Scalarious
Frighteningly Funny! Comedians John Olson and DW Surine chat with entertainers, authors and creators about their paranormal experiences, and paranormal experts to back them up! A perfect mixture of paranormal and comedy!
Scalarious
Ep. 80 Robert the Doll: America's Most Malevolent Toy
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The sailor-suited boy with the penetrating stare sits motionless in his glass case at Key West's East Martello Museum, yet visitors whisper their requests before snapping photos. They've heard the stories—what happens when you disrespect Robert the Doll.
In this spine-tingling episode, John welcomes comedian Zach Scharf to explore America's most notorious haunted doll. Together, they delve into Robert's century-long history of terror that began in 1904 when young Gene Otto received the German-made Steiff doll from his grandfather. What started with furniture mysteriously overturned and childish claims that "Robert did it" evolved into something far more sinister as neighbors reported seeing the doll moving independently, watching from windows, and mocking passersby.
The haunting intensified after Gene's death when new owners discovered their daughter waking screaming in the night, claiming Robert was stalking her bedroom. We examine the chilling theory that a mistreated servant may have cursed the doll with voodoo as revenge against the wealthy Otto family, explaining Robert's apparent ability to inflict misfortune on those who disrespect him.
Most unsettling are the contemporary accounts from museum visitors whose cameras mysteriously malfunction when attempting unauthorized photos, only to work perfectly again once they leave Robert's presence. Some report serious illnesses, accidents, and other misfortunes following their encounters—including a famous YouTuber who developed cancer after filming Robert without permission.
Whether you're a paranormal enthusiast or skeptic, Robert's story raises fascinating questions about object attachment, the power of belief, and the thin veil between our world and whatever might lie beyond. Just remember—if you ever visit him yourself, always ask permission first.
Thanks for watching what's going on. This is scolarius. I am john olsen, and with me, as always is no, not as always, because he's not here today, but I have a really, really cool guest. Oh, ghost zach, sharp zach, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:I'm doing great. How are you doing, john?
Speaker 1:uh, I, I miss my, my, my dubs. I miss my dubs. Buddy, I don't know I, I, I you're, you're, you're good, but but he's, he's the dubs, you know, and I, it's weird, I, I don't even know what disabled walrus uh, um, dancing will borrow. I, I don't, I got, I got nothing. And you would be like yeah, the delightful wingman delightful wingman you know you being is weird. With the letters as you're, you'd be like zoological shit scooper. I don't.
Speaker 2:I have no idea what it's actually what they used to call me in high school.
Speaker 1:Is it really? I'm really good, I'm really good at that. See, they weren't just nicknames for the doves, so do your thing, oh Right, open.
Speaker 2:I got a Smazy Strawberry Lemonade, non-alcoholic, thc, seltzer, nice. I have never had this before. Do you know what was?
Speaker 1:it? Who's the brewer? Who makes it the?
Speaker 2:brewer Luplin Brewing In.
Speaker 1:Minnesota. I'm assuming.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in Big Lake, minnesota. I guess I never did research on this. I got this actually as a gift from my brother. This is how he announced that he was having a kid, is giving me THC drinks. He had a note on it. I can't remember what it said, but yeah, I'm going to be an uncle, so that's going to be cool.
Speaker 1:Nice, very cool. Yeah, all right, you ready.
Speaker 2:Let's get into it. What do you got here? Diet?
Speaker 1:Coke, diet, coke. Yeah, all right, but it's not like I haven't partaked in said THC. So we get to play my favorite game on Scalarius, guess when it kicks in. Yes, all right, let me take a swig of this baby. And then we got some chatting to do. All right, yeah. So anybody knows? I don't know If you're tuning in to hear DW. I'm sorry for many reasons. Number one is that you're tuning in to hear DW.
Speaker 2:If you miss DW. I can kind of do somewhat of an impression of him.
Speaker 1:I don't know, not as good as me, I'm all creepers.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing, John. I really don't like your impression of me and I just don't think you can do it correctly, Okay.
Speaker 1:It's like he's not even gone All right, that's cool it works. That's all I got.
Speaker 1:All right. So you know things are happening and people are probably wondering why DW isn't here. But if you've been paying attention, you know that he's taking a little bit of a break because he's got personal life and things and whatnot and he deserves to do that. On the flip side of that, if I take a break, we're going to have to do reruns or something, because I'm the one that directs the ship. So, um, so, yeah, that's, that's, that's where he's at, and uh, d dubs my buds creepers. Uh, hope you uh come back soon.
Speaker 1:Uh, we loved you, buddy and uh, yeah, we do, we do miss you. But, yeah, and, all right, we might as well get into this. You might like this a little bit. I got my first real hate mail this week, yeah, yeah. And you might ask yourself how do I know it's hate mail? Well, it was signed, fuck you. So I, you know, I don't know. I wish I could say that I am surprised, but I'm not, not really. But at the same time, I also wish I could say that it bothers me because it don't, and I apologize to the universe out there because I know like worse things could happen and I don't want to invite anything like that. But let's just say this, let's just say this. They may have been offended and that's fine. I don't mean to offend anybody, but I don't care if I do.
Speaker 1:And that is on a shirt that I have that you could get at crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash scolariaspod. And along with a whole lot of other ones, one of my favorite shirts is the Old Criper shirt. That one's pretty good. That's. Dw's favorite saying is the Old Cripers. You can get that at crowdmadecom. Uh, also, I have no idea who john olsen is, which is a running gag throughout all of scolarius, well, at least the last three or four months, and, um, that one, that one seemed people like that one. I'm not sure why, but my queen consort got herself I have no idea who John Olsen is a sweater, which is weird to me because she definitely knows who I am. But maybe she's trying to tell people otherwise.
Speaker 2:I have no idea, I myself have gotten one of those those it's very nice, very comfortable yeah, I know exactly who you are exactly we love it it's just, it's fun to act like you don't.
Speaker 1:And I get that, yeah, and you know other things you could get at crowdmadecom 4 slash collections, 4 slash scolariaspod is, I don't know, our coasters. Why have coasters when you can have coasters? Right, it's a coaster with our logo on it and it's badass. Everything's cheap, man. It's like under $30. It goes from $10 to $ to 30.
Speaker 1:I don't know you got hats we have, oh, dog leashes, dog collars, pet bowls. You know things like. You can use the leash and the collar on other things if you wanted to. You know the spice up the uh, spice up the old sex life, you know, and the and take it to the bedroom, use that leash, use that collar, you know, or she could use it on you. It's cool. Whatever works, do that. But just remember, get all that stuff at crowdmatecom forward slash collections, forward slash scolariaspod. Also, this is really weird doing this without DW, but I have to do it anyway. You know, I'll tell you why. I'm just going to do my half and then, zach, since you're the co-ghost today, you do what. You do your half of this and tell people where they can find you. But you know they can find me on Facebook at John Olsen Comedian 2.0. You can also find me and DW together.
Speaker 2:But not as a couple.
Speaker 1:No, we're not a couple On the Scolarius page Also on Facebook, not a couple On the Scolarius page also on Facebook. I do have a TikTok, scolarius8. Don't understand that. But whatever, instagram also Scolarius. And if you want to, if you want to and I know recent studies have shown that people do want to If you want to send me hate mail, do that at scolariaspod at gmailcom, or if you want to be a guest on our show, do that.
Speaker 1:You can send it there. It would be really cool. If you're into it. Here we are. This is what I want to do. I'm going to make some ground rules for guests of our show. I would like entertainers like comedians, things like that. Authors Okay. Also, people in the paranormal field Okay, not people. You know paranormal researchers, paranormal investigators, you know people that are, like you know, in paranormal entertainment, you know things like that. Come on in, that's cool. I want to talk to you and we can share our conversation with the world. Yeah, just email me at sclaryspod at gmailcom, or if you want to only if you want to, you can go back and listen to every single episode that we have at sclarispotbuzzsproutcom. Now, zach, where can you be?
Speaker 2:found. Well, you can find me in many, many places, mainly Olmstead County, downtown. You know handcuffs, never mind. You can find me on Instagram at Zach Schar s-c-h-a-r-f. Um. You can find me at facebook, uh, zach sharp comedy. Uh, I'm also on tiktok fatzach um, and I don't have any merch. But if you want to give me money, my venmo is z sharp 507 so me money.
Speaker 2:My venmo is z sharp 507, so I should try that. How come I haven't done that before? Venmo me money, just give me money, yeah it's at only two, three, three, three.
Speaker 1:Just I mean, and only ole two, three, three, three. Uh, yeah, but I don't know why I haven't done that yet. But hit me up, man, just send me. Listen, I like coffee, I like to drink coffee a lot. So if you want to buy me a coffee, they actually have an app called Buy Me Coffee. Did you know that?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:It's weird. I don't know what it is, but people just buy. People. Buy me a coffee, send me money. Send Zach money, just send us money. We me coffee send. Send me money. Send zach money, just send us money.
Speaker 1:We need it, yeah we're, we do comedy, we need it's so very, very yeah, yeah, it's not a very lucrative, uh, business, uh at all. No, all right, well, you know, we we came on here to do some do some chatting about some paranormal stuff. First of all, I want to talk to you for just a couple minutes before we get into things. I feel that people need to know what brought you to scolarius, right, because a lot of people might not know this, like unless they listen to are under the table, which I sincerely doubt they did but unless they listen to under the table, they're not going to understand. Right, like, where you, you know, came into this from. So, zach, you're, you're a fan of our show, right, you like it. What? What brought you to sclarious? And then, that's, that's the first question. And, like, how freaking thrilled are you to be sitting in the dub spot today?
Speaker 2:um, well, I am to start off. I am so um honored to be able to take the dub spot today. He said the last episode uploaded. He said that I have to be the funny. That's a very, very hard job to fill, so there's a lot of pressure put on me, but anyway. So how I met was we had that show in Rochester at the Legion. It was the first time we met and you mentioned that you had a show which I butchered the name of.
Speaker 1:How hard is it Scary and hilarious. It's hilarious, I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was on me. I'm not good with words or remembering things. That's okay. I'm not good with words or remembering things.
Speaker 1:That's okay. I'm not good with them either. But you mentioned you had 80-plus episodes of people knowing that I'm not great with words.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, a lot of people aren't good with words. It's okay to not be good with words, I know you know, yeah, but I gave the show a listen. Um, I love the way you and dw just got along and we're talking to each other and just it's a great, great, great way to move on with the show and I loved it and I just I've been listening.
Speaker 1:Last few weeks I have been lacking, I will say I've been pretty busy, so I mean, to be fair, I think a lot of people have been lacking, based on our numbers, but I mean it's okay. But then again there was, uh, there was a stinker a couple weeks back that we're not gonna really get too far into, but I will say it might have. I don't know, I'm not gonna say I put the nail in the coffin of scolarius, but it sure is, but it whoo, it shut the lid for a second. I think holy crap, but anyway, all right. Um, yeah, and so I brought you on. You're a comedian, I'm a comedian kind of, and so, and the basis for scolarius is obviously paranormal and comedy. So I mean we we've been chatting amongst ourselves, maybe entertaining people, who knows, maybe not, most likely not but like we've been chatting between ourselves, doing the comedy portion, kind of. So what do you think? Should we get to the paranormal portion?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:All right, well, okay, so I picked this first of all. Another peek behind the curtain of Scalarius. Okay, we had another episode that was scheduled to be made. Things happened, they had to be canceled. So we kind of had to do this in not short notice, because I've been thinking about this particular subject for a long, long time. The opportunity arose based on the cancellation, and why not, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, might as well.
Speaker 1:Dig into it. Yeah, the subject that we are digging into today happens to be arguably the most haunted doll in history.
Speaker 2:I know you're thinking.
Speaker 1:I know listeners are thinking Annabelle. Right, that's what they're thinking Annabelle. No, it's not Annabelle. Actually, if you're in the pronouns which, oh God, I don't know why you would be. But if you're in the pronouns which, oh God, I don't know why you would be. But if you're in the pronouns that one is wrong because it's not even a chick doll, no, it's a dude doll and he's a dude and a doll from Florida.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people that are into the paranormal already know who I'm talking about, but for those that are listening to this for my beautiful voice don't, and you might as well let them know. Robert the doll, that is the subject that me and Zach are going to be getting into today. Robert the doll, what do you, what do you think of this, zach? What do you think of talking about robert the doll?
Speaker 2:you know um before you uh texted me uh, that's this talking about robert the doll. I had no idea what it was, so I did uh some in some extensive research, which was about uh 10 minutes of scrolling on tiktok about it that's very extensive good job. That's more than I put in on a daily basis for this show, but okay but you, you know, I, I it's actually pretty, pretty freaking scary, I think, just looking at it. Um, I'm I'm excited to talk a little bit more about it, but uh, yeah all right.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, we want to say this uh, we're going to talk about robert the doll in 100 total respect, because even saying what you just said there gives me the heebie-jeebies, because I know, know that this thing, supposedly, is very, very powerful and anybody who messes with him, they're going to get theirs. So we're going to say this first off Is he a great-looking doll, as dolls go? No, not really, but he is powered by, possibly, an entity that we need to respect. So, therefore, but there is no entity greater than God just throwing it out there, but, you know, might as well we don't want any bad juju coming down on us. So, let's, let's get going with Robert and let's do this in a kind of respectful manner, as much as we possibly can. All right. So, first of all, if we want to, we can either go back to the beginning Well, you always have to start at the beginning but meaning we could go back to his. Yeah, let's just do this. I'm going to start here and then we're going to backtrack and then move our way forward.
Speaker 1:He is in the East Martello Museum in Key West Florida right now. He sits there in a glass box, okay, and on a chair, also with like a doll, like he has a doll himself, like this is okay. Like a little teddy bear, people can look at him. He does get taken out of the case every once in a while, but it's protected. There's one thing, robert the doll wants your permission, wants to have permission. Wait, hold on, he needs you to ask permission. There we go to take pictures of him, otherwise things kind of happen to you know mess, get messed up, all right. So are you ready? I'm so ready, all right. The doll originally belonged to robert eugene auto and, yeah, an artist described as eccentric who belonged to a prominent key west family. The doll was reportedly manufactured by the steif company of germany. Okay, german doll, I can understand why he's so it's already scary yep, there it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's angry because he is german, um, and he was actually given he, meaning robert, was given to robert the person, okay, by robert the person's grandfather, okay, in 1904. And in case you don't know what Robert the doll looks like, he's kind of a fluffy doll but he has a sailor suit on, okay, and that sailor suit was a suit that Robert the person wore as a child. Okay, yeah, all right, the doll, uh, stayed at the auto family home at 434 eaton street in key west. So that's important. Okay, 434 eaton street in key west, florida. The house, I believe, still stands, okay, and uh, we'll we'll get back to that in just a little bit as we talk about what happened with Robert at that house.
Speaker 1:Robert Otto the person married Annette Parker in Paris oh, look at that In 1930. Okay, the couple returned to the home in Florida where they lived until Robert Otto died in 1974. Annette ended up dying in 1976. After the death, the Eaton Street home contained the doll and was sold to Myrtle Reuter, who owned it for 20 years until the and was sold to Myrtle Reuter, who owned it for 20 years until the property was sold to the current owners, who operated it as a guest house, which I mean, I suppose without Robert there, it's probably not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1:But anyway, now we talked about earlier that he was at the East Martello Museum. Well, he went there in 1994. He was donated there. And the reason why he was donated there? Because Robert was causing trouble to the owners of the house. He was, yeah, he was kind of a thing. He was kind of a turd, respectively. A turd, yeah, all right. So his abilities are to be able to change his facial expressions. Okay, walk around by himself. That's crazy. Giggle and other things, all right the giggles alone would.
Speaker 2:Oh, just freaking alone in the house and you hear giggles. Could you imagine that? I know?
Speaker 1:but, oh my gosh I'm alone in my house and hear footsteps and it's crazy, see, and we're gonna digress for just a second. Like I, I, we live kind of by some very high, powerful like power lines and I'm believe I I'm, I think, not 100 sure, but I think it like causes issues intermittently. I'm not saying it's all the time, but I I think it's like kind of like I don't know how to say like supernatural, super highway or something I have no idea, but like it just happens every once in a while. Um, there was times a couple weeks ago there was like footsteps and then uh, like banging, like you hear shit, like stuff like doors shutting on their own, uh, things like it was. Yeah, it's been crazy, but uh, I think it's nothing huge. It might just be because I, if I could do this show and shit's following me now I have no idea.
Speaker 1:But, um, we're gonna go into some of the stuff that happened like back in the day with with robert the doll. Now, robert the man was an artist and he used it. Okay, so this, the house that they live in, had like a what do you call those things? Um, it's the very top of the house. It's kind of not a roof shut up. I can just hear people like roof unit.
Speaker 1:No, it's a terrace a terrace, but it's enclosed. Uh, a room, Thank you. I can't remember the exact term, but it's round, it has windows on all sides and it's.
Speaker 2:Oh, like kind of like a like it's at the way top and and yeah, it's kind of like an outlook whatever.
Speaker 1:Not a piccolo or a cupola, that's cupola, a cupola with that. We'll just go with the cupola. Okay, so the uh. Well, yeah, we're gonna say cupola. I don't know, but the guy used that as his art room and he would sit Robert in the chair looking out the window. This is in his older years, so we're talking like in the late 60s, you know, early 70s or whatever. He'd sit Robert in a chair looking out the window and kids would walk by or whatever and wave to robert and things like that.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, obviously after robert the man died, uh, the wife put robert somewhere else. Robert the doll, I apologize, put robert the doll somewhere else. She didn't put robert the guy somewhere else, you know where he went, but anyway. So put robert the doll somewhere else and he would end up in that chair looking out the window when school got out, like every night. So there's that. And then lock him in the closet. Somehow the closet would end up open, robert be somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Uh, when she died, robert stayed with the house and there was people that that came in there and moved in there and had had kids right, and so people, you know, the kid found the doll and it's like, oh, I'm gonna start playing with it. Started playing with robert and shit started happening like all sort of paranormal stuff you know, like the giggling they're running you hear running through the house. You can hear you know, uh, him looking out a window, uh the door opening and shutting things like that. And finally the parents are like uh, no, so they took him and locked him up, put him up in the attic and when that started they started hearing footsteps in the attic. They started hearing things just not going too good for them. I believe that's what led. A lot of that led to Robert being donated to the museum that he's in right now. So I mean, that's kind of a brief you know thing there, but still, what do you think of Robert the Doll so far?
Speaker 2:Honestly, some scary shit. Like, with all due respect, that's probably like if I had to be in that situation of, uh, hearing those things is just be crazy, what would it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so just so people know you are not a big believer of any of this shit, right?
Speaker 2:not a big believer. I I'm welcome into um hearing, hearing people out, um I don't. I've never really had an experience, so that's really why I it's hard for me to believe it, but I also do believe it a little bit. You know, I'm just kind of like riding the fence, sitting right on the fence okay, fair enough, yeah, well, um, yeah, I, I don't he.
Speaker 1:He had some weird stuff that he did. This kid like here. We're just gonna go through some things that maybe robert the doll possibly could have done and people don't don't really know. Well, you know, robert Otto everybody called him Gene named the doll Robert, and quickly became attached to his new friend um the home where Eugene lived. Okay, we're gonna now call him Eugene, and that's cool, because now we can tell which person I'm talking about when I say robert and or robert, okay, whatever. It's now called the artist house. Obviously we know it's located at 534 eaton street.
Speaker 1:It was built somewhere between 1890 and 1898, um, so his uncle gave him the doll. You know, it seemed like the doll was ordinary, an ordinary cloth doll. It wasn't long, you know, and Robert was involved in some of the strange stuff that happened. The first hint that something out of the ordinary was happening was one night when Jean, who was only 10 years old, woke to find robert the doll sitting at the end of his bed staring at him. Found him at the end of the bed staring at him. Huh.
Speaker 2:I hate dolls. Yeah, no, I do too. I've been trying to think of the doll, the one with the red hair, annabelle. Is that Annabelle? Is that what it's called? Yeah, because I know the movie about the Annabelle doll.
Speaker 1:Oh, like Raggedy, Ann.
Speaker 2:Yeah, raggedy Ann, raggedy Ann.
Speaker 1:That's why they call it. Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had one of those Raggedy Ann dolls growing up in the house and I could never go around that thing. I've kind of warmed up to it a little bit, but when I was younger there was just something about it.
Speaker 1:I get it, me dolls. There's a different reason. Anything that looks human-like and I know it's not human, fuck that. Plus, I've had experiences with dolls Not sex dolls shut up like actual, like haunted dolls, and you know.
Speaker 2:so, yeah, it was that's kind of why like dwarves kind of scare me too, because like they're human but they're just like shorter, you know like little kids and dwarves.
Speaker 2:Dwarves you mean like really midget yeah I mean I wasn't trying to use the m word here, but like come on, it's okay. So like they frighten me they frighten, you know, like not scared, like run away scared, but like that is so funny really just a little spooky, come on, you know all right, you don't feel no, because I'm sorry kicking the shin or something no, it's no different than like a kid, you know, like?
Speaker 1:no, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to say that they're the same. I'm just saying, like you know, come on really, I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying they can't be strong. You know, I've seen's wrestlers, I know. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I think I've only seen one or two in my life, if I really think about it, which is a good thing.
Speaker 1:Wait, you've never seen Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2:Well, in person. I've seen a dwarf on video, but I've never met one personally.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck is this show going to? Um, I had no idea. We're talking about robert the doll, not somewhere over the rainbow. You know that.
Speaker 2:Right, like it's this yeah, okay you, you were saying like things, that like uh like oh human like human, human like, oh, hold on they are not human like they.
Speaker 1:They're humans. Oh yeah, but like Just throwing it out there, you said human-like. No, you were more offensive than me. I sit there, I use midget and you have to sit there and like, oh no, you're using M-word, but you say they're human-like.
Speaker 2:They're human. They are human, but they're paranormal, not normal. They paranormal, not normal, they're not normal. That was from your definition you gave a few weeks ago. They're paranormal, they're not normal.
Speaker 1:Let's come back to your logic here oh, okay, yeah, I never said that about midgets. I said about above the normal. These are normal people. Oh, my see, like it's me. You need to be like zach sharp, don't give a shit. If he hurts people's feelings, my god, talk about me doing it. I'm correcting you. How bad is that what I'm correcting you? I am the one, I'm the moral high ground here. How bet, really, okay, all right, yeah, that's. Oh, I want to rethink some life choices there. Zach, if I'm, if I'm, the moral compass, we got problems.
Speaker 2:Okay, just out there I'm not saying that they're not human, it's just it's different.
Speaker 1:So found out that Robert also did some pretty crazy stuff. Okay, like overturned furniture and things like that. Yeah, like this is how powerful Robert supposedly is. Okay, overturned furniture through stuff, stuff like that. This is how powerful Robert supposedly is. Overturned furniture through stuff, stuff like that. Gene's mom thought it was him. All he kept saying is Robert did it. Now, mind you, good scapegoat, Right, kind of. But at some point they had to figure out that Robert the doll wasn't anybody to be played with. Yeah, so Robert, sorry, I'm going to go back.
Speaker 1:Gene grows up, he gets older. He's going to go out. He's going to marry this chick, right? He's going to marry the woman. Well, he marries her. And then she's like, hey, why do you have this doll? And he's gonna go out. He's gonna marry this chick, right, he's gonna marry, marry the woman. Well, he marries her. And she's like, hey, why do you have this doll? And he's like, hey, I can't get rid of it. Not, I don't want to or anything, I can't get rid of it, okay, um, and we found out why you can't get rid of it because, again, locked him in the closets, he'd find his way out. Lock him in the attic, he'd find his way out. There's he, and then do things, you know, with a giggle, yeah, which is kind of kind of crazy.
Speaker 2:All right what do you think the giggle sounded like? Can you do like I can't do? What do you think the giggle sounded like? Can you do like a quick?
Speaker 1:little. I'm not Mr Impressionist. I can't just do a giggle out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:You got something. What do you think?
Speaker 1:When I say creepy like kid giggle, I think like hee, hee, hee, hee. No, that can't be right. That sounds nothing like that.
Speaker 2:I don't know. A grown man child like a dwarf. I love grown man child like a, like a dwarf I love how the fact you're you're literally being an ass clown, and disparaging a whole group of people.
Speaker 1:I'm not trying to. But wait, hold on. But wait. When it comes to your saint dwarf now you might as well just go all out. I was, I was quote, unquote the offensive one, but saying the mission we. We've discussed this many, many times. I have friends. They don't care, right, they don't care no, they don't care. I'm not saying that, not everybody don't. I'm just saying, like you, use the word midget.
Speaker 2:So you got the empaths.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, where the fuck is this going? Can we talk about the doll? Yeah, let's do it. All right, jesus. All right, you're going to get me fucking shadow banned. I don't know how Numbers can't get any worse than what they've been, but you know, you know, somehow it's cool, get me canceled, it's gonna. Yeah, that'd be how it goes, like I go throughout my whole freaking career. I'm pushing 50, haven't gotten canceled yet. You get on one show and then I'll be gone nobody knows who you are anyway that's true.
Speaker 1:you can find that at crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash clary spot Anyway. So we have to get into this. Neighborhood children reported seeing Robert watching them from the window in the upstairs bedroom and told accounts of the doll actually mocking them as they walked by to school.
Speaker 2:Mocking them.
Speaker 1:How Like, how Like, how do you Like?
Speaker 2:walking with them, Like walking yeah.
Speaker 1:That kind of shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, though. If that was the case, could you imagine that as a kid? Is that fucking dolls moving? Yeah, I don as a kid, that fucking doll's moving. A doll, yeah, I don't know. They probably didn't say it. You have to be all demure and stuff, like if it was in the 70s or far out man, check out the doll.
Speaker 1:Kind of like that. You know, I don't know, but anyway they were telling like, hey, you know, blah, blah, blah, Like the doll's up there, he's mocking us. That's weird that they would do that. But you know, when Gene heard this, he immediately went to investigate, knowing that he had locked Robert in the attic and there was no way he could be sitting by the window of the upstairs bedroom. But to his complete shock, when he opened the door to the bedroom, there was Robert sitting in the rocking chair by the window. Gene locked Robert back up in the attic several times, each time discovering him again sitting by the window in the same upstairs bedroom. Now, what do you think Like? What could make that happen? An inanimate object behind closed doors? What can make it happen?
Speaker 2:I don't know well you, you did have um a few weeks ago. You had this guest who, uh, sells these items where the spirits um attached to the items. So maybe it could have been something going on like where it was being made, like in germany it was being made in germany oh yeah, but see those like before the first world war.
Speaker 2:They were assholes, but they weren't world-class assholes at that point so I don't know, something attached to it at some point and, uh, I don't like people apparently not well, it likes certain people, certain and I feel like it might attach itself to that certain person or whatever, and waits it out.
Speaker 1:So you know, as we talked about earlier, gene Otto died in 1974 when a new owner moved into the house on Eaton Street. Their 10 year old daughter was delighted to find Robert the doll in the attic. But her delight ended soon when she claimed that Robert was alive and that the doll wanted to hurt her. She awoke, often in the middle of the night, screaming in fear, and told her parents that Robert had moved about the room. Now I heard at one point that same girl in bed woke up and Robert was like choking her.
Speaker 2:Hey, so I don't know If someone woke up choking me, I don't know To be scared or turned on. I really don't know.
Speaker 1:By a doll Okay. Well A male doll Okay, all right, really don't know. By adult. Okay well, a male doll okay, all right, I don't know, all right now. Okay, it's cool, man, whatever 2025 come on dude, we don't worry 20 to be a girl or a guy doll could be 2025 and we know where we're recording. Yeah, there's LA. Then there's here Just throwing it out. There Can't get much yeah.
Speaker 2:A lot of male dolls going on around here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of male dolls going on around here. Yeah, a lot of male dolls, it's cool. Uh, many believe that the origin of robert's evil lies in the one who originally gave him to gene otto, the servant who worked for gene's parents. Uh, this woman was supposedly mistreated by her bosses and to punish them, and is believed that she cursed the doll with voodoo and black magic. That might explain the many mysteries and frightening experiences people have had with robert the doll.
Speaker 1:So voodoo and black magic now again it's in. It was a key west florida, so that's down there, it's down their ways. Um, I, I think that that is that's being. Yeah, I, a lot of that stuff happens down there. You know the black magic, the voodoo, stuff like that. They always have like, uh, witch doctors and you know what I mean, the shamans and stuff Like the Cuban cultures or whatever I don't know. Yeah, what do you think of that? It was a servant that was mistreated. So she's like I'll show you fuckers. And she puts a curse on the doll and it just, yeah, now it has to like, punish everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where do you, where do you start voodoo? Like, how do you like, how do you get into voodoo? How does one like just, you know, ah, I'll just start it. I don't know, I don't think. So I think they, uh, like, I'll just start it, I don't I don't think so I think they, uh, like you, grew up around it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's probably like I don't know. Yeah, I would. I would grew up around it. Maybe your, your grandpa or something was like a voodoo priest or what, whatnot. And then you're watching him be like oh that voodoo priest or what?
Speaker 2:what?
Speaker 1:not, and then you're watching him be like, oh, that's really cool, and then you want to do that. Voodoo priest, that's a good rock band name actually. Um, I like that. Uh, it's no better than ice nine kills, which is the greatest band, uh, walking the earth today. But you know whatever? Um, all right. So you know whatever, all right.
Speaker 1:So, I don't know. It might explain the many mysterious, frightening experiences that people have had with Robert the doll, but if so, would the haunting end when the owners died? No one really knows for sure. But one thing remains constant Robert the doll continues to taunt and scare those who come to view him, especially guests to the museum who attempt to take a photo. Many have reported their cameras becoming inoperable when they try to take a picture of Robert, only to begin working again when they left the museum. Again, robert Dahl sits inside a glass case, but it doesn't seem to stop him from inflicting fear and discomfort to museum staff and visitors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's crazy. There's actually a more famous case. I don't know if you've ever heard of Sam and Colby. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if you've ever heard of Sam and Colby yeah, I don't know who they are On YouTube. I'm not I don't watch them like on a regular basis but apparently Colby got cancer after visiting him, taking a picture or taking the video without asking permission. I guess other people have like gone to the hospital right after, which is crazy that is crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how like powerful this thing could be. And we're sitting here talking shit like. That's why I said we have to be respectful, because I don't want any of that stuff happening. I don't need cancer. God knows that I mean my family history. I'll probably end up with it anyway, but I don't need it now and I certainly don't need it like everything else. I'm just saying I don't. I don't need it to be doll inflicted. That would be the worst. No, that you know what I mean stage four doll inflicted cancer.
Speaker 1:My word all right, uh, if you want to. Again, if anybody out there wants to meet Robert the doll, you can do that at East Martello Museum. They're welcome to view Robert in his special case at the museum and, of course, encouraged to try and get a photo, though must have tried, have been unsuccessful, if nothing else. Get a close look at robert and watch him carefully. Try to catch a glimpse of him smirking at you, moving about in his case, or watching you as you watch him. Could you imagine this shit seriously? The doll turning his head looking at you as you're walking by?
Speaker 1:like running instantly very run, but I'd run for that very few things, is it scare me? But I think that would. That would trip me the hell. I had the door of the explorer doll. Try to fondle my booty, so like that makes me hate dolls more, all right, but watching a doll watching you walk across the room, nah man, I would. I I that that scared the shit out of me really would. And try to catch this. I don't know if anybody's ever seen a picture of Robert Dahl. We're going to post pictures on Facebook or whatever, but how does that smirk?
Speaker 2:How does that smirk?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what I mean is you've seen a picture of Robert Dahl, right?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:How does that smirk?
Speaker 2:I thought you were like yeah, how does that? How does that?
Speaker 1:thing smirk, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And if it?
Speaker 1:did? And if it did, how do you, how can you tell?
Speaker 2:I guess you'll tell. I did see this video. I don't know if it was real or not. They caught Robert blinking.
Speaker 1:They caught him blinking on camera. That was creepy, okay, which is really weird considering the fact. Again, yeah, his face, you can't. Yeah, it's just nuts, all right. Well, I don't know if you know this or not, but robert the doll inspired some pretty crappy movies, um, that you can find on Tubi, as a matter of fact, but we're going to go over it. There is literally a franchise, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we're going to go through this franchise of Robert the Doll movies, of Robert the Doll movies, and I just want you to tell me, zach, if you have like recognized any of it, like anything.
Speaker 2:So, okay, okay, well, four films, well, four films yep, I'm pretty sure, there's four, four films there is four films I've never seen.
Speaker 1:I've never seen them okay, there this robert, the curse of the robert the Robert the Doll, the Toymaker and the Legend of Robert the Doll, and a prequel, robert Reborn. Oh Okay, so there's actually quite a bit of them, do you? I mean, you've never seen them?
Speaker 2:I've never seen them.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I was talking to one of my friends about it and I guess he has. He's seen the movies and he's heard about it. Um, okay, he's scared about it, not the movies, but he's pretty scared about this episode me too um. Thank you, you're I guess I'm bringing the scary no, it's all good.
Speaker 1:Well, let's. I just kind of want to see we're going to go over the plot of the first film, robert, and I just want to see how close this is, okay, to what we just discussed okay lawyer, paul otto, and his wife jenny, an artist, decided that agatha, the nanny to their son, gene, is getting past it and make the decision to dismiss her.
Speaker 1:Agatha takes the decision badly and the resentful former nanny promises that uh promises this will not be the end of it. She departs, leaving gene with a hideous doll called robert, which is that's messed up after we send her, say we have to be respectful. This thing says cause calls it hideous, although this is the character robert, not the real robert okay, so the character robert the doll, not the real Robert.
Speaker 1:So the character Robert the Doll, not the real Robert the Doll, both played by dolls, alright. So shortly after Agatha was dismissed, things started happening. Furniture started getting thrown around, ominous giggles are heard in the dead of the night. Pretty soon, june jenny soon becomes concerned about the relationship between gene and robert. Gene insists that robert is alive and that it destroyed one of jenny's paintings and wrote die on her bathroom mirror seat. That's a little different. We didn't hear that one. Jenny soon comes to believe that Robert is alive and was responsible for pushing the cleaner Martha down the stairs and killing the babysitter Marcy. We're, we're, we're.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Jenny's mental health is playing up against it anyway. So, yeah, this, the plot of this is significantly different which doesn't shock me from the source material of Robert the Doll. I don't think he was ever a murderer, but you never know, and yeah, anyway. So if anybody wants to go and check out the Robert the Doll series, do so. You can start with Tubi, and I know everybody's got Tubi, all right. So now we're going to start asking Zach some questions about this because, well, you know, I just want to know what his freaking opinion is. What do you so, robert Nadal? What do you think Is he? Is he legit? Is he the thing?
Speaker 2:You know, I think this might be one of those things where I could believe in. You know it could be real, especially after listening to that episode of saying like paranormal things can attach themselves to, like different objects and stuff, and I really could see that happening here. Oh yeah, like something real bad that happening here.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, like something real bad. Well, how scared would you be if it was your doll? It was my doll. I got like a skeleton over here, like a giant skeleton, and like if he started looking at me like yeah, no, I had done, if I couldn't get rid of it, I'd probably I don't know.
Speaker 1:All right. So I mean that's a pretty good question there. Like if you had a doll and the doll started doing all that stuff, right, you would get rid of it right, you try to but it.
Speaker 2:I feel like it still lingers with you, like the spirit itself.
Speaker 1:You know it would yeah, which means you wouldn't be able to get rid of the doll. So, just like robert ends up in an attic, he comes out and all that junk, yeah, yeah, okay, me personally, I don't want a doll like at all. So, robert the doll most definitely not, cause he seems like he would be kind of um scary. Yeah, bad roommate, very bad roommate, that's all right, the bad roommate you are yeah, okay, walk around at night making noises. That's what I do which is weird because, like who's your roommate? Your mom?
Speaker 2:no, I I got. I got friends that I live with okay, okay, I got friends.
Speaker 1:Come on man I got friend.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, they were at least until I did square.
Speaker 1:It's no moon, don't talk to me now. Uh, which, okay? So in your opinion, is robert the doll haunted? Yeah, like is he is. Is he haunted?
Speaker 2:he's haunted, we'll go with it.
Speaker 1:I I do believe he's haunted okay, now you've heard the story of annabelle and stuff, right, not, you have a little bit.
Speaker 2:I know a little bit about it okay I know it's a doll that came to life Kind of.
Speaker 1:Similar to Robert. You know, like similar. It wasn't like not really come to life, but I'm going to say similar premise. If you were to like divide life into premises, it would be yeah, similar premise. Yeah, who do you think would be worse?
Speaker 2:definitely robert.
Speaker 1:Okay, definitely robert now, do you okay, go ahead just something.
Speaker 2:I feel like he's more believable, you know, because isn't annabelle? That's like a fake thing, ain't it? No, no animal is real. Annabelle's real Annabelle is real. Oh God, I got to look into that now. I thought it was just like a movie.
Speaker 1:No, it's in. Oh wow, you didn't know this.
Speaker 2:I did not know this.
Speaker 1:Yes, annabelle is real and actually recently she's on tour with Ryan Buell and Father Bob I think they're from Paranormal State and whatnot. She's on tour with ron buell and, uh, the father bob, I think they're like, uh, from paranormal state and and whatnot, so he's on tour yeah tour moving around moving around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they moved her like, uh, it was, let me see, it was new orleans, and then san antonio, somewhere else, I, I can't remember. And so she goes to new orleans and all of a sudden this plantation burns down. That was from her.
Speaker 1:I heard about that so, okay, yes, supposedly I don't know if that's whatever like who knows. And then I think something happened in in uh san antonio too. That was like, and as much as like that, ryan buell who's new to tiktok, by the way released to tiktok and he's like, okay, yes, there were fires in new orleans, there were fires in in uh san antonio. Did we make them? No, do we know who did? Yeah, so he was good. So I don't know. Um, but no man, no, annabelle is very, very, very real. She was a doll. That was, uh.
Speaker 1:They found in the early or late 1960s by ed lorraine warren, uh, found to be extremely fucking, uh, haunted like by possibly demonic entity. Okay, and this thing is blessed, like I think once or twice now they had it's, it's in a case in the warren museum and which used to be their basement and might still be, I don't know, but uh, it's in a case and it was told not to be moved or whatever they obviously did. But uh, and it's blessed, like, I think, once an hour, or something like that. That's how powerful annabelle is. I can't believe, man.
Speaker 2:You should have done your homework man, I'm sorry, I literally I thought it was just like a, like a fake movie or something no no annabelle is real, like sincerely yes, and quite powerful from what I heard.
Speaker 1:So again, I don't know, like, who do you think would be more powerful, robert or Annabelle?
Speaker 2:Well, they're moving her around, though, like she's not in the case, no more.
Speaker 1:No, she well, I mean she just stays in the case. She was still in the case, okay, but you in the case Okay. But they bless this case every year. It's just crazy.
Speaker 2:If they're blessing this thing, has Robert ever been blessed?
Speaker 1:I think Robert's blessed also. She's more scary, I feel it because, she's got the demons and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and plus she's more scary, I feel like because she's got like the, the demons and stuff yeah, and plus she's a raggedy and all.
Speaker 1:So I mean, there you go right. Hey, yeah, see I can't believe.
Speaker 2:I didn't know this I had. She was in my house, maybe that no, it wasn't her no, it wasn't her.
Speaker 1:No, but yeah, man, okay, wow, that was. I think that was a shocking, a shocking admission right there. You didn't know who annabelle was real holy my paranormal background is basically just ghosting.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know why?
Speaker 1:Yeah, watching fucking Ghost Adventures. That's why you don't know anything. Holy moly Watching Zach Baggins drama. Clean it up, holy crap.
Speaker 2:Zach Baggins and Dr Vekman were my three heroes.
Speaker 1:I mean okay you went with Peter Venkman, all right. I mean, okay, you went with Peter Frankman, all right. I don't know. You got to admit Egon was low-key, the funniest person there.
Speaker 2:Love Egon. Yeah, favorite scenes, yeah the dough yeah, I love that stuff, egon, I don't know that always just replays in my head. I love that movie. What's that when they're like starting up that movie? What's that where they're like starting up the packs after court and they're?
Speaker 1:going.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's in ghostbusters 2 it's in the second one ray yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the ghostbusters 2.
Speaker 1:Good, good flicks, man, I love ghostbusters. That's why I do this paranormal comedy. That's where it came from, right? So gotta give it up for the OG's Ghostbusters. That's pretty cool, okay, alright. So I don't know, what do you overall? What do you think of Robert like is? Is he worth the legend?
Speaker 2:I think he is. He's definitely worth the legend, especially if they're just keeping him in a box in a museum. That's crazy. Like he's that powerful, that's scary.
Speaker 1:Certainly is Well shit, okay. Okay, certainly is well shit, okay, he's. He's worth the legend. That's cool, what do you think? What do you think? I was gonna ask you something else about ghostbusters, but we'll wait for a little bit on that one, um, but what do I think?
Speaker 1:I? I think he is, I think he's worth the legend and I think I don't know. Um, I don't want to sit there and say that annabelle doesn't scare me, but I mean, I knew she was real, that's why, whatever, but I don't know. Just doing this episode I was kind. Okay, we have to keep this light and very respectful, because I know that things happen to people that fuck with Robert the Doll and, based on how our show goes at Scalarious, it'll take everything so seriously and I feel like the subject and him need to be taken seriously and I don't feel all that way about Annabelle. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that does make sense, cause there have been more known events that happen because of it too. So yeah, because of it too. So yeah, because of not respecting him. That being said, would you go see him? Yeah, I'd go see him, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel I would do like the St Michael prayer before I walk in and all that stuff. But yeah, I would. I would most definitely go see him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, would you. I don't know, after this episode, probably maybe all that Dorf talk really.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's where you're going.
Speaker 2:I don't, you know what. We'll go see him. We'll visit him. Visit him. I was gonna say that I wasn't going to, but I'm not afraid of anything.
Speaker 1:No more grabbing life yeah, you're not afraid of anything, so this I'm not, not afraid all right, so you'll go see him and I'll go see him. Maybe we'll go see him together, but yeah, maybe not, who knows? Uh, well, I have to ask you this because I feel like I kind of want to know has it kicked in yet? Oh, yes. Okay. Most definitely Okay, very cool. Good, now we know.
Speaker 2:Do we know when it kicked in?
Speaker 1:When do you think it kicked in? See, the game is not to be played between me and you. The game is to be played between us and them.
Speaker 2:I'm just asking you when you thought it would have been, when I thought I think it was, uh, after you were wrapping up all the the story behind it and we started talking.
Speaker 1:So it's more recent all right, very cool it's right there. It's at a good, good spot right now that's, that's good all right yeah, well, you might as well end this on a high note, then, what don't you think?
Speaker 2:yeah, let's do it very cool.
Speaker 1:so I'm gonna say this robert the doll, I feel very real, I feel very haunted, and all respect to robert the doll, I don't want any bad juju, just let you know. Alright, now we already said where we can find you and usually, when you know me and DW just talk with each other on a subject, we do a backseat 40, this or that. So I'm kind of wondering if you have a backseat 40, this or that. So I'm kind of wondering if you have a backseat forthy, this or that um, yeah, do you?
Speaker 2:have okay, yeah I we can just do some of the the other questions, because I doubt anyone, like you said, probably didn't listen yes, they did.
Speaker 1:I mean thank you, but you probably did well we'll bring it.
Speaker 1:We'll bring it out to them, to the people, for free all right, so maybe, maybe we will, but hold on, and what we're talking about is, uh, becoming a subscriber to sclarious on buzzsprout and basically what you get extra content like myself and Zach, our interview prior to this show and other content from other people but $3 a month, support us here at Scalarius, get some extra stuff that you're not going to hear, except for, maybe, this on a regular episode, alright, and you can do that at Buzzsproutcom Fourslide. It's hilarious. Just sit there. It's a little cash button. You click it and then you put some money in and then you get extra content from us and we collect the money, like not a lot, because it's like probably six bucks, but it's like, yeah, just a little bit, and we collect it and then myself and DW split it and then, if you do it after this episode, I'll probably have to give him a buck too. So, anyway, subscribe to us Now. Let's do the backseat for this or that, all right?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Do you want to start?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll start it.
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on. How's the rotation going to go? Because we have to end it on I'm assuming there's a stupid question, john Olson or somebody else, so we have to end it on that. So how do we do that? How do we start that to end it that way, or do we just whatever? Once we get to it, we'll know, and then yeah, yeah, all right, okay, we. Once we get to it, we'll know, and then yeah, yeah, all right, okay, we'll do it that way all right all right, so I'll start yeah eggs scrambled or over easy oh, honestly, I hate eggs.
Speaker 2:I really do hate eggs wow but if I were to eat them it would be scrambled. I could never eat it over easy okay, never, I love over easy.
Speaker 1:By the way, you dip your toast in that yolk.
Speaker 2:Eat that shit up, good stuff I think, I think I know that it's kicked in for you because you're making a lot of sound effects I like this all the time, all the time well, this for this episode what I guess. I don't know, maybe I'm just.
Speaker 1:That's the part that could. We got to a part that could have sound effects yeah let's like, unless you're talking like the 15 minutes we had on midgets earlier where I could have been making like doing, doing, doing sounds or whatever. Wow, I don't know all right. So I asked you, you got it, you asked me we're.
Speaker 2:We're on the, the subject of the breakfast, so um sausage or bacon sausage, oh sausage, yeah, really not a bacon guy.
Speaker 1:Uh, I feel, I don't know. I just again. I always think of like the best way I'm going to eat the food right, and bacon doesn't do anything into the stuff that I can collaborate into a sandwich and eat. You see what I mean? All right, so it's my turn now. Yes, it's your turn. All right, drive or fly oh, definitely fly.
Speaker 2:I hate driving. Um, yeah, I've, you're coming, you're in? Well, I guess, yeah. Yeah, I'm a comedian, I've never had to fly anywhere. Oh, so I can't. Well, I guess, yeah, I gotta drive everywhere, but I do hate it. I try to get other people to drive.
Speaker 1:Um, wow crazy, I'd rather fly, I'd love flying, so you're not scared of flying, then no, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I actually used to uh, um, pilot hot air balloons, what? Yeah, really. Yeah, it's so fun, it's so beautiful up there. It's so peaceful and calming. It's not windy, because you're going with the wind, so it's like nice and quiet and you can just hear like the whole town and you can see the horizon and the sunset. Oh, it's so, it's beautiful wow man, that's impressive dude.
Speaker 1:That's really cool. Queen Consort she's going to be like oh yeah, she likes hot air balloons. Probably will never ride in one. I like to see them. Most likely will never ever get in one because you're not going to catch my I don't. I'm not that tubby now, but my ass up in a 4x4 box 1,000 feet above the ground. Just not going to happen.
Speaker 2:It's actually safer than you think. It's way safer than driving, I think. Flying a hot air balloon Okay, Statistically, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, how many people.
Speaker 2:For a cap up statistically.
Speaker 1:you know well, yeah, how many people are you gonna get it? You're gonna get it, uh, into a five balloon wreck like there's festivals like down in albuquerque. It's happened before oh yeah, I suppose, yeah, damn. And see, here I'm thinking of this ridiculously silly scenario happening. You're like no man, there's major ridiculousness is true.
Speaker 2:Many people have died. Thanks for making light of it.
Speaker 1:It's not, it's not funny, just ask your question okay, um lazy river or the wave pool oh, hell, no, you can't do that. Do that. I love the wave pool, but also a fat kid almost broke my neck in the wave pool. Really, sincerely, no, yeah, I don't know, the wave was coming, it was on a tube. Yeah, a tube. I'm saying I was the fat kid, I'm sorry. No man. He just slammed right into me like the back of my like head, like yeah yeah, it was, it was bad dang so I don't think of that, and then I'm like lazy river.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna sit there and drink lazy river, probably. Yeah, yeah, lazy river. I'm like Lazy River.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to sit there and drink Lazy River?
Speaker 1:probably. Yeah, yeah, lazy River. All right, wonderful, wonderful Las Vegas, nevada or New Orleans during Mardi Gras.
Speaker 2:Ooh, you know I'm going to have to go with New Orleans because, like I'm going to get so many beads, like I'm going to have to go with New Orleans because, like I'm going to get so many beads, like I'm I'm going to be showing them yeah. Um sounds so fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think you, you definitely have a shot at getting the most beads. Um, yeah, I think you, you got this man.
Speaker 2:You really do oh yeah, sorry um I keep, keep forgetting. Um, okay, I did ask you this last time, but I'm gonna ask it again because it was such, it was a good question stand-up comedy or podcasting?
Speaker 1:damn it. Uh, what did I say last time? Do you know? Probably stand up, it's gonna be stand up. Uh, I do love doing podcasting. I love, I just love. I love this. It's fun, I love having conversations with people that I'm having fun with, uh, and I just like you know, surprisingly enough like talking to people and yeah, I don't know, but stand-ups got it though, because that way I'm like I'm commanding them and they're in front of me.
Speaker 1:Like here I can stay. I'm commanding somebody, but they could be shutting the shit off and not listening. So yeah yeah. So live crowd's way. Better command that shit, rock it out and then don't give a shit like don't care if they I mean, you want them to laugh, but if they're laughing because they're angry or laughing because they're happy, either way it's a laugh. I'm going with stand-up, wow, wow. Ford Mustang or Chevy Camaro.
Speaker 2:Got to be Camaro, because I do not like Fords. I don't like Fords, everything else but a Ford I love. Camaro is a much better car anyways. Mustangs are death tracks. I've owned both.
Speaker 1:Camaro was my first car. I had a Mustang in 2000, 2001, somewhere around there, which I feel was one of the coolest body styles, and then they went all the shit.
Speaker 2:so really you thought, you thought the 2001, 2000 2000.
Speaker 1:I know like like the 60s are badass right, yeah, body style, the mustang fucking awesome. But I'm saying like oh, from from then on and today from then then on, it kind of went down Then in like 2000, 2001, around there, that body style it was kick-ass, and then they went to something shitty, then something shittier, and then they had what they have now, and it's.
Speaker 2:Electric SUV.
Speaker 1:Mustang Yep.
Speaker 2:Crazy, sad, um All right, chinese takeout or hibachi, damn it.
Speaker 1:Hibachi, hibachi. Yeah, I'm going to hoo-hot my ass up, yeah, hibachi.
Speaker 2:If I were to go to like, like hibachi place, um, it would like, it would definitely be. Who hot I freaking, I could spend all day there, yep I love it.
Speaker 1:I've been, I've been losing weight recently and I just told the queen consort I was like, yeah, one of my cheat meals. I think we're gonna go to who hot then? Well, I mean it's not really cheating because there's vegetables and stuff and I'm like, silence woman. We're going to Hoo Hot and it is a cheat meal, damn it.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's better if it's not a cheat meal, you know, because then it makes yourself feel better, Because, like no, you're not cheating.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 2:That's true, that's true. All right. So, cheeseburger or triple cheeseburger, I'm going to go with the triple cheeseburger. Look at me, there's no way I'm not choosing a triple cheeseburger over a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay Okay, chicken sandwich or hamburger.
Speaker 1:Chicken sandwich, always chicken Chicken, on top Chicken turkey, then everything else.
Speaker 2:Turkey. You're a big turkey guy, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:Never pegged you for a turkey guy, I guess.
Speaker 1:Big turkey guy. Yeah, okay, well, I will ask you this one and then you ask the last one, and you know what it is. So, bananas or plantains.
Speaker 2:Bananas, bananas, all day. I don't like warm and mushy, I mean well other things, yeah, I. I don't like warm and mushy, I mean well other things, yeah, but I don't listen to bananas.
Speaker 1:If they're putting an inch of the banana bread, then it's fine.
Speaker 2:That's literally a plantain but like a plant, well like, I've only had plantains when they're like cooked yeah and warm and stuff, yeah and tastes funky, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's just. I think plantains are meant to be cooked and bananas are meant to be not, unless it's put into banana bread, yeah. Or bars, oh, banana bars. Oh. Minnesota banana bars, oh, minnesota Banana bars, bars, bars, oh. I gotta go to the bar there.
Speaker 2:Going to the bars, I might drop off my bagel.
Speaker 1:You know, in my bag, cripers, the new Minnesota term. Cripers, there we go, oh Cripers, oh Cripers. I'm going to start selling that at the Mall of America at the fucking gift shops. Okay, that's where is creepers? Cheaper t-shirts, oh yeah, there we go. Or they could get them at crowdmadecom. Forward, slash collections forward. Slash scolari's pot. All right, man hit me we've come. This is the last one, right and yep, because you got people, got to ask the stupid question.
Speaker 2:Yep, go ahead okay, um dw serene or robert the doll dw.
Speaker 1:Dw took me forever to think about. Yeah, dw, I don't like dolls, but I can tolerate him, so DW wins this one based on toleration follow up question which one is more creepy?
Speaker 1:well, I've never seen Robert the doll order a sprite on the rocks extra, extra spicy. So I mean, I've never seen robert the doll order a sprite on the rocks extra, extra spicy. So I mean, I'm gonna say robert the doll, yeah, extra spicy. Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah, robert doll wins this one. He's, he's it is creepy. Is the sprite on the rocks extra spicy is robert doll's a lot creepier. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's, that's all. That's all I got. That's it. That's all you got that's all I got that's.
Speaker 1:I guess that's all we got. Well, that was this or that and we we did, we did this or that and it actually involved a robert's doll uh question. So that's that's really good, zach, I I want to say thank you for filling in for the dubs it. It it was uh quite different. Maybe, maybe there's a possibility we could have you hop on uh in in a future show and you can be there with all, both of us and and we can uh torment uh the one guest. Yeah, it'd be three on one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, it would be, that'd be awesome, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what that means, do you, I do? You do know what that means, do you, I do? I wonder, if they know what that means, why don't you tell them what it means, what that means? Why don't you tell them what it means, what that means? Well, you guys have been amazing. We have been Scalarius, we are out Laters you.