Olivia Harms: Ranch Raised & Stage Ready for CBS’s The Road

We caught up with Olivia Harms for our second interview, during The Art of the Cowgirl, where she was performing. The ranch-raised artist shared an exciting next chapter in her journey. The daughter of nationally recognized IWMA Entertainer of the Year Joni Harms, Olivia was born into the spotlight—making her stage debut at just two days old—and that lifelong foundation in music has shaped the artist she is today. She opened up about how her introduction to Taylor Sheridan’s CBS series The Road led to her being selected as one of just 12 contestants nationwide. Although her run ended in the early rounds, Olivia reflected on how the experience sharpened her as an artist and songwriter, while also creating lasting friendships with the other contestants. Performing alongside and learning from country superstars Keith Urban, Blake Shelton and Gretchen Wilson, she gained invaluable insight and perspective, stepping onto a national stage that feels like a natural continuation of a life spent performing.

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SPEAKER_00 0:32

This little lady was born around, chasing down that morning sign. About the time you came along. I was fixing to get gone. Sorry it's gotta be this way. Maybe I'll come back one day. This ain't my first rodeo. We'll have a good running when it's time to go. I'll leave you in a cloud of dust, driving off in my pickup truck. Darling, don't try to tie me down. Won't be long, I'm leaving town. I break hearts, baby. Don't you know? This ain't my first rodeo. I don't mean to leave you on it. Sometimes I let things go too long. Big dreams can leave my heart amiss. Too late for me to change, I guess. Sorry, it's gotta be this way. Maybe I'll come back one day. This ain't my first rodeo. I'll have a good running when it's time to go. I'll leave you in the cloud dust, driving off in my pickup truck. Darling, don't try to tie me down. It won't be long, I'm leaving town. I break hearts, baby, don't you know? This ain't my first rodeo. Sorry, it's gotta be this way. Maybe I'll come back someday. Maybe this ain't my first rodeo. I'll have a good running when it's time to go. I'll leave you in the crowd dust driving off in my pickup truck. Darling, don't try to tie me down. I bury carts, baby. Don't you know this ain't my first rodeo? I bury carts, baby, don't you know this ain't my first rodeo?

SPEAKER_03 4:03

Oh yeah, thank you, Olivia Harms. Welcome to Musical Miles Podcast. I'm your host, Byron Duffin, here with this beautiful young lady. This is our second go-around. We got to sit down in Las Vegas, Nevada a year ago. Not last year, but the year before, 2024. And and had our first visit. I know. And a lot's happened since then.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

So much. So much has happened. Yeah, it's so good to be back with you, Byron. Like that's just ugh.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

Oh, it's always fun to sit down with you. You're you're just such a cutie, and you're you've got such a beautiful personality, and we love sitting down and talking to you. Um you you just played us a song on this close guitar. What'd you think?

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Oh my gosh, this is awesome. I love this, and this sounds like it's perfect for travel, too. It's really cool. It's like you can, what am I thinking trying to say? Compact.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Yes, it's very compact. Four bolts. You leave it strong.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

And look at it, it's so pretty.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

It is pretty. It's so pretty. Yeah. And you know the cool thing is once you get it in tune, once you and and you leave it in, you leave it together, it stays in tune. Because it doesn't change, it doesn't change with the weather. You know, we're we're in Arizona at the Art of the Cowgirl, and it's hotter than the hubs of hell. Inside this tent, it's a little warm. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

It's a little tropical.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

It's a little tropical. There you go. That's a better, nicer. You're a nice girl.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

It's a bit tropical. It's a bit tropical. We got some neck sweat for sure.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Well, my locks are almost as long as yours, so and we did curls today. And my curls are natural.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Oh, well, I wish I was so lucky.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

Yeah. But uh you are here for had now you've been here before with your mom and performed with your mother.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Yeah, so Art of the Cowgirl is something that's really near and dear to my heart because I've been coming here, gosh, for I mean, I think maybe after the first year it started. So I think I've been attending since 2017 or 2018. Wow. And my mom and I started doing a creative writers clinic.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

So we would do, you know, songwriting or people who were interested in journaling or poetry, all of the realms of writing. And we would teach a workshop, and uh, we had students and they'd come and we'd kind of try to write a song, and so we had a wonderful time with that for probably the last five or six years. And uh then, of course, it's so sad we lost the founder Tammy Pate, and uh they've sold to Rancho Rio here, and this is a great new facility and venue, so it's really fun to see it back in action because last year I was supposed to be here, right? But then I had to cancel.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

And so I'm guessing it was because of the road.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

It was, yeah. Figured that's what happened.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

So I mean, that's a pretty good reason to cancel, though.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

Well, it was. I was a little disappointed because we we met in December in Vegas and knew you were gonna be here. And so when I got here, I'm like, Joni, where's Olivia? Oh, she had something come up, and you know, and she was kind of really secretive about it. And then we didn't find out about it. When did you actually when were you able to release the news? Yeah, in June. June, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Yeah, we were we had to keep a really tight lid on the beans, like super tight. I mean, they put you in some ironclad NDAs and all those fun things, and so it was funny because during this time, um, you know, people that know me know that Art of the Cowgirl is one of my favorite events. Sure. So when I wasn't here, that was a pretty dead giveaway. And then when they looked at my schedule and saw that you like March and that whole month was empty, and they know I love to work and I love my job, and so I had people saying, Are you okay? Right. Everything all right? And I oh, I'm just taking some downtime. I'm on a remote.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

So that happened in January. That you couldn't tell until June. When did you actually film it?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

We were filming right now, a year ago. So yeah, I think exactly a year ago, we were flying into Fort Worth and uh having our media day, taking all the press, and then March 2nd was our very first show in Fort Worth that uh was the first episode that you guys saw. So it was filmed from March to the beginning of April, so like really relatively a short period of time. Right, right. Um, but we had to cancel everything because they said, well, if you want to be on the show, you don't know how long you're gonna be on, and we need your availability to be totally clear.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Well, it's funny because I got to meet you and interview you in Vegas. I also m interviewed Billy Joe in Vegas during NFR, and we had met her in Texas at Green Hall. Yeah. She opened for Jack Ingram and we met her there, and she was such a sweetie, and and we wanted to interview her there, but we just didn't have time. She didn't have time, and we were running out of time, and so we just and then I I accidentally saw that she was gonna be in Vegas, and I reached out and she said, Oh, absolutely. So anyway, it worked out really cool. And so then in the fall, in October of this year, they had the um Cowgirls at the Cowboy in Jackson Hole, Wyoming at the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar. So May Estes and Jenny Tolman were playing, and of course, Ella Langley was the headliner. We couldn't get tickets to Ella, she sold out in about 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

I bet.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

We got tickets to May and Jenny, and so I went over and I had reached out to both of them for interviews, didn't get any kind of a response. And then, of course, you know me, I'm not afraid to ask, and ask again and ask again. So I met them both in person and asked, and then May happened to be opening or playing at the real roundup in Las Vegas, which is where I did my interviews this year. Yeah. So I got to interview May, but she wasn't on the road, but she's very tight with all of us. She is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

We're we're close in that circle with her. It was fun while we were on the road to see just, you know, like the intermixing that we had and the network. Um I was really glad that they chose 12 country musicians that have been grinding and working. And, you know, we've all been at it a while. Uh, I'm not, you know, flattering myself and calling myself a pro, but like I have been doing it for quite a few years.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

And your whole life.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

I'm not just, you know, since you were two days old. Yeah, since two days old. I got a pretty good start on it. Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

You did. Yeah. Well, your mom is such a such a beautiful, talented artist, and and and started you young, right? Two days old on stage um because she didn't want to cancel an event. So I know. So she's a trooper and tough. And I got to meet your dad too. Yeah. Jeff's a great guy. We had a great conversation. And I'm trying to help him find a place here in Arizona so you can come just hang your hat here part way.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Yeah, there you go. See, like a little stop.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Yeah, yeah, you gotta stop here, and then you gotta stop in Idaho now at my place. And so you're always welcome to.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

I know. The band and I, we we get around. That's why we're the roadrunners, you know. I love that. That's literally all we do is just run down the road.

SPEAKER_03 10:39

Well, we can relate because Miss Shand and I put 50,000 miles on last year. Wow. Chasing live music and interviews for the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 10:47

Yeah, it's incredible though. I mean, you know, what a what a life, and I wouldn't trade it for the world. It's a lot of windshield time, but man, when you get to have the opportunities, the conversations, it's all worth it.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

How's uh how's your rancher husband handle your absentee?

SPEAKER_00 11:04

He does pretty he does pretty good. He's a super busy man himself, and so it's it's kind of a good match. He's got the ranch, he has a welding fabrication company that builds flatbeds and bumpers. Oh, and then he also manages like another farm equipment welding shop, and they make a lot of stuff for walnuts and olives and all of that harvest in Northern California. So he's busy. I think he's almost as busy as I am.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

You know, I I have a lot of background in that industry too. So I need to come over there. We need to make a trip over and check out your place and come see it and meet your well. I got to meet your husband in Vegas. You did, yeah. And uh, but I didn't realize he was in the manufacturing business and stuff. That's cool. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

You come hang out with us anytime. See the cows, meet the dogs, the whole shebang.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of cool country that we haven't got to see yet, and that's part of it. Now you were just you're close to Red Bluff.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

We are, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

We are now I've been to Red Bluff and I've been to the to the to the Bull and Gilding Sale and and uh uh their event. They had a cow horse deal there. Yeah, yeah, that was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

It's not a bad part of California. I never thought I'd live there, you know, growing up in Oregon and then still being a Texan. I still own a house in Texas. I try to spend as much time there as I can. That was my plan was to be a Texan, and then God, you know, throws in the curveball and he says, No, you've got a California cowboy. And yeah, so um, yeah, it's it's grown on me a lot, and I I feel like it's been pretty well redeemed that we're in the cowboy part of California for sure.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Where's your place in Texas again? You're up by Fort Worth, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Yeah, yeah, it's just outside of Granbury.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

Okay, yeah, that's a great area. Weatherford Granbury. I I fell in love with it. Yeah, big horse country, a lot of a lot of because I used to ride cutting horses, so I know a lot of those cutters in that area and stuff. So fun area. It is uh and the music scene in Texas is just fabulous, it's so good.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

I mean, it's it was definitely hard to leave, so I must love the guy, I guess. Because uh I mean the the Western world in Fort Worth in general and the music, it was tough to leave.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Nashville's pretty cool too. We've had the opportunity since we saw you last, we got to go to Nashville and spend some time and interview a we've interviewed a bunch of Nashville songwriters, so that's been really educational. We've learned a lot about the music business. We still only know that much. Um, but but we like to we like to share the stories. So let's hear a little bit more about the road. Absolutely. So, how did that come about in the first place? They reached out to you or did you apply, or how'd that work?

SPEAKER_00 13:27

So they reached out to me, and it's it's kind of a fun story because I got to play. Speaking of Fort Worth, I was asked to play a house concert uh for a sweet lady that I met through the Cowgirl Hall of Fame because obviously I love cowgirls, I'm trying to be involved with all things cowgirl, and so I played there and she found me. We chatted a while and she said, Well, I'm having a house concert for my husband's birthday, and uh it's gonna be like four couples, eight or ten people, and I'd really like to have you just come strum in our living room, sing some songs. I said, Okay, that sounds great. So the day came, and then she said, Well, we might have some some more higher profile folks here, you know. Just are you good? And I said, Oh, yeah, I'm good. I'm not gonna fangirl or freak out or anything, I'll be professional. And so in walks, Nick and Taylor Sheridan, which is wild. Wild, you know. I'm like, okay, um, great, I'll sing my songs, and and I mean the coach of TCU was there, Gary Patterson. There was like some really cool people there, but at the end of the day, I was hired to play music, and I never jumped to the conclusion that just because Taylor Sheridan heard me play, he's gonna use me. That's that's far-fetched for a music show.

SPEAKER_03 14:35

Were you aware of the music show coming? No, I'd not even heard about it. I'd not heard a sniff of it.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

No, I had not heard about it at all. Um, I thought, you know, wow, how cool would that be if he wanted me to be like an extra on a show. But still, if you've been in the music business long enough, you know, just because you meet somebody or or in the presence of someone, it doesn't really mean anything is gonna happen. You can chalk it up to a cool opportunity, but that's kind of the end. And so I mean, a couple months went by, and uh, you know, then I think it was nine or ten months after I'd done this house concert, and she calls me, and she kind of, you know, we BS'd a while, and then she got to the point and said, Well, Taylor Sheridan wanted to know if he could have your phone number. Is it okay if I send it to him? And I said, Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, you can you can definitely send him my phone number. So she did, and then a few minutes later he called me, and I still thought some mean friend of mine is pranking me, like this can't be real. But he's on the other side saying, Look, I'm putting together a show with uh Blake Shelton, and uh it's gonna be called The Road, and we're gonna take some musicians on tour. He didn't say how many, he didn't say anything about Keith Urban yet, Gretchen Wilson yet, none of that. Really? It was so broad. Uh, just basically, I'm putting together a music show, and I want to know if you're interested. And I said, Oh, absolutely. So, I mean, we got the ball rolling same that same day. I did an interview with the casting director, and then it was the holidays, so then they went on break and said, stew on that for three, four weeks, you know. You're just sitting there saying, What happened? What a whirlwind! Right, yeah, and then the new year came and um end of January, they took a bunch of us to Burbank and we did executive callbacks and interviewed in front of Blake and Taylor and the whole CBS crew, and then a few days after that they they chose who they were taking to take into the show.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

How many did they did they interview or bring to that event?

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Yeah, they they definitely had more than 12. Okay. Um, I I think it was around 27 that were in Burbank. And so, I mean, I remember I remember waking up and seeing the list in my email that morning that my flight was to Burbank, and I remember telling my husband, looking at the list, like, I believe in myself, yeah, but I know Brittany Kellogg, I know Adam Sanders, like I know Cody Hibbert, I know Billy Joe. And I said, There's no way they're gonna choose me. Like, there's just no way. I do believe in myself, but these guys are so good that they're you know and he said, You gotta give me the good ol' husband talk, and he said, You gotta believe in yourself. And I mean, what an opportunity. I didn't sleep the whole time I was there.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

I was just wound up tighter than a top, but well, you knew you knew what that did for Laney's right uh career to be on Yellowstone, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Um, you know, she got introduced to the the the the world on Yellowstone. Now, not that she hadn't been around a long time because she put in her time, right? Yeah, we all know you know Nashville's a 10-year town and she was well up to 10 years, but that being said, she that that only helped.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Yeah, oh absolutely. I so I think you know he has a plan, and when he kind of can fit you into his plan and make it work, he he's he's successful for a reason.

SPEAKER_03 17:51

Well, and he's brought he's brought a lot of Texas country music and red dirt music to the general pop you population who I mean you know turnpike troubadours are huge because of him. Uh, there's just a lot of music that's got out there because of Taylor. Absolutely. So hats off to Taylor. He's also done an American an amazing thing for the Western industry for sure and for Western fashion and for sure.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Agriculture, that's one of my favorite things to see thriving, is um, you know, a little bit more awareness of what it's like to be a cattle rancher or an agriculturalist. Uh, your food just doesn't show up at the grocery store. There's a lot that goes in behind the scenes, you know, and the things that we fight just to keep our properties running, whether it's cattle, whether it's, you know, grass seed, lettuce, orchards, there's a lot that goes in.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

Just the just the the political hoops we have to jump through to to defend our our our our rights as landowners and to keep producing. To keep be able to keep producing. Yeah, I was born and raised on a farm in Idaho and and been in the ag industry my entire life, even though I'm not currently, but I still have deep roots in ag, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Yeah, I I agree. So I mean he's done some wonderful things, uh really brought awareness that way, and then like you said, musically and even just like fashion. You see hats and boots popping up all over the place now, which is so well, even more so.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

I think in the last five to six years since Yellowstone, there's a lot more hats showing up in Nashville. There sure is showing up on the stages, there sure is. Yeah, than than used to because I think there was some stigmatism with with being a cowboy by Jill Billy Hicks.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

And I'll I'll tell you one of the funniest things, you know, I had no idea what to expect from being on national TV. That's not something you can really get a crash course in. And so I thought, well, this will just be interesting to see if it blows up or you know, whatever. And uh thankfully, you know, most people seem to like the music. I didn't have any too too bad of comments, but one gal she commented on one of my posts or somewhere that said, I wish you would lose the hat and quit being a Laney Wilson wannabe. And I thought I couldn't hold back. I thought, girl, I've been wearing a hat way longer than Lainey Wilson has been wearing a hat, or at least the same. There's a reason they call it a cowgirl hat, not a Lainey Wilson hat.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, it's it's interesting because I have a very dear friend who's in the hat business. Atwood. I'm gonna give a shout out to I love Brooks. So Brooks is a very dear friend of mine. We've been friends for a long time, and he makes sure that I'm if I'm not wearing an Atwood, I'm wearing a Sbradley. So Sradley's his very high-end hat. But but I I I used to, because I was in the rope business for 13 years, I used to wear a hat every day. Yeah. Almost every day. And and and uh our our grandkids call me cowboy, and I love that. And and I tell everybody, I'm an Idaho farm boy that always wanted to be a cowboy. And and fortunately for me, I was able to, you know, start to rodeo at a young age, and then I rode cutters for a living for five years, and we we've lived all over and experienced the the Western lifestyle, even though I'm not nearly as handy as a lot of guys I know, right? But I I'm I'm I'm way handier than most of those guys that we just wear a cowboy hat.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

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SPEAKER_00 21:50

I mean, I guess it depends on the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

I chose a cowboy. You know, I guess I figured I'm already a musician. Maybe I'll choose a cowboy.

SPEAKER_03 21:59

There you go. Yeah. Well, I I just I love that story about about the road and and just your story in general because you have such a unique story. Your mom is a is a very, very well recognized international western uh music star. She has she has she's a hall of famer in the International Western Music Association, right? Yeah. Um uh she has graced the stages of some amazing places.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

I know, right? I'm trying I have some really big booths to fill, so I'm trying.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

Well, let me ask you based on that, because I know your mom played Carnegie Hall, right? Okay, so what are your where's your favorite venue that you've played so far?

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Favorite so far. Um, you know, it's not always about the size or the notoriety of the venue. Uh for me, one of my favorites is a little place in Emigrant, Montana. It's called the Old Saloon.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

In there. Love it. Yeah, I love the old saloon. We love the old saloon.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

I mean, the crowd is always great.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

It's it's not there.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

It's it's fantastic. So put it on your bucket list if you haven't been.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

You have not been to Emigrant Montana, the old saloon. Michand and I, when COVID, when COVID lifted, we were so starved for live music that we got in the car and drove to Immigrant. Somebody was playing. We don't know who she was. To this day, we couldn't tell you who we went saw. Wow. But guess what? We went to see live music. I love it. And that was where it was available. Yeah. And so we've been up there, we've seen uh we saw Tanya Tucker there uh right after we started the podcast. Well, we hadn't even really done any interviews yet, but yeah, but uh we saw Tanya there, we saw Reckless Kelly and Mickey and the Motor Cars there.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

We've seen there's some great bands that are.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

Oh, they bring in a ton. They've had Charlie Crawford there, they've had uh not Charlie Crawford, Charlie Charlie.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

That's the roper.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

Yes, that is the rocket. Why? Because I'm a team roper, right? Immediately I go to Charlie Crawford.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

We were saying Cowboys and Musicians.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Yeah, yeah. So, but uh no, they've had some wonderful artists, but Tandy Tucker put on a hell of a show.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

She's she's a hip replaced two weeks ago. She really oh my gosh, what a champion!

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Yeah, yeah, amazing. So um so Immigrant Montana, I'd have to agree with you, it's a wonderful game.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

It's really it's unique, and you look out and you see the mountains. And I mean, if you go, especially in the Montana summer, yeah, it's so pretty. It's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Well, you're only about 30 miles from the from the main gate, one of the gates, uh, the east gate of the Yellowstone National Park.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Right. And like 30, 40 minutes from Bozeman, you know, it's an easy drive back there.

SPEAKER_03 24:27

It's Livingston. Livingston's a yeah, Livingston has a wonderful songwriter festival, you know, in the fall. Yeah. And uh along with Red Lodge has one and and Whitefish.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, I one day I'm hoping maybe I'll get on some of those. But um, you know, the Grand Old Opry is one that I would love to play. I got to stand on the stage of the Ryman, not play it, but stand, and that was really special. Um, you know, I think any favorite venue is truly one where the fans are listening. Because you can I could play belly bobs, and if they didn't give a rip, it would not be my favorite show. It wouldn't be my favorite, you know, memory. It's when they sit and listen and they take it in, or maybe they're singing it back to you, or you can tell you kind of got them in the palm of your hand. That's that's when I know I'm like, that's a favorite for me.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

It's hard, it's hard to go to those events and have be into the music and have somebody behind you talking.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Right.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

You know, and and uh I tell the story a lot, but you know, uh Django Walker told us that Jerry Jeff told him, he said, if you're gonna do this, you do it because you love it. Because you're gonna have some guy back in the back talking louder than you're playing. Oh, yeah. And you're gonna be playing a song that you wrote that you love, you're gonna be playing Texas on my mind, and they're gonna think that you're singing a Pat Green song, and he is, but he wrote it. Yep, you know, but but you're gonna get pissed and want to whip somebody, and you can't do that. So just just do it because you love it, and we do this because we love it.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Absolutely. There's no better reason to do something because if it was because it was easy or because of the glory, or you're making big money, we would have had to stop so long ago. It's it's way more difficult than the days are easy.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Yeah, yeah. We definitely don't do this for the money, yeah. And we definitely don't do it because it's easy. Because there's I actually there's days I work harder than I did when I had a real job.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yeah. Oh, I know. That's that's the one thing that's my hot take is when people say, Oh, so like, do you have a real job? And I'm always like, I don't cuss you out right now. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Well, I saw your post yesterday at three o'clock in the morning on your way here. See, people don't realize they don't see that part of this.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

It's a real job.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

Three o'clock, and you're not on a tour bus with somebody driving your pretty little carcass here. No, you're not like you were on the road.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Oh, I know that was so spoiled. They were like, How is this? Oh, you guys did you enjoy it? And I'm like, heck yeah, I enjoyed it. I mean, I got drove around, I had my own room, I didn't have to share a house with stinky band boys that they just plug in my guitar and give me my perfect monitor mix, like yeah. I mean, you kind of gotta get used to the cow the the big cameras being there, but more than that. Yeah, piece of cake.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

So you wouldn't, you you you're you do it again growing everything.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

Absolutely do it again. Yeah, and I wouldn't change who I was or the songs I chose.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

No, well, we were proud of you.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Thank you, thank you. I I know that I wasn't the best fit for Keith Urban, and that's okay. Yeah, I I've never and I respect him and I admire what he does. He's a heck of an entertainer, so talented at what he does, but I have never said that's who I want to be or that's who I want to go on tour with, just because I know that I would be much better suited for I would I would keel over if I got to open for Ian Munsick or uh Cody Johnson, George Strait. Those are the people that I love and look up to. Turnpike. Uh I saw Dave Stamy walking around. I played some with him. He's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 27:50

He came up and shook my hand. I got to interview him. Yeah. Uh last year in Elko. So we we love we love Stamy. We've probably seen Stamy eight or ten times.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

And he's so great. And so those are the people that I want to be like. Yeah. Susie Bogas, I could go on, but um, Keith Urban is great, but it's not an insult to me that I didn't make it farther.

SPEAKER_03 28:10

No, and I and I and I think and I think most people really truly appreciate that about you is that you were very genuine and you you fit, but you didn't fit that fan base. Yeah. Because those people came based on Keith Urban. They did. And then you're performing, you're you're the you're the you're the the dancing chicken, if you will. Yeah, oh I know.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Yeah, they had to have a little bit of everything. Um, you know, just like one of my favorite guys on the show was was Forrest. I loved Forrest. He's kind of majority.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

He's very quirky and kind of, yeah, I loved him too.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

But he's not a Keith Urban opener either, you know.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

So well, and honestly, Channing was not a he's not a Blake Shelton looking kind of guy either, right? He's just but he's had a lot of success in the songwriting world and he's written some great hits. Yeah. Um, but they everybody on there had their own unique talents to lend to the show, and which makes it very unique.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

And and if you're all cookie cutter, right? And I think that's what sometimes Nashville has a tendency to do. Well, Laney Wilson. You should be and act and sound just like Lainey, and where's your bell bottoms, and you know what I mean. And and and I love everything about Lainey Wilson. Absolutely, but I love her because she's Lainey Wilson. Yes, I love Olivia because she's Olivia Harms.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

Absolutely. Well, you couldn't have said it better. And I mean, each artist on on the show was was talented, they deserved to be there, and that's the other thing is they were all genuinely good people. There was not a bad egg. Uh, you know, there's people that you'd naturally hit it off with more than others, sure, but none of them were bad eggs. I I call them all dear friends now. We kind of had a little family going because they're going through this little bubble experience, right? And we were all sincerely sad each time somebody left the bus.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

Sure, sure. Well, and and uh hats off to Billy Joe, she was sick, really sick plus her lily part, uh really kind of trying to muck it through on that. Yeah, she did pretty damn good for being as sick as she was.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

I would say so.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

But uh no, you all did great, and I I just loved it. And the minute we saw you were on there, I'm like, I know that girl. She's been on my podcast. I know that girl, she's been on my podcast. So we were sharing them and going, hey, tune in and you know how to pick the pick the artists, I guess, huh? Yes, I guess so. We knew how to pick you and Billy Joe.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

I thought maybe Taylor called you and said, Hey, who should I choose?

SPEAKER_03 30:27

I I actually have not officially met Taylor. We were in the men's restroom together at Tannehill one time.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Okay. Well, I'm saying counts, huh?

SPEAKER_03 30:37

Uh no, and no, we have a really good uh one of my really good friends was uh was on Yellowstone. He's been all of these all in as a stunt man. So Cooper Taylor, that's Buck Taylor's side. Oh, awesome. And and so anyway, but uh no, it's been it's it's been a lot of fun to get to know you and and follow your career. Thanks. And so so where are we going from here? You're just gonna beat up the road? We keep doing it.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Yeah, there ain't no quitting us. We just keep going.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

So you said you are gonna be up in Idaho April, May, something?

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Uh May and June. Yeah. So it's things are starting to pick up again for my schedule. Um, March is looking busy. I'm headed to Nashville. I'm gonna record some new music. Uh, there's a couple new ones, you know. So next time I'm on, I'll have new music for you. Okay. Um, and then gosh, yeah, some other I'm going to the Santa Clarita cowboy gathering. That's what Dave staying do. That's gonna be fun. And then a big Montana, Idaho, Wyoming tour and in May and June. And then I think I get to go to Norway with my mom in July and play a festival.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

Norway'd be a good place to be in July.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

I know. Probably nice and cool in Norway. It'd be a little cooler than here, hopefully.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

So well, fun. Well, Olivia, thanks for taking time to join us again. It's always great. Uh, we look forward to to, like I say, to follow you, and we look forward to your visit in Idaho. And once again, that offer is 100%. It's your no questions asked.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Be careful. Be careful what you wish to do.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

Oh, no, no. And we we we even have a couple groceries, and I'm a pretty good cook, so is Miss Shanda. So, so we'll feed you and take care of you. Deal. And maybe you can give me some guitar lessons.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

I think that's a heck of a deal.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

All right. Well, hey, listen, thank you again so much.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

You got any any other songs in the bag for me today? Since you're still holding that too.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

Let's see. How about a new one? Huh? Okay. I'll tempt you.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Okay. All right. So this one, uh, set it up. We'll set it up for you. Uh, I was driving through West Texas in November. And if anybody has ever driven through, which I'm sure you have, West Texas, there ain't nothing to look at. So you set the cruise and you're just kind of rolling on, and uh, you kind of let your mind wander. And I was getting closer and closer to El Paso, which always puts me in kind of a Marty Robbins mood. There you go. And so I was thinking, oh gosh, you know, I love Ghost Riders in the Sky. What a classic song that is. I know tons of people have done it, but I love Marty's version. And anyway, I started thinking, well, what would be the female perspective on this song? You know, like what if she was dating one of them? And maybe he goes to the four sixes and she hates it out there. And then before you know it, you've got this whole story cooked up, and I figured I better write a song about it.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

So perfect. Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Here you go. Out in the West Texas range at night. Might have heard a story about ghost riders in the sky, just to tell the cowboys tell when the sun goes down. I swear I still hear him riding round Thought I had a love I promised in my heart. Drag me out to Guthrie said that's where we'd make her start. It was nothing like the life he promised together. I left him alone out there. Now he'll haunt me forever. Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

I can hear him cry. Ooh he's riding in the sky.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Aw, now we have Fiddle Man. You just imagine the fiddle, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 34:22

I can imagine.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Oh yeah. I moved back to Fort Worth, but he wouldn't come with me. Damned old cowboy life, just wouldn't set him free. Heave his heart and soul to a ranch, he'll never own him. Heard he died a broken heart and lies beneath a stone.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

Ooh I can hear him cry. Ooh ooh he's riding in the sky Visits me in dreams as I reach out for his hand.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

He rides off on a red-eyed room, still riding for the brand.

SPEAKER_02 35:31

I can hear him cry. Ooh he's riding in the sky.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

He's still riding in the sky.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

He's still riding in the sky.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Oh yeah. Thank you so much. What a cool song. Oh, thank you. I love that. Thank you. I love that. Looking forward.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Oh, you bet. You bet.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

Are you gonna release it as a single heep?

SPEAKER_00 36:07

I haven't decided yet, but I'm gonna go record it in March, so I'll keep you posted.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

Man, looking forward to it. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Hey, for musical. Oh yeah, where are they finding all your music?

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Oh yeah. Uh Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you like to follow people. I'm there. Just Olivia Harms. Olivia Harms. Absolutely. Wherever you like to. And uh, yeah, man, I'm tempted to take this thing with me.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Well, you might have to wrestle me.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

Yeah. Very good. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Well, next time you drive through southern Utah or Central Utah, Provo.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

I'm gonna go have to check out close. Yeah. This is great.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

Yeah. I will let them know. They might be reaching out to you. All right. Hey, for Musical Models Podcast, I'm going to do this beautiful young lady, Olivia Holmes. We'll see you all somewhere in the road.