What Happens When You Stop Chasing the Money With Alexandra McCalla {Client Interview}

What Happens When You Stop Chasing the Money: Alex on Doing Less and Receiving More {Client Interview}

In this episode I'm joined by one of my long-time clients, Alexandra McCalla — a breathwork and somatics practitioner, and the founder of Somatic Intelligence. Alex came into my world already deeply embodied in her own body of work, but with a gap she couldn't quite name: she had learned the language of her body, but not when it came to her business and her money.

We trace her whole evolution — from being booked-out, frenzied, and unknowingly avoiding money, to doubling her highest cash months, working significantly less, and arriving at a kind of internal trust she didn't think was actually available to her. 

We talk about the tension of stepping into more ease (and the fear that the money will disappear if you do), why the body comes first and the structure follows, and what it actually feels like to no longer go outside yourself to receive.

This one is full of language for what so many of you are feeling but can't quite articulate.

About My Guest

Alexandra McCalla is a breathwork, somatics practitioner and somatic intelligence teacher. She works with people who have developed a lot of cerebral intelligence (the over-thinkers, the over-achievers) and helps them reconnect with their body so they can move through life from flow rather than fear. Find her on Instagram at @alexandramccalla.

What You'll Take Away from This Episode:

• The upper limit of cerebral intelligence — and how to tell when your over-thinking has become the ceiling on your business, your money, and your nervous system
• The three receivership patterns most overachievers don't know they're running — over-extension, frenzy, and the avoidance pattern that shocked Alex when she found it in herself
• Why the body-first sequence works (and strategy-first keeps you stuck) — Alex walks through the literal lever-by-lever pattern: internal shift, then a business shift, then internal again, then business again
• What it actually feels like in your body when you start receiving more with less effort — and why your nervous system can read this as danger before it reads it as pleasure
• The tension point where most people abandon the work — feeling the urge to act from fear, and the practice of holding that tension until you can act from somewhere new
• How to know when your business is asking for a structural change vs. when it's asking for an internal one first — because the same external move from the wrong internal place will only recreate the pattern
• A reframe for "doing less" — what it really means to stop chasing the money in order to feel receivership, and instead feel receivership and let the money amplify
• Why this work needs time — Alex's "digestion" analogy and what most coaching programs get wrong about timelines
• The exact moment Alex realized she'd been "putting a number on a feeling" — and what shifted when the number became the amplifier instead of the goal

Timestamps (approximate)

• 0:00 — Welcome and Alex's introduction
• 2:30 — The disconnect: knowing your body, but not yet in relationship to money and business
• 4:30 — What was happening before we started working together: booked out, frenzied, hitting an edge
• 7:30 — The first shifts: getting in touch with pleasure, having a somatic response to visualizing the business
• 10:00 — The receivership patterns: over-extension, avoidance, "doing more to receive more"
• 12:00 — Body first, then business — the lever-by-lever evolution
• 14:30 — The terrifying middle: when the money is still there but the body doesn't yet trust it
• 17:30 — Holding the tension to act from a different place
• 20:30 — The biggest celebrations: highest cash months doubled, a new body of work created, 70+ people in her last offer
• 23:00 — No longer going outside myself to receive — the foundational shift
• 25:30 — The reframe: chasing money to feel receivership vs. feeling receivership and letting the money amplify
• 29:00 — Overthinkers Paradise and how the inner work ripples into what you teach
• 32:00 — The fear before saying yes: the length of commitment and what made the body trust it
• 36:30 — Bali goddess era + where to find Alex
• 38:00 — Overthinkers Paradise + Somatic Intelligence (6-month program) details

If this episode resonated for you, then you're going to love FLUSH, a 2 part capacity workshop for ambitious women who desire to expand their business and money from your peace, presence and pleasure. 

You'll walk away with your own personalized capacity map, getting clear on where your capacity ceiling currently lives, how to shift it, and the way this wants to anchor itself into your business eco-system. Register here: www.anakinkela.com/flush

Resources and Links

• Follow Alex on Instagram → @alexandramccalla
• Overthinkers Paradise (15-day protocol program) → Click here to access
• Flush (Where your peace margin amplifies your profit margin) → Click here to access

To connect with me and my work, find me on Instagram @iamanakinkela and say hello!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Welcome to the Lush Podcast. This is your host, Anna Kinkela, inviting you into your new receivership era with your money, business, and life. Let's begin. Hi, Alex. Hi, Anna. It's so good to be here with you. I'm really excited to share you with my audience and to just share the beautiful journey that you've been on and that we've been on together. And so thank you for being here. And um, I want to start out by just giving you some space to introduce yourself, who you are, and your work in the world, and then we can go from there.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Yeah, I'm really happy to be here and share what a journey it has been. I was reflecting on that before we jumped on. So, yes, my name is Alex, Alexandra McCallor, and I am a breathwork and somatics practitioner. Uh, but really, I like to say I'm the somatic intelligence teacher. And somatic intelligence is really about helping people who have naturally developed a lot of cerebral intelligence, I like to call it, and are feeling an upper limit based on the ways of moving through life that coming from cerebral intelligence will present. And somatic intelligence is about reconnecting with the body and your true aliveness so that you can move from a flow state through life rather than purely in fear, really. So I work with people in really deep ways, weaving breathwork and somatics. Um, and I love this work so much, it transformed my life. I used to be in a very busy, heady environment, running a tech company, um, being in corporate consulting before this, and overthinking, overachieving, and yeah, working with you has been the next layer of me moving into how to embody, I feel, my own work in my work and receivership, if that makes sense. So it's like how do I take the semantic intelligence that I developed within myself, especially when I took a lot of time out, and really expand that into how my work in the world now and my receivership and money relationships are influenced. So yeah, bit on me.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

I love the way that you said that because there's something really um important I think to tap into here when you were talking about I wanted to embody this work inside of my work and my business. And I'm curious what felt like was the disconnect for you when it came to the body and like business and work.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Yeah, I guess it was because I always say like semantics is about learning a language, and I had learned the language of my body, but not when it came to how that how that spoke about my work and about money. So it introducing to what is the imprint or how does my body respond when I relate to or visualize my business ecosystem when I relate to or visualize money in the room and offer uh whatever it is, yeah, that gave me a language to start to yeah, explore what was going on in my body in relationship to those things. Does that make sense? Oh yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Yeah, and I think that that's I I do work with a lot of folks who have a somatic background or do that as their work. And the reason they usually step into working with me is because that is usually such unexplored territory. Um, you know how to do the work powerfully, but it's so different when you do it in relationship with business and money in particular. And so I'm curious for you what was happening at the time when you stepped into working with me when it came to business, money, and work. How was how did you know that like you needed this work?

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Well, a couple of things. One, my I felt like I'd learned what I could learn from my mentor before. And even she was like, you need to go like fly the nest, if that makes sense. And that showed up in being booked out one-on-one, you know, um trying to put on multiple hats of implementing systems, and just now when I reflect on it, really being in the um the embodiment of the rule of I need to do more in order to receive more. And I didn't, I couldn't have articulated that at the time, but I knew that there was some sort of edge point. So when I first came across your work, I was like, yes, I want my nervous system to be integrated with this, and I don't know what that looks like, but I know that if I'm if I want to grow my impact of this work, there's something new I need to learn because I'm doing things a certain way, having super amazing impact of the work. Um, but I'm very much in control of a lot of things and feeling rushed out of time and breathing space to go into the more creative side of things as well. Yeah. So that was a bit dumbled, but that was kind of the swirling of things that were happening at the time.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it was like you were booked out, you were managing all these things, and it sounds like your capacity was stretched quite a bit at the time, and you didn't kind of know what's the next step for my business evolution and how this can actually feel different for me.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Yeah, yeah. It was like I didn't know how to get from because time was kind of used up and I was pushing energy. I was stuck, I had that year, earlier that year, really realized I'd gone into an old pattern of um pushing outside my capacity work-wise. Yeah um, and but I knew that I desired to create more, yeah, and then there was just a gap in the middle between those things. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Yeah, and I think that's like such a common um experience where it's like we're doing more and more to create what we want, and you just get to this breaking point of like, well, I just feel tired. I I'm doing all this stuff, but it's not manifesting, and I don't know how I would take the next step and create more at the same time. Um, so what I guess I'm curious, like when you stepped into the space with me, what do you feel started to shift for you? What did you notice first in the work that felt powerful for you?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

I feel it was a combination of actually getting in touch with my pleasure and my cosmic egg area in my body that despite having done a lot of bodywork, I hadn't really like connected with. So that was very revolutionary initially. Um, and the other was this um this relational aspect that we kind of spoke at the beginning. It was like, oh, I can I can have a somatic reaction to visualizing the body of my work. Like I remember tearing up on very early sessions around that, or like I can have a somatic reaction or a nerve essentially a nervous system response to um what it would be like to receive more money, etc. etc. So that was the biggest thing initially, and then I think later I was reflecting that I feel like my journey in in evolving and growing the business since we started working together has been like maybe one step forward with my left foot on shifting how something lands in my body, and then one step forward with my right foot of how then can I change the external structures, containers, channels that money can flow through, offerings, how I structure my week and my business, blah, blah, blah, you know? And I feel like it's very much been, I can look back and see like what I just described just now was like the first left, that kind of internal nervous system shift when I was in lush CEO, and then when I stepped into Nectar, that was the kind of like first structure systems, and then it's been more of that since. So I kind of I I I expanded from what first landed, but it was just present. So I wanted to share that.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

No, I'm glad you shared that. Yeah, because I'm I'm actually curious because I think this connects in at least my brain. Um I I'm wondering like, what were some of the things that you were doing before you stepped into working with me as it relates to your business and money in particular? Like, what were you trying to shift or do to change the situation that was going on prior to the somatic aspect of it?

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Giving more, sacrificing more.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

Um being uh trying to do things from a frenzied state in the system. Yeah. Um and then avoidance. Yeah. Like big avoidance with money that I didn't even realize, like so much avoidance that I was shocked was there. Yeah. Those are the things that kind of come come up.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Yeah. Yeah. So like the overextension and avoidance, and I see that so much, and like they're basically all the patterns that we work with, and I call them receivership patterns because it's just the way that we've learned to kind of receive in our work, like receive in the business and receive money. But like this piece that you're touching into, which is like moving from that internal capacity shift to then like applying it in the business. I find that it's like such a different way of um moving in the business because we tend to like think more strategically from the mind in terms of like, oh, this is what I need to do in the business to make money. But then our body is still kind of left behind in overfunction mode and like doing all this stuff the same way. And so, even like when you do the stuff in business, you're still like operating it from that nervous system pattern. So that really just you probably even explained it better than I often do, which is like this is why to me, like it's like the body comes first, and then you can actually like see through the lens that allows your business to expand differently.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Yeah, exactly. And it's meant that especially, you know, recently I've been able to see this beautiful timeline of that um yeah, nervous system capacity and then business structure, business and life structure capacity, let's say. Um because I feel like I needed to enter into relationship with these things, develop capacity to actually receive more, then shift the business completely to and feel comfortable taking those changes and risks, which I wouldn't have, well, making those changes that felt risky, um, which I wouldn't have without that kind of um more safety around that being developed in my system. I would have just played it down or made compromises or done like weird under the table stuff. And then I had to go back internal to, and and from there, I felt like I experienced receiving more money and a different way of the business operating. But then I felt like I had to go internal again to more the Empress archetype that we talk about, and and undo even more of the doing more, and what I've experienced in the last six months or so is okay, I'm doing way less, but the money didn't go away. Yeah, that is like I had to do a couple of steps to get there, you know. Like I have to receive more through a different way to then experience what it is to still not be receiving as much as I was in the heights of the that shift, but still a significant amount from a completely different, like lived reality day-to-day and space within my body.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

Okay, you're touching into such um a huge tension point that like pretty much every single client I've ever worked with has, which is you, as an overachiever are used to making money a certain way, and you know how to do that so well. And it's a matter of like that pattern feels safe, and it's the link between, oh, this is how I create money. And then when you start to do this work, it's like unraveling the way that you've learned how to work and create money, but then there's this moment of like, wait, is this actually safe to do? Is money gonna go away and I won't be able to make money anymore? And I'm curious, like, for you to even share what that shift was like for you, because I know it's actually super terrifying in the body, and like how you actually got to the point where oh, this is a thing where I can do less, and the money amplifies. Because something that stood out, and we had our session last week. You said this, and I wrote it down because I was like, this is such so beautifully stated. I'm not working that much, and I keep being surprised that I have more than enough money. And so I'm curious for you to talk about the tension point because I think a lot of people will identify with like what comes up in the nervous system, and then how you feel like you stepped through to the other side where it's actually happening, you're seeing it happening and you're doing less, but letting yourself relax inside of it.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Yeah, yeah. It's been a really bizarre experience, I'll be honest. It's been not. I wrote about this recently that it's this moment where you're like, oh shit, this is happening, and my body is okay with it, and my mind isn't like spinning, and it's really the accumulation of all those like micro shifts to that point, yeah, when you realize, like, oh, I don't have that terror or that um parts flare-up that I that I used to, yeah. And I if I was described how it's felt, it's almost been like the first fear and shame, probably as well. Um shift that happened was around shifting how I offer the work because I wouldn't be where I am now if I didn't first shift that, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

So interweaved, it's like I couldn't have been receiving the way I am now just by embodying this state without in the old ways I was working. So they are really, you know, intertwined. Yeah. So changing how you work is the first um the first landing of that because you're laying that's why it's also scary, because you're laying a new way that's linked to that level of ease that that is also linked to the fear of the money not not being there. You know, it's like both those things, they're like two sides of the coin, the pleasure of the the ease, and and then also the fear. It's like, oh, how when you lean into that edge of the pleasure, oh the fear, but it might go away, you know. Um and so I feel like I was dealing with a lot of my parts throwing up, a lot of doubt, and the biggest thing of how it felt in my body was this intention literally in my body to act from those from those responses in your nervous system and parts. Yeah. And that was actually one of the first things I learned from you that really shifted how my world was it's not about it's finding aligned action from your body, you know, the like not just what we focus on what we do, but how and where it's coming from. And I feel like it was a lot of moments of feeling the tension to act, basically from fear, and just holding that tension until I could act from a different place within me, like whatever I'm creating, whatever action I'm taking. Um, and facing a lot of doubt and messages to you on that in the middle between.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Um I love what you're sharing here because I think it is important to acknowledge that, like in the initial stages, this does not feel easeful or comfortable at all because you're shifting out of a way your system has learned to overfunction. And um, you made the shifts that your body was telling you to make in your business, but it felt uncomfortable when you made them because your nervous system still had it normalized or wasn't feeling safe with that kind of receiving. So I think that that just like beautifully illustrates the way that this works in layers. It's like, oh, we reveal what you need to do and then you do it, and then you work with your nervous system to feel safe with what's there so that you can actually relax. Yes, yeah, yeah. That was like such a great example of it. So I'm curious for you, like, what do you feel like are the biggest shifts and celebrations from the time that we've worked together so far, both like in terms of like money tangibly, but then also like in terms of your own internal shifts and what you've seen?

SPEAKER_01 21:13

So definitely my relationship with money. I'm actually in relationship with it. I now have, and this is like beside the business, but like I now have ways that I look at my money every week and have plans for it and um and you know, investing and da-da-da, and all these things, you know. Um I inside the business, I would say created or channeled through a body of work that is yeah, like greater than me. That makes sense. Like it's on its own. own and I'm learning to trust it more and more. Um that is huge because to to create this and you know it's six months worth of of a j of a expansion transformation journey that I run both live and with um different semantic practices to stay in the creative process of that which all parts of me would have been like oh redirect go do something that gets you a more immediate quick hit of uh you know you can survive and make money and and be a value um there's then my uh you know highest cash months that's probably at least double what I had before working with you I'm thinking off the top of my head and experiencing that and then feeling without charge possibility of receiving more but what feels the most impactful and then also just the amount of people that are now impacted by my work like I had I think it was like 70 or 80 people in my last offer in December and got so much amazing feedback from that. So um but what I was gonna say what is the most impactful because I feel like when you have the shift inside that never goes anywhere is that now I'm how do I say it's like I no longer feel that I have to go outside of myself to receive it's a feeling that I feel like I can't even put like really good words to right now to capture it because it's been such a fundamental shift in how I feel yeah every day. Like I can actually really trust the universe and money and work flowing through that to like hold me.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Yeah yeah yeah I know what you mean I think um how I see this unfolding especially for high achieving women is like there can be an experience of I'm chasing the money in order to feel the receiving in my life yes versus like I feel the receiving and the money is just amplifying around me.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Yeah um and so yeah I understand the shift to your that was literally I was what I was trying to capture because it's like before when I started working for you I was like okay I need to get to this money in order to experience the ease the like the peace the what you know that receivership kind of lushness but now it's like the other way around the money is there and I'm experiencing but I'm experiencing that my experience comes first and the money is there and it's gonna grow yeah but I you told me that at the beginning that's what I mean of it the feeling feels very strange because I thought I needed to get to a certain amount to experience this. Yeah and I had to open up myself to receive more money and calibrate to more definitely but that was all all along the path to like experience this and then magnify more money from this place.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Yeah you actually said um I I took another quote down which I usually don't do in sessions but I was like oh this is so good she's like channeling something here you said I was putting a number on a feeling and now the number just enhances the feeling I already have look at how wise you are I need to I need to write that one down I like that that's literally that's it that's it yeah you said it last week so that was so perfectly stated um and I think for me like witnessing you in your evolution it has been so incredible to see you who I know are this incredible somatic um healer like worker that you support overachieving women to see you go from like I only have this finite amount of time to help like these amount of clients to developing like a body of work that um so many people can experience that benefits them but then seeing you have like so much time now to do the things that you really want inside of your life without losing out on money which I think has been like really beautiful to celebrate you in and see you unfold into an embody. Yeah I feel like I'm still having the moments of like oh my god it's happening yeah right now like I'm inside it right now yeah and I think that like this piece around it feels so strange and um it's a surprise and like all of those kinds of things are exactly what makes it so hard for our mind to actually bring us into the version of the business that gets to feel like that because those feelings and these states of being are so unfamiliar to our nervous system living in a culture where we are literally conditioned to equate like we have to work really hard and this equals money and this is just how we are um and so the unfamiliarity is what makes it so hard for people to embody this reality not just from the money perspective and time perspective but from like internally feeling the receivership aspect of it. And generationally like in our body that extraction that um yeah that all those ways of being that you described are so embedded and it's it's amazing to sh to experience the shifts and also to feel like you know parts checking oh well but aren't isn't your work being diluted or people aren't experiencing impact or like you're not still working intimately with people and it's like actually no all of those things are still happening you know yeah it just looks a little different so yeah yeah um I'm really excited to see how this continues to amplify for you um and just seeing you live your best life um and yeah is there anything else that is popping up for you that you want to share just anything that surprised you or anything that feels left unsaid I I think as I was reflecting on um on Overthinkers Paradise which was like a 15 day protocol program I ran live last end of last year and I see that what I teach in that is such a reflection of the shifts that I've experienced with you.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

With me it's been in relationship to creating in work and then in the program I teach more generally um but it's like I couldn't have trusted that creative channel and been with the surge of energy to create it even though I'd thought of it like seven months earlier. Yeah and and literally taught about okay the overthinking that that way of oh I need to act basically I need to solve this feeling through acting and I'm gonna I'm gonna spin mentally about that until I solve it. It's literally that tension point that I was describing earlier. And so it's beautiful as well how you experience the shifts in how you teach or offer the work as well when you embody new things and you you understand them at a very like cellular level or nervous system level. So um yeah that was the only thing I was thinking about as well that especially that offer was like so reflective of things I'd worked through the year leading up to it.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

So yeah it's really incredible to see how the work even when we're focusing on your business and money how it tends to ripple out into how you express yourself and what wants to come through you. Because it's why I call it receivership because literally it's like you receive even a different expression of how your work wants to live in the world like you receive a different expression of how you talk and how you walk and how you move right and so it's the work just like amazes me all the time and I've been doing it for so long and seeing different versions of it I'm like oh my gosh like holy crap like I can't believe like and I can believe because I see it so many times I'm wondering um did you feel any kind of um what's the word like any fears before you stepped into working with me or things that you were concerned about or like how is this gonna work or what is this what what was coming up for you before you even stepped in was there something that felt um unknown and that you you know wanted answered or were worried about I think when I stepped into um Lush CEO it felt like a very just like strong yes in my body um so that just kind of like carried me because I was like yes this is nervous system it was like speaking to me so yeah click um and then once I was inside I was like oh okay this is how this is actually like ran and and I receive it so but I think with nectar and then one on one working on one year the length I think because it was like six months or one year initially the the length was I think the um construction yeah um because you know that's already gonna rub up against parts of you where it's like what like that's so that's so long we we need to change right now or we have to overdo something right now you know like not giving something the breathing room yeah to to actually evolve and shift in your system.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

But I remember you said something to me just like you know understanding that when you're working in a business you have to give and in a body you have to give tie enough time for those things to shift and land. And I say something to my clients afterwards often that's like you know the body if you think of when you eat something you don't digest it out immediately. There is a digestion process and that's how the body works it's on a rule of thumb sometimes like you know a couple months behind your whatever you start to shift because everything needs to uh recalibrate um and so that spoke to my knowing of that and and I was able to step in so that that's that's probably the main thing like the length of time to and the and therefore the commitment yeah as well for something to to evolve.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

Yeah 100% yeah I mean I think we we live in a culture of instant gratification and like needing the thing right now and um you know I think like some things can unfold really quickly and it just depends where your nervous system is and what's needed. And so um I I don't know if I've ever well I have some like short-term one-on-ones but pretty much all of my programs are at least five or six months long for that reason it takes time to metabolize and implement and integrate so yeah I hear you though we we want the urgency aspect comes up so much for high achievers exactly it's the same it's the same uh you know uh survival response yeah really it's different in a different form in the body um and I think you can like I had huge shifts from whatever six weeks or short but to then really embody that and and have it land those are two different things it's like opening the door and feeling something new in your body and then going from there.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Yeah yeah I think it's an entire approach to how you just start to like live and receive and you kind of start to go at it layer by layer and deepen in the work. And I think you described that before it was kind of like the spiral of like there was this layer then I implemented then another layer then I implemented and it just kept spiraling deeper inside of you and reflecting itself back in your business. And the whole life yeah in your whole life where I am when I'm doing the whole thing you're in your Bali goddess era.

SPEAKER_04 37:10

Exactly love it.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

Yeah um well I would love to share um anything that you're currently doing with my audience so that they can find you you do such amazing work so I want everyone to know where to tap in.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Is there anything that you want to share about what's coming out or where people can find you yeah um you can find me on Instagram I post a lot over there Alexandra McCallor um and what's coming up for me is another opening of somatic intelligence which is my amazing six month um intimate transformation program and we'll also can get Overthinkers Paradise right now um which I honestly just think it's some of the best things I've made Overthinkers Paradise. And um I've just had such amazing feedback on it that I'm kind of like blown away by sometimes like oh really like this the work did that much of an impact so but really it's for people who have been in that like overdrive state um and it's happening both physiologically which I teach about and then in terms of emotions and identity actually so coming out of that out of a fear state to experience flow state um is really yeah what I what I teach and guide. Because I think if I didn't have the tools of knowing how to work with fear in the body and and shame as well which it's like those are fundamental um somatic kind of tools you want is like knowing how to work with those and knowing what happens in the body around that. So um yeah I'd love to connect with anyone that feels cold.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

Yes yeah that is all included in the show notes so check Alex out and follow her. Thank you so much for doing this and for you know sharing your experience I've loved working with you and you're gonna have a birthday soon so happy early birthday and um so grateful for you. Yeah thank you so much for your work in the world and for navigating many Lutil crash outs with me oh you have no idea those are so real in my world as well so I can hold you in it so welcome all of it is welcome.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

Happy to do it those are the moments though when you're really seeding what you know if you can work with it then it's gonna it's gonna be seeded into what comes next heck yes yes looking forward to more so thank you love thank you so much thank you so much for joining us inside of Lush if you know anyone who would enjoy this episode please share it with them and leave us a review to share your love of the podcast