Unlocking Joy in Cooking: The Role of Your Subconscious Mind with Meagan Murtonen

What's Aliye cooking this week? 5 quick & delicious high-protein meals!
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Welcome to today’s episode, where we dive deep into the transformative power of the subconscious mind with our special guest, Meagan Murtonen, a certified mindset coach. 

Together, we’ll uncover how our hidden beliefs shape our cooking experiences and influence what we eat. Meagan shares her unique perspective on making cooking a joyful and effortless part of our lives, encouraging us to reconnect with our intuition in the kitchen. 

Tune in to discover how to unlock a new level of enjoyment in cooking and embrace a healthier relationship with food!

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In this episode you’ll hear:

• Discover what the subconscious mind is and how it profoundly influences our eating habits.
• Explore how your unique perspective shapes your behaviors and food choices.
• Learn how to transform your habits effortlessly by leveraging the power of your subconscious mind rather than relying on willpower.
• Uncover the keys to making meal preparation feel seamless and enjoyable.
• Discover a few essential steps to kickstart your journey towards embracing a high-protein lifestyle.
• Understand why recognizing and reshaping your beliefs about healthy eating is crucial for personal transformation.
• “Eat What You Want, Add What You Need”: Learn how to apply this concept to create a balanced diet that satisfies your cravings while meeting nutritional needs.
• Get practical tips for constructing a nutritious, protein-rich plate that fuels your body.
• What does eating “healthy” truly mean, and how can it differ for everyone?
• Discover why sharing meals with others is vital for our mental and physical health.
• Learn why purchasing produce at local farmer’s markets can be a more reliable and healthy source of food.
• Explore the significance of nurturing ourselves through wholesome, real food meals.
• Discover three different techniques to tap into your subconscious mind for personal growth.

Links:

For more on how to work with your subconscious mind, connect with Meagan on Instagram or Tik Tok. 

Links:

• Aliye's cooking videos: Watch now on Youtube
• FREE High-Protein Meals Training

Transcript

Aliye Aydin: Thank you for agreeing to be here today on the podcast.

Meagan Murtonen: Thank you for having me.

Meagan Eagles: Yeah. Absolutely.

Aliye Aydin: I wanted to connect with you because you are a certified mindset coach, which means you work a lot with the subconscious mind. And I know that's like a word people may or not be familiar with, a concept people may or may not even understand what that means and how it relates to food and cooking. So, can you explain a little bit more about what you do as a certified mindset coach?

Meagan Eagles: So most people think about mindset and they just think differently, just choose positive thoughts and that's fine and you can do that temporarily and then your subconscious kicks in. And so your subconscious is what runs your program. So when you think about your brain, this is of course what makes you brush your teeth in the morning without thinking about it because it's a subconscious program that runs in our mind.

Meagan Eagles: It's why babies learn to walk so easily because they don't have the conscious logic filter that says if you take a step you're going to fall. They only are in the subconscious learning stage from the ages of 0 to 7. So every child under the age of seven that's a subconscious learning stage. So you'll see the way they absorb information so quickly. You'll say something to your partner and then all of a sudden your child is saying it too and…

Meagan Eagles: you're like where did they learn that? And it's because it's something that you say all the time. My daughter plays with her dolls all the time and she reenacts things that I say and I'm like, " my goodness, it's just such a reminder that everything that from the world when you were a child in the ages of 0 to 7 are literally running your program right now." that's the power of your subconscious.

Aliye Aydin: And I think that's such an important thing to remember when we're trying to do something new or…

Aliye Aydin: change habits. People think it's about willpower. And I want people to understand that this isn't something that could be running since you were before 7 years old. kind of it's not your fault. I want people to be …

Meagan Eagles: Okay.

Aliye Aydin: No, don't be so dang hard on yourself." cuz this diet culture thing is just so much about guilt and shame and I had the dessert or I had the thing I shouldn't eat and I'm like there's a reason you're doing that your mind is right is it programmed or it's telling you or however that works Right.

Meagan Eagles: Yeah, literally. So, basically we each have our own individual model of reality. So, our model of reality is the way that we see the world. You could also call it your comfort zone. So, anything that is outside of your model of reality is outside your comfort zone.

Aliye Aydin: right.

Meagan Eagles: It's unsafe, right? Your nervous system is going to say if it's outside of the model of reality, then it's unsafe. And so, the things that we process, so our memories, our experience, those cause beliefs that form in our mind.

Meagan Eagles: That belief triggers an emotion based on what we believe and then that emotion triggers our actions.  So we want to take different action then we have to change the way that we feel about the belief right so if we believe I will never be healthy if you're facing health problems because something happened you were in the hospital when you were a child I'll never be healthy and so now as an adult you're like I'm trying to get healthy I'm trying to do this but when you think about it it's triggering an emotion of sadness despair from that time in the hospital which you don't consciously remember and so the thought is I'll never be healthy

Meagan Eagles: And so you don't take the actions to be healthy. The thought is I will never be healthy.

Meagan Eagles: And then you take the actions that start the cycle all over again. So if you want to break the cycle, you have to do something different.

Aliye Aydin: I love this.

Aliye Aydin: So the magic is doing something different. It seems like the magic though is first being aware of the thought and the emotion, And then how it's leading to your choice.

Meagan Eagles: Yeah, it's exactly. And like I said,…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: it's a cycle. I wish that I could show you a picture of it. there is actually one on my Tik Tok. I did a whole video of the model of reality with a diagram.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: But bring it back to the thought of that. So the easiest way is if you're looking at as a pyramid, right? You have your behaviors and your actions and then you have your identity at the top of the pyramid. And so if you could make changes at the top of the pyramid, then everything else trickles down.

Meagan Eagles: But if you're only trying to change those behaviors and those actions, it doesn't change because you don't see yourself as somebody who does those things. And I always say this,…

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: it's about just doing and being that version of yourself, not thinking that you're going to try to be that version of yourself. Okay.

Aliye Aydin: And that's why food and eating and cooking and all that is just such an emotional thing. I go back and forth with this. I feel the emotion and passion behind it. But then I became a chef and I've been living that my whole life, But then some people just don't really seem to care or don't feel that connection or think the idea is absolutely bonkers if there could even be this type of connection between what we eat and our food choices and all that. I just love this. Does it relate to one of your most recent Instagram posts?

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Aliye Aydin: I loved it. It's one of the parts of it. It said nourishing your body isn't a chore. Can you say a little bit more about that and this grand scheme?

Meagan Eagles: Yeah. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: Is it related to what we were just talking about? Right.

Meagan Eagles: Absolutely. So, it goes right back to that model of reality, If you see yourself as somebody who like you and I, we choose food that's whole. You cook what is in your house and you make that and you're not going out and you're not buying processed foods because it's just not what you do. I'm not saying that you don't occasionally stop for something because you're hungry. But your identity is that you're somebody who cooks. And so for people who are listening who are like, it's not my identity. The thing is we can change that, right? We can make ourselves be somebody who enjoys cooking…

Aliye Aydin: All right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: if you want to be that version, So it comes into how do you want to show up?

Meagan Eagles: But I always think about our future selves and nobody is looking at our future selves and seeing them eating bon bonss on the couch we're picturing them as our best selves. So how do you become your best selves? you start by eating whole nourishing foods because that's what's going to support you to do everything else.  Because you can't stand there and speak on stages and tell the world what you're teaching is so important if you yourself do not look like somebody who has taken those actions and embodied that version.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah, absolutely. So, does that go along with the effortless part? in one of your posts, something about making it effortless and…

Aliye Aydin: It feels effortless once what? your subconscious mind is on board. Is that what happens?

Meagan Eagles: Yeah, absolutely.

Meagan Eagles: So, what we do is we use subconscious techniques to access the subconscious mind. So, stuff like hypnosis, tapping, there is a technique that you can actually go back to the root cause of a specific belief. So, even though consciously you don't remember 0 to 7, it could take you back to a specific moment. We release that we take the learnings that your subconscious wants you to know and then you go forward with these new lessons on life. So that's like getting rid of limiting beliefs. there's a specific technique called switch pattern technique and you're actually replacing old behavior with this new behavior that you want instead. And see me I'm literally swishing it because what you do is you think of that old version but then you make this new version amazing in your mind.

Meagan Eagles: you see it, it's there, and you actually swish it out and make it explode big and bright on the screen. And so you're not worrying about the habits. this new version of you has all these new actions and habits she does, but she sees herself differently, this old version of you is gone because this person who gets up early in the morning, goes for a run right away,…

Meagan Eagles: has a healthy breakfast, whatever it is specifically to you that you feel would be the version of you that gets you to where you want to be, it becomes effortless. you're not trying to get up early. I get this question all the time. They're like, "How do you get up so early, consistently?" I'm like,…

Aliye Aydin: Yes. Right.

Meagan Eagles: "Because I see myself as somebody who gets up early consistently." my husband gets up at 5:30. I get up with him and I do it because it gives me time before the whole household is awake, which is just my daughter and my dog, but it's enough.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah, that's enough.

Meagan Eagles: And I need that time for myself. And I know that if I sleep in, which I could sleep in for another hour and a half.

Meagan Eagles: I don't do that because I know that to best support myself, I need that time and therefore that's my identity. Like I just do it.

Aliye Aydin: So, the benefit outweighs the discomfort in that way.

Meagan Eagles: Exactly. Because yeah,…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: there's times where in the morning, this morning, especially with the time change, I definitely wanted to stay in bed, but I didn't. I still got up. I had my coffee. I know I start my day with coffee.

Meagan Eagles: It's terrible for me, but whatever. It's one of those habits I'm never gonna get rid of. I tried once. I did the subconscious work. I was like, "Okay, I'm going to start with all these other things and I'm going to work out and I'm going to actually eat breakfast before my coffee." And I did all the mindset shifts and it was fine, but I was like, "I'm not enjoying myself anymore." I'm not Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah, right.

Aliye Aydin: And then you're like, "Wait, but I still want coffee.

Meagan Eagles: And you know what? my cortisol is fine. I don't like my stress levels good. My nervous system is good. If it was affecting me, I would change it. But I'm okay.

Meagan Eagles: But I do. I'm aware.

Aliye Aydin: I'd love that example…

Aliye Aydin: though because I think a lot of people do healthy things because they should, And you're very consciously being like, okay, I know these could be the issues with coffee, but I'm not experiencing it and I'm fine and I am choosing to continue to drink my coffee. And that choice is where the power lies, I feel like, What would I don't know is that the effortlessness that choice?

Meagan Eagles: Absolutely. Yeah, because it's not a choice anymore.

Aliye Aydin: It's not necessarily effortlessness. It's just that good feeling of Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: It just is, right? I mean,…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Where

Meagan Eagles: yeah, I could ch and like I said, I did it and then I was like, I could have kept doing it. Maybe it would have felt better, but I was like, I am actually not benefiting myself because now I'm getting on my bike to do my workout with zero energy.

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Meagan Eagles: I don't feel like this is benefiting me at all…

Aliye Aydin: Right.

Meagan Eagles: where instead I could come home after I dropped my daughter off from school and do a workout and have a lot more energy to put into my workout and it would just make me feel better overall. So balancing those, And yeah, it really is being an awareness like Where do you want to be and what do you need to do in between? And so we're talking about the way that we're eating. It's like okay, if I know that I see myself as this strong body, obviously I need to eat more protein. So where are you not doing that?

Meagan Eagles: where can you incorporate it? how are you going to become that version of you?

Meagan Eagles: Because overnight. It happens in action steps. And it's even to think about manifesting. you think you're going to manifest that version of you, but it doesn't happen without taking action, it has to come from somewhere.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: Even if you got a random check in the mail, you still have to walk to your mailbox, open it up, like cash your check. It doesn't just directly there. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: I think that is such a misnomer about manifestation, You're just sitting there on your couch and then it falls in your lap. It's like, right? No, there are action steps you have to take. So, action steps for eating more protein would be like learning what foods contain more pro Deciding which of those foods you actually like to eat. I mean, that's a big one. I think a lot of people again get stuck eating things they don't like because they think they should, that's a big one. So deciding what it is that you like to eat.

Aliye Aydin: 

Meagan Eagles: Yeah, 100%.

Aliye Aydin: I love that. Right.

Meagan Eagles: And I would look at, okay, so if I'm thinking I want to, eat more protein, I want to have the strong body. Why do you want that? and then doing that why? And then reversing that. So, when you go back to it and it's like, how do I feel about this? when I go all the way back to this is my why.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: What do I believe about myself? what's preventing me from actually eating that food? Or if you're sitting there and you're thinking tomorrow I'm going to We always say we're going to try to do things. Tomorrow I'm going to try to eat more healthy, whatever healthy means to you. And you're like, okay, I'm going to do it. And then you don't. And you're like, okay, I didn't do it today, but I'll do it tomorrow.

Meagan Eagles: And you either get stuck starting or you might start and then when you lose that willpower and that motivation, this is why we don't rely on willpower and motivation with my clients. It's what do you do? There's some you're self-sabotaging yourself because Because there's beliefs about your worthiness, about deserving to take the time to carve out to eat a healthy meal or to go to the gym and…

Aliye Aydin: right?

Meagan Eagles: work out, to leave your kids with their dad and go do something for yourself, I see this specifically with moms that don't want to give them themselves that priority, that self-care, or spend the money on the extra protein for themselves even though they need it, right?

Meagan Eagles: So, it's really getting into the deep nitty-gritty of why we're actually self-sabotaging oursel. And it has nothing to do with trying to start something. It's like, what am I thinking about this right now? when I'm thinking about this, how do I feel? And if there's any sort of negative feelings that float over you, it's like, why do I…

Aliye Aydin: All right.

Meagan Eagles: why do I feel that Where is that coming from? And again, a lot of these beliefs are so subconscious, you'll never be able to identify the root cause without going into the subconscious, but you can still try to loosen up the beliefs that you have around whatever it is just by really being in awareness and really thinking do I feel why am I actually not taking action? What's stopping me from right now going to the grocery store,…

Meagan Eagles: buying the things that I need, and putting a meal plan together, even doing some meal prep so it's easier?

Meagan Eagles: Those are all the little action steps to take, but that's like after the beliefs are changed, right? Because until you do that, you're going to keep hitting that spot where you are stuck in self-sabotage and you keep wondering why you're stuck there.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Aliye Aydin: So for that motivation outside of willpower, you need to have a deeper connection to your why, which is what I tell people, too. So I'm glad I'm on the right track. in my training that I do, I'm like, step number one to eat more high protein, know your why, because you're going to need it when you don't want to.

Meagan Eagles: Yeah. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: You're going to have to come back to that.

Meagan Eagles: Because sometimes you're like Because you could be and I do this too, I'll be like, "Okay, I'm into moving my body this week. I'm going to have all these plans, get all these proteins, and then sometimes I just want a bowl of cereal and that's all I want to eat." And you forget about it. But I love the concept of eat what you want and…

Meagan Eagles: add what you need. Have you ever heard of that?

Meagan Eagles: It was like this thing I've heard on TikTok recently. It's like, okay, so you want the bowl of cereal, eat the bowl of cereal, and then have something with protein on the side, have some cottage cheese on the side or whatever it is that you want to add. So it's like taking what you want. I want the bagel with cream cheese and then I'm going to add some slices of fruit on the side or a green salad or whatever it is.

Aliye Aydin: No.

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Meagan Eagles: So it's like you get what you really want to eat, but then you're also adding what your body needs. Yeah. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah, that's so interesting…

Aliye Aydin: because that's how I approach a plate of food. for this high protein thing, I wasn't just like carbs are bad, only eat protein. I was like, okay, if I put more protein on my plate that not like naturally displaces other things, right? So naturally, there's just going to be a little bit less rice because I won't want to eat as much. I won't be as hungry. So when I'm explaining it to people, I'm like, "High protein." And they're having a hard time. They're like, "So carbs are bad." I'm like, "No, crips are fat." They're like, "So, what's on your plate again?" I'm like, "Just more protein." My rice pile got a little smaller. My pasta pile, it got a little smaller. And now I just build my plates differently. And I love that idea because it's almost like circumventing might be the right wrong word. Almost tricking yourself in a way.

Aliye Aydin: You're like, "Okay, you can have the thing, but you also can have the protein thing, too. Love that.

Meagan Eagles: Yeah, totally.

Meagan Eagles: And I think about this all the time, especially now with the way the world is going between the US and…

Meagan Eagles: Canada. …

Aliye Aydin: Right. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: but I think about when you picture your grandparents, the ones who lived till they were 90, 100, were any of them thin? Probably not.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. drives me nuts.

Meagan Eagles: I know mine wasn't and I know my husband's grandparents are still alive and they're pushing 100 The thin thing is a lie. So first of all why are we eating the way that we're eating why do we feel healthy means that we have to eat vegetables and we can't have carbs and we can't have fat?

Meagan Eagles: It's like when you look back to the way our grandparents who lived till they were 100 ate,…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: they weren't eating processed foods,…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Right.

Meagan Eagles: but they were eating lots of fat. They were eating lots of maybe not so much protein like war times, but they were eating real whole nourishing foods and…

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: that let them live…

Meagan Eagles: till they were 100. And did you ever hear them I never heard my grandmother being my great-grandmother she lived till she was 93 I never heard her say " I'm so fat." Never.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: Not once. Do you think she would ever care about that? And also when you go through wartimes and starvation, you're like,…

Aliye Aydin: I was just going to say there's totally different perspective there.

Meagan Eagles: " I'm not going to waste food.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: I'm going to eat whatever I can." And instead of chasing all this food that isn't even real food in terms of being thin,…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Right.

Meagan Eagles: it's like thin is not healthy.

Meagan Eagles: And somewhere along the lines we were misconstrued to believe that when we look a certain way and that gets into a whole other conversation but the reason that when we are sick and we are not I mean aside from money and the financial gains that some people get from that when we are sick we also lose our power. We're not as in control of ourselves in the world. And that's exactly where they want you to be.  So you want to take your power back like fuel your body. Totally.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I think a big part of the thing we miss too is the joy in eating which I also think is related to the community of eating. we don't eat in community as much as we used to. We're more likely to sip this the smoothie in the car or go through the drive-thru. there's not the sit down and the dinners. and that's why they say, there's all these studies that say kids…

Aliye Aydin: who sit down with their families a certain amount of times per week show improved learning skill. There's all kinds of science behind sitting down to eat a meal with people with your three nights a week or…

Meagan Eagles: Yeah. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: whatever it is. I think it's so powerful. We just forget again back to the chore. We think even eating becomes a chore. It's like why do we even have to eat? It's like, no, you get to sit down and…

Meagan Eagles: Great. I know.

Aliye Aydin: relax and nourish your body and enjoy what's in front of you. And that's why for so long I was so hesitant to get into only eat this way and not that way type of thing because I wanted it all to be joyful, right? I'm doesn't matter joy this is supposed to be fun because of the scents and the smells and the textures. That's great. But then I also understand that you don't want to eat Doritos all day long because you like crunchy things either. Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: Totally. But that comes back to that eat food that's whole and not food that's in a package, right?

Meagan Eagles: You could make a Dorito at home.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: I mean, it wouldn't taste quite the same cuz it's not chemically created to make you crave a Dorito,…

Aliye Aydin: Right. Yes.

Meagan Eagles: but you want crunch and you want cheese. you can make that,…

Aliye Aydin: Totally.

Meagan Eagles: but yeah. No, the sitting down with community is a huge part. we sit at the table every single day.

Meagan Eagles: There's no exceptions. Even before my husband and I sat at the table together, we don't watch TV while we're eating. That's always been a rule. When I was growing up, we would sometimes have the TV on eating, but not that often. we did have a TV in the kitchen…

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Right.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: because my mom would watch it when she was cooking. and I'm a TV person. that's how I completely turn my brain off at the end of the day is I need to sit and watch a show. I love to read also, but sometimes I'm like this is too much for my brain. But I do not have the TV on when I'm doing other things like cleaning or…

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Aliye Aydin: Yeah, totally.

Meagan Eagles: whatever. I'm not like watching the TV and doing that.

Meagan Eagles: whatever I'm doing, I'm being present in what I'm doing. If I'm cleaning, I'm in my head and cleaning, right? And I think that's the same with food is having that.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: And not only that, but for your digestion, it's way better when you're doing other things.

Meagan Eagles: You want to know why you're bloated all the time after eating pasta because you're scarfing it down, you're watching TV, you're doing other things, you're standing up. there's so many ways to actually digest your food properly. sitting. Yeah,…

Aliye Aydin: Totally.

Aliye Aydin: That are simple that don't include ingesting a supplement even just Yeah,…

Meagan Eagles: totally. Yeah, we have everything that we need in real food,…

Aliye Aydin: totally. It's so true.

Meagan Eagles: but there's so much money in the world that dictates what we should or shouldn't eat.

Meagan Eagles: But I think it's going to be really interesting to see what happens with food as if this trade war keeps going and…

Aliye Aydin: I know.

Aliye Aydin: I agree.

Meagan Eagles: people have less money to spend on processed foods because I always see people in mom groups complaining I don't have money for this." That's like, what do you normally eat?" "Well, I need these packages." And it's like,…

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Meagan Eagles: you could literally go to the grocery store and get that for way cheaper if you just made it. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Aliye Aydin: No, I've been thinking about that too. It's interesting because I've shopped at the farmer I'm in California, So farmers markets are always available and people a lot of times especially with eggs they're so expensive and I'm like just wait that's not the reason I've been shopping because of the day that comes for an egg shortage, but I'm like this is a more stable place. I know the guy. He tells me where he gets his chickens. He tells me why he doesn't have eggs a certain day. And now I'm still going to him every week.

Aliye Aydin: He's now selling out of his eggs all the time.

Meagan Eagles: Yes. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: But this is part of the reason that I'm shopping here. This stuff is fresher. And I know what's going on. I'm just not staring at an empty grocery store shelf Okay, I guess I understand in theory what's happening, but why do some grocery stores have tons of eggs and some don't have any? And …

Meagan Eagles: Yeah. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: it's just more a direct way, I feel like, to get our food from the people that make it,…

Meagan Eagles: 100%. I Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: 

Aliye Aydin: grow it. Right, right,…

Meagan Eagles: I'm really leaning towards that in my business. that's the side of me that is me at home, I have a garden,…

Aliye Aydin: Totally right.

Meagan Eagles: a big garden and we do a lot of gardening and I cook everything from scratch and I make bread and I make pizza dough and all the things like give me a bag of flour and there's a lot of things I could do that got flour and…

Aliye Aydin: Right, right.

Meagan Eagles: eggs like even more.

Meagan Eagles: And so it's like I want to teach people that there's power in that femininity of nurturing,…

Meagan Eagles: but also that doesn't take away darker feminine power of standing in your presence and being magnetic and putting that out there to the world. And that's the beauty aspect of it even of why we want to look good because we can't deny it. we all want to look our best. …

Aliye Aydin: Right. Right.

Aliye Aydin: Right. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: everybody's like, " that's so vain." No, we all want to look our best. We want to feel confident. we want people to love us.

Meagan Eagles: That's our core desire is that all humans just want to be loved for who we are and we want to be our authentic selves and be able to put that out there to the world. we want that. And when you picture that version again, It's your healthiest self. You feel You're your most confident.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: And so there's that duality of showing up as that version, but then also it's like that softer feminine of nurturing and being in the garden and growing your own food and trading with your community.

Meagan Eagles: And I think it's going to be really interesting to see where things kind of go within the next little while. So yeah.

Aliye Aydin: Yeah, I agree.

Aliye Aydin: I agree a thousand%. So, if people want to like going back to the subconscious thing, if this is so new to them, what can they do to kind of start getting into this world of I relate with what you said by not being able to use my willpower, I'm always starting over.  Do they need to work with somebody or are there like things that they can do really simple to just get started to notice what's going on with their subconscious  Just great.

Meagan Eagles: So, I mean to really understand the beliefs, you'd want to work with somebody who can take you through some of those specific techniques, but hypnosis is a way to access your subconscious mind. And there's free hypnosis things all over YouTube. The only thing I would say with that is to be make sure you use a reputable source because also I could literally implement any suggestions that I want into a hypnosis.

Meagan Eagles: And if you're doing it while you fall asleep or you're not really that conscious, you might not catch me saying something weird. So that could happen. just so everybody knows.

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Aliye Aydin: Right. Okay.

Meagan Eagles: Use a reputable source. another thing on that side is subliminals. So again, same kind of concept as hypnosis except you can listen to it while you're moving around, So it's that subliminal messages that are underneath music. You don't hear the messages.

Meagan Eagles: It's just speaking directly to your subconscious.

Aliye Aydin: Yes. Right.

Meagan Eagles: So you can find those online as well. Again, with those that's even trickier because you literally can't hear the messages. So, you want to trust that they're good. tapping is something you can do on your own. There are specific methods to doing it, but even to just start, so you tap on your acupressure point. So, it's the top of your head in between your eyebrow and your nose almost. I'm trying to say where it is for people listening.

Aliye Aydin: 

Aliye Aydin: I have right?  Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: the side of your eye, like your temple area, underneath your eye, close to your nose, underneath your nose, in the crook of your chin, under your collar bones, kind of where your bra strap would be if you wear a bra. And how am I doing this? There's a couple more that I've added in recently. So, under your bra strap, and then you can finish off with your wrist. So, there's a few more that I do now, my knee tapping method, but those are the basic ones. and you can just eat.

Meagan Eagles: So, there's a whole way you can get rid of limiting beliefs doing this. Also, you tap on even though I'm feeling really unmotivated right now and I don't want to work out. I deeply and completely love, trust, and accept myself. And then you could tap on that. And when you think about that belief, you can say on the scale of 0 to 10,…

Meagan Eagles: how do I feel right now? How strong is this belief? I'm so unmotivated being 10. And you want to bring it down to a zero. Then what you could do is go around again and be like, I am so motivated right now, right? And start tapping in affirmations.

Aliye Aydin: Where are you?

Meagan Eagles: I'm so motivated. I can't wait to work out. This is going to make I feel so good when I work out. And so you can do that. So this rewires your mind,…

Meagan Eagles: but it also makes your nervous system feel safer to accepting the suggestion. So people don't really know why the energetics of this work, but it's the energetics, and the subconscious all working together.

Meagan Eagles: They haven't really had scientific studies why it works at this point. They're just for whatever reason it works and people get down to that zero and then it just all flows together.

Aliye Aydin: Okay. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: Right. I love that.

Meagan Eagles: I think in traditional Chinese medicine it's all about tea moving and…

Aliye Aydin: Right. Yeah.

Meagan Eagles: so when you tap on your energy point it's like you're physically moving your chi out of your body and around your body in the flow. And so I think it has to do with just you're displacing the energy that's stuck and stagnant and moving it around. So everything can I think there's a lot we don't understand because energy is everything. So yeah.

Aliye Aydin: There with you. If people want to work with you, how can they get a hold of you? What are your handles?

Meagan Eagles: So my Instagram is Megan Merrton do not domegan.

Aliye Aydin: Okay.

Meagan Eagles: An m ur t o n.

Meagan Eagles: And then my Tik Tok is that but with a dot in between my two names.

Aliye Aydin: That's the best way to get a hold of you and see what you're all about in terms of your programs and…

Meagan Eagles: Yeah, definitely.

Aliye Aydin: That's awesome.

Meagan Eagles: Absolutely. Yeah.

Aliye Aydin: I love that. thank you so much for talking to us about the subconscious mind.

Meagan Eagles: Thanks for having me. Yes, absolutely.

Aliye Aydin: And how it relates to eating.

Meagan Eagles: Thanks for having me. It was so nice chatting.