A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Wit and wisdom, some smart assery, and a Mother and Daughter questioning “Are we even related?”
A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Unseen Energies: When a Mother and Daughter Confront the Paranormal and ask "Do You Believe in Ghosts"? S:1E:36
What happens to our energy when we die? Does it simply disappear, or does it transform into something else—perhaps even something we might recognize as a ghost? Mother-daughter podcast hosts Jane and Bobbi Joy tackle these fascinating questions in this captivating exploration of the paranormal.
The conversation begins with some surprising statistics—a solid majority of Americans believe in at least one paranormal phenomenon—before diving into personal experiences that defy logical explanation. Bobbi shares the remarkable story of her daughter repeatedly playing with "Kitty," a woman the child described in perfect detail as Bobby's grandmother, despite never having seen photos or heard stories about her. Jane recounts several chilling premonitions, including the unforgettable moment she felt a presence pass through her, only to receive a phone call thirty minutes later confirming that exact person had died.
The conversation weaves between skepticism and belief, science and spirituality, fear and fascination. Whether you've had your own unexplainable encounter or you're simply curious about what might exist beyond our understanding, this episode offers both compelling stories and thought-provoking perspectives. Share your own ghost stories with us—we're dying to hear them!
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Welcome everyone to today's show. A boomer and a Gen Xer walk into a bar, coming to you from the rabbit hole studio, where you, as our listener, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smart assery and a mother and daughter questioning. Are we even related? My name is Bobbi Joy and my co-host is my mom, jane, and we are here to entertain you for the next few minutes at least. How are you, mom? I'm good, bobbi, thanks for asking. How are you? I'm good. So I'm walking down to the studio today and I noticed that you have something new in your living room. Oh my goodness, yes, I do.
Speaker 2:And I'm certain that you have some comments about it I do so let's tell everybody what you did so what did you do? I had a bigger kind of pit um modular, modular um sofa in the living room couch davenport in the living room and we got rid of it and we got a regular sofa, leather sofa, that's got the recliners and all that business. And you made some smart ass comment about it.
Speaker 1:Well, I did, because you know the modular couch I mean could maybe not so comfortably, you know fit all of the grandkids and kids when we come over for holidays. And now it's you go in there and you look and it's saying guess what, kids, you're only here for dinner and get out because there ain't nowhere to sit. There ain't nowhere to sit anymore.
Speaker 2:Tick, tock yeah, uh, I'll give you dinner, but, uh, you know, stand for dessert. How about that? I don't need anybody getting comfortable. No, actually, um, you know we have a low profile couch in there or you know pit kind of thing, and I just it wasn't comfortable for us, although it did allow for a lot of seating. It's just something that didn't work for us to hold your hundred grandkids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah oh, my goodness, so anyway. So, oh, so, oh, I got to tell everybody. So again we're in the Midwest. The wind today was crazy. It's horrible. It's like you know it used to be Chicago was a windy city.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. We are the sister or the queen of wind.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know, it's like Iowa either you're 100 degrees and soaking in humidity, or it's so windy you can't even open your eyes against it.
Speaker 2:There's no in between. Yeah, or it's 30 to 40 below wind chill factor.
Speaker 1:Come to Iowa. Let's not say that, because we could still get snow, that's true.
Speaker 2:Let's not say that we have gotten snow in late April before. So, Bobby, we have a pretty interesting topic today.
Speaker 1:We do, and today's topic is going to delve deep into the afterlife.
Speaker 2:Do you believe in ghosts, ghosts, ghosts.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I'm in your house.
Speaker 2:My call is coming from inside the house. Oh wait, that's kind of just creepy. That's not really a ghost that's like killer stalker yeah
Speaker 1:yeah okay, you know, and I kind of wonder why you know we see all these or we hear about all these ghosts and everything, and they're like from oh, 1700s, 1800s, you know, early 1900s. You don't hear of a ghost in 2025 that kicks down your door and goes it's Britney bitch, like why that's the ghost. I want.
Speaker 2:Well, and also yeah, because they say oh, what was you? What was the ghost wearing Victorian clothing, or you know?
Speaker 1:do they issue it on the other side?
Speaker 2:civil war clothing and it's like why isn't there anything from before that or after that?
Speaker 1:you know, why isn't some punk rocker, you know, know, haunting my house or something, or some mom with moon boots and a fur coat Like come on now.
Speaker 2:That's right, but so we're going to talk about do you believe in ghosts? Yeah, do you believe?
Speaker 1:in ghosts. Do you believe in ghosts? So I got a statistic for you. So I got a statistic for you. Did you know? A solid majority of adults in the United States actually believe in one kind of paranormal or supernatural phenomenon.
Speaker 2:And you know what's interesting is there's a lot of reality shows now that are ghost chasers. There's whole channels that can't be explained, and so they can they attribute it to the paranormal, and so we're going to talk about this a little bit. So are there different kinds of ghosts, do you think? I think there are I think that there are poltergeist, poltergeist apparition.
Speaker 1:I think that there's also imprintation or loops where it's not an active haunting, it's just something that kind of was imprinted on a place or a thing and just kind of relives the same moment over and over again.
Speaker 2:They get attached either to a house a house.
Speaker 1:A house, don't you know?
Speaker 2:I was gonna say home and then I thought maybe I'll go with house. They get attached. You think we've been drinking, you know, um, but you get attached to a house or to a piece of furniture. Yeah, or even creepier to a piece of furniture, yeah, or even creepier, to a doll.
Speaker 1:Yeah or God forbid a person I know they follow that person around or they follow them around.
Speaker 2:So have you ever? Do you think, bobby, that you've ever been in a haunted house?
Speaker 1:I grew up in one.
Speaker 2:You didn't grow up in one.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, I did on the cemetery. No, you didn't. Yes, ma'am that wasn't really hot, okay, okay listen, my room was in the basement and no one would be home and I would hear footsteps going down that hallway. Nobody's there, can't tell me that's not haunted.
Speaker 2:So bobby's dad uh was a uh sexton. Yes, he took care of the cemetery and the cemetery was crossroad from us and also to the site of our, the home that we lived in, and I will admit there were some activities that did occur in that house Nothing threatening ever.
Speaker 2:No, no, no you know, I don't remember having any threatening activities at all and, as as you're aware, my mom was clairvoyant, had a little clairvoyancy, a little bit, a little bit. I have a little bit of it, um, your sister has a teeny tiny bit of it and so sometimes we were kind of like is that happening to us because of some gift that we were given, uh, or some? You know, is it some type of spirit or whatever?
Speaker 1:It's having that empath aura around you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where you can feel it more than anything.
Speaker 2:And my whole thing these girls can attest to it and actually many people can that have been around me is, over the years, what's happened with me is sometimes I would get a fleeting thought and it would be true. And so when I would call my girls and say, hey, you know, as an example, where's Corey? Yeah, are you okay?
Speaker 3:Is Corey, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:And Bobby immediately would go oh my gosh. You know, please, mom, what happened and you know, I'd just say let's just say a prayer and let's put a light around him. You know, let's just protect him here real quick, because I never knew right and but a lot of the things that had come to me, as you know, just thoughts, they were very fleeting thoughts really did happen and I'll talk about some of those uh with you and and you're aware of them.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, our listeners are not so, um, and it's more of a feeling with me, like when you got thrown from liberty and liberty was a Clydesdale saddle, yeah and she got spooked by that. Uh, what was it? A rat, snake or something like that.
Speaker 2:No, there were ball snakes, bull snake okay yep, she got spooked and you got thrown.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, I immediately was.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh man, something's wrong, something's really wrong so I'm gonna go into a few of those things so that people can understand. You know just how weird and how weird we are, we are as a family. So let's talk about some ghosts. So I'm really kind of interested.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know from our, our listeners, whether or not they've ever had any experiences, and we would really love to hear from y'all absolutely on this topic, even if it's just something that you know, you on this topic, even if it's just something that you know, you're not really sure, but it was just something, maybe a thought that came to mind, or whatever, but we know that there's really no scientific evidence, correct? So we know that. You know, centuries of scientific research, uh, haven't found any evidence to support any existence of ghosts or paranormal activities. Now, you know Dr Domaine and I being very strong in the faith, we know that there's a Holy Ghost, right, so we believe in that ghost and angels. There are some angels you know, that we're aware of in our faith.
Speaker 1:But are angels really ghosts? Because I was always taught that angels never walked the earth. They weren't human forms. So would they really be considered ghosts or would they be considered more of an entity?
Speaker 2:Great question, Because you know the Bible talks about demons also, Right, and you know how do those come to you? Sometimes they can come in human form, Sometimes they can come in other manifestations.
Speaker 1:So I think this would be like a separate column from ghosts.
Speaker 2:I do too, yeah so let's kind of stick to the ghost side of it. Um, for the paranormal activity, um, I think that you know many individuals do believe in ghosts, based on, sometimes, their personal experiences and then stories or even cultural beliefs, because the further south you go, let's face it, they are definitely, uh, into ghosts yep, would you agree?
Speaker 3:dr domain they got the hoodoo and the voodoo, yeah I was looking for a house down south in savannah area and um connected with this realtor who was a native of the area and she was, uh, was well-known in the area for having a really good understanding of the area, and so we're looking at these houses and I happened to go in and I look up and I just noticed that the ceiling was blue and I've been thinking of it. And after about the third or fourth house, I looked up into the patio area and the ceiling was blue and I was like, uh, excuse me, ma'am, why we've been in like three or four houses and all the ceilings before you enter the door are blue and she's like honey child, that's uh, that's hate blue.
Speaker 2:Yes, that was a terrible impression. Did you want me to do that for you?
Speaker 3:honey darling, that is called haint blue and uh, it's like what, what is that? And it's to keep the haints out, and they would see it as blue sky, and then they would follow that instead of coming in your house, keep the spirits out, yeah, but very very.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a lot of voodoo, a lot of. I mean, you go down to savannah, you get ghost tours, a lot of civil war type of hauntings and what. In the area that I was living in in fort mcallister they had a lot of battles in that area and they were known for a lot of ghost sightings and things like that yeah, and you go on down to norlands and of course you know they oh, the cemetery tours and everything.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's just very interesting and so you know I I can't say that when I was in savannah with you or down south that I ever really experienced any things. Mine usually ends up being more of a feeling, and so you know we talked about ghost hunting. While ghost hunting is kind of a popular activity, the methods used are kind of considered what do we want to say? Pseudoscience, yeah, and there's no real credible evidence to support any of their claims or that their equipment actually works. Yeah. I mean, have you watched some?
Speaker 1:of those, Bob, I have. Well, actually I have a spirit box at home that my dad bought me. What's?
Speaker 2:a spirit box.
Speaker 1:So a spirit box is? It's a tool that I guess they kind of made for ghost hunting and what it does is it scans hundreds of different frequencies at a rapid pace. And what, supposedly I'm going to say supposedly, because there's no scientific evidence. I'm going to say supposedly, because there's no scientific evidence Supposedly it's used to communicate with any kind of entities or spirits that wish to communicate by using the different frequencies. Sure, and so you'll hear words pop up and things like that when you ask it questions.
Speaker 1:But I got that many years ago and there's a pretty famous hotel in Perry that I used to work at called the Hotel Pate or Patee however you want to say it, very old hotel, very rich history, and anybody who's worked there knows that that basement is definitely there's something going on down there, and so there was quite a few times that I actually went down there with the spirit box and my headphones in and just sat there and listened.
Speaker 2:So I stayed at the Hotel Patee before, never had any experiences. It's a cool hotel. It is If you ever make it to Iowa. It's a super old hotel. I don't know what year it was built, but it was empty for a long time. It was built but somebody. It was empty for a long time. Um, some investors came in and spent millions of dollars to refurbish this particular hotel and it's pretty darn cool. They have theme rooms in.
Speaker 1:Yes, every room is a different theme.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm getting a little off base there, but yeah, um. So where do you think is the most reported haunted areas that people have ever been to? That they were battlefields. It is civil war battlefields.
Speaker 1:I would have said graveyards no civil war battlefields, because it's going to be where their energy had the most trauma, and the most trauma would have been on that battlefield and the surrounding areas, because a lot of the surrounding houses were made into field hospitals so that's where I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean, I would have not guessed that. I would have guessed, you know the graveyards and it is the battlefields. What about structures? What kind of structures do you think are the most haunted?
Speaker 1:Asylums and hospitals.
Speaker 2:Actually hotels, hotels. Yeah, the Stanley Hotel, you know about Stanley Hotel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stanley hotel and the one in los angeles, the cecil hotel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that one's pretty big one, yeah now there is a penitentiary eastern state penitentiary and, uh, you know, penitentiaries are pretty good for, um, not really seeing the visions of anyone but hearing the noises right and having the communication through some of the you know squawk boxes that you're right that you'll talk about um gettysburg. Gettysburg, huge, huge, huge.
Speaker 1:Um the lizzie borden house yes, yep, the lizzie borden house and veliska axe murder house.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, in iowa, yeah you know there's documentaries out there and if you get the opportunity, if you're even at the slightest interested in these things, there's a lot of documentaries out there. Uh, related to these. One that I thought was super interesting was the winchester house oh, I would die to see that.
Speaker 1:I mean, I probably have to die to see it, but yeah, that is definitely one that is on my. Top of my bucket list is the winchester house the winchester house is everyone is probably aware.
Speaker 2:Uh, the winchester guns, right, and they were actually made for the war.
Speaker 1:Yep, um, they were the, the original um, it was back when they were uh settling the land, fighting for the west. A A lot of Native Americans died by their guns, right.
Speaker 2:And so Sarah Winchester, the wife of Mr Winchester, the heir to the Winchester fortune she started building the Winchester house and it is full of doors and the reason for that is because she went to a psychic all the time, yep, and the psychic had convinced her that, um, you know, she continued to build and continued to have doors whereby the spirits could escape, that that would kind of be retribution for what her husband had done by providing all of the guns right that killed so many people, and it is. It's a pretty cool place. Um, you know, there's hundreds of rooms.
Speaker 1:I guess it's like seven stories high yep and um, and there's staircases to no place, there's doors that open to straight drops. There are, I mean just, and they're still finding, from what I last heard up to today, they're still finding doors and rooms in this house that they had not previously known were there and that particular, um, that particular mansion is in San Jose, california.
Speaker 2:Yep, so if you're ever in that area, folks, I'd be there, you'd be there. So, um, what else related to ghosts, bobby? So do you ever get the feeling of ghosts being around you? Well, before we go into that, have you?
Speaker 1:ever seen any. Before we go into that you know you were talking about that there hasn't really been any scientific evidence of ghosts or spirits, things like that. There kind of have been studies on it because they did a study through thermodynamics, and anybody who knows the study of thermodynamics, if I could talk knows that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Now, we as humans and other ecosystems, are not closed energy sources. We're open systems systems. So that means that we are constantly exchanging energy with our surroundings. Now what they wanted to know is at our death, what happens to our energy? Because it doesn't just disappear, it's not destroyed, it doesn't just magically go away, and so they actually have done quite a few studies on that and a lot of people have linked that with, like, maybe the soul leaving your body, type of thing or but what it is is it's it's literally energy, it's energy distribution, it's energy, um, that comes from your body and goes out into the universe.
Speaker 1:Where does it go? What does it do? We're not sure, but we know it's there right.
Speaker 2:And the other thing is is not only will energy leave us, energy can enter us, correct. And so you know, biblically again, we look at that as being either some type of, you know, positive spirit or demonic spirit, and so we do know that that can be measured, because they have measured that correct, correct. And so, um, then I have to ask you do you believe in ghosts, bobby?
Speaker 1:I do. I do through personal experience. Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:And so when I say, do you believe in ghosts? And you say yes, Are we talking about an energy force? Are we talking about somebody who walked the face of this earth and you think that they came back?
Speaker 1:I think that there are quite a few different ways of thinking about it, and I've experienced quite a few ways of them thinking about it, and I've experienced quite a few ways of them. Um, you know, I've I've personally experienced what I call like a a free will ghost, which would be a ghost that could come in and, instead of replaying a certain scenario or scene over and over again, they actually have the free will to interact with a living being or an object within this realm.
Speaker 2:Well, if you'd get a smaller sofa.
Speaker 3:So what would your name be? As a ghost, would you have a name?
Speaker 1:oh that's a good one. What would your name?
Speaker 3:well, I can tell you this story I want to hear give me your best pickup line as a ghost ready go. I don't even have one. Oh, that's so lame oh, my goodness like hey, baby, you want to share them sheets?
Speaker 2:or I can see right through you.
Speaker 1:I know you want me right, but I mean, I can share this story about what I believe was like a free energy spirit, and and it's it's one that when my daughter, joey, uh, who's now almost 19,. No, she is 19. Sorry, um, she was about two or three years old and at this point my father's mother had passed quite a few years before that. She never got to meet my kids, and my father's mother was a big component of my childhood. She was always around, I was always with her, and so I had an apartment over in the old neighborhood where she had lived and I could walk in one day and I'm, you know, watching her play and talk to somebody and I'm like who are you talking to? And she goes kitty. And I said, oh, you're playing with kitty cat. She goes no, kitty. And I was like what? Like this child has never heard of my grandmother at this point. And so it was like a year later and she does it again and I'm like what do you mean kitty? And she goes kitty's over there. And I was like, well, who's kitty? And she goes kitty the lady. And I was like no, we're not playing this game because you, because I'm freaked out at this point, but I hand to God.
Speaker 1:She described my grandmother, the big glasses she used to wear, her curly hair, the fact that she was so short. She's a short little kitty, that's what she said. She's a short little kitty, but her name Kitty, and I was just like. This child has never, ever seen a photo of my grandmother. She has never heard us refer to my grandmother as Kitty. It was always Meemaw. Never, ever seen a photo of my grandmother. She has never heard us refer to my grandmother as kitty. It was always me, ma, and here she is playing with kitty. That's interesting, and I was just I was.
Speaker 2:That's the first time I've heard that story.
Speaker 1:I hadn't even I've never told anybody that story?
Speaker 2:I hadn't heard that she remembers it.
Speaker 1:She still remembers it to this day.
Speaker 2:So you feel that you had kind of an experience with that or one of the kids did what about you dr domain. Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 3:yeah, I think we touched on that a little bit. I believe in the holy ghost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely what about ghosts that stay here on earth or stay with us, uh, as either energy forces or people that you know. A lot of times, people say you know, our angels were around us. Or, um, there were angels that were protected, protecting you, and is that a previous life? Or is that an angel that was, you know, made before we know when they were?
Speaker 3:I don't know well, I think it's possible. I mean, there's there's a lot of souls that have been you know been on this earth and there's likely some type of spirits that you here that are present, whether they're angels or other types of souls.
Speaker 2:Have you ever had an experience where you thought that you saw a ghost, or you thought that you experienced some type of spirit and it was more than just a bump in the night?
Speaker 3:No, I don't think I've seen anything. I've heard things. Okay, like I've heard really distinctly my mother's voice. Okay, yeah, okay, and it just was kind of out of the blue. I just heard some things and it was she has a very distinct voice and I could. I could hear that and I knew it was her.
Speaker 2:yeah so I mean, for me, I've had so many experiences, it's crazy. But, um, you know, I I do recall, you know, my mom. I remember I had an aunt lighty and we didn't have a phone when I was growing up, and neither did a lot of my relatives. I mean, we were all out in the country and we just didn't. We were poor, we didn't have phones. And I remember my mom, you know, having situations where she would say things and we were like how'd you know that? And, um, I remember her coming in one night and she said you need to get up. Get up, because my aunt Lighty lived in Knoxville. And she said we need to go. Aunt Lighty died. And it was like how do you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't hear a phone ring.
Speaker 2:Nobody came to the door and she said Aunt Lighty just died and we had to go and she did just die. And you know some of those things I have had and at first it would scare me and then it was like, oh no, because use your powers for good and not evil. But I mean I could tell you a few things. I was living on a farm during my last marriage and I remember when I first got up there he said, uh, this house is haunted. And I go well, bring it on. You know, cause I don't really believe in that crap. I mean, you know, and, and even though I'd had a lot of experiences, I said, just bring it on.
Speaker 2:And there were so many things. I mean just I remember cleaning out a closet that was under the staircase and I was pulling everything out and something whispered in my ear and I turned around, real quick thinking was somebody in there with me? Yeah, and I thought, no, I must have been imagining it. And pretty soon, I mean I felt that breath on my ear and in that house and that one kind of freaked me out, because that was like the first time. And then we just there were so many other things that occurred in that house.
Speaker 1:Well, not only in the house but outside the house, like when the corn would get tall. You could see people walking through the corn.
Speaker 2:No, I couldn't really see people walking through the corn.
Speaker 1:Well, not people you could see where the corn was moving, like people were walking through it. I saw it.
Speaker 2:And it was kind of interesting because you know, he kept saying, oh, you know I have ghosts and I go, okay, oh there, you know I have ghosts and I go, okay, all right. Yeah, one of the other situations is his son, uh, bought a house up around the corner from us and the man who had lived there died the week before and that was the reason why we were buying this farm. You know, his son wanted to buy it. He wanted, I think it was like 15 acres or some something, and and we walked into the house, old house, and I always felt stuff. And I walked into the house and my ex-husband looked at me because I kind of stepped in the doorway and just stood there for a minute and he said do you feel something? And I go, I don't know, and I kind of just kept standing there and he goes, is he here? And I said no, he's with his daughter and I didn't know he had a daughter yeah I didn't know.
Speaker 2:The old boy had a daughter and my ex-husband went white. He said how would you have known he even had a daughter? She passed away five years ago and so. But there's so many stories I could tell you. And I don't tell people these stories because I expect them to believe me, because, quite frankly, I care less whether you do it well you get a one-way ticket to the uh asylum yourself at that point but um you know, I have seen some things, uh definitely.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen the hat man? Man? No, you laugh, you laugh. Where is it? It's not, it's not funny. So, um, a lot of times you know how you see like shadows in the corner of your eye, like maybe it's fleeting, and you don't really know if you've seen it or not. Well, there's actually. It's really really, really old. They call it an urban legend. It's not an urban legend because there's no way all these people are describing the same thing. So they think that it's between where you wake and you sleep, kind of in coming out of a REM mode yeah.
Speaker 1:And he's called the hat man because he's just a dark figure that wears like a fedora hat, but it's. He's been seen in some really haunted places. I saw him in Poltergeist but like, even like Bobby Mackey's and stuff before it was torn down. You know people, it's a real phenomenon and a lot of it, I think, is people seeing the shadow. You know the dark shadow figures moving, yeah, but there have been people you know for a very long time that have specifically described this, that have never heard of other people describing it, and all their descriptions are matching up. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, you know, I used to, you know, believe in having your palm read and, you know, going to see a psychic and things like that. Oracles and psychics, orbs, you mean Oracle, oh. But after becoming a little bit more familiar with my spiritual side of life, I definitely don't believe in that stuff. But I have had so many experiences that I do believe that there's energy forces. And I've told you kids, you know, when I die it's nothing but a zip code change to me.
Speaker 1:I'm moving on. When I die, I'll be the one chasing you up the stairs at night when you shut the light off. Trust me.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to tell you and I really want our listeners to think about this and think about I don't want to scare them, but you know, I do think, but listen, I have a list.
Speaker 1:After I die, I'm coming for you, okay. Well, okay, I'll be in the corner. I'll already be dead, so you know I don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2:You might want to just be a little nicer to me. I'm just saying that because my time comes before yours. Oh, bring it. But you know, one of the other things that had occurred and I'm just going to mention this real quick because it was kind of bizarre for me and it was probably the one that scared me the most was my ex-husband farmed for a guy, and I won't mention his name, old guy, old guy. We called him Pete. I won't tell you it wasn't even his name, but we called him Pete. And he went into a home and I had said to my ex I said, hey, have you seen Pete? Because he usually went to see him like maybe every two weeks. He says, no, I haven't, I haven't gotten to see him for a while. And I said, oh, you probably need to go see him, you know. And, uh, a week went by and I said, hey, did you ever go up and see Pete? And he said, no, not yet. And I said make it soon. And then on a Wednesday this was on Wednesday I said, hey, you know, if you haven't gone to see Pete yet, you need to go see him. And he goes yeah, yeah, I'll try to do that by the end of the week. And I said, okay, on Friday I sat straight up in bed in the early in the morning I can't remember the time straight up in bed and I go Pete just died.
Speaker 2:And he goes what? And I said Pete just died. And he said how did you know that? And I said I felt him go through me. Now, why he would ever go through me and whether he did or didn't is irrelevant. That's what I felt. 30 minutes later his daughter called and said pete just died. And it shook me. I mean it really shook me because that was the first time that I'd felt something like that. And again, I don't tell people this stuff. As a matter of fact, this is the first time.
Speaker 2:You've probably heard that one, bobby, yeah you got that grandma dickie juju but you know it's not something that you talk about, because most people look at you like you're crazy and I am crazy, and so you know that just kind of pushed me over the over the edge. But, um, dr domain, did you have any stories other than what you've shared with us that maybe you would suspect it to be I don't know a sixth sense?
Speaker 3:No, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Have you ever thought about it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've thought about it, you know, was that premonition? Yeah, probably premonition, I don't know. I never really associated it with that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I mean, you always had the, not a premonition, but we always had like the childhood things, like there were certain things that were haunted, yeah.
Speaker 2:With the haunted bridge. Yeah, the haunted bridge.
Speaker 3:The house with seven ladders, and all that creepy stuff.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you this because, Bobby, I already know your answer to this.
Speaker 3:And then the haunted houses, which you were my defender, you and I and your sisters all went to those when we were younger. And so let me ask you this.
Speaker 2:We were going to the haunted house. We would go to the haunted houses.
Speaker 3:Jane was there and she was like stiff-arming all the monsters I did stay away from us.
Speaker 2:Stay away from us she was really yeah so, um, you know, I I would really want people to kind of think about this, because I truly believe there are energies out there, good, bad or indifferent. I do believe that there's energy. I don't know what it is. I have no answers to any of that business.
Speaker 1:Well, I can say that I mean there's houses I won't walk in. There's houses that I feel sick in know just from the energy yeah and I did too. I have all I have to do is roll up in the driveway and be like nope, sorry, yeah, I ain't doing it, I ain't going in there.
Speaker 2:I could tell kind of a interesting story about when my sister died here five years ago, and you already know that story and that that one was uh boy, that was a shaker too. But would you. So let me ask you this. I'll start with Dr Domain. Would you spend the night in a haunted house that someone or it's very well known, the Stanley Hotel? Would you spend the night in the Stanley Hotel or in a haunted what they would claim to be a haunted hotel?
Speaker 3:Would the bed be?
Speaker 1:comfortable. Does it have magic?
Speaker 2:fingers? Yeah, does it have one of those?
Speaker 1:quarter things does it have cable?
Speaker 3:would I? Yeah, what? What am I getting in return? You get to sleep at the hotel I get, I get the experience you might get to experience.
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't see a need for that. I could sleep in my own bed.
Speaker 3:No, I don't. I mean, if you're like, if there's some incentive.
Speaker 2:You feel like there's spirits in your bed. If I had no other options like I'm. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I'm on a deserted island and it's the only haunted house On an island. Yeah, I guess that would be my only option.
Speaker 2:Would you, bobby, would you stay in a haunted house?
Speaker 1:I would, but I can guarantee you that I would not be sleeping. Uh, there's no. There would be no sleep happening. I'd probably sit in the corner with my eyes wide open the whole night, but absolutely I would stay there, yeah absolutely yeah, or just for the just to get the sticker at the end of the tour, you know I like stickers.
Speaker 2:So when I lived on the farm I you guys knew that we had activity in that house and you know, of course it didn't scare me because I never once felt threatened, right, your sister did.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And she first time she ever spent the night there. She said I'll never be back to spend the night. I'll come visit you, but that's it.
Speaker 1:I never spent the night there. You never spent the night there.
Speaker 2:And and I never spent the night you never, never right there, and so you know. That's why I wondered would you actually stay and spend the night, do you? Think that you could face something if you heard some you know absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean I might pee myself but I mean I'm not running, if that's what you're asking, because you know, even like on the cemetery growing up, I'm going to be honest with you that cemetery scared the crap out of the neighborhood kids, but it was the only place that I actually felt safe in that entire neighborhood. I could walk in that cemetery at 1 o'clock in the morning with no lights on and I felt safe. I felt protected there. I did too.
Speaker 2:It was so peaceful it was. Our neighbors never having parties. Oh man, we were. Popular one day a year, peaceful, and you know our neighbors never having parties. Oh man, you know we were popular one day a year.
Speaker 1:Halloween we were the most popular kids on the block. Any other day we were the freaks down the street.
Speaker 2:I was going to say every other day yeah Well, I think that's probably. Did you have anything else on this topic, bobby? Because I think that's probably all the absurdity. I think that.
Speaker 1:That is I, just. I would love to hear from the listeners we want to know your stories. You're good, you're bad, you're scary. Did you ever pee your pants and run out? Was it a scooby-doo?
Speaker 2:moment, let us know. Do you have a spirit that follows you? Do you have a doll that? Are you haunted? Yeah, do you have a haunted or a possessed doll that we can?
Speaker 1:come look at like the zach baggins museum. That's another bucket list item where's that? It's down in las vegas was yeah there's some.
Speaker 3:There was some creepy place by the airport over down in florida and they're like they had this doll and you had to oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was in a oh, so it was in a glass case.
Speaker 1:And then they opened up the glass case. Zach Bagans has that doll now. Oh, he has it now. It's in his museum, but he does lend it out respectfully, yeah. And I think his name is like Richard or something like that, the doll's name. But yeah, he actually acquired that doll and he's got like Dybbuk boxes.
Speaker 3:What's a Dybbuk box? I have no idea.
Speaker 2:It's a Jewish thing. Sounds naughty. Oh it's a.
Speaker 3:It's a Jewish box.
Speaker 1:It's a box that they contain a bad spirit in. That's a Jewish thing.
Speaker 2:It's a Jewish thing Kind of like on Ghostbusters, where they took their laser things and they put the ghosts in a box. Remember, don't cross the laser path. Don't cross the beams.
Speaker 1:Don't cross the beams, don't cross the beams. No, not the same thing, but you know, yeah, I think that'd be cool.
Speaker 2:So I think that's probably all we have today. We appreciate you joining us here at the Rabbit Hole Studio. Be sure to follow us. We look forward to spending time with you each and every week. Please like us, and if you have some positive feedback for us or if there's a topic you want us to talk about, please drop us a short email at boomerandjenexer at gmailcom, and if you have some negative or hate mail, you know where you can put that. We do take constructive criticism, though, so until next week, I'm Jane Bird and I'm bobby joy and you're stuck with us.
Speaker 2:Peace out later.