A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Wit and wisdom, some smart assery, and a Mother and Daughter questioning “Are we even related?”
A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
From Ancient Romans to TikTok: How Human Cleanliness Has Evolved and Devolved S:1 E:43
Ever wondered what strange hygiene habits people are hiding? Bobbi Joy and her mother Jane pull back the shower curtain on some of humanity's most questionable cleanliness practices in this eye-opening conversation.
The duo dives straight into the shocking confessions people make on social media about their personal hygiene—from those who believe soap "cascading" down their bodies cleans their feet to the surprising number of people who never wash their belly buttons. Their candid mother-daughter banter tackles bathroom controversies you've probably never considered: Is your toothbrush collecting airborne bathroom particles? Should clean towels really be stored in the bathroom? And why are some women still hovering over toilet seats?
The conversation takes a fascinating historical turn as Jane shares her childhood experiences with outhouse living and catalog-page toilet paper, while Bobbi reveals how ancient civilizations managed everything from body odor to birth control. You'll learn why the Farmer's Almanac still has a hole punched in it, what powdered wigs were really covering up, and why medieval Europeans carried flowers (hint: it wasn't just for decoration).
Between fits of laughter and occasional gasps of disgust, the pair debates modern hygiene dilemmas like proper nose hair maintenance, the etiquette of "farmer blows," and whether letting pets sleep in your bed compromises cleanliness. Their warm, unfiltered discussion feels like eavesdropping on a particularly entertaining family dinner conversation—one where no topic is too taboo.
Whether you're secretly questioning your own hygiene practices or just enjoy a good cringe, this episode delivers equal parts education and entertainment. Share your own weird hygiene habits or burning questions by emailing boomerandgenXer@gmail.com—they promise to keep your confessions private, even if they know who you are!
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Welcome everyone to today's show. A boomer and a Gen Xer walk into a bar, coming to you from the rabbit hole studio, where you, as our listeners, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smart assery and a mother and daughter questioning. Are we even related? My name is Bobby Joy and my co-host is my mom, jane, and we are here to entertain you for a little while. How you doing, mom? I'm doing great, bobby. How are you? I'm good.
Jane:Yeah, I asked you today. Oh yeah, because sometimes you just leave me hanging. Yeah, yeah, so what's new pussycat? I've asked that before.
Bobbi:before I start singing, Before you start singing and then we're all like no, please no, please yeah. So what's new? Well, this episode should be coming out, oh right around the beginning of august. So I would say, um, it's been hot yeah but you know what.
Jane:Anybody can go in and look at the library and pick out whatever they want to listen to right, true, but what I'm saying when it, when it first gets published?
Bobbi:it's going to be beginning of august. So I'm sure, like the last couple of days here it's it's hot and sticky and it is here.
Jane:It is here for sure. So, um, hey, so you have a pretty good topic that you wanted to talk about today is, I do.
Bobbi:Yeah, speaking of hot and sticky and gross, let's talk about some weird or gross hygiene or bathroom habits that people have.
Jane:Oh my gosh, do we really want to tackle that?
Bobbi:Well, you know, I'm telling you, I was pretty naive until things like tiktok and instagram came along and these people are on here saying will I do this? And I'm like why would you tell anybody that? Yeah, why, don't you just keep that to yourself? Is it that gross? I mean, some of it is yeah, some of it's really bad. Wow, are we going to get into?
Jane:that I think that we are. Oh gosh, I hope our listeners are paying close attention, but what if they have some of those weird hygiene habits?
Bobbi:Bless their hearts.
Jane:Bless your little heart. Well, maybe they'll write in to us and let us know one way or another, or maybe they have a weird hygiene habit that we don't talk about today and we'll add that to our collection.
Bobbi:I mean, if they want to out themselves, I'm all for it.
Jane:We keep everything private, though we don't tell anybody about who submitted anything, so it's okay with us, right?
Bobbi:But we know, Be forewarned yes that is true, we do know. So what do you think? What do you think some of the things that people are finding out about other people's hygiene habits, you know, on social media and stuff what do you think some of those are you mean like today.
Jane:Like today when we talked about doing this topic a while back, I started looking up ancient you know. Like back in the day, yeah, I mean there was a lot of weird shit going on back then yeah, and we'll talk about that, but you're talking about things that come up on TikTok now.
Bobbi:Yeah, today.
Jane:So weird hygiene habits.
Bobbi:Like a weird or a gross one that you can see people admitting to.
Jane:They're not like cleaning their bungholes with toothbrushes or something, are they?
Bobbi:I'm sure somebody is.
Jane:I sure hope we didn't give anybody that idea.
Bobbi:No.
Jane:Well, give me one that I can be grossed out by.
Bobbi:So one that actually ran TikTok for a while and I know has been in a lot of my groups on Facebook, was the fact that a lot of people found out that people, when they take a shower, was the fact that a lot of people found out that people, when they take a shower, they don't scrub or wash their lower legs or feet. They think that the soap just falls down over it and it's clean. That's pretty gross. That's disturbing to say the least.
Jane:Yeah, because how do you get all that crappy dirt off and that scaly skin and your feet are so gross.
Bobbi:It just kind of captures down people are admitting they don't wash their lower half of their legs or their feet if they're in the shower, because they it cascades down and so they just think that it like a car wash it just kind of like who's off. So is that the same way with their butt? God, god, I hope not. You keep bringing up this butt thing.
Jane:I don't know what your deal is. I mean, if it's all rolling off and rolling downhill, you kind of go. Are they even reaching around to clean their?
Bobbi:butts. One thing that came up with it was another part that people don't seem to actually clean, and that's their belly button.
Jane:Well, I don't clean my belly button. I mean, what do you do?
Bobbi:Well, you have like an Audi, don't you?
Jane:No, I have a Nanny, but it's not like it's. You know, it's not like it's.
Bobbi:You don't clean your belly, but you don't stick some soap in there with your finger and scrub it out.
Jane:What do you want me to do? Take, like you know, some type of scrubber brush in there. I mean there, I mean you can get a baby bottle brush and just a bowl brush.
Bobbi:Okay, look my belly button, for some ungodly reason, is about the size of a shot glass. Okay, I don't know why it's like this, but it has been ever since I was little, and she's looking for a partner.
Jane:She's looking for a life partner. No, I'm not for someone and now. She just told you about her belly button no, I'm not looking for anybody.
Bobbi:First of all. Second of all, I have to wash. You have to wash your belly button out. That is so gross, my body.
Jane:I mean it's. You know it's like I'm washing my stomach, so doesn't it kind of get washed? No, I have to get.
Bobbi:You have to reach in there and wash it. How would it get like a?
Jane:headlamp on and stick my head down you're just making it difficult.
Bobbi:Just stick your finger in there and rub it around and then rinse it.
Jane:I mean gross, Okay, well, I guess I'll pay attention to that next time. Okay so people don't clean their belly buttons? I didn't know that was a no, you licka. I think that was on Saturday Night Live. No, that was on saturday night live no that was the orbits commercial. What? Oh, that's right, you love and lick? Yeah, because they couldn't cuss yeah, yeah, that was funny anyways okay all right, so there's one. What, what else?
Bobbi:um. Where do you store your bath towels?
Jane:where do I store them? Yeah, I have a rack on the wall where we roll them up and put them on the rack in the bathroom. Yeah, that's a horrible habit or they go underneath the sink rolled up, and I know you're gonna say anytime somebody farts or pees, all of that come kind of splashes out. Those germs splash, splash out and get onto your towels.
Bobbi:You're close. It's between the moisture from taking showers and you know some people don't close the lid on their toilet, things like that. Yeah, your bath towels that are clean, that are stored openly in your bathroom, aren't clean.
Jane:Well, no, there's your toothbrush, that's sitting on top of the counter.
Bobbi:Why would you put your toothbrush on top of the counter?
Jane:Why would it be above the? Because it's plugged in. Where do you want me to put it?
Bobbi:In the bathtub with me. Have them make a drawer with a plug in it. I mean, you make everything, oh my God. Anyways, no, why would you store your toothbrush on the counter? Oh my, oh my God. Well, wait a second.
Jane:Hold on. Hold on hold on. We're finding out all kinds of things today, slow down Because, let's face it, when you go to buy one of those little cup holders that's got the little toothbrush holders on the side, you know the little slots yeah, why would I buy those? But I'm saying that that's what you've always seen in bathrooms, right?
Bobbi:Or you see it that sits on top of the counter Okay, but just because something is aesthetically pleasing, like decorative, doesn't mean that it's safe or should be used Like. I would never put my toothbrush on the counter in the bathroom. That's like eating a ham sandwich while you're on the toilet. Why would you?
Jane:do that. Well, what's wrong?
Bobbi:with that. Oh my God, Listen, I can get behind a shower beer or a glass of wine in the tub, but the minute you take a Subway sandwich into the bathroom because you've got to sit on the toilet, we're done.
Jane:I don't know who you are Really. What's the difference between that and taking your phone in?
Bobbi:You're wiping your butt.
Jane:You're wiping everything, you're touching everything.
Bobbi:You flush the toilet, you sit it on the floor.
Jane:You're swiping left swiping right.
Bobbi:My phone is filthy, I'm not going to say anything about it.
Jane:I don't think people really recognize that, that they take it in with them and then they come walking home, but you'll put your freaking toothbrush on the counter.
Bobbi:Shh God, I had such high expectations for you in this, with you being your little germaphobe thing. I had such high expectations for you.
Jane:First of all, my sink counter is not like right on top of my toilet. It doesn't matter, it's in the same room. Okay, all right, point taken, point taken. I hope our listeners have something to say about that. All right.
Bobbi:Okay, here's one more. Here's one more. Here's one more, okay. So when you get out of the shower or the bath and you dry off, do you put on antiperspirant or deodorant right away? I do not. I wait until I'm dry. Very good, too many people get out and dry off and think that they're dry, and then they apply an antiperspirant or a deodorant, not realizing that it's immediately going to render it ineffective. Ineffective why.
Jane:Because it dilutes it.
Bobbi:Because your skin is still moist and it takes that as the sweat and then it breaks it down.
Jane:No, I don't. I wait until my body's kind of dry, and plus, because back in the day, deodorant was kind of white and so when you put your clothes on, it would kind of cake up on your clothes. So I don't ever put deodorant on until I'm absolutely dressed, because then I don't have to worry about it. You know getting on my clothing, right. So I'm going to push you back in time, though, though, because there were some and we'll come back to you. Yeah, no, I, yeah, we're good. So there were some strange hygiene uh practices throughout history, that's for sure. Um, and this is funny because do you know what before? Do you know when toilet paper was actually introduced to the United States?
Bobbi:To the United States. Yeah, I want to say it was late 1800s.
Jane:Yeah, it was like late 1800s, first part of 1900s, and you know what people used before that Cloth.
Bobbi:Some did use cloth their hand. The three shells method the three shells method Newspapers Okay.
Jane:A sock, the three shells method, the three shells method newspapers, okay, so a sock. So what's happening right now, folks? Just so you know is dr domain is over here giving sign language to bobby and my brain is like pictures and she's like doing charades or something like two words it is toilet paper. No Stretch pants, stretch Armstrong, louis Armstrong, and this was really not all that uncommon. Corn cobs, so corn cobs were used.
Bobbi:That seems legit.
Jane:You know because? And the corn isn't on it.
Bobbi:That would be awkward because you'd skip a whole step of eating it. So it kind of acted like a scraper of sorts yeah you know, to I mean, that makes sense yeah, to wipe your butt.
Jane:now I'm going to tell you. I've said this we were dirt poor. When I was really little, we lived in a house that had no bathroom. We had an outhouse and we lived in town, yeah, and we had an outhouse and we lived in town, yeah, and we had an outhouse and we used the catalogs.
Bobbi:Oh, like the Sears catalogs. Yeah, the JCPenney catalog Montgomery Ward In the mail.
Jane:You'd get catalogs, you know in newspapers and all kinds of stuff In the mail and we always used that and so this is going to sound funny. So we would tear the page out and we would rub it together with our fists to make it softer yeah, I've had to do that.
Bobbi:I've had to do that. Yeah, you rub it, you like crumple it up and then you rub it together and it makes it soft.
Jane:It makes it softer, yeah, and then you can wipe your butt, yeah, so listen to this. So the farmer's almanac was published and people would read it and then use it for their butt wiping, and so people would drill a hole in the farmer's almanac book to hang it to hang it in the outhouse farmer's almanac then decided they'd put the hole in their forum and even today the farmer's almanac has a hole in it.
Jane:Well, even today, some people are still wiping this well, you know, and I mean I'm not listen, I would use it if I had to.
Bobbi:You know, I mean listen, there's been many a concerts and stuff that I've gone to that I went to the port-a-potty and wished I had a farmer's almanac, because there was nothing, there's, nothing, there's nothing and you kind of go is this a drip dry station here?
Jane:because because I'm gonna be here for a while and or am I gonna crust over what's gonna go on here? But uh, yeah, they, we, we had to use that. So anyway, there's legit. Or here's another one leaves. Yeah, you know you had to use leaves and anybody who's been out hunting or anybody who's been out in the forest or camping and you have absolutely nothing. You're gonna reach for that. You're not gonna reach for the three, leaves ones no, well, I mean, if you're allergic to it.
Bobbi:No, I don't have. I don't have an allergy to it I don't either, yeah but you know, or I guess you I'd hate to find out that I developed one that way. Yeah, no kidding.
Jane:Your butt would be on fire, wouldn't it? It'd be like somebody put Tabasco sauce on it, and so the other thing I guess you could do is just kind of scoot across the lawn like a dog with worms to wipe your butt.
Dr.Domain:Well you heard about the bear that was in the forest.
Bobbi:Oh Lord.
Dr.Domain:A rabbit comes up to him and the bear says to the rabbit hey, does this poop stick to your fur? And the rabbit says, well, no, Grabbed the rabbit and wiped his ass with him.
Jane:I knew this was going to be bad.
Bobbi:The second he started oh my God.
Jane:That's like a bad dad joke right there. That's horrible. That is terrible right there. What else do you have, Bobby?
Bobbi:I thought we were still on the ancient stuff. Oh, okay, what else we got?
Jane:So this is interesting too, so Passoi which is ceramic fragments. In ancient Greece and Rome they used these. They were like scraping tools. They were almost like broken ceramic pieces. Yeah For the oil. They would scrape their posteriors clean.
Bobbi:I thought, because they cover themselves in oil and then scrape it off to clean their skin.
Jane:No, but I mean, I guess it would be kind of like using an ice scraper on your asshole. Scraper on your butt and so you know. But no, it was ceramic fragments and that was in ancient Greece and Rome.
Bobbi:Is. All you looked up is butt stuff. No, okay, no, I didn't so.
Jane:I have another one. It wasn't butt stuff, but in medieval times laundry involved stomping or beating clothes in the river and they would sometimes add wood ash to help clean it. But also clothing would be washed in urine to kill the bacteria. They thought, okay, so, yeah. So in recent times, of course, you know we know better. Well, we know better, but you know a lot of people will use ammonia and things like that to really kill things off or bleach or whatever.
Jane:But, yeah, they really and truly thought that pee, they would take the pots chamber pots and they would empty them, and sometimes they would even sell it as a detergent.
Bobbi:Still probably cleaner than the rivers now.
Jane:Well, potentially Well, potentially Possibly. Another one that I will mention is you know, in England or in Europe, you know they used to wear wigs.
Bobbi:Okay, yeah.
Jane:In Europe, anywhere in Europe, so they used to wear the wigs.
Bobbi:And do you know why? Because they had something funky on their head Lice.
Jane:Oh, lice was so bad that they would wear the wigs to help cover their head, then cover up the lice, and the wigs were cleaned with a powder and so, yeah, that was, and they stunk really, really bad.
Bobbi:Could you imagine how itchy that would be, though? Because, like, first of all, no fans, no air conditioning they stunk really, really bad. Could you imagine how itchy that would be, though?
Jane:because, like, first of all, no fans, no air conditioning you got lice on your freaking head and you put this heavy wig over it, yeah and you're sweating you're you got those, yeah, oh man yeah, and also, um, the women, you know, wore the long dresses and the high boots, you know, like the hook and eye boots, and they wore the long dresses and they would carry flowers in their hands to smell so that they didn't have to smell other people.
Bobbi:It would help them with the scent and things like that. I'd just walk around with one of those plague masks full of flowers if I was back then. They did have masks back then too, that's what I'm saying.
Jane:I mean, I would just shove it full of flowers if I was back then.
Bobbi:They did have masks back then too. That's what I'm saying, though I mean I would just shove it full of flowers. There was no way.
Jane:Bathing was kind of a ritual that you didn't do all the time right. They didn't bathe every single day.
Bobbi:It had to be warm, and then they had to have they heated up the water and things like that.
Jane:You had to have chambermaids that came in and poured your water in and all that crap. But they didn't wash their clothing like we do. Like, I wear my clothes once and it's in the washer right, I don't wear it a couple times.
Bobbi:Unless you had like servants, you really didn't have people washing your stuff every day, Right, right. So how do you?
Jane:wash it. You take it down the river, you pound, you take it down the river, you pound it on some stones.
Bobbi:Just hang it over the balcony and let it air out a little bit. Yeah, I suppose, yeah, I mean yeah.
Jane:Yeah, I suppose you could. So the other thing that I wanted to mention is like women would use different flowers to rub on their bodies to help smell better right, yeah bodies to help smell better, right, and some of the um um makeup that women you know, like blush and lipstick and things like that. I can't remember what it was made of, but it was like toxins you know everything was back then.
Bobbi:Yeah, and like, here's your lead makeup, be sure to rub it in. Yeah, yeah, lead was one of them.
Jane:Yeah, that's for sure. And so the other thing. This is kind of funny. So when somebody says, oh, excuse me, I have the vapors, what does that mean to you?
Bobbi:The vapors yeah, I have the vapors when they're lightheaded and stuff. What do you think it?
Jane:Do you know what that means Mr. Dr Domain.
Dr.Domain:They're farting.
Jane:They're farting. I have a bad case of the vapors. I mean they got gas and they're farting, and most Southern people know that because it really was kind of a saying back then.
Dr.Domain:That's what this saying I always use what. That's what you say.
Jane:Yeah, I've never heard you say anything, you just the only thing I've ever heard. You say anything, you just the only thing I've ever heard you say is something really loud. Okay, loud and rumbly, that's what I hear you say. So what else do you have, bobby um I have.
Bobbi:So a lot of people are very self-conscious about like the hair on their face and things like that.
Jane:But because the older we get, it goes from the top of our head older, I mean like even some younger people, you know they do, they do yeah but um, nose hairs, leave them alone unless you just get the very outsides of them.
Bobbi:People are like tomahawking their nose hairs, so they have like no nose hairs on the inside of their nose. There's no health benefit to it.
Jane:It's actually detrimental to your health I know that it does cat, it's like a filter, yeah, and it catches stuff, but it's pretty gross to see hair sticking out.
Bobbi:Well, yeah, I'm saying like you know, trim it a little bit, but these people are like going in full force and taking all their nose hair out. They wax the inside of their nose. Yeah, I can't.
Jane:And have you seen some of them that get stuck in there and they go to pull them out?
Bobbi:and it's like, oh my gosh.
Jane:I could never do that. I would vomit yeah that would kill me. That would be so bad because I've had, like my eyebrows waxed before. That kills me. They've pulled my skin off my eyebrows yeah, you can lose layers of skin.
Jane:I know it's, don't do that well, now I microblade, yeah, you know, going in tattoo it. But yeah, oh man, that that stuff hurts. But talking about you know your hair going for a woman anyway, uh, most women know this, that you know your hair starts to thin when you get older on top of your head and then it just kind of gathers itself up and says, hey, let's join forces on her chin and and there are times when we can't see them- not, unless we're in traffic and the sunlight hits it just right and you look in the mirror yeah, I have a pair of tweezers in my truck for that.
Bobbi:Yeah, that's the perfect light right there.
Jane:But there's times when I've gone somewhere, like I've gotten dressed up to the nines and I've gone out. My makeup looked great, my hair looked great. I get home that night and I got a hair on my chin that I'm surprised I didn't put an eye out with it. It's like if I'd have gotten too close with somebody I could have really impaled them.
Bobbi:that's why nobody got close to you that's probably true.
Jane:So what's, what's?
Bobbi:another weird or gross one that you can think of um uh farmers blows oh, snot rockets. Yeah, so it took me a second.
Jane:Yes, not rockets so blowing your nose, and so I'll give you a little history on this. Uh, back in, you know, when the british were coming uh their uniforms, the, they used to use their sleeves to wipe their nose. And it got to a point where they were so disgustingly awful that they started putting buttons on the sides of the sleeves so that it would kind of make them refrain from wiping their nose on their sleeves. Well, it didn't, but that was what the whole purpose of those buttons on their sleeves was all about. But if you know a farmer or you know somebody who lives out in the country, you know what a farmer blow is. Yep, and that's where they hold one nostril closed and they just give it a big old blow. Yep, and it's so gross it is.
Bobbi:I will admit I've had to do it a few times, but yeah, no, it's. It's horrifying to see, it's horrifying to witness it's horrifying to see, it's horrifying to witness.
Jane:Oh gosh.
Bobbi:It's horrifying to hear. You can hear it across the field.
Jane:Because once they do it, what do you wipe the rest of that off your nose with?
Bobbi:Yeah.
Jane:Your hand.
Bobbi:Yeah, no, not rockets, yeah, and then.
Jane:I'm going to eat my lunch with that same hand. So do you do farmer's blows there? Dr Domain.
Dr.Domain:Have you ever done them? Yeah, if I, if I had to. Yeah, I didn't have any other options yeah, so it's pretty gross, though, wouldn't you say yeah, yeah, I try and make it a habit of I try and carry a kleenex or a handkerchief. You do.
Jane:You're really good at that, and I think that's a gentleman's practice right there, because he does uh carry a uh handkerchief and if anybody needs it he makes it available. Of course, he doesn't use it again after that.
Bobbi:I was going to say I'm just going to stick it in my pocket and off of the next person to use it.
Jane:This isn't really a bizarre one, but spitting, when people spit in public like they'll just and spit.
Dr.Domain:Oh, I okay, that's so gross.
Jane:When you're sucking, you're trying to cough up phlegm out of the back of your throat, which is nothing more than snot.
Bobbi:Okay, that's different than just like just spitting Like I've had, I've had to. You know, first of all, you don't spit on sidewalks, you like that, you go in the grass or whatever. But you're kind of encompassing what I had said in a previous episode about people blowing their nose in public or in front of other people. That all rolls into the snot rocket, the you know hawk and a loogie type of thing. Yeah, all that rolls together for me. Don't do any of that crap don't do it.
Jane:Have you ever been around somebody that, instead of sniffing like this, going like that, that with their nose that they go I don't even know, oh my God Like that? That is so gross. So what are they doing? They're sucking that snot out of their nose and down their throat and swallowing it, and it's so, so.
Bobbi:You were not prepared for me to be able to do that. Oh my god, I can't blow my nose. Is the problem? Because when I blow my nose I have eardrum problems and I can take myself out with blowing my nose wrong. But um, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Jane:Oh my gosh, when I was working, we we had a manager that we would be in meetings and, you know, somebody would be talking and all of a sudden and he did it with his mouth closed. So it would be like I came to it, yes, and he would do it all the time and I'd look over and I'm like I'm looking at him like seriously, dude.
Bobbi:Now disclaimer. That's not what I sound like when I do it. I just do the type thing yeah, but no, I don't do the whole type.
Jane:No, I can just do it because I know what you're talking about. It is so gross. I mean, it could give you the dry heaves, just. Now you know how I feel when people blow their nose in front of me, but you know what's going down right, you know they're sucking that green crap back in the back of your throat and then it's gonna be swallowed down into your stomach, and then pretty soon.
Bobbi:Oh, it's just gross I don't know, I've swallowed worse than my own, did you know?
Jane:back in the day, some people used urine as mouthwash.
Bobbi:Yes, and guess what they still do today? What, oh my god? There's a whole movement of the urine for mouthwash, eye drops, things like that, and people are getting really sick from it, like sir duh seriously sick and they're like I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've been putting urine in my eyes for 10 days now and I can't see. It's like can we take the warning labels off of everything at this point, because let's, let's let it sort out. I'm over it.
Jane:That is so it's so gross, horribly gross, it's so gross so what's another one that you have on your list?
Bobbi:uh, my biggest one, and I'm guilty of this no way give me a minute my blue fuzz what. What about them? How gross they are. They're awful, they're horrible. Yeah, absolutely. Or reusing a wash rag, because I would prefer to use a clean wash rag in the shower and then put it in the laundry as soon as I'm done with my shower, but to hang up and reuse a wash rag is just as gross.
Jane:I've reused mine. No, it's gross, but I don't you know like reusing somebody else's. Other people have done that.
Bobbi:Like they reuse. Yes, no, missing you with that.
Jane:You could have five people getting in that shower and somebody else is reusing your wash rag and you think no you're going to probably wipe your face with that and I just wipe my butt. Yeah, no reusing.
Bobbi:I very have very rarely used it. I don't even know why it's in my shower anymore, but I prefer just a clean wash rag. Throw it in the laundry when you're done with your towel. Stop hanging your towel up to use three or four times. By the way, it's not. It's not good, it's gross.
Jane:You know, one thing that I really don't like at all is like you go into a woman's restroom and sometimes you have a. You have a seat cover and sometimes you don't to use. Right, you pull out the paper seat covers and sometimes you have, I've seen them.
Bobbi:Yeah, I've seen them.
Jane:I know what you're referencing I know I know the diagram.
Jane:But yeah, you know you go to sit down. Somebody's peed on that seat. That's because they're hovering, because they're hovering and it. Why are you hovering? Because you're afraid. Go to the men's room, exactly. So I just want to say this real quick because you've said it I'm a germaphobe, I know it. You've made a big deal about it. Yeah, what is it you think you're going to contract off of that seat? Because you just set your purse down on the floor of that bathroom, or and then you've taken it back to your table at the restaurant and set it on top of the restaurant table, or you've set it on top of the bar, or your phone is just touched after you wiped your butt. What is it you think you're going to contract from that toilet seat?
Bobbi:because you're not well, and here's the thing if nobodyvers, nobody pees on the seat Right, so stop hovering.
Dr.Domain:Stop hovering.
Bobbi:Stop hovering. Stop believing your boyfriend that he caught chlamydia from a toilet seat. We all know that doesn't happen, are you sure? And sit down, are you sure?
Jane:Sit down, isn't that?
Dr.Domain:the point.
Jane:What. Of the ass gasket you know that you have to use, you don't have to use them, but yeah and and if I don't have, there are times when I've taken because my mom used to do this.
Bobbi:Oh god, the toilet paper paper on the seat.
Jane:I've done that before. If I'm, if I'm in a sketchy place, you know, but I'm not gonna hover because that's disgusting. Yeah, that's disgusting to me it is.
Bobbi:I'm sorry, yeah, and I've almost peed my pants waiting for mom over there to put toilet paper down on the seat when I was little, because it falls in the toilet four or five times before you actually get it to sit there. Oh, they're trying not to pee myself.
Jane:Oh my gosh, it's fine, what else?
Bobbi:How about, like in a public place, like a gym or a club or something like that, people who don't use shower shoes when they get in the shower?
Jane:Oh, Dr Domain, do you have any comments about that?
Dr.Domain:Yeah, it's for health reasons mainly.
Jane:Yeah.
Dr.Domain:But, like in the service, you were to wear shower shoes, otherwise you get athlete's foot and whatever else is crawling around the floor.
Bobbi:Yeah.
Dr.Domain:Next day you're on a hike and your feet are about to fall off.
Jane:Yeah. So I think that's a good one, Bobby, because, yeah, you absolutely need to have showers. I mean with my four kids.
Bobbi:There's days that I want to wear shower shoes in there after they've all been in there, because it's like, could I trust this? Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Jane:So it's like could I trust this? Yeah, yeah, I get it. So when you go to wash your hands, let's say that you've been like today I played pickleball.
Bobbi:Okay.
Jane:And you know, we touch the balls, we touch our paddles, we touch all kinds of stuff.
Bobbi:You touch your butt.
Jane:I don't touch my butt. I'm sure you got a wedgie.
Bobbi:Anyways, touch my butt.
Jane:I'm sure you got a wedgie anyways, anyway, uh, afterwards we went out for a drink and something to eat. Well, I immediately go to the bathroom and I wash my hands. Yeah, do you clean underneath your fingernails when you wash?
Bobbi:your hands every time, yeah, every single time.
Jane:Do that so I think they go in and it's like, oh, I'll just run some water over my hands and I tend to take my. Sometimes you don't do that. So I think they go in and it's like, oh, I'll just run some water over my hands and I tend to take my. Sometimes you don't have a brush, so you kind of have to.
Bobbi:you know, you scrub them into your palms, scrub them into your palms or you kind of pick under them and make sure you get everything out from underneath.
Jane:But there's so many people that you go did you wash your hands? And they go, yeah, and you look at their hands and it's like if you washed your hands.
Bobbi:My favorite is the ones that will turn the water on, like they're washing their hands for that 20 seconds. But they just stand there with that and it's like why did you just wash your hands? It would have taken the same amount of time.
Jane:So how often do you wash your bedding and have your kids wash their bedding?
Bobbi:Me personally. I wash it about once a week. My son washes more often. He's in charge of his own bedding. My older daughter washes less often uh, I'm not sure why that is and my youngest I'm not even sure if she has bedding anymore like her room she's just on a it's it's summer, she's on a. This is my room kick, but when I tell her to clean, it on my room, kick.
Jane:But when I tell her to clean it, sleeping on a bale of hay or what Well?
Bobbi:when I tell her to clean her room, she's like, well, this is your house, you clean it. And I'm like, but it's your room, right, and it's this whole anyways.
Jane:Yeah, she's basically sleeping.
Bobbi:The chickens eat the bugs, it's fine, oh my gosh, it's fine. But yeah, about once a week is when I wash mine.
Jane:But then again.
Bobbi:I live alone. I'm the only one that sleeps in my bed.
Jane:You live alone, you live with three kids.
Bobbi:Okay, but the kids don't sleep in my bed. I'm the only one that. Not the dog, not anything like that.
Jane:Just me. Oh, that's a good point.
Bobbi:I would let the dog sleep in my bed, absolutely.
Jane:Oh my gosh. So let's talk about that. It builds immunity. It builds up your immune system.
Dr.Domain:You're talking about? Do you still like rub dirt into your wounds?
Bobbi:like they used to. I do, yeah, walk it off or cut it off One of the two.
Jane:So here you are talking about washing your hands and making sure that you don't have your towels in your bathroom and your toothbrush, and let's invite the dog who just peed and his little penis is still dripping. Let's let him jump up.
Dr.Domain:I don't have a boy dog.
Bobbi:Here's the dog who was just outside and peed and she walked in her own pee in the grass.
Jane:But I said she doesn't sleep in my bed, there's a lot of people who do let their dogs, yeah, in their beds, and you know what. That's a personal choice and, quite frankly, I don't give a crap what you do in your own home. Uh, my dogs do not get on any furniture whatsoever and people go oh, that's so mean. My dogs live the life of Riley.
Bobbi:Well, and your dogs are also. They're fine, they're farm dogs.
Jane:Yeah, they're farm dogs, but on the other hand, they come in at night because I can't have them killing nocturnals because they come up smelling like scum. But if you if you take a shower in the morning after you sleep in the bed with your animals, wouldn't that just?
Bobbi:negate it? No, because now you got to wash your sheets and your and your blankets and all everything. That's what, what? What if you get out of bed? Yeah, you sleep with your animals. Okay, you get out of the bed, yeah, you take a shower, you put on clean clothing and then go out the door to work. Yeah, that's not. I mean, that kind of negates the whole sleeping with your animals Because now you're clean In clean clothes.
Jane:I don't even get it.
Dr.Domain:But then you're just going to Jump right back into a dirty bed. Yeah, you're going to get into a dirty bed Unless you Okay, but you're just going to Take a shower every single day.
Jane:Watch this, oh my goodness, go ahead, dr Domain. No, I just think. Help me out here.
Dr.Domain:Yeah, I think these folks?
Bobbi:No, I get what you're saying. Yeah, it's that whole.
Dr.Domain:What's that Anthropomorphism, where you give these animals human characteristics and you go like, oh, my little baby's going to sleep in my bed with me. It's just a mental disorder. Yeah, it is.
Jane:But it really is, it is. And what's really funny, because we're going to have a lot of people who disagree with this, and that's okay. This is just my opinion. I'm not trying to give you psychological advice, because I would charge you way more than what I'm charging you now, which is nothing, but I forgot what I was going to say after that.
Bobbi:I don't know some kind of psychological babble that you paid for in college, I'm sure.
Jane:You're so mean to me. Sometimes You're so mean to me.
Bobbi:Sometimes I have a whole college degree I don't even use.
Jane:I don't want to hear it, all I'm saying is that I do not let my dogs get on the furniture. My dogs are not neglected. They live the life of Riley. They have a great life, they have great beds and their bed gets washed every week also.
Dr.Domain:Do you brush your teeth after, like some people, let their dogs French them and stuff?
Jane:Oh God, why would you do?
Bobbi:that.
Jane:That's why he wears the milk bone underwear. Yeah, we talked about that before. There's a list for people. I don't French kiss my dogs. I don't let my dogs lick my face.
Bobbi:I don't let my dogs lick my face either. I don't like her licking my hands either.
Jane:And these people go. Oh, but a dog's mouth is cleaner than a human's.
Bobbi:No, it's way dirtier. That's why dog bites get infected so easily.
Jane:I mean, you need to look it up again, because somebody sold you a bill of goods on that one good lord, yeah. So, um, what about? Um, we talked about your phone, but what about your headphones and your earphones, your?
Bobbi:earbuds? Yeah, you don't clean yours. I don't use earbuds oh, I do, yeah, you do, I use airpods, yeah yeah, um, and so you clean those on a regular basis I have to.
Bobbi:A lot of the work that I've done in the past and still do, is very dirty work, and so not only do I have to meticulously clean out my airpods, I also have to meticulously clean out my ear canals all the time from wearing them so I am going to talk about uh smells, because boys are worse than girls when it comes to raising them to through puberty. Okay, uh, boys didn't even raise a boy.
Jane:But I've been around them because I've got grandsons and even your own son and I have had this discussion, so he's really clean now. Yeah, he showers every single day, yeah, and he wears deodorant and he wears cologne and stuff, but there was a time when he didn't. And what's interesting is, you know, kids can't smell themselves. Obviously, some people can't smell themselves. I don't know how I can smell as soon, I don't know how.
Bobbi:Yeah, I can smell as soon as I start going off.
Jane:I'm very sensitive when it comes to smells, but just body odor. In general, I think boys are worse than girls.
Bobbi:I don't.
Jane:I mean, if a girl went a long time without bathing or something, yeah, I guess that would be a bad thing, something, yeah, I guess that would be a bad thing.
Bobbi:but you know, if you smell your teenager, oh my goodness, it's incumbent upon you to give them to some direction and help them out to not smell yeah, and wear clean clothes and there are people out there that do need more help, like they need the clinical deodorants and things like that and a lot of times with teenagers, it's hard to tell if it's going in that direction, because is this just a weird teenager smell or is this something that you know? They're actually wearing deodorant and it's not working. They're wearing antiperspirant it's not working. Do we need to, you know, level up and see if there's a bigger issue?
Bobbi:and I say that because one of my children did have that where, um, it was a huge issue and she, you know, was constantly very self-conscious about it, until I started her on some clinical deodorant and boom, it was like problem solved.
Jane:Yeah, so back in the day, back in the day you know what some of the things were that they used for birth control.
Bobbi:Sheepskin, what Sheepskin? Sheepskin, yeah, like the. Or was it the insides? Yeah, sheep's stomach, it was the insides, yeah, yeah.
Jane:So yeah, their digestive tracts, yeah, they would cut that out it up, we'd hope. Tie a knot, tie a knot in the end and use them as prophylactics. Yeah and um. What's also interesting is, um, it's kind of gross. Oh, oh God.
Bobbi:Here we go.
Jane:They would shove like rocks up a vagina to try to block the sperm from going in.
Bobbi:Yeah, they would try to build like dams, basically with all kinds of stuff. They would use like wool from a sheep or they would use, like you know, like cotton, things like that, to try to stop it.
Jane:So the ancient Egyptians used, you know, suppositories that were made of like acacia leaves or lint, even um, trying to block that.
Bobbi:You know, block the sperm, and um, or you know, like an acacia gum like because they get that from the, from the plant itself, um, sometimes moss, because moss is kind of a, an absorbent could you imagine getting a pack of hubba bubba and chewing it up and being like here put this up there so we don't have any?
Jane:you know, satan spawns running around what are you using for birth control, hubba?
Bobbi:bubba original flavor.
Jane:Thank you they also used, you know, some herbal remedies which obviously didn't work, um, but uh, yeah, it was. It's kind of weird what they would shove up there just to try to stop people from getting pregnant. How gross is that? It's just gross. So, uh, some other things that were used for birth control, you know back, oh, so, you know, people always thought that native indians were were really filthy, and a lot of them were uh, but there were tribes that uh would bathe multiple times a day because it was a spiritual ritual for them, and so to think that they were all like that back in the day and they were just savages, that's not true. But egyptians used animal dung, like crocodile or elephant dung as a barrier, believing that it was kind of a spermicidal type.
Bobbi:It had sperm well, you pack it tight enough.
Jane:Yeah, I suppose it's a barrier um africans used plugs of like grass or cloth, um, you know, for periods, for menstrual periods, back in the day they would use things like leaves, they would use things like moss, they would use things like just cloth and paper. And you know you got to use what you got to use right.
Bobbi:You kind of went hard on the butt stuff and the contraceptives today.
Jane:I think that's what stinks the most on the butt stuff and the contraceptives today.
Bobbi:I think that's what stinks the most. And then you yell at me about my freaking joke.
Jane:But that's kind of where I'm at is is with that, but you have anything else? Bobby?
Bobbi:I don't think so, but I would, honestly, I would love you know if you have a, even a spouse, a partner, a kid, anything, that you look at them and go. What the hell are you doing when they're standing in the bathroom doing something? Hey, let us know, let us know.
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Bobbi:Turn it into a contraceptive.
Jane:That's right, Bobby. So until next week. I'm Jane Bird and I'm Bobby Joy and you're stuck with us.
Bobbi:Peace out later.