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A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Phobias and Fears: Navigating Our Deepest Anxieties S:1E:39
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We all have them – those heart-pounding, palm-sweating moments when something triggers our deepest fears. But when does a healthy caution cross into phobia territory? That's exactly what we're unpacking in this revealing conversation.
Fear, as we discover, serves as our natural alarm system. It's that gut response alerting us to potential danger, helping us dodge threats before they strike. A phobia, however, hijacks this system entirely. It transforms reasonable caution into overwhelming anxiety, often completely disproportionate to any actual risk involved.
The personal stories shared in this episode vividly illustrate how differently phobias manifest. Jane describes her paralyzing ophidiophobia (fear of snakes) that can literally cause her to lose consciousness. Dr. Domain reveals the fascinating paradox of his acrophobia (fear of heights) – capable of flying planes thousands of feet up when in control, yet terrified on a ladder just eight feet off the ground. Meanwhile, Bobbi shares her specific fear of driving across water-spanning bridges with her children in the car, haunted by the thought of being unable to save them all in an emergency.
Whether you're curious about the difference between everyday fears and clinical phobias, wondering if your own reactions qualify as phobic, or simply fascinated by the psychology behind our most primal emotions, this episode offers insights that might just help you understand yourself – or someone you care about – a little better. What's your biggest fear? We'd love to hear your story at boomerandgenxer@gmail.com.
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Phobia Workshop Introduction
Speaker 1Welcome you all to the phobia workshop. My name is Lee and I actually have a phobia myself. I have a fear of the word which is spelt a a gh exclamation mark that word. Why don't you tell me about yourselves?
Speaker 2starting with you.
Speaker 1Hi everyone, my name is Jim and I have a fear of apologies. Sorry, sorry, ah.
Fears vs. Phobias Explained
Speaker 2Ah, welcome everyone to today's show. A Boomer and a Gen Xer walk into a bar, coming to you from the Rabbit Hole Studio, where you, as our listener, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smartassery and a mother and daughter questioning. Are we even related? My name is Bobbi Joy and my co-host is my mom, jane, and we are here to entertain for a little while.
Speaker 3Uh-oh, I'm down here in fear of speaking, because you were yelling at me earlier and I didn't want you to yell at me again so I have a feeling.
Speaker 2Maybe it's a phobia?
Speaker 3I'm not really sure, but our topic today is fears and phobias. Fears and phobias what's the difference? What is the difference between a fear and a phobia? I can tell you, can you?
Speaker 2I can all right, a fear is kind of a normal response.
Speaker 3It's a natural and often helpful emotion that kind of helps people to not only perceive what's going on but just kind of react to what's going on. It can be something that you can adapt to, but fear also helps you to avoid danger right, and so it's typically something that has some type of proportionate danger to it, but not a lot. It's what we perceive as a danger. Phobia, on the other hand, involves an exaggerated or persistent fear that is really often out of proportion for what the actual danger is, if there's even a danger there at all, right, so it's a perceived danger and it's really excessive. And uh, phobia comes with intense anxiety that is triggered by whatever the fear is. Now, it could be a situation, it could be an object, it could be a word, I suppose like sorry it could be.
Speaker 2It could even be photos of things yeah, it could not even the real thing, just a photo of it oh my hmm okay. Well, that's the show, folks, and uh so, um, let's talk about that.
Speaker 3Let's talk about do you have any? Let's start with fears.
Speaker 3Do you have any fears, just fear well, I mean, you know the normal ones of you know being a failure to my kids or losing my house, things like that you know the fears that drive me every day to not be a shit bag so the normal human fears of being an adult really kind of yeah, yeah, I'd say so I mean I have other, you know, fears that kind of came along as a result of things happening like your child like, like one specific child um, who survived a horrific incident in school only to uh repeatedly crash his motorcycle on me.
Common Everyday Fears
Speaker 3Yeah, so yeah, that is a fear right there it is, that is a fear.
Speaker 3So I have some fears that usually come to mind around 2.30, 3 o'clock in the morning when I'm trying to sleep and they wake me up and go hey, let's worry about what you did back when you were in fourth grade In music class. Well, that's overthinking, overthinking, I think more anxiety and overthinking that probably is. So the fears, the fears that I have, are have to do with, probably, things that could happen that haven't happened, right, right, um, that's what mine are anyway. So I I think about oh gosh, what if I'm gone and I get into a car wreck and my dogs are here and nobody's here to come get my dogs and somebody forgets that I have the dogs and they starve to death?
Speaker 2I mean, are you going to outlive me, because I know you have the dogs?
Speaker 3No, I'm saying that if something happened. I mean, I've always been here to let the dogs out, I know, but I'm just saying that if something happened to me, okay, you know it's like oh, are they going to check on the dogs, make sure the dogs are okay, or you know, are they gonna do this or that? I mean, there's a lot of stuff that I think about if something happened where I wouldn't follow through on it.
Speaker 2I'd have to rely on you guys to follow okay so that's your example and you know it's hey dr domain, she, she put the dogs above you bud he can think on his end and he can feed himself.
Speaker 3Okay, he can drive he can drive to the store. He can get his own hamburger from the doctor domain. Check on my dogs well, I mean I don't worry about like, do you worry about if, like, the bills would get paid, if some you know, do you worry about that stuff? You do I know I'm poor.
Speaker 2Yeah, I work about that stuff. I get five dollars in my bank and my check engine light comes on. I am not in a good place, but yeah so. So I have fears so like, are you fear? Are you fearful of? Like certain plants? Like, are you fearful of the color blue? No, some of the things that I've heard over the years no, I don't have any of those fears whatsoever.
Speaker 3I just I don't. I don't have anything. You those?
Speaker 2fears whatsoever, I just I don't. I don't have anything you know, not scared of heights? I know you're not scared of heights, I'm not scared of heights.
Speaker 3I'm not afraid of dark places. I'm not afraid to be in, you know, not close to Open water. I am not claustrophobic.
Speaker 2The only time I've ever had a water issue is we were scuba diving and the water.
Speaker 3The sea was really, really rough, so you shouldn't have been scuba diving. Well, no, not scuba diving, did I say scuba?
Speaker 2snorkeling, dear lord, you still shouldn't have been snorkeling. That's even worse yeah, so snorkeling.
Speaker 3What happened was? It made me really sick, and so I had to get back in the boat, yeah, so okay, that was. That was kind of fearful for me, because when people I guess that is kind of a fear, because when I watch shows where people are drowning, yeah, and we mentioned this. Yeah, suffocation I hold my breath and it's like, oh, I can't breathe. Yeah, that's kind of a fear, isn't it? Yeah, that could be considered a fear.
Speaker 2So? So what are your fears there, bobby? Um, besides the normal stuff, uh, driving over bridges that are over water. If my kids are in the car, why?
Speaker 2and I know that's really specific. I know it is. I've always had an issue with bridges. Um, I'm not sure where it came from or anything, because you know whatever, but if my children are strapped, especially when they were younger, if they are strapped in that car and I'm driving over water on a bridge, I'm white knuckling it, I'm barely breathing the whole time, I mean eyes forward. I don't care if my kids are screaming in the back, because my biggest fear was I wouldn't be able to get to all of the kids to release them before they drowned. Yeah, that was I mean, and it still is, even though my kids are basically grown. Yeah, that's a fear of mine. If I have them in the car and I'm driving over a bridge and there's water underneath, that's my big fear, okay I think that's a, I mean, that's a good one right there, but it isn't that you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3Being on a bridge, no, oh God, no, no if I'm by myself, I mean it's whatever.
Speaker 2Okay, but yeah, like I said, especially when they were younger, in car seats and stuff, my biggest fear was if we hit that water, I'm not going to have enough time to release them all.
Speaker 3I think about that, though, too, when.
Speaker 2I have somebody else in the car, especially one of the littles. If I have a little in the car, it's like, oh, I think about that, oh yeah. And when I have all my kids in in the car with me at the same time, it's like this is my entire world right here. Like this is my family in this car. What if some jackass decides to not, you know, go?
Domain's Fear of Heights & Trypophobia
Speaker 3by the line and you go in the pond or into the river or even just getting like t-boned at a red light you know, things like that that yeah that scares the crap out of me I've thought about that when I've had littles in the car, and that's why I don't drink with them in the car anymore. So what about you, doctor? What about Domain? What are your fears?
Speaker 1I developed this really, and this is recently. It's called trypophobia Trypophobia.
Speaker 2No, I've heard of this, okay.
Speaker 1So well, it's not necessarily. I don't know if it's a fear or just a really strong aversion.
Speaker 3Is it like an anxiety about tryp the fish? It's the sight of clusters of holes oh yeah, that's right. Holes or bumps or something, or just a really strong aversion.
Speaker 1Is it like an anxiety about tripe the fish?
Speaker 2It's the sight of clusters of holes. Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1Holes or bumps or something.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's not really a. I don't think it's like officially recognized as a phobia, from what I read.
Speaker 2But I don't. I think it's just a mental disorder. It's like an avoidance. It's probably a mental disorder more than anything.
Speaker 1Probably, I'm just saying Keep that sponge away from me.
Speaker 3I was aware of that because you brought that to my attention before. But you also have another fear that I'm aware of no-transcript. We're listening.
Speaker 2We're listening, we're listening, we listen and we don't touch the fear of being too successful.
Speaker 1What.
Speaker 3What. What is it?
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 3About being too successful. Is that what he said?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2He's using avoidance.
Speaker 1He is no, what is it? What is it he?
Speaker 2doesn't even know.
Speaker 3No, I don't even know what it is A fear of heights. Oh my goodness, yeah. So we had to replace one of the air conditioners on top of that big old motorhome out there. And guess who had to get up there and who had to carry a nine-ton stupid air conditioner up?
Speaker 1there I provided support.
Jane's Snake Phobia Stories
Speaker 3You both provided support yeah, and. Corey was here, but they're heavy and anyway I was up there like four times trying to get things taken care of. So phobias are recognized as a form of anxiety disorder. Specifically, they're categorized as kind of like a social anxiety disorder. They involve persistent, excessive fear or anxiety triggered by a specific object, situation or circumstance. Now I have a phobia yes, you do I know what it is.
Speaker 1I know what it is and I.
Speaker 2I suffered with it for a lot of my life too yeah, it's called.
Speaker 3It's called nomophobia nomo because you got no more money no, it's a fear of being without your phone that's not true. I think that's true that is not true.
Speaker 2Yeah, you have a fear. That's a fear, that's not a phobia.
Speaker 3She no I don't have a phobia.
Speaker 1A phobia does include an irrational fear it does a phobia does yeah it's very irrational, it's more your reaction or extreme or extreme yeah it is yeah I would say that, yeah, nomophobia you're crazy phobia.
Speaker 3I'm not having my phone. Yeah, I could put my phone up longer, then why?
Speaker 2doesn't she ever answer it?
Speaker 3because I'll call right back.
Speaker 2What did you throw?
Speaker 3it in the lake that's another fear.
Speaker 1I told you yeah, I told my phone. My phone's a ringing phobia, and she doesn't want to answer it. Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2She's probably one of them. Damn kids yeah.
Speaker 3I told you that I could go without my phone and that's no problem.
Speaker 2We need to have a challenge.
Speaker 3I'm good with that.
Speaker 2Let's do it. I mean I'm not going to participate but y'all can I've also told you.
Speaker 3She's going to encourage it.
Speaker 1She's going to draw the bet up.
Speaker 3I've also told you what it means when I say I'll call you right back. Yeah, go about your life Enjoy your day. I'm not going to come back and call you back. So I do have a phobia and I will mention what that phobia is.
Speaker 2Can you even say the words yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, I have a phobia of snakes, and it's not people go. Oh, I'm scared of snakes too.
Speaker 2No, no, no. No, you have no idea. I have so many stories you have no idea.
Speaker 3And I remember my ex-sister-in-law said oh, there was a bull snake in my basement and she had a finished basement and everything. And and it's like where'd that come from? And she goes oh, it came up to the drain, I'd burn that mother down. I'm not. That house would have been burnt down before you could even tell the story.
Speaker 2Okay, like when you tried to run over the air conditioner on the south side because of the snake.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, when I was a kid. This is really sad. My you know we were super poor yeah and my mom had a big garden.
Speaker 3God love her. She, you know, worked hard at this garden and she's a good gardener. And we did have a little bitty snapper riding lawnmower that my dad pieced together and I remember she'd tell me to go out and get tomatoes out of the garden. And I ain't walking through that grass to get to the garden. It's not like I had to walk four miles uphill, I didn't, it was just in the backyard. I'd get the mower out and I would ride it to the garden. And this is what's the saddest part she would plant like 60 tomato plants because she canned everything Right, because we had to, and so I would get out there to get the tomatoes and I didn't want to get off the mower, so I would run over the tomato plants to get them. Oh my gosh, she'd go. I know that I planted 60 tomato plants. What happened?
Speaker 2You just had her convinced that she was losing her shit.
Speaker 3Well, you know kind of like what you guys do to me, right, but I do. I definitely have a phobia, and let me tell you how that works. It closes off my throat. I cannot breathe. I have passed out easily. If it comes up on and I have a nephew I'm not going to mention his name, but the little butthead he'll send me reels or some type of meme or something that's got some snake in it that pops up, yeah, in this stupid reel. Just to scare the crap out of me. I can't even touch the tv or pictures or anything like that because they're snakes. So, or the snake skin boots yeah I can't.
Speaker 2Yeah, I, I can't. Snake. Skin creeps me out. Now I did. For a very, very long time I suffered with the same phobia, and I mean it was a phobia to where, yeah, you had a hard time breathing, you couldn't move. There were times that I mean I literally peed my pants seeing a snake I mean there was nothing funny about it? No, and lucky for me, I had a sister who is not scared of snakes.
Speaker 3Yeah, and so she found that out early on and chased me all the time. She put one in the mailbox one time. Oh god, the fear of snakes yeah I can't remember off the top of my head.
Speaker 1I just know I have a phobia of snakes, so um she put one in the mailbox one time ophidiophobia, I think, and I, I, yeah, ophidiophobia, I almost that's have, yeah, so next time you go to the bar you can say, hey, don't break out the snakes, I have ophidiophobia, so here's why you don't tell people now that I've told everybody on the podcast yeah.
Speaker 3Here's why you don't. When I was working out at the plant, I had told the guys. I said I'm just going to tell you right now. I have a phobia of snakes Because you know we had what? 100 and some acres out there Right.
Speaker 3Plus we had to be on site and all that stuff and I said if it lies it dies. So if you see it, you got to kill it. And that's the rule now. And I said if you ever bring a snake up to me or you try to put one in my truck, you try to bring one up to the office, I will fire you for horseplay. There's no question about it. I will fire you for that. And fair warning. It was fair warning because I pass out.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's a literal medical issue with you when it happens yeah, and so what do you do?
Speaker 3I mean, you know, uh, jane come can't come to the meeting right now because she passed out.
Speaker 2Can somebody go pick up Jane on Field 3, Tower 2? We found a snake.
Speaker 3I even thought about getting hypnotized. I wonder if any of our listeners, because of their phobias, have ever tried to get hypnotized. So what's your phobia? Phobia.
Speaker 2Bobby. So that was my big one for most of my life you also have one of getting uh, what's that?
Speaker 3uh disease on a ship scurvy.
Speaker 2That's not a phobia, that's just something you think about three times a day is that a fear?
Speaker 2yeah, yeah, but, and I'll tell my, you know, my snake stuff is I. I think it was a little bit of your phobia, you know, kind of trickling down to me, because I saw how you reacted and my first thought is, oh god, you know, this must be really bad. Now, when I moved back from texas in 2013, one of my really good friends, who we've been best friends since we were 13 years old, he had started his business of breeding ball pythons and so he had, I mean, dozens of snakes in his house, and I always told him I said, I'm not coming to visit you, I can't do it Like I cannot do it, even just knowing they're in the house. I can't step in your house. And so we talked for, I mean, it took a few years between years between you know, every time I would come over, he would cover and hide all the snakes, you know, just to get me in the house, to get over that part and a little girl right.
Common Phobias Breakdown
Speaker 2But at the end of it, I actually walked up to one of his cages and there was a snake I really liked called dick neck, and he'd had him since a baby, and you can imagine why he was called dick neck um, but he'd had him since he was, and you can imagine why he was called dick neck um. But he'd had him since he was a baby and he was one of the ones that he used to desensitize me, basically to these snakes. And I walked right in and I picked him up right out of his cage. I said nothing to nobody, I just did it and it was like a whole switch had turned. But let me tell you it doesn't work for garter snakes, because those things are directly from hell.
Speaker 2I don't care if it's dead or alive. If I see a dead garter snake, I mean like I feel my heart stop.
Speaker 3Isn't it funny how that works, because it doesn't matter. It could be a snake.
Speaker 2That's two inches long and I'm See, and I only seem to have an aversion to garter snakes I mean the other snakes I have no problem what about bull, snakes and stuff? No, I don't have a problem with those. Hmm, no, it doesn't matter how big they are, I mean the venomous ones, not an issue.
Speaker 3So literally, garter snakes so there's a lot of people out there that have phobias, and I mean phobias to like spiders.
Speaker 2Yeah, spiders don't bother me at all I could care less about spiders none of the other critters bother me.
Speaker 3Yeah, none of them, and so a lot of people. So I should post this out on our official website for boomer and gen xer. I posted it today in our georgia house we had one of the cameras. Oh I that we were watching the cat go across the front porch and here's this huge old spider right into the camera and it looks like the spider's ginormous and the cat is like well, that's not our cat and that's not our spider, but I should post that on. Let's do that. We'll post it on the official website.
Speaker 2The Facebook page.
Speaker 3Yeah, so that people can see it. But some people have that to spiders and I think that's more common than what we think.
Speaker 2I think it is too, and anytime I find out that I have a friend or someone I know with a phobia, I know what that feels like. I'm not going to screw around with it. That's not something that I'm going to joke about. It's not something I'm going to chase you with or anything like that. I understand that it's a real thing. Now, if it's just a fear and you just scream like a girl type of thing, okay, I'm going to make fun of you. But no real phobias. I mean, they're nothing to mess around with. They actually have major consequences for the person who has them. It's not like you can just go, oh well, be around them more and you'll be fine. That's that's like telling an asthmatic to go outside for some fresh air because their asthma will be cured.
Speaker 3So do you know what the most common phobia is? And it used to be that people would say well, it's a fear. You know your biggest fear out there is public speaking. That is not true any longer. I would say it's probably heights. It is really your heights. Yeah, yeah, it is that's awesome.
Speaker 2I don't have any fear of heights. I have fear of the landing if I fall I fear that because it stops you so quick. Yeah, I mean that that's what's gonna hurt is the landing nothing else is gonna hurt on the way down.
Speaker 3So you would understand that fear of heights has been pretty prominent, wouldn't you there, Dr Domain?
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm okay in a plane.
Speaker 2Yeah because, you're a pilot.
Speaker 1If I'm flying the plane, I feel like I have control, so I can be thousands of feet over the ground and I had asked you that. But on the ladder. It's not my thing.
Speaker 3Isn't that wild? Because I had asked you that. I said how can you be a pilot and have a fear of heights? It's so weird.
Speaker 2Well, if you're in control. Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1If you're in control, yeah.
Speaker 2Same with a car. I'm a horrible passenger because I'm terrified, no matter who's driving.
Speaker 3I mean, I'm terrified, so I drive. Let me go back to you, doc, um you sometimes have issues.
Speaker 1Going over a bridge, though, and you're in control of the vehicle. Yeah, well, it's the height. I think that's part of it, and it might be mixed with what bobby was saying is it the fear that I was? Just looking that up, it's, it's gero. Phobia is a fear of bridges I don't know so much the bridge itself, but just maybe the travel over the bridge now is it?
Speaker 2is it a specific height for you, like, are you more fearful if you know that there's a possibility you could survive but be a vegetable? Or like you know because up in a plane you're not going to survive? If you fall out of a freaking airplane or you know things like that, there's not a good chance of survival?
Speaker 3The likelihood is slim, yeah, the probability is slim, yeah. The probability.
Speaker 2But I mean, if you fall off, say the motor home, I mean you're, you're most likely gonna survive, but then there's a chance you're gonna be. You're just retarded, wearing a helmet the rest of your life licking elbows or licking windows.
Speaker 3Hey, go out and clean the windows.
Speaker 1I think that's the limit. Is the height of the RV?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, okay so anything that and below you get kind of shaky on yeah. Like maybe the roof of a house.
Speaker 1Maybe eight foot.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's probably where it starts. Anything above that is yeah. Yeah, You're good.
Speaker 3So what do you think the second phobia is?
Speaker 2Okay, so it's fair heights Um.
Speaker 1I think it's a recent phobia too.
Speaker 2A recent one, I don't know my opinion. Fear of no Wi-Fi? No, but that's a good one. Cell signal.
Speaker 3That might be on the list, though, but fear of spiders is number two, oh, okay.
Speaker 1And then number three, legit.
Speaker 3Arachnophobia.
Speaker 2Yep arachnophobia Okay.
Speaker 3Well, I shouldn't say these are in order. Really, I shouldn't even say that, because some of them are not. There's different kinds of phobias. There's generic, based on your everyday life, and then there's other types of things that come up that are psychological, so acrobaphobia.
Speaker 2Here she goes. She does the best she can with the tongue that she has Acrophobia, fear of acrobats.
Speaker 3There's the fear of has Acrophobia.
Speaker 2Fear of acrobats Is the fear of heights.
Speaker 3Oh close, aerophobia is the fear of flying. So there is. You know, it isn't just the fear of heights.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 3We talked about arachnophobia, orphideophobia, orphideophobia.
Speaker 2Smile so I can see if half of your face is drooping, I'm drilling down here, you know that's not funny.
Speaker 3Drooping, I'm drooping down here, you know that's not funny.
Social Anxiety & Technology Fears
Speaker 2Don't say that's not funny to me. I'll start laughing. That's not funny. That is the fear of snakes you said it earlier, dr Domain, I didn't say it earlier. Yeah, a phidiophobia.
Speaker 3Cinephobia is the fear of A movie. No Cinema, I don't know. Cynics, aphidiophobia, cinephobia is the fear of a movie cinema cynics, critical thinking dogs trypanophobia is the fear of cooking bedpans.
Speaker 1We could never get these, could we? Is the fear of cooking Bedpans.
Speaker 3We could never get these, could we Injections?
Speaker 2Needles. Oh, and you know, there is a difference between the fear of like an injection or a blood draw and the fear of a tattoo, so Completely different.
Speaker 3So do you? Are you fearful of getting your blood drawn or of?
Speaker 2a shot no.
Speaker 3So do you just watch it? Oh yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1Oh, I watch yeah, that's a real thing. So my son and my ex-wife had the same condition as vasovagal and actually they have physical reaction to it.
Speaker 3Meaning like they pass out.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, they pass out, they like clock out.
Speaker 3Because of blood, I was out.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah they pass out. They like clock out, because I was in the hospital. Yeah, blood, I was in the hospital and my son coughed up a little blood because he had gotten his tonsils out and she stood up to excuse herself. We're in the hospital. She walked like four paces and boom, yeah, right there at the hospital. Yeah, it's a physical thing, it turns into a physical hospital. Yeah, it's a physical thing, it turns into a physical thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't understand. I mean, it's in your body and you see it all the time.
Speaker 3I don't have any problem watching anybody else Could you?
Speaker 2imagine being a woman on your menstrual cycle and having that type of issue.
Speaker 1How does that work? Pneumophobia, I think is it, yeah.
Speaker 2Fear of blood.
Speaker 3Yeah, how does that work? Well, yeah, but you just said that she had a phobia of blood.
Speaker 1I wasn't around, I didn't hang out during those moments.
Speaker 2Oh, so she just passed out on the bathroom floor and free bled all over the place. What'd you do?
Speaker 3Go on a fishing trip. Every time she had her period, he took off in the plane.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1That's right. I'm working on my own fears Back off.
Speaker 2I wonder, how that would work, though I mean honestly, because I don't know. Could you imagine somebody that gets nosebleeds all the time and you pass out every time you see blood? That would be crazy. I'd have to wear a helmet, my youngest son is the same.
Speaker 1He'll turn ghost white and he'll just shut down.
Speaker 3That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1Can't give blood, not a. Thing.
Speaker 3So again, I would kind of like to know what our listeners, how they react, because not everybody reacts the same right. Some people scream, some people lose their breath, some people pass out, some people run, some people throw up, some people throw up exactly. I'd like to know how our listeners respond and what their phobia or their fear is. If it's a phobia, it's going to be pretty severe. If it's a fear, it's a fear. That's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2Well, they can still be severe to the person, it's just not a.
Speaker 1I don't believe that. That number one phobia, what did you say it was? It was like public speaking.
Speaker 3No, it used to be public speaking, now it's heights I don't agree with that okay. Well, thank you for your opinion.
Speaker 1No, I'm just saying I, I think, well, I and I, I think that with the evolution of social media and all these other garbage sites, that a lot of people have anxiety around social, social, anxiety.
Speaker 3What would that be called?
Speaker 1fear of being a human and interacting with folks in a normal manner phobia I don't know what you call it well um, I'm just saying that I think that's the real thing I think you're probably right, but I don't, I don't know that it's like officially categorized, but um, and it's not a phobia, though.
Speaker 3It's just a fear, because I don't react like a human extreme, oh um mysophobia, which is excessive fear of germs and dirt oh, wait a second.
Speaker 2You don't have excessive reactions I don't have a phobia.
Speaker 3Yes, you do no, yes you do no, help me out Domain.
Speaker 1What was the phobia again?
Speaker 3Germs and dirt.
Speaker 1Germaphobe yeah.
Speaker 2I don't know it's probably a slang. Is it a fear for her or is it a phobia?
Speaker 3I think it's just a fear.
Speaker 2It's a phobia. You got it 100%.
Speaker 1I think she's just being cautious. She doesn't want to catch anything.
Speaker 3He's such a Just suck up. Gonna have that milk bone underwear later. So there is a social phobia which is a phobia, excuse me, a social phobia which is a fear of social situations. I think a lot of people have that, especially those who you know sit in their parents' basement and play games all the time and can't really face the real world.
Speaker 2Well, and I think a lot of this did pop up during the pandemic, when everybody was locked down as well. I mean, you have college students that were coming into college when that started and they graduated before they could even attend a class in person.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's true, that is true. So there is what's called a cyberphobia. A cyberphobia, okay, or?
Speaker 2technophobia, so the fear of AI becoming too powerful.
Speaker 3You know, that's my fear. I'm serial as a heart attack.
Speaker 2I mean they can have it. I'm serious Something's got to work.
Speaker 3I mean everything else breaks. I mean, nothing runs right and yet you're going to put these robots Anyway. So cyberphobia or technophobia is the fear or anxiety associated with being away from or without a Wi-Fi connection. Boom, boom, yep, yep, yep yep, it's often linked to nomophobia, which is a fear of being without your mobile phone. That's not me.
Speaker 2You keep pointing at me and that's not true, I mean, I'm telling you every time she.
Speaker 1You do have anxiety. I think she throws it in the lake all the time. Yes, you're like where's my phone? Your technophobia.
Speaker 2Where's my will be it just raves.
Speaker 1You know what it's true. It is true Admit it. You're like where's my whoopee? Bring it up to me. No, yes.
Speaker 3Because you do it as much, if not more. Where's my phone? Where'd I put my keys? Where's my coat? Did you see where I put that?
Speaker 2screwdriver, I just sat down. It has nothing to do with not being able to be without your mobile phone. You just went off. Okay, what did?
Speaker 1you call it Deflecting.
Speaker 2Yeah, she's deflecting, deflecting.
Speaker 3I'm taking lessons from Bobby on how to speak highbrow, how to speak eyebrow, highbrow, highbrow, highbrow. Oh, I see. So, bobby, did you tell us what your?
Ocean Fears & Final Thoughts
Speaker 2phobia was. Yeah, I said the snake thing. I mean the garter snake thing is definitely Other than that. I don't know that I actually have. I mean I have an intense fear of open ocean. I definitely have that.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2You know, like the deepest parts and stuff, I don't want to see a megalodon. I don't want the giant squid, I don't want to see a megalodon.
Speaker 3I don't want the giant squid, I don't want any of it. I want to see all that.
Speaker 1That's why that's If you still see the kraken, the kraken. Oh my God, you got to say it that way.
Speaker 2Now would I go like Would I learn how to the kraken the?
Speaker 1kraken, the kraken.
Speaker 2Scuba dive Well, even in open ocean. Because I want to go to the Bermuda Triangle, I would dive there.
Speaker 3Dr Domain does.
Speaker 1Wait, wasn't that on an earlier episode we talked about superpowers?
Speaker 3Yes, mine was to go into water as deep as I possibly could. Well, but I don't want to go deep. I'll go see the wrecks, but open ocean.
Speaker 2I can't see land. No, no, thank you, nope.
Speaker 1That's interesting. Or you could put a. You know, if your mom had the superpower, put a saddle on her and you could go wherever you want in the ocean.
Speaker 2What am I going to do? What Bring it through her ears? That is so bizarre. How would I bring it? That is so bizarre, that's a weird superpower. Why would I want to saddle my mom? Exactly? That's a weird superpower.
Speaker 3Superpower is this a bizarre sexual thing with you. What is going? On google search history I know I don't even want to look at it saddling up a boomer the fear of dying and not clearing your search history before your family gets.
Speaker 2That is fearful.
Speaker 3that is fearful, or you know your nightstands Clear those out.
Speaker 2You know, I mean the granny porn. I don't know.
Speaker 3Hey, you don't know what granny porn's all about. It's not that bad, it's pretty darn good, oh my God.
Speaker 2I'm just saying it's just regular porn for you it is that's right.
Speaker 3All I have to do is stand in front of the mirror.
Speaker 2That's it, you go of the mirror. That's it, you go. Oh okay, no, we're not. No, we're not. We're done with god. How do we always get into this?
Speaker 3this is wrong well, I don't know that I have anything else. I mean, did you have anything else? Uh, bobby, that, um, you thought was a fear or a phobia?
Speaker 2I don't think so. I mean, I really don't care. I don't have a fear of people not liking me. I don't have a fear of you know things.
Speaker 3I don't give a shit but so I mean when we were talking about the snakes and when I say a phobia. I would put my arm inside of an alligator, no problem. I would be covered in spiders, no problem, I would. You know what else is there? I mean, there's nothing else that I'm fearful of Right.
Speaker 3It's like, okay, I can do all of that, and even a really long worm is okay, but not a snake, a really long worm. And here's the biggest advantage I have having my dogs. They are snake killers. They love to kill those snakes and I love the fact that they do it mine just barks at them. Her two brain cells don't work together oh man, my, my dogs need to come over to your house because, they teach my dog how to dog here's how you're supposed to take care of those snakes follow us.
Speaker 3Well, I think that's probably all we have for today. It was fun, though, and I really would like to know what some of our listeners have for phobias and how they actually respond to them, because some of it can be a real mental or health issue for a lot of us. So, anyway, we appreciate you joining us here at the rabbit hole studio. Be sure to follow us. We look forward to spending time with you guys each and every week. I don't know if you saw out on our facebook page, but we hit some milestones and we are so excited about that yes, we are in 11 countries now and 161 cities and um.
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