A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Wit and wisdom, some smart assery, and a Mother and Daughter questioning “Are we even related?”
A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Behind the Curtain of Reality and Deception and Conspiracy Theories S:1 E:25
First, you'll get a glimpse of what Bobbi and Jane talk about before the actual show recording starts with upfront banter!
Then we ask, have you ever had a day so chaotic it turned into comedy gold? That's exactly what happened in our latest episode of "A Boomer and Gen Xer Walk Into a Bar," when our dear Dr. Domain forgot to hit the record button, sending us into a whirlwind of laughter and chaos. Join us, Bobbi Joy and my mom, Jane Burt, as we navigate through a fascinating discussion on the evolving perceptions of conspiracy theories, extraterrestrial life, and the moon landing, questioning the limits of 1960s technology and whether humanity is truly alone in the cosmos.
Prepare to question everything you thought you knew about climate change and government experiments as we tackle these hot-button topics with our signature blend of humor and skepticism. We dissect the notion of chemtrails and recount historical government experiments, urging you to seek your truth in an age of information overload. With a nod to historical events like Operation MK Ultra and the Tuskegee syphilis study, we explore the potential for ongoing governmental control and manipulation. You are reminded that we are not experts, scientists or even qualified technicians; we just like to talk and laugh!!! So, grab a seat and a drink as we unravel these mysteries, challenging you to reflect on your own beliefs and embrace the delightful chaos of curiosity.
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okay, you're ready, we're ready. When you are all right, stand by. Stand by because I'm watching him closely. Bobby, we okay, we sound good, but I'm watching him closely because that was a shit show, that last time so I can. I like I can hear the music, but I still want you to like, signal me when you want me to start talking, because yeah I'm a little retarded, so well, I know, I know, you know that's all that drugs that I was on when I was pregnant with you.
Speaker 1:I thought it's the drugs that I was on.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the real story right there, because I wasn't on any drugs. I thought you were going to say the drugs that I was on, that's the real story right there, because I wasn't on any drugs.
Speaker 1:Welcome everyone to today's show. A Boomer and Gen Xer Walk Into a Bar, coming to you from the Rabbit Run Studios because we are on the run. This is where you, as a listener, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smart assery and a mother and daughter questioning. Are we even related?
Speaker 2:My name is Bobbi Joy, my co-host is my mom, jane Burt, and for the next little while we are here to entertain you, entertain we will because, uh, we have quite the topic for today, but we want to talk about our last faux pas that occurred in the studio, because we're gonna laugh about it one day, uh, like today. But uh, so, on our last podcast that we went to record, uh, dr domain handles all of the equipment in our studio and so he takes care of all the sound bites, he takes care of all the recording, he takes care of all the editing and everything. All the hard stuff, all the hard stuff. We do the easy stuff, and so we did an entire show. Got probably three quarters of the way through and I look over and see the most terrified look on dr domain's face and I just said, oh my gosh, you didn't and he was like.
Speaker 2:I mean, he was like a forlorn dog looking at me as he pushed the record button because he hadn't hit record yet.
Speaker 1:Now to kind of stick up for him. You know we had had some technical difficulties. You're on the road, I'm back, you know, in Iowa. So it's hard doing these shows it is hard, you know us in different parts of the country, but at the same time I mean man we were both so mad, oh my gosh Dr Domain. But but, being the ever professionals we are, we picked it up and ran through it again.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, after we panicked I mean, it was like panic setting because we were like, oh my gosh, where did I leave off? Where did he? You know, because he recorded like the very, very beginning and then didn't record the rest of it and we were like, oh my goodness, where did we leave off? We don't even know what we talked about and, to be honest with you, the stuff we talked about didn't even make the show, because it was really good. That was the really good stuff but anyway, it was.
Speaker 1:So dr domain, thankfully, thankfully, the curse words that we all said to him, uh, after finding that out, didn't?
Speaker 2:make the show either. And your threat to him I mean, you know you threatened his life, so that was kind of a bad thing too.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, just go to sleep, just go to sleep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was funny, it turned out fine and we're just so appreciative of Dr dr domain and how he takes care of us, he's so and puts up with us, and puts up with us, because that's the biggest part right there. Anyway, I just had to share that with our viewers because, man, we were, we were sweating it there for a while. So anyway, bobby.
Speaker 1:I hope it's listeners, because I look like crap today. What did I say? What?
Speaker 2:did I say? Did I say viewers? Oh my gosh, yeah, we don't have any viewers. Thank God for that. So anyway. I mean, we can see each other, but they can't see us, yeah, and there's times I turn my screen off because, quite frankly, bobby, you know, some days you don't look that great. Frankly, bobby, you know some days.
Speaker 1:No, let's talk about.
Speaker 2:Somebody decided to go through an entire podcast episode as a velociraptor, so that was kind of hard to talk to. That's true, that's true, okay, true, okay. So we do have a topic for today and we're kind of excited about this topic because, um, there's been some changes in the administration, of course, and, uh, there's been some release of some documents, um, pertaining to some of the things that we thought were, what, bobby, conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories. Do your friends tell you that you're a conspiracy theorist? Do they go? Oh my gosh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1:Well, thankfully I have so few friends that I surround myself with that. We just kind of egg each other on because you know, what I say is I always say what's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? And it's about six months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if not less time. I always say two weeks, yeah, two weeks of truth will come out and you guys will be going oh, maybe they were right after all, but no one is going to say that out loud, right, right For me. And does it insult you when they tell you that you're a conspiracy theorist? No, not at all. It used to. It used to really kind of bother me because I thought, you know, you think I'm just talking out my butt, and that's not true. I mean, we read a lot, we look up a lot of stuff. We don't really focus on the Internet or the local news. When we're investigating stuff, we're typically trying to find the down and dirty documents. You know, we're trying to find where the truth lies somewhere.
Speaker 1:And you know, for me they can call me crazy. That's cool. For you, I think it's more of an age thing where they're like you know she's getting on in years.
Speaker 2:Maybe she's just kind of a little senile, she's. She's talk about talks, about all these conspiracies and you know, just doomsday stuff. And I don't really talk about doomsday stuff, I'm just. You know, I'm being a realist here, but conspiracies though. So you know, you know, technically, when people question things, or they ask a lot of questions about what's going on either in our government as it relates to science, or you know some type of discovery or um, you know just just news in general, if we question things, it's almost like people go you know, we heard that it was caused by this, this and this, and you kind of go, yeah, but that doesn't add up. And they go oh well, you know, now you've got some conspiracy theory. Just because we're questioning things, you can call me whatever you want, I don't really care Because you know it, it's not gonna hurt my feelings either one of them.
Speaker 1:So I don't have any feelings anymore, so you're just dead inside, you know.
Speaker 2:but, um, when, when you know, we ask questions and we do, we ask a lot of questions, and man, I would encourage everyone to ask questions about why do we ask a lot of questions? And man, I would encourage everyone to ask questions about why are we doing it that way? How did it happen that way? Does that make sense? Does it, you know, fall into some type of um, you know, logical order that if this happened, then this would have happened and I, I would just, you know, I just question everything, and if that makes me, you know be a conspiracy type person, okay the media.
Speaker 1:Number two you don't trust the government, okay, right. And number three is you've got to go further than the first thing that you see, right. So you got to go deeper. You have to do your own research. You have to, you know, actually dig into things if you want to actually know the truth.
Speaker 2:Right, because a lot of that stuff is just really surface information. It's really either what you know, the media, or what the powers to be want you to know, and that's it. And if you take it for face value, boy, I just I feel for you. If you take it for base value but yeah, I totally agree with you is you have to ask those questions, especially to you know the media, to the government, to those who are supposed to be taking care of us and giving us information. So I'm going to let you lead this off, because I've got a few here and dr domain and I have disagreed on a couple of these pretty adamantly, but what's one, what's one that you have found to be true?
Speaker 1:well, my favorite one. My favorite one is kind of a recent one, and that is the UFO files, the black files. Okay, the fact that they have now released all of these witness accounts, all of these files, all of these military records, you know that, guess what? We're not alone in the universe, duh.
Speaker 2:So you think that there's more than just us out there? Absolutely so. You believe in aliens? Absolutely okay, and I'm not talking about those that are just coming across the border, I'm talking about those out in outer space, right?
Speaker 1:I say I, I I say you know non-human entities. Okay, that way, let's put it that way.
Speaker 2:And I got to be honest with you. I've always said for us to think that we're, you know, I mean because the space is so massive. Right, I mean it's forever.
Speaker 1:It's never ending. It's never ending.
Speaker 2:And for us to think that we're the only ones out there. I think that's pretty arrogant.
Speaker 1:Very narcissistic.
Speaker 2:You know, I truly believe. You know in god and you know that, and I believe in how we were, how we were brought to be and how, uh, he created us. I truly believe all that. But I gotta be honest with you. I think he created some other stuff right. I think we're kind of probably, you know, we're gonna put them on on the short bus earth over here because it's like we're the C plus project that gets put on the shelf.
Speaker 1:That's right. We didn't get funded.
Speaker 1:So we're on earth, but I think it's pretty arrogant to think that we're the only ones out there there and people for years and years and years called these people insane, to the point where they were chastised by their community, by their families. They were driven out of the places that they lived because they spoke the truth on what they saw. And now it comes out that guess what? Yeah, they saw it. Not only did they see it, we have video evidence, we have military personnel who have come in with their own eyewitness accounts. We have just pages and pages, hundreds of thousands of pages of documents that were once classified.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And now all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh hey. And the funniest thing about this is they released it in a point during humanity that we were in such turmoil in everything that was going on in the world that they released this stuff. And we're just like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And that was it. Yeah, it didn't even take the attention off of anything else it didn't.
Speaker 2:But you know, I remember watching some documentaries related to this and what is it? Area 51. Is that correct? Yeah, and some of the guys that were on these documentaries that really didn't want to be identified because of the harassment and stuff that they had received, they were very high level guys. These were not, you know, these were not just broom pushers in the military. These guys were, you know, admirals or they were colonels or they were you know what. I don't really know all the ranks, but they were pretty well up there and yeah, they were colonels or they were you know what. I don't really know all the ranks, but they were pretty well up there.
Speaker 1:And yeah, they were highly respected. Yeah, and they were and what?
Speaker 2:what happened? The government just tried to discredit them Right, and they had no reason to lie.
Speaker 1:That's just that they had no right. There was nothing, there was no end game.
Speaker 2:Right, they weren't getting paid anything. So why would they lie and the ridicule that they went through, why would you even bring it up, unless you were getting millions and millions of dollars? Well, they weren't, and yes, and so, yeah, it's a sad situation. So I don't have any real proof, but I'm waiting to see some more proof, uh, from people. And the problem is now we have ai generated items, um, you know, videos and pictures and things like that, so it's hard to tell what's true and what's not true. So, right, my own eyes, my own eyes.
Speaker 1:So so what? What's one of your?
Speaker 2:knew this was coming, the moon landing. And this is where dr domain and I, he, he, when I first told him, I think that was going to be the end of our relationship completely, because he was like, oh my gosh, you can't be serious, he goes. I wasn't signing up for this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wasn't signing up for this. And so, you know, he looked at me like, oh my goodness, you know, are you? I think he really thought I was kidding, Because the circus came to town. So what I did was since we were just starting to see each other is I kind of blew it off. You know, he was so adamant that it happened that I kind of went.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, so that's your stance. Is that we did not land on, we did not?
Speaker 2:we did not go to the moon, we did not land on the moon, we did not do any of that business on the moon. So I guess mine's different about that, because there's so many questions. First of all, I can't even get a cell phone. I can't get my cell phone to reach you when I'm driving through the mountains of georgia, but yet, no matter, we can reach these guys on the moon and we can talk to them and we can see them.
Speaker 2:And who's taking all those pictures out there? Who's out there running the camera? And how did that person get there? I mean, did they come out a week later, a week earlier, and survey the area and make sure? You know, this is where we're going to land them, right here. We're going to put the flag right here and let's make sure that nothing moves. And you know, whatever else, I got a good angle over here and you know the lighting's good. Come on. And you know the spaceship itself that went up was nothing more than you know, a can. I mean, it was like a green bean can that went up based on everything that we have today, and yet it made it to the moon and back come on, okay, all right, do you want to hear my theory on that?
Speaker 2:yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So my theory on that is we did not land on the moon when we claimed that we did. Okay, I believe that our first moon landing was a production, and the reason that I believe that is because we were in the middle of a space race.
Speaker 1:You know it was a very volatile time, yeah, with Russia, with, you know, the Cold War was coming, things like that and in order to propagate and advance our own space travel and our own space program. I believe that the first moon landing it was a production and we did that to further what we have now, when you say it was a production, you mean a fake production.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, yeah, it was staged.
Speaker 1:Now I do believe that since then, yes, we absolutely have explored that. I believe that we have not explored the dark side of the moon for various reasons that you guys can look up if you'd like. Um, mainly, it's because we cannot get, we can't get signals to anything on the dark side of the moon. I didn't know if you knew that or not. The moon faces us one. It doesn't rotate like the earth does, and so we see one side of the moon. If we were to go to the other side of the moon, we would lose all communication. We would lose all you know satellite imagery, things like that. So I believe that it's not feasible for us to go, but I do believe we've been there. I believe that we have been there, but I don't believe that it was when they said it was.
Speaker 2:I believe it was much later so, dr domain, do you think that one of the towns in georgia is called the dark side of the moon? I can't get a signal over there. He doesn't even have his mic on. He's got his headphones on, but he doesn't have his mic on. He doesn't want to talk about this because I know it just irritates him to death, because he truly believes that that was all real and I'm like okay, that was a puppet show. As far as I'm concerned, so that's, that's one of mine.
Speaker 2:What's another one for you?
Speaker 1:another one for you, uh, another one for me that I have explored very deeply, unfortunately, is a combination of um I'm I'm sure that you've heard of it. It's called the uh paper operation paper clip and also it's in combination with the boys from brazil. Have you heard of that?
Speaker 2:No, no, tell me and the listeners what it is that you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Operation Paperclip. So in 1945, when World War II was coming to an end, the Joint Intelligent Objectives Agency, it was given authorization to offer 1,500 German scientists, technicians, engineers, not only from Nazi Germany but from other countries, to come over to America and have employment you get citizenship, things like that so that we could bring the basically what they've done in Nazi Germany to America to kind of work with our scientists, to to further our own scientific exploration.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm going to stop you for just a minute, because the death of Hitler, that has always been questioned, right?
Speaker 1:Right, and they have proof that he didn't die in that bunker.
Speaker 2:Right, so they didn't find him anyway.
Speaker 1:Now, that's part of the boys from Brazil thing, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So I wondered because I remember watching a documentary about what they did not find with Hitler and then all the scientists that they brought to the United States. So I do know what you're talking about. I just did not know that's what it was called.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Operation Paperclip. It actually was a real thing. And what they did is the United States actually forged documents for these scientists because they said, you know it was a thing that said if they were proven to be part of the Nazi regime, they were not allowed to come to the United States for this. So they actually forged documents, forged entire histories of these scientists and destroyed all of the evidence that said that they were with the Nazi regime or they were working for the Nazi regime so they could bring them over to America. Now that's all been proven. That's all been proven. Now the boys from Brazil part is part of the, where it has been proven over time that more than likely Hitler did not die in that bunker.
Speaker 1:What he did is and they actually have these sites down in Brazil that were Nazi sites- they were buildings and entire camps where they brought the top ranking Nazi officials down there to escape the alliance from, you know, the allied troops from coming in and killing them. And there's an entire population down in Brazil that speaks.
Speaker 2:German. You know what, gosh, I wish. I remembered that documentary now because that was all part of it too. And this is going to seem silly, but Mysteries of the Abandoned. Have you ever watched that show? To seem silly, but mysteries of the abandoned have you ever?
Speaker 2:yes, they found one of the buildings some of the buildings, and they even found some of the buildings that they felt that the germans were still living in, because they couldn't get up to those and um this I'm going to bring this full circle back to the aliens, because area 51 was at one time considered um part of the areas where the scientists from germany were brought, and that's why they were seeing so many um alien-like people, because these german scientists were still doing experiments on humans on humans, so that was.
Speaker 2:That was kind of all part of this documentary man. I wish I could remember what the name of it was, but yeah, so gosh, yeah. So a lot of that's already been proven, though, and what's funny, though is, nobody believed that I mean nobody.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people even today who would not believe that our government, you know, did such a thing, but it was kind of like well, you know we're concerned about beating them, so we'll just join them, we'll bring those scientists over here, we'll have them working for the United States and you know we'll be safe that way and that was kind of, because a lot of people they trust in our government and whatever the government says they believe, and that kind of rolls into my next conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1:But I'm gonna let you say one, because this one's kind of different. It doesn't have anything to do with nazis. Climate change, oh dear dad. So what about climate change don't you believe in? I believe climate changes.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's about it. I do not. You know, the topography of the earth has changed so much over the thousands of years and long before you know industry, long before man was ever, before man was ever contributing to the air quality. I do not believe that giving money to the government to put a group together to investigate or to take a look at climate change is really going to change anything. That's just an opportunity to get your money, because money is not going to help anything. Oh, that's just an opportunity to get your money, because money is not going to help you with the climate change.
Speaker 1:So you believe in the shifting of the polls, which has been happening for millions of years? Right, I mean, I think that's yeah, yeah, okay, and that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I believe in climate changing. I just don't believe that we as human beings have had that kind of impact on it and I don't believe that we have the opportunity to change that roller coaster. And no matter how much money you give to the government to put a committee together, it's not going to make any difference.
Speaker 1:Well, I agree with you let's quit giving money to the government for this, because why are we doing that? They're the biggest backers of big oil industry anyway. But I do believe that there are some things that we have done that has seriously altered that trajectory. I'm not saying that it's changed it completely or it's the reason that all this is happening, because I do believe in the polls shifting and things like that, but I do believe that there are things that we have done as a human society, as an industrial, especially since the industrial revolution, that have attributed to some really shitty climate actions contributed right, contributed, yeah, so, uh, then we could talk about chem.
Speaker 2:What are they called? Chem? Chem streams or chem trails? Chem trails you think that has anything to do with our climate? Do you think that's changing our climate? Because there is a theory out there that these chem trails are being, you know, are actually changing our weather, our climate.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay, well, three big things. Number one anytime someone yells chemtrails, I look up and all I see are the exhausts on a jet. Okay, like, let's not be stupid. Okay, they've owned up to it of scientific research where they do seed the clouds and things like that to try to get more, more range, rainfall, things like that, uh, during droughts and in you know certain climates. But these are all scientific experiments, these are all things that you know. The the people who claim this think that we're all in this glass bubble and the government's controlling every single thing that happens. No, well, are we experimenting?
Speaker 2:yes, yes we are experimenting on us more than they need to be. Yeah yes, I think the government is I think the government does use chemtrails to for experimental reasons on human beings, um. I believe that we have radio frequencies for that same reason um yeah, the harp institute?
Speaker 2:yes, and also, um you know, if we don't think the government is controlling anything. I mean, wasn't it the cia that brought in uh lsd to the united states because they wanted to experiment on mind control and they thought they'd just give it to the young people and see if they could determine?
Speaker 1:if it was going to work for mind control. Yeah, that was called Operation MK Ultra.
Speaker 2:Actually I know all about that one, yeah, so don't think that our government doesn't experiment on us and we don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1:But we? I mean, if you want to go ahead, let's talk about one of my favorite government experimentations that everybody thought was this big conspiracy. Uh, let's talk about the tuskegee syphilis experiment. Let's talk about that one. I've never even heard of it. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Oh, my goodness. So let let me educate you.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're going to have to make it fast, bob, because we're running out of time, so in 1932, the U?
Speaker 1:S public health service conspired with the Tuskegee Institute to create a phony syphilis treatment program. The experiment, which involved lying to almost 400 African-American men who had been diagnosed with syphilis, was initially only supposed to last six months, but it took until 1972 before the public became aware of the research and the government was forced to investigate and shut the program down of the research. And the government was forced to investigate and shut the program down. For 40 years, these 400 men were given dangerous chemicals and offered painful and unnecessary medical procedures under the guise of actual treatment.
Speaker 2:You didn't know that I did not know. That one, bobby, I did not know that one.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I did not know that one.
Speaker 2:I did not know that one. Oh my gosh, I mean. So again, you know our listeners are going what the hell? I want people to look this stuff up. I really do. I mean, the reason we're bringing it up is because we want people to look it up. We want you to educate yourselves. I don't trust the government about anything. And when somebody throws something out and they go, oh you know, the government would never do that to us. Want to bet?
Speaker 1:They did, they did and they still do. I want people to go down these rabbit holes so hard they don't see daylight for a week. Yeah, because this stuff is insane.
Speaker 2:So a lot of our listeners, I'm certain, have conspiracy theories of their own. They've got to have you know whether it's local, whether it's something very minor, or whether it's something that affects the country or even, you know, the earth.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and I have 100 more. I have 100 more. I could pull right out of my butt right now if I stood up.
Speaker 2:I'll bet you could, I'll bet you could, but I think that's probably all that we can do today. I mean, I had a big list of them too, but you know what? We just we're running out of time.
Speaker 1:I'm sure they'll come up in other podcast episodes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure they will. So I hope everybody had a good laugh with us and some of you started thinking what the heck? And we would ask you to start looking at conspiracy theories and look at what has come true, because even though you call us that, give us a couple of weeks You're going to find out. The truth is there, and I'm just going to throw this out there the JFK assassination files. Somebody's going to be seeing those pretty darn soon. So, anyway, that's all we have for today.
Speaker 2:We really appreciate y'all joining us. We get more viewers from you, and so the more you talk about us, the more you share the information. You follow us, you like us. You send us information. That helps us a lot. We would ask you to send us questions or send us a topic or anything that you want us to talk about, because we'll be happy to do it. If you want to get a hold of us, you can go to our website, which is Boomer and Gen X are walking to a bar official and you know, go check us out. Otherwise, our email is always at the bottom of the page. Under whatever platform you go to to listen to us Spotify, you know whether it's iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2:It's all there. So please contact us, tell us how we're doing. We'd love to hear from you Other than that. I think that's it for today, bobby, and so I'm Jane Burt and I'm Bobby Joy, and you're stuck with us. Peace out Later.