926 --> 01:47:15,137
think about the processes that people go

1722
01:47:15,137 --> 01:47:16,888
with, even just to start new businesses.

1723
01:47:16,888 --> 01:47:17,597
Like a lot of this stuff

1724
01:47:17,597 --> 01:47:18,640
is just processes, right?

1725
01:47:19,015 --> 01:47:20,517
You, you get, think about

1726
01:47:20,517 --> 01:47:21,977
your idea, you validate it.

1727
01:47:21,977 --> 01:47:24,479
You go into a stage of trying to maybe

1728
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,148
raise capital, build your marketing

1729
01:47:26,231 --> 01:47:28,150
plans, execute some of those marketing

1730
01:47:28,150 --> 01:47:29,818
plans, get some early stage people on

1731
01:47:29,818 --> 01:47:30,485
board to add the

1732
01:47:30,485 --> 01:47:31,862
platform, start building it.

1733
01:47:32,195 --> 01:47:34,114
These are all processes and stages that

1734
01:47:34,114 --> 01:47:36,408
like theoretically can be optimized

1735
01:47:36,783 --> 01:47:39,828
based on, based on, you know, what the

1736
01:47:39,828 --> 01:47:40,954
business is and what it needs to do.

1737
01:47:41,329 --> 01:47:44,249
So at what point will we reach where a

1738
01:47:44,249 --> 01:47:45,667
human is no longer to

1739
01:47:46,084 --> 01:47:47,169
deliver those processes?

1740
01:47:47,169 --> 01:47:47,794
And I'll tell you why.

1741
01:47:48,253 --> 01:47:48,587
Please.

1742
01:47:48,587 --> 01:47:49,254
This is, this is.

1743
01:47:49,462 --> 01:47:50,672
So first of all, with this, what you're

1744
01:47:50,672 --> 01:47:52,174
seeing on screen here, this very much

1745
01:47:52,174 --> 01:47:54,509
it's like Klein, but in a, in a better

1746
01:47:54,509 --> 01:47:55,385
experience, it's like

1747
01:47:55,385 --> 01:47:56,428
Manus is like Klein.

1748
01:47:56,428 --> 01:47:58,847
It's like Jen spark this other deep

1749
01:47:58,847 --> 01:48:00,849
research kind of thing where it's not

1750
01:48:00,849 --> 01:48:03,810
just back and forth, but you leave it,

1751
01:48:03,810 --> 01:48:05,187
you set it at task and it goes off and

1752
01:48:05,187 --> 01:48:05,979
it completes the task.

1753
01:48:05,979 --> 01:48:08,231
It's really like a synthetic personas to

1754
01:48:08,231 --> 01:48:09,232
essentially develop this.

1755
01:48:09,232 --> 01:48:09,608
Exactly.

1756
01:48:09,608 --> 01:48:12,027
It's, it's creating these AI is based

1757
01:48:12,027 --> 01:48:13,778
around its own rules and experiences that

1758
01:48:13,778 --> 01:48:15,614
is picked up in the world to then build

1759
01:48:15,614 --> 01:48:17,407
the sort of fake discussions and

1760
01:48:17,407 --> 01:48:19,201
validating and, and itself in real time.

1761
01:48:19,367 --> 01:48:20,035
Yeah, exactly.

1762
01:48:20,035 --> 01:48:22,579
And, and I'll get back to why and it's a,

1763
01:48:22,579 --> 01:48:24,039
it's a much better way of presenting it

1764
01:48:24,372 --> 01:48:25,916
rather than the code thing that you've

1765
01:48:25,916 --> 01:48:27,709
seen in previous episodes where we were

1766
01:48:27,709 --> 01:48:29,127
using Klein or using Manus.

1767
01:48:29,461 --> 01:48:31,546
Now, what it will say with all of this

1768
01:48:31,546 --> 01:48:33,590
with, and it's to do with generative AI,

1769
01:48:33,757 --> 01:48:37,302
not overall AI, which is very well

1770
01:48:37,302 --> 01:48:39,763
trusted and being tweaked and tuned and

1771
01:48:39,846 --> 01:48:42,807
deterministic as in we know, like a

1772
01:48:42,807 --> 01:48:45,185
database, if we're supposed to get a

1773
01:48:45,185 --> 01:48:47,354
certain result, if I say, find me all the

1774
01:48:47,354 --> 01:48:49,564
crisis in the database, a deterministic

1775
01:48:49,689 --> 01:48:51,149
result, like you're using the SQL or

1776
01:48:51,149 --> 01:48:53,568
Python, it will count if it's coded

1777
01:48:53,652 --> 01:48:55,612
correctly and give you all the crisis in

1778
01:48:55,612 --> 01:48:57,322
the result in the database.

1779
01:48:57,572 --> 01:48:58,782
Gen AI doesn't do that.

1780
01:48:58,990 --> 01:49:00,992
First of all, if you're using rag, it's

1781
01:49:00,992 --> 01:49:01,576
not going to do that.

1782
01:49:01,618 --> 01:49:03,870
It's just going to find the top N chunks,

1783
01:49:03,870 --> 01:49:04,871
like top five chunks.

1784
01:49:04,871 --> 01:49:06,081
And maybe it needed to look

1785
01:49:06,081 --> 01:49:07,249
at seven or eight chunks that

1786
01:49:07,249 --> 01:49:08,500
actually count all the crisis.

1787
01:49:08,500 --> 01:49:10,418
So there's already hit and miss and stuff

1788
01:49:10,418 --> 01:49:11,211
there using the right

1789
01:49:11,211 --> 01:49:12,003
kind of tool for it.

1790
01:49:12,295 --> 01:49:14,089
But when it comes to generative AI, I

1791
01:49:14,089 --> 01:49:15,215
think that the biggest issue is going to

1792
01:49:15,215 --> 01:49:17,300
be that, um, and in terms of just letting

1793
01:49:17,300 --> 01:49:19,678
them loosen on their own, how do we know

1794
01:49:19,886 --> 01:49:22,681
you, even if it's like 99.9% like

1795
01:49:22,681 --> 01:49:23,890
accurate, and maybe

1796
01:49:23,890 --> 01:49:24,849
that's more than humans.

1797
01:49:24,849 --> 01:49:26,434
That's how we will like switch over, but

1798
01:49:26,434 --> 01:49:29,896
that 0.0001% where it's not could be

1799
01:49:30,188 --> 01:49:31,982
very, uh, bad, for example.

1800
01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:34,734
Now, a situation where you have these

1801
01:49:34,734 --> 01:49:36,695
guys doing this, but then they're

1802
01:49:36,778 --> 01:49:37,445
working as a

1803
01:49:37,445 --> 01:49:39,823
coworker, I think works well.

1804
01:49:39,948 --> 01:49:40,198
Right.

1805
01:49:40,198 --> 01:49:42,701
And I'll say, because the fact that, um,

1806
01:49:42,701 --> 01:49:43,785
they can work really fast.

1807
01:49:43,785 --> 01:49:44,744
They don't get tired.

1808
01:49:44,744 --> 01:49:45,996
They don't, um, sleep

1809
01:49:45,996 --> 01:49:46,997
in and stuff like that.

1810
01:49:46,997 --> 01:49:49,624
If, if it's created that way, but them

1811
01:49:49,624 --> 01:49:51,209
showing you the work that they've done

1812
01:49:51,376 --> 01:49:52,919
either at a junior level, because they're

1813
01:49:52,919 --> 01:49:54,170
just doing simple stuff or at a senior

1814
01:49:54,254 --> 01:49:56,256
level, like, you know, the CEO probably

1815
01:49:56,256 --> 01:49:58,049
wouldn't be doing and building the HR

1816
01:49:58,383 --> 01:50:00,343
app, for example, or maybe it's acting as

1817
01:50:00,343 --> 01:50:01,928
the persona of the CEO and telling

1818
01:50:01,928 --> 01:50:03,221
the others what to do, or maybe it's a

1819
01:50:03,221 --> 01:50:04,597
small business, whatever it is.

1820
01:50:05,140 --> 01:50:07,350
I think that there are ways to have these

1821
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:08,435
apps that are the

1822
01:50:08,435 --> 01:50:09,686
coworkers at each level,

1823
01:50:09,894 --> 01:50:12,939
because the very fact that you, um, why

1824
01:50:12,939 --> 01:50:14,441
do we say that AI is good or bad?

1825
01:50:14,649 --> 01:50:15,859
It depends on us, the

1826
01:50:15,859 --> 01:50:17,110
human judging the output.

1827
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:18,778
And you might see something and you see

1828
01:50:18,778 --> 01:50:19,821
the website and you're like, wow, that

1829
01:50:19,821 --> 01:50:21,323
shit, that's really badly designed.

1830
01:50:21,698 --> 01:50:23,366
I might see it in like, I'm not into

1831
01:50:23,366 --> 01:50:24,909
design, but it's created the website.

1832
01:50:24,909 --> 01:50:25,994
I'm like, Oh, it's okay.

1833
01:50:26,411 --> 01:50:27,996
Now the AI has done the same thing on

1834
01:50:27,996 --> 01:50:29,998
both sides, but it's up to the human to

1835
01:50:29,998 --> 01:50:30,790
go whether or not

1836
01:50:30,790 --> 01:50:32,167
it's fulfilled the task.

1837
01:50:32,167 --> 01:50:33,501
And whether it's for security or just

1838
01:50:33,501 --> 01:50:35,378
design and creativity, or just like

1839
01:50:35,420 --> 01:50:38,214
generating texts, it is always up to the

1840
01:50:38,214 --> 01:50:39,799
human as to whether or not it's the

1841
01:50:39,799 --> 01:50:40,508
right kind of thing.

1842
01:50:40,508 --> 01:50:42,469
Now, I think that's going to be the thing

1843
01:50:42,469 --> 01:50:44,679
that will always include humans as part

1844
01:50:44,679 --> 01:50:47,891
of it, when it comes to like, if you, uh,

1845
01:50:47,891 --> 01:50:49,642
batch multiple things of these together,

1846
01:50:49,642 --> 01:50:51,603
they could create better outcomes, but

1847
01:50:51,603 --> 01:50:52,812
there's always going to be that judgment.

1848
01:50:53,646 --> 01:50:55,607
So I think we'll, um, for the

1849
01:50:55,607 --> 01:50:57,400
foreseeable future need humans.

1850
01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:58,902
I know that we're going to get to like

1851
01:50:58,902 --> 01:51:01,237
some sort of AGI moment, but I just

1852
01:51:01,237 --> 01:51:03,073
think that we'll evolve what it is that

1853
01:51:03,073 --> 01:51:05,742
we do as work by that stage.

1854
01:51:05,742 --> 01:51:06,910
So it's just like, yeah, that

1855
01:51:06,910 --> 01:51:08,787
still needs humans involved.

1856
01:51:09,162 --> 01:51:09,704
It's an interesting thing.

1857
01:51:09,704 --> 01:51:10,663
Like we, I mean, we talked about this

1858
01:51:10,663 --> 01:51:12,248
before and I saw a post on a LinkedIn

1859
01:51:12,457 --> 01:51:14,000
recently as well, where someone was

1860
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,419
talking about how, um, you know, that

1861
01:51:16,419 --> 01:51:18,880
when computers launched, uh, into the

1862
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,799
monkey, everyone was so worried around

1863
01:51:20,882 --> 01:51:22,842
how it was removing jobs of people.

1864
01:51:23,093 --> 01:51:24,803
Like we were automating these processes

1865
01:51:24,803 --> 01:51:26,888
will, you know, get rid of an entire

1866
01:51:27,180 --> 01:51:28,598
section of people who are manually

1867
01:51:28,598 --> 01:51:29,474
building these tasks.

1868
01:51:29,474 --> 01:51:30,642
Cause then actually in the flip side,

1869
01:51:30,642 --> 01:51:31,142
what it ended up

1870
01:51:31,142 --> 01:51:32,727
doing is creating a whole

1871
01:51:32,727 --> 01:51:35,188
bunch of new jobs in the IT space and

1872
01:51:35,188 --> 01:51:36,606
people who specialized in digital and

1873
01:51:36,606 --> 01:51:38,233
technology to help with the

1874
01:51:38,233 --> 01:51:39,067
implementation and

1875
01:51:39,067 --> 01:51:40,360
infrastructure that surrounded

1876
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,654
these IT requirements for organizations.

1877
01:51:43,113 --> 01:51:44,531
You know, the businesses eventually, once

1878
01:51:44,531 --> 01:51:46,491
we moved online, then they were worried

1879
01:51:46,574 --> 01:51:48,118
that, you know, e-commerce platforms were

1880
01:51:48,118 --> 01:51:49,494
going to remove the jobs of sales people.

1881
01:51:49,536 --> 01:51:51,162
Oh, that's a, but then suddenly we had

1882
01:51:51,162 --> 01:51:52,997
jobs for people building these platforms

1883
01:51:52,997 --> 01:51:53,748
and integrating and

1884
01:51:53,748 --> 01:51:54,916
managing these platforms.

1885
01:51:55,542 --> 01:51:57,210
Um, and that evolution will continue to

1886
01:51:57,210 --> 01:52:00,004
come about, I think even into, um, and

1887
01:52:00,004 --> 01:52:01,339
with this, you know, probably the most

1888
01:52:01,339 --> 01:52:03,633
revolutionary thing that has happened

1889
01:52:03,633 --> 01:52:08,346
over the last 20 years or so, um, since

1890
01:52:08,346 --> 01:52:09,556
the, since the dawn of the internet,

1891
01:52:09,556 --> 01:52:13,852
I would say, um, and, uh, and new jobs

1892
01:52:13,852 --> 01:52:16,980
and new, new, new capabilities within

1893
01:52:17,230 --> 01:52:18,815
what we deliver will, will arise.

1894
01:52:19,107 --> 01:52:20,400
What they are specifically at.

1895
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:20,900
We don't know.

1896
01:52:20,900 --> 01:52:22,360
Like we've got consultative services now

1897
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:23,736
around AI, people who are specialized

1898
01:52:23,736 --> 01:52:25,238
in development of AI, which did jobs

1899
01:52:25,238 --> 01:52:26,072
didn't exist before.

1900
01:52:26,531 --> 01:52:29,576
We've got, um, people who are now doing

1901
01:52:29,576 --> 01:52:31,744
oversight and management of the AI tools.

1902
01:52:31,995 --> 01:52:32,328
Yeah.

1903
01:52:32,328 --> 01:52:33,997
That's that's, there's a new role that's

1904
01:52:33,997 --> 01:52:35,665
like being created there, like this

1905
01:52:35,707 --> 01:52:37,959
oversight kind of role, because, um,

1906
01:52:38,501 --> 01:52:39,335
well, the way that, and

1907
01:52:39,335 --> 01:52:40,128
you think about it with

1908
01:52:40,128 --> 01:52:41,921
vibe coding, vibe coding, and we said it

1909
01:52:41,921 --> 01:52:43,214
before works best when you actually

1910
01:52:43,214 --> 01:52:45,675
know what you're doing, um, the AI.

1911
01:52:46,009 --> 01:52:47,802
Anyone can create like a prototype with

1912
01:52:47,802 --> 01:52:49,637
something like this, but you, if you

1913
01:52:49,637 --> 01:52:50,889
don't know about security and what to

1914
01:52:50,889 --> 01:52:52,557
work out for, um, you

1915
01:52:52,557 --> 01:52:53,892
won't know how to protect.

1916
01:52:54,184 --> 01:52:56,311
So you do need to have these people that

1917
01:52:56,311 --> 01:52:58,271
do have that understanding and they'll

1918
01:52:58,271 --> 01:53:00,732
be able to do stuff quicker because we're

1919
01:53:00,732 --> 01:53:02,442
using these tools, tools to enable

1920
01:53:02,442 --> 01:53:03,610
us to get to another place.

1921
01:53:04,277 --> 01:53:06,321
And on the point, like I'm trying to find

1922
01:53:06,321 --> 01:53:07,739
the video, I don't mind if I find it, but

1923
01:53:07,739 --> 01:53:08,948
there was a video where people were

1924
01:53:08,948 --> 01:53:11,201
interviewed about the computer way back

1925
01:53:11,201 --> 01:53:12,494
in like, it was like New York in like

1926
01:53:12,494 --> 01:53:13,703
1977 and what they

1927
01:53:13,703 --> 01:53:15,205
thought about, um, the,

1928
01:53:15,288 --> 01:53:16,581
the information society

1929
01:53:16,581 --> 01:53:18,875
and really interesting stuff.

1930
01:53:19,125 --> 01:53:20,293
Because like one of the people said that,

1931
01:53:20,293 --> 01:53:23,046
look, um, you know, things, uh, if a job

1932
01:53:23,046 --> 01:53:24,255
is meant to be automated,

1933
01:53:24,255 --> 01:53:26,049
it will just be automated.

1934
01:53:26,466 --> 01:53:28,760
You know, if it's really meant to be, um,

1935
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,553
taken away, then, then it should be.

1936
01:53:30,845 --> 01:53:30,970
Yep.

1937
01:53:30,970 --> 01:53:31,513
That kind of thing.

1938
01:53:31,513 --> 01:53:32,764
So we had that back then.

1939
01:53:33,056 --> 01:53:34,599
And, and this is happening right now.

1940
01:53:34,599 --> 01:53:35,517
It's happening again.

1941
01:53:35,517 --> 01:53:37,435
I mean, what, what it's also going to

1942
01:53:37,435 --> 01:53:39,354
bring to light is the

1943
01:53:39,354 --> 01:53:40,647
skill sets of people

1944
01:53:40,939 --> 01:53:43,733
who, uh, kind of just like not doing much

1945
01:53:43,733 --> 01:53:45,151
and sweeping things under the table.

1946
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,278
As you mean now the expectations around

1947
01:53:47,278 --> 01:53:49,697
quality are, uh, going to significantly

1948
01:53:50,031 --> 01:53:53,910
rise up, um, which means our ability to

1949
01:53:53,910 --> 01:53:55,787
deliver higher value

1950
01:53:55,787 --> 01:53:56,788
is going to increase,

1951
01:53:56,788 --> 01:53:58,540
but the effort to deliver that higher

1952
01:53:58,540 --> 01:54:00,917
value is also going to increase as, you

1953
01:54:00,917 --> 01:54:02,627
know, we can't rely particularly at the

1954
01:54:02,627 --> 01:54:04,337
moment, maybe this will change with AGI.

1955
01:54:04,337 --> 01:54:05,922
We can't rely on AI to get you a hundred

1956
01:54:05,922 --> 01:54:07,215
percent of the way you're going to have

1957
01:54:07,257 --> 01:54:09,509
to put in huge amounts of effort.

1958
01:54:09,717 --> 01:54:12,220
Now that 10% of time we used to spend on

1959
01:54:12,220 --> 01:54:14,389
things is now going to become most of the

1960
01:54:14,389 --> 01:54:16,391
time that we spend on optimizing and

1961
01:54:16,391 --> 01:54:18,643
pushing things into market, which is the

1962
01:54:18,643 --> 01:54:19,894
higher value on that

1963
01:54:19,894 --> 01:54:21,062
delivery end of things.

1964
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,356
So that expectation of quality in the

1965
01:54:23,356 --> 01:54:25,316
market is going to rise up, but we get to

1966
01:54:25,316 --> 01:54:27,527
spend more time on delivering that

1967
01:54:27,527 --> 01:54:28,319
quality than what we

1968
01:54:28,319 --> 01:54:29,445
did before, because AI

1969
01:54:29,445 --> 01:54:30,655
gets us 90% of the way.

1970
01:54:31,447 --> 01:54:33,741
Um, but for, I guess, uh, so from a CEO

1971
01:54:33,741 --> 01:54:35,743
perspective, I think what we're saying

1972
01:54:35,827 --> 01:54:40,748
is there is, um, while their job role

1973
01:54:40,748 --> 01:54:43,084
might not necessarily dissipate what

1974
01:54:43,084 --> 01:54:45,086
they're doing and how they're doing it is

1975
01:54:45,086 --> 01:54:48,256
going to rapidly change with the, you

1976
01:54:48,256 --> 01:54:49,757
know, with the rise of maybe not

1977
01:54:49,757 --> 01:54:51,259
specifically tools like this one, I think

1978
01:54:51,259 --> 01:54:51,718
it's a bit of an

1979
01:54:51,718 --> 01:54:53,303
overstatement on the, the Hey Boss.

1980
01:54:53,886 --> 01:54:55,847
Um, that said, I haven't put CEO.

1981
01:54:56,848 --> 01:54:58,141
Proper CEO tags into it

1982
01:54:58,141 --> 01:54:59,058
to see what it produces.

1983
01:54:59,517 --> 01:55:00,059
That'd be interesting

1984
01:55:00,059 --> 01:55:00,977
to see if you do that.

1985
01:55:01,227 --> 01:55:01,436
Yes.

1986
01:55:01,686 --> 01:55:02,103
Like next time.

1987
01:55:02,186 --> 01:55:03,771
Anywho, can you run a, run a presentation

1988
01:55:03,771 --> 01:55:06,649
for me around the latest statistics in my

1989
01:55:06,649 --> 01:55:07,317
business and how we're

1990
01:55:07,317 --> 01:55:08,610
performing to run this board member?

1991
01:55:09,027 --> 01:55:10,194
Yeah, just run the puzzle.

1992
01:55:10,194 --> 01:55:11,529
Well, we've got tools that just put, just

1993
01:55:11,529 --> 01:55:12,739
drop that into the network.

1994
01:55:13,323 --> 01:55:13,531
Exactly.

1995
01:55:13,865 --> 01:55:15,116
Um, and where is up to at the moment?

1996
01:55:15,116 --> 01:55:17,035
So we've got 20 seconds left on this one.

1997
01:55:17,035 --> 01:55:19,829
And, uh, so they, uh, just in the last

1998
01:55:19,829 --> 01:55:20,913
couple of minutes, they've been talking

1999
01:55:20,997 --> 01:55:22,957
around copy, they've been agreeing on

2000
01:55:22,957 --> 01:55:25,710
logos, um, excellent work around

2001
01:55:25,752 --> 01:55:26,669
finalizing messages.

2002
01:55:26,669 --> 01:55:28,296
They're even like, they're even making

2003
01:55:28,296 --> 01:55:30,006
happy statements to each other around,

2004
01:55:30,506 --> 01:55:32,133
um, you know, you've done a great job.

2005
01:55:32,133 --> 01:55:33,009
I'm really proud of you.

2006
01:55:33,009 --> 01:55:33,760
I'm sure the mobile

2007
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,053
optimization is on point.

2008
01:55:35,470 --> 01:55:35,720
Yeah.

2009
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:37,138
So Jack find is quite hilarious.

2010
01:55:37,138 --> 01:55:37,472
So here we go.

2011
01:55:37,472 --> 01:55:38,806
The final security assessments are

2012
01:55:38,806 --> 01:55:40,224
providing all they've

2013
01:55:40,224 --> 01:55:41,392
added an extra minute.

2014
01:55:42,060 --> 01:55:42,852
That's interesting.

2015
01:55:43,102 --> 01:55:44,062
I'm setting up the final checks.

2016
01:55:44,062 --> 01:55:44,437
Okay.

2017
01:55:44,437 --> 01:55:45,313
So it was gone from nine

2018
01:55:45,313 --> 01:55:46,522
minutes now to 10 minutes.

2019
01:55:46,939 --> 01:55:47,106
Sorry.

2020
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,525
Um, it says that is going to cost a

2021
01:55:49,525 --> 01:55:51,194
little, it's, we've got a budget over.

2022
01:55:51,194 --> 01:55:51,361
Yeah.

2023
01:55:51,694 --> 01:55:52,737
So the minutes here we go.

2024
01:55:52,737 --> 01:55:53,571
It does say, Hey, sorry,

2025
01:55:53,571 --> 01:55:54,530
lots of people are using it.

2026
01:55:54,530 --> 01:55:55,490
My takeover nine minutes.

2027
01:55:55,490 --> 01:55:56,783
I'll ping and email you when it's done.

2028
01:55:56,783 --> 01:55:57,784
So maybe we'll loop

2029
01:55:57,784 --> 01:55:59,243
back in, in 40 seconds.

2030
01:55:59,661 --> 01:56:00,078
Yeah.

2031
01:56:00,078 --> 01:56:01,913
Let's just speed this up.

2032
01:56:01,913 --> 01:56:01,996
Yeah.

2033
01:56:01,996 --> 01:56:03,456
Let's be, I'll just cut.

2034
01:56:04,415 --> 01:56:10,880
I really want to speed that

2035
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:11,839
up now in the actual thing.

2036
01:56:13,883 --> 01:56:15,009
Do a slow motion punch.

2037
01:56:32,777 --> 01:56:33,444
We're getting out of

2038
01:56:33,444 --> 01:56:35,071
three seconds, two seconds.

2039
01:56:35,279 --> 01:56:36,364
One is probably going to go up again.

2040
01:56:36,364 --> 01:56:37,490
Oh, it's gone up another minute.

2041
01:56:38,408 --> 01:56:41,244
Uh, we'll come back to it.

2042
01:56:41,244 --> 01:56:41,828
We'll come back to it.

2043
01:56:41,828 --> 01:56:42,704
We'll come back to it folks.

2044
01:56:42,704 --> 01:56:46,374
But enjoy, um, that, uh, rendition of a

2045
01:56:46,374 --> 01:56:47,291
Midsummer Night's Dream.

2046
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:51,671
Chris, we'll come back to it.

2047
01:56:51,671 --> 01:56:52,338
You can enjoy the

2048
01:56:52,338 --> 01:56:53,548
dinosaurs in the meantime.

2049
01:56:54,298 --> 01:56:56,092
Um, but yeah, anything

2050
01:56:56,092 --> 01:56:57,885
else you wanted to cover off?

2051
01:56:57,885 --> 01:56:58,344
That was the main thing.

2052
01:56:58,970 --> 01:57:00,430
Existentialism around what's going to

2053
01:57:00,430 --> 01:57:02,140
happen with the job, with our jobs and

2054
01:57:02,140 --> 01:57:04,058
roles and I guess the jobs and roles that

2055
01:57:04,058 --> 01:57:05,893
I don't usually involve myself in.

2056
01:57:05,893 --> 01:57:06,060
I'm not.

2057
01:57:06,060 --> 01:57:07,061
We just said new jobs.

2058
01:57:07,061 --> 01:57:08,271
I think we've been inspired

2059
01:57:08,271 --> 01:57:09,939
to as to what we're, I agree.

2060
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:10,648
Yeah.

2061
01:57:10,648 --> 01:57:14,193
The jungle dancing and filmography and

2062
01:57:14,193 --> 01:57:15,403
slow motion punching.

2063
01:57:15,403 --> 01:57:15,862
There's a,

2064
01:57:15,987 --> 01:57:16,320
exactly.

2065
01:57:17,196 --> 01:57:17,447
All right.

2066
01:57:17,655 --> 01:57:19,699
So, um, the state, watch the credits and

2067
01:57:19,699 --> 01:57:21,659
you'll see the, the update of like where

2068
01:57:21,784 --> 01:57:23,494
this, this other one's up to because it's

2069
01:57:23,494 --> 01:57:24,579
still, as you can

2070
01:57:24,579 --> 01:57:25,580
see, it's got 12 seconds,

2071
01:57:25,580 --> 01:57:26,330
but it's probably going to,

2072
01:57:26,330 --> 01:57:27,081
but it's probably going to add in.

2073
01:57:27,123 --> 01:57:28,291
I reckon it's got a high volume of people

2074
01:57:28,291 --> 01:57:29,041
who are jumping on it.

2075
01:57:29,041 --> 01:57:29,751
It says it's only got

2076
01:57:29,751 --> 01:57:31,252
5,000 ish signed up.

2077
01:57:31,252 --> 01:57:32,587
So maybe they got some server problems.

2078
01:57:32,587 --> 01:57:34,380
What you'll see is right at the end

2079
01:57:34,380 --> 01:57:35,256
credits and stuff to

2080
01:57:35,256 --> 01:57:36,382
stick around just like

2081
01:57:36,382 --> 01:57:37,175
the previews for the

2082
01:57:37,175 --> 01:57:38,050
next month of the movie.

2083
01:57:38,885 --> 01:57:40,219
Team AI just built your idea.

2084
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:41,387
Hey, okay.

2085
01:57:41,387 --> 01:57:41,763
Well, maybe you're not

2086
01:57:41,763 --> 01:57:42,513
going to see right now.

2087
01:57:42,513 --> 01:57:42,889
I can have that

2088
01:57:42,889 --> 01:57:44,682
experience with your fireworks.

2089
01:57:45,725 --> 01:57:47,643
We've got Astra Prime, like

2090
01:57:47,643 --> 01:57:49,228
facing me going, Hey boss.

2091
01:57:50,229 --> 01:57:51,439
All right, let's go view now.

2092
01:57:52,732 --> 01:57:54,442
Streamline your boarding processes.

2093
01:57:54,734 --> 01:57:55,902
Simplified employee

2094
01:57:55,902 --> 01:57:57,278
termination management.

2095
01:57:57,278 --> 01:57:57,904
That's not bad.

2096
01:57:58,488 --> 01:57:58,821
Okay.

2097
01:57:58,821 --> 01:57:59,280
What's that?

2098
01:57:59,280 --> 01:57:59,739
So learn more.

2099
01:58:01,157 --> 01:58:01,282
Okay.

2100
01:58:01,657 --> 01:58:02,241
No, learn more.

2101
01:58:02,241 --> 01:58:02,825
No, learn more.

2102
01:58:02,825 --> 01:58:03,534
No, nothing here.

2103
01:58:03,534 --> 01:58:04,368
They never do that.

2104
01:58:04,368 --> 01:58:05,995
They all have like a limited things.

2105
01:58:05,995 --> 01:58:06,913
Just context windows.

2106
01:58:07,079 --> 01:58:08,664
So boarding process is interesting.

2107
01:58:08,956 --> 01:58:10,291
It was even, it's put an image.

2108
01:58:10,291 --> 01:58:10,958
Oh, it's a video.

2109
01:58:11,417 --> 01:58:11,751
What?

2110
01:58:12,251 --> 01:58:16,005
What's it's implemented a video with, um,

2111
01:58:16,005 --> 01:58:16,839
does it have a footage?

2112
01:58:17,089 --> 01:58:18,299
Does it have some audio?

2113
01:58:18,549 --> 01:58:20,259
That's the, I think I've

2114
01:58:20,259 --> 01:58:21,260
muted myself right now.

2115
01:58:21,636 --> 01:58:21,886
Yeah.

2116
01:58:22,094 --> 01:58:23,763
I do wonder if there's audio.

2117
01:58:25,723 --> 01:58:27,725
I don't hear anything.

2118
01:58:27,725 --> 01:58:29,060
I don't think there's any, okay.

2119
01:58:29,060 --> 01:58:29,769
Maybe no audio.

2120
01:58:29,769 --> 01:58:30,228
That's okay.

2121
01:58:30,228 --> 01:58:31,395
You can add that kind of stuff.

2122
01:58:31,395 --> 01:58:32,104
I'm sure there's probably a

2123
01:58:32,104 --> 01:58:33,356
link to where you can edit.

2124
01:58:33,356 --> 01:58:34,565
That might just be a holding.

2125
01:58:34,565 --> 01:58:35,399
Maybe it's like put a video.

2126
01:58:35,566 --> 01:58:35,775
Yeah.

2127
01:58:35,900 --> 01:58:37,276
Yeah, it could be, but still pretty

2128
01:58:37,276 --> 01:58:39,195
interesting that they've got a diagram.

2129
01:58:39,487 --> 01:58:41,280
The interactive decision and documenting

2130
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:42,281
meeting, communication,

2131
01:58:42,281 --> 01:58:44,116
employee off boarding, follow up closure,

2132
01:58:44,659 --> 01:58:45,785
download process guide.

2133
01:58:46,077 --> 01:58:47,411
So inside a PDF there.

2134
01:58:47,411 --> 01:58:49,038
So I reckon what you'd be able to do is

2135
01:58:49,038 --> 01:58:50,414
then go, okay, let's create a PDF

2136
01:58:50,456 --> 01:58:51,707
document or is that into this?

2137
01:58:51,916 --> 01:58:54,252
So it's actually built a web, a business

2138
01:58:54,252 --> 01:58:56,796
website, um, as if we're a startup who

2139
01:58:56,796 --> 01:58:58,881
helps with HR space and HR management.

2140
01:58:58,881 --> 01:59:00,424
It's employee off boarding processes,

2141
01:59:00,424 --> 01:59:02,176
which I, which is kind of cool.

2142
01:59:02,176 --> 01:59:04,470
There's a bit of a, a bit of a, and you

2143
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:06,848
know, because it's got the multi agents

2144
01:59:06,848 --> 01:59:07,515
and they're going back

2145
01:59:07,515 --> 01:59:08,432
and forth with each other.

2146
01:59:08,724 --> 01:59:10,268
Now, obviously all that's cool.

2147
01:59:10,268 --> 01:59:11,769
And maybe it's like smarter in terms of

2148
01:59:11,769 --> 01:59:13,521
refined of what it could do, but it's

2149
01:59:13,521 --> 01:59:15,106
going to be limited by just how much it

2150
01:59:15,106 --> 01:59:16,399
can generate in terms of the app.

2151
01:59:16,399 --> 01:59:18,484
But now how much it goes back and forth

2152
01:59:18,484 --> 01:59:20,278
and maybe those will be something.

2153
01:59:20,653 --> 01:59:22,780
Because I'm using a free version as well.

2154
01:59:23,072 --> 01:59:23,281
Exactly.

2155
01:59:23,281 --> 01:59:24,782
Like, and maybe the full one's different,

2156
01:59:24,782 --> 01:59:26,909
but it'd be interesting if, because like

2157
01:59:26,909 --> 01:59:28,619
right now with bolt, I have to go a

2158
01:59:28,619 --> 01:59:29,245
little bit back and

2159
01:59:29,245 --> 01:59:30,246
forth with it and stuff like

2160
01:59:30,288 --> 01:59:32,665
that, um, build the homepage first and

2161
01:59:32,665 --> 01:59:34,208
then add a menu and then do this.

2162
01:59:34,333 --> 01:59:35,835
That I wonder if there's ways that you

2163
01:59:35,835 --> 01:59:37,879
can just literally, well, they do have a

2164
01:59:37,879 --> 01:59:39,463
connection of Figma and so there are ways

2165
01:59:39,463 --> 01:59:40,464
to do stuff with that.

2166
01:59:41,257 --> 01:59:42,341
It's going to be interesting where you

2167
01:59:42,341 --> 01:59:43,759
can just literally do a simple command

2168
01:59:43,759 --> 01:59:45,970
and it will build that way more, the

2169
01:59:45,970 --> 01:59:47,179
pages and stuff as well.

2170
01:59:47,179 --> 01:59:48,306
What's interesting and we won't, I'm sure

2171
01:59:48,306 --> 01:59:49,181
you won't be able to do this because I

2172
01:59:49,223 --> 01:59:50,933
do have a free version, but it does say,

2173
01:59:51,183 --> 01:59:53,978
um, here, make all buttons clickable.

2174
01:59:54,312 --> 01:59:57,315
I'd use a profile dashboard area, uh,

2175
01:59:57,315 --> 01:59:58,649
create templates and library

2176
01:59:58,649 --> 02:00:00,484
of downloadable resources.

2177
02:00:00,484 --> 02:00:01,068
That is interesting.

2178
02:00:01,444 --> 02:00:02,445
Um, that is very interesting.

2179
02:00:02,445 --> 02:00:04,030
So I think you should get the credits.

2180
02:00:04,030 --> 02:00:04,739
I'll get the credits.

2181
02:00:04,739 --> 02:00:05,615
I'll have a play with that.

2182
02:00:05,615 --> 02:00:06,324
And maybe we'll do last

2183
02:00:06,324 --> 02:00:07,408
one is very interesting.

2184
02:00:07,617 --> 02:00:07,783
Yeah.

2185
02:00:07,909 --> 02:00:09,327
Because we know it can create content,

2186
02:00:09,327 --> 02:00:11,245
but I've not seen it like, you know,

2187
02:00:11,245 --> 02:00:12,580
normally with some of this stuff, you'd

2188
02:00:12,580 --> 02:00:14,040
have to create your own content first

2189
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:15,416
and build a way for it to be

2190
02:00:15,416 --> 02:00:16,959
downloadable into the database.

2191
02:00:16,959 --> 02:00:17,126
Yeah.

2192
02:00:17,126 --> 02:00:17,543
It's processing.

2193
02:00:17,835 --> 02:00:18,085
Okay.

2194
02:00:18,085 --> 02:00:18,836
Well, we'll see.

2195
02:00:18,878 --> 02:00:19,921
We'll see you back in

2196
02:00:19,921 --> 02:00:21,047
a few seconds folks.

2197
02:00:21,047 --> 02:00:23,090
So if, um, you know, it works out in time

2198
02:00:23,090 --> 02:00:24,258
by the time we're done with this.

2199
02:00:24,508 --> 02:00:25,968
So I wanted to just loop back into Hey

2200
02:00:25,968 --> 02:00:28,095
Boss AI quickly after it finished

2201
02:00:28,137 --> 02:00:30,598
post the completion of our podcast.

2202
02:00:31,265 --> 02:00:32,767
Um, as you can see here, this is the

2203
02:00:32,767 --> 02:00:33,351
output that it's

2204
02:00:33,351 --> 02:00:34,852
ended up producing a nice

2205
02:00:34,852 --> 02:00:36,979
clean experience website.

2206
02:00:37,146 --> 02:00:38,856
I mean, as a UXer and a designer myself,

2207
02:00:39,065 --> 02:00:40,691
I'd probably play with and tweak

2208
02:00:40,691 --> 02:00:41,984
a few things a little bit more, but you

2209
02:00:41,984 --> 02:00:43,986
do have the options to do that with

2210
02:00:43,986 --> 02:00:45,488
the tokens that you are given or the

2211
02:00:45,488 --> 02:00:46,822
credits that you were given to play with

2212
02:00:46,822 --> 02:00:47,156
the tool.

2213
02:00:47,740 --> 02:00:50,743
Um, I did end up doing a prompt for four

2214
02:00:50,743 --> 02:00:52,954
worth asking them to create some

2215
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:55,456
process downloadable guides and see in

2216
02:00:55,456 --> 02:00:56,832
the navigation at the top here, it's

2217
02:00:56,832 --> 02:00:58,751
created a whole templates page and

2218
02:00:58,751 --> 02:01:00,294
created some downloadable assets.

2219
02:01:00,294 --> 02:01:00,962
I'll be at that.

2220
02:01:00,962 --> 02:01:01,879
These assets not

2221
02:01:01,879 --> 02:01:02,964
actually working properly.

2222
02:01:03,339 --> 02:01:04,882
Um, so I can't validate the content

2223
02:01:04,882 --> 02:01:05,883
that's inside of them.

2224
02:01:06,217 --> 02:01:08,386
Um, but it did create at least a page for

2225
02:01:08,386 --> 02:01:09,845
that with some really nice filters

2226
02:01:09,845 --> 02:01:11,263
that you can tweak and play with.

2227
02:01:11,263 --> 02:01:12,390
So it's getting, it's got to mean that

2228
02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:13,683
90% of the way for a

2229
02:01:13,683 --> 02:01:14,600
platform that I could

2230
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:15,184
start adding

2231
02:01:15,184 --> 02:01:17,186
professional content that I needed.

2232
02:01:18,145 --> 02:01:21,107
Um, similarly, what was actually

2233
02:01:21,107 --> 02:01:21,857
secondary, what I

2234
02:01:21,857 --> 02:01:22,942
found really interesting

2235
02:01:23,275 --> 02:01:24,694
was the way that you're

2236
02:01:24,694 --> 02:01:26,320
able to edit this tool.

2237
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:28,239
So there's a little edit icon at the top

2238
02:01:28,239 --> 02:01:30,199
left hand corner of the page here.

2239
02:01:30,741 --> 02:01:33,077
And it opens up kind of like a really

2240
02:01:33,077 --> 02:01:35,621
nice CMS kind of experience.

2241
02:01:36,205 --> 02:01:38,416
Um, so I can tap on the text here and I

2242
02:01:38,416 --> 02:01:40,751
can actually change the headlines,

2243
02:01:41,002 --> 02:01:42,628
which I haven't seen done before.

2244
02:01:42,795 --> 02:01:45,423
And, um, tools like lovable, um, and

2245
02:01:45,423 --> 02:01:46,215
bolt, obviously you

2246
02:01:46,215 --> 02:01:47,341
are talking to the LLM

2247
02:01:47,341 --> 02:01:49,093
to make those adjustments, or you can

2248
02:01:49,093 --> 02:01:50,594
actually, you know, I've seen some people

2249
02:01:50,594 --> 02:01:53,305
even build some custom CMSs, um, to

2250
02:01:53,305 --> 02:01:55,683
actually play with how they build the

2251
02:01:55,683 --> 02:01:56,600
content and shape the

2252
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,727
content in the backend as well.

2253
02:01:58,060 --> 02:01:59,729
Um, you know, using vibe coding and other

2254
02:01:59,729 --> 02:02:01,814
integrations with real coding, et cetera.

2255
02:02:02,273 --> 02:02:03,357
Um, but just really interesting.

2256
02:02:03,357 --> 02:02:04,358
I thought that was a nice little touch

2257
02:02:04,358 --> 02:02:06,402
there, but I see that was just all this

2258
02:02:06,402 --> 02:02:08,779
was done with two very simple queries and

2259
02:02:08,779 --> 02:02:10,781
some adjustments based on questions.

2260
02:02:10,865 --> 02:02:13,242
It was asking, um, to me as well.

2261
02:02:13,492 --> 02:02:16,078
And the little CMS kind of experience to

2262
02:02:16,078 --> 02:02:17,788
adjust the content is a really nice

2263
02:02:17,788 --> 02:02:20,750
touch on that overall, um, obviously

2264
02:02:20,750 --> 02:02:22,251
there's a lot of different ways you can

2265
02:02:22,460 --> 02:02:26,047
query this platform to ask for, you know,

2266
02:02:26,047 --> 02:02:28,215
how to do certain things or what to

2267
02:02:28,215 --> 02:02:29,925
build and ideating with it.

2268
02:02:30,301 --> 02:02:32,762
Um, so it's just a nice little platform

2269
02:02:32,762 --> 02:02:34,555
that's being developed here in

2270
02:02:34,555 --> 02:02:35,222
conjunction with all the

2271
02:02:35,222 --> 02:02:36,265
other things that are out there.

2272
02:02:36,682 --> 02:02:37,349
Um, so we're interested to

2273
02:02:37,349 --> 02:02:38,184
see how they're developed.

2274
02:02:38,350 --> 02:02:39,518
It's still very early stage

2275
02:02:39,518 --> 02:02:41,687
and, uh, yeah, go for that.

2276
02:02:42,563 --> 02:02:43,898
Anyway, uh, thank you

2277
02:02:43,898 --> 02:02:44,899
so much for joining us.

2278
02:02:44,899 --> 02:02:45,566
That's been another

2279
02:02:45,566 --> 02:02:47,068
lovely episode of episode 27.

2280
02:02:47,568 --> 02:02:49,612
Um, dinosaur person, dinosaur Mark will

2281
02:02:49,612 --> 02:02:51,489
be back at some point soon.

2282
02:02:51,614 --> 02:02:52,573
Uh, we might be

2283
02:02:52,573 --> 02:02:53,908
different animals next week.

2284
02:02:54,241 --> 02:02:54,617
Love it.

2285
02:02:55,034 --> 02:02:55,618
See you there.

2286
02:02:55,618 --> 02:02:55,993
Stay cheesy.