[16] Wealth in Love: Reclaiming Pleasure, Intimacy, and Truth with Dr. Chelsea Page

In this juicy, expansive episode, Grace sits down with Dr. Chelsea Page, a sex and relationship therapist, international intimacy coach, and founder of the Well Fcked Wives movement, for a raw and revolutionary conversation about what it really means to live a well-loved and well-fcked life.

From co-founding a luxury pleasure boutique with her mom to launching Pussy Church (yes, really!), Chelsea shares how she helps women strip back the shame, reconnect with their desires, and build soulful relationships with themselves and others. They talk about the magnetism of feminine energy, redefining wealth beyond money, and the beauty of choosing simplicity over chaos.

Whether you're a busy entrepreneur, navigating partnership, or craving more pleasure and presence in your life, this episode will move you to melt into your truth and give yourself grace through every delicious phase.

Here are some key takeaways:

• Simplicity is luxury. The more we declutter, the more space we create for pleasure, ease, and aligned success.
• Wealth isn’t just about money—true abundance is being wealthy in love, in your body, and in your relationships.
• Your truth is an aphrodisiac. When you're in full expression, the right people, partners, and clients are drawn to you.
• Pussy Church is a sanctuary where pleasure is the prayer. It’s time to reclaim your body and your spiritual power.
• Personal responsibility is the foundation of intimacy and transformation. You can’t shift the reflection without shifting your stance.
• You don’t have to start bold. Find your “Goldilocks edge” and grow from where it feels safe, then stretch.
• Embodiment means finding pleasure in the smallest moments—from tea to touch to deep conversation.
• Surround yourself with people who reflect your power, not your doubts. Your community shapes your capacity.
• Giving yourself grace means knowing you’re safe to rest, float, and receive especially when life is finally good.

Dr. Chelsea Page is a Sex & Relationship Therapist and international Intimacy Coach helping women become the well loved & Well F*cked Wife™ they desire to be. As the sexy host of the Well F*cked Wife™ podcast and creator of the Well F*cked Wives Club, as well as in her private coaching and luxurious retreats, she guides women to embrace intimacy, pleasure, and empowerment in their marriages. Dr. Chelsea is your go-to for having luxurious love, s*x like diamonds, and living naked and free one delicious moment at a time. 

Connect with Chelsea
Instagram: @drchelseapage
Facebook: @DrChelseaPageXO

Give Yourself Grace is hosted by Grace Perry, a content creator and coach, and is designed to empower you to embrace your journey through every phase of life. The podcast offers entertainment, guidance, and practical tools for your personal transformation.

Connect with Grace
Instagram: @giveyourselfgracepod , @gperryproductions
Website: graceperryproductions.com

Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:00.142)
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Welcome to Give Yourself Grace. I'm your host, Grace Perry, and I am so thrilled you're here. As a content creator and coach, I've built a six-figure business to help women step into their power and share their stories with the world. My mission is to empower you to embrace your unique journey and every season this life has to offer. If you crave entertainment, guidance, and tools to transform your reality, you have come to the right place. So come with me on this adventure and truly give yourself the grace that you deserve.

Let's dive into the show.

Speaker 2 (00:38.19)
Gingering it up.

We're ginger powered today. my God, I'm obsessed. Welcome back to Give Yourself Grace. I'm here with Dr. Chelsea Page.

who is a sex and relationship therapist and international intimacy coach, helping women become the well-loved and well-fucked wife that they desire to be. And as the sexy host of the Well Fucked Wives podcast and creator of the Well Fucked Wives Club, as well as in her private coaching and luxurious retreats, she guides women to embrace intimacy, pleasure and empowerment in their marriages and in their lives.

Dr. Chelsea is your go-to for having luxurious love, sex life like diamonds, and living naked and free one delicious moment at a time. Welcome to the podcast, Dr. Chelsea. Thank you. my God, I love seeing Dr. Chelsea too. It just like makes me smile instantly because this woman is powerful. I am just so honored to not only be in community with you, but to sit with you here today and talk about just the

of what you create and what you bring and just the impact that you're making in the lives of women all across the world. Chelsea is one of the many reasons why I say very funky adjectives now. I have stolen Chelsea's vocabulary just from being in a mastermind here in Denver and I just love the way that you literally speak. literally she says things like delicious and sexy and she has, you just have play like just.

Speaker 1 (02:19.262)
and I'm constantly learning from you. So I'm just so grateful and happy that you're here with us today.

Love it. I like this huge smile on my face.

We're grinning hard. Yum. So I just really want to talk right away about your business journey because just I think the audience also would love to know like how did you become this badass co- Right? Like how did it bring us along for the ride a little bit?

Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (02:48.066)
my goodness. Well, obviously I could probably talk for days about it, but you know, I started with this idea and desire. Even when I was like a kiddo, was like the kid who was sharing with everybody. I'm like, you've seen this, like, where do babies come from book and trying to make sure like everybody was just understanding about their bodies and.

It progressed into my undergrad in college. I had a journalism degree and I took a class that was on the social construction of human sexuality, tongue twister. Very cool. And I was like, how the fuck do I make this a job? Like, how do you work with people's, like, their bodies, but in a way that's like deep inside and with their sexuality, with their sensuality? And so I went on a whole deep dive into

How do you become either a sex therapist or a sex educator? And I went down the route of sex therapist. fast forward to 2020 when all we know that happened is my whole therapy practice collapsed, like basically overnight because even though everyone needed therapy during COVID, it was one of the first things, cause I was private pay to just go off of people's income.

And so luckily my intuition a year previously was like, you need to start building stuff online. And so I was building things online and I had gotten one coaching client during that time, like a little mini, little mini gal. And then I just, was basically forced to dive into the coaching worlds in 2020 and I just dove the fuck in, made a lot of mistakes, made a lot of progress and.

Right now I do therapy and coaching and I fucking love it and it's amazing So I just yeah, I keep growing and learning and the biggest thing right now is I'm really amazing at what I do but I had a lot of learning curve around business and marketing and Money management and all that stuff. So it's been an adventure. Yes as everyone knows with business. It's an adventure

Speaker 1 (04:58.05)
Yes, it's so true. To get to where you are, there's so many journeys and paths that you have to go down. And mindset techniques, like really learning how to not only think differently, but act differently to be successful in business. And really what you bring to the table is unlike anything I've come across. Like really, you are so unique and so passionate. And like really I want to dive into like what does that mean to be like an intimacy

and a sex therapist, A relationships coach. There's just so many things encompassing in that. tell me a little bit about that.

Well, just even in general, like what it's like, it's such a privilege and it's so sacred. And so it's such an honor to, it's such an honor to be connected and helping not, I help with women and couples. have worked with men as well. And, but primarily right now in my coaching business, it's mostly women and to just be that space that's like, no.

you get to have your desires. No, you get to access your pleasure. No, you get to be in your femininity and you get to be a sexual woman. all of this, ooh, and it gives me chills because just having that permission to...

be who you are meant to be and the naked truth of who you are. because we're so bombarded with so much shit of who we should be, how we're supposed to be, how we're supposed to do relationship, how we're supposed to, all the shoulds and the have to's. And like, that's part of, that's why I have the tattoo on my wrist that says naked is it's all about just getting naked. So I help women get naked and I love it emotionally, energetically, physically, it's just be.

Speaker 2 (06:50.722)
Like without all the conditioning, like fuck all the conditioning. Yes. So it's, it's just an honor and a privilege. And sometimes I'm like, is this actually valuable?

Yes. Immediate yes for all the answers. yes!

And it's like, no, that's the part of me that's like, no, you shouldn't be doing this. And it's like, no, yep, I should. We get to be sexy, we get to be sensual, we get to be so fucking rich. And as I like to say, healthy, wealthy, well-loved and well-fucked.

Yes! Louder for the women in the back. my god, I have goosebumps because for so long that has been shameful. I think what you're, the work that you are doing and helping women just in general like understand and be empowered by being naked is something that is so triggering for people because of this conditioning.

Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:49.302)
And I really just, I think it stems into all elements of our lives when we are uncomfortable being in our bodies with within our sexuality, within our pleasure and like that delicious truth, we are unable to fully step into our power and not only as entrepreneurs, but as just women in general in our relationships and

I know this came really personally for you within your relationship. And I just love how you've blended your experience, your education, because you are well-fucked and well-educated. But you know, like you bring so much to the table as a coach. And I just think it's amazing that you've been able to accomplish so much in such, like so quickly that I've known you too. I feel like you.

very much so when you get an idea, you take action within it. And it's amazing and inspiring for me because you're in such a, not, I hate to say triggering, but like you're in a field that a lot of people feel a lot of different ways about it. And for women, when they're in their power and, you know, media and our culture, in many ways we shame women when they're fully expressed.

And how do you navigate as a business owner being in this sort of different space? And I think a lot of listeners listening are like, my God, like I would love to share things that are important to me that might be a little different, a little, you know, maybe a little edgy and like your delicious.

edge.

Speaker 1 (09:28.332)
Chelsea, like you always are pushing the edge and I just really admire that. So if you have any advice around that for our listeners, think they'd love to hear it.

Yes, well, it's something that I love how you said that, just the delicious edge. And this is one of the things that I always find that like Goldilocks spot. And when what I just feel that as is you're not pushing yourself so far that you completely fuck up your nervous system because then our bodies are going like, ain't doing that again. Like that is not safe. But then we don't want to take moves in our life and our business that are so small that it's like.

Well, like nothing's really happening. And so we find that Goldilocks spot where it is edgy and it is stretchy, but not so much that we are so dysregulated. And I keep doing that over and over and over and over again. And an example that comes to my mind is years ago, I had a Facebook group and I opened the Facebook group because I wanted a safer space where I could more openly express myself.

Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:33.736)
and I wasn't yet ready to share on things like my main Facebook or Instagram profile or not like I am now where I'm like sharing my sex life on my podcast.

Which is so badass.

It's so, and it's like, I reached that place because I would find the safe places to express myself. And then I kept showing up there and I kept finding that delicious edge until, like for the example with that Facebook group, then I started to feel like the Facebook group was actually no longer a safe container. It was safe, but it was now becoming suppressive because I could feel a part of me want to actually express outside of it.

So I could feel like, I'm ready for more. I'm ready to be more expressed. And, you know, finding those places and allowing yourself to practice. Like, like when I hit send on a picture where I am literally naked and sharing that, it's like, holy shit. But I always come back to my why. Why am I sharing this? Why am I sharing this vulnerable story? Why am I sharing this vulnerable picture? Why am I sharing this?

vulnerable podcasts or this email, like, why am I sharing this? And it all goes back to, I want to give women permission. And I'm leading that movement of being naked and being free. And I get to be more intimate with myself in the process and show other women how to do that. So it's one Goldilocks step at a time.

Speaker 1 (12:07.126)
that so much. That's literally like, I usually say like the consistency bucket of like, how do you make deposits to feel more confident? And I think a lot of people don't.

take that first step bec of what people might think might think what they're, or x whatever it is on the o might think or talk about you make this change and by just making that first love that you started in was an intimate space and like you could really exp

world. And even to this day, like we were just sharing, still get, we still, I mean even me, I had a comment on my YouTube channel was like, you should not do this.

are, we're already too far gone. We're doing it. We are doing it. But you still, even when you're at the height of success, are going to have people who are not for you. Yes. Especially when it comes to talking about these things that people don't talk about, like literally pussy pleasure and sex and like just literally divine expression. It's just not talked about. Nope.

Thank

Speaker 2 (13:31.118)
And I, what is that TV show that it just came out and she does a podcast with her sister and it's like a sex podcast. It's on Netflix. It's like not, not what you think. We'll remember. I'm sure someone who's listening knows exactly what it is. But anyways, she does like a really open podcast and I'm like, my God, this is totally me.

And it's like, well, because nobody talks about this stuff and I want to normalize it and put it out there and empower women. And you're going to get pushback. Even recently, when I opened up Pussy Church and my like a free weekly just divine sanctuary for our pleasure. And my husband at first, he's like, don't you think you're going to get some pushback on that? And I was like, yeah. And I'm at this point where I'm like, good, because I want.

I want women to feel things and I want men to feel things. want it to be where I am taking a stand in a place where it's like, no, don't talk about that. And I was like, no, we're fucking talking about it. Because what we talk about goes into the light and what goes into the light is no longer shameful. And what goes into the light, we can actually alchemize that and create with it and actually allow it to be.

new and bigger and better. And so if we're hiding these things, like we can't even create with it. And that is a travesty. And so one of the things like the pushback that can happen, you know, even what I was saying and like take those vulnerable steps and you know, the consistency bucket is I went from like part of my story is like mega fucking people pleaser. Like I didn't even know who I was, what my voice was, what I wanted. Like, like

Chelsea, like you are just here to make other people happy because if you make them happy, they won't be mad at you. And if they're not mad at you, they won't leave you. And if they don't leave you, then you won't feel abandoned and like left all by yourself, did I? So survival strategy. so each step I do is actually loosing the grip of my survival strategy and not being the people pleaser. And instead being the well fucked wife, that's like, no, I am a sexual woman. No, I am a powerful woman. And I'm going to talk about these things.

Speaker 2 (15:51.338)
And if people aren't ready to hear the conversation, that's okay. But we're gonna have the conversation and they can come back around when they're ready. If they want to, but.

like drop moment. Yes. Your people will find you and that's what I've learned along the way. Like the conversation is always worth having and if that person isn't willing to have that conversation, they don't have to be in that energy, which is the most freeing thing ever. It's like no longer are we those same people, pleasers. I resonate so much with that. Like I was that person for so long and it's like you shed. It's like an onion. You shed those layers over time.

You strip down and you get naked. It is so badass. And I just really, really love that you literally help people do that. And so I want to go back to Pussy Church because this is just such a beautiful offering. So really describes the audience. And we'll put this in the show notes too. If you do want to join, what does pussy like, what is Pussy Church? I just love saying it.

You stripped down

Speaker 2 (16:53.803)
I know. Although I got a lot of like pushback of like putting those two words together, pussy and church. And I was like, yes, because what has been so

Thank you.

You're fine. So what has been so when we think about like shame is shame has been so wrapped up in like religion and in church, like for probably the biggest times anyone has ever come into working with me. The biggest ones that are wrapped in shame has often been around religion. And it's like, no, don't be sexual. No, don't have sex. No, don't have pleasure. Like, no, like, and those are, you know, some of the extreme examples of that. But it's like, well, wait a second.

No, our sexuality is so fucking sacred. And it is literally like if I am, if I am God in human form, like I am like my body is created from God. Like, why wouldn't my pussy, my pleasure, my power, all these things also be so divine and sacred? And it's something that has been so separated from, you think of like spirituality, church, religion, and then our pleasure, our power and our sexuality. It's like sex cannot be sacred.

Sex cannot be like over here. And I'm like, no, no, let's marry the two together and be with Pussy Church. And it's Pussy Church where pleasure is the prayer. Pussy Church where pleasure is the prayer. Where we worship our bodies as the temple that we are and allow ourselves to open and

Speaker 2 (18:30.156)
when we do that as women and we access that, and it's not pleasure just in the sexual sense, it's literally living, one of the phrases I love to use is as our life as a pocket of pleasure. It's just like literally moving in this pleasure and it's the simplicities and I know so many of us have heard this cognitively, but it's living it and embodiment of.

Like the pleasure of the tea that you're holding in your cup, like the pleasure when I drink my seltzer water and the bubbles hit my tongue and the pleasure of a really delicious conversation like this and allowing it to really penetrate into your body because, and that's just the essence of walking through with that with Pussy Church. just opens up to all my other, you know, the world that I have is

just getting in your fucking body. Yes. Because that's where the magic is. But we freeze ourself out. We exit out of our body. And then one of the terms I use is then we're living with a frozen feminine and trying to live a delicious life doesn't work. We need to melt that shit and allow ourselves to flow. And so anyways, that's all housed in Pussy Church. And it also is an invitation for

just my spiritual side to come through and being able to express that part of me and bring not just my knowledge, but my embodied experience, but also my channeled truth that I can bring through, which is really fucking powerful. And it actually sometimes scares the shit out of me. So, yes, I am creating a safe space like Pussy Church, just like I did with the Facebook group so that I can express this part of me until it's ready to come out front and center.

amazing. That right there. And I think every single person listening, you can find ways to do that and to honor yourself and to share your story and make an impact even in communities that you create. They don't have, it doesn't have to be this

Speaker 1 (20:33.464)
huge public display right off the bat until you're ready to start sharing on a public front. And you know, maybe you don't even have to start, but it's bringing people, like-minded people together. And I think community building is just everything when it comes to really stepping into your power and also growing a business that you love.

my God, yes. Like this is because there are so many conversations happening in the world that are very much in lack and pain and struggle in like just old ways of beliefs and thinking and shame and all of these pieces. It's when we are held in a container, no matter how big or small, if it's like you and one other person, me or even if it's you yourself and you to start like you and your journal, it's

Allow yourself to be in a container where you are being held in the truths of the world. And there's multiple truths. But I don't know about you, but I am aligning myself to the truth of abundance, the truth of success, the truth of I don't have to fucking struggle to actually have what I want. I don't need to sacrifice to have what I want. Like, yes, I need to work, of course, but not to the place where I cease to exist because I'm not people pleasing myself to.

like my dreams, it doesn't work that way. So be in that container that really supports you, because your business and you are gonna love that.

Yes, so powerful. And I love you talked about abundance because I do want to switch into really, how do you define wealth beyond money? Like, of course, money, we love money, money, But how Yeah, talk to me about especially in this journey of

Speaker 1 (22:21.118)
really helping people come together and recognize not only their pleasure, but their true love and relationships within themselves and with others. Like how do you define wealth, right? At this current point.

Yes, well, yes, of course, in money ways. But one of the things that I say often to my clients is I want them to be wealthy in love. being wealthy in love, and even if we think like of a bank account, is so many of us can be in like the deficit. We're in the red, we're in debt. And that's when like we're in survival mode. We're not open, we're not in our truth, and we're not wealthy in love at all.

And when we do this work, it's we want to feel so abundant in love. And so wealth is doing the things to really allow love into yourself and allow yourself to be loved by your partner. Allow yourself to be loved by your community and loved by just everything around you. And I also see money as a form of love as well. There's a term and.

like I'm going to need to do course on this in the future. It's been marinating for like a year and a half. But just the term love money and say like marrying words together. So love money together and it's allowing yourself to feel the wealth of just more, the wealth of

Speaker 2 (23:51.95)
It's like the wealth of the truth of who you are and accessing more and more of that. And then everything else, of course, is a reflection of that. But also another piece is feeling wealthy in your body too. And that's something I've been even deepening more inside of myself is like, how am I really investing in my body? And what is the ROI that I'm getting? what is the, am I in debt and not, and really being

know, wealth is being into that divine frequency of truth. And when you are there, then you're gonna feel the wealth of everything, the abundance of right money, pleasure, love, of joy, of happiness. And yes, there's gonna be pain and yes, there's gonna be struggle, but we want to be able to access all the deliciousness. And that's part of being human. And I feel like a wealth in...

relationships, again, not just in like partnership, but in community and friendship, you know, business side of things and just feeling the deliciousness of that is it's everything. And I feel like that's the power that we can hold and not just focus on money because trust me.

been there, done that, focused on the money and I do not want the t-shirt because very ego driven and like totally fucked up some of my marriage stuff and that was a whole, that's a whole story.

Exactly, like having that.

Speaker 1 (25:30.67)
shifting your mindset around money flowing to you in abundance and as a form of love is such a beautiful thing. think when you are focused on being more wealthy in love, the money just naturally flows too, especially if you're aligning all of your actions to meet those goals. And I think for me, like there, I just love the conversation around abundance, especially when it comes

to relationships and you have seen so many different dynamics. One of the things we first talked about was actually the dynamic of women, there's a higher percentage, and correct me if I'm wrong, of women having higher sex drives than men in relationships.

And I'm pretty sure it was like a higher percentage, even maybe close in that way. But like I resonated with that too. Like I've had relationships where my sex drive has been higher. And when it comes to that wealth and love, it's not that, you you're not, you don't have a lot of love in those relationships. There's so much love there, but I think life can get in the way and just, you know, things happen, right? And so.

I guess my next question to you in that sort of discussion of abundance and love is, you know, what have you noticed in relationships? What are some things like you've dealt with so many, right, different types of clients and couples and what are some things that you want to share, just takeaways or even advice to people that are in healthy, you know, loving relationships, but you know, sometimes struggle with sex or sometimes struggle with intimacy.

Like what would you tell our listeners when it comes to an abundance in love?

Speaker 2 (27:19.63)
Well, because it's, can hit an edge on anything that we are having, although edging can be a very fun thing. But sometimes we keep ourselves on the edge all the time and not actually allow ourselves to have the climactic experience of life. yes, we want to be loved. And this is where I was at in my own relationship. like, oh my God, I fucking love my husband. Like our love, I've loved all the like.

there's always more, but so much love in like, so amazing. then except the sex life was not sex life-ing. And I'm like, I want more sex and he's not like what gives and it was such a huge invitation. So this is where I just want to invite, whosoever's listening is really go beneath the surface, whether you are the lower desire partner or the higher desire partner is why are you either chasing sex

or why are you resisting it? And get really curious about what's underneath because what I found inside of myself is I was seeking sex with my husband. It was a repeat pattern that I did even way back in the day of if a man has sex with me, that means he loves me. And if he loves me, he's not gonna leave me. And if he doesn't leave me, then I'm not gonna feel the abandonment and then et cetera, et cetera, right? That old story again, which we've already talked about, but sex was playing that out.

And it also was a big mind fuck because there's a lot of shame that was there because I'm like, okay, apparently as you'll hear growing up that men just want sex all the time. So why is my man not wanna have sex with me? Is there something wrong with me? Am I not attractive enough? Do I need to wear like sexy lingerie? I need to do all these things? But then if we think about that from a masculine and feminine dynamic, then I was not in my feminine. And so I was...

Thanks.

Speaker 2 (29:13.326)
doing and doing and doing and not actually being into that receptive place. And so the piece of this, when we bring this back to abundance is women cut off their sexual self, whether they're wanting more of it, which is kind of a sneaky way of like, oh, but I'm a sexual person. It's like, but you're actually in the chase, which is not allowing you to have more of that sex and pleasure. So there's a part of you that freaks the fuck out about being met more in your pleasure.

Mmm.

Same thing with someone who's cutting off their pleasure and like, I don't have a sex drive. It's like, well, you're cutting yourself off to pleasure because you're afraid to be met there. And so the work is going into allowing yourself to feel an abundance of pleasure and starting with yourself and inviting your partner into that. Because I'll say this one last thing on this is after I like switch this dynamic and then now my husband pursues me and there's still some we're calibrating in it, but

when my husband was finally coming toward me and penetrating me energetically, emotionally, physically, then I'm like, God, this is vulnerable. And it's like, this is what I've been wanting but also scared as fuck about having because am I allowed? Are we allowed to be abundant in all the things? Yes. Yes. Yes.

But it's so true. We hold ourself back, I think even subconsciously, like we say we want to be subconscious and that just like primate nature of the chase, but also between masculine and feminine energies. And I actually did a whole podcast episode about it, like how I've been able to also tap into mine and

Speaker 2 (30:45.407)
It's subconscious.

Speaker 1 (31:02.036)
my feminine energy, I realized I was constantly nagging. Like I was like becoming a mother to my boyfriend when I was. So not sexy. Like I, you know, and this was when we first moved in together. And it's funny because like I like to think I'm a type A person, but I've been saying recently I'm actually like a B plus. And I'm not. Yeah. And it's funny because my sister, actually, she was the one who kind of called it out. She was like, Grace, look at your car. Like.

So not sex.

Speaker 1 (31:30.946)
look inside your car. This is not type A behavior. And I was like, you're right, because I use my car as like a storage unit. She's like, I know. She's like, you're type B plus. So I'm officially type B plus. But when I say that is like, I like to think I'm a really clean person, but I'm often just as messy. So I was kind of being in this like hypocritical, the classic dynamic of you live together and you know, he's not doing the dishes or the laundry, like whatever it was. And I like.

What?

Speaker 1 (31:58.758)
subconsciously thought that I wanted more intimacy and more pleasure. But I was like literally holding back and also really in my masculine energy of like, do this, do that versus just the presence and the being and the embodiment of being a woman and, you know, communicating in a different way. And so once I started to shift the dynamic of communication, it's been amazing. Like I let go of that

The

Speaker 1 (32:27.246)
part of myself in many ways. And now it's like when things happen, I'm like, I can do this. you know, you know, there's so much going on in our lives. Like I have less resentment and more just like pure divine acceptance and love. Like I see it from a form of love. And I think when you start looking at your intimacy and when you start talking about sex and having these conversations, it's so much more than sex. it is so much more.

So much more it's just it's not sound cliche It's the tip of the iceberg like when I've like especially when I've worked with couples It's like my gosh the things that they can bring in to argue about whether it's the money the sex the kids or the fucking ketchup bottle There's a couple ones I was like what the ketchup bottle in the fridge and it's like it's not about the ketchup bottle It's not about the underwear on the floor. It's not about the sex. It's what it means and This is where it can be like this

I had a coach once that explained it this way and I really loved it is if you're standing in front of a mirror and you're wanting the reflection to change, but you're not moving differently yourself, you're just trying to get the reflection to change. And you're like, why does this look this way? Why is this reflection looking this way? It should be this way. It should be changing. And like, why is this happening? It's like, well, you got to change how you're dancing in front of the mirror to actually get a different reflection. And so the sex,

The ketchup bottle, the money, whatever is just the thing in the mirror. So you can't look in the mirror. You've got to look at the source, which is ourself. And what so many women, where they come back to is they are not wealthy in their own self-worth and they don't feel deserving to have.

So powerful.

Speaker 2 (34:09.646)
whether it's the money or the man or the pleasure or all those things all at once because that's not possible because I didn't work hard enough for it. I didn't prove myself for it. Like who am I to have this much wealth and abundance in my life? And it's like who the fuck are you not to have all of that? Like what do you need to be? Like some sort of like a superhuman?

Speaker 2 (34:33.55)
It's like sometimes in my mind this is a mini tangent but it goes with this is like sometimes I think of like say like celebrities or like Beyonce or like Oprah or whatever I'm like

they're just people. And it's like, well, how come they get to be wealthy in this way? How come they get to have all this fame? Well, how come they get to have this? Or you might see other, you know, if you look at other business owners and you're like, well, how come she has all this money? my God, I used to do that. And my ego's like, well, I know my shit. I've had all this education. I have a fucking doctorate for goodness sake. And I know like all these different things. I've been in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of different people's relationships in life. It's like, how come I...

making as much money as that. how come, well, God forbid, I help people with their sex life, but mine was shit. Talk about imposter syndrome. So there's a lot to untangle in that,

I loved everything you just said, but the mirror especially too. There is a personal responsibility that you have to take if you want to have true love, true intimacy, true abundance.

Can we get an amen on that?

Speaker 1 (35:45.614)
It's like.

Damn it! Like when you're pointing, and we know this, when you're pointing the finger at these other things, it's because you're avoiding that personal responsibility.

And I think when and that's really to me what divine feminine energy can be it's a personal responsibility and to grab it to take it to embody it and When you are embodied that just flows naturally and like it's communication too for sure like really being able to communicate how you're feeling and what you look for and what you need but

Yeah, it's like, it's just, you're almost like it's a magnetism in my opinion. Like when I think of divine feminine energy, it's like this beautiful rose. It's just like magnetic and smells amazing. And you're just magnetizing to people and to the relationships that you have.

Do you want to know why you're magnetizing? Why? Because you're in your truth and your truth is such an aphrodisiac to everything around you. It's like yum, more please.

Speaker 1 (36:45.866)
Yes, I love that so much. And so there's so many takeaways from what you said to what is like one thing, like, of course, taking responsibility. But like, what have you found in your life that has just truly allowed you to step into your power? You've mentioned a lot of things, but if it was like one really important

just yeah, chair it. I mean, you've shared so many things about your own personal responsibility, helping like navigate your relationships and really, there's just so much. But this is what you do on a weekly if not daily basis for everyone else. But like what is one thing that's really helped you?

helped me be in more of my power. Yes. Yeah, I'm like sifting through like the archives. I think the thing that comes to mind, I know we hit on it a little bit, but surrounding myself and being so particular about who I surround myself with and one of the, it's gonna bring tears to my eyes.

One of the key people, like of course I love my husband, he's amazing, but my mom, she has been such a beautiful support in this whole transformation. And we even have a business together now and like just being in those places where people are reflecting your power right back to you and challenging you and.

like allowing me to grow, like that's who I surround myself with. Like I've, like I've, I'm very ferocious with who is in my world. And that even just, even on a client level, I've, one of my clients told me once, she's like, I really love and I feel so safe when you tell me that you are very particular about who you have in your world. Because like it just means like, it has her feel valuable, but also it just means that I am not just,

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trying to get her money. And it's like, no, like I care so much about your transformation and I care so much about my transformation and my power that whether it's, you know, my friends, my family, my clients is the people in my community. Like my block list is long on my social media life before I was like, oh no, should I? I'm like, no, block, block, block. Like I don't fucking deal with that shit anymore. So that has been so transformational in just that support.

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of who I am and it's wonderful because also it means that I just keep like rising and getting more powerful and I'm like shit.

Watch out. That was so beautiful. I love that so much and shout out to your mom because she must be one heck of a lady.

She is so amazing and I even talked to her this morning before coming here. yeah, she's like one of my best friends. had a couple of years ago, we had a falling out and this is one of the things where she is like, she's like eons above in like her growth and evolution and spiritual side of things. like, it was almost kind of like we were in this old dynamic and

Speaker 2 (40:07.084)
without saying it, she's like, Chelsea, clean up your shit. Like I was in this old like child dynamic thing and then I finally like cleared it out and we are now meeting on this like adult adult level and it's like so fantastic. So amazing and yeah. And then then yeah, we opened our online business a couple, was it like a couple months ago? Sex Like Diamonds.

Yes, I love that so much. So tell me about your business with your mom.

Oh my gosh, it's so exciting. It just launched. I've got to remember the exact date, but it's like not even two months ago and it's called. thank you. We're so excited and it's called Sex Like Diamonds and it's an online pleasure boutique. And so we've got these luxury sex toys and some lingerie and it's so exciting. And it's also very surreal. like, I like.

co-founded an online pleasure boutique with my mom. Like, who does that?

It's just freaking next level amazing. my God. And so people can literally visit the site. How do they see this site? Because we're going to talk about all the ways to support you, but this one in particular, like, this just launched, baby. We need you guys. there. So what's it called? And how they find you? Sex Like Diamond.

Speaker 2 (41:25.461)
Sexlikediamonds.com. Yes, share, tell all your friends. Yeah, and it's just, we're adding new items as they keep coming through and it's just kicking off and we haven't gotten our first sale yet, but it's so cute. My mom the other day, she's like, oh, like I've got kind of bummed that we haven't got our first sale. like, oh no, we're gonna get, like, are you kidding me? We need to promote this. Yes.

Eat shit out of this. Yes. Happening. Sexlikediamonds.com. Yes. Supporting local entrepreneurs and mother and daughter duo, which is freaking epic. I'm going to make my, I want to be your first order. I'm literally going to, after we get off this call, I'm going to be your first order. I'm dead serious. Do it. I would love to. I love that so much. Okay. So another piece of this amazing puzzle. I, I think all that you have done, we've talked a lot about abundance today.

But recently, not necessarily recently, but you've shared, especially in our mastermind, about simplicity. I want you to talk to us today about what that looks like and what, yeah, just some lessons around simplicity too.

Yes. yes. One of the even the phrase that I had on the background of my phone for a long time was simplicity is luxury. it's this is where we get into. love like simplicity doesn't have to be like less like you can go into like the minimalist type aspect. But the whole essence and frequency of it is really are you clearing out the non-essential things? It's really goes in line with the getting naked.

and simplifying things and allowing just even like what I eat and my food right now, I keep it so fucking simple. Like my wardrobe right now is just, I have a nice beautiful wardrobe and it's everything that I love. I got to do a couple of clear outs recently because I've lost some weight. Yay. Congratulations. Thank you. Getting more healthy and I love it. And business wise is really like, I sometimes ask myself is like how...

Speaker 2 (43:24.256)
simple can I actually make this? Like, we can complicate the fuck out of things and add so many different avenues or social media outlets we're trying to do, or if you do email funnels and stuff, it's like, how much simple, how more simple can you make this? And with AI, like a fucking low chat GPT. It's like, the email sequence for sex like diamonds, a...

totally pop that out in like 20 minutes. And like, boop, here you go. It's like, my gosh, this is amazing. And the idea of like the simplicity is allows so much more ease. And it allows us to untangle from and break up from chaos, complexity and drama. And cause a lot of us women are addicted to chaos and addicted to the struggle and having, you know, things be so simple. It's like,

Even recently with my, cause it's so recent, I'm diving even deeper into carnivore eating that I'm doing just with the health stuff and also body stuff and like the simplicity of the food. I don't have to now think what I'm gonna eat. There's no mind drama of like what I'm having for dinner. There's, I'm eating in this like smaller window of time. So even when I got like home the other night, I'm like, what do I

what do I do with my life? Like there's so much space. And that's part of it with the simplicity is because we fill stuff up so much because we're addicted to all those things and we're addicted to hiding. We just go in and like, okay, let me do more here. Let me prove more over here. Let me just complicate the fuck out of things. But simplicity is, I feel like that's where things are paved with more pleasure.

which is the path to the success that we're wanting as feminine beings. And it takes a lot to shift into that mode because yeah, simplicity, oftentimes we are not comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 (45:29.71)
I mean even listening to you, I'm like I feel it in my gut. I think for me I love being busy like I and I've always had that.

What do you feel?

Speaker 1 (45:41.928)
Chelsea and I are in the same Denver mastermind. Yes, and so I'm getting there, but I just I have to say this too because you are so good at what you do, but even in communities that you're in, like you have given me so much insight to like even when we're doing like a sales challenge and consistency challenge is what I was calling it just like trying to get my ass in gear because

definitely have some like perfectionism tendencies, but I also work well with that busy kind of like check like I get so much satisfaction from the to do list. And that's where I'm like, am I type A but I'm type B plus. But I digress and it's like that, that busyness. I think it's because I don't like to be bored. Like I, I like to stay busy because I like to

get things done, but in a way that kind of excites me. I don't know. And I think that not necessarily chaos is what I enjoy, but building this business, I've gotten so used to being in this busyness cycle that and don't get me wrong, like I can rest and I have my couch potato moments, but I'm a generator. So I'm constantly in that kind of like hamster wheel.

And so simplicity as a luxury for me, like that is what I would aspire to. And I think a lot of people listening, like they want that so badly. And sometimes I am envious of my corporate girlies that are friends because, you know, most of them have that nine to five window and then it's done. It's like they don't have to bring it home with them. For me, my office is at home. My computer is constantly with me, my phone, you know, so it's like.

I am in that season of of busyness, but I really am mindful of not. I don't want to become addicted to it. And I don't. I know that my worth is so much more than what I do. And so I think as a child, like if I really am diving deep into this and this is I just feel always feel so safe with you when I do this. But just as a child, like wanting to show my mom and dad.

Speaker 1 (47:57.038)
in my family that I was doing a good job in school or being that good girl. And I think as having divorced parents, it was always like, oh, let me show them how good I've been or what I've done this week. I just always felt like I was not reporting to a boss because there's so much love there. It's not really like that. was just like, think subconsciously as a kid, I grew up wanting to prove myself.

through my work and my success. And it's made me a very self-driven, ambitious person, but it also has kept that busyness cycle going well into my 20s. So it's like, yeah, but I think a lot of you can resonate with that and freedom and time and getting that back, that is the ultimate luxury. I've heard recently offline is the new luxury and that just rings so true to me. mean, I do social media management as one of my services, so I'm always online.

and

Speaker 1 (48:53.4)
But yeah, so I just learned, you can learn so much from that. So thank you so much for sharing that because it's such a beautiful thing. Yes. So how, and you've shared a little bit within your Simplicity is Luxury, but how are you giving yourself grace in this season of business?

Part of it goes hand in hand with the simplicity piece is I reached a whole new level of that simplicity and peace and calm and just even you had said before of like, well, you know what the board and it's well, you can't get bored if you're connecting to the pleasure of every moment. Yes. And not seeking that pleasure and validation through the doing of more. But when you're like

having things be more simple is that it's it is uncomfortable. Yes. Like because right now like I've and we've even talked about in the mastermind where I've like kept like chasing these different things in my business and I kept like trying to leap I'm like let's do this offer let's do this let's do this and like always trying to like do something.

rather than actually being where I am. And so that big place of giving myself grace is allowing myself to be, I'm like floating on the lazy river right now. And it's like, instead of like picking up the paddles and like, we gotta go and like, where are we fucking going? I gotta like make sure I'm doing something otherwise. this isn't like, I can't just.

I love it.

Speaker 2 (50:27.618)
be hanging out on the river. I'm even thinking of, I did some rafting as a kid growing up here in Colorado. And like there's points on the river, right? You go through the rapids, but then there's points on the river where it's like, you're like looking at the scenery and like, you take a breath and it's really good. And right now they're like, the scenery is scenery-ing, whatever the phrase is, like, we're still on the calm part of the river. And it's like, wait.

Like it's really good in my marriage. It's really good in my business. feeling really good in my body. Like, yeah, of course there's always room for growth and et cetera, but it's like this new place of I'm not in survival mode anymore. I'm not improving mode anymore. I'm not in pleasing mode anymore. I'm not in like perfectionist mode anymore. Like, yeah, it pops up like little bits of that, but it's like, this is weird. And so I'm just giving myself grace to

just acclimate myself to this new level and not like make it weird. Even though part of me is like, this is weird, is this okay? And it's just like giving myself doses of like, no, this is okay. I was like, well, shouldn't we be doing more? No, no, just stay here, be here. Like one of the phrases I often use is be where you want to be met. And so I am being in the peace. I'm being in the calm. I'm being in the pleasure. I'm being in.

the ease, especially as a projector in human design, like I am like in the frequency I meant to be in. Like my human design is like a mega feminine energy, mega. So like I'm in it and it is uncomfortable a little bit, but I'm giving myself grace being like, all right, let myself embody this new level of my feminine being and know that it's safe and it's okay. And I'm meant to be here and there's more and I'm excited.

That's so beautifully said. Thank you so much for sharing. Just being like we can just be. There's so much happiness, abundance, love and just grace within that and accepting that and to get to that place. That is a luxury in itself. That's abundance right there. And just to witness you in this sexy, delicious moment, like obsessed. I'm literally obsessed.

Speaker 2 (52:47.915)
If past Chelsea could see me now. Yes. my gosh, I love you past Chelsea. Mm-hmm.

She's beautiful. Past all the versions of ourselves. We're just so proud of where we come today. So Chelsea, tell us where we can find you.

Yes, so easiest way is drchelsipage.com and Instagram drchelsipage, DR, and on Facebook drchelsipagexo.

Awesome. We'll have to, put all of this in the show notes because people need to connect with you. You are next level, amazing, delicious in all forms. I'm just so grateful to have you on today. Seriously, thank you for coming and just being all that you are.

I love it. Thank you, thank you. And celebration shimmies.

Speaker 1 (53:34.602)
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