A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
Wit and wisdom, some smart assery, and a Mother and Daughter questioning “Are we even related?”
A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar
If food is medicine or poison, which one are we choosing? S:2E:2
Ever look at a “healthy” label and feel like it’s winking at you? We pull apart the grocery aisle with a candid, funny, and no-sponsors filter, asking why so many American staples get banned or reformulated abroad—and what that says about our food system. From cereals engineered for bliss points to milk treated with synthetic hormones, we unpack how ultra-processed foods took over, why marketing crowned breakfast with a sugar halo, and how phrases like “natural,” “enriched,” “multi-grain,” and “lightly sweetened” hide more than they reveal.
The goal isn’t purity; it’s awareness. If food is either moving you toward health or away from it, small choices matter. Buy local when you can, cook a couple of basics, pick shorter labels, and notice how you feel. We’ll make you laugh, probably roast a few cereals, and leave you with simple ways to cut through noise and eat cleaner without going broke or joyless.
If you learned something or laughed along, follow the show, leave a quick review, and share this episode with a friend who reads labels in the aisle. What’s the most misleading “healthy” claim you’ve seen lately? Tell us on our Facebook page or email Bloomerinjnexture at gmail.com.
email: boomerandgenxer@gmail.com
Welcome everyone to today's show, a boomer and a Gen Xer. Welcome to a bar coming to you from the Rabbit Hole Studio, where you, as our faithful listeners, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smart assery, and a mother and daughter questioning, are we even related? My name is Bobby Joy, and my co-host is my mom Jane. And we're here to entertain you uh for season two. Yay!
SPEAKER_03:Season two.
SPEAKER_02:We're so excited. I say faithful, faithful listeners, but you know, I also mean the ones that just now found us. So welcome. We're happy about to the chaos.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, pass us on.
SPEAKER_02:We uh just so everybody knows we're not sponsored, so we can say whatever the hell we want. That's right, mate. Let her go, let her go. We're also not doctors, lawyers, um we're not professionals, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Most times I can't even speak. Most times we can't find our passwords that's all right. So listen at your own discretion. Listen at your own risk. That's all I'm saying. So, how's things going, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02:They're going pretty good. And I know you're gonna be like, what are you drinking down there? What are you drinking down there?
SPEAKER_03:Because she's always got something.
SPEAKER_02:Well, right now I have like three drinks in front of me, but listen, none of them are alcohol today. That's problematic. None of them are alcohol today. Although, honestly, after looking at some of these, I would almost prefer the alcohol. Maybe it would be healthier for me to just do cocaine at this point rather than an energy drink.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you know, those monster drinks, I'm just gonna tell you. Look, they have B vitamins.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, which I'm assuming are um bitch vitamins. It's something called taurine. I don't know what that does, but listen, they put it on the top of the can. It's gotta be good.
SPEAKER_03:It's gotta be good. It's gotta be good.
SPEAKER_02:Is it number one? Is it number one on the list? It's literally right front and center. Taurine. No idea. I don't know what that means. But uh the list of ingredients sure tells me that uh I'm not seeing taurine. I'm not seeing taurine.
SPEAKER_03:You won't be on the show next week. Oh, R.I.P.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, so what is our topic today, Bob? So our topic today is uh one of mom's favorite topics to talk about. We're gonna talk about some um what is it, processed food, banned foods. Yes. Literally the shit we eat in America versus the good stuff that everybody else has. That's right.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna talk about why you're fat, why you're not healthy, and why you're dying of food why you're fat.
SPEAKER_02:Because I'm upstairs earlier. And I'm like, look, I know I'm fat. Like, I know that I've got at least a good 30 pounds that I could just drop and I would be completely healthy. But here's the thing I know I'm fat. I know I'm fat. Okay, I can call McDonald's on the way here because you ate at McDonald's. It was twofold. I was hungry and I also need to poop.
SPEAKER_03:It's gonna take care of both. You can tell, listeners, that we really don't care what we say, and we'll just say what we want to say. But I'm just shocked that you you eat at McDonald's.
SPEAKER_01:At the same time, what like you're eating a big man sitting on the throne.
SPEAKER_02:Sometimes. Oh, tell me it's not true. No, we did the whole episode on cleanliness and bathroom.
SPEAKER_01:No, you can't eat while you're on the toilet.
SPEAKER_02:No, you can't eat while you're on a toilet. Like I said, a shower beer is fine, but if you're putting a Subway sandwich next to your toilet, I want nothing to do with you for the next 500 years.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's uh that's a bad thing. So we uh talked this past year to my grandson uh about celiac disease, and I have celiac, and uh we also talked about a little bit about processed food. And I've been reading a book that a girlfriend of mine gave to me to read.
SPEAKER_02:She's been reading a book, folks. I have she has a new master's degree, and it came from one little book.
SPEAKER_03:I think I'm an expert now. It's as useless as your other ones. Bobby, see, why do you have to be so hurtful in cutting?
SPEAKER_02:Ma'am, you have how many masters, and you're asking if places or countries or continents. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03:Stop it. I I came to the conclusion I was wrong without you. Anyway, so you read a book. I read a book, and it's called Ultra Processed People. And a girlfriend of mine gave it to me to read, and she said to me, and this is by Chris Van Tulliken, and she said to me, my girlfriend did, she said, once you read that book, you're never gonna think of food the same way again. You're never gonna look at a grocery store the same way again. Now, listen, I'm not ignorant about food, right? Right. Uh we have the grandson who is like uh an expert when it comes to processed food, natural foods, foods that you should eat, foods that cause diseases, foods that heal you. And he has always said what you put in your mouth, what you eat is either uh uh oh my god, fuel. It's either fuel. No, that's not what he says. I can't remember what he said now. But anyway, he's he would say it's either medicine to your body or it's a toxin. One or the other. There's no in between. So either you're putting the food in your body to be a medicine so that you can stay alive, or you're putting it in your body and it's gonna be a toxin in your body. And that's basically what he has said. And so this book kind of uh, if you haven't read this book, I gotta tell you, there's a lot of studies that it refers to. You know me. I gotta go look at the studies. I'm not gonna listen to local radio and TV to find out this information. I'm gonna go look at the studies. And they've been out there since the 1960s and 1970s that talk about manufacturing of food. Right. And what the manufacturers, of course, the industry is doing to us and what the government is doing to us uh with the uh products that they put into our food. And the fact of the matter is, is we think we've got all these regulations that protect us. They're not protecting us, guess who they're protecting? They're protecting protecting the um companies, the industry. Yeah, yeah. Because those guys want to make money, and of course, the government wants these companies to make money. And so, even though there are regulations out there, and we've talked about the book of uh that the government has on how many rat hairs you can have in tuna. Oh, yeah, how many bug eggs.
SPEAKER_02:I can't remember either, but how many bug eggs you can have in jelly, yeah. How many human parts you can have in a can of beans, right? Right. Before it's it has all of that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and it's true that that book does exist. I pulled the book up, and we can certainly uh provide you the link uh on the case.
SPEAKER_02:That's a good late night read in October, is it is it is kind of fun.
SPEAKER_03:It is actually kind of fun because you sit there in disbelief and read this stuff that the government allows to go through for these industries.
SPEAKER_01:Can I tell you why they came up with those standards?
SPEAKER_03:You know, it doesn't. I mean, somebody found a big toe and a can of pork and beans or no, because it's like you know, it's like a horse made by committee that looks like you know a tin can. So, you know, why even think of that? What do you mean?
SPEAKER_01:Why would you even come up with some some arbitrary thing that you'd find in food? Because why would you find a human body part of it? Because people fall in machines. Well, that's what I'm saying. So some somewhere it came up, right?
SPEAKER_03:So it came like multiple times, multiple times you can only have so many toenails in your lasagna or something.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, you know, you're it's kind of like the warning labels. You know, somebody had to have done that at least once somewhere, and now there's a warning label saying do not do this when you would never think to do it in your wall distractor.
SPEAKER_01:But isn't that a good thing though that we have standards like that? No. Well, for food. Yeah, wait, wait. Yeah, for food.
SPEAKER_02:Like I warning labels, we need to pull them all off.
SPEAKER_01:You can only have too many rabbit turds, so many rabbit turds in your peanut butter or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. No, I get it. No, I understand why we would have those. The problem is they're driven by outside industry. They're not really driven by anybody who wants to care for us and take care of us. It's kind of like saying that a doctor really wants to save you. No, they don't. They want to pass on the medicine that they're getting a kickback on from the pharmaceuticals.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think that's true.
SPEAKER_03:It is true. Oh, come on. I I truly believe it. Really?
SPEAKER_01:You don't think you don't think there's an honorable doctor out there that wants to save your life. It's gone through all that. All that time.
SPEAKER_03:I think that they start out that way. I think they do. I think there is an honorable doctor out there, but I'm not sure. Some of them stay that way. I also think that a pill or medicine is a quick ticket, it's a quick fix.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I don't doubt that.
SPEAKER_03:And so I guess that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, but I still think there's people out there that want that that want other people to live.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'm not saying that there aren't, but a lot of times they are not fully told by you know certain things that, like, listen, this is a new kind of chemo. It's gonna make your pay, you know, you only have to do it three times instead of six times. But they're not telling that doctor that there's a higher percentage of death rate, there's a higher percentage of, you know, bones breaking and things like that, you know, that would be side effects for. I think the doctors go in blind. I think there are greedy doctors, but I think a lot of them go in with the idea of I want to help people, because usually doctor cop things like that, they come from trauma. So they had somebody die on them that they couldn't help, type of thing. I want to go in helping people, but they're either blinded by the companies who don't have to disclose certain things, or they're driven by money. Money.
SPEAKER_03:But you have to also realize that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, what about the factor of the patient?
SPEAKER_03:What about the factor of the patient?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think that comes into play. There's the money aspect to it. We all know what the bottom line is. It's the bottom line. But then what about the patient? The patient that's adamant. Oh, I'm sorry, I just don't have the willpower to stop shoving Twinkies in my head. Give me some kind of drug.
SPEAKER_03:That's another point. That's another point.
SPEAKER_01:And so we have to look at the doctor saying, stop putting food in your hole. They're gonna do these pills and then they try and lose weight that way. Right. Is it healthy? Probably not.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, okay, and I get your point there, Dr. Domain, but I'm just gonna say this. I think that there are a lot of doctors out there that do go in, like Bobby said, wanting to be helpful, wanting to do their duty to society. But technology changes so quickly, right? Discoveries of diseases change so quickly. How would you ever expect the a doctor to keep up on every single thing out there? So a lot of times medication is a quick fix. Which medication are you gonna promote? I'm gonna promote the one that gives me the biggest kickback. That's what I'm gonna do, and that's how I feel. That's me personally. Now, I don't think that anybody can keep up with everything that's that's you know being discovered today. I just really don't. And so a lot of times you talk to your doctor about stuff. I've talked to my doctor about uh drugs, and she'll go, Oh, I'm not familiar with that one. What you know, and and so they have to research it too. Think about what they'd have to go through to keep up with all of that. But let's talk about what you just mentioned.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna say, I zoned the hell out for a minute.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, oh, shut up, you go you shut you weren't zoning out when I was Oh my gosh. Stay focused on me if I just stay focused on you.
SPEAKER_03:You are so mean to me.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna talk about food and click and noise here in the background.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna talk about food because you know, people wonder why cancer rates are so high. They wonder why disease rates are so high, they wonder why we are so fat, they wonder why we're so lethargic, um, why we have more people with dementia today or Alzheimer's today than ever in history. And a lot of times, and and I'm gonna go back to these studies that I read uh that were referenced in this book back in the 60s and 70s, is you know, there were a lot of people that were pushing, oh, you need to take fat out of the food. Well, once you take fat out of the food, guess what? You gotta put something else in there, right? Right. And a lot of times, uh, you know, or you have to take uh sugar out of the food. Right. Well, if you take the sugar out, you gotta put something artificial in. Yeah. And the other thing it's artificial, it's chemical. It's chemical, and we're gonna talk a little bit about that because you know, it's in food additives, it's in processed foods, and it's in other foods. But um, you know, all of that stuff, I I gotta be honest with you. We've I have been. Dr. Domain probably is just going along with me to keep me quiet. But but I've been trying to get us off of as much processed food as we can now. You can't get off of processed food, let's face it. Not in America, not in America, no. Um, but you know, there's synthetics that are being added to foods. Um, there's some discoveries that we made when we started looking at this, aren't there, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, a lot of them was um what foods were banned in other countries. And like Fruit Loops. Okay, first of all, Fruit Loops. Fruit loops, like, and then you said you had said something. I said something about little Debbie being banned. And you were so sad. And I was sad, and you were like, So Twinkies? And I was like, Well, I don't know, because that's hostess, that's not little Debbie. And I scrolled down a little bit more. By God, there was freaking Twinkies right there.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my gosh, so they banned those in other countries.
SPEAKER_02:Yep, things like things like Mountain Dew. Um most of them are European countries, most of them are the European Union, but there are other countries like Japan, Australia, um, New Zealand, Canada, all of those like milk. You know, we had talked about the fact the fact that you um drink raw milk on the farm, yeah. And US milk is banned in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan, and the European Union.
SPEAKER_03:Guess where we first got hooked on raw milk? Uh New Zealand when we were there. Oh, yeah, they had dispensaries right there at the farm alongside the road. It was cool, it's the coolest thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so it's basically because we give our cows a synthetic synthetic man-made hormone. Right. And it's called uh RBGH. So it increases milk production. Yep. That's not allowed over there.
SPEAKER_03:So when we were researching whether we wanted to buy raw milk, that was one of the things that we had found out.
SPEAKER_01:So just and just yesterday we were out with your buddy at uh it doesn't matter. We were out with her friend and we were talking about her recent trip to Dublin.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The beer, Dublin, Ireland. Talking about the beer. Oh, did you go to Guinness? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. It went to Guinness and she mentioned the beer tastes a lot better. Yeah, she's sorry. They don't put all the preservatives and stuff by the time it gets here. Guinness does taste different. Just little things like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, absolutely. And the reason I wanted to talk about this today, after reading that book, I gotta be honest with you, the friend that gave me the book to read, she's absolutely right. I do look at everything differently now. And I do want to make things myself, or I do want to, you know, I've been going to my friends' houses to get apples and pears and things like that. A lot of this is self-inflicted. It's kind of like, you know, somebody smokes and then they get cancer and they go, Well, you know, nobody's willing to help me, you know, and why isn't this medicine working? Well, why are you putting a cancer stick to your face? What's going on? I mean, stop it. But a lot of it is self-inflicted because a lot of the cancers, a lot of the diseases, and uh a lot of the things that change our body behavior or excuse me, our mental behaviors have to do with how our food is processed. And a lot of people think the reason we're fat is because we've got we eat fat food. Fats are good for our body, right? Fats are good for our body.
SPEAKER_02:Correct. Fats are free. Absolutely. And well, you had said something about, you know, in America, we don't have like unprocessed food. So you go to the grocery store, this is an example. Um, our apples here in America, they're banned in the European Union, right? And why is that? Because they are actually treated with DPA, which keeps them from turning brown and how they look nice and shiny in the store and stuff like that. Freaking apples. Apples are banned in other countries that come from our country because we can't get our shit together.
SPEAKER_03:And here's the other thing I see people who uh have said, Oh, I buy only organic.
SPEAKER_02:Uh or I buy I buy only free-range chicken eggs that have been fed organic food. It's like you realize those free-range chicken eggs that have only been fed organic food means that they run in the backyard and eat bugs all day.
SPEAKER_03:That's all it means. And they can process them. And I'm not worried about that, but uh, I will say this you know, we used to be beef producers and we did uh we did uh all you know corn fed beef. Yeah. Angus and Angus, yeah. And we did not give any hormones or anything like that to any of our cattle, and we had so many people, as a matter of fact, we would ship to I think it was New York because this guy contacted us and said, Hey, listen, since my daughter's been eating this meat, she hasn't had the problems with whatever it was she had. I don't even remember now. And there's so many meds that cattle are given, you know, and the problem is is when you see a label that says this was organically grown, doesn't necessarily mean it was organically grown. Sorry, folks. Right. Because the seed might have been organic, but the but the pesticides that were put on it aren't. Correct. And the herbicides that were put on it aren't. And so, you know, yeah, it may have been organic when it started, uh, but it's not by the time it gets to you, and you all think it is, it's not.
SPEAKER_02:And you go other places and you see, you know, if you're able to see the ingredients on these foods, even something simple as bread and tortillas. You go to another country, bread and tortillas, they're made with simple products, they're made with pure products. You go to the grocery store and it's like, oh, well, it's got corn glucose and you know, this coloring and that it's like why?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, why? You know, I've heard people say in Italy, even though I have celiac, I can eat the bread over there. Right. Yeah, because it's not processed like it is not making it. But why is that happening? Why is it that we don't have the same standards as another country? I don't have any idea. I have no idea. But um, one of the things that I looked up, and this was interesting to me, I hope it is to our listeners, is how many petroleum products are in our foods.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So petroleum is a hydro uh carbon mixture and it's found in crude oil, in case anybody doesn't know that. And its products are used in various industries, including the production of food. Yes. Some of the foods that contain a petroleum derivative uh are food additives, like guess what? Artificial food dyes, what colors? Uh red 40.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:How'd you know that?
SPEAKER_02:I well, red 40 because on daddy daycare, the little girl is like, I'm allergic to red 40, yellow dye number three.
SPEAKER_03:It's actually yellow dye number five.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That was from Die Hard, I think.
SPEAKER_02:No, it was from Daddy Daycare.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, but there was another one where where the cop was there and he's eating Twinkie, and he's like, everything a boy growing boy needs, yellow dye number five. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So another one that is made from petroleum products. And again, we are not legal people. We just research stuff, we look at it, we can read, we can add, we can carry the one, we can do all of that. Um, flavorings, vanilla. Yeah, vanilla is one of the most what do I want to say? Used? No, not most used, but it's the most uh bootlegged product. And another one, which um Dr. Domain turned me on to, was maple syrup. Yeah, it's real maple syrup. Real maple syrup. So the stores will tell you it's real maple syrup. Yeah, bullshit, but it is no, and so there may be a teeny tiny little bit of maple syrup that's real in there, but it's not all 100% pure. Right. It's not Canadian, eh? You know, obvious, yeah. Uh obviously preservatives, some processed foods like fast foods, and oh man, I'm gonna jump on you on this because you had told me that you went to McDonald's before you came here. There's no chicken in those McNuggets.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't eat chicken McNuggets. I ate the beefless hamburgers. You did not. Yeah, I mean, they don't have a lot of beef in them. It's mostly cornmeal. I was gonna say, what's in those beefless cornmeal, sugar in the buns? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Don't they do like the fake meat? Like some of those fast foods.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, like the veggie burger. Veggie burger or something like that. Why would I ever pay for that? I don't know. I could just go eat grass in my lawn.
SPEAKER_03:But even French fries uh are quite processed and they have petro uh in them. Baked goods like cookies and cakes, candy and chips. I know Bobby's down there just crying her eyes out. But you know, and ice cream, ice cream. I don't like ice cream.
SPEAKER_01:Have you ever seen the roll with ice cream? What's wrong with it?
SPEAKER_03:What if it's homemade ice cream? Different.
SPEAKER_01:She's trying to start a fight.
SPEAKER_03:I am gonna start a fight because you know, the ice cream sandwiches, have you seen the experiments where they put them out in the sun and they don't melt for days?
SPEAKER_01:No, we're talking about real ice cream, nothing. Really? Because I get an ice cream sandwich and it's melted halfway to my car. It's like ice cream and sugar. It's all like actual ice cream.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you guys.
SPEAKER_02:Like dad used to make in the in the kitchen.
SPEAKER_03:Here's another thing that I learned about because my friend Saud, who is from um uh not Jordan.
SPEAKER_02:I like how you keep bringing up the one friend that you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_03:He's from Palestine. I have friends.
SPEAKER_02:You have a friend? No, I have friends. That's so nice for you. I love that freedom.
SPEAKER_03:With you, you can drop the S, but not with me. I have an S on the end. I have friends. Anyway, his family owns an olive ranch or olive uh farm. And he could it be a ranch or a farm? I think it would be a farm.
SPEAKER_02:I think it would be a farm.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, he goes over every year to help with harvest. Oh, over in Palestine. Yeah, I just said Palestine.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my goodness. I was stuck on the olive farm.
SPEAKER_02:No, I was stuck on the olive. Why would it be an olive ranch? What are you hurting them out in the fields? I just threw that out there. Why do you why do you think that's it? Because I went that way.
SPEAKER_03:Get off my junk. Anyway, uh, olive oil, some of those brands have petroleum base. And I learned a lot from him because he when he goes over there to help, he sends a barrel of olive oil from his family's farm back to the United States, and it tastes totally different. He'll give me some and totally different.
SPEAKER_02:And so he could like he could sneak that stuff in the country, sell it as pure. I mean, the dude would make millions. Well, anyway, he's I'm not condoning any type of thing.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe you can talk to him about that black market deal.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, he's gonna be on the corner. She's over there dollars and dollars. I know you want some of this oil, man.
SPEAKER_03:Um, wax-coated fruits and vegetables. The wax can be petroleum-based, and then this is gonna blow poor Dr. Domaine out of the water. Oh no. Certain types of chocolate. No, milk chocolate. They have the coating, the wax coating.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, that's probably I I noticed that. I eat certain chocolate, like it gives you like this waxy taste in your mouth or something like that.
SPEAKER_02:Right, I've noticed that on certain brands. In certain foods, yeah. Yeah, so then again, I chew on wax bottles.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, little wax bottles.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I chewed.
SPEAKER_01:Don't you eat the whole thing?
SPEAKER_02:Like, yeah, you chew it up as gum.
SPEAKER_01:You just eat the whole thing, don't you?
SPEAKER_03:You don't swallow that.
SPEAKER_02:No, you drink the you drink the stuff and then you chew on the wax bottle like it's a piece of gum. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We used to get them as kids. Yeah, but you don't swallow that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he's swallowing that. The instructions were unclear.
SPEAKER_01:That might be instructions back then.
SPEAKER_03:That might be the circumference.
SPEAKER_01:There were just a bunch of a barrel. You walk by at the end of the day.
SPEAKER_03:There weren't even tags on it. You literally just stuck your greasy little hand in it. Yeah. There were so many foods that we used to get. There's no tags. There were used to never have been any best buy or due dates on anything.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and I mean, like my generation, especially, grew up on the red dye number 40 and stuff like that. Look what happened. They call bitch about everything.
SPEAKER_01:Like the nutritional labels, those weren't there. And there's a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03:There's a lot of things that have changed.
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, you go to the candy store, they have the penny candy. I mean, it's in the open. What are you gonna put a label on each? No, you just reach in and get some.
SPEAKER_03:So there's uh there's a word of advice out there that says, listen, if you can't pronounce the word on your ingredients list, don't put it in your body.
SPEAKER_01:Well, what if you're really good at pronouncing stuff?
SPEAKER_02:But what if you're really bad at pronouncing stuff?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, then you're gonna starve.
SPEAKER_02:Like, what if what okay? Like, what if you're like, oh my god, like a king hydrogen dioxide in it. I'm going to digest dioxide. Like, what if you have one of those one of those people that doesn't actually know what things are? They should probably look at they should probably Google it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they probably don't want to eat it.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. But there are some also not just the ingredients on your products, because let me say this. I did discover this also. She discovered it. When somebody says, hey, this has vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin whatever, taurine. It can have taurine. Whatever that is. We don't know what that is. Um it only has to have a minute amount in order for them to put it on the label. So again, remember that just because let's say apples have a certain vitamin in them, if you buy applesauce or apple juice, a lot of those are are extracted out of that product and then they put it back in in a fake way. Right. When they put it back in in a fake way, unfortunately, you use you lose your vitamin uh ability on you know to absorb the vitamins from that because it's not there any longer.
SPEAKER_01:Are you reading everything on the can?
SPEAKER_03:So let's see.
SPEAKER_02:She's down there with a monster drink.
SPEAKER_01:This is a popular energy drink. Oh, God.
SPEAKER_02:Well, this one actually, this is the Amsterdam version, so this is uh import. So uh it gives me 580% of my daily value for B12 vitamin.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02:That's insane. You gotta that's what is that? There's no way. There's no way. What is that exactly?
SPEAKER_01:Doesn't vitamin B12 like give you a little energy boost?
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, it does give you people who are anemic and stuff like that, they have to get B12 shots.
SPEAKER_03:But here's the other thing. I just want to go back to what I just said. Just because they put it back into the product doesn't mean your body's gonna absorb it. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's gotta be like completely manufactured. Yeah, just because it's good, you know, just sweet potatoes are good for you, right?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:They are very good. A sweet potato's never eaten a sweet potato in her life.
SPEAKER_02:I had one sweet potato French fry one time and it was one of the time. I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER_00:It was like dip toes out of that.
SPEAKER_02:What the hell is that?
SPEAKER_03:But anyway, sweet potatoes are really good for you. But once it's been processed and they extract the good stuff out of that sweet potato to put it on the market so that it is has a shelf life, so that it's got some type of um, you know, it meets the standards for the United States. Just because they put those vitamins back in doesn't mean your body can absorb those vitamins. And so I just want to talk about some words that y'all need to pay attention to. Y'all. Y'all. Y'all. Anytime you see the word enriched, it's bullshit. It means you're eating basically plastic. Yeah. Because enriched means we just strip that food of everything it had and we put some fabricated thing back into the food. Anytime you see enriched, where do you see that most?
SPEAKER_02:Uh like when you have like the enriched flour, yes, enriched flour, yeah, pastas, yeah, um, cereals, yeah, um, breads, breads, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Anytime you see enriched, you're just shoving crap in your body. That's all you're doing is just shoving crap in your body. So also the word natural, the FDA has no res no strict definition of what natural is, other than it should not contain anything that's artificial or synthetic. This means that you know, food high in sugar, fat, or salt can still be natural labeled natural.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because it's natural sugar, it's natural fat.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, yeah, yep. Made with real fruit.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, just because it's made with real fruit, they probably just like ran water over the real fruit and then used it in the production.
SPEAKER_03:You're on the right track.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I would do.
SPEAKER_03:The product can clean. This even if it contains only a very small amount of actual fruit. So when it says made with real fruit, they could have taken their fingertip and put that in there.
SPEAKER_02:And that's I mean, yeah, they basically will like run it over a real fruit with you know 50,000 other gallons of whatever. And this is especially true with um juice for little kids. It is, yeah. And they want to tell real fruit juice, and then you look on the side and it says contains one percent fruit juice.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And so the bulk of the flavor comes from that added sugars or added artificial ingredients. Um, another one is multi-grain or made with whole grains. Those terms. So, have you ever seen wheat bread?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, I've seen wheat bread in my life.
SPEAKER_03:I know, but people go, Oh, make sure that you get wheat bread. Isn't all bread made with wheat?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well, and just because it says wheat bread doesn't mean that it's healthier than the white bread because a lot of it is super ultra processed. Right.
SPEAKER_03:And it doesn't say whole wheat. Right. It says wheat. Well, all bread is made of wheat. Okay, whether it's brown, white, I don't care what color it is, is made of wheat. So those terms don't guarantee a product is rich in any type of fiber or nutrient.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Um, a multi-grain product can simply contain a mix of, I don't know, refined grains made with some type of whole grain.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like two or more grains. Right. It's a mixed grain.
SPEAKER_03:It's like but it doesn't mean that they're, you know, doesn't mean it's any better for you than Popeye's chicken biscuits. It doesn't mean that it's a hundred percent whole green. What do you think lightly sweetened means?
SPEAKER_02:Define lightly.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no kidding.
SPEAKER_02:Because for you it'd be different than me. Oh, yeah. For me, it would be like a lot more sweetened than for you.
SPEAKER_03:So what's interesting about that phrase is it is totally unregulated and it's very misleading.
SPEAKER_02:And there's a lot of stuff that these people are putting on this food that you know you would assume that the FDA would have some sort of something at bare minimum, so that they, you know, you can't put whole wheat on this unless you actually use only whole wheat and not type of thing. And it's like, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_03:Again, we get back to the industry, right? Yeah, we get back to who's making money off of our health.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And I am a firm believer that, you know, what you put in your body, a lot of that is self-inflicted. And so if you're gonna eat this crap and then you get cancer, or you're gonna eat this crap and now you're a diabetic, or you have Alzheimer's or whatever, and people go, Nobody's helping me, this medicine's not helping me, poor, poor me. You freaking did it to yourself. And I'm just gonna be mean about saying because we're still researching. Some cancers are hereditary. I said Alzheimer's, I know you did. I said cancer. Yeah, but some cancers are hereditary, right? Because I've got the brecogenine that you do that runs in my family. Yeah, and so you know, the possibility or the probability of me having cancer is very, very high, or getting cancer is very, very high. But there are other cancers, there are other diseases that you can avoid yourself.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, mostly.
SPEAKER_03:Now, mostly, yeah, it is true.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't, I just said most I thought I was gonna have to get a saddle on because you were gonna jump on my back about going back to the anyways. Going back to the what? Wait a minute. I want to know what we're going back to. Oh, and one of the the listeners have to go back on one of the other shows about how we had an argument about this earlier, too.
SPEAKER_03:So what was it? I don't even remember I came in with you. Oh, but you know we argued about it. Yeah, I do you don't remember, but okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that was good information.
SPEAKER_03:Thanks for sharing.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, another one I was just trying to get you away from the whole doctor thing again so I didn't zone out.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, the other one is gluten-free, gluten-free. Well, a lot of people have celiac disease, just because something says gluten-free doesn't mean you're safe. Why is that?
SPEAKER_02:Uh, because trace amounts of gluten, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so it may not be a celiac safe environment. Yeah, because we talked about celiac safe restaurants, so just because it says gluten-free doesn't mean it's celiac, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because it could be made on like the same pizza cutting board without wiping the flour off, and now they're touching it with flour on their hands, things like that, or pizza dough on their hands that's not gluten-free, and all of a sudden now you have that major exposure.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, and and I don't think people understand that.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_03:Um, what do you think superfood really means?
SPEAKER_02:Um, flying chickens. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:There's no regulatory or scientific definition.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's just that just pisses me off because it's like, don't we have an entire alphabet mafia like place that does this? Like the FDA, the USDA, you know, they tell they always tout about, and I know it goes back to the corporations and stuff, but it just pisses me off that we have this entire area in our country that's supposed to be dealing with this shit, and all they're doing is saying, hey, you can say what you want, but we're not gonna guarantee anything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like, where are you even here?
SPEAKER_03:With superfoods, um, it used to give a, you know, kind of like a health halo uh to certain products, but it really doesn't guarantee anything.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like the it was what was it? Asae, however you say that. Usia or us, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I thought it was Asa. A-C uh A-C-A-I. I used to say Ataya, but okay.
SPEAKER_02:Anyways, y'all know what we're talking about. Okay, but yeah, it's like they touted that as this big superfood forever and didn't take into account how processed the items were that this was in. I mean, you can go, oh, I'm gonna go get it, you know, this yogurt that has this superfood in it. Okay, well, the yogurt's made out of crap. Yeah, like literal crap. Yeah, and it's saying it's a superfood because it has this certain thing in it.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm not saying that I am uh processed food free by any stretch of the imagination.
SPEAKER_02:All I'm saying is it would be a real challenge to be processed food free completely in the United States.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just saying anywhere that you can find farmers markets, anytime you can make it yourself. I mean, I'm sitting down here right now with a Lipton diet green tea mixed berry drink, and the list of ingredients on it are seriously probably an inch and a half long.
SPEAKER_02:I'm literally thinking just alcohol like liquor is more healthy. That's what I'm saying. It's healthier, it's more pure for my body than half the shit that I drink. Yeah, I don't know, Bobby.
SPEAKER_03:I you want to do a test on that? Did you want to test that out?
SPEAKER_02:No, because I really do like my monsters and they kind of level me out.
SPEAKER_03:So, what other foods do we have to watch out for?
SPEAKER_02:What things um so a big one is breakfast cereal foods. Oh, good one. Breakfast cereal in general. They have rows and rows. I mean, like an entire freaking aisle of nothing but breakfast cereal. And that includes like oatmeal, um, you know, things like that. But you're looking at, you know, Japan and the European Union have banned most of American breakfast cereals. Yes. And for good reason. I mean, you look at them, 90% of them literally are dyed so bad you can't tell where they came from in the first place. They're saying, oh, well, this is a wheat cereal, this is a rice cereal. Yeah, it's got like one minute milligram of wheat in it, and then it's covered in sugar, and it's worse than crack for your kids or even yourself, because I have an addiction to cereal.
SPEAKER_03:And it's I was just gonna say, it's very addictive. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, there's a lot of people who will have a bowl of cereal for supper and get up and have another bowl because they might feel full, but they didn't get that dopamine kick that they needed.
SPEAKER_03:They didn't get that that digestive, whatever shot of energy that they needed. But you know, back in the day, and I was just gonna oh, I was gonna pull up the date when this happened, but the marketing um, you know, marketing really kind of threw a wrench in the the breakfast thing. Yeah, you know, when they came out and said breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, okay, whatever. That's like saying diamonds are forever. It's a ploy, it's a marketing ploy.
SPEAKER_03:And the other thing that they did at the same time that they came out with that was they said eggs are bad for you, bacon is bad for you. Yeah, saying that about eggs, no, that's bullshit. And so what happened was it put full dependency of a lot of the generations from the 60s on onto cereal. They thought they were doing a good thing for their kids.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and it was convenient. And you know, you start going into the 70s and 80s, you got, you know, latch key kids, things like that, where the parents aren't there might not be home in the morning. So here's here's a box of cereal, here's a milk, you know, some milk, put your bowl in the sink after you're done. Yep, absolutely, easy. And the parents did. They thought that they were giving their children a full breakfast worth of vitamins and minerals just in this one bowl of cereal.
SPEAKER_03:So, my generation, one of the things that kind of got us rolling on that whole thing was TV dinners. Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, it's like hungry men, yeah, hungry men for TV dinners. Yeah, and uh also the little boxes of cereal that you could eat right out of the box. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then he pour the milk in and you could eat it right out of the box. And that those those marketing tools were very effective. Oh, yeah, another one is Jiffy Pop popcorn.
SPEAKER_02:I remember that. That was on the stove. You have to pop it on the stove.
SPEAKER_03:And it would pop up into a big bowl. But you know, I mean, marketers, let's face it, what kind of commercials are on TV right now? It isn't hey, scare tactics, yeah. Exactly, exactly. But people aren't scared of it anymore. Medicine or food?
SPEAKER_02:Medicine or food, medicine or food. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:That's kind of it. So I guess where I'm going with this, and I don't know where Bobby's going with this, but I was probably the one that you brought it up. I did bring it up, and I wanted to talk about clean eating. And, you know, I I recognize that a lot of people say, you know, well, those foods are very expensive. Well, we're very overweight as a society.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and if you look at it even now, the price of a pound of 80% hamburger at one of the local supermarkets is absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, it's re I walked in, I was like, there is no way I'm paying that much for one pound of 80% hamburger. Yeah, it's in Iowa. It's crazy. It's insane. That's like, I don't know, Hawaii prices. Yeah. But Hawaii prices?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I wouldn't know what Hawaii prices are. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, look at her. Look at her. Dr. Domain, she doesn't know.
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't know what Hawaii prices are. Where have you been? Dun dun bang. We know where the next vacation is. Anyways.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, anyway, uh, you know, I I guess I would say if I had any words of wisdom, this is for me and for anybody who wants to hear it. Uh, and if you don't, you're gonna hear it anyway. Shut it up. Oh, Scott! Seeing if they don't want to hear it, they can is you know, it I recognize going to a farmer's market might be a little bit more expensive, but you're buying local, you're supporting local, and uh chances are your ingredients are a little bit the list is a lot smaller. If you can look for things that you can make yourself as opposed to, you know, buying processed food, uh, do it and see what happens. And one of the other things that I wanted to mention is back on those studies back in the 60s, it was a firm belief. There were so many studies done about how fats were making Americans fat, or sugars were making American Americans fat. And as it turns out, neither one were true, but they didn't publicize these studies. What we found out was that ultra-processed food is what's making people fat. Right. So get healthy, folks. Get healthy as much as you can. Um, we want we want you around to listen to us for this next year.
SPEAKER_02:I'll I'll end up side with um number one, look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah. Wait, let's talk about that real quick.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_03:I do want people to look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_02:Look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_03:That was a Nazi Germany thing, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02:For the U-boat um crews. That's that's how would they keep them fed on the U-boats?
SPEAKER_03:How sick is that?
SPEAKER_02:That's it's crazy, but it's not even really the craziest thing. Like something like that during Nazi Germany and World War II kind of seems like not that bad of a thing.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just saying it's well, and they tried to market it outside of Germany, and it didn't really go, so they kind of stopped it. But think about the byproducts that are made. Oh my god, and that are dropped into our foods. Yeah. Hey, next time you look at a label, look for those artificial things, yeah, you know, like plastics, because plastics are in your foods now, metals are in your foods. So please pay attention to the labels, pay attention to your health, do something about it. We talked about doctors before, and you know, let's face it, Americans uh most people don't listen to the doctors anyway. You know, doctors say, hey, listen, you need to quit smoking. Did you go home and quit smoking? Hey, you need to stop eating these kinds of foods, and then they get mad at society or they get mad that there's no medicines that are working for them. Yeah. And your doc already told you you needed to lose 100 pounds, folks. Come on, you know, or you needed to lose 30 pounds. So, you know, you need to lose 30 pounds this month. Yeah, doctor. That was pretty good. Okay, well, I think that's probably all we have for today. I'm glad you listened to me, and hopefully you'll look up some stuff. And don't take my word for it and don't take Bobby's word for it. No, don't. Absolutely not. Please look this stuff up. Look at the studies. Don't just look on Google. Search back to the studies of these things and find out for yourself. We appreciate you joining us here at the rabbit hole studio every week. Be sure to follow us. We look forward to spending time with you. And please like us. And if you have some feedback for us, shoot it on over. You can go to our website and uh put a message in there. You can also put a message on our podcast. Is that correct, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02:Well, on our Facebook page.
SPEAKER_03:On our Facebook page only. Okay. Otherwise, sorry. This is how much I get into it. Um, otherwise, send us a short email at Bloomerinjnexture at gmail.com. If you have hate mail, uh, you know, shove it into some food somewhere and give it to your email. You'll never notice. You'll never know. You'll never know. Okay, until next week, I'm Jane Burke. And I'm Bobby Joy.
SPEAKER_02:And you're stuck with us later.