When the Universe Calls Your Bluff: Facing the Thing You Swore You’d Never Do

🚨 You know that one thing you swore you’d never do? The thing you’ve judged, resisted, and avoided at all costs? Yeah… about that. 😅

In this episode of Soul Talk for the Seekers, Jaclyn and Ashlie share their personal stories about how the universe has a way of forcing us to confront our biggest judgments. From resisting medical treatments to questioning deep-seated beliefs, we dive into:

🔥 How resistance & judgment are just fear in disguise
🔥 Why the universe pushes us into the very things we reject
🔥 How to shift your perspective and move through resistance with love
🔥 Turning an unwanted situation into a sacred, empowering experience

If you’ve ever found yourself eating your own words (hello, spiritual lessons in disguise!), this one is for you.

🎧 Tune in now and let’s move through the discomfort together.

You can find Jaclyn @ www.jaclynkaminskibodyandsoul.com
Follow me on Instagram or Facebook @jaclynkaminskibodyandsoul

You can find Ashlie @ www.ashlieallen.com
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Transcript

0:04

Welcome to Soul Talk for the Seekers podcast and channel. I'm Ashley Allen. And I'm Jacqueline Kaminsky. We're two intuitive soul sisters joined by synchronicity and spirit here to dig in. We want to invite you along on our journey where anything may come up, but if you consider yourself a seeker, you're in the right place.

Ashlie: 0:34

Hello, everyone. Welcome back. Jack and I today are going to talk about something that we've all run into. I don't care who you are. And her and I happened to run into this particular, I'll call it a thing for now, before we dive in. And we ran into it at about the same time, which isn't surprising because typically similar things happen to us at the same time. Um, Even if we don't know about it. So, um, we're gonna talk about this thing. And, to get into a little bit more detail, I want you to just, to take y'all back for a moment, I want you to think about something that you absolutely do not like. Like, not a fan of. Hardcore opinion about. Think about anything you have a very serious opinion about. Um, hardcore. Keyword. Uh, her and I both had some hardcore beliefs, and I'm saying had because we're getting forced into a shift there. Um, and we're going to talk today about how sometimes the universe puts you in those scenarios that you are determined to never be in so you can learn a lesson and move through. and understand the beauty in whatever the thing that you absolutely vehemently disagree with or don't like or want to stay away from can bring to you. So, I know I've been vague enough, let's just dive into what has actually happened. And we're going to get into how we're managing it, because again, we've all been there and the universe will throw you something that you didn't like, you didn't want, you want to have nothing to do with. And let's be real. Sometimes the universe just does that on purpose specifically because we were so against it. Jack, you want to start us off with what led to the onset of the beautiful universal, uh, Well, I'll call them thump because I feel like they kind of just fell down on us like giants. You know, brick. It's true.

Jaclyn: 2:46

So I'm going to actually share my story about it because it'll kind of like help you understand where I'm at, why, why this all happened. So it's funny yesterday morning. Um, I had a doctor's appointment, which is funny in itself because I didn't even know why I had the doctor's appointment. Like I showed up at the doctor, like it was on my calendar. So I was like, Oh, this is interesting. Didn't know that I had one, but right. So I just went with it. Cause you know, I really always trust. In the universe and the way everything works out. So I go and I get there and the woman says to me, well, who are you here to see? And why are you here? So I was like, Oh, I, I don't know. It just kind of showed up on my calendar and you guys told me to fast. So I assume it was like a well visit or something. So I laughed and she was like, Oh, no, here I see your, um, cholesterol's high and you're a one C. So I was like, Oh, she was like, we're probably just trying to check you again. So I was like, Oh, all right, whatever. So I like, you know what I mean? Just, you know, I really don't, um, I kind of, and this is true with anything that I have, like from a medical perspective, I just hold the vision and the experience of that. I, which is kind of funny. We just recently had a whole you were your own healer, but I hold that like I'm in perfect health perfect alignment like that. That's all I'm open for. So I don't really attach to story around illness or anything that could be wrong with me like I really, I really don't and try not to. Um, so this You know what I mean? It's interesting because I have been fighting when I was at the doctor, which then it brought me back to six months before that I had forgotten when I was talking to the doctor because he was like, listen, your weight. So since I had, I gained a ton of weight since my hysterectomy. Years ago. Um, and like now I'm in menopause, right? For sure. Um, I had a hysterectomy because of endometriosis, this whole big thing. So, um, he, you know what I mean? And he has wanted me to take, um, like the ozempic or the Wegovy shot, and he had said something to me probably six months to, like even a year ago, I think he said something too. And I have been adamant about. No, I am not putting anything in my body, right? Like, I truly, um, think about the things and like the chemicals and all that. Like, I don't want them in my body. Um, I just don't. And so this has felt so wrong and I have been resisting it, right? And so, um, and the last six months, right? Like it doesn't matter. I can eat healthy all I want. I exercise. It does not matter, right? Like the weight doesn't come off. I'm still, um, like my, my, my sugar doesn't come down, right? All of the things. So yesterday I'm there. And then he, he like, basically. When I found this doctor, I had said to him, I'm intuitive. When I come to you and tell you, you need to check things. I need to know that you're going to listen and Right, just send me for whatever test or whatever I need because I, I just feel something. So, um, he agreed. And then he said, and when I feel strongly about something, you'll listen to me. And I said, okay. Right. Like, and I can appreciate that. Right. And so, um, I do love that. Cause we have. He really is a great guy when it comes to that. So yesterday we're there. So he finally called me on my shit and he was like, um, so I'm going to be really forceful with you now and tell you that, um, like, this is something that you need to do and you need to take this shot. And I was like, no, it's like, give me, I think, isn't there like a pill or, and he was like, why would you want to use something that is going to, that still gives you side effects, right? That still gives you things. Why would you want to use something that's only going to work half of the way? If you're going to do it to your body anyway, why wouldn't, you know what I mean? You be doing like the actual thing that is going to help, which. I know. So, which is even funnier because then we were like, let's leave it up to the universe, which you got to love a doctor who can really get to you when he speaks to you this way. He's like, if your insurance company is like approving of it and everything goes through, then you're going to take it. And if not, then you're not meant to, right? Like, let's just go at it from there, which did feel way better to me. But I have been fighting this for. You know, a while and I have not wanted any part of it and like really, really against it because it feels not loving to my body. That's how it has felt to me. Um, which is not truth. That's judgment. So I'm, I've been judging, right? Like, because it's not good or bad. And, right, if, if I'm doing anything that's outside of love, that's judged. So, which I didn't realize how harshly I was judging it, or even that I was judging it. Um, and so, the insurance company approved it, like, within an hour.

Ashlie: 8:30

Okay, but go, walk, walk to the process here. Because, before you found out it was approved, what happened?

Jaclyn: 8:38

Oh yeah, before I found out it was approved, right, like, I was definitely struggling with it. I was in my shit. Um, and I was in my shit and not in my shit at the same time, um, because I truly do believe that everything is always happening for us to write, like, even bring us more, bring us more into alignment and power. And that is the truth, right? Like, I, I believe that with my whole heart. Um, So it's funny because I called you and I was like, No! I'm not taking the shot! And I said no! I was like, I really don't want to. Like, I was really against it.

Ashlie: 9:18

Um. But can I say, as soon as she calls me to tell me my doctor wants me to take the shot, he's worried about this, this, and this. Um, because he did, he had, he, for him, it was more about losing more than about losing weight. Like he had other things he won that he thought that it would help with. Right. And so, um,

Jaclyn: 9:37

Yeah. Like, like, right. Like diabetes. And like, he basically was like, when you're 60, do you want to be dead or alive? Cause that's where you're at. And I was like, wow. Harsh. Much. Um, I was like, shit. I mean, death. Why are we going there, buddy? Huh?

Ashlie: 9:52

Not easy. Yeah. And I got it. And so I have to say, so as soon as she calls me and she's like, he's, he told me I had to take the shot. He's worried about that. He's worried about diabetes, worried about this instantly. I got this image and this is how I get signs. Right. Is I got this image of her literally giving herself the shot and I was like, you're going to do it. She's like, well, the universe hasn't spoken yet. And I'm like, well. Um, I think it's going to speak in that you're going to get, you're going to be doing this.

Jaclyn: 10:20

I know the funny part is, is when I go back, I probably have always thought that and resisted it, right? Like I have been resisting it for years because I don't. I really didn't want to, um, Well, and I've been helping you resist it

Ashlie: 10:34

because I am going to be totally honest. I have, I have also probably been judgmental over, we're going to, we're calling it the shot, whatever it is, whatever version, whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care what you call it. Like judgmental mostly for me because I've like, you know, if you, if you haven't, if you, and this is, again, this is my. This is a limited, this is something where I recognize it's like, oh, that's a judgment, like, let it go, girl, um, but taking the easy way out, you know, all of that, but the reality is, if you have diabetes, if you are, if you are borderline, and that's what's happening next, and let's, let's be real, even if you don't, Not my decision to make it somebody else's life, somebody else's thing and whatever they're doing, whatever they need to do to get wherever, you know, it's their path. And I think so often we try to control our own path in a very directive way with that. And also usually leading with judgment. And then we also can, without even realizing that, try to direct other people's paths. And I'm guilty of it. Like, that's why I'm like, Oh, this was good for me to hear from you because It opened me up to realizing, oh wow, like loosen the grip, loosen the grip, Ashley. Like it doesn't, this is something that some people like, they're, they're going to be people that need, they're going to, I mean, and it goes back to that. There's nothing good or bad. There just is. And we have to allow everybody to be whatever there is looks like. Um, Especially when it doesn't, if it doesn't change or shift our personal lives, like judgment's just a waste of energy that could be going to something else.

Jaclyn: 12:16

For sure. And right. Like it really, and that's what it is. It's judgment. There really is no right, no wrong, no good, no bad. And yet here I was making something bad when truth be told, there is literally nothing that's bad. Right. That's just my perspective and my judgment. So. That, um, and it honestly, it like helps me see where I'm seeing judgment and other areas that I probably wouldn't have even seen. Um, that really needed to shed light on because I mean, I, I really am. I tried to come at everything from such a loving place with like such a big heart and I was like, shit. So, of course, within an hour I got the approval. Now the interesting thing is, is that. It's not ready because, um, Walgreens says that there is a problem with my insurance, which I'm not really worried about either, because the insurance company is the one who sent me a text saying everything was approved. And I was like, Oh, where did they come from? So, um, but I have decided before I even write, like, I'm actually going to turn this into such a sacred experience. And I am going to turn, and I know this sounds Interesting in itself, but I am going to turn my shots into like literally like this little sacred ritual that I will do every week. And I am going to like really be calling in the light of it. And I am going to like set, um, the intention of what it is that I'm receiving while I'm taking this medicine in. I am setting the intention for, um, Honestly, for all of it, that's, that's how I'm going to do it. And it is going to be filled with love and not like, I really was like, I need to change my energy around this because right. I'm the one who truly, um, is in. I don't want to use the word control of all of it, but right. Like my intention is exactly what I'm going to receive. So I am getting my shit right around it. So that's what we're talking about. Um, and I was going to say, I know you Ash have had like the same thing kind of going on yourself at the same time.

Ashlie: 14:41

Yes, I was experiencing something similar but different and the timing was very wild to me because just the day before you and I didn't really talk. We were, um, this, this has been a wild week for both of us, but, um, basically I had this moment where I felt so incredibly overwhelmed behind. I mean, the words are a little bit tough to describe, but, um, if you know me, you know, and you probably would say, Oh yeah, Ashley definitely displays some ADHD symptoms. Okay. It hasn't been defining to me. I've always seen it as a positive, you know, I'm going to make it a gift. It makes me creative. I have good ideas because of it. It allowed me to move quickly from one thing to the next and not get stuck on anything too long. Which. Honestly, that's the ultimate gift with it. And the reality is that the parts of it that are difficult, which is the prioritization, the, um, the little things becoming big thing. Sometimes for folks with ADHD, they might forget to pay a bill. And so it's not that they aren't paying their bills. It's because they literally forgot to pay it and it gets at the bottom of a pile. And I'm saying this, not because I've ever experienced it. I don't know what you're talking about, but, um, But it, it, that's a part of it is that sometimes that prioritization of things can become difficult. And I have been so against taking anything to support me in it for a couple of reasons. One, I'm nursing my baby and I was hardcore, not going to let anything get in the way. Of nursing my baby for a year. Like that was one thing that I was like, no, this is time. I'm not getting back. I can do anything to self manage in the process. And so meditation exercise, like those things help me. And I've been doing those things. Very, very well. And sometimes you can do all of the things just like Jack saying with like what she was mentioning with her weight. Sometimes you can do all of the things and your body doesn't respond or it doesn't respond in enough for it to cause change. And sometimes there's things we're blind to, there's things we're holding on to. And sometimes it's just that there's a lesson for us to learn. And at the end of the day, That's actually what I believe is happening here for Jack and myself. But I hit a wall the other day where it was, I feel so out of control of things. I feel like I'm not catching up. Uh, and, and y'all, my closet is full of Christmas presents I haven't begun to wrap. They are literally in boxes, almost hitting a ceiling. And my floor is covered in clothes in my, in my bedroom. I've got a pile of papers in my office that I haven't touched or looked at. And I'm nervous too, because what's behind, but that's part of, that's part of the ugly side or the dark side to some of these, and I'm not going to say, Oh, I, I am ADHD, but like, these are symptoms, right? Like these are things that can rise and it can flare up and it can be a thing. And I've dealt with them my whole life. And I've been able to be really successful having them and just moved through them, but I kind of hit this pivotal moment where it's like, this isn't any way to be like, this isn't who I am. This isn't like, I'm not okay with it. And I've been so against getting on medication to help me against it, against it, against it, against it. And similar to. And judgmental of self for like, no, I can't manage it on my own. I can't manage it on my own. And, and sometimes like you need to do the thing that you're afraid of doing or that you don't want, so you're not afraid of it. So it can lose its charge. And I do believe that's probably what's happening here with Jack and myself. Is we're being directed towards these things, um, okay, so then I got to finish the story because I, of course, just got detracted and started going down another path. This is another part of it, but, um, it happens to both of us. Yes, it happens to both of us, um, but by the way, another thing is that, and I also think this is a gift that's going to get so present in a moment that I'll lose track of time, but the problem is that then I lose track of time and then I realize what time it is. And good news, I'm very present in something and with people. Bad news is, you know, time is, time doesn't exist. I have a hard, I have a hard time with it, right? So, um, and I'm, and I'm also going to say another reason I've had a hard, um, This has been tough for me is that I have a corporate job. I have a job where I work with a lot of people. And, and a lot of times when you are in the corporate world, there's this like, no, you don't like those things aren't allowed. And by the way, where I work, that's not been the sentiment. I work in a very supportive environment. These are stories I've told myself and have. Written on my own, not because somebody else wrote them for me. I want to start there, but there, I think sometimes can be this sense of not, you know, we're going to avoid getting help because that's a weakness in itself. And I'm, I have fallen for that story. I have fallen for it. And your girl's not falling for it anymore. So I'm actually, I told Jack, I was like, well, if I can get an appointment with my doctor, like in the next week, like I'll, I'll do something right. And otherwise like, we're just going to keep struggling, whatever. But it was so funny because. They, in the same way on the same day, if she got this quick approval from her insurance, I get a cancellation that pops up with my doctor for Monday. At first

Jaclyn: 20:07

it was like, um, it was right two months out and it was in February, then it was January. Right. Like it was a, yeah. Which I loved even more. And I, it was great. Cause it was like, okay, it's just trust. Everything's going to work out. And it always does. Yeah. And

Ashlie: 20:20

you will. It's so true. I mean, when I was, I even asked him, can we put on a cancellation list? They said, no, you can't. The earliest you can get in is February. I'm like, well, let's try again. Then they say January. And then I thought, okay, you know what? I'm just going to assume one more thing. And I reached out directly to my doctor and I said, Hey. If you can call me today and they called me quickly and then they're like, Oh yeah, Monday, just got a cancellation. That's the universe working in your favor and giving us messages and signs that we're on the right path and that we're doing what we're supposed to be doing. So, um, yeah, we both have these things in our case, it was medications go figure that we didn't want that we did not want, but, um, I am doing, and we agreed together. We're going to take the same approach with these things that some of the symptoms that sometimes can. Drop in with these medications. Like we're not, we're going to create an experience where we're going to get the best from this. We are going to have the best experience, the most optimal experience for our health. We're going to have, we're going to see the best results. We're going to be the outliers that don't have the negative side effects. Okay. We're going to create that for ourselves. So we're being very intentional, intentional. About how we're getting around this just like jack said like she was like i'm creating this environment Where this is going to serve me so well and not only are we moving through our own judgments and creating I think what it's also doing for us is it's taking things that that I believe we probably had some underlying fear of that We were avoiding and we're taking it and and heading it straight on So we're knocking down yet another fear and my friends every time you take something you're afraid of and you knock it down You're creating A more aligned version of you that allows you to open up to more that's available to you. So that's what we're creating here. So if you have that thing that you've been avoiding, that, that, that thing in your closet, that, that thing that you don't like, or that you've especially found yourself being judgmental of. And that's usually my sign, right? Like if I find myself being hyper judgmental and look, I'm still working on stuff like. Still working on it. We can't have it all figured out at once. We're going to be working on it forever. But, um, how funny is it that we were both so against these things and look what came knocking on our door.

Jaclyn: 22:38

Oh, yes. And it's, I do love, right? Like it is, it's inviting us into to step into our power to allow more light, more of our, right? Like higher consciousness. It really is because we are transcending the fears and realizing, right? Like we're transcending the judgments. Could you imagine if we could live a life without judgment? How amazing. It would be.

Ashlie: 23:04

It would be so good. And, and most of it, the 99. 9 percent of that judgment, when you really look at what it is, it's judgment that you're thrown on yourself. Of course it is. It's all it

Jaclyn: 23:14

ever is. And it's like, how can we come at everything, honestly, from a less judgmental place and from more of a place of like, Right. Just like real love, like love. It all comes down to like opening your heart and like love,

Ashlie: 23:32

really. Yeah. Sounds so simple. And then you get into your, you get dropped into your real life and then it's, ah, darn it. It's not so simple. And we know you all feel that because we're literally feeling it right now. But, uh, how are you deciding to move through it? And what are you choosing for your story to be?

Jaclyn: 23:51

Yeah. Yeah. And, and, um, what are you choosing your story and right. And not like realizing that there really is nothing bad. Like nothing is bad. It's just the perspective that we put on it. So we just need to write, like pull back and shift perspective and be like, Oh, there's something here for me. Right. There's growth for me because everything is about growth. Everything is about like expansion. And that's just another step of what this is, which I love. And it is going to be beautiful. And I am super excited because we are totally going to, at some point we'll circle back and share, um, even how this went. And I probably will share too. Um, my story is about, you know what I mean? How amazing it is. And maybe I'll even like share like my intentional practice of like how I do it when I am really like intentionally setting and. stating, um, in case it helps anybody else. I love that. Yeah,

Ashlie: 24:58

I absolutely love that. It's time for us to move through these things in a different kind of way, I think.

Jaclyn: 25:03

Yeah, right. Just from a like open hearted nonjudgmental like it is what it is. And that's okay. And it's perfect. And we know that right it is for our expansion. And yeah, and come at it from a place of love and not from a place of right, like, like constriction and gripping and controlling and judging and letting all that shit go. So, um, yeah, so I think we can wrap here and, um, until next week, you all have a wonderful week and keep seeking. And as always, if you found this, um, helpful, please share and comment and reach out to us. Um, we are so grateful and we'll talk to you next week. Bye.

Ashlie: 25:51

See you then.

25:58

Thanks for hanging out with us. If you want to hang some more, you can follow us at Ashley Allen Inspired and Jacqueline Kaminsky Body and Soul. Until next time, keep seeking.