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Investor Claims $50,000 Mishandled by Truck Biz in a Box Founder
Investors in the Truck Biz in a Box platform face hardships as Crystal Young shares her turbulent experience with Chamaine Jeffers. Her story gives valuable insights into the need for transparency, careful consideration, and vigilance in investment pursuits.
• Crystal's $50,000 investment in Truck Biz in a Box
• Red flags in documentation and contract agreements
• Difficulty in finding drivers despite proactive measures
• Truck broke down within a week of assignment
• Ongoing communication issues with Jeffers
• Legal community involvement due to widespread problems
• Lessons on transparency and vulnerability in investments
Good morning or afternoon everybody. This is Tammy, your host of Trucking with Tammy. As you've read, or as I've said, we are doing a whole series this week on investors who claimed that they had some bad business dealings with Shemaine Jeffers and her Truck Biz in a Box platform. Today we are going to speak to one of the investors, crystal young, who invested about fifty thousand dollars in the truck biz in a box program with shemaine jeffers and she's claiming that shemaine did not deliver what she promised. So I'm gonna bring crystal up. We are going to talk to crystal about her experience, uh, and how this played out for her. So one moment while I bring her up. Good morning, hi, crystal. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Well, welcome to Trucking with Tammy podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry to be here.
Speaker 1:So today. So you are the second person to go public with your business dealings with Shemaine Jeffers. Yeah, yeah. So we are going to talk about how you came into contact with Shemaine and your business dealings and how everything played out for you and what the future is looking like. Okay, okay, so we oh, I'm sorry Go ahead. So you did you curious question before we get started Did you have any experience in the trucking industry before this interaction?
Speaker 2:I have um. I got my, my ceo with cr england and I used to be trucking for a little bit, but um, I decided to um stay home and homeschool my daughter. But um, even before that like not before that, but like um after that I got my llc and I was actually um, um had a delivery, um route and I would deliver pharmaceutical, um pharmaceutical drugs to retirement homes at night.
Speaker 1:So that's where I got my llc yeah, so you actually had had a company called CT Reliable Transportation LLC, correct?
Speaker 2:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1:And it looks like you actually set this LLC up back in 2019. Yes, ma'am, OK so you you actually looks like came into contact with Shemaine Jeffers around 2022. Came into contact with Shemaine Jeffers around 2022?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's correct. I saw her on Truck and Hustle and I saw that she had a wonderful business deal and I was like, well, I'm not going to go in on that because it seems so good, Because I knew a little bit about it but I didn't know the back end. So I was just looking for something passive for me and my family. Okay.
Speaker 1:And what kind of training did, did, did. She may not offer you any training before the contract. Were you looking at any of her other programs before you went with the truck?
Speaker 2:visit in a box um, no, um, I just called and see about it and my husband we talked about it um, what I previously was going to do was like, just like, put my toe in it, put like a thousand dollars down. That was like the different tiers. He had like a thousand, fifteen thousand, thirty five and then fifty, which was the top tier, and, um, like my husband's, like no, we're not gonna do that, we're gonna go to the fifty thousand because we don't want to share, because you know they had other people in there and so, um, they had to sign a contract and all that he said, oh, that might not be reliable, let's do the fifty thousand. So that's pretty much what happened at that time.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you were saying that at the time that you came into contact with the truck visit in the box their tiers. How many tiers did they have?
Speaker 2:I think it's like at least I know it's $1,000. That's the lowest tier, okay, $15,000, and then $35,000, and then $50,000.
Speaker 1:And that was the lowest tier $15,000 and then $35,000 and then $50,000 and that was the top tier when we had Tezra on the show earlier this week, she had sent us one of the tier structures advertisements, and the one she sent us, the top tier, was $15,000, which allowed you to just be one owner. You didn't have to share ownership. So, you were saying there was two more tiers past that, a 35 and a 50. So what did those tiers provide that the other ones didn't?
Speaker 2:Well, this is like truck, um, whatever back in they have for us, like all the office work, um, so that's pretty much it, um, and the drivers, drivers, drivers and what else. That's all I remember. For us. It it's her providing the um, the for the package.
Speaker 1:Because your contract that you sent me that I looked over it looks pretty identical as far as services offered as Tezris. Okay. Um so I was kind of curious what the difference was with the pricing. Um, I didn't know if it was trucks, I didn't know exactly what, what you were getting for that fifty thousand dollars, uh, for her uh, I think it's like it wasn't hers in 2021, is that correct?
Speaker 2:that's probably why, um, she updated her website at that time, and so it it she kind of revised it where it got more money.
Speaker 1:Restructured probably. Yeah, okay, it might've been the cost of the trucks, you know, because yeah, pretty much. So okay. So you, you watched all her stuff. You talked to your husband and, without any history of the back end of trucking, you said let's do this.
Speaker 2:Well, well for me, I for me, I had a book. I was even if she is out of the way I wanted to learn the business myself so that I can do it myself and have my own fleet. So I brought a book, I was reading on it, you know, but during the time frame when we were because we were in a group for us investors and during that time frame, you know, I was trying to learn dispatching, um, she did, uh, credit credit reporting as well for the business, and I was learning how to do the back end office stuff for myself okay, so she was providing training services for that for you yeah it was okay.
Speaker 1:Was that included with your package, or did you have to pay for anything outside of that?
Speaker 2:I didn't pay um she offered for me free. Um I guess she she felt bad or I don't know, I'm not sure, but but I was like, is she offering free?
Speaker 1:and so you know, I took advantage of it, you know okay so, um, when she, when, when you approached her that you were interested in the business, the truck is in a box um, how much detail did she give you about how the process was going to work, moving forward, Well for her.
Speaker 2:I asked her when is the truck going to be on the road? And the email that you got, she said it was, let me see, let me read it.
Speaker 1:It looks like on February 15th. Yeah, this is the email. She sent me. These emails, guys, so it looks like, um, she had you notarize the contract, so you reached out to her and did you. Before you signed the contract, before you asked about the delivery, how much of a conversation was there about what she was going to do for you?
Speaker 2:What she told me was weekly. What they grossed was $2,000. That's the low end Between $3,000 a week. And so I thought, oh, that's awesome and stuff like that. And we talked to one of her investors and she said she was doing great um for us getting weekly settlement payments and we didn't really discuss too much. But more of you know this, getting somebody in talking to us um saying how much they get paid, we're actually um where the truck might be, because she already had the trucks already.
Speaker 1:Okay so that's my question. She said she already had trucks. Were these her trucks that she owned, or did she advise that she was leasing these? What did she tell you about where these trucks came from?
Speaker 2:She said she already owned it. It's in her name name, but it's like we had to pay payments on it and the trailers is rented, so we had to pay payments on that as well, and that will come out of the settlement okay, so you were under the understanding that she owned trucks.
Speaker 1:You were going to be buying those trucks from her. You guys were going to be renting trailers from a third party. She was going to be coming be providing drivers and she would be sending you a weekly settlement statement. Yes, ma'am, and this is all the conversation that you had prior to signing the contract yes, ma'am okay, and then she sent you this contract, which is pretty thick, so I'm not going to go over and I read the whole thing before.
Speaker 1:I even signed. I read the whole thing. So you had to get it notarized. So did you seek legal counsel to go over the contract before you signed it?
Speaker 2:I did not. That was my problem. I did not.
Speaker 1:Did the person that did the notary have anything to say about the blank pages where there was zero information filled up?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Okay, because that to me is a red flag when you have to sign it and notarize it. Normally a lawyer or notary in my past experiences have always um, had you put something in there, um, maybe to be determined or so forth, um, but that that wasn't so.
Speaker 2:I wasn't curious if that was a red flag or what her explanation for that was well, I was assuming this was my mind, excuse me, um, this was in my mind that, even though she advertised and said that your name, your business name, is going to be on the truck, I was assuming that she interchanged the trucks from different investors. That's what my mind was, okay.
Speaker 1:But that's not what the terms of the contract were right, yeah, exactly. Okay, so you were supposed to be getting a check from her. So part of the when you signed this contract, part of the responsibilities was setting up the LLC which you already had. So it also said the equipment would be assigned to you and you would. The plates would be in your name. Did you get any paperwork showing that the plates were in your name?
Speaker 2:no, because everything was in her name. I you know that's what she was saying. There's nothing in my name, in my business name at all.
Speaker 1:No, so she was supposed to be setting up and managing your trucking business but you're saying there wasn't actual a trucking business set up.
Speaker 2:I just feel like, um, there was no truck, and then she was always complaining that there was no driver, um, but the thing is for me, I'm proactive, so with me I'm advertising on different platforms to get a driver.
Speaker 1:So let's go back, because before you have a driver, you have to have a truck. Yeah, so. So she told you she had trucks on her lot, she already owned trucks, and you did end up sending me two statements that you got. So when did the truck pop up? When did you get the truck?
Speaker 2:um, I believe between it might have been in march, but she didn't have a driver okay, but let's start with the truck.
Speaker 1:Did she send you VIN numbers? Did she send you any paperwork of the truck that you were going to have any information about it? None, no. Mileage Year.
Speaker 2:Nothing, but the thing she did say it was a 2015 fake liner and that was it.
Speaker 1:Okay. Do you have the email or the correspondence with that, or was it a phone call? It was a phone call. It was a phone call, okay, so she never filled out this information that she had in the contract.
Speaker 2:Actually, actually, it wasn't even a phone call. It was actually in the form that we are, in all, the investors in so they had a list of yeah, yeah, it forum that we are and all the investors in so they had a list of yeah, yeah, it was a head of list of all the investors, and then she assigned a different um truck to you.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so you got. She said you got a 2015, but you you didn't have any paperwork of that. Okay, and then your next obstacle was needing a driver. Yes, okay, and how did that go? She's obstacle was needing a driver.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, and how did that go? She's always asking for a driver in the forum. She's like I need a driver, I need a driver. I mean, she had meetings about that and everything but for me-.
Speaker 1:It's an industry-wide problem.
Speaker 2:It is For me. I'm proactive. So I actually became a member of the national association small trucking companies and um I. I got a membership from there, um, and also a driving. I was under the driver recruiting program. I had to pay for that too. So these people um that they're recruiting, they're sitting to me and so they have two years experience, no infractions, nothing.
Speaker 2:So I'm sitting her 30 over 30 drivers that are qualified, but she said, no, I don't have any drivers. So I don't understand. I'm advertising, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do on my end, but why can't you do what you're supposed to do on your end?
Speaker 1:right, so you got the truck, yeah, so you waited for the truck and now you have this truck and she's saying but there's no driver. So once she assigned the truck, are you having to make truck payments?
Speaker 2:no, I didn't make any truck payments or anything, because, okay, I don't know, she just I guess it came out her bank account, I don't know, but I wasn't making any payments so at this point it's just the the initial $50,000 that you sent her and okay so how much time went so your contract was signed on February 15th um and your your funds sent in sorry 17th.
Speaker 1:You signed the contract. You sent in your $50,000 on February 15th, though when you think it was about March that you got the truck. When did she tell you she had a driver?
Speaker 2:It wasn't like you see those statements. It says September timeframe, but it was her truck and her driver. I mean, she said I give you the best truck. It's my truck and my driver, so let me go ahead and September time frame and it only lasted a week and broke down for a week.
Speaker 1:Okay, what do you mean? Her truck and her driver.
Speaker 2:Meaning like that's how well, that's how she said it. Like I just said that I didn't have a truck like in my name. It was in her name, so she was saying it's you know, I get the best, the best truck and my best driver. So I don't get what she was saying there because it's in her name, it's her truck, right, and her drivers and employees. So it broke down and it was in the repair shop.
Speaker 1:That's even the thing that we're hearing a lot right off the bat. So everybody says the same thing. So it ran for two weeks. Was it two weeks? You gave me two statements, statements so I wasn't quite sure there was, there was, was it?
Speaker 1:two statements, let me let me go to statements yeah, so, um, that would have been two weeks right I thought it was a week, but it might have been two weeks uh, is it one statement per week or? Um, yeah, yeah, okay, so you sent me. Well, they're both. Let's see here. I'm bear with me, guys, while I pull up this statement here. Um, we have, looks like, pay statement for february 4th 2022. Three pages long, and then May 20th 2022. May 20th.
Speaker 2:I didn't have anything in May.
Speaker 1:So what? The statements you sent me, the statements you sent me. Why did you put it in May? So yeah, so the statements you sent me, the statements you sent me. Why did she put it in May? Because it was a September? Well, I'm curious, because the first pay statement that she sent you is dated February 4th and that was before you signed your contract with her.
Speaker 2:Did you not notice that I?
Speaker 1:didn't? That's a great question. That is a great question. So the first statement, if you would pull up the email you sent me, Okay, let me see.
Speaker 2:Actually I can find it. It's in here somewhere.
Speaker 1:So it says pay statement date May 20th and the dates of the trips are in May.
Speaker 2:No, that was in September. No, that's no possible way. That's what's on here, but that's not right.
Speaker 1:It was September, I'm afraid the first one was dated February 4th for runs that was done, runs that were done January 26th and February 1st, which was before you signed your contract.
Speaker 2:Yes, the dates are lying. Yes, it's September. It was one week. What the world? I didn't even have any attention to that.
Speaker 1:Thank you for doing that. You're welcome. Yeah, but in your records when she messaged you, the truck actually only ran when.
Speaker 2:It was at the end of September of 2022.
Speaker 1:That last week, and it broke down and can you pull up in your email when she sent you these statements?
Speaker 2:Oh, I hope I got it.
Speaker 1:Do you still have access to that? I wasn't quite sure. Paper trail is very important with what you're going through right now. So, yeah, I found that interesting. That's why I printed these out today, because um dates are very important dates are very important.
Speaker 2:See if I find it still so while you're doing that?
Speaker 1:so you were saying she told you in March she had a truck, but then she didn't have a driver until September, and then she ran them for one week and then told you the truck broke down. Yes, that is crazy. So all this time from she ran them for one week and then told you the truck broke down. Yes, that is crazy. So all this time from March to September. What was she saying? What was her excuse?
Speaker 2:She was saying that the, the um, everything for as back back then it was low and so they didn't. She didn't have drivers. She was still looking for drivers and it was very slow. You're, you're going to get in the negative. You don't have to pay out, so you're just like, okay, that's fine if you just not, you know, trying to drive our trucks back and forth um to deliver. But you know, the the main thing was that she didn't have drivers. She was always asking for drivers and I gave her plenty of drivers that qualified, so it was always that. So that's the only thing that she was talking about drivers okay.
Speaker 1:So then you had a driver for a week. The truck went in the shop. What happened after that?
Speaker 2:um, then I was like a couple of weeks after that, um, she called me and she said you need to call into the repair shop. She did give me a VIN number actually that time, but the VIN was the wrong VIN. I called in and said I had to. Actually, I gave the VIN and said that's not the right number and what happened was I had to give them her name to even get to the truck, so just to check on the truck. And I was checking on the truck, that's what I was doing.
Speaker 2:And then, um, after that, we had a meeting within the forum of the group and she was saying, like, um, that people were paying on the repair, repairs of the, the trucks, and that, like with mine, she'll say you owe like $7,000, you have the money. I was like I don't have it because there's no truck coming on the road, you didn't have a driver, it's in the pear shop right now and now you want me to pay $7,000 more to repair it. And I was like I don't have it. She said I'm actually taking out money for to repair these trucks. I'm like what you want me to do? I don't know what I'm supposed to do because you know you're not doing what you're doing for me, for as a business owner, and actually getting the trust on the road and get a drivers and do what you're supposed to do so let me make sure I understand this correctly you made a fifty thousand dollar investment into this for a truck.
Speaker 1:She didn't give you a truck, she didn't give you a driver. She came back and she said oh, I have a truck, but I don't have a driver. And then that was march, and then we have april, may, june, july, august, september. She comes back and says hey, you've been sitting here, I'm gonna put a driver in my truck for you.
Speaker 1:He runs a week it breaks down, which isn't even supposed to be your truck, and she wants you to pay 7 000 now for a truck that you don't even know where it came from exactly.
Speaker 2:That's weird isn't it right?
Speaker 1:that that is weird. So at no point did she say you know, so if you have a truck, did you find it weird that she wasn't having you make payments on this truck?
Speaker 2:well, I was thinking more of it's, since it's in her name like why would I have to pay for something that's in her name?
Speaker 1:right? Well, according to your contract, you were going to lease it from her and according to her contract, the title was going to be in her name. But you were going to be on it with her and the plates were going to be in your name, so that would mean I never got anything in that and you never received any of that no, I didn't, but you also weren't making payments. So where did she tell you your $50,000 was going to go towards?
Speaker 2:well, $50,000 were to get the truck, which she already had, so that was a little weird. Was it like a down payment? Yeah, it was a down payment for the truck, but she already had a truck, so I don't and it was for a 2015? 2015.
Speaker 1:Because your contract was for rent payments of $101,000. So you were paying $101,000 for a 2015?.
Speaker 2:And for over 400,000 miles on a truck.
Speaker 1:Did you price trucks? Because I don't see where your $50,000 came off this price.
Speaker 2:Because the thing I think now, looking back at it, I think she put down like $10,000 on it. I'm not sure, but in she pocketed the worst and that's what I think.
Speaker 1:So her actual where the money was going through, that was never established. In writing, not exactly okay, was that a red flag for you?
Speaker 2:I was thinking like I really wanted to work and I was hoping that I would get this money coming in, but I didn't think of it as a red flag. You trusted her. I didn't think about it. Yeah flag, I didn't think about it pretty much you saw her.
Speaker 1:You saw all these people following her. You saw her on this truck and hustle and you. You believed in what she was selling, yeah exactly cause it could work because like.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking for myself, like if she had gotten a FedEx route and put all the money that she, she got, got a FedEx route, put the trucks on the FedEx route. This is a dedicated lane. It could have worked for me, you know, but she, she didn't want to go that route. So I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean honestly the whole thing. Um, it could have worked if you would have had a truck and you would have had a driver. Um, it definitely, definitely could have worked in your favor, but it didn't. So when september came and went, what happened after that?
Speaker 2:um, after that I just like a couple of weeks later I text her and said I just want my money back. Then she was saying well, the only way you can get your money back if you sell the truck or somebody gets your package. I'm like, how am I going to sell the truck? It's in your name. How is that possible? There's no way I can do that. So then she decided to persuade me to get another package, which costs more, into a newer truck. Right. So I'm like, I'm just. I'm just. I was done after that because she was telling me I was just going to sell the truck the old truck from the repair shop and give me the bulk of the money. Old truck from the repair shop and give me the bulk of the money and then get into the new trucking package with a newer truck. That's what she told me.
Speaker 1:But that never happened. Weren't you already in the highest package that she had? Yeah, at that time yes, okay, but then, all of a sudden, a newer package popped up. Yeah, she was trying to persuade me to do it, but I did not.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, and but then, all of a sudden, a newer package popped up. Yeah, she was trying to persuade me to do it, but I did not do it. No, after that I just stopped contact with her. I could not, I couldn't do it anymore. And then what did you do?
Speaker 2:Um, after that it was a Marcus that called me. He was, he was asking me if about her, and I was like, well, I'm just tired and I want to sue her. And he said, oh, there's another lady trying to sue her. And she got a lawyer in Florida and they gave me the information for a lawyer or stuff like that. And it was so much money he wanted to $5,000 just to write a letter. And I was like I don't have that much money, I don't know what else to do. But back in my mind I said, like if she did this to some to me, I know she does it to somebody else, so that's how I just let it go after that. That's what I just let it go after that. That's when I got in contact with Tessra and saw the post from LinkedIn and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:So did you ever receive any other correspondence or documents from her after that?
Speaker 2:No, not after that.
Speaker 1:Any tax documents? Nope, I did not. Okay, and when you received those two statements with those dates on it, were there any funds with that, did she?
Speaker 2:send you any proceeds. Just those two that you have, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:But she sent you the money that those reflected.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, that, those reflected. Yeah, okay, that is where. And so now what?
Speaker 2:what steps have you taken to not much, because it's so costly and because these lawyers they want so much money for me to write a letter and do a civil case against her. I I just didn't have the money to really sue her. I had no choice but just to take the L.
Speaker 1:Right. Did they tell you anything about your contract or about your situation, though? When you spoke to them?
Speaker 2:They said I have a case, but that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:Did they say what the grounds were for that case? Um, like racial contract, breach your contract? Yeah, and I know um some of the other investors had filed federal charges against her. Had you done that as well?
Speaker 2:yeah, I did fail charges. I went to the police about it. A report, a police report. I went to the Attorney General in Florida as well. So I did that. All that you did. Okay, okay, yes ma'am.
Speaker 1:So what's coming up next? What are we?
Speaker 2:I'm hoping justice.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 2:I'm hoping that nobody else gets scammed by her, because she's been scamming so many people and it is nobody stopping her. I was hoping that by us going to the FBI, that they would have done something and see like her alert, but nothing has happened to her. She's still free to do whatever she wants, is she still?
Speaker 1:selling the package? Do you know if she I mean, is she still?
Speaker 2:No, she's still free to do whatever. She's still selling the package. Do you know if she I mean, is she still? No, I'm, she's selling courses. She's still doing the um cdl for life thing, I think. But like, how's that legal if she's not registered?
Speaker 1:I, I don't know. That's a good question, I. I would also advise that her llcs were all inactive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um and then there was.
Speaker 1:There was a um, I I do believe I I saw a couple, uh, civil suits myself. Tesla said that she found eight. Oh, I haven't verified that. Um, I have saw three myself in New York and Florida pertaining to that. And has anybody, shemaine, or anybody, reached out to you with this information out besides the investor group? No, nothing else. So how has this affected your view of the trucking industry now?
Speaker 2:You got to be careful. I should have went with my gut feeling Like just give the $1,000, at least it will like really study, like people and what they're doing Like study their business thoroughly. You know it makes me think like should have not been a little bit more knowledgeable about it then this is going in on it. But but it is what it is living, you learn and you do better and how does it fight?
Speaker 1:I mean $50,000, that's a lot cuz we took it alone.
Speaker 2:My husband took alone, no, and so, like it's like, I had to use my credit cards just to, you know, get food and that's there.
Speaker 1:So you're gonna be paying back that 50 000 for a long time. It's a lot yeah, that that is a lot. That is a lot.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope you guys, you know I I spoke to, you know I I spoke to a group of you the other day, um of the investors that were affected, and I know everybody's trying to work together now moving forward and I hope I hope you guys are able to get some kind of resolution and I hope, moving forward, um that this has been a good learning experience for you guys and it serves as a learning experience for our viewers yeah, this be mindful.
Speaker 2:I mean really be mindful. Make sure you really investigate them. I'm to the point where I'm not even trying to be in any type of business, I'm just just trying to get my education and, you know, get a good career.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trucking is a great industry, you know, get a good career. Yeah, Trucking is a great industry. You know if you um aren't being scammed, I guess I know, right, yeah, so um, but it's an expensive one and this was an expensive lesson for you.
Speaker 1:Um so I am sorry that this happened to you, that you had this experience and that it wasn't a very pleasant one, and I hope that you know, moving forward, that it doesn't, you know, leave too big of a black mark and and you can still do whatever it is that you're setting out in life to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just that you know people like her like people who scam will always scam. People like her like people who scam will always scam. So there's always something about like her. She could have did it legitimately and made so much money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's a great. It's got a great possibility. You know if it was done legitimately. Possibility you know if it was done legitimately. I think you know taking people who aren't familiar with the trucking industry and training them and being very transparent and doing it in a very legit, transparent way. Um, it has potential. It does.
Speaker 1:So um but transparency and legitimacy is very important, which you did not either of, and there's a lot of gray areas and there was a lot of red flags yeah, and I wish I had this said no, and what are my guts? Yes, yes, and I do hope, moving forward, that that you know they are able to um stop this from happening yeah, because nobody deserves to have their money taken.
Speaker 2:People work hard for that and nobody deserves that.
Speaker 1:You know no yeah, so is there anything else that you would like to add that I did not cover? I know there was a lot.
Speaker 2:There was a lot going on during that time period um, during that time, um, she did give me the free course for as getting credit, uh, building my credit, business, uh, because her, her credit even though her personal credit was really low, but her business credit was awesome, that's why she can get the houses and stuff like that and she showed me how to do it. She gave me trade lines, whatever, uh, from different companies, um, and also me I had. She wanted me to get like a office, a gym office. That's what I did and I ran out of the office. I got a business license and stuff like that, like it looked really legit and you know I wanted to make sure I get so that I could get like other trucks. So, if you know, that's why she was trying to build our business, because to get other trucks, so she'd get more money coming in so she had okay, so I didn't know that part, so she had you actually establish a brick and mortar office yeah, um, actually not.
Speaker 2:No, I did that on my own, but she, she gave us information on how to build our credit, our business credit, and you know I I got a. I rented out a um building office office space, got my business license, I made my own website. I would make my own website. Um, also, what else I do um trade lines. He gave us trade lines and stuff like that. So you know, trying to, you know buy products and stuff so you can build our business credit and get more trucks from there nice, nice.
Speaker 1:So I'm glad you learned that at the only the only question that the only concern I had with all that is how were your taxes affected?
Speaker 2:Well, I actually put in I had got somebody professional to do that for me and they they kind of like they said, no, you can't have this much, you know as much going on. So they adjusted it. So, yeah, we get a pretty good income tax return, but it wasn't much, but it was pretty, it was decent.
Speaker 1:But you were able to claim that 50,000 that you put into the business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did to a certain degree, but they still adjusted it, so it wasn't as much as I thought it was going to be. It was up there until they adjusted it. They said like, no, you're not going to get that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was wondering, with her not providing any information, how that was going to affect everybody's taxes for those years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a receipt and I gave the information to her, all the information I had, and that's how I got at least something back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, all right, well, crystal, I appreciate you taking the time out to tell our, tell our story, tell your story to our viewers.
Speaker 1:You know I'm moving forward. If anybody has been affected by this, please reach out to Crystal Young. You can reach out to Tezra Scott. Tezra is pretty public on her information. She's on LinkedIn, she's on Facebook. You can also reach out to us at Real Women in Trucking or me Trucking with Tammy, and I can forward you over to the right people. But thank you very much for viewing this episode of trucking with tammy crystal. Thank you for joining us and everybody. I will see you on the next one. Bye.
