What's Eating U?! S2 Ep 9: The Mushies Episode

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- ❤️ Kecho invites us into his Microdose Movement
- 🍄 The new Mushies Wellness Kit helps support overall well being 
- 🍄‍🟫 Why mushies are teachers of the plant medicine world
- 🪱 Kecho calls the worms he saw on the ParaFy Parasite Cleanse "squiggly monsters" 😱
- 🦠 How Kim survived toxic mold in the woods
- 🌿 The LymF Kit contains Turkey Tail & Lion's Mane — two of our fav functional mushies
- ❤️‍🩹 We open up about our own personal mushie healing journeys 
- ❣️ Why Red Artist is one of our favorite RogersHood tinctures
- 🫶🏼 This episode is packed full of so MUSH knowledge, info & inspiration to support YOU in being well! 

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Transcript

Welcome And Mushroom Focus

Sam 0:00

Ooh, it's talking. It's talking about what's eating you. Talking about what's eating you. Proudly brought to you by Rogers Hood Apothecary. Hello, beautiful people. Welcome back to What's Eating You. We are your hosts, Sam. And Kim. And today we're bringing you all of the health and wellness information and healing knowledge that you're hungry for. Please remember to like, subscribe, share with your loved ones, get this information out to as many people as it can help as possible. Today we have such a special guest because we are mushroom people. We've been wanting to have a mushy episode for so long. And who better to have it with than founder and creator of Microdose Movement? Yes. Right? Keito, welcome. Let's go.

SPEAKER_04 0:49

Yes, welcome.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Thank you for being here. Yeah, thank you guys so much.

Sam 0:56

Man, the mushrooms. Yeah. How should we dive into this deep and powerful subject that has affected all of us in our lives personally? I know that, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Yeah.

Sam 1:06

Yeah. Yeah. How did you get into the world of mushrooms?

Keito’s First Ceremony And Four Stages

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Um so like my background in my early 20s, I was like a promoter doing nightlife things. And I was like, man, I'm like engulfed in um this whole like fabricated material world. And then uh I took a leap of faith. My buddy invited me to a ceremony in uh in Mazatlan in Sinaloa in Mexico. And um I just I didn't know what was gonna happen. And it was 15 of us. I was in in on we're on the beach, and I just like was just trust the process. Buckle up, ego is ego is death, and yeah.

Sam 1:46

You did have someone there, a guide to shaman. So you had support, but what was that experience like for you?

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Yeah, that was like really the the evolution of like kind of like understanding the process and like how it correlates to life and all the things you do. So for me, it was there's four stages that I like was like um experiencing. There was the the pain and suffering stage, uh forgiveness, gratitude, and manifestation, right? A lot of the trauma that we all experience, right, in our younger years, ancestral childhood trauma. Um, really coming to terms with that and then going to that forgiveness stage, forgiving that person, forgiving yourself, and then uh gratitude is like you're living your inner child, right? Just a beam of light, you know, and then manifest manifestation was where I was just like, okay, cool. What's that that new potential, that new future?

Sam 2:37

Whoa, it's like the active creation at the end of the process because you had to go through all the other steps to get there. So the key to move through it, because you had to move through it to get to the next one.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

Yeah.

Sam 2:48

So you had to surrender, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:49

Yeah, surrender and yeah, you gotta trust the process. You gotta know that there's like that light at the end of the tunnel, you know. I I tell people it's like, you know, like a spiritual ice bath.

Sam 2:59

Beautiful, beautiful. You've had an ego death at mush mushrooms, Kim? Yeah, yeah. How'd that go? Like a year straight. How did that go?

SPEAKER_02 3:05

365 days.

Kim 3:07

There was a lot going on in those woods.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

Yeah. Yeah.

Kim 3:10

A good mushroom trip. We left totally different people. It was a year and a half straight. Oh, yeah. The only reason why I had to stop is because I went viral.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Yeah. You went viral.

Kim 3:21

And then I had to kind of shape up a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Yeah, you're like my brain is shaking.

Sam 3:26

Well, because you actually had to like then tap into the matrix and like and build a business in the matrix from the viral because you're like, let me build something out of this opportunity, and you can't be like, you know, in another realm while you're doing that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. She had to like ground herself in this realm. I'm like, all right, I had to come back.

Kim 3:45

Yeah. Right. But it wasn't full ego death every day, but I did mushrooms every day.

SPEAKER_03 3:50

Yes.

Kim 3:50

Like I would take breaks sometimes on Fridays. Yeah. Like I had it structured and scheduled because I was trying to like pivot from medications and I used mushies to do that.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kim 4:02

So I was doing it all during the day. Jeremy would do it in the evening when he would get off from building the log home. Yes. Because it's not good to take mushrooms and then try and climb a ladder. Like two castle throughout. It's like 26 feet up. I'm like, thank you, babe, for letting me go during the day. And then you can come chill at night if you want to.

Sam 4:23

Well, Kim was out there on that land meditating on mushrooms in portals.

Kim 4:27

Oh, yeah, yeah. We have portals out on our log home.

SPEAKER_03 4:30

I bet.

Kim 4:30

We have three of them.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

Yeah.

Kim 4:32

Um, I talked to some deer. Yeah, found out one was pregnant, and then like the next day she had her baby. Like it was really the deer?

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Sam 4:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Did I help you birth that baby?

Sam 4:48

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Grandmama, like, you know, the auntie.

Sam 4:54

But yeah, but I think it's so beautiful. Let's share what you heard on the mushrooms that led to all of this.

Kim 5:02

Yeah, that and how I know you because I listened to your podcast.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Yeah.

Kim 5:07

And I know I reached out to you a few times while I was on my journeys because there wasn't a lot of people about this, right?

SPEAKER_03 5:15

Yeah.

Kim 5:16

So what happened though is this deer came up to me and said, Hey, you're fine. Like you're fine. You're healed. You just need to like think about it, like remember that. And it just it was just the weirdest thing. And I'm pregnant. I mean, it was just like all these little second downloads right away.

Sam 5:34

When did you hear cleanse?

Kim 5:36

Oh, that was when I was micro-dosing and walking around my property. So I was so sick that I couldn't um go outside and

Daily Microdosing And Grounding

Kim 5:45

walk around the whole property um for months. I would get outside and I would walk halfway and then I'd have to go back to our travel trailer and rest. And that's kind of how I started growing my strength back up with the mushrooms. Like I'm serious. Every day was the best thing I could have ever done for myself was taking them. They just give me so much more energy, they make me feel like better every time I took them. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Sam 6:10

Yeah, and you were so you were microdosing one day and you were walking around the property and you heard cleanse.

Kim 6:15

Yeah, multiple times throughout like the duration of the year. So just the word was cleanse coming up inside of you. Every every chance it could, it like was popping in my mind. And then and then I'd see things like because I had a kundalini awakening, I forced it. Basically, now I like look back and I know. Yeah, and I forced a kundalini. You force it, you're just like, I just did so many mushrooms.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Yes. You're like, damn, what is this?

Sam 6:42

Oh my gosh. Some people lose their mind. Um people lose their mind when they when it's full-blown cun kundalini awakening.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Yes, people can't out of body and they stay out of body. Yeah.

Kim 6:53

I mean, maybe I still am. I don't know. This is a wild. Quite a good job.

Sam 7:02

Wow, right? Powerful, powerful. Yeah, but I mean, I think that's so beautiful, actually. Like the root, um, the first time you ever even heard the word cleanse, like you know, besides from younger your mom cleansing or whatever as a child, but like when you when you were really sick out on that land and you used the mushrooms, you had the medicine in you, and you heard the word cleanse over and over, and then you did. And then tons of parasites and worms came out. Yeah. And then she built, she created her own. And then she was like, Was that was it like five years ago?

SPEAKER_02 7:29

How long?

Kim 7:30

Yeah, 2020 and 2021.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

That really is like not that long ago.

Kim 7:34

No, I know it's not that long ago.

Sam 7:37

It's only been a few years. In a few years, we forgot about it. Yeah, and how far she's come in her help.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

Yes, that's like that's phenomenal.

Sam 7:45

She was truly on her deathbed four years ago, you know.

Kim 7:48

Listening to what you were saying, too. Like I would listen.

Sam 7:52

When you were out there, you would listen. Yes, oh yes. Oh, yes.

Kim 7:57

Yeah, because you've been on you've been talking about this for forever.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

For a minute, for sure.

Kim 8:03

I mean, it I I picked up on what you were saying five years ago.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Yeah.

unknown 8:08

Wow.

Kim 8:08

Yeah. And Denver Mycology was five years ago. Michael Massacre was our first guy. He was our second that we listened to. Fresh Cap. We listened to Fresh Cap Tony. He was he's great. He's still out there. He has a company.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Man.

Kim 8:25

So I've been tapped into the mushrooms because when I figured out how sick I was, but mushrooms could heal my body.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Yeah.

Kim 8:32

And I'm like, I'm just gonna do that. I'm just doing it. You know, and there isn't a lot of the science out there about how and can help your brain. But I live in Seattle and they just fought the DEA to help end of life people come to grips with it by allowing them to take mushrooms

The “Cleanse” Download And Healing

Kim 8:50

in that and I went to that doctor at Ames. Well, like I saw him and he fought for people's rights.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

What was that climb for you? So, like during that time, obviously your health was out of whack. Yeah. Like, how did you get out of that like hole? You know? Yeah.

Sam 9:06

Getting the environmental toxins out was a huge part.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

Yeah. Yeah.

Kim 9:09

Yeah, it was uh mushrooms played a huge part. Whenever I would get, whenever I would start questioning myself, I knew the mushrooms were there to correct me.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Yeah.

Kim 9:20

Constantly correcting me.

Sam 9:22

She cleansed, she did mold avoidance. Yeah. She got out of the mold. Yes. She got the parasites and worms out of her body. Yes. She continued on natural medicine with the mushrooms and started focusing on root cause. And she just kept becoming more and more alive. She kept increasing her life force more and more, then had the energy and the clarity and the power to build a business. She said, Well, wait, I should make my own cleanse. Why would I be cleansing with someone else's product? Let me make my own. I know about the herbs. I have a whole history with the herbs. Let me make my own. And then her and Jeremy got together and formulated the Paraphy cleanse. And he basically was like, if they want to see worms, let them see worms. So he put the amount of herbs in them to where we would all see the worms. They built the cleanse, you know, and it boomed because it really works. It it blew up because it really works, you know. And four four years later, here we are sitting in La Jolla with this beautiful view with you as a guest when she was in the woods sick, listening to you. And I think that's a really beautiful full circle. Full circle. Yes. It's a full circle example of the mycelium network. Thanks for those kind words. Of course. I'll always be a reflection to you. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy, man.

Kim 10:34

It's crazy how full circle all of this comes. And really, the mushrooms are a huge part of it all.

Sam 10:42

They really are. They really are. In our personal lives too, our everyday. The functional mushrooms, you know, they really help. They really help a lot.

Kim 10:51

They really do. I've never really took stuff in just lion's mane, turkey tail.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

That's what I'm saying. It's like the mushrooms are a catalyst to everything else. So you eat stuff with lion's mane. Someone's going to amplify the lion's mane and like really help with the neuroplasticity. And then, you know, everything else in between, right? So it's like the nootropics and adamagens, they they essentially block out the psychoactive effects. I I like to think of it as like the less you need to use, the least it damage it does to your gut.

Kim 11:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

More for the gut stuff, right? Because like then you have to consume more fiber. You know what I mean? So, and then a lot of the the alkaloids and the fibers in mushrooms can be irritat, like irritant to your body.

Sam 11:33

I'm so glad you brought this up. Yeah. Can we talk about mushy tummy, please? Can we talk about a solution? No, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

I'm a big tea guy, right? So tea is the essence of just life for me. I'm sipping on tea all day. Okay. I'm I don't want to say Asian thing. I don't know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam 11:49

I love tea. We love tea. Yeah, we're tea people. We're tea people.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

I'm like, yeah, what can it make me feel better? Tea all day. Herbs.

Sam 11:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

But yeah, grounding the mushrooms and really refined the molecules, right? To where it's like bioavailable to your stomach and then it absorbs.

Sam 12:06

Basically, it's because it's like the bigger the fibers, yeah, like the harsher.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

That's why they say chew chew your food 30 times, you know.

Sam 12:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Did you chew it 30 times?

Sam 12:15

I mean, no. You know, it depends on how much of a hurry I'm in. But yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, listen, the mushrooms, man. They're always teaching. They're always teaching. They always make me get to cleaning and get my space in order. Like they won't have like they don't stand disorder, right? The mushroom does not stand disorder. I'm the opposite. I'm the opposite. I just have to let it go. Yeah, I just. Yeah, so the mushrooms like loosen the f up. And me

From Illness To Parasite Cleansing

Sam 12:45

in my everyday life, I'm like, ooh, it's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Aquarius, what are you?

Sam 12:48

I'm an Aries sun, but I'm a Scorpio moon. So pretty, yeah. Wild. But yeah, what are you?

SPEAKER_02 12:53

I'm Aquarius.

Sam 12:53

Oh, okay, nice.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

But I'm kind of like, I'm out there.

Sam 12:56

Oh, you're ethereal. Yes. Oh, you're very okay, got it. So do mushrooms ground you then?

SPEAKER_03 13:02

Yes.

Sam 13:03

Or do they shoot you more into space like rocket fuel? They ground you.

SPEAKER_03 13:06

Yes.

Sam 13:07

So actually, what we just came across is whatever you are in your ego, like in your everyday life in your ego, it seems like when they come in, they balance it and help you balance it out.

Kim 13:20

Yeah. Yep. It does. It helps you balance. Look at that.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Yeah, for sure. The whole like the the four state pain and suffering, forgiveness, gratitude, manifestation, like once you get over yourself and you get over like the internal struggle of like the battle that you're fighting about like shame and like betrayal and just like unable being unable to forgive, you're just like battling the internal, you know, dialogue in your head.

Sam 13:46

So can we unpack that a little bit? Yeah. How did you overcome that and totally release that like the shame? Did you use the plant medicine to help you do that?

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah.

Sam 13:56

Do you remember what how you did it or what the keys were?

SPEAKER_02 13:59

It definitely was a catalyst, but like I think like a variation. So I tell people there's three ways to change your life. Okay, there's plant medicine, right? And then there's, you know, like a retreat or like a motivational, like Tony Robbins or like Joe Dispenza conference, like a motivational conference like that. And then there's a near-death experience, right? And the near-death experience, I like almost I manifested this. I like almost died at a clinic like four months ago. Had an anaphylactic shock from an Ivy, and then I like seized on the ground. I was like, Jesus.

Kim 14:36

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

I like manifested that for myself. Like I was talking about this like a week before, but it was like I had this near-death experience because I like lost oxygen to my brain and like started seizing, poop in my pants, pissed myself.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

Oh, you really indeed for real.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Yes. Oh, dang.

Kim 14:53

How long ago was that? Yeah, what was that?

SPEAKER_02 14:54

It was like four months ago. Yeah. Four months ago?

Kim 14:58

That's a why? That's a muscle memory you're gonna have to go through.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

But it was like, I was like, damn, like, okay, cool. Like, I'm so grateful for life now. Wow.

Kim 15:07

Four months ago?

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Four months ago, yeah.

Kim 15:09

Oh, friend.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Yeah. So it was, yeah, it was like, I was like, Jesus, like now I know what it feels like. Because that was like my first near that near death experience. So I checked all the boxes. I checked all the boxes, you know what I mean?

Sam 15:23

Okay, yes. What did you experience?

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Yeah, so it's one of those things where like I'm like, I'm just like, oh, like almost died. I'm like, I'm so happy and grateful, but like not like able to unpack it and really feel into it. That's why I'm going to Costa Rica, you know? And um I feel like that's a lot of the stuff that I'm trying to really feel into, right?

Kim 15:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

So I've like, I've I I'm like, I always like analyze the trauma and I'm like really good at like conceptualizing and analyzing it and like you know, justifying it, but then the other side of it is like feeling it and letting yourself feel into it, right? And like having those tears and being able to cry, you know. So I'm I'm definitely like, I feel like I'm I'm you know, it's like Asian culture and upbringing where you're just like kind of like trained to like hide your emotions, not feel not expressed for sure.

Sam 16:24

Emotionally expressed, yeah. I'm really glad you survived. Yes, yeah, man. I'm so glad you're alive and you're okay and you're here to tell the story. And I feel like that's that was so fresh and it's so recent. Uh, you're gonna have way more come from that, and you're gonna

Functional Mushrooms And Gut Comfort

Sam 16:40

gain way more clarity about it and all of that moving forward. I'm so happy for you to go and do the plant medicine and the soul medicine. Yeah, definitely. It will help a lot.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Yeah, and that and that was like and that's why they say ego death, you know, kind of felt like an ego death, but an actual death. Yes. Oh, listen, I love ego death or actual dying.

Sam 16:59

I love studying and listening to NDE's.

Kim 17:01

Yeah, it's her jam.

Sam 17:02

Oh, I'm it's like a it's a pastime for me. I'm I'm so inspired by them and just like, yeah, but it's I mean, wow, I I can imagine coming back and just having a whole different, deeper level of gratitude for life.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Yeah, yeah.

Kim 17:16

And you just have to process it in your own way, just so you know, you have to process the NDE in your own time. And if not everything comes up, it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:28

Yeah.

Kim 17:29

Like let what will come up, but there is a muscle memory that goes along with having an NDE. And so you don't want to like push it off too much, but you also want to think about like don't be hard on yourself and don't uh in my opinion, don't overanalyze it.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Yeah.

Kim 17:47

If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Yeah.

Kim 17:49

And it's a reboot. There's like so many angles you can leave. Reset. Yeah. Yeah. But your your body went through the trauma.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

Yes.

Kim 17:57

That's what I mean by muscle memory. Your body went through that trauma and it's gonna fascia holds all of that trauma.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Yeah, my shit. Right.

Kim 18:04

So getting like we talk about like fascia release. Oh, have you got to do it? Oh, no, no. You gotta try, it's called the fascia blaster. You can buy it from home. It's like a hundred bucks. It's this really long. Um, it's not in my link or anything. Okay, I can put it in there, but it's this long like bar and it's got these ends on it, and you just rub out your fascia, and it really does rub out that trauma.

Sam 18:28

I go to a woman, oh yeah, she scrapes, she cups.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Yes, she does a lot of things. I'm bounting it down.

Sam 18:36

Oh yeah, oh yeah. And and what's wild about it is um I'll leave and sometimes like I'll itch everywhere for a long time because now there's all this blood flow and the self-release histamine after and the fascia releasing, like you'll itch sometimes after, but then I'll like go home and like later on I'll have like this major release. Yeah, like just this like uh somatic uh cry, like this deep wailing type of release, and you're like oh, it's in there, it's stuck in your fascia.

Kim 19:05

Yeah, it's like stuck in your fascia. You're like, I'm gonna go do another ego death real quick. Where's the bar at? Give me the fashion bar.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

You know what's the fashion

Mushrooms As Emotional Balancers

SPEAKER_02 19:15

blaster?

Kim 19:15

Yeah, yeah, the fashion blaster. It's really great. Yeah, it really is, man. Do you have like a place that people can tell their stories and communicate and be able to like talk to each other? You have a community that does this, right?

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Yes, you can fill out a forum online. It's mcr dsc movement.com. Okay, and then we kind of gauge like what you're looking for to figure out like you know what your next path can be. Like okay.

Sam 19:41

That's cool. It's a good, it's good. Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Well, was that like the that leap like from the big because obviously your body is like dependent?

Kim 19:50

Oh, I had a mini stroke.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Yeah, okay.

Kim 19:52

Okay, ammonita helped me, lion's mane and stuff, and I took all three um on a daily basis. Amanita, we we actually that's why we celebrate her so much because we were able to turn it into like muscamol and ibotenic acid.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Yeah.

Kim 20:08

And then my body wasn't completely stuck on kolanopin then.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

Yeah.

Kim 20:13

But I did it too fast. Yeah. I got off of it way too fast. And so I it was January 3rd, I had a mini stroke. And then in February, uh Jeremy had to help. By February, it was like I wasn't in a good, I wasn't in good shape.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

Yeah.

Kim 20:27

Uh, I had to learn how to re-hold my fork and shower, and my husband became my caretaker because I got off too fast.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Wow.

Kim 20:36

But it would have been a full stroke if I hadn't taken Lion's Mains and Amanita, Turkey Tail, Mayataki, Chaga. Like we grew chestnuts, uh, Rishi, frickin' artists, red artist is why it's such a great tincture for us because it's red belted polyporn, artist conch. Those two things saved my brain and saved my body.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

Dude, yeah, you your stack.

Kim 21:02

Oh, my stack was wild.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Your stack is like you got like things from different planets. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Kim 21:08

It's like it's an intergalactic stack. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like downloaded to us. Yeah. Not just me, downloaded to Jeremy too. Because it's not like we went into the woods. I mean, he's an engineer and I'm in medicine.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

I mean, the two of us combined is what made it ChatGBT wasn't out of here.

Kim 21:27

We didn't even have links in bio. Like I got myself in a lot of trouble over on the TikTok. Like I was in trouble when I went viral just because I talked about mushrooms. Yeah. We were showing people multiple different ways to grow and build a log home. We were homesteading and we were showing people how to heal their bodies with plant medicine. And then TikTok didn't like that at all. So I'm really shocked I broke out the way I did a few days later because I had just been violated.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Yeah, because you thought you were like, I'm done. Yeah, I was like shadow ban. Great. Yeah.

Kim 22:00

And then bam. Well, it wasn't about mushrooms. So any word that I said beyond that at that time, right? I was I went viral over the worms. Yeah. But

Three Catalysts For Life Change

Kim 22:10

oh yeah, I don't even, I mean, we don't to this day, I still can't look back and go, how did we know all of this? Like something gate, that's also probably yes. I had so many downloads in those moments, I've just never I don't even know how to explain it some days. It's crazy. And I've never run a business. And we've we've chatted about that before, about you having a business. And I've never run a business like this. I mean, I ran 25 medical colleges, but I wasn't like the main source of it all.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

Yeah.

Kim 22:39

You know, and now it's like, oh, so not only am I downloading about cleanses and I love talking about mushrooms, now I'm running a business.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

So now you're a farmer.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Oh yeah. Right.

Kim 22:49

I'm going to be a rancher. Yeah, tinctures. Yeah. So I think that's the craziest part of what I did is just the end result. Could you also share this the bird story? Oh, yeah. So I know we have portals over on the log home property. Um, there's three of them. I have this one space where I was doing a lot of mushrooms and like trying to channel, channel energy, and like I would see my past grandparents that passed.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

Yeah.

Kim 23:18

And I literally channeled everybody. And I was like, I need help. I need to know what's going on. And you could see the energy right there. And I'm like, if this is all real in the real realm, I need to know by having birds fly around me. I'm gonna keep my eyes closed. I listened to music, like it was like my jam. I would just sit there and listen to like the most subliminal messages and frequencies I could all day, eight, nine hours a day. This is all I did for eight to nine hours a day. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, I feel this wind. And I know Jeremy's up behind me working on this 26-foot-tall Taj Mahal carport. We're crazy builders. Anyway, so he's up there and he stops and he watches it all. And I have birds flying around me. Flying around me.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

Yeah. Literally like looking like a snow white. Yeah.

Kim 24:13

And I said and I said, that's because I said, if if this is real and like everything I'm doing is right, I want birds to fly around me. Little legitimately, that's why I said, and then when I felt I when I felt them done, it wasn't for very long, but it was enough that I could feel it twice. I looked up and I'm like, Did you see that? And he goes, What was that? And I'm like, I made him fly around me. I needed to know if this was all real. Because I've been in so many mushroom hazes for so many years. I know. You're like, oh my goodness.

Sam 24:47

Yeah. I mean, that story trips me out. And he saw them. He saw them. See, I think it's so. Sorry. No, you're fine. I think it's so wild, like, even this like moment. I know we tapped on it a little bit earlier, but to have this full

Near-Death Experience And Integration

Sam 25:00

circle with you coming back here and being a guest now on her podcast when she was listening to you, like back then. And I said it a little bit before, but I want to dive a little deeper into the mycelium network because I believe that even once we eat them and once we ingest them and they're in our body and they become part, you know, of us and our structure and our makeup, I think they're still working as a network. And they always bring other mushroom people to us, like they bring us together.

SPEAKER_04 25:29

Yeah.

Sam 25:30

And so, you know, for you two to connect, I think that that's so beautiful for you to be here. But you starting the microdose movement and community, right? You're a community builder. What is the mission behind and your intention behind um bringing mushroom people together?

SPEAKER_02 25:49

It was like, you know, kind of similar to when you had your awakening, right? It was it was 2020. Um, I was 29, I was in my like Saturn's return. And I was just like, dude, what am I gonna do there for the rest of my life? You know, I was in the entertainment space and it was just like a lot of low vibrational stuff around there, you know, just the industry. And I was like, man, like how do I do what I'm doing now, but with purpose and like actually giving people uh the power to, you know, do more with their lives, right? Um, and so then yeah, the mushrooms, the journeys, and then um, and then the property. Like I was in a mushroom ceremony and I was just like I was in Tulum, 29, and I was just like manifesting after I went through the pain and suffering, forgiveness, gratitude, the manifestation was like, you're gonna get a property, and I was just envisioning like people dancing, music, LED screens, and just like human connection. And I was like, man, this is like I see it. I don't know where it's gonna be, you know what I mean? I don't know like how I'm gonna do it. And then it just, you know, came to me. You know, that alignment comes, it resonates through the planet, right? Through the quantum field, you know, and then that's when you're like, boom, like things just align. Yeah, you start to make every yellow light. It's like, oh, yellow light, boom, make a mist.

Sam 27:15

Starts to open up, close up to the front. And you're like, I'm aligned today. The other mushroom people show up and be like, what do you need? What do you want? What do you want to do together? What do you want to create? Yeah, the mushrooms, the mushrooms. I'm so grateful. Yeah, I'm so grateful for them, man. They've helped me grow tremendously. They've taught me. They're such teachers.

Kim 27:35

They're so good. They're just they're loud in their own way. And it's so nice to be able to rely on them. Because I'm like, well, how does Amsterdam get away with well, the Netherlands? How do they get away with it? And it's so restricted here, which, you know, that'll lead us over here to the censorship that we both have experienced. You know, I have to be careful what words I use as well in worm world.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Yes.

Kim 27:59

You know, there's words I can't say either, which is wild.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

You're like, yeah, your social media's most wanted parasite.

Kim 28:05

Yeah, literally. Censorship is real. You have worms gone. Censorship. No, really do censorship.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Don't tell me I have worms. I don't have worms. I know.

Kim 28:14

If you if you're taking me down, you have worms. Like my frequency is vibrating. You wrong.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Oh, I know.

Kim 28:20

Oh man, I'll make worms come out of people after they've met me. I will. You meet me, and all of a sudden someone's like, I don't feel very well. And it's like, well, I have a cleanse for that.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

Yes. They smell me coming. It's true.

Sam 28:36

Have you done the paraphrase cleanse? Oh, yeah. Oh, you're on it now. Yeah,

Somatic Release And Fascia Work

Sam 28:40

we chat around. Amazing. Okay, yeah. I mean, have you seen any worms?

SPEAKER_02 28:43

I've yes.

Sam 28:44

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Like this, I did an enema this morning, and it was like after I did an enema, I like post-enema, I'm like, oh, it's all good now. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna, you know, this TMI, but I was like, I'm gonna, you know, I have some gas left over. But it was like squiggly monsters residue. Slimy monster goo.

SPEAKER_03 29:07

We go.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

And I was like, oh, I guess go to shower again. God damn it.

Kim 29:11

It's crazy. Isn't that wild? It's crazy. Yeah. There are so many worms. Yeah. They're so it's all day. It's all day. I see them all day.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

No, they're really, I mean, it's you're never gonna be purely wormless. You know, it's just like it's like a healing, it's our healing journey too, right? Yeah, it's just maintenance.

Sam 29:30

Well, if you're a human on earth coming into contact with pets, water. You came out of the womb with worms brilliant. Like it's like, no, you just need to cleanse to maintain.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

Yeah, I mean, it's a frequency too, right? It's like it's a frequency, it's a hundred percent frequency.

Kim 29:42

That's all I figured out was what frequency the ailment was and cre found an herb that matched that frequency. Yeah. And I think we've talked about that on your podcast, where like the sound of a opera singer's voice gets to a frequency where it shatters a glass.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

Yeah.

Kim 30:00

And that's all you have when you have ailments. Mushrooms are such a positive frequency, and they can go in and help with, you know, mental health and physical ailments. I take it for pain.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

Yeah.

Kim 30:12

And I'm I mean, I'm in pain often, and so I take mushrooms to help like channel in the Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

I mean, I feel like pain comes from the mind, right? It's like it does. Like your body's sending signals to the brain, you know. Um, so you know, yeah. I think like the frequency of just like it's it's like, yeah, like disease and parasites is it's just the low vibration feeding off low vibrations, right? So it's like, yeah, when you start to like heal and then you start to be around other people that aren't healing, it's like there's just like this is so loud, it's such a clash.

Sam 30:46

Like you, yeah, we don't vibe anymore, bro. You gotta rise.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

I like don't like your energy.

Sam 30:52

I'm not coming down to you where you're at. You must rise. Exactly. Or go away. They all talk to me. They all come and talk with me. I know.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

You know, heavy is the time. You're you're yeah, you're the worm queen. We're so open, like you're like we're I think naturally, like

Community Pathways And Resources

SPEAKER_02 31:10

your essence. I think our essences were just so open.

Sam 31:13

Well, I say heavy is the head of the worm queen's crown. I mean, you know, same with you. She gotta do with those frequencies and like pictures of people's parasites and species and waste all day, every day, and all that. And I'm like, listen, I'm glad I'm not the worm queen.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

It's like a trauma bond thing.

Sam 31:29

I'm so grateful she exists though. You know, she's helping so so many of us. Just like you're helping so many people with the medicine of mushrooms.

Kim 31:36

Yeah, and that's why I really wanted you on our podcast because you helped me so much when you're in it and you just need to know that you're gonna be okay and that the plant medicine is really doing what it's supposed to do because I didn't know really at points what reality was and what reality wasn't, because I was just like, I gotta survive here. Yeah, you know, and so just having you out there talking about it so freely, yeah, it just really allowed me to know what I was doing was the right things and that I wasn't really crazy, you know, because you can feel that way when you're in the thick of it and you're in a healing journey, removing that's deaden to that part of your mind. Yeah, the mushrooms and being able to find people that really love and cherish them.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Yeah, no, so thank you for that. I appreciate that so much.

Kim 32:26

Yeah, you're so welcome.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Yeah, yeah.

Kim 32:28

I'm so glad I got to tell you in person.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

No, it's it's like uh I feel like we're speaking to each other like in the quantum, just connecting, but like not really speaking words, but just a feeling.

Sam 32:40

Yeah, and also at that time you had no idea. I mean, you were getting your voice out there and your message, but you didn't know there was a woman in the woods dying listening to you that you were helping. Yeah, you know, like that's really beautiful. I think that's so beautiful. It's like so moving, it's so moving, you know.

Kim 32:56

It's the mushrooms. I had uh two other people that I had reached out to. One of them's Lauren, that we did colonics at her facility,

Stacking Amanita, Lion’s Mane, More

Kim 33:05

and the other one is I got to meet Jeremy Awakened.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

Yeah, yeah.

Kim 33:08

So I've been able to kind of come around to everyone and be like, listen, I don't think you realize what you've done to help and help my community and help our community grow. So I'm just again, I'm just so thankful that I was able to talk to you about it in person. And I remember when you put me on your podcast, I was like, Oh my god, this is such a dream come true because I'd watch and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

No, 100%.

Sam 33:30

Oh, that's so beautiful. Where can people find you or connect or tap in?

SPEAKER_02 33:36

If you want to know more about uh the Microdose movement, uh mcr dse movement.com. Um and you can fill out a form and we just get to more information to learn about you, about your journey, you know, where you're at. You need more information, um, and we'll just meet you where you're at.

Kim 33:54

We're just really grateful for you and your knowledge and how you are educating people because I feel like education and knowledge is such power that people don't have anymore. Yes. So thank you for everything you're doing. And it's very powerful. People are very lucky that they're the day and age we're in right now that we have this knowledge to give to people.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

You know, more than ever. Totally they do.

Sam 34:17

So true. It's that soul medicine. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Thanks for being a connector. Yeah. And thanks for being a guest on our podcast. It's been an absolute pleasure talking with you.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

Love you.

Sam 34:27

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