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BeTempered Episode 38 - Faith, Strength, and Triumph: Inspiring Journeys of 2024

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What does it mean to truly overcome adversity and emerge stronger? Join hosts Dan Schmidt and Ben Spahr as we reminisce about our year-long podcast journey, from our early days recording in a basement to thriving in a professional studio. We reflect on the incredible stories shared by our guests, like Brad's moving account of his challenging upbringing and the touching interaction with his son Drew. These moments have not only illuminated the power of resilience but have also reinforced our mission to share impactful narratives that resonate deeply with our listeners.

Throughout this year, we've been privileged to host remarkable individuals like Greg Pettit and Jason Koger, whose stories of perseverance continue to inspire. Greg transformed a moment of discouragement into a driving force for success, while Jason's journey, living life without arms, showcases an indomitable spirit and positivity. We also remember Kelly Daniel, who taught us about unwavering faith amid health struggles. Each story serves as a testament to how courage can bloom in the face of life's toughest challenges.

As we reflect on these powerful experiences, we're reminded of the profound impact our podcast has had in building a community of empathy and understanding. We encourage our audience to connect with us by sharing their own stories, fostering a collective space for healing and growth. Exciting developments like our growing YouTube channel and new merchandise line are steps we're taking to ensure our mission continues to thrive. We are deeply grateful for your support and look forward to sharing more stories that touch and inspire.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Be Tempered Podcast, where we explore the art of finding balance in a chaotic world.

Speaker 3:

Join us as we delve into insightful conversations, practical tips and inspiring stories to help you navigate life's ups and downs with grace and resilience.

Speaker 2:

We're your hosts, Dan Schmidt and Ben Spahr. Let's embark on a journey to live our best lives.

Speaker 3:

This is Be Tempered.

Speaker 2:

What's up everybody. Welcome to the Be Tempered podcast, episode number 38. He almost said a half. Today we're going to do a year in review, kind of talk about the podcast, where we were, where we are and where we hope to be going. So 2024, what a year.

Speaker 2:

What a year. A lot of things, you know, both with the podcast, with the business, with the farm. A lot of things happen, a lot of life lessons for me, a lot of learning for me and for For me, definitely a year of growth and a year of fulfillment. And a lot of that has to do with this podcast and it wasn't really anything I anticipated. No, you know, from our humble beginnings in the basement of my home, recording on an iPhone, hoping and praying that the sound was on and that it would work, to now we're in this major production studio at the Global Media Enterprise with an executive producer.

Speaker 2:

Kevin Shook, who's been amazing, and I'm still looking back. Are we sure this ain't 38? It might be 38, but there's one episode in there. I'm not counting.

Speaker 3:

So once again 38.

Speaker 2:

Okay, no, but we are so grateful and so what we wanted to talk about there there's there's been amazing guests we've had on um, and everybody's story is unique and that's the whole purpose of the beat tempered podcast. I think for those listeners out there who have have been uh, listening throughout the whole 33 episodes, 34 episodes in 2024, um, you know, and, and a couple of them, uh, a couple of my top ones that I'd like to hit on and go back to Brad and Evan. Yeah, brad was the first one. You know Brad has been a family friend for a long time, a retired superintendent, and you know I felt like I knew Brad, but that was the first time when we brought him on in the basement.

Speaker 2:

When we brought him on in the basement and he told his story, where it kind of clicked for me like okay, this is what it's about. It's about everyone has a story. You don't know what that story is, and Brad's story was one that shocked me because, you know, his dad was an alcoholic, he was abusive. There was a lot of things that Brad and his brother dealt with growing up that you know I didn't have to deal with growing up and you know, but a lot of people do, and so when I heard his story, that was kind of when the light bulb flashed on. It was like, okay, if Brad's got a story like this, everybody's got some type of story that needs to be shared and someone else out there can hear that story and learn from it Right and you also thought, I mean, like you said, you thought you knew him, you did.

Speaker 3:

I believe you guys are in a couple of different like clubs together and stuff like that. And so everybody has a story and, and you know, a lot of times people don't know the backstory, how they got to where they are or where they're at now. So if we get enough stories out there, I think we'll just continue to keep, you know, inspiring people who are going? Through the same thing, or who went through the same thing to tell their stories yeah, and so brad was one of those.

Speaker 2:

For me. Uh, brad nevin, how about for you?

Speaker 3:

uh, so, um, brad and drew van vliet, that was the first one for me, uh, I put. One of the most impactful moments that we've done in this podcast was when Brad shared his conversation with Drew about switching schools. And just you know, being there in their dining room and seeing you know the emotion on their face and and Drew's openness and willingness to just tell his dad like I'm ready to write my own story. It's a testament to their strength, their relationship and Drew's courage to take ownership of his life and just all that. And you know their story is one that inspired me that it's like man. I hope you know, when Jude, cy, evie get to that age, they have that openness and strength to tell me that stuff and have that courage.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and that was unique for me too, because you know Brad and his wife Kelly. They're, you know, some of our best friends, of our family, and we've shared a lot of life experiences together and have watched these kids grow up, you know, from when the day they were born until now and to be a part of that story as it was happening, and then to hear and to see that emotion, you know, from Brad and Drew. It was very powerful and again it goes back to everybody's got a story. It was very powerful and again it goes back to everybody's got a story Right. And and from that we moved into the studio then with with my former college football coach, mike Kelly, and obviously for that one, for me, with him being a father figure like he was to me, was um man, was just so awesome for me.

Speaker 2:

Whether anybody else liked it or not, I don't care that that was my one. Coach Kelly was my man, he was my mentor, he was um, he was the guy that held me accountable and that pushed me to to be the best that I could be, not only in playing football but, uh, you know, as as a man, and so it was. It was pretty awesome to have him up here and and to bring that enthusiasm back that he has and, um, you know he's, he's just, uh, he's just an awesome man.

Speaker 2:

So that was you know, that was one for me that I'm not gonna forget yeah, man, just keep it vanilla.

Speaker 3:

Keep it vanilla, that's right. Keep it simple. Keep it simple. Uh, my next one that I had was uh the sean rubush one. Uh, just the countless journeys that guy's been through and the trials that he keeps going through and overcome, it's nothing sort of remarkable. And then his strength and resilience are evident in the way that he mentors the youth, you know, with uh coach at high school, and I mean you know anything about being around kids anymore and they always like to come up with excuses and stuff like that of why you aren't doing it. And he just flat out said you know, I mean, you have all these excuses. Guess what? I've been through this, this. You have no excuse. Don't give me an excuse.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and Sean is a remarkable man, I mean, and his story happened at a young age right.

Speaker 2:

He was dealt in less than six months dealt cards that most people aren't dealt in their whole life, and, you know, through those adversities and then going through a divorce later on in life, with having a family and those, um, you know, through those adversities, um, and then going through a divorce later on in life, with with having a family and those challenges, um, you know, it's been, it's been pretty cool for me with Sean, cause we were we were very, very close, very good friends in high school, um, you know, involved in in sports together and spent a lot of time together.

Speaker 2:

And then, as life went on, you know, we were still obviously friends but we didn't stay in touch as much as we probably should have. But then, from doing that episode and having those conversations, now, you know, we're almost interacting daily and Sean's passion for his story that he held inside for so long is now coming out and Sean's got a lot of of grand visions of where this podcast, uh, where the be tempered movement, can go down the road, and I'm super excited for that because, um, it's cool for me because I have had these visions in my mind, um, but to have someone else from from outside, uh, who's not in my mind?

Speaker 1:

come in and kind of you know, reiterate those things.

Speaker 2:

Um, it's pretty cool. So you know part of what we uh, our ideas and and our goals moving forward. Uh will involve Sean and and his story and his enthusiasm because he is infectious. It's infectious, it is, um, marcus Colvin. You know Marcus was a college teammate of mine and his enthusiasm because he is, it's infectious. It's infectious, it is Marcus Colvin. Marcus was a college teammate of mine. He was who. I had no idea about his story and Coach Kelly's the one that said you need to get ahold of Marcus and have him come on here and tell your story. And, man, you talk about enthusiasm again, you know, when Marcus left here, I went home that night and I told my wife and my kids. I said if anybody wants to go to Chaminade, you can go, we'll make it happen.

Speaker 2:

I want you to be around people like Marcus. Marcus is just an inspiring man whose story growing up SWAT team breaks in the house when nobody's home except a bunch of kids watching Steve Urkel Yep TGIF. Yeah watching Steve Urkel and the SWAT team breaks in the house all these kids because of some things that were going on from his parents. And I mean just full of life, full of inspiration, full of resilience. Probably not, probably, he is the most positive guy I know. I mean just constant positivity flowing out. Is that a word?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, positivity, we just used it.

Speaker 2:

It probably came from Dixie.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You're rubbing off on me, that's how it works. Just a positive man, inspiring to all those that he comes in touch with, so it was awesome to have him on here. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

And later on we talk about our favorite quotes and he has one of my favorite quotes yeah, oh yeah. Next one I had was Jim Place. Just the culture that Jim built at Chaminade and through his character card is unforgettable. You know, that's something that I would love to see a lot of schools have is that character card. You know, a lot of times you have athletes that don't know what character means. That's right. Yeah, when you leave school you should know what character means and how to have a great character.

Speaker 3:

And his approach that I loved was you know, one of his players gets in a fight and he says tell me what's really going on instead of focusing on what happened. You know, don't ask him what happened, what's going on, why Jack led the way, and then you figure out what's going on with the home life he has to protect his sister. So then he comes to school and you just can't handle all that anger. Well, if you just ask what happened, well, I got in a fight, but you don't know the backstory, and that was just really powerful to me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's again it ties back into this podcast where everybody's got a story and uh, you know, I've said it numerous times, I think when my kids will come home and say such and such has acted out at school or done this and done that, and you know we sit down and we say, hey, well, let's look at what's going on in their life, you know, that's it's not. You know they may, this may have been the action, but what's the reason? And uh, and to look at those stories and and yeah, coach place he was. He was another one of those enthusiastic men that's been on here.

Speaker 2:

Um, the next one for me was my dad and um you know that one was pretty special because I lived it Right. I lived his nine lives, or eight live, or seven, however many he's been through. You know so many. And and um you know he's he's such a caring, giving man and always looking out for others.

Speaker 2:

Um and has just been through some very, very serious adversities in his life, where I mean the three times he should have not made it and he did. And um, you know, but he looks at every day as a new day. Um, he looks at everyone as he that he meets as a, as a new friend. Um, you know I'm truly honored to have been um, raised by him and by my mom and um you know it was just, it was just pretty cool to to be able to get that on video and to get that on, you know, out in the podcast world so that you know great grandkids and great, great grandkids can can listen back and to see how, how the Schmidt farms actually got started in 1976 and that it wasn't easy.

Speaker 3:

Right, and not, you know, not only the uh, the whole part about dying you. You exit that out of it. That sounds like you, right, you never every single person you meet you always have as a friend, you know. And so people get a backstory of how Dan Schmidt became Dan Schmidt. Yeah, next one I had is one of uh, I love motivational stories, right, and Greg Pettit, the story of the jersey right, yeah, they get these brand-new jerseys. Oh, they look great. Everybody in front of them gets the jersey, gets the jersey. And what happens when he gets up there? He gets handed an old, raggedy one and then he has to walk out. Was it family day? Right? Yeah, parents' night, parents' night. He's out there and his dad looks at him and says, well, looks like somebody's got to work harder. And, man, he said that that day. That's when I became a football player.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I love stories like that. And it's amazing because you know it could have easily went the other way. And we back up to Sean Rubush. I mean, his story is the exact opposite for his brother, right, you know? And it could have been the exact opposite for greg pettit, with something as simple as a football jersey, you know, being handed that ragged jersey, but to say, you know what, I'm not gonna let this define me, I'm not gonna quit, I'm gonna turn it around, I'm gonna use it as motivation to push myself to be the best football player that I can be. And he did, you know. Goes on to play college football, goes on to, um, you know, become a, a principal and a superintendent. Uh, has kids that play college football.

Speaker 3:

I mean, just a remarkable man and a remarkable story, and that what? You know how easy would have been for his parents to be like. You know what? Nope, let's walk off the field right now. You're done playing for this guy. You know, shout out to his parents yeah for sure.

Speaker 2:

Um, one of the last ones for me, uh, jason Coger and I know you weren't here for that. I wish you would have been because, um, that one for me was was the most impactful because, um, you know, I had heard Jason's story, um, you know, through the John O'Leary podcast and was just blown away by the story. But then, as I got to know Jason reaching out to him and and, um, you know, they decided to come up here and I get to spend four days with him and we kind of made the tour of youth groups and and went to the school and did an assembly and, um, just really got to know him as a man and his friend, jeff, um, it was like, wow, you know, this is, this is what life is all about. Is is taking a man who's lost both limbs, both of his arms and and having him share this story of if I can do it, anybody can do it. But the most powerful part of that story for me was where Jason was in the hospital and he asked for his dad and his dad comes in and has to tell him that they had to amputate your arms. And it's not how Jason reacted to it. To it.

Speaker 2:

I put myself in his dad's position because at the time his dad had had his own business and was in the middle of a lawsuit because a contract that he had signed with a company they weren't paying him, they were withholding money. And I think about that as a business owner and I think about the stress you know the financial stress of dealing with that in a business and having employees and trying to figure out. You know we need stress of dealing with that in a business and having employees and trying to figure out. You know we need to get this money to be paid so I can pay my employees and pay my bills. And then, all of a sudden, your son goes through this, what really should have been a major, major tragedy um loses his limbs you know, his both of his arms, and he's the one to stand there and has to tell him that. And he says you know I don't know how we're going to get through it, but we will.

Speaker 2:

Um, you know, as a father and as a business owner and as as trying to put yourself in that position, um, man, that really, really hit me. You know just an amazing um. You know perseverance, determination and, uh, you know and from that with Jason. He sent me a message yesterday it was Christmas and he says can't wait to get back up there and get our families together. So it's grown into a friendship and I'm excited to see where it goes, because Jason has an enthusiasm for life as well and, like Sean Rubush, he wants to do something more and um. So it's pretty exciting to uh to see that and to be a part of that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I can't wait to finally meet him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's a great dude. Yeah, last one I had was Kelly. Uh, kelly Daniel. So, um, you know, obviously growing up and seeing some for health struggles and being along with her and brad the whole time, um, you know, going through and seeing the early on in school. You know you see kelly going on the way on an ambulance and and then to hear her to tell her story and then just knowing the type person she is, that just constantly you know she could be on the way to the hospital and she's praising jesus.

Speaker 2:

You know god's giving me the strength and it's more people like that is what we need in the world and yeah, yeah, her enthusiasm for life I mean everybody that leaves an impact on me is it seems like they just have this enthusiasm for life. I mean, you know we're talking about a year in review, but we've we just interviewed a young man. Um, you know, that has an amazing story and he was just he's enthusiastic and and you look at somebody like that and when you think, man, I'm today sucks, or you know this happened or whatever, and and you look at a kid like that and you think, man, he's positive, he's working hard to do the best that he can do with the cards he's been dealt and it's just an, it's just an awesome, awesome thing to be a part of. I agree, so, um, so um, moving forward.

Speaker 2:

You know some ideas that we have. Um, you know, I don't know where this is going to go. You know, when we started off with this, we decided, hey, if we can just help one person, um, that's all we're looking for. But, man, when you get calls and texts and messages it seems like weekly, sometimes daily, um about how impactful a certain episode or a certain story was. It just makes you want more.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right. It makes you want more of of putting those stories out there to try to help people, because a lot of people are struggling in this world. You know, we just came out of the holidays, um, which for our families, is a wonderful time. Um. You know of giving thanks, um, you know, to our God and giving thanks for all the things that we have, but for a lot of people it's not right and um. So if we can share some of these stories in some way, shape or form, um, you know that that's that's kind of what we want to do. So we've got some amazing guests lined up, um, some amazing stories coming and um.

Speaker 2:

You know, I don't know where it's going to go. I don't know what it's going to evolve into. Um, I have some grand visions of um. You know where I think it'll go. I'm not quite ready to share that yet, um, but for right now, you know, we're going to keep moving forward with what we're doing and um, and keep sharing these stories. And what I would ask our listeners is if, if and a lot of you have, but if there's people out there, you know, that have a story that you have been impacted by or you've heard of um. Reach out to us. You know all of our information's on socials on the website be temperedcom. Um. Shoot us a message and say, hey, have you thought about reaching out to this person?

Speaker 2:

And um, even if you don't have their contact information, we should be able to find them one way or the other, and um and so um we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I just say like to encourage our listeners, and whether you're listening on Apple, spotify, amazon, youtube, wherever you're seeing us at, or maybe it's just a real you're seeing us at uh, if you can just like and share, uh, that helps us with the algorithm, I believe. And, um, it just helps maybe one more person to see it. I think that's the big thing and it's been pretty, like you said, getting those messages daily and weekly and stuff like that. I think it's fun. When I haven't seen somebody in a long time, they come up and they're like hey.

Speaker 3:

I found your podcast and I'm like, oh yeah. And they're like, yeah, you know I'm on episode six and it's like I was in the basement you know like maybe fast forward a couple of um, but no, but I mean, you know people are wanting to go back and listen and try. So if we can get that message out there and people can, you know, see it, hear it and just maybe it might help one more person you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, I'm going through our notes here, and one of the things we talked about was memorable moments. You want to talk about an episode? Oh yeah, that aired at the end of the year with Chris Roseberry.

Speaker 3:

So that one actually comes out. It would have been well, it'll be tomorrow when that one actually comes out.

Speaker 2:

Why we're confused is because we're like four episodes ahead. So Ben is always saying what episode number it is and it's always like a test for him, which is usually easy.

Speaker 3:

When it's the next episode, it's like oh well, here we go, number 36. This is easy. And so you got some in the bank. And then you got one that we didn't publish because Dan didn't want to publish it. That messed up the numbers to begin with.

Speaker 2:

And here we are. Yeah, we can't all be perfect.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so no, but yeah, the Chris Roseberry one, that was one memorable moment for me and that was just. You know, obviously now it's not a spoiler, but Chris lost his wife Kelly and his son during childbirth and that was one year before we talked to him, I believe. We looked at it I mean, it was just about a year anniversary, almost, I think and that just hit me really hard. And you know, I knew it before we went on the podcast. I read it in the notes and stuff like that. But to see the emotion on his face, uh, to hear him try to explain to um, his daughter, you know he said that she thinks, you know, I think she understands what happened and that he's not going to see mommy again and stuff like that, or she's not going to see mommy again. They have that picture just rolling through and, um, I'm just sitting there in my head and I'm like, okay, evie's the same age as this.

Speaker 3:

And then you got lisa when she was pregnant with jude, um, she kind of went through. I don't know how his wife died, but Lisa had help syndrome and that's where your body attacks your liver and the only reason that it was that she found that she had it was she had a migraine for like a week. Well, it's her first pregnancy. I was like Lisa, it's part of being pregnant, you know. So she went to the doctor and they're like, yeah, it's just part of it. You drink more water. She went back, just drink more water and then I remember we're sitting there and she's like ben, like I'm really like my head is throbbing. I just something's not right. I'm like, well, go back. And they told her you know, you can either pee in a jug, and you can do that over the weekend, or you can. We can do a blood test and when doing the blood test, find something out tomorrow. If you really think something's wrong, you know we don't think anything's wrong, but if you, you know, for to clear your mind at least, like, well, I want to do the blood test.

Speaker 3:

I think that was on thursday, maybe that friday morning I get like three calls right in a row from the, from the doctor's office. Finally I answer I'm like, hey, this is, you know, hello. And they're like this has been. I'm like, yes, it's been, and they're like we can't get a hold of your wife, but she needs to come to the hospital right now. And it's like, well, you know what's going on.

Speaker 3:

And with HELP syndrome it's you know, it's a severe pregnancy complication that affects your blood and liver. Well, at that time, her body was going against her liver and was shutting her liver down, so we had to go right to the hospital have a C-section. You know I mean. So just all that's running back through my mind, right Like none of our family knew about it. You know, at the time we're calling them on the way to the hospital, jude was in good Sam for a couple of days, not breathing, just on oxygen the whole entire time. And so when he's saying that, I'm just sitting there like man, like how close were we. Like thank God I married. Like Lisa, who's a stubborn woman, it was like no, something is wrong with me, doctor's like you were going to figure it out and um, it just really uh, hearing that just made me really feel grateful, you know that that Lisa and Jude are still here and uh, man, I just feel for him so bad yeah.

Speaker 2:

I, I and you know, Kim had a similar experience when she was pregnant with Mary, our, our, uh, fourth child and, um, she had, uh had what was called Vesa Previa, and so, basically, the sack was underneath Mary's head and so if she would have went into labor and the sack would have burst first, they would have had like two minutes to get Mary out and it would have been too late minutes to get Mary out and it would have been too late. And so, you know, with, with modern technology and um, all that, they were able to find that and they, um, as they were doing, um, what do you call it?

Speaker 2:

The like tests, like the x-ray when you're, when you're looking at the heartbeat.

Speaker 3:

I get it. Oh uh, sonogram monogram telegram.

Speaker 2:

Oh well, we sound like idiots when they show you the baby, what the heck's it called?

Speaker 3:

oh, when they actually show you the baby.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about I just went from bad to worse, but anyway she was in for an ultrasound, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, kevin, let it that out. Yeah, he doesn't have, that's why he's the executive producer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you, kevin, we'll edit that out. Yeah, he doesn't have any kids, but he knows the ultrasound. We've got eight between us.

Speaker 3:

I'm paramedic. That's true. That's right. Yeah, we still have education and a medical background.

Speaker 2:

Eight kids between us and we don't know the ultrasound and I'm not 100 on the kids thing. But Kim has an ultrasound done and, um, you know, they find out she's got vasoprevia, which is very rare. So she calls me. I remember I was driving, we have three, you know three other little kids at the time and uh, she said, hey, I've got vasoprevia. I'm like I can't even say ultrasound.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

What's vasoprevia? And she said well, they want me to go into the hospital today and I'm going to be in there until Mary is born. And she had about 30 days to go before that. I was thinking I'm running a business. We got three little kids, two of which were still in diapers, uh, how's this going to work? And um, so I remember where I was at when she called me and, and she spent 29 days in the hospital and Mary was born and everything went good.

Speaker 2:

They, they took her C-section and, um, we call her miracle Mary because 10, 15 years prior to that she wouldn't have made it. It would. It all would have happened so quickly that it would have been highly unlikely that she wouldn't have made it. So I related to Chris's story as well and, um, you know just, uh, you know just complete heartbreak when, when you read that, you know, when I read that in his bio, and then to watch him tell that, because, um, you know, that's tough, that's, that's a tough thing, but he's, he's doing a good job and he's a good man. So that was a very powerful story for sure.

Speaker 3:

Just one of those things where you know you're lucky, I'm lucky, we're blessed that we found our best friends and that's who we married. That's right, like I feel. If Lisa wasn't here I'd be in trouble. Like a lot of the stupid things in life.

Speaker 2:

She knows, you know, and there's a lot of things that she and so I, just that's where you know and then you talk about the baby and it's just a whole nother level too, and that just breaks your heart. Yeah, yeah, we had some pretty inspiring quotes that came out of some of these podcasts. Um, you know you've got one on here from from Sean Rubush. It says everything in your life is your responsibility. If you're not happy where you're at, it's on you period. You can't blame anybody else.

Speaker 2:

That's such a good one man, that's such a good one so good and so powerful, and the way that Sean said it with his emotion. Um, you know he's right. You know if you don't like the job you're in, that's on you, man. You know there, there's plenty of other jobs out there or career paths. You can go on. Uh, if you don't like, you know the friends that you have find some new friends you know, change your life and make it for the better, and that was a powerful one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then Marcus had the mic drop of a lot of people complain because God put thorns on roses, while other people praise him for putting roses among thorns. Yeah, how do you look at life? That's right.

Speaker 2:

That's right, yeah, I mean plain and simple.

Speaker 3:

You know, car gets flat tire. Well, are you grateful you have that car with an engine and all the other things that come with that? You know $20,000 car, or are you going to look at that? You have a $135 tire to replace.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's all in how you look at it. No-transcript, you know, or we're trying to do the same thing. That he's doing is just getting these stories out there to help inspire people and uh, so I was super grateful that he came on the podcast and, um, you know, we got a lot of exciting things coming up. Um, again, appreciate everybody listening. You know we had over, uh, 50,000 views, um, on YouTube, and then you can add in all the stuff from Instagram and Facebook and all those numbers. You know my kids look at that and they're like that well, such and such gets 50,000 views on one reel.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, yeah, but you know what? I'm just a little. We're just little farm kids from from the midwest and we're trying to to share stories of inspiration.

Speaker 3:

Um, so pretty proud of that that's exactly what jude's response was the other day. We're on youtube. He's like, well, how many? I mean, how many followers or views do you even have like 20? And I'm like, yeah, at that time it was like try, 37 000 views. Okay, jude, you're like the way that you talk about nate, how he's starting to get that teenage, or while he is like jude's starting to get there and I'm like, no, no, get ready, it's coming, goodness gracious so, yeah, we appreciate everybody.

Speaker 2:

We look forward to what's to come. Um, you know again, just please continue to support us because we need that to keep this thing growing. Also, something exciting is I just got all the gear completed and we've got a link on the website. So if you go to betemperedcom and you click on the swag link up top, that'll direct you to our store. There's some pretty cool shirts and hats and sweatshirts on there that that are for purchase and, and you know, all that money's going to go to help us to uh, to continue to put this podcast on, because it's not free. Kevin is not free, um and uh, but we we certainly appreciate the work and we appreciate the support and uh and all those good things. So at the end of the day, we'll keep this thing rolling. We appreciate you. Go out and be tempered.

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