Scalarious
Frighteningly Funny! Comedians John Olson and DW Surine chat with entertainers, authors and creators about their paranormal experiences, and paranormal experts to back them up! A perfect mixture of paranormal and comedy!
Scalarious
Ep. 83 Ghost Stories and Stand-Up: Leanne Linsky
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What makes us run screaming from harmless haunted houses while ignoring real-life warning signs? Comedian Leanne Linsky joins hosts John Olson and DW Surine for a fascinating exploration of fear perception and our contradictory responses to paranormal versus actual threats.
Linsky recounts being so terrified at her first haunted attraction that she had to escape through a side door, yet notes how we often disregard our instincts in genuinely dangerous situations. Drawing from Gavin de Becker's "The Gift of Fear," the conversation delves into how humans possess natural alarm systems – that prickly feeling on your neck or inexplicable gut sense that something's wrong – which society often conditions us to ignore in favor of politeness, especially for women. Why is believing in ghosts sometimes more socially acceptable than trusting your instincts around suspicious people?
The episode takes entertaining detours through Linsky's comedy journey across major cities, John's childhood haunting that his parents gaslighted him about for years, and a hilarious discussion of a recent viral pigeon stowaway on a commercial flight ("at what point are you so lazy as a bird that you have to hop a plane?").
Linsky also introduces her groundbreaking platform Plauzzable – an online marketplace connecting comedians directly with audiences without algorithms or gatekeepers. This innovation addresses a key dilemma for performers: why would fans pay to see your show when you've already shared your best material for free on social media? With Plauzzable, comedians can monetize virtual performances while building genuine connections with fans.
Whether you're fascinated by the paranormal, passionate about comedy, or simply curious about human psychology, this episode offers thought-provoking insights on trusting your instincts in a world where the scariest things aren't always supernatural.
Show Introduction and Catching Up
Speaker 1Thanks for watching what's going on. This is scolarius, I am john olsen and with me, as always, is dw the debil, a wank wart. I have no idea what it is, but it sounds bad and it would be debilitating and I don't know. But anyway, all right well, thanks again for not selling it, because, lord knows, if he did that it would probably make the show we do in the first five minutes anyway, uh. So what are you drinking, you?
Speaker 2know, today I I'm I'm taking a break from uh alcoholic. I'm just doing a ginger ale tonight.
Speaker 1So look at that, the old shirt is yours.
Speaker 2Do you have one?
Speaker 1oh yeah, I got one bro oh, a joke that. Uh, you know, audio listeners won't audio listeners not here, but but it my diet coke it says bro so, thank you, they know now. So dw, how are things at the serene manor?
Speaker 2you know we um did you guys have a crazy storm yesterday, uh, it rained, maybe the wind blew, I don't know it was.
Speaker 2I mean, it was pretty intense over here, so like not, not like, oh my gosh, the windows are broken, type of you know thing, but it was pretty bad for a you know a couple of minutes. So yeah, it was, that was. And here the reason I bring that up is we actually got stuck out in it. We were a daughter and a friend were out on their bikes and I was like, all right, it's time to go home. And at the time we left it was like it might rain soon and then, like halfway home, it just downpoured and yeah were you screaming for auntie m?
Speaker 1no okay, very good, I'm glad, um, but no, we didn't get much. It wasn't it same as every other time you ever asked about a storm. It didn't hit us. So and it's weird because we live not that far away from each other, right, right. But you know, there's been times I've seen things where it rains across the street and not in front of the house. Kind of a weird thing, but whatever, dw, I don't know if you've seen this, but I'm going to let you know I've recently taken up jogging.
Speaker 2I did see that. Yeah, I didn't see the actual jogging, but I heard you talking about it.
Speaker 1For somebody who was dead and uh was told he wasn't going to leave the hospital without oxygen. I think it's pretty badass that I can run and run long, longish distances you're, you're working up to it.
Speaker 2I mean, you can't expect to to run a marathon tomorrow if you haven't been training for it, so you gotta, you gotta, work up to that no, I agree, I I am gonna run a 5k this summer, oh do you know, like when or where yet, or just want to do a 5k I, I don't know yet.
Speaker 1I think it's it'll probably be a fun run or some type of thing like that, but I am in it to win it. But there are people that are going to be way more experienced than me, so, um, but I am, I am, I train, train by just running every day and every day I just increase my distance just a little bit more and, uh, I'm not sucking wind. So, like I said, yeah, it's pretty badass.
Speaker 2I'm, I'm planning I would like to find a 5k that allows dogs and take, uh, one of the dogs on a 5k and see if that actually wears her out, because it takes a lot to wear out the hellhounds of serene manner, yeah, and I wonder if 5k is what would do it. You know, I kind of have a feeling we'd get to the end of the 5k and she'd be like all right, let's keep going. Where are we going now?
Speaker 1it's pretty much. It'd be really funny if you were the one carrying her the whole time, like she's no, no she'd probably pull me like you're going too slow, come on, keep up, type of thing it's a wiener schnitzel, so I mean, can't really pull you no, not not the small one, clover the bigger one she's yeah all right, I can see it.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, she'll keep running forever. She'll run the new york. Yeah, yeah, pretty much, um, yeah, so that that's the thing started the whole running thing, uh, other stuff going. Oh, I am gonna say this okay, I I have kept it uh kind of tight close to the vest and everything, and I gave all you listeners like this little thing where I was like oh, something big, something big, and you'll know, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1Okay, so, um, just want to let you know that I did use me in the future okay so, um, basically it was to be part of a reboot of some show on the history channel that had to do with paranormal, so it would have been a great opportunity to get my name out there, which, by the way, I don't know it. Um, our our guest this week, this today, is is a comedian, so I'm going to ask her a little bit later on, but I want to know this. Like it's always been one of my goals to make it to network tv you know, yeah, as a comedian.
Speaker 1So I was kind of wondering if it was the history channel show, if I got that and I was on there, would that check that box? Or does that specifically mean for comedy? Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2it's a good question. Yeah, because if you're on tv for well, any exception, like attempted murder or something I was gonna say, if you're on an episode of cops, because I mean I can see it happening you know, you're uh uh in vegas a lot so yeah, does that count as a tv appearance, you know right right.
John's Running Journey and TV Dreams
Speaker 1So depends on where your level of fame is like infamous, yeah, probably. Uh kind of famous, and most likely not, I don't, I don't know. But yeah, so that was the thing. Obviously they decided to not go with me. So, uh, I just want to say thank you for uh, if, if they're, if anybody's listening from there uh, thank you for the opportunity to at least screen test and all that stuff for it. Uh, it was a lot of fun. It's been a lifelong dream of mine. I used to, and it's it's experience.
Speaker 2You know it's experience in going through that part of the process.
Speaker 1So yeah, and, like I said, it was a lifelong dream. I remember back in the day Well, I mean maybe I was a little bit older, probably 10, 11 or whatever Watching like Saved by the Bell. I could do that, I could do that, you know so. But yeah, so maybe someday I don't know, I'm not 50 yet so maybe by the time I'm 50, I'll get that acting slash TV gig and things will be whatever. Because you know they say, I don't care what kind of religion or whatever you are, if you ask for it enough and you're genuine about it, you will get it in time, not your time, the universe's time and or God's time.
Speaker 2That was kind of our message last episode.
Speaker 1Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2It was. I mean in terms of paranormal. We brushed on that a little bit, but only because.
Speaker 1And Lorraine Warren. I mean they were in and you know she is a medium and she did talk about like ghosts she did, yeah, but we we segued into relationship stuff which became, which was very interesting. It was interesting, but the most I I have to say the most interesting thing was her description of like everything.
Speaker 1We've had a lot of psychic mediums out here and they they didn't get that deep, you know what I mean I was sitting there like at points, just speechless, because I'm like, wow, that is just incredible on how they did that. You know what I mean, like how she described every little thing that she was seeing. Like people are articulate, you know, like when they talk and things like that. But just I, that was I, top notch. I'm just gonna say, yeah, I I not to disparage anybody else that's ever been on, but that was, uh, yeah, there was. It was very, very descriptive, uh yeah. And speaking of those that have been on, they know where to find us, right, they do, but the listeners might not know where to find us, but I'll just let them know.
Speaker 1They can find you, dw, at DW Serene Comedian on Facebook. You can find me at John Olson Comedian 2.0 on Facebook. You can find us both together on Facebook, but we're not a couple. No, we are not a couple together on Facebook, but we're not a couple. No, we are not a couple. But also you can find us on TikTok at Scalarious8. You know the rest of that part, you know, whatever. And we do have an Instagram, it is called Scalarious.
Speaker 1If you want to reach out to us and send a nice email, maybe one that doesn't end with an expletive. Maybe you could just send out nice email, maybe one that doesn't end with an expletive. Maybe you could just send out something nice to me for once. That would be great. You could do that at sclarispod, at gmailcom or, if you want to and only if you want to you can go back and listen to every single episode that we have at sclarispod dot buzzbuzzsproutcom, and you know, if they're doing that, they're going and they're listening to every single episode that we have. Most likely they're fans, right most of them yeah, they're fans.
Speaker 1So and what do fans do? Fans, you know they go, like you've gone to concerts, right dw? Yeah yeah, you go to concerts because you like the band, right? Not just because you just want to go right. So when you're at the concert, even though it costs literally 85, you get a t-shirt, right sometimes yeah yeah, zz top van halen, whatever band, not van hagar, but either way, like you get, you get your stuff have you been to a concert since the 80s, or van halen and zz top, those are the.
Speaker 2That was the last concert you went to elton john technically okay, still senior, but okay yeah that's.
Speaker 1It's been a while I haven't had a whole lot of money. I do podcasts Just throwing it out there, okay. But anyway, if you're a fan, you go and you purchase the merch, right, you can do that for Scalarius too. Did you know that, dw? You know that?
Speaker 1I can do oh yeah, yeah, you can do that for Scalarius the peoples, the peoples, they. Oh yeah, yeah, you can do that for Scolarius the peoples, the peoples, they can do that for Scolarius. They can go to crowdmadecom forward slash collections, forward slash Scolarius pod, or just go to crowdmadecom and search Scolarius and you can get a whole lot of merch. Dw. We have cups, we have hats for both winter and summer, spring, I don't know. I don't wear a hat in the summer because I obviously shave my head, but then it's too damn hot because 90% of your heat escapes from your head. A little bit of science there. Didn't think you'd get that on Squares, did you? You can get hats, t-shirts oh, the T-shirts DW. What's your favorite T-shirt?
Speaker 2I don't know who John Olsen is.
Speaker 1I have no idea who John Olsen is.
Speaker 2I have no idea who John Olsen is.
Speaker 1I knew that would be yours. Mine is O'Criper's, because DW says that literally every episode.
Speaker 2No, I don't.
Speaker 1Well, you do, but maybe not.
Speaker 2No, I really don't okay, anyway and there's a t-shirt that says it.
Speaker 1That's the weird part yeah, whatever people, people like, what people like and and you know what else we have, dw, you know this. We have pet bowls and we have leashes and collars and and these leashes and collars hear me out, guys they can be used for dogs, they could be used for cats, they could be used for hamsters, if you wanted to, they could be used for guinea pig, maybe a turtle maybe you want to take your slow ass turtle on a walk. Maybe you can use that, or I don't know what your thing is. I, I don't know, it's none of my business, but maybe, maybe you can use this leash and or collar on your significant other. I don't know what your thing is, I don't know, it's none of my business, but maybe you can use this leash and or collar on your significant other, I don't know, in the bedrooms you can do all of that stuff. You find it all at crowdmadecom and just search Scalarius. All that, you can have it all.
Speaker 1What do you think DW? Yeah, I think they should. I think they should. And do what do you think dw should? Yeah, I think they should. I think they should. And do you think we should? Maybe get on with the show? We should. Okay, dw looks tired. All right, so we will. We're gonna do that exact thing.
Speaker 1You know one thing I had a comedian on as a guest host a couple weeks back, you know, or actually for the last two weeks, but but we haven't had a comedian on our show for quite some time and everybody should know that the basis for this show was to literally ask comedians about paranormal shit while they were on the road and and things like that. And then we just kind of like went we grew into asking everybody about the paranormal and became the comedy. So or we well, we were the comedy from the get from the gecko, but that's whatever. So we're going to bring another comedian on this comedian listen. All right, she's from seattle, washington. She is the founder of Plausible right and a very funny comedian, leanne Linsky. Leanne, welcome to Scalarious, how are you tonight?
Speaker 3Thank you, thanks for having me Excited to be here.
Speaker 1That's awesome. We don't get very many excited to be here. We get some people that are like, well, I mean, you just begged enough and finally it happened.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's kind of my go-to Story of my life. I get it.
Speaker 1So how are things?
Speaker 3Things are going well. Things are going well. As you said, I'm here in Seattle. I've actually only been in Seattle since 2021.
Speaker 1Oh nice.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Not too soon. Where were you before?
Speaker 3So before Seattle I was in California, in Long Beach, outside of LA, and then before that. So I was there for about eight or so years and then before that I lived in New York City for about nine years, yep, and before that I was in Vegas for 16. Wow, for about nine years, yep, and before that I was in vegas for 16, but I grew up in chicagoland, yeah okay, first of all, I just want to put this out there you have literally lived in every single favorite city.
Speaker 1I've never been in new york. I want to go, never, dw. I've never been in new york.
Speaker 2Really.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3It's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1I love living there, I want to go. But you lived in Vegas, you're from Chicagoland. Like, oh, that is just Chicago. Every time I even see a picture of Chicago on TV, I blow a kiss. I love that city. Love it, that's where I'm supposed to be. I swear to God. And then Long Beach, that city, love it, that's where I'm supposed to be. I swear to god. But um, and then long beach. I I spent summers at well whatever in long beach when I was younger, because my grandmother lived out there. So yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean I kind of ended up. Never knew that's kind of like I would end up in those places, but you know life has been weird, so so, yeah, it's been a a wild ride.
Speaker 1Well that's awesome, since, I mean, you brought up Long Beach, you lived there. So let me ask you this have you ever been to the Queen Mary? Yes, yes, I have okay, and when you were there, was it there to spend the night? Was it there there just tour Like I did?
Speaker 3the tour. I didn't spend the night because we lived like right there, so but it did seem a little creepy and I don't know. I guess people claim that they've seen ghosts when they've stayed there, right. Yeah, and that it is haunted. I believe that there's got to be. Also, I wonder how involved is the staff in haunting?
Speaker 2the residents.
Speaker 3I often think like well, now that we're talking about it, I'm thinking about it, but I think that kind of gives them free license to make it more interesting, right.
Introducing Guest Leanne Linsky
Speaker 1Yeah, wow, I guess I never really thought about that. I, you know, I've stayed in two haunted hotels my entire life. One of them was, uh, the bullock hotel, which is in deadwood, south dakota, and the other one I can never remember the name and it makes me so mad because it was amazing. It was, um, uh, airbnb essentially, but it was massive and it had like a ballroom and there was a restaurant downstairs and it was really really cool, uh, and it was part of history like, um, the building itself. It had a sub-basement in.
Speaker 1That sub-basement was part of the underground railroad oh, wow yeah, so this place in fort madison, iowa, which is literally the penis tip of iowa, it's way down there, um, right on the border of illinois and uh, missouri, yeah, so, but, uh, yeah, it was. It was pretty cool those those two, and in those places I can honestly say the staff had nothing to do with anything. But again, you have to know the bullock hotel is haunted. You know, you'd have to know it from an outside source because I mean, yes, it was on, um, I think it was on unsolved mysteries or something. At one point they always play a tape or like a video or whatever at the hotel. Uh, but it was there. But uh, the I guess the crew and everything they don't really interact and try to spook you or anything but hmm, that you know of, like they could do it without you knowing that it's so.
Speaker 3there's a theater in tacoma, washington, and so we went to see a comedy show there and they had this like lounge upstairs, which really wasn't a lounge. It was they were experimenting with using this open hallway. But while we were up there we learned that apparently there it is haunted and that sometimes people in the audience will see like a ghost-like figure on stage and occasionally weird things happen in the room different rooms, not on stage but behind the scenes in the theater like things will fall off the walls and break and things like that. So apparently and I guess if you go to the website, there is the story about who's haunting the theater well, that's really cool.
Speaker 1Uh, who'd you go see there?
Speaker 3you said you want to go see his comedy show yeah, we went to see colin jost oh wow, I knew dwbr yeah good yeah, yeah, and then a couple of the writers from snl were opening for him. That was a really great show, but I didn't see a ghost. But I could see it was pretty old theater. I could see where that could be likely. The elevators weren't working, so maybe that had something to do with it.
Speaker 3And we had to go five flights of stairs and then we got to the bottom of the stairs. After the show they're like oh, we didn't tell you the elevators are working again wow, that's messed up.
Speaker 1Yeah, colin joe's like maybe I'm, I don't know, I think I'm out of the loop or whatever. Was he a comedian before he? Or improv comic or I mean how?
Speaker 3so he was a comedy writer, he he did comedy writing in college, he was part of the writers group at Harvard and everything, and then he was just always a really good writer.
Speaker 1So yeah, and I believe he did improv as well since you're a comic and we don't get to ask comedians questions what like you?
Speaker 3would you consider yourself a better writer or performer? You personally, I, I don't know. That's a hard question. I guess it depends on the day. If I bomb, I I'm like, oh, definitely a better writer. And then there's days where it's like maybe I should just go yuck it up. But sometimes I think I would. Just, I don't know if I'm better. Well, I guess I'm a better writer.
Speaker 1Okay, dw, how about you I?
Speaker 2I don't write as often as I should. Um, I do feel like when I I I'm gonna go with performer, because I feel like I a lot of times, what I'm doing on stage is not so much what I've written, but it is improv, and sometimes I'm even kind of changing slightly what I've written before you know, based on the audience reaction, and I'm interacting with the audience and stuff like that. So I would say performer because I feel like, well, I don't know what, what do you consider improv? Do you consider improv performing or do you consider it writing on the spot?
Speaker 3yeah, that's a great question and the other thing is like when you say performer, I also did acting, and in that case I'm a better stand-up comedian than I am performer in the sense of acting. So that also plays into my answer of like all the writing I don't know. So, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1It's hard to say I understand, I, you know, honestly, uh, I don't know how to answer that for myself. And what I mean by that is like I don't think anybody else could perform the jokes that I write, those jokes that I how it's not so much, it's the delivery, and only I know how to do that delivery. So I DW what do you think of that? I don't know.
Speaker 2Well, I think it depends on the comedian, because I feel like there are some comedians like Stephen Wright, I think is the king of one-liners. And if you were to just read what Stephen Wright is saying, if you were to just read off of a script his jokes, it would still be hilarious, right On the flip side, someone like Brian Regan. If you were to do that, if you were to just read his jokes, it wouldn't come off the same way. It's all in his delivery. The way he delivers his material is very animated and very um, the performance based yeah, give me one of your jokes I oh three, okay, no just to say on here so I can deliver it.
Speaker 3No, I'm not gonna steal your joke.
Speaker 1No no, no, I was joking. No, but give me, like, share a joke in the chat and then I'll deliver it.
Speaker 3I'm not going to steal your joke, no, no, no, I was joking, no, but give me, like share, a joke in the chat and then I'll deliver it.
Speaker 2Oh, let me see if I can think of, but I'm trying to. You got to think of a short. Oh, do your opener John.
Speaker 1You want my? Ok, you want me to. I don't know if I can type that. Hold on, I can try. Yeah, it's gonna keep the conversation going because me doing like okay, we'll keep the conversation going.
Speaker 3So what? Why you type that? So one of the things I heard you say, uh, in your intro tonight is, or today, is that, uh, you don't know what counts as a TV credit, right Like if you go on a paranormal show or something. So great question, right Like I remember what if?
Speaker 1I just like, will that tick my box as being Nah, nah.
Speaker 3And I'm going to answer that by telling you, no, I don't think so. And well, depending on the credit, I mean you could. So it kind of gets you there, like when I lived in New York. If you are on Law and Order, that kind of checked that box, right, right so, but I got on the show on National Geographic, on Nat Geo. Have you watched the show Brain Games? Yeah, it got me nothing, right. That would would be right that would be a non non check of a box.
Speaker 2So well, and I'm thinking of like when you see a headliner and they give their credentials there. They're saying tonight show correct um comedy central hbo. If you put history channel on there, they're gonna people are gonna say well, what's the connection between history and a?
Speaker 3comedian. So like on your resume. You could put it on your acting or your performer resume, but it really to show like if I were to show a casting director for another show, like you have experience being on set, that's helpful, but to be introduced as, hey, you've seen this comedian on Nat Geo, they would be like what Right?
Speaker 2right.
Speaker 3And then you know, but then if you saw me on Brain Games it might humor you. So I don't know, probably not. Yeah. So yeah, it really should be comedy relevant to make a difference for an intro or to get a spot in a club or to get passed. Yeah, but, if you're, if you're looking to book other television work, put it on your resume so that they know you have on set.
Speaker 1Maybe I can throw this like in there. It would have said host of the paranormal and comedy podcast scolarius, like in the title. So yes, yeah so therefore the comedy credit is there technically right, because it will I mean well but I.
Speaker 2The other thing is she's saying that the history channel may not be a good comedy credit, but the history channel may get you to a different show and that might be your comedy right.
Speaker 3It depends on are you using this credit in an intro at a stand-up show or are you using this on your your performer resume? Right, yeah right, like because a fan isn't going to be looking at your resume. That's something you give an agent, a manager, a casting director or something like that, and that's where you would put it well, and also depending on the show, you might reference the show rather than the station yeah or the because like I want to say umunk History was on the History Channel, but that was a hilarious show.
Speaker 2You're not going to say I was on the History Channel. You're going to say you might remember him from Drunk History.
Speaker 3There you go. Yes, yeah, it's exactly making it relevant to what you're doing.
Speaker 1All right. Well, that's fair, okay, all right.
Speaker 3I've got to put my readers on and they look like they're tinted yellow. I don't know what it is. Okay, so okay. Hey. Hitting the stage is such a rush maybe comparable to having sex.
Speaker 1Only now I expect laughter she liked it ah I mean either way, apparently I'm getting silence, so no, I was sitting there thinking I'm like, okay, it's not I didn't know.
Speaker 1No, that it's it's. It's just different writing it down or typing it, because I'm playing it in my head and I'm also going to like, I'm like I'll just do the bit and everybody else can hear it and hopefully somebody laughs. So it is basically um, you know, my name is John Olson. I'm like I'll just do the bit and everybody else can hear it and hopefully somebody laughs. So it is basically you know, my name is John Olson. I say hi, yeah, you didn't write that down.
Speaker 3So, just say the two lines, bro.
Speaker 1Bro, hitting the stage is such a rush, maybe comparable to having sex Only now I expect laughter.
Speaker 2No laughter. No, no, that's not how you usually do it. You cared way too much in that delivery. You need to too much motivation. Yeah, he gets up there he's like uh, this is such a rush, maybe comparable to having sex okay, so you wrote it with an exclamation point. You're already setting me up to fail, because clearly you're not delivering it with an exclamation right, yeah, you're delivering it with a yawn what's the opposite of an exclamation point, because that's how he delivers it frown face emoji.
Speaker 3Bro, I'm gonna call you bro for the rest of this podcast, because that's what your soda can says yeah, there you go, in case nobody knows now? Had you not put the explanation there? Be like oh, hitting the sage is such a rush, it's like having sex.
Speaker 1Both are met with laughter see that right there, like she did pretty close. That's basically.
Speaker 2I mean not 100 my delivery, but yeah, that's how I, that's how I go and, and one of these days we have been talking about john and I switching material and I think that would be hilarious for me to do his jokes, and the thing is, what I would actually do is um, well, we've been talking about would it be funny to have one of us go on first and the other do try and do the exact same thing, and then I would change his punchlines, and if I got more laughter, that would be even more gratifying. To be like see, that's what you should have said.
Speaker 1I don't know, I like having fun with it, you know it's. I think it'd be amazing to literally go up and do the same material, like just complete the same, like Carlos Mencia and whatnot Just go up there and do exactly the same material.
Speaker 2There was one time at a roast I can't remember who it was for, but Ice Cube got up, did some pretty raunchy stuff. Gilbert Godfrey got up, did the same stuff in his delivery and he was like see, you already heard it and you're still laughing at it. I wish I could remember who it was, because that was. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1That was Gilbert Gottfried, though he can make anybody like.
Speaker 2There's another one. You're talking about difference between rain and delivery. Obviously, gilbert, that's all his delivery, everything is funny. That's Gilbert Gottfried All right Leanne, Now that we've successfully derailed this conversation.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's what we do. That's what I do.
Speaker 1If we didn't derail, people would be disappointed. They'd be like what's this boring ass show without all the derail?
Speaker 3It's like a train going through Ohio, oh hell Wow.
Speaker 1it's like a train going through ohio. Oh, hell wow too soon.
Speaker 3Are you in ohio? Where are you guys? You're in tornadoville we're in minnesota.
Speaker 1He was in ohio though you're from ohio I'm of iowa. There's a big difference.
Speaker 2Oh, I mixed them up One starts with O. They're both boring, I didn't, yeah, no, I know.
Haunted Houses and Chicago's Spooky Spots
Speaker 1But one of them has cornfields and the other one has LeBron James, and I don't or at least did, and I'm not into that. So Iowa is where it's from. So, leanne, you know, tell us about some stories. I would assume you have some ghost stories, right. You have some spooky stuff that's happened to you and then we're going to get into your fun well business that you have and I'm sure anybody who is a comic is going to want to hear this, anyway, of course, what do you have for some ghost stories? Some spooky stuff, some chill.
Speaker 3I've been to the first haunted house I ever went to. I was so scared they had to get me out of there, Like I couldn't even go through the whole haunted house.
Speaker 1Like a haunted house, like a haunted attraction.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Oh wow.
Speaker 3So I grew up outside of chicago, so friends from chicago, please don't hate me.
Speaker 3Uh, 45 minutes out of chicago, in walkigan, where jack benny is from if you're in a comedy, you know jack benny used to be on the radio famous comedian oh yeah I went to jack benny junior high, so, uh, so I grew up in waukegan and and if you're not from chicago it's easier to say, uh, waukegan is kind of near chicago, so you're good enough, right? Um, but anyway, in waukegan there was the old jc's library and it was closed. I can't even remember in my childhood when it was actually open. So back in the 70s everything kind of closed started closing up and they opened a mall, so all the downtown business went to the mall right. So the downtown kind of became a ghost town, if you will, and because you know, everything closed up and so then that old library had been down there and that's like really what I think of it as like the old Ghostbusters building. You know when I looked at it.
Speaker 3That's kind of the vibe it had, you know, it kind of had the ornate architecture and everything outside and it was always boarded up. Well, when I was in junior high I think it was, you know, 13, 14, going into high school my friend Jory wanted to go to the JC's haunted house. So every year they would end up putting a haunted house on in there in this old, abandoned library and it was all lit up like backlit and it was really dark and creepy. And so I went in and people were jumping out with chainsaws and all that kind of stuff. The first five minutes I thought I was going to die. I was crying, I was such a little baby and I had to go out the side door and my friend Jory was like what? And she ended up going through the whole thing. She was super cool. I, on the other hand, was not. I was terrified and I had to go hang out with Jory's mom while we waited for her to get out. That was my first haunted house.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was in Waukegan.
Speaker 3Yeah, that was crazy. I still wouldn't go in there even today. It's a creepy old building. I mean maybe during the day if they open it up and let some light in, but yeah, I think I'd still be scared.
Speaker 1Well, since you were talking about Chicago and around there. I, you know, I just happened to be. I looked up something and it's 11 of the most haunted areas in Chicago and I'm going to ask you about these places and see if you've ever been there or heard of them. Okay, all right, the Iroquois Theater?
Speaker 3Nope, ask you about these places and see if you've ever been there or heard of them.
Speaker 1Okay, all right. The iroquois theater nope it's not I don't think so.
Speaker 3This is a long time ago too, okay, yep um.
Speaker 1So the it's now the james m nenderlander theater, but I think I've been there okay, all right.
Speaker 3All right, the other one, hh holmes murder castle which, by the way, I think it would be amazing to go to. Is this someone I dated? I've been to many a man's murder castle oh, my god, uh, that is freaking hilarious.
Speaker 1Uh no, he was a the first american serial killer, I'm pretty sure, and there was a lot of like people thought that maybe he was jack the ripper who came to america. I don't know, but anyway.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm probably cross paths. Ran with the same crowd.
Speaker 1The Couch Mausoleum and Lincoln Park. I know you've been to Lincoln Park.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, missed that.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 3I go nowhere.
Speaker 1Chicago Water Tower.
Speaker 3No, I have not been to the Haunted Water Tower.
Speaker 2The Water Tower is haunted.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right on Michigan Avenue.
Speaker 3I don't know, Maybe it's my aura that's been protecting me.
Speaker 1Congress Plaza Hotel.
Speaker 3Nope, no Congress, no Plaza. Hotel, hotel that's like three things. That's not even one thing, that's like three. That's a multi-functional building yeah, it's, it's okay.
Speaker 1Site of the eastland river.
Speaker 3Disaster on the chicago river nope, nope, maybe, and I didn't know it, I don't know the drake hotel oh, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1I had a client who performed there oh really, yeah, yeah yeah, that was like, uh, one of the things he wanted to do and he ended up doing that, which is really exciting that's pretty awesome and obviously you know, the only reason I even know the drake hotel was from mission impossible, the movie the first one, because he's like bible from the drake hotel in chicago, yeah that's so good yeah, that's uh, graceland cemetery.
Speaker 1I stay away from cemeteries. What? Why? They're amazing. They're so cool. Amazing Me and the Queen concert. We walk through cemeteries all the time. Actually, when we go to find a place to walk or whatever it's, usually we'll find a cemetery Sight of the St Valentine's Day Massacre.
Speaker 3Okay, so funny story. The short answer is no longer. Answer is valentine's day. So my first husband proposed to me on valentine's day, and my second husband and I got married the day after not the same year, that would be very weird, but so valentine's day is kind of a massacre for me.
Speaker 2So I'm done with that, so no isn't the the, the sites now like in because just blaze right over that.
Speaker 3Nothing, you got nothing, laying it out there, being vulnerable, and you guys are like anyway, back to the cemetery like about that, like unless you're in utah, because you could marry two different people the day.
Speaker 2I just thought she got engaged to the one, but decided to marry someone else the following day no, I married both of them, just different years oh, there you go, uh not, not the 90s were busy not consecutive years no, no, a few years I thought that would have been pretty, uh, yeah no, I think.
Speaker 1Well, I don't know. I've uh, me and my future wife. Um, let me see here. My divorce was in, I think, 18 or 19. We're going on seven years. I feel it's a pretty good gap. How long was the gap between your first and second?
Speaker 3Two years, did you say future ex-wife?
Speaker 1No, no, wow, Hopefully that don't happen.
Speaker 2Future ex -wife, not future ex -wife yeah well you don't know, you, you can't you don't.
Speaker 3You don't know, it could be your future ex-wife.
Speaker 2The psychic the other day didn't disclose that part, so it could have been, you know how come? Maybe she didn't want to let him down and say I don't see good things happening here.
Speaker 3Well, that's true, because then you wouldn't do it and then it wouldn't be true. Right, maybe it's your destiny.
Speaker 1I sure the hell hope not. It better not be my destiny to get married and divorced multiple times.
Speaker 3Yeah, zero stars Do not recommend.
Speaker 1Is there a Yelp rating for that? I I need to get on there, I do. Yeah, I have some. I have some people to yelp yes, yelp, yelp yeah, a lot of one stars or zeros along my path there, right, yes, the jane adams whole house, the Jane Adams Hole House.
Speaker 3No, is he a cheesemaker?
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 3Was he Swiss?
Speaker 2Maybe, I was thinking of a different hole.
Speaker 3I tried to keep it clean. I tried to keep it gouda, oh, Hang on where's?
Speaker 1the yeah that's the no. That's like a there we go. That was basically a norm mcdonald joke.
Speaker 2I like that yeah well, no norm mcdonald was. Take five minutes to get to that joke to get to that punchline he was a good one, though.
Speaker 1I love there's a joke that he tells and I may tell it at the end of the show. But there's a joke because there's no reason why we can't, we'll just tell it until we get out. But yeah, there's a joke that he tells that I tell all the time which one. No, no, no, no, no, Not in my set or anything Well.
Speaker 2I know no, but which joke are you talking about? Of his?
Speaker 1It's a joke about Polish Great.
Speaker 3I'm Polish.
Speaker 1Are you? So is my queen consort, so that's why it's so funny have you, so is my queen consort, so that's why it's so funny.
Speaker 2I like his. Have you heard his moth joke?
Speaker 1Yeah. That's my favorite of his. There's so many Poor guy. Rest in peace. He was amazing. He's not here, but we should probably talk to Leanne Just throwing it out there. All right, so you got the shit scared out of you in Waukegan, Waukegan yeah. What happened from there? Did you just go and start?
Speaker 3I decided I wasn't going to do that. But in high school I went to some, some scary parties which, hindsight being what it is, probably much scarier in real life than that haunted house yeah you know, I wouldn't be the host of this show if I didn't ask why you would say that like what makes you like?
Speaker 1give me some examples of the scariness that would happen at those parties not so much what happened at them but what happened after that.
Speaker 3And you'd read in the paper what maybe someone else at the the party had done oh okay, wow left the party, yeah right, and it's like, okay, that was crazy.
Speaker 3And then my mom's like maybe you need to not go out with some of these friends or people, yeah. So yeah, like sometimes, sometimes real life is scarier than the things we don't know. Do you ever think about that? Like ghost, scary right. Sometimes wondering like superstition can be scary, right. But then here we ignore things that we instinctively know are trouble. Do you ever notice that?
Speaker 1like what explain? What do you mean?
Speaker 3so like uh, so so like I can be superstitious, I'm not gonna walk under a ladder or the like. A couple weeks ago, a black cat literally ran out in front of my car and I was like, do I need to turn around and go the other way, right?
Speaker 3do you think about those things like oh god what's gonna happen now, you know, and then or things come in threes and so you wait for like two other bad things to happen. You're like there they are, knew it was going to happen. So like, whether that's true or coincidence I don't know, but if you ever read, uh, the book the Gift of Fear by Gavin DeBecker, so it's all about so. So, first of all, the author was an expert witness on the prosecuting side of the OJ Simpson trial and he often gets called in when celebrities have stalkers or presidents have assassination threats and things like that, because he can determine if it's a real threat or not, and he's an expert in it. He grew up in a very abusive household and he learned at a very young age to know when his mom was actually going to act on her threat versus just threaten the kids, and he figured it out in like the word choice that she had and how the message was delivered. So, anyway, he wrote this book.
Speaker 3It's called A Gift of Fear and it's not. It's kind of weird because it's. It's all like how we as humans, have this animal instinct built into us to alert us when we're in actual trouble, right Like the hair on your neck stands up, or you kind of get that gut feeling like I kind of knew something was off but I couldn't put my finger on it. All of those things are there to tell us like danger, danger, something's wrong. And especially in women, because in society we don't want to come off, as you know, like being a bitch, right, we want, we don't want to like being a a bitch right, we want, we, we don't want to. We, we kind of we were like, oh, don't be that or don't be so, um, you know, like just ignore it and don't, don't let them think you're judging them or something right so like when a man approaches us, but in all the chapters it talks about how women know like instinctively they'll.
Speaker 3We of societal norms, we are taught to not listen to our instincts because we don't want to come off as crazy, whereas really our instincts are telling us to run or we're in danger or this person's going to hurt us, and so it talks about all of those things. So when I think and we have these conversations about the paranormal, it's interesting because we can lean into these theories and beliefs of like the paranormal and be like, yeah, that's really creepy, that spooky haunted house. I know that it's like set up that way to be that way on Halloween, but what if they're really ghosts? Or what if you know? Like there's all of these things and they are probably less likely to be an actual threat than real life. But in real life I'll, I'll ignore my instincts and in these instances, um, you know, I'm like get me out of here. It's a haunted house that's totally monitored by normal people and everything and I gotta get out of there.
Speaker 1So it's just kind of interesting like one can be perceived to be so much more threatening than than real danger well, the funny thing about that and very ironic part is that you know you said in fear of acting crazy, you know, like, ah, running away. That is more of a logical reason than people who believe and or hunt ghosts. So think about this the societal norms would make you, or a woman whatever, believe that you're crazy because you're screaming in in some man's face and running away. But ironically enough, the ghost hunting and the believing in the paranormal and all that stuff is it can be viewed as crazy.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, right that's, that's nuts to me, because it it wow.
Speaker 3It honestly doesn't make any sense, not at all but if I were to run away screaming ghost, I would probably people. Some people might think I'm crazy. But you, as ghost hunters or believers in the uh, paranormal, would be like of course you're gonna run away from those things, right? So like it's real to some, not real to others, a kind of in real life it's real to some but not perceived real to others. So but so. But our societal, our societal norms dictate to us how we should react, not how we, not how our bodies would instinctively react to danger.
Speaker 1You, you, you brought up ghost hunters not running from ghosts.
Speaker 3They do.
Speaker 1The most popular ghost hunter in the world has been seen running out of buildings more than any. Zach Baggins, I mean. Say what you want about Zach Baggins and I will, but he is legitimately the most. He's the most popular ghost hunter in the world. He's just a drama queen that's awesome.
Speaker 3No, it's also good for his brand. Like I would want to watch that because that would be interesting and see, maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 1It's all brand, it's all marketing, that's what he's doing, and he's got me talking about it, even though he probably won't ever hear it, and if he did, it would be awesome, that's all yeah, he's also ouija boards.
Speaker 3Have you guys ever played around with ouija boards?
Speaker 1I've never played with one dw. We talked about this. We had a whole episode on this we talked about this. We had a whole episode on this.
Speaker 2We talked about it because I I don't, I'm not into the paranormal stuff to begin with, and I think John's view was kind of the same as a lot of other people have basically said you don't want to encourage that. I mean, you're John, you say it better than me, but you don't want to invite that. You want people or you want the spirits or whatever to come naturally if they want to be there, but you don't want to do something specifically to entice them.
Speaker 1No, cause you're not going to. You don't know who you're going to pull through that thing and that's I mean, that's the bottom line with the bottle anything that's ghost hunting equipment that we use to talk or anything like that. You know, um, when we are doing evp sessions or you use a ghost box and things like that, when you're talking directly to them, asking them questions and everything, you are opening a door and it's basically the same door, uh, as in a ouija board. But the ouija board has a lot more it. It's got a bad name to it. I guess, I don't know, it's a kid's game parker brother made it up.
Speaker 3You know, like it well, that's what I'm wondering. What do you think about it being sold as a game for kids?
Speaker 1you can get. Get it right now. I don't know if you have Five Below over there on the West Coast, but it's a possibility. You can get a Ouija board at Five Below. It's a store.
Speaker 3I don't know that we have it here, but I know what you're talking about it's $5.
Speaker 1They're literally flying off the shelf and I don't know Like. I think it's.
Speaker 3Wait a minute. Are they flying off the shelf? Flying off the shelf? I don't know.
Speaker 1Well, I don't know if the former is happening, but the latter they are. Most people are buying the shit out of them. That's. That's what's happened.
Speaker 3Yeah, so what do you think about them being sold to kids if they're dangerous? Because that's the only time I've ever used them was like slumber parties when someone would pull out the Ouija board.
Speaker 1So anything? Well, let's talk about that. You used it at slumber parties. Did anything happen?
Speaker 3yeah, we were just a bunch of giggly kids laughing about it and someone you know, we figured someone's always pushing the you know to do that. So was it done accurately? I don't know. Was it a little creepy, sure, you know, but it was also fun. I don't remember, and also it was so long ago so I guess a lot of my experience was when I was a kid. Does that explain today? Like maybe?
Speaker 1I grew up in a haunted house, so I mean, look at me.
Speaker 3I mean I'm not, yeah, wait you grew up in a haunted house yeah, yep who is it haunted by? I?
Speaker 1don't know, I have no idea you don't know.
Speaker 3You never asked did you have like someone come by and do a thing?
Speaker 1No, no, no, that was way before, no, when I grew up. That was way before that, and it was a time of gaslighting by our parents too. You probably know this. Like nothing ever really happened, right, like nothing ever really. Nope, never seen it, nope, never heard of it. Nope, none of that. So I'm a nutty ass kid who's seeing people every day. You know, uh, you know, a woman, and there was two I two that I know of.
Speaker 3It was a man, hey, were you asking your dad did you see those two women? And he's like nope, didn't see a thing. I guess could explain a lot right, let's, let's go a little bit into this they, uh, yeah, they.
Speaker 1They never admitted to it. And then it was months back, maybe a year ago. I talked to my mom about it and, uh, she just laughed and I was like man, it's just, you know, the fact that she laughed about it knows that she was, you know, lying her ass off for 18 years and saying that nothing was happening when it was, and their poor, their poor son, their poor little boy had to sit there and and be haunted and whatnot but what did the woman do?
Speaker 1uh, she scared the shit out of me. I still have dreams about that chick, like, honestly, and no, this is not a weird dating thing. No, like it, she, I don't know. I used to have dreams where she'd be like coming at me, like with, with her arms outstretched, and like like that or some shit. And then I, it was, it was crazy.
Speaker 3I I, yeah, like it was it dreams, or did you see her in the house?
Speaker 1I've seen her in the house, but these dreams that I've had later on, you know, uh, that they were her, yeah, it was crazy wow, your dad didn't have woman coming in out of the house oh no, not my dad, no way nope, didn't see a thing.
Speaker 2He says last night in the bedroom just before your mom got home no, that wasn't right your mom's like what?
Speaker 1oh, everybody's talking um anyway. So you said when you were a kid, you the paranormal stuff happened, it's I mean well, I don't know like those.
Speaker 3Those are my experiences, right. So I also had a vivid imagination. I kind of didn't like going in the basement. That was always creepy, even though we had a finished basement. But also when I was a kid in the 70s we had this like big Mediterranean furniture.
Speaker 1Oh, that's awesome Right.
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Speaker 3And there was this big painting that was hanging in the living room and it was, and our house was not big, it was very small, so we had this big, oversized mediterranean furniture in a very teeny, tiny space and then this big painting of like a, a knight right like a, like a spanish knight in armor or something, and his eyes, I swear to god, would follow me as I'd walk through the living room and back and it was the creepiest painting ever. I don't know if you ever felt like someone's watching you all the time, you know, and on the other side of the wall was a refrigerator, so it wasn't like it was possible for you know, for someone to be like in there, but there was always this feeling of like somebody watching you when you walked through.
Speaker 1It was creepy, really creepy, yeah like I said that's scooby-doo type shit, remember, like in the scooby-doo cartoons, and the picture to sit there followed and then they figure it out whatever, and then yeah yeah so we are like an hour into this and we, you know, maybe we'll get some more spooky stuff going too. But I want to talk a little bit about plausible but you tell us about that's. That's. That's what you should do sure.
Speaker 3So plausible is an online platform designed for comedians by comedians. You're familiar with Etsy, right? Yeah, okay, so on Etsy, it's a marketplace where people who make stuff and then they sell it and then buyers come in and they buy the homemade stuff that these people make. So Plausible is a comedy marketplace. So comedians can create their free account and they are given the scheduling tools, the ticketing services, the virtual stages, everything they need to produce and perform shows online. And then comedy fans can go in and create their free account and they can go through the event listings and the talent directory and they can find shows that happen live in real time.
Speaker 3It's not YouTube, they're not pre-recorded, so you have to show up at a specific time, log in and the comedian can see and hear the audience, and the audience can all see and hear each other. And it's performed online and comedians have the opportunity to earn money or create free, free events, whatever they're choosing, and they're in the driver's seat. There's no gatekeepers, there are no algorithms. You don't have to have x number of followers to earn money. Um, you can sell one ticket, you're making money and you don't have to jump through a million hoops to make your comedy happen. That is what plausible is cool.
Speaker 1Well, that's really cool. When did you start that?
Speaker 3So I had the idea about doing stuff online. Actually, when I moved from New York to California and I found myself spending more time in traffic than I did on stage and I was like this is bananas. Like how do I bridge this gap? Like I want to work out my new bits, but I don't want to break the bank in gas and I also don't want to spend my entire life on the highway. So I was like what if I do some things online, like on Skype, because Skype was a thing at the time. And then also Zoom. I was using Zoom for my day job and I thought that, but not a lot of people were familiar with it. It was fairly new.
Speaker 3And then life happened and life got lifey. I continued producing in-person shows and doing all that. And then, august of 2019 BC, before COVID, I started doing open mics, because I had run an open mic for over seven and a half years in New York and I missed it. And I produced shows in New York. I did all the things, and so I wanted to get back into it and connect, reconnect with everybody. So I started doing things online using Zoom. I had a website for my other business and so I just created a page where people could sign up and people started coming and they're like, hey, this is really cool. And then some people were like, why would I do that? And then COVID happened and everybody was doing things online and everybody now like Zoom is like Kleenex, you know, it's like everybody knows what it is.
Speaker 1Pretty much yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, and although it's great you know it's great for many things it's not designed for stand up comedy. You know it's it. No one wants to go to a show and feel like, hey, I was just here with Bob from accounting Like that's just weird, right, it's a weird vibe and everybody's like, oh, that was pandemic. I'll put that behind me. But what I also recognize is before, you know, even during COVID, we had to cobble together like a place for people to sign up and this for people to do that and then try and duct tape and bungee jump it all together. Comedians, we don't have time to be doing all that. We want to spend our time writing and performing. And social media is great, but how much content can you churn that's actually meaningful and you're proud of, you know, and that's going to do anything? Plus, it goes into the black hole of social media. How many people are actually seeing it? And is it, you know, are you performing? So I thought, how can I solve those problems? So I ended up going back to school. I got my master's in innovation, entrepreneurship. Like I want to immerse myself into the ecosystem, to like find people who code, because I'm a non-technical founder, I'm not a software developer and build a team, and so, anyway, after I graduated, I found the right people and created a team and shared my vision and we created everything all in one place.
Speaker 3So Plausible is online. So if you're familiar with things like Google Meet or Zoom, you understand the concept of logging into something and seeing and hearing everybody. But with Plausible, we have it set up so that not with like all this animation or branding that people would use in a podcast or something like that, but set up in such a way that I can, as a host, bring people to and from the virtual stage and I don't have to click through to see my audience on other screens. It's set up in such a way that you can see the majority of your audience and I can scroll if I need. Like just as I would turn my head left or right to pan an audience in real life, I can do similar things online so that I can read the room quickly.
Speaker 3I don't have the audio cutouts and things like that. So, like, if I am telling a joke and someone coughs, it doesn't cut off my punchline, that kind of thing, right, you can hear multiple people laughing at the same time. So it's set up for stuff like that, and also the ticketing service is built in and the scheduling tools are built in and we have a events listing page and a talent directory so that everything's there. If you are using just a video conferencing tool like zoom or something, they're not advertising your show on their website, or you as a performer on zoom, like it's not going to happen, but we do on plausible and so, um, that's, that's a big difference, is it's? It's specifically for live comedy that's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1I I love this. I feel I might create an account.
Speaker 3That would be awesome, I think I will too yeah. Yeah, please do.
Speaker 1You're welcome, so let me ask you this Do you have online open mics on there?
Speaker 3Yeah, we sure do, really. Yeah, very cool, and that's the other thing. Like there's open mics, there's classes, there's shows. Some people do their podcast on there. Because you have the capability to record and download, so you can redistribute. You can also stream live to YouTube, if you wanted to do that, so you could like, you could invite your listeners to be live in this audience and then at the end you could do Q&As hey, does anybody else have questions? And you can bring them to the stage and interact with your fans, stuff like that. Yeah, and then you can also still repackage. You know, download and redistribute. You can do all the things you'd normally do Typically with your podcast. You know you can, can download it, take your audio, but do all those things. But if you want to add to that, you can add a live online audience so that people can come in and and be your super fans, and you could even sell tickets to that or you could offer it for free. Whatever works for you that's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1So if you're a fan because I don't hear, this is I. I know a good portion of our audience wants to hear paranormal stuff, uh, but I feel that there's a portion of our audience obviously that that's here for, maybe for comedy too, like either me and dw's interaction or what funniness might happen throughout the show. But if they're fans of comedy and they don't want to leave their house, right, get on plausible and just create an account or do it without an account. Can it just be a guest and go on there and, uh, look supposed to be on so.
Speaker 3So currently you have to create an accountant and so you log in and that's basically for your protection. We're trying to avoid like Zoom bombing and things like that.
Speaker 3So if you guys are familiar, but you should log in and then you have access to the talent directory and the event listings and, yeah, you can peruse through and see what fits in your schedule and you can go to any of the things that you want to go to. So, yeah, you can do that, and we're going to make that registration process even a little bit easier this summer. Not that it's hard. You enter your first and last name, your email and a password. That's about it. You have the option right now to add other information about yourself, but we'll probably streamline that in the next month or two. But that's really all you have to do and then you can take a look around.
Speaker 3There's no social media feed. Like you've got to see, like, what bagel so-and-so had for breakfast. No one cares. Like you're there to see people do live comedy, like, and comedians are there to do live comedy, yeah, so it's not like this other thing where, like, you have to do like tiktok dances or anything like that, although those are fun and I can't dance, but yeah so what do you think about tiktok as a comedian?
Speaker 1see, like I, I have my uh qualms about this and and we can discuss that and that's fine. But, like as a comedian, what? What are your honest thoughts on tiktok?
Speaker 3my honest thoughts as a human is like this is, like I call it, doom scrolling, because all of a sudden you look up and it's like, oh my god, what happened to like the day you know? Because how did I go down this rabbit hole? Um, I think it. I guess I've heard people say like they've made friends there. I don't make friends like that, on things like TikTok. I'm like, if you're DMing me, I'm like, wow, who are you? Um, unless you're reaching out on the plausible stuff, then I'm like, oh, okay, you're DMing me. I'm like, wow, who are you? Unless you're reaching out on the plausible stuff. Then I'm like, oh, okay, now I know why you would be reaching out to me.
Speaker 3But I liked it when, like back in the day, when social media came out and I know who I, I knew who I was connected with, like those are people I knew in real life. And then all of a sudden it like you know, the person who checked me out at the grocery store with my groceries is suddenly my friend on you know, facebook or something. I'm like now I don't know what to post because I don't know you. You know, but that's me and I'm not. I didn't grow up with social media. I grew up where you actually picked up the phone and called somebody and got a busy signal and I'm like, oh, I guess they're busy, call back tomorrow if it was the same way in your house.
Speaker 1But if you wanted to have a private conversation, you stretch that freaking phone card as far as you could, oh yeah yeah, and you go sit on the basement stairs or something right yeah, totally, you know.
Speaker 3And then my brothers would pick up in the other room and like play games and be like ha ha, ha ha and like hang and see how it's horrible. Like I didn't call people unless I had a reason to call people. It really typically wasn't, yeah, so, um, so I think tiktok, I don't know, I like. So let's talk about, like you're asking, maybe, about comedians putting their stuff on there. I never even put my stuff out on YouTube as a comic because I'm like if you watch me on YouTube, what are you gonna come see when you see my show? So like I'm not writing new stuff every, like I don't have a completely new set every week. Um, so at the time I was like, yeah, I don't want to do that, because what if I do the same, some of the same jokes or something and you haven't seen me before? Then you would come and see me and be like, well, I just watched that on.
Speaker 3YouTube and I guess that's why a lot of people do crowd work, because then it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3You're just doing random stuff and crowd work is controversial, depending on who you talk to in comedy. Is it really material to in comedy Is it really? Is it really material? I think it can be, if, first, I think people who do really good crowd work have done it enough that they have the right comebacks in their back pocket already. So it sounds fresh and casual, just like a set. Right, your set is pretty well rehearsed, but you perform it in a way that it sounds very natural and people are like, wow, they're just naturally funny. Well, that's, my job as a performer is to make you think I didn't spend six months writing and working out this whole set. Right, but I don't know. I also think for me, if I just watched all of your stuff on TikTok, I'm not going to come pay for a ticket because I just watched you do all of that honestly like why would I pay to go see the same thing I just got for free?
Speaker 3that's I mean not a lot of people think about that no, but I do because I know yeah, tickets are tickets are expensive and if I've already seen all your jokes, why would I pay to go see?
Speaker 2them.
Speaker 3Also people. I don't want to drive and be around millions of people Like I've become more introverted as I've gotten older. But and I think COVID had a lot to do with that I'm like leisure, I'm good. So I think that those who do a better job of not posting everything online are more likely to get me to come out. Like Colin Jost if you go to his Instagram, he ain't posting all of his stuff online. I'm like oh my gosh, I wonder what his standup's like. I got to go see it and that's why I paid the ticket and we went to do it, so that's. But. But by the time, everybody posts a clip of their set I've seen it all and you saved me gas money. Like sounds terrible. But that's also why I created Plausible, so people could actually get paid for an actual performance, versus a clip they threw up on social media that they get a bunch of likes for for and they never get any compensation.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, good point.
Speaker 3I mean, what are you doing comedy for? You're not even putting on social media, You're not even getting an immediate response to know if it was good. I mean, I like a lot of stuff on social media. It doesn't mean I listen to the whole thing or laughed, you know, but I'll support people Like you know, but I'll support people.
Speaker 2So I think if we're really performers and performing is what I want to do, and how do I drive people to that. So my take is promote your performances, but I wouldn't give away. I mean, why buy the cow if you get the milk for free thing? My, uh, another issue I have with all these posts on social media is a comedian maybe may have a really funny 30 second joke, okay, but they're gonna headline. They'll be up there for 45 minutes. How do I know that? That one joke is just as good as everything else they're gonna do you?
Speaker 3know headlining and you look at the club like if if they're headlining at the Waffle House, I might not think much of a headline spot. But if they're headlining at Comedy Store. I'm pretty confident that they're going to be good.
Speaker 2Yeah, but point being, how do I know that that 30 seconds wasn't their only good, their best funny joke and everything else is just not as good? It's a lot easier to be, you know, really funny for 30 seconds as opposed to hold an audience.
Speaker 3Yeah but I I've seen people send me their people have sent me their reels when I was producing shows and it turns out they put laugh tracks in really well and then they come and they do the set and it's not funny at all yeah, they're not getting any laughs. So highly edited reels, highly edited clips.
Speaker 3Today is hard to harder to spot and so another good point, yeah right, like that's the other thing, people putting together edited reels or clips, like you're right, I don't know that they're good, but if I watch enough of their clips and they're good, I'm like, well, now I, I don't need to go right right it's. I guess that's a fine line.
Speaker 1You could go either way on that you know, yeah, I have to ask you a question based on the producer. Okay, like I know we're getting far into the comedy in the business, but, uh, as a producer yourself, like, how, how do you book? Are you booking on? Are you booking on what they're saying, how they're looking or delivering it, or you know how they look as they're saying it, or are you booking on the clip itself?
Speaker 3I'm booking. Are they a good comic? Are they going to make my audience laugh? Um, so it's a total package, right? It's not like I don't care how you look, I care if you're funny. So if you're funny, that means your delivery is probably good. You probably have well-written material, and so I go by that. And the other thing that I did when I was booking shows I don't, I am not producing shows now. I'm running Plausible, but I am not the producer of all these shows. People are independent producers on there of their own mics and all of that. I run my open mic on there.
Speaker 3But when I was producing shows sorry disclaimer when I was producing my shows in New York and in California people, I would request that people send me a reel or something about themselves. And the other important thing is please don't assume I have seen you before or I should know who you are. Even if you think you're well-known in your area, a producer or somebody might be new to the area or it's just courtesy, just kind of tell them who you are, because I've had people like you don't know who I am, then I don't want to be on your show. I'm like I still don't know who you are, you know what I mean. Like OK, whatever, and I still laugh at that today.
Speaker 3Like you're probably not right for my, for my room, but I think about where I am doing the show. Like I was producing shows at a theater, at a bar, at bars, I was doing it at coffee houses, and so I got to keep in mind like where, where, what's my demographic? Who's usually showing up? Is it other people in that world? Is it people in New York? They're different than people in California. They were different people than showing up at a bookstore and and and different than what I later found out was a coffee shop run by Jehovah Witness and he didn't want any cussing, but he didn't tell me that until after the first couple sold out shows.
Speaker 3So, even though I had the conversations with him, he hadn't laid out any specific. You know there was no. You know, and I told him, like you know, I never know who I'm going to get, other than you know I screen them for good comedy. So, anyway, I think it's important to take into consideration what I'm booking for and where I'm booking it at and who's going to be the audience Children, I'm not going to have people dropping F-bombs or something like that. So anyway, all of that said, when I look at who I book in the same show, like I would I never book a show that's longer than an hour, maybe 15, 20, because people start getting up to go to the bathroom and go into the bar. You know it's, it's just too long.
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Speaker 3So that was my personal rule is I would try to keep it down. So if I had six to seven comics on my headliner obviously lasts, they would get the longest amount of time. You know, 20 or so minutes, right, I would have a feature, who would get seven to 10, and then I would have a few guest spots. Those people got three to five minutes, depending on their material, because it would give people a chance and it kept the show moving. If everybody in an hour and a half show gets 15 minutes, people are getting really antsy in their sleep. Because if you're not booking all people who can legit do 15, 20 minutes, there's the lulls and it drags. And as a host, my job is to build the momentum and have the biggest bang at the end of the show. And so that's how I booked my shows.
Speaker 3And and when I looked at people's material, if I had a lot of people doing, I'll give an example I was booking and I had several comedians who happened to be Jewish also met in the same week and I was like, okay, I'm going to space them, because if any of their material is similar, that's three really similar comics going together.
Speaker 3So I spaced them out. I booked you on this week, I booked you on this week and I booked you on this week, and then I'd put in some different comics. I might put someone talking about relationships or someone talking about sport, that kind of thing, if I kind of knew what kind of vibe they had. So it gave the audience variety, because if you get into a whole one thing again it's a little monotonous and drags things out, unless it was a themed night or something. Then you know like, let's say it's Pride or something like that, then you might take it in a different direction, in a different direction. But I thought of all of those things as a as a booker, because my job is, I want, I want my audience to keep returning every week, because every single week I had a different lineup so that's how I did it.
Speaker 1Any of the places that you you're like. Okay, I love that. I love how you're calling me out on it. You know it's cool. I love the explanation. I I appreciate it really. Um, because a lot of bookers I I don't know.
Speaker 3Sometimes I don't know what they really really look for, like yeah, well, there's nothing worse than going to a show and having the headliner go like first or second, and and then you're like our headliners got to leave, so they're going to do their bit. And then everybody goes like in an in-person show. It kind of changes the vibe Right by and then all of a sudden you have like random three people do guest spots and then you're like where is the headliner I paid for?
Speaker 1you know, sorry, yeah, yeah, the show needs to move along. You know, like, that's like you said, your job as the host it was to move along. Big bang at the end. And if you have people in there that are stinking up the joint, essentially, that's basically what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, the show's not moving. And then it sours people on comedy. They don't want to.
Speaker 3Yeah, you got to keep the pacing.
Speaker 1Throughout the whole thing. Yeah, agree, 100%. So plausible is a free service, right? Um, and all you got to do is look up plausible and you can be a fan, and if you're a comedian, you're watching this, you can sign up and have an account. Uh, yeah, it sounds a really good thing and I, like I said I, I think I'm gonna, you know, subscribe and dwa feel might do the same. Yeah, it'd be really nice to hit some open mics without leaving the house, not gonna lie for sure it would be.
Speaker 1That'd be really cool and I will not perform in my closet well, you gotta get out of there.
Speaker 3You gotta get out of there sometime you've been so quiet you haven't made a a squeak. Dw40, don't you want to call you that?
Speaker 2um, uh, yeah, yeah, you're like don't ever do it again, I will kill you yeah, um, there was Well someone called me WD and the thing is, this was someone who I thought knew me and then it's like off his notes so he obviously wrote it down wrong, but at some point he should have said wait a second. That's not right.
Speaker 1I would have said it, buddy. I would have said it, I would have fixed it right then. I would have immediately stopped what I was doing, fixed it Well some people.
Speaker 2So people mess up my last name, which you know. I've learned to just breeze right past it rather than bring any attention to it, especially when I appreciate when a the MC or whoever's bringing me on just says it with confidence, not like I think this is how you pronounce it, just says you know, dw Sarine, like if you say it with confidence, I'm going to pretend that's how it's pronounced and I'm just going to continue on with the show and no one's going to. You know, like I don't have material about that anyway, so I'm not going to dwell on it. So I'm just like let's move past that and I love that.
Speaker 3Yeah, people mispronounce my last name all the time, though they'll say leanne lewinsky oh gosh. So so my opener is that's right, my name is leanne linsky, not lynn, not lewinsky. Uh, you should know we are two very different people and, for the record, I have never, ever, given a TED Talk, other than that we're exactly the same person.
Speaker 2Oh gosh.
Speaker 3But people will say Lewinsky instead of Linsky. Yeah, so I just create a thing for that.
Speaker 1That's funny.
Speaker 3Maybe there's one for you, yeah, and also, if they call you WD, then maybe that's short for WWJD.
Speaker 2I just think they're thinking of WD40.
Speaker 3Yeah, probably.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, but I think there's a great joke in there for you.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean I've got several off the top, but I don't want to offend your audience, but I got really fun, like there's some funny bits in there, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't care if you offend the audience.
Speaker 2I mean they know I don't care if I offend them either. It's hard to mispronounce, john olson. You probably don't get a lot of people getting your name wrong that's like a fake name.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's like it's so. It's like a very easy common name it's either that or smith. You know, yeah, like just yeah and I know someone named john smith. It's every time my husband's like oh, I'm talking, my friend. I'm like, oh, the guy with a fake name, yes, he's not real. Like I'm just convinced he doesn't exist.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's good. I mean I could. It's pretty common, I think, especially now living in minnesota. I don't think, you can't, I can't, you can't throw a frisbee without hitting an olsen, so I don't right yeah, also like if you were on a dating app or something.
Speaker 3Someone tried to google you. Good luck, right, unless I knew you were a podcaster or comedian, because then all these other john olsens are going to come up. It's true, like the first thing that comes up when you google somebody, oh obituary, and you're like, ah, they took a dead person's name, you know like that's who I'm going to go out with on Bumble or whatever it is.
Speaker 1Listen, I'm not trying to brag and this is not like egotistical or anything, but I I'm pretty confident.
Speaker 3If you google john olson, I'm gonna be right I I will probably be right up there, like that's good, you're on the first page of google.
Speaker 1You have maybe a ceo, I think I'm I'm gonna google you right now I think you could. Yeah, I think it's gonna be close okay, uh, j-o-h-n-o-l-s-o-n-s-o-n I mean that's okay.
Speaker 3The only variation is if it's s-e-n or s-o-n so I got a united states air force major general nope, that wasn't me I got a wikipedia, oh, first. Okay, so the first person who comes up, so he John John Olson, the, the Air Force guy he is on the top right with a photo, and then the top thing is Instagram. John Olson, a graphic designer and art director in New York City.
Speaker 1No, no, that's not me, no.
Speaker 3John Olson, a writer, an American poet and novelist. That's his wikipedia page I mean I mean you're different.
Speaker 2John olsen yeah, someone said there's john olsen operations and supply chain management. Yeah, that's not you all right, that's cool.
Speaker 1You guys are just hitting that ego.
Speaker 3I I'm telling you is there no bit on the first page?
Speaker 2sorry, go ahead, dw damn, oh wait, and here's the thing john olsoncom is uh. Oh, so it's john s olson, and he is, uh, assistant professor, uh, in the school of education and social policy at northwestern do you work at goldman sachs? No, that's that, no, there oh and here it's um uh kara levin investigates mankato man sentenced to 48 years in prison. Is that?
Speaker 3you Yep, yep this is what people are seeing on your dating app. Okay, john Olsen guitar.
Speaker 1Nope.
Speaker 2And then abuse victim left for dead.
Speaker 3Meryl Advisors. Let's see Archives from Sonic Editions johnny olsen johnny olsen yeah family medicine doctor uh, okay, all right chronicler of the 60s, innovator for the blind yeah oh, here we go. Obits and funeral services there's a whole database of John Olson's obituaries.
Speaker 1So when you, when I originally yeah, you know, I did not think this was going to happen like this.
Speaker 2I'm on page four and I still haven't found it.
Speaker 3You didn't think you were going to be fact-checked on your own podcast.
Speaker 1No, no, no. Here, let's do this just to give him a chance. You didn't think you were going to be fact-checked on your own podcast.
Speaker 2No, no, no, let's do this just to give him a chance.
Speaker 1John Olsen, comedian or Scolarius, and see what happens.
Speaker 2I was going to say, let's do John Olsen comedian.
Speaker 3Okay comedian.
Speaker 2Oh my God, and the first video that comes up is you needing to shave. Oh yeah, that's a close-up. So here's yeah, gig salad yep, mm-hmm, and then 2.0 yep, and then your LinkedIn actor okay yeah, so there it is all right and then murdered.
Speaker 3No, okay I'm just kidding all right so john's like and thanks for coming.
Speaker 1Bye-bye just a little bit there, okay, so you put the comedian on there. Boom, there it is but, also, if you type scolarius the name of our show in Google, we had a Google homepage. I mean, that's how freaking badass I was Like you know what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's like that right now, but it did. It was there and I was like holy crap, it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2If you do, scalarius, the first thing that comes up is the Spotify link.
Speaker 3Oh, it says it can in my AI overview says a type of fly, a key value store and a species of lizard.
Speaker 2Oh, Scolarius, it misspelt it, it, it oh, okay, it also has the uh simpsons cartoon picture, by the way. Awesome, I don't know who I'm shushing in that picture. It's john upset at something and me, yeah, when it doesn't autocorrect my spelling.
Speaker 3You are first with Scalarius, which I keep wanting to say Scarylicious.
Speaker 1Well, I mean, that was the second name we picked, but DW didn't want to do that, because he keeps emphatically saying we're not a couple.
Speaker 3Yeah, that might bring up a whole different, different thing in the google search. Yeah, yeah, I think scolarius is a is a great name I.
Speaker 2I didn't want to be known as a combination of scary and delicious kind of like the hubba bubba bubble.
Speaker 3Remember that yes, do you guys remember the gum squirt, where it squirted liquid into your mouth when you bit into it. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2No, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3Yes, look that up, squirt.
Speaker 1It was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3It was like but then you had to spit it out after the experience.
Speaker 2Right right.
Speaker 3Like it peaked too early for gum for me chewing gum.
Speaker 2Oh gosh, yeah it was badass, all right.
Speaker 1So, leanne, I have to ask you this and then we'll get going with the rest of this, this shindig. So you, you've been on the road, things like that. Do you think that you ever had a paranormal experience in a hotel that you stayed in? Like would you know? Does anything come up like?
Speaker 3that didn't involve alcohol, where I wouldn't remember. No, um, hmm, there have been some scary hotels, you know. No, none that off the top of my head. I feel like I'm losing my memory. Maybe it was a paranormal experience that did that to me and like, wipe things out. Does that happen?
Speaker 1uh, only on men in black, but and some say that that'd be that's a scary movie too. Um, but in a completely different way. So all right, and I don't care if this is paranormal related or not. What is the scariest thing that's ever happened to you?
Speaker 3besides divorce, uh dating. Scariest thing, oh, driving on the 405 in california oh yeah, that's horrible oh yes, I got rear-ended. That was terrifying. To look in the rearview mirror and see that the guy behind me did not break, I was like oh my god. And then know that impact was coming. That was terrifying, yes that.
Speaker 1Okay, that's, that's fair. I was gonna tell you the last time I was on the 405 it took me three and a half hours to get from anaheim to la that's about right.
Speaker 3Yeah, it would take like living in long beach. Going to the grocery store would take 30 minutes and it's maybe a mile or two away yeah yeah, it was stupid. The traffic is insane, so yeah, another zero stars. Do not recommend another yelp page needed is there a yelp page for la traffic I think there might be.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I, I, we asked about the scariest thing and and what about the most hilarious thing that's happened?
Speaker 3see, we're gonna do the, we're merging okay besides getting married, divorce, uh, driving on the la freeway. Oh, recently I was on a on a plane and uh, coming back from California and flying Southwest, fine, I was in boarding group C, which means I'm like the last person on the plane and you only have the smattering of like middle seats or something. Any seat that has that requires you climbing over several people. So I first looked for a room in the overhead, found an empty spot, threw my bag up there, looked down and there was like, okay, well, there's an empty seat here, an empty seat here, I'll go for the one that's right next to my overhead. And I said to the lady I said she left the window seat open, which is odd. Both of them on either side. I'm like, either way I have to crawl over people. So I said, excuse me, um, may, may I take that seat? I see it's available.
Speaker 3And she was like, and she had her purse on it and some other personal belongings and like her tablet. And she was like, and I could tell she didn't want to give up her seat right. And so she, uh, she, I don't even know if this is funny anymore, it makes me mad. But basically she picked up her tablet and goes you know what, after like making me stand there and wait for a really long time what seemed like forever, she picked it up and she's like waves it around.
Speaker 3She's like you know, I'm not going to wear headphones, so you should probably look for another seat and I could feel all eyes on me and I do not want to be going viral for that and I was like, really like, really I'm not, you're not gonna let me sit there. And she was like, and I could feel all eyes on me and I turned around. I go all right, well, okay, I go. Well, may I have the seat that's available over there? And the two people looked at me and they're like, yeah, well, apparently she did it to the next lady too. The lady came up and said, may have that seat, and she's like well, no, and that everybody had turned and looked at me and the two people I end up sitting next to is like does she realize she's on southwest?
Speaker 2like I don't right I was.
Speaker 3I I don't know, it's just one of the. It was funny and uh and also awkward, but that just recently happened and I was like what is wrong with people?
Speaker 3I think since covid it's been a lot worse yeah, and then at the end of the flight, several moms came up and high-fived her because she had a young daughter next to her or whatever, and they're like people just don't understand what moms go through. I'm like I don't think you have to be a mom to understand. There's an empty seat you didn't pay for, right like that. Someone else needs a seat, like that's. It's a sold-out flight. But yeah, I don't know that really wasn't hilarious, but it's been on my mind. There's a bit there somewhere, right, yeah?
Speaker 1yeah, also I would be scared of her.
Speaker 3I would be. She's scary. People like that are scary, especially on planes, because you don't know are they going to open the door and throw you out. Mid-flight it could happen. It happens. People get in. Did you hear about okay, other scariest thing and also hilarious, speaking of flying, did you hear about the delta flight where a pigeon was loose on the plane?
Speaker 2yeah yeah, oh my gosh, one of my good friends, we were talking about this.
Speaker 3She goes. Apparently it was a carrier pigeon like I was like stop it. Yeah, but that's like putting a bike on a car, like at what point are you so lazy as a bird that you have to hop a plane?
Speaker 2And then you get there oh shoot, I wanted to go to Atlanta.
Speaker 3I mean right Legit.
Speaker 2The bird gets there and its friend's like how was your?
Speaker 3flight.
Speaker 2Oh shoot.
Speaker 3I wanted to go to. Atlanta. I mean right, Legit, the bird gets here and its friend's like how was your flight? Oh, my arms are so tired. Around the cabin, All right.
Speaker 1That's funny. All right, leanne, let's tell the people where they can find you. If they want to Like, obviously it's going to be somewhere around. Plausible, but yes, definitely plausible. If they want to like, obviously it's going to be somewhere around plausible, but, yes, definitely plausible.
Speaker 3P, l, a, u, z, Z, a, b, l, ecom. Plausible. Why is it spelled that way? Because somebody bought all the domain names with normal and reasonable spelling. But, yeah, plausible with two Z's a, b, l, ecom. That's where you can find me. I'm on there most days. Uh, lots of comedians, hundreds and hundreds of comedians, uh, that you can check out, and different open mics and shows. And if you want to find me as an individual, you can find me on linkedin. I am the only leanne linsky, and it's linsky, not the winsky. You won't find a TED Talk on my resume.
Speaker 1That's awesome, all right, well, leanne, we also do a little thing. It's called this or that, and basically we're just going to ask you a question and give you two answers, you just pick which one, and it's pretty harmless for the most part, unless DW gets rowdy, yeah.
Speaker 3I see that happening. Yeah, you can tell that I'm a loose cannon over here.
Speaker 2DW, is it my turn, it's your turn.
Speaker 1All right, it is my turn. All right, get ready for food questions, leanne, because that's what I hit people with.
Speaker 2All right, it's 10 minutes before he finishes with breakfast.
Speaker 1We are starting with breakfast as the most important meal of the day. Leanne your eggs. Do you like them over easy or scrambled? Scrambled over medium actually oh okay, bacon or sausage bacon, nice, good choice. Toast or bagels toast rye rye toast.
Speaker 3Okay, cut diagonally or just straight up and down I, I don't care, it doesn't even have to be cut.
Speaker 1All right, Fair. Now do you dip your toast in the egg?
Speaker 3Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, nice, that's required.
Speaker 3That's required, Egg potato, all the things.
Speaker 1Yeah, throw some hot sauce on there, yeah or salsa. Oh, that too, Absolutely. Oh, you can wrap it in a tortilla. See, now I'm getting hungry. All right, do you like your donuts? Like the regular cake donuts or like a roll?
Speaker 3If they're a roll, they're not really a donut. True and they're a roll, so I like a regular old donut.
Speaker 1Regular old cake donut. Now, if you were going to get a regular old cake donut, would you get a chocolate donut?
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 1Or one of those, just a glazed one.
Speaker 3Chocolate.
Speaker 1Okay, and chocolate sprinkled or no sprinkles?
Speaker 3No, sprinkles All right, that's awesome.
Speaker 1Just a straight chocolate donut. Yes, that's badass. All right, now we're going to go fly, and we're going to go somewhere. Well, maybe not flying. That's up to you. Would you rather drive or fly? Fly?
Speaker 3I'd rather fly with a pigeon in the cabin than drive. I have so much anxiety driving. Yes.
Speaker 1I get it All right Now. If you were to fly, are you going to fly to wonderful Las Vegas, nevada or New Orleans during Mardi Gras?
Speaker 3Vegas yeah.
Speaker 1It's badass.
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Speaker 3I did New Orleans once and it was such a great time Can't top it so I'm not even going to try. But Vegas all the time, because I lived there for 16 years. Yeah.
Speaker 1It's awesome All the time, because I lived there for 16 years. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm assuming you were then considered a local so you didn't live in paradise. Henderson, where were you?
Speaker 3At one time I was in Henderson, but another time, I mean when I first got out there, I was going to UNLV. So I lived like right off campus, yeah, yeah, to UNLV. So I lived like right off campus and then, yeah, and then, uh, not on campus. But well, I did live on campus my first year and then I lived off campus and then, um, I lived, I lived in various parts of I mean, I was there for 16 years.
Speaker 1I moved around a bit in the valley, but all over okay, you notice how I said you were a local, because I know how it is there, like locals go to one place and then everything. Oh, I, went everywhere.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, I was in my 20s. I was like I gotta check it all out, yeah I understand all right now.
Speaker 1Would you rather go to disneyland or universal studios, universal?
Speaker 3okay, fair, I don't know, I've been, I don't think, or Universal.
Speaker 1Studios Universal.
Speaker 3Okay, fair I don't know, I don't think I've been to Universal, so Universal yeah.
Speaker 1All right, see, these are new ones. I tried some on DW last week. Now I'm going to use them on you the Simpsons or Family Guy.
Speaker 3The Simpsons Nice.
Speaker 1Nice the Office or Seinfeld.
Speaker 3Seinfeld.
Speaker 1Wow, you didn't even think on that one.
Speaker 3Wow, am I showing my age, though? No, not really.
Speaker 2That was what I picked too.
Speaker 1I've seen one episode me, me and the queen consort. She sat me down, she goes. You have to at least watch one episode which I've seinfeld, you've only seen one yeah, I, I, I never got into it here. Okay, I'm gonna say something and please, for the love of god, if the guy ever hears me and wants to book me for any show, I'm sorry, but I cannot stand the voice of Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 1Oh, no, oh alright, I laughed like belly roll, laughed through all of. Everybody Loves Raymond. I can handle his voice, I can handle Ray Romano's voice, but I cannot handle, I can't stand Jerry Seinfeld's voice.
Speaker 3Ah boo, I know Alright what else.
Speaker 1So you said you like the Simpsons. Are you a Homer Simpson guy or gal? All right. So you said you like the simpsons. Are you a homer simpson guy or gal, or a march simpson gal? Homer nice, all right, always go for homer. That's badass. All right, nelson months or bart simpson or Bart Simpson Bart. Simpson Okay, all right, it took a while and I was sitting there thinking, wow, she got a game.
Speaker 2It's not Nelson. I mean, come on, nelson's hilarious.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, they're both funny.
Speaker 1I understand. The funniest thing I've ever seen Nelson do wasn't even Nelson, it was Milhouse. To be fair, I know you remember this, DW Leanne, you might, since you're a Simpson fan there was an episode where Lisa gets a crush on Nelson.
Speaker 2Oh, and it's the guess who likes you?
Speaker 1See, I can't even get through this, it's not. Yes, milhouse is helping Lisa and he passes a note to Nelson and it says guess who likes you? Nelson turns around and it's Milhouse doing freaking eyebrow wag or whatever.
Speaker 2I don't remember and then the next scene is Milhouse being carried away into an ambulance.
Speaker 1I'm so sorry Milhouse being carried away into an ambulance. I'm so sorry Milhouse, His ears are packed with gauze.
Speaker 3Oh.
Speaker 1God, that's hilarious. But the funniest thing is Milhouse's eyebrows go up and down and it cuts to Nelson beating the Like. He doesn't physically do it on the show, but you know that's what happens and I lose it every single time because I just know that that's gonna happen. All right, well, I mean, you disappointed me picking seinfeld over the office, but I I get it. I understand it. We've had a pretty fun time tonight. I want to let you know I appreciate you coming on telling us a little bit of the Honda stuff but, most importantly, entertaining us and telling us about that awesome format you got with Plausible. Like I said, I'm personally going to sign up and I feel DW.
Speaker 3I will too.
Speaker 1Most definitely hit some of those open mics and maybe get a school area show up all in there. I think that'd be fun that'd be awesome. You're welcome to do so that'd be great all right and well, um, thank you again for coming on. This was amazing. Uh, yeah, anytime, and we can uh chat it up on the, on the plausible or whatever, too at some definitely definitely awesome thanks, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3It was a pleasure meeting both of you. Talking with you uh, scary things hilarious things see.
Speaker 1That makes the show fun hilarious things hilarious things, even you guys beating the shit out of my ego for like five minutes that was great oh, dw, that's what the like.
Speaker 3I saw the spark. I saw the spark you know that's okay.
Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts
Speaker 1So, yes, we're not a couple, but I, you know, he, he's impossible sometimes. I, you know, I like, I'm the one I'm, I'm kind of the dick of the show. Okay, I might not be really, but I'm kind of the dick of the show. And here I am pouring my heart out, basically to the guy. I'm like, you know, I really missed you, I really did. I, I missed you. You know, it was a long hiatus and I really miss you. You know what this guy says to me. He says now I know why people don't listen to the show because you're bored. Oh, it's true. No, no, first of all, there's plenty of people that listen and I feel they would disagree 100 with you.
Speaker 2Dw, I am not boring, but the fact that I was nice, I was nice and just you were nice, you were nice but, I don't think that well, and again, this goes back to when you were trying your own material and you delivered it much more enthusiastically than you normally do. I don't think you realize how low-key you really are when you're just like you cannot get less enthusiasm. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1I think I'm fine. My low-keyness is great and people enjoy it well, thank you both for having me here and thanks for bringing up food now. I'm starving well, I don't know what. What I'm assuming it's seattle just go to a coffee shop, you know the husband, he's cooking.
Speaker 3He's been cooking this whole time.
Speaker 1Oh, damn well you guys you're five star chef for a husband getting the smoke signals over here that it's ready.
Speaker 3Like I can. I can smell it wafting in here.
Speaker 1All right well, in that case you better go so you know what that means. Dw do you know what that means that you guys have been amazing. We have been scolarius and we are out later.