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"The Shitter's Full": Real Talk About RV Life Isn't What You Think S:1E:37

Jane Burt Season 1 Episode 37

Remember when camping meant throwing a sleeping bag in a tent and roughing it for a weekend? Those days are long gone. In this candid conversation, mother-daughter duo Jane and Bobbi Joy pull back the curtain on modern camping culture—from $300,000 or several millions, luxury motorhomes to the secret world of campground social dynamics.

The pair share laugh-out-loud stories from their extensive camping experiences, including the nightmare of paying $150 per night to camp beside train tracks so loud they couldn't hear themselves speak. They explore how camping has transformed from being seen as "the poor people's vacation" to an expensive lifestyle choice, with glamping and high-end RVs changing the landscape entirely.

Beyond the practical aspects, Jane and Bobbi offer a fascinating glimpse into campground subcultures most people never knew existed. 

The episode doesn't shy away from the messier realities of camping life either—including a particularly memorable story from Dr. Domain about a "chocolate fountain" disaster involving an RV's black water tank that will have you both laughing and cringing. Through personal anecdotes and practical insights, they paint a picture of camping that's far more complex than the Instagram-perfect images suggest.

Whether you're a seasoned camper, considering buying an RV, or just curious about this evolving American tradition, this episode offers an unfiltered look at what camping truly entails today—both the freedom and beauty it provides, and the unexpected challenges that come with it.

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Speaker 1:

welcome everyone to today's show. Boomer and a gen x are walking to a bar, coming to you from the rabbit hole studio, where you, as our listeners, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smart assery and a mother and daughter questioning. Are we even related? My name is jane burr, my co-host is my daughter, bobby Joy, and for the next several minutes we're going to talk about. Guess what we're going to talk about today, bobby? Did I give you a topic today.

Speaker 2:

Well, you told me what it was, but you know the weather's getting nice and summer's around the corner, so uh, yeah, what's the camping?

Speaker 1:

camping, camping, tenting, going all out and you know getting away, and, uh, the poor people's vacation that's. You know what?

Speaker 2:

it isn't poor people anymore not anymore, oh my goodness glamping has taken the nation by storm, camping alone, and the cost for fuel and the cost for the units. Listen, she's already getting onto it, onto the glamping thing, because she's talking about fuel and everything else. I'm talking about a sleeping bag and a one-person tent. Oh yeah, that's not happening. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's not happening. So the reason I wanted to talk about camping is because, whether you're staying at a resort, or whether you're just staying at a campground, or even, you know know, a state or a national park, there are some weird things that go on or even your neighbor's backyard.

Speaker 2:

They just don't know it yet even your neighbor's backyard.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, we live out in the country, I do anyway and uh, the house in in georgia is up in the mountains and we have an acreage up there too, so we don't have neighbors like right on top of us or anything like that, and I would. I would not like that at all. I wouldn't. I wouldn't move back to the city unless I was forced to, like when my girls think they're going to put me in a home or something like that.

Speaker 1:

You know, that's what I'll call it, no we call it the shed the shed, yeah, the she shed the she should have been nicer than a shit, a shed. She'd have been doing better if she would have, uh, just been nicer. So uh, anyway, I know there's a lot of campers out there, a lot of people who go rving, and you know some people just go intense, like you you were talking about Right and they rough it, they take mountain bikes or you know they just go up there with their kids and they bring the bare necessities and they have a great time.

Speaker 2:

That's not me, or they go dirt bikes, utvs, things like that, yeah, and go in the desert for a few days, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's not me, I'll just tell you that right now. And then there's people who buy these little teardrop campers, some of the older campers, you know, like the little streamlines, the little streamline campers. Yeah, you know, those little teardrop campers are like almost $30,000.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, actually my dad's refurbishing an old streamliner teardrop type camper that maybe fits two people, if you're lucky wow, yeah, yeah, they're very expensive now, so they've definitely gotten a corner on the market as it relates to campers and rvs. And then there's people who have, you know, the great big, long fifth wheel. There's bumper poles, um, there's people that have.

Speaker 2:

She has one no I don't have a fifth wheel. Well, no, you have one of the great big long ones with the toe behind, and okay calm down yeah so there's people who have the big, uh fifth wheels and I mean they're very luxurious.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you've got tour bus quality yeah yeah, I mean super nice, and you know they're running anywhere from 100 200 300 000 just for for a fifth wheel and, uh, we saw some really nice ones, didn't we?

Speaker 2:

dr domain, uh, on the road I mean super nice, not the type that you'd see cousin eddie outside going shitters full no, not any of that business. No, old winnebago's or anything like that makes me sad and you know a lot of these.

Speaker 1:

When you talk about glamping, I mean you've got everything. This is like another home yeah, it's a totally. It's like a five-star hotel, absolutely. And even the fifth wheels have multiple bathrooms in them, yep, and outdoor showers, outdoor kitchens. It's crazy what you can get in a fifth wheel. And then there's the motorhomes, and yes, we do have a 40-foot motorhome and we do um, it is a toy hauler also, and so we take motorcycles in the back, and then we do, you know, we tow a car and we do have e-bikes that we take I like how you're trying to like downplay all of this and yeah, so it's not like we're roughing it by any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 1:

I will say that it is not uncomfortable to live in, for sure. But um, once you get to, I've always said what weird little birds we are. Because on this earth we find a little plot of land and we say stay off of it, this is ours, do not trespass. I'm going to put a fence up around it and I'm going to build my house, or I'm going to have a house there, and this is going to be just mine. And now it's gotten to the point where we take our house with us.

Speaker 2:

So not only do we take our house with us, so not only do we have our house, we have our house that we take with us. I mean, that's that's honestly always been. My dream, though, is not to have the house on the permanent plot of land. It's to be able to get in my house and drive it far, far away from the people I don't want to talk to right now you know, back when I was growing up, you would hear about people who would be living in a van down by the river.

Speaker 2:

Yep, chris farley, yeah or or I'd be living in a van down by the river. Bless his heart.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, that almost made me choke, or they would be living on the beach. You know, they would have their van up there and they'd be living on the beach, or they'd have a tent that you know, yeah, or even their motorcycle with a tent attached to it. Yep, and we thought they were weirdos, homeless weirdos. Homeless weirdos, of course, in some respect, you know, did Ted Bundy live in a van?

Speaker 2:

Right, I don't know. You know, did ted bundy live in a right? I don't know. I don't know jeffrey dommer, I mean, he had his own nice apartment, but we're not talking about that. How?

Speaker 1:

did that come up? You start. So we used to think that those people were crazy, right, and now it's like wow it's the dream, it's the dream of a lot of people to just get out from under what they've got get out of debt. Don't have to work so many hours. You know who are you out to impress right, I mean it used to be. You got to keep up with the joneses. I don't even know who the joneses are.

Speaker 2:

A lot of these campers are are built to impress, though, as well I mean, they've come into the realm of it. And you know, when I was down in florida, I went down to florida for a few months and stayed down there with my now ex-husband. We actually lived on St Petersburg Beach. I mean, we lived in the sand on the beach because the hotels were crappy. We didn't, you know, have a place to rent at the time and we just drove down there and we stayed on the beach and it was glorious.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's a lot of people that think, man, what a life that would be, you know to to actually do that. But you know, if you're going to live out of a van, out of a tent, that really is kind of roughing it because it isn't you. You don't have all the amenities that you have in your home or that you would have in a motor home or in a camper well, but let's talk about that, because I think that it's not.

Speaker 2:

It's not what it once was so like when we had, like the mark 8 van, you know we had the little tv in it, the little table and the back, you know, folded down into a bed. That was luxurious back in the 80s I mean that was like high high dollar.

Speaker 1:

We were rolling, yeah, yeah, they envied us they did.

Speaker 2:

And now, you know, even with my suv, I can plug in you know, a small tv. Have a wireless router. Okay, I have internet, I have tv. I have a gym membership to one of the largest gyms in the nation that has all these locations where I can shower, work out. You know things like that.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm trying to get past that workout. You're gonna go. This is hypothetical.

Speaker 2:

Oh, jesus lord, okay because you kind of I'm saying you know you, for you $25 a month, you can get a gym membership to someplace that has thousands of locations across the country. You got a place to shower, you got a place to, you know, have electricity, blow dry your hair, whatever, brush your teeth, things like that. And then you know what other amenities do you really need? You've got, you know, your TV, your radio, you've got the ability to travel, you can stop and wash your clothes. You have everything you need right there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so let's talk about the costs associated outside of that, because if you're boondocking which is not hooking up to anything, that's what it's called is boondocking Right.

Speaker 2:

Dry camping Okay, dry camping. Dry camping Okay, dry camping. Just translating, I just had to catch up.

Speaker 1:

And so if you're doing that, yeah, there's a lot of places you could find that you could pull into and probably stay for free, not for any real length of time.

Speaker 2:

Right, but a night or two nights yeah yeah.

Speaker 1:

But other than that, if you are a camper and you've decided, hey, I want to invest in a camper, first and foremost, know that they're very expensive, yes. Secondly, they're not made like they used to be made. No, by any stretch of the imagination. They also have a lot of technical stuff in them, right you?

Speaker 1:

know, just like with the new cars. Yeah, and the more you get on it, the more that can break down. Right, and we've found that with our motorhome. Um, because we have everything on that thing and, trust me, I think dr domain has replaced everything. Yeah, if it can break, it will. And people say you know, why do you take so many tools with you? If we could take a u-haulul with tools in the back, we would.

Speaker 2:

Well, you got the toy hauler. Just put a toolbox back there, strap it down, it's full of other stuff.

Speaker 1:

We even have a washer dryer back there. So you know I mean, but the you know, when we talk about the costs associated with camping, it's just, it's almost appalling because people are trying to take vacations whereby they can spend time with their kids. Now, right and oh OK, well, just try to get away from the kids?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, and you can either take a big fancy vacation where you can fly somewhere, stay at a nice resort, go out of the country, whatever it is, you can go, do that. Or you can, you know, go away for the weekends, yeah, or long weekends, or a holiday, or a vacation for the summer, and a lot of times it is much cheaper than taking, you know, a european vacation, by any stretch right um, but I will tell you, the cost of a campsite anymore is getting crazy. Yeah, am I wrong, dr Domey?

Speaker 3:

Well, they do like they use the same strategy that other recreational places do, that whole idea of surge pricing. Yes, like around Memorial Day boop you know, doubles or triples?

Speaker 2:

And the location of it. Is it close to a national monument? Is?

Speaker 3:

it close to a theme park.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, can you even get in yeah, can you even get in?

Speaker 1:

because most of them are not first come, first serve anymore, right, um? And if they are, you're screwed, unless you're a local where you can take your tent out there and put it up before you can get your camper out there. But otherwise you know you're reserving on an online system, correct, and you kind of get what you get, right. Yeah, sometimes you can pick your your spot, but a lot of times you get what you get. And if you've never been there before you don't know what you're getting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So, just to give you an example, we went up to Wisconsin here oh, I know this one, yeah, and Dr Domain sent the video, oh my goodness. So we stayed at a KOA and I'll be honest with you, I don't like KOAs. I do not like KOAs at all. Now, there's a lot of people out there who think that they have a lot to offer. They have the amenities.

Speaker 1:

Most times, the amenities are not up and running anyway, right? But um, they're very expensive and they cram them in there like you could almost roast your hot dog out your door on the neighbor's fire. Right, that's how close you are. So they're very, very close and, of course, they're going to take advantage of the amount of space that they have and put every particular type of slot in there, move everybody in and out. So we go up to wisconsin, we're at a koa, and we did not know this when we booked it, because we booked it online and it was about what was it? 135 a night, plus tax, plus fees, plus whatever. So you end up paying about 150 a night, plus we're paying for fuel to get up there, right, and we're taking a couple of days to get up there, right, and so we, we've spent the night somewhere else and whatever. And uh, we get up there and it's on a freaking train long.

Speaker 1:

And it's not just Now. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind trains, but this train was the loudest train I have ever heard in my life and we were across, right across the road from it, and dr domain did take a video of me and he said hey, jane, what are you doing? You can't even hear my voice because it was so loud.

Speaker 1:

You couldn't hear my voice. I know it's so loud. Because it was so loud, you couldn't hear my voice on the video, and here we're paying $150. Now here's how they describe it You'll be lulled to sleep.

Speaker 2:

With chloroform.

Speaker 1:

With the sound of the tracks from the Northern Railway or whatever the heck it is, and they bury that in the description. It wasn't online, but they bury it into their Facebook description, somewhere where you're being lulled to sleep. Lulled to sleep, my ass, okay. That sounded like an atomic bomb went off in the neighborhood just down the road and it was crazy. And we talked to him about it. We said could you move us? No, we're full, of course. Is there a discount for having to take this crappy space? No, that's against our policy. Go be lulled to sleep. Yeah, it was so bad, we're stuck there for four nights. And I wasn't an asshole about it. I said, listen, bad, we're stuck there for four nights. And, and I wasn't an asshole about it.

Speaker 2:

I said listen, is there something you can do to help us here? What are they going to do? Stop the trains? No, they could have moved this she's here jane's here. We gotta stop the trains for the next four days. Well, you know, if you can do it, if you got that kind of pull.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying, if you got that kind of pull, do it. But I wasn't an asshole. I just said hey, listen, hey, listen, you know, could you move us? And they go no, we're full. Yeah. And I said is there a discount for being over here? And they go no. And I said you know this is. I said, had we known this, we would have booked somewhere else. And I said, you know, and it's Memorial Day weekend and he looked at me and he goes well, I can refund your money and you can go down the road. And I said there's nowhere to go down the road.

Speaker 1:

And he knows that Everything is full, and they know that and we're a state away, yeah.

Speaker 2:

What, and they know that, and that's the surge pricing and things like that.

Speaker 1:

And I said you know, listen, okay, it is what it is, and you know we lived through it, yeah through it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it was. It was tough. I mean, it was really tough. Note to self I will not do that again.

Speaker 1:

I mean check the maps for railways nearby. Don't even if they say you'll be lulled to sleep by this the swing like a hammer to the forehead.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, define lull, okay, so we get you know.

Speaker 1:

So back to you know kind of the little quirks and things like that. So you pull into your site and you know everybody's got their own little space right and now they're decorating it and like they're gonna live there for a long time. Some of them might some do, but some I mean, you think about our campground. That's in grimes, that's hugely popular, cuddies oh yeah, but they live there, they do, they live there.

Speaker 2:

These are people that come in for the weekend and they have homes, but they have permanent parking out at this campground year around.

Speaker 1:

So they they come into these little ab spaces and they're like right next to us and I can almost hear them peeing. You know, from from mike mike motorhome. We got a class a, we got a big unit and I can hear them what you heard him?

Speaker 3:

what peeing. Oh, what'd you think?

Speaker 1:

european, european european so you got these little bitties, little bitty sites okay, and every how many times a day, dr Domain, did you get a text message from them telling you don't do this, do this, don't do this, do this?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was borderline harassment.

Speaker 1:

It was borderline harassment, it was.

Speaker 3:

They spammed me so hard.

Speaker 1:

And then they had a new section that was being built and it wasn't done yet and it wasn't fenced in or anything like that. So I take the dogs down and I turn the dogs loose because there's nobody down there, my dogs stay with me. Get a text message Please do not go down into the new area and keep your dogs on a leash and I just want to go screw you as hard as you possibly could. Okay, you know, and half the stuff didn't work and it was like it was just annoying. And so here's everybody who pulls into their little spaces, and now everybody, and most times people are really really nice, yeah, but then you got. You got the shit shows. You got uncle eddie out there you got uncle Eddie out there and you're just watching.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you're just. You know, that's part of the entertainment.

Speaker 2:

It is kind of part of the entertainment. Grab a beer, start your fire and watch the neighbors.

Speaker 1:

And so somebody else is trying to back their unit in and he's yelling at her and she's going can't you see me, you stupid son of a bitch, you know?

Speaker 2:

And so he's pulling in, pulling out you know five times and he's going.

Speaker 1:

Where the hell are you? I can't see shit and they're screaming at each other. And you're right, that's part of the entertainment, yeah, it is. But once you get there, there are little clicks. Oh yeah, there are little clicks, yep, and whether it's in a resort or whether it's at a village or whether it's at a campground, it's at a village or whether it's at a campground, there's some little things that people do that you kind of go what the hell is that all about? Name one of them dr domain.

Speaker 3:

What's the pink loofah mean?

Speaker 2:

I don't remember, but swingers, oh no, that's the pineapple upside down, yeah, so no, it's a soft swap soft yeah, the people who like to do it with others in the room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

This is a good time for a quiz? I think yeah let's do that. Okay, yellow Yellow loofah.

Speaker 1:

Yellow loofah means they like to pee on each other.

Speaker 2:

Holy R Kelly.

Speaker 3:

I know she's really lowered the bar of this show. It's just you and me now, Bobby.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yep, you're out.

Speaker 3:

So yellow mid-level swap for those who want to have fun but are still nervous.

Speaker 2:

These are all loofahs.

Speaker 1:

Someone's going to drop the soap. Loofahs that they hang from their golf cart.

Speaker 3:

You start with white, which is normal, which is beginner, and then purple is a voyeur and people who like to watch.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and then?

Speaker 3:

it goes pink and then blue is the lowest level of a full swap okay, those who can play well with others, and then yellow is the mid-level swap. They're still nervous. Black is let's do it like they do all out. Yeah, pee diddy party yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a full, that's a good one right, I only knew about the pineapples and the pink flamingos so there's, there's black, there's the full swap okay those who say you know what the hell, let it all go down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think we all know what full swap is. And then teal.

Speaker 3:

Teal is like the top and that is bisexual. For those that want to increase their dating chances, oh. Okay, so there's always these little. That'd be a good opening line right there.

Speaker 2:

So there's always the sex cults there's always going to be.

Speaker 3:

The pineapples and stuff Did you?

Speaker 1:

know this. There's even people of color camping clubs.

Speaker 3:

I'm a color. Where's my club?

Speaker 1:

You'll get clubbed. No, there are. There's some for people of color, there are some that are just obviously for, like, lgbtq.

Speaker 2:

Okay. There's camp clubs for that. Yeah, so they feel safe. Yeah, yeah, they feel safe Well amongst.

Speaker 3:

I don't care what you do in your bedroom.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you don't want the skinheads, you know, next to the LGBTQs. There's motorcycle. There's motorcycle club groups. Why do you bring up motorcycle clubs? When I said skinheads, because that immediately made me think of your friends.

Speaker 2:

They're bald Because they're old, dr.

Speaker 1:

Domain is bald. Everyone's got their own club.

Speaker 3:

You got your alphabet soup and all that and everything. I've got nothing against that.

Speaker 2:

I've got nothing against transsexuals.

Speaker 3:

But they changed. Okay, dad jokes, I've got nothing against that, I've got nothing against transsexuals but they changed.

Speaker 2:

Oh jeez, okay, dad, jokes Doesn't work anymore, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

So let's get back to you know. First of all, there's a lot of clicks, there's a lot of things that go on. You know camping and there's a lot more to it, and people go oh, it would be so cool to go out and go camping. There is a lot to it. There's a lot of times that you'll pull into a campsite and you know that there's a bunch of people that are there together and you just did not fit in.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what we did when we took that whole circle in the campground with the cousins and we had just a huge party and it was all of us in that entire circle was our family.

Speaker 1:

We had about 10 campers there and we're all in one circle and yeah we all just partied down and it was cousins, yeah, and so you know that's always fun and um, but again, you know there's a, there is a lot to it, and I just think that people think that it's no big deal. Now there's also different types of campsites, right, so you can. We talked about Everything from basic to full service Tent. Yeah To just electricity, yeah To electricity and water To electricity, water sewer To electricity, water sewer, you know?

Speaker 2:

Community clubhouse exercise room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Internet, yeah, cable TV, yep, you know all that business and so. But you're paying for that. Yeah, absolutely You're paying for that. Yeah, absolutely You're paying premium for that, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

So you know, I would rather, I would rather be dry camping myself. We did a lot of, I think, of dry camping when, when us kids were little.

Speaker 1:

We did In the black Hills.

Speaker 2:

And, honestly, those were some of my favorite family vacations. I hated Disneyland. I hated Disney world, the camping in the black Hills oh.

Speaker 2:

God, just throw me in the river at that point. But the camping in the Black Hills I absolutely loved. And it's not just because Dad scared the shit out of my sister by pretending to be a bear, it was, I mean, it was just. It was a lot more just raw, you know, just nature and raw. Now my kids bless those kids.

Speaker 2:

So I rented a cabin out at the lake and nice cabin sleeps a, you know, full kitchen, just air conditioning, everything. And we're right by the lake. You know everything's set up for us didn't even make it a night. These freaking kids. I rented it for three days and two nights. First night can we go home? Can we go home? Can we go home? Why? I don't know, because they're not like me, I don't know. I don't know. Two of them ended up going home and the other two couldn't go home because they didn't get along with the other two. And it was just like the whole time I was just like this was a disaster. I should have come out here by myself, rented this huge cabin by myself like it was. It was pointless.

Speaker 2:

You let the kids ruin your ruin your spot again ruin your spot I'm like, oh, you know family and we're gonna be so loving and have so much fun.

Speaker 1:

Stupid, stupid, stupid we, you know, we have a good time camping, for sure, and we have the motorhome, and so it's not like we're we're right, inconvenienced, but I mean it was a cabin? Yeah, you had a cabin and you know you can go pretty much anywhere you want to go, like you mentioned.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um as long as you can afford the gas, as long as you can get in. We had kayaks, we had the beach to swim on, we had the concession stands, but it is a lot of work, but did you have Wi-Fi? No.

Speaker 3:

There. That was the point. That was a kiss of death right there, yep you just solved the crime.

Speaker 2:

That was the point. There was a TV that had antenna.

Speaker 3:

I totally agree with you on that one. You solved the crime. But, yeah, they didn't have enough time to detox. They didn't have Wi-Fi no, from the. They didn't have enough time to detox from the digital part, so just to go camping.

Speaker 1:

Some of the things that you have to do. First of all, you have to pack right, and you not only have to pack your clothes. You have to pack towels, you have to pack soap, you have to pack dishes, you have to pack, you know.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking food, first aid, yeah, everything.

Speaker 1:

Everything.

Speaker 2:

You have to take your house and put it in your camper Right.

Speaker 1:

And so for us, since we already have two houses, we now have a third house, because everywhere we go, we go, oh, where's that thing? And since we kept saying that now we've got three of everything, yeah, towels, everything. And so that works out for us. But let's say that you're going camping in a tent or you know you're taking a camper out and then your camper goes into a storage unit or it goes to a storage facility. You need to take that stuff out, otherwise mice get in there and you know.

Speaker 2:

Well, with a tent, I mean you need a bedroll and a pillow, and your go bag, I mean really you know, a couple of hot dogs, some granola bars, water.

Speaker 1:

It's a little bit more than that. You've got to have firewood, you've got to have fire starters, you've got to have matches.

Speaker 2:

Well, fire starters I could see, but firewood I mean. If you're going camping, don't you think that you would? You've got to have water.

Speaker 1:

That's why I said water You've got to have a pooper.

Speaker 2:

You, the three-leaf ones.

Speaker 1:

I mean. So some things that.

Speaker 3:

That pine cone Hard to reach. Spots the pine cone.

Speaker 1:

There you go, so some things that we've watched that have happened to people.

Speaker 1:

You know, besides backing into something, pulling out and hitting the side of something, taking out a limb off of a, a tree, taking out a wire uh, overhead wire um, almost hitting your spouse, it's behind the thing while you're trying to back up, probably not accidentally. We were parked next to a camper and I remember dr domain was somewhere else and I think he was out on the motorcycle and I saw water coming out of this camper next door and I thought, wow, that's a lot of water coming out of there you know, and I had just walked in and here he came on a motorcycle and he pulled up and he goes what's going on over there?

Speaker 1:

And I said I don't know, and he runs over and he shuts their faucet off. Yeah, and just as he did that, the guy that owned the camper come pulling up over there and I said I don't know, and he runs over and he shuts their faucet off. Yeah, and just as he did that, the guy that owned the camper come pulling up. They had two dogs in there and the dog somehow had turned the water on and flooded the whole thing. I mean, it was pouring out. It wasn't like coming out like a faucet, it was pouring out. So when we leave, I don't care if we even go just to walmart we shut our water right and you know, because it's just one less thing that you have to worry about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, and you know some of the other things. I mean we we lock a lot of stuff up, but most people are pretty courteous, and you know aren't going to come over and steal your stuff. What are some other things, Dr Domain, that we've kind of learned to have to do just to kind of survive?

Speaker 3:

I learned a lot of my lessons earlier, so you're the benefit of that Like. So, on a lot of the RVs you've got an inlet to clean out the black tank.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

So plug it in For those of you who are not campers, where all the poop is the pooper. The poop is yeah, poop hopper thing, yeah, the tank with all the goodness um. So the shitter's full tank yeah, all the corn kernels, let's continue, but anyway. So the whore, the, the hose, the hose goes in there the whore goes in that black, so the hose goes in there and horse goes in that black herpinder

Speaker 3:

so the hose goes in there and it cleans out the tank. And then you open up a valve. Well, I didn't have the valve up and I started cleaning the tank out. That opened the valve in a moment.

Speaker 3:

I left, walked around no nate comes around, he's in the back because my, my son, uh, comes over and says dad, and look, and off the side of the camper is just this waterfall of brownness Coming out the vent pipe, because all those tanks have a vent pipe and it filled the tank and the toilet was shut so it sealed. It didn't come up to the toilet, thank.

Speaker 2:

God.

Speaker 3:

And it just found the path of least resistance. So it took, the valve went up, and so what it did, was it created like?

Speaker 1:

a waterfall a you know the hot chocolate fountain thing, it was like that and it just kind of was chunky chocolate. Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 3:

It was like that and it just kind of covered, only it was chunky chocolate.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, that's gross. It was really nasty. That would be terrible.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, don't do that. That's what I learned.

Speaker 1:

Don't do that. Don't do that. That's probably not something, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Putting a pressure regulator on the water.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3:

Otherwise, um, you know, a lot of it comes around the plumbing piece when you're camping you know, emptying the black before you empty the gray and all that fun stuff yeah, and so you know there's just I.

Speaker 1:

I guess you know I just wanted to kind of talk about it. We have a lot of friends who camp, right, and you know, we have a lot of friends who don't and those who don't go. Oh, that would be fun. Oh, so much fun. It's so much fun. It's a lot of stress, it is and it's a lot of work.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it can be real fun to see some great places and you know things like that. But if you don't, if you aren't meticulous in the preparation and things like that of it, you're screwed. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so you know if you're in a tent now you have to buy ice, you have to keep your stuff cold. You know you have to try to do that, but it is. I don't care what anybody says. It's a lot of work, it is. I don't care what you're in. So just think about that, if you know. You say I want to go out and buy an RV.

Speaker 2:

Well, my whole plan is I mean not necessarily an rv, like it may be an old, old winnebago, but you know I'm gonna slap some solar panels on that thing and just leave. And you know, as soon as I can afford to pay off my house and just go, yeah just go, I get it.

Speaker 3:

I think there's something appealing about the minimalist, you know like yeah, yeah, the dry camping, I like that um, you know, getting like a small teardrop or something like that. I think the problem with owning what we own is we're limited. We can't just pull into any place. It's got to be a certain size and so that kind of limits where we can go, and if you're small you pretty much can go almost anywhere. I spent many years not paying for camping.

Speaker 3:

just go to the national forest out in colorado yeah, you don't pay you know you just you find a place, you trail and you just go park alongside or whatever. But it's not so easy. Now the big units.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the big units. You have to remember something's always breaking yeah, I don't care if it's brand new. It's just one more thing to have to fix and they're very costly. And you know, camping equipment or RV equipment is not cheap. Right, it's very expensive. So I think that's probably all we've got to talk about today. We've talked about the campsites, we've talked about the different types of camping, yeah, and the different groups.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, I think that that actually is all the insanity that we have for today. We do appreciate you joining us here at the rabbit hole studio. Be sure to follow us, because we look forward to spending time with you each and every week. Please like us, and if you have positive feedback or if there's a topic you would like us to talk about, or if you have constructive criticism, drop us a short email at boomerandjenexer at gmailcom. If you have hate mail, we're not interested. It can go flying in the black tank with the camper for all.

Speaker 2:

I care. So until next week. I'm Bobbi Joy and I'm Jane Bird, and you're stuck with us Peace out Later.