A Boomer and GenXer Walk into a Bar

Strange Trips, Big Laughs S:02E:04

Jane Burt Season 2 Episode 4

Ever had a wild destination vacation? A buffet line on a rocking ship is no one’s idea of fun—especially after a notorious cruise documentary sears a certain plumbing image into your brain. We ditch the decks and steer into the strange: mirror-flat salt deserts that swallow the horizon, a Soviet-era gas crater that’s still burning, and a cat sanctuary island where the purrs outnumber people. We also set our “lottery list” in stone—CERN’s Large Hadron Collider and the Chernobyl exclusion zone—because curiosity and caution can share the same suitcase.

Our adventure maps keep bending toward the uncanny. We talk Paris’s bone-lined catacombs, abandoned coal towns that still smolder, geothermal hellscapes in New Zealand, and the stark halls of Port Arthur’s penal colony in Tasmania. Along the way, we chase experiences that teach—ninja training in Japan, a day cooking with a chef in Paris—and weigh the ethics of dark tourism with a bold idea: a serial killer route designed like a ghost tour, grounded in public records and survivor-respect, meant to illuminate patterns rather than sensationalize harm.

We close by untangling voodoo and hoodoo with care—religion versus folk magic, ritual versus practice—and what real cultural immersion should look like in places like Benin, New Orleans, and Savannah. If your bucket list is ready for more than beaches and bars, this conversation offers a compass for travel that rearranges your thinking without losing your sense of humor. Hit play, subscribe for new episodes, and tell us the weirdest destination you’d add to the map—we’re building the next route with you.

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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome everyone to today's show. Boomer and Gen X are welcome to a bar. Coming to you from the rabbit hole studio where you, as our listeners, we'll explain some wit wisdom, some smart assery, and this mother and that daughter questioning, are we even related? My name is Jane, my co-host is my daughter Bobby. And for the next several minutes, hey, we're here to entertain you, aren't we, Bobby?

SPEAKER_02:

We're here to entertain ourselves indefinitely. I don't even know where that came from. You just started laughing. How do you know? So I can't find my glasses.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no kidding. How do you do? So where that came from is my mom. We had her at the mall when she was alive, and and uh we didn't have we didn't have her there when she was dead. Weekend at Bernie's that one. No, we had her at the mall, and it was the 99 cent store. Yeah, and she didn't have her glasses on, and she ran into a mirror and she turned around and said, Well, how do you do? Just went about her merry way. So, anyway, what's going on, Bobby?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, apparently I'm getting bitched out because of background noise.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, for crying out loud, you got a plastic bag of caramel corn down there that you're gnawing on like that's your feed bag, Wilbur.

SPEAKER_02:

So I was gonna turn around my hoodie and just dump it in the hood part so I could just lean down and take it out.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. Yeah, if you could just keep that background noise. Uh, it's either you dropping your drink on the table.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, me sneezing, god forbid.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, jeez. Or Dr. Domain coughing. What's up with you guys and all your noises? Your bottle.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, little miss, I can't seem to silence my phone and my computer at the same time. Who are you talking to? I don't know. Who would I be talking to? Okay. Whose phone goes meet me? We've all heard it.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, okay, okay. Well, it's silence now, I think. Um, today, so I went to lunch with some ladies, uh, actually, a couple of my nieces and a girlfriend. And um we were talking about taking cruises and vacations and things like that. And we were talking about some of the cruises, and I'll be honest, I do not like sea cruises anymore. I just don't like being on that it's not on silence.

SPEAKER_02:

So, anyway, every time you bring up a cruise, though, all I can think of is that Netflix documentary cruise. That's so gross. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no kidding. But anyway, we were talking about them, and you know, some of 'em like the cruises, the sea cruises. I just didn't like being on somebody else's somebody else's schedule. And if it was a smaller ship, I'm okay with it. But these big, you know, you have to stand in line to stand in line to see if you can get a you know, water taxi to go to port. And everybody on the cruises, I'm not kidding you. They looked miserable. Nobody was smiling.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I no, I won't go on cruises. I if I can't see land, I'm I understand.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, you mentioned that as being an issue for you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But the reason that I'm the poop cruise that forever is gonna be in your mind, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02:

It will, because the way the guy described this one, and this is gonna be gross people. Okay, so he described this one thing where they were like using this toilet to go number two, and since it wouldn't flush because there's no power on board, this is it would be gross. They would put toilet paper over it, and he said it looked like a really messed up lasagna. He said, That's on a documentary.

SPEAKER_01:

He's pooping toilet paper lasagna. And now she doesn't eat lasagna either. Oh no, I'll use some lasagna. I mean, I'm not above that, but oh my gosh, that's so gross. You've got to go to the documentary. I uh yeah, I'm gonna have to, but to be trapped, you know, just to be trapped where you can't. Oh, my worst nightmare. My worst nightmare. Yeah, and you can't get away from the smell. You can't. Yeah. Yeah. How gross, how gross is that. Well, anyway, so we started talking about, you know, some places that we've been and on our vacations, not just cruisers, but on our vacations. And Bobby and I have a couple of locations that we said, if we ever win the lottery, that's gonna be our first tickets out, is to go to these two locations.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And um, but I started looking at unusual or even bizarre or seriously weird travel destinations that some people take.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And one of them, this is kind of well, let's talk about ours first, Bobby. Do you remember where we were gonna go if we won the lottery?

SPEAKER_02:

The hydrogen collider.

SPEAKER_01:

The hydrogen collider. Yeah, yep. And where is that? It's under Switzerland.

SPEAKER_02:

Switzerland and uh Fran is it France? No, it's not France.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no, I think it is. No, I'm pretty sure. Is it? No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Here, let me look at my world map here. Uh oh, wait, is it Switzerland or is it Sweden? You're gonna have to look that one up. The other place that we want to go is Chernobyl. Yeah. Do we want to go there? And it's my understanding that the levels are to the point now where you can take tours and things like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01:

Allegedly. Allegedly. But how cool would that be to go and check that out?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it doesn't say where CERN is. I know it's at CERN. Oh, Geneva, Switzerland. Okay, it's across the border of France and Switzerland.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, so I guess I was right.

SPEAKER_02:

And it is the Hadron Collider. Anyways. I said hydrogen. You did. But you know, we're gonna roll with it because your master's degree trumps my um associate in science. Oh my gosh, is all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. First of all, I didn't finish that master's degree. I was like six credit hours out, and I was making too much money working, and it was like I I'm not gonna go to go to school. Um, anyway, but I do have bachelor's. But um anyway, uh some of the uh bizarre places that people have gone, or what I would consider kind of different places, one of them is called uh Solar de Uni in Bolivia. And it's a vast salt flat that during a certain season it transforms into a giant mirror and reflects the sky and it creates a sea of the stars effect.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's kind of like in the salt flats in what is it, Utah?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That certain times of the year it looks like it's a lake.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I guess, but I think this is probably a little bit more severe.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yeah, because I know I guess different equators, but yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

That'd be kind of cool. I mean, that'd be kind of cool to go see, don't you?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, a salt flat, it just kind of makes me nervous because it's out in the middle of nowhere in the desert.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Another place that came up as unusual natural wonders. And I'm wondering if our listeners are thinking about places that they've been, right? You know, because maybe big places, yeah, that that are seem to be bizarre or unusual or just I don't know, weird. But this is called uh Durvaza Gas Crater, and that's in Turkmenistan. And also known as the Gates of Hell, and it's a massive fiery pit that's been burning over 50 years after a Soviet drilling accident. Now, I watched a documentary about this, and so everybody, of course, is vacated because it's toxic, right? And I can't imagine going there to even see it because it's so toxic there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And what would you do? Just go and see it smoking?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. I mean, pretty it's kind of like the town in America that the coal mines caught on fire.

SPEAKER_01:

And they're still burning.

SPEAKER_02:

They're still burning and they had to completely abandon the town and the surrounding areas.

SPEAKER_01:

Those towns have been abandoned.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I would go there though, but because that's you know, kind of it's well, it's it's silent hill type thing. So yeah, I would totally go to the abandoned town in America.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. I I would, I mean, I wouldn't go to the gates of hell because what what are you gonna do there but watch a fiery pit? I did like watching the documentary.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, it'd be kind of like going to a volcano. Oh, look, there's there's a fiery pit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and you see people walking so close to those, right?

SPEAKER_02:

No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like what if what if the ground shifted and now you're just a little weenie in there?

SPEAKER_02:

Take the warning labels off. Let's do it. Uh see who does it. Yeah. Uh, any weird places that you know of, Bobby? That's I do. I actually have a list. Oh, okay. Yeah. So my top weird place is a place in Japan, or I should say off the coast of Japan, because it's an island and it's called Cat Island.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's where the cats outnumber humans.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, way outnumber humans. Yeah. And they're they're taken care of there. Yeah. And yeah, it's you can't kill them.

SPEAKER_01:

You can't eat them. You can't kill them.

SPEAKER_02:

Dogs aren't allowed on the island.

SPEAKER_05:

Can you eat them? Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01:

They're like protected, but it's like a major deal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Where do they eat cats? Which country is that?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know that there is one. There is one. I know where they eat dogs. Dogs, cats. Dogs in China.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I think that was outline.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh my god, we are completely off track. Anyways, Cat Island in Japan. The locals revere the cats. They're considered good luck, of course. And it's just an entire island where all day long you can just go and pet cats. And you can just pet different cats all day long. That'd be fun for a couple hours. Couple hours. I would go there for a year to pet the cats.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, just drop me off. Uh, I would go there for a while, maybe a few days, and then it's I would totally be in heaven. Oh well, I I would be okay for a while.

SPEAKER_05:

That'd be good torture. Torture dog for someone that was allergic to cats or something, you drop them off. Oh, yeah. You could do that.

SPEAKER_02:

Death of a thousand cuts, but it's just cat allergies. Death with a thousand cats. So I know a place that I know you would love to go. Me? And that is weird, and that I have on my list that I would love to go. Okay. The catacombs of Paris. Oh, yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And it's a travel destination. I mean, there's they do travel. Yeah, you're not supposed to go down there without the tours because once you get in there and it's closed off, it's beyond black. I mean, it's beyond pitch black down there. Yeah. There's literally zero light emanating from anywhere.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know that much about it, but I have seen, you know, not a documentary about it, but I've read a couple of pages, maybe related related to it. And I thought, wow, that would be so much.

SPEAKER_02:

So what happened was the cemeteries were overfilling. And so they would dig up the bodies and bring them to the catacombs to be displayed in a respectful manner. That's right. Because of the plagues and things were filling up the cemeteries too fast. Yeah, so they would reuse the same grave over and over.

SPEAKER_01:

So do they not let them go that deep into the catacombs because of the potential of picking up that uh disease again?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it of course it's not going to be down. There's going to be other stuff down there, you know, just from being enclosed and damp and you know, having the decay, you know, things like that. But the reason is is mostly just for safety. Um, there's also because of vandalism um of the catacombs, they don't let people just go off without, you know, a group leader.

SPEAKER_01:

Because people steal somebody's skull.

SPEAKER_02:

Because people are idiots. Idiots. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah. So the catacombs would be a great one. You know, a creepy one would be the um down in Mexico, they have the island of dolls. I know you've seen that. Dr.

SPEAKER_01:

Domain, have you seen that?

SPEAKER_02:

No.

SPEAKER_01:

The island of dolls? No.

SPEAKER_02:

I know you've seen it on a ghost as ghost adventures going down there. Yeah, creepy things, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But I I've never seen it. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02:

But you've seen it on TV. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That would be funny.

SPEAKER_02:

Just a creepy backstory, a creepy island, and yeah, just you know, creepy lore that goes around it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I I kind of like getting creeped out. I don't know why. It's like uh, you know, would you stay in this haunted house? Yeah, yeah. But absolutely come on. Any haunted house bring it, you know, and let's see what you got.

SPEAKER_02:

But you know, the tours they do down in New Orleans of all the graveyards, the cemeteries. Yeah, that's so cool. And you have to stay together because it's so easy to get lost. And yeah, yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, I would be that.

SPEAKER_01:

That would be fun. I I've never we wanted to do a ghost tour when we were down in Key West. The last time Dr. Domain is um Dr. Domain is over here putting his hand up, like, don't tell this story, don't tell it. So we were weird. I can't I can't even tell it anyway, and it might have something to do with mushrooms. I'm not sure. But I'm the one getting shit. Okay, it's fine. It wasn't really mushrooms, though. It was like mushroom coffee. It's like you know mushroom coffee.

SPEAKER_02:

If you go down to the islands, it's not really um marijuana. It's it's not really island herb.

SPEAKER_01:

It's an island herb. Everybody does it. Oh my goodness. Uh, another place is Panjin Red Beach, which is in China, and that's a coastal area where the ground's covered with a red algae during the autumn. And apparently, and I I have seen pictures online, but I haven't I don't know if they're real or if they've been, you know, fabricated, right? Um, but apparently that's quite stunning because it's a vibrant color, and so that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they have those beaches that have the algae in the water that makes the water glow whenever you move around in the water. There's quite a few beaches that are like that.

SPEAKER_01:

That'd be cool to go see.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, it'd be totally cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Speaking of mushrooms, uh Goblin Valley, Goblin Valley State Park in Utah, they have a landscape of numerous mushroom-shaped hoods that are known as goblins. Utah. Hoodoos. Utah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's weird that you would see that in Utah beings that the Mormons took over. What? But anyway, the Mormons took over. Oh my gosh. Oh my goodness. Um, uh no, they have, I believe it's in southern United States. They have the place that with the erosion and everything, it has uncovered um tracks of humans and animals from like tens of thousands of years ago. Where's that? I believe it's in the southern United States. I want to say right around Arizona or something like that. Hmm. Yeah. And they have like the dinosaur state park where you can see still see the dinosaur tracks that have been like put into there.

SPEAKER_01:

It's funny you say that, you know, because I used to have to go to the mines, the underground mines and stuff for my job because I was in the energy industry and mines were part of it. And we did that for vacation a few times. Yeah, yeah. Not willingly, um, or not on purpose. But anyway, I remember one of the mines out in Wyoming that we went to, the guy showed us a dinosaur print up on the ceiling, and it was the coolest thing. I mean, it was massive, but it was the coolest thing, and they go, Yeah, that's definitely been confirmed as a dinosaur print.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's way cooler. That's a vacation I would take is to just go walk amongst them. Because I mean, think how small you would feel. That'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, there's also the hand in the desert in Chile, it's a large sculpture of a hand emerging from the desert floor in the Atacama desert.

SPEAKER_02:

Does it like move?

SPEAKER_01:

No, but can you imagine seeing a huge hand coming out of the ground?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I'd be like, that's a people thing. That's not really weird to me, I guess.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, like somebody just built it. No, I mean, like, why not? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe I if I was out in the desert and I didn't have anything else to do besides pick my butt, yeah, I would build a lot of things. Well, what else do you have on your list? It's so interesting. I have the Winchester Mystery House. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That that we would go see too. That would be number three, though, on our list. Yeah, yeah. I have to see that before I died. Yeah, absolutely. Because that's just crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

It's just crazy how it we got, you know, they got there with that whole thing.

SPEAKER_02:

So, and I have an idea about a bizarre vacation, like destination type thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So, what if so we've talked before about like um how big true crime has become and things like that, you know, the documentaries, everything like that. What if they did like a tour of the routes or places of serial killers?

SPEAKER_01:

That caused some silence right there. So you're talking about like across the country or across the city.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I'm saying like you pick a serial killer. Okay, like let's say the BTK killer. Okay. Okay. Okay. Or even the Green River killer. Okay. You go and, you know, you see where they lived, you see the bars they went to, you see, you know, where they pick these people up, and then you drive the path, you know, to where they were found and stuff like that. And come on, it's like a ghost tour. No, it's a ghost tour, but with all of the evidence. Yeah. I don't know. Like a little packet that has all the information in it that's been released. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Just sick enough, someone's gonna pick up that idea.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's a cool idea because but okay, patent pending.

SPEAKER_02:

Look, you're not taking it from me. Okay, this is a multi-million dollar idea, is all I'm saying. She's gonna make her money. Like then you have those serial killers, um, Israeli uh or is what was his name? Shit. Anyways, he went all across the country. Yeah, and even into Canada. I mean, that could be like a two-week trip right there, just going around to places and flying into airports like he did, and then following his path.

SPEAKER_01:

And if I come on if I was on the path, and I'm very I have uh very sensitive, I have sensitivity to this stuff. If I was on the path to Jeffrey Dahmer's from Jeffrey Dahmer's house, apartment okay, apartment to down by the freezer, um up by the stove.

SPEAKER_05:

Um hot on the trail.

SPEAKER_01:

And I followed a path by which he would have taken to go pick these people up, yeah, and then what vehicle he used, and you know, just kind of follow that whole thing around. I'm afraid it would freak me out because Well, yeah, that's kind of what you you got haunted places to get freaked out.

SPEAKER_02:

Why wouldn't you pay for a serial killer? I think it's a cool idea. I mean, like you get the whole case file and you go step by step and go, Bobby, I'm serious. I think you need to get on this. I think I might need to, but I would totally do that. Like I would book a tour. I would do it, I would do it too. Okay, well, there we go. There we have an idea. Nobody can take it. It's mine. I liked it. It's mine. You guys can't take it from me now.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, there's some weird uh experiences that you can have too on your vacations, uh, willingly and unwillingly. That's right. Did you know in Japan, though, that you can go and learn to be a ninja? Yes.

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Of course.

SPEAKER_01:

I did know that actually. That is so cool. Yeah, so they have that unique opportunity, you know, to learn the historical and martial arts of being a ninja.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like going to guitar camp for the week. I mean, that'd be kind of cool too. You know, you learn some stuff and then they make you feel like really cool for knowing it, and then they send you home.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I didn't know they had the ninja thing. I mean, I know they have like learn how to knit or learn how to, you know, crochet.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, now they have those trips where you go and you book an experience, not just a trip. So you book an experience with a top chef in Paris. Yeah, that'd be cool. And they go when they teach you, you know, they cook right in front of you and they teach you things and stuff like that. So they yeah, they have these experiences you can book. I've just missed out on so many things.

SPEAKER_05:

I guess you could be a ninja knitter.

SPEAKER_01:

Please don't say those two work together lastly. Please. So have you gone to any what you would consider to be seriously weird vacation locations on purpose. Everyone with mom. On purpose. Everyone's one with mom.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, but I meant on purpose.

SPEAKER_05:

No, there's a couple. Um, one of them we've been on was Hell's Gate.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, we did go. Geothermal.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_01:

In New Zealand.

SPEAKER_05:

In New Zealand. Uh Rotorrura. Rotorura.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, did you guys go see them? Did you see that?

SPEAKER_05:

Red Rotorura, I think, is a name.

SPEAKER_02:

I probably did you guys go see the um the sets and stuff for Lord of the Rings while you were over there?

SPEAKER_05:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

We did not.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, you had already seen it, hadn't you?

SPEAKER_05:

I I saw like a little bit of uh a set that was in the town, but I think they charge you a whole bunch.

SPEAKER_01:

I thought he had already seen it, and I thought I was a vacation. I don't I I've never seen it. I know nothing about Lord of the Rings. Absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_02:

You have to go skydiving, you have to go snorkeling, and you have to go see the Lord of the Rings set.

SPEAKER_05:

So the other the other one that I think was fascinating was um a place called Port Arthur in Tasmania. And that was kind of a neat experience.

SPEAKER_01:

What'd you do there?

SPEAKER_05:

It's a a penal colony that the I think the Brits had set up in because I guess they were full in Britain with all the bad people, so they shipped them to Tasmania.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, like they did with Australia.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, full circle. The little island south of Australia, Tasmania. And they what they would do is they ship them there.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yeah, but I mean they did it to the whole island of Australia.

SPEAKER_05:

And they were known to be like super strict. The guards would go so far as to put like felt on the soles of their boots so it wouldn't make any noise. Like totally silent, and it'd just drive people crazy. And then had a a room where they would do experiments on people, and it was a big table, and then it would kind of slope down into a trough, so all the blood and everything would go that way, and then the rest of it would go into the oven. They'd light the oven and stuff. Oh my god. They did tours of that.

SPEAKER_01:

That would be cool. Did you do that tour?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, that would be cool.

SPEAKER_05:

It's pretty creepy.

SPEAKER_01:

You know where else I would like to go, and you had mentioned this on one of our shows, was where we believe that Hitler and his gang uh were sent after the war.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, Brazil. Yeah, yeah. But there's like an unlike island area right there where Dr.

SPEAKER_02:

Domain sent after like his remains? No, where they escaped to after World War II. Nobody really found his body there. Catch up Dr. Domain. You might want to try to go and re-listen to it.

SPEAKER_05:

That was another episode. Oh. Conspiracy theories.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you might want to go re-listen to it to know what we're talking about. But yeah, yeah, the lodge and everything down there. I would like to see that would be so cool.

SPEAKER_01:

That would be cool. And just talk to some of the locals. Yeah. The old people to you know, older than me. I mean, I know some German, so I mean, that's a huge you know a couple of cuss words, and that's that's a huge language down there for a reason.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, is also I'm saying something in German. I have been kein guilt. Oh, whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, that was probably something pretty derogatory. Das passt gut. The last place that I have was uh where you could, and this was an experience, explore with a voodoo priestess in in Benin. And that's West African nation, and that is the birthplace of voodoo. And apparently it offers a really deep cultural immersion into that particular type of we'll call it spiritual because it is uh type of thing. I wouldn't go to that, of course, but what an experience.

SPEAKER_05:

I would rather it's West Africa. Is that what you say? This is West Africa. Oh, just go to Savannah, you experience Sandra. Just go to Norland. Oh, sure that Savannah.

SPEAKER_02:

But honestly, I would rather have hoodoo than voodoo because hoodoo is a lot cooler of a spirituality. Tell me the difference between hoodoo and voodoo is literally like a mix of the French and the what is it, the um Caucasian? Anyways, it's more of a mix of it. The hoodoo is more of a traditional African um spirituality.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Well, I'll tell you what the real what the actual definition is.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Uh voodoo is an organized religion with its own ritual spiritual beings and uh hierarchical structure stemming from West Africa traditions and evolving into the district forms of, you know, Haitian voodoo. In contrast, voodoo is a system of folk magic, not a religion, focused on practice. Okay, Dr. Domain is doing something here that's making my mic go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. He's coloring on the table. You leave him alone. Anyway, um, so what I was saying is it's not a religion, it's focused on practical outcomes like healing and protection through the use of spirituality, her like herbs, roots, and natural objects. So, anyway, a little bit different, but whatever. Yeah. So anyways, anyways, I think that's probably all we've got today, unless you've got another location, Bobby, that we need to add to our vacation list when we win the lottery.

SPEAKER_02:

No, but honestly, um, yeah, I gotta get on that serial killer um tour.

SPEAKER_01:

Man, I'm telling you, I think you got an idea going on there that's gonna make you millions.

SPEAKER_02:

God, I hope so.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't forget your mama. Don't forget your mama.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll put you in a nice nursing home. Yeah, with a lock on the outside door. Well, that is all the insanity that we have for today. We appreciate you joining us here at the Rabbit Hole Studio. Be sure to follow us because we look forward to spending time with you each week. Please like us. And if you have positive feedback or if there's a topic or a question you would like us to talk about, drop us a short email at boomer and genxer at gmail.com. If you have hate mail, well, I mean, I guess drop it as a clue along my serial killer tour because we might use it. So until next week, I'm Bobby Joy. And I'm Jane Bird. And you're stuck with us later.