Cryptids 101 With A Boomer And Gen Xer - Bigfoot to Chupacabra S:02E:36

Something is stomping around the edges of human belief, and we can’t help chasing it into the woods. We’re talking cryptids: the creatures people swear they’ve seen even when science rolls its eyes. From Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster to the Jersey Devil, the Kraken, mermaids, and the infamous chupacabra, we bounce through the legends that keep showing up in campfire stories, old maps, and late night rabbit holes. And Bobbi is really into it!!

Are cryptids just “creepy things,” or are they folklore doing a real job, like warning people away from danger, keeping kids in bed, or putting a face on fear when life gets harsh? We connect the dots between mythmaking, oral tradition, and the way tales get softened or sharpened over generations, then we take a turn into the cases that make skeptics pause.

We debate a twisty question: if a cryptid were proven real tomorrow, which one would you want found and which one should stay hidden so humans don’t ruin it? We also put out a challenge: help us track down someone who knows the Van Meter Visitor legend from Iowa. Subscribe, share the show with your favorite monster nerd, and leave a review with the cryptid you want us to cover next.

email: boomerandgenxer@gmail.com

Transcript

Welcome Back To The Studio\n

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Welcome everyone to the to today's show. A boob. I'm trying to record. Okay. Can you get your shit together down there, please? Please get your shit together. Okay. It's all together. I've pulled it all together. Okay, Dr.

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Domingo. Not all spread out anymore.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Okay. Here we go. Welcome everyone to today's show. A boomer and a Gen X are walking to a bar coming to you from the rabbit hole studio, where you, as our listener, will experience some wit and wisdom, some smart assery, and a mother and daughter questioning. Are we even related? My name is Bobby Joy, and my co-host is my dot my mother, my daughter, my mother Jane. And for the next little bit, I'm about to school my mother on uh some on some stuff. Some stuff here.

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It's been a long time. It has been a long time. It has been a long time. So as everybody knows, we are back in the rabbit hole. And uh it's kind of fun being face to face. And other times uh Bobby gets this feared look in her eyes because she knows that I can now jump the entire studio and get to her. Like a spider monkey. Like a spider monkey coming at you.

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So anyway, um, what's new today, Bob? Anything? Oh, you know, just um thought I saw Sasquatch out in your backyard. But other than that, what was it? Dr. Domain.

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I don't know if that's an insult or a compliment, Doc. I don't know.

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He's built well.

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He is built well and he is hairy. You move really fast. Something you don't have hair.

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Oh lord.

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Oh my goodness. Well, anyway, what are we talking about today, Bob?

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So no.

What Cryptids Actually Mean\n

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Today we're talking about some cryptids.

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Cryptids? I don't even know what that is. Is that like creepy things? What is that?

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Creepy things? Well, I mean, some people think they're kind of creepy, but um, cryptids are actually animals or beings whose existence is disputed or unsubstantiated by science.

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Oh, are we talking about like the Loch Ness monster?

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Like the Loch Ness monster.

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Sweet!

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Yeah, Bigfoot or Sasquatch. Okay, okay, the Loch Ness monster or Nessie, as she has been known.

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Is it in Ireland? No, yeah, yes, it's in Ireland.

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What Scotland, I think Scotland.

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Scotland Loch Ness. Oh, yes, Scotland. Uh Mothman. Mothman. We talked about that in a previous episode, and I had never even heard of Mothman, and you two seem to be like the Wikipedia of Mothman.

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He's big, Dante. He's like a superhero.

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I did not know that.

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His autograph's worth a million.

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How about the chupacabra?

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His autograph is worth million. Oh gosh, the chupacabra. So um I think I might have said this on uh to you before. Oh Lord, I know. I'm gonna tell you this one time. So I thought walking back from school both ways, barefoot with no coat. So I bought this land down in Georgia.

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Oh Lord, okay.

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There were three houses on it, and then there was this uh like an underground ground garage or something. And so when I bought it, I decided to have all those three houses torn down and have the big barn torn down, blah, blah, blah. And and that garage thing was like almost underground. And um, it was underground, okay. And so we went in there looking for stuff because we're you know, we're always looking for treasure hunting, yeah. Yeah, kinda, and I looked down and there's this animal that's dead on the ground, and it looked like a chupacabra.

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How would you know what a chupacabra looks like? Only by what I've seen on Wikipedia.

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But I did take a picture of this. I did take a picture of him. It was spooky. Do you remember, Doc? You don't remember this?

SPEAKER_00 4:21

I remember. I just I'm trying to recall the what do you look like?

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I think you know, I thought it was a dog. I mean, it was it was big and the skin was still on it, but it was all deteriorated. It had been there for like

Chupacabra Story From Georgia\n

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probably 30 years. But I don't know that it was a dog. I mean, it it was really weird, and that's what made me go, oh, the chupaca, bro.

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But she's like, oh my god, it's the goat sucker. I don't have no goats, but it's the goats.

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It's the goat sucker. Don't ever bring any goats over here, they'll be stalked.

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So uh, what about the Jersey Devil?

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What's the Jersey Devil?

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You've never heard of the Jersey Devil? Never in my life. Oh my gosh. You know, I'm actually kind of disappointed because I know you like true crime and crap, but you've never delved into this. Jersey Devil? So that is over in Pine Barrens of New Jersey. It's a cryptid said to inhabit over there. It's typically described as a flying biped. What's a biped? So two box on two legs? Oh. Did it? Biped? Biped. So it's got hooves and a kangaroo-like body and a horse-like head.

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Oh, wait a minute. I didn't know that's what it was called, but I think I've seen a picture of it in Wikipedia.

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You in Wikipedia. Um, how about the Yeti?

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What is the Yeti? Abominable snowman. Yeah, yeah. So we've all heard of that.

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So we've all heard of that because of, you know, like the um Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer. Yes. The old yeah, so we know about that. And the coolers.

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And the coolers.

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Okay, yeah, sure. Yeah. Uh, like you said, the chupacabra. Mongolian deathworm.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Ooh. That sounds like something that's at the bottom of a tequila bottle.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

Well, the Mongolian death worm. Remote Gobi Desert, bottom of tequila bottle. Kind of the same thing. That would be a cool name for tequila, wouldn't it? Okay, well, this is actually so it's said to um be able to spit corrosive venom and deliver lethal electric discharges. I'm not sure I want that in my freaking tequila.

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Probably not a good selling point.

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How about the kraken? The kraken we have kraken. We have cracking. Very good rum, right? Yeah. So that goes way back. That goes way back into the days of you know, seafaring people when they were hand-drawing maps, right?

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Wait a minute. That was a long time ago.

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Back when another cryptid, the mermaids.

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Mermaids or man maids.

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Or man, okay. Man maids. I guess we're not getting sexist here.

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Are there man maids?

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Well, you know, you gotta think back then most of the ship crew were men. You think that they were looking for man maids? No, they were looking for mermaids. Mermaids are also a cryptid.

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That's interesting, isn't it? Yes, because I thought mermaids were real. Right now, Bobby is looking at me like I just had a stroke. She is might have. I'm just teasing. I didn't think that mermaids are a little bit of a chance. But now, you know, I never did.

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These have gone back for centuries. You know, you think of things like dragons.

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Dragons from War Here.

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We did have they're in the Bible. Yeah. But which which which version of dragon are you talking? Uh the symbolic encrypted kind.

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Which kind of the green ones. I don't know. I don't know.

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But that's what I'm saying. You know, the the um megalodon.

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Oh. Yeah.

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It's a giant prehistoric shark, right? It was once a cryptid.

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What about the troglodyte? Do you know what a troglodyte is?

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I do. What? Give me a second. My brain is processing.

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Don't hurt yourself. I smell smoke.

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It's literally hurting right now.

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It has a third eye in their forehead. Troglodite? Troglite? Yeah, they have a third eye in their forehead.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

You're insane. No. That was a cyclops, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Oh, yeah. I thought. Thanks for screwing up my cool job. Thanks, Dr. Domain, for making me look like an idiot. What was it?

SPEAKER_01 8:51

How about the Van Meter visitor? Is that Van Meter, Iowa? Van Meter, Iowa. Yeah, I've heard that. Back in the 1920s. An entire town was known to have seen this. Not just one or two people, an entire town, an entire population.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Well, yeah, you gotta do a whole show on that one. There's gotta be someone in Van Meter that can tell us about that.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

You think that we could do an interview with them? You really think that there's when was this? 1920s.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Oh yeah, maybe not. Well, probably there's probably relativists that could talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

I've got pictures. There's there's newspaper clippings, there's you know, articles and things like that. There's there are descendants of people around that time.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

That'd be interesting. Um about a leprechaun.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Okay, so leprechauns, those are cryptids. I've got fairies and leprechauns. Same with fairies, those are considered cryptids. Fairies are real now. Jesus Lord.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

How many drinks have I had? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Not enough. Not enough.

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Depends on what kind of fairy you're talking

Jersey Devil And Yeti Basics\n

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about. So let's let's let's trolls. Trolls?

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Trolls. Okay. Trolls. Okay. Okay. So, you know, we talked about cryptids as things that cannot be basically scientifically proven, right? Even werewolves are considered a cryptid.

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Well, yeah.

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Because they can't be scientifically proven, right? Banshee. Dracula. A vampire. Would they be? They would be. A sphinx.

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Wait a minute.

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Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because it has the head of a human, the body of a lion, and the wings of a falcon. What are those things called that have the head of a human and then the body of a horse? What are those called? Centaur. Centaur. Like a minotaur. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay. Where do we come up with all of these things? Well, there has to be a precedence somewhere, is is my whole thing. A hydra. So a multi-headed serpent from Greek mythology.

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Like a tri-headed. I've seen those. Yeah, it grows not to be a little bit more than a few. The hydra.

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I don't know what you're taking, but I want some. The hydra actually has two heads for everyone severed. So every time you sever a head, two heads grow back in its place. So the hydra can actually have like there's infinite heads that it could have.

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Greek mythology, Medusa.

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Right. That was one, wasn't it? Was that one? Medusa. Medusa? Yeah, yeah. Because she had the snakes for her. Right. A kelpie. You know what a kelpie is? No. Tell me. It's a Scottish folklore spirit. It's a shape-shifting water spirit that usually appears as a horse, but not always. And it lures travelers to their doom. How is it a water spirit then? Because it lures them to the water. But it usually appears as a horse. Oh. So it could How about an Oni? You know what an Oni is? A car? Sounds like something. Yeah, it's a cars like something that runs people off the road. No, it's like an electric car. It's actually found in Japanese folklore. Somebody should make an Oni. Not this Oni.

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Okay. Tell me about it.

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It's a ferocious horned ogre. It's ogre-like demon found in Japanese folklore, known for their immense strength, strength, and malicious deeds.

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Malicious deeds. Malicious deeds. I think I dated one. I think I've dated a few. I think you've dated more than I have. I think that I may have, yeah, actually. So do some of these things come from, you know, mythical things like dungeons and dragons and games and things like that, or stories. And that kind of thing?

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Kind of the opposite. So a lot of those pull from lore, from things that have been passed down for generations. And you have to wonder, you know, where's folklore getting it from that have been passed down for generations? Could it be from somebody's imagination, from somebody saying, hey, let me make this up so that you know my kids stay in bed, or you know, people behave type of thing? Because, you know, if you look back at um the original um, oh shit, what are they called? You know, the people that did like uh the German Hansel and Gretel and things like that. What were their names?

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Oh grandbrothers. Yeah, grandbrothers.

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So

Death Worm Kraken And Mermaids\n

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their original stories were gruesome. I mean, they were absolutely, and you know, they were kind of doled down for for kids as the generations went on.

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So you're kids. I want to tell you a story about two kids that get lost in the way and get eaten by an old witch.

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Right. And you know, they still they started out really, really kind of brutal, and then they kind of you know softened them up as the generations went on. So you have to think did these cryptids, these monsters, start out like that? Is that how they started? Because you know, these people were making things up, or did these things actually happen? And this is how people saw them.

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So I blame the Twilight Zone. That thing used to scare me.

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So let's let let's talk about that for a minute because you know, there are things out there that used to be classified as cryptids that are actually founded to be real. Like what?

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The Tasmanian tiger? The Tasmanian tiger. Because I think they at one point, well, it's now extinct, or we think it's extinct.

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We think it is, but they're still hunting for it because they think that they've found some trails of the of it. Oh yeah. Yeah, but I think it was like previously to make a series.

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Previously they thought it was fake and then they discovered it was real.

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Right. Yeah. What about the Tasmanian Devil? Jesus, here we go. Do I derail? Is that derailing? Well, you're in the same country as us.

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We were talking about Tasmania.

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But I thought we were talking about cryptid is Tasmanian Devil. Um oh, that was a Hannah Barbera cartoon, wasn't it, or something?

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You know how it is. Here she goes.

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I would just want all of our listeners to know that Bobby has hung her head and Dr. Domain is just rolling his eyes, and now he has his hands over his eyes. Okay, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

So let's talk about some of the cryptids that are actually verified and cataloged by science. Oh. So uh let's talk about the African unicorn.

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Say what?

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The Okapi. What? Yeah. So this solitary zebra-legged cousin of the giraffe. Does it have a horn in the middle of its head?

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Oh, well, why do you think it calls it the African unicorn? So is it just a bump on their head or is it an actual horn?

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So they dismiss it as oh my god, you want me to pull up a picture? Hold on. Yeah, I'm gonna have to.

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I want to just I want I want to know what it looks like.

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Is it the black, the black version of the white unicorn? Oh, but it's from Africa. You know, it kind of stands right.

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I don't know. There's white people from Africa, you know. They're not all black. I don't know how to sense it.

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How do you what do you well? It's it's a it's a it's actually I don't know how to explain this to you. Yes, there's there's this thing sticking out of their forehead. Yes. Is it is like a rhinoceros? Their legs look like a rhinoceros, no, it's rhinoceros, it's not a rhinoceros. It's not a we're all too drunk for this. It's not a rhinoceros, but their legs are zebra striped. Zebra? Zebra. Zebra? Zebra striped and they got this thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Is she trying to is she trying to be part of a listen?

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I love that you're back in the studio. I love that. I know I'm driving you so much.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Where the hell did you get zebra?

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Are you like part of a gang now? What is the same reason I say aluminium because that's how it's freaking pronounced. Okay, that's not really that might be how it's sounded out. Okay, whatever. Here we go. Okay, okay. Anyways, the Okapi was dismissed as a myth. Okay, it was finally classified by classified by science. You see, you got me all screwed up in 1901. Someone finally freaking saw this thing in 1901, and it was finally classified, but before that, it was a cryptid, and they didn't call it a zebra. Oh, the way I'm gonna go. If you guys hear footsteps and then a crash, it's me coming across this desk like a fire brawl.

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Everybody look, run, it's a zebra.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Listen, people overseas, I want you to chime in and tell her that it's pronounced zebra.

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Okay.

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It is zebra. The giant squid. The giant squid. That'd be a hell of a meal. The giant squid. I'm trying to stay on track here.

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Is that like the cousin of the Kraken? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Really? He looked like a squid.

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I'm trying to bring a serious tone to this conversation.

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When physical evidence surfaced, it wasn't until 2004 that researchers captured the first image of a living giant squid in its natural habitat. So we're talking like the 1300s. So how big was this giant squid? As big as Rhode Island. Okay. It had to be huge. Give me one moment. And is it in captivity? Is it still alive? No, it was alive. So they captured it in its habitat. Okay. Okay. So it was. She's looking this up as we as we speak because I'm throwing her off. So it was roughly 900 meters, which is 26 feet.

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That's a big squid.

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That's a big squid.

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900 meters is more than 26 feet. Okay. Hold on.

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What am I meant to be? Okay.

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That's for all of our Spanish speaking people.

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What am I meant to pour?

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Okay. We're waiting for her to talk about this squid that we're the size. Put on the Barbie size.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

You know, my favorite word to use to speak in Spanish. What? To Spanish people?

SPEAKER_01 19:52

What? Bobby. Eight meters. 26 feet.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

No, my favorite word to speak to Spanish in Spanish, to Spanish people.

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What is it?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

It's mucho. That's a lot. It means a lot to them.

Myth Creatures And Where They Come From\n

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So this is so. The one in Japan. Well, I think we've lost our living nurse. Livingers.

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So the one in Japan, bringing it back. The one in Japan in 2004 measured roughly eight meters, 26 feet in total length. Now, another notable giant squid captured the same year off the Falcon Islands measured 8.62 meters, which was 28.3 feet.

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That's a big squid. I want you to know how serious she is about this point. And she is so into the science business that she is holding onto her microphone with her hand. It's because it's got anything up wrapping around your throat right now. I know. She's got her hand on her mic, and she is so one hand on my mic, one hand on my drink. That is true. That is true. But in all fairness, I mean that's a huge squid. So huge.

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So where is it?

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Did it die?

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Did they no? It was captured in its living habitat. So it was actually in the ocean. So they left it? They left it. They left it alone, thank God. So here's another one, the platypus. Wait a minute. The platypus was a cryptid. I thought the platypus exists. Yeah. Yeah, but they thought it never existed. Oh. I mean, could you imagine someone coming up to you and saying, hey, I was out in the bush in Australia and I saw this furry mammal with a duck bill and a beaver tail. Yeah. Could you imagine the look on people's faces if they it That'd be cool to see?

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But I want our listeners to look these up.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Yeah.

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I want them to look up a platypus because if you've never seen one, where did we see them on cartoons or something? Oh yeah. I just remember the platypus.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Yeah, all the time. Yeah. They were crazy. Um 1910, the Komodo Dragon. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

So of all these cryptids that are out there today, yeah. Which one do you want to not be the next one to be discovered as not a cryptid?

SPEAKER_01 21:59

As not a Crypted.

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Yeah.

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Oh man. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Bigfoot.

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Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Why?

SPEAKER_02 22:05

I want him to be found, man. I want, I want, but you know, the thing is, is if you're you want to give meaning to that sticker on the back of your truck.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Yeah. And then I party Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

You know, the problem is though, is once somebody finds them, then they'll want to experiment on them or something and kill them. That's why I don't want them to find Bigfoot. I don't want them to find Epper.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I don't want him to find one of my things.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

So would you rather be like a sea monster type where they're more difficult to capture or which one? Yeah, pick one.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

I gotta pick one. Okay. Um the Wendy go. You don't know what a Wendigo is? She just told us. No, I didn't. I didn't touch on the Wendigo yet. So it's an algonquin folklore. Um Algonki. Algonkin? Uh it originates in the It originates in the northern forests of the United States and Canada. It's a supernatural entity born in like of human greed and starvation. According to the legend, encountering one puts you at risk of being hunted, but it can possess humans and drive them to a state of permanent starving madness. So it can like skinwalker? Yeah, it's kind of like a skinwalker where it can like take take your body and then like starving madness type of thing. Like the aliens.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Why would you want that? What redeeming value would they have?

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Uh because I think humanity is just right now.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Yeah, sick among your aliens.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Oh my gosh. Well, I think taking us down a notch is saying so long farewell. I I really want people to look this up though. I want them to look up some of those. You never said yours. The chupacabra. Oh, yeah. I think why I think that'd be cool. Yeah, I'd think it'd be cool to see them.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah. To see them.

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Because more pe I think there's more people out there that have claimed that they've seen that than anything else.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Okay, wait, wait, wait. Describe the chupacabra.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Like a dog, only um a foxtail, kind of, and big huge teeth, and a small head. Chupacabra. I've seen it on Wikipedia. Wikipedia.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Well, I'm just you know anybody can go in and put what they want in Wikipedia.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

I know. You've edited Wikipedia before. I know. It's like crazy. So anyway, I think that's probably all we have for today, don't you think, Bobby? I think so. I do want our listeners to look some of these up though, because they're kind of cool. And they the myth behind them or the stories behind them. The lore. The lore. But you know what? We are gonna find somebody in Iowa in Van Meter. Let's find somebody from Van Meter that knows about the legend there. That'd be awesome. Let's see if we can.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

So if you're out there from Van Meter and you want to talk about the visitor. Or you know someone from Van Meter.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Get a hold of us. Get a hold of us. Contact us. And so that's all we have for today. And we appreciate you joining us here at the Rabbit Hole Studio. Be sure to follow us, and we look forward to spending time with you every week. Please like us, share us. If you have positive feedback or if there's a topic you want us to talk about, drop us an email at BoomerandgenXer at gmail.com. Now listen, folks, we want to know about this Van Meter thing. So if you know anybody in Van Meter, Iowa, you know how to contact somebody in Van Meter, Iowa that can talk to us about this mythical creature. We want to know about it. Um, if you have hate mail for us, you know what? We do enough damage to each other. We don't need your mail. You know where you can put that. So until next week, I'm Jane Burt and I'm Bobby Joy. And you're stuck with us. Peace out.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Later.