Jared Rogerson: Where Rodeo and Music Collide

Wyoming artist Jared Rogerson joins us for Episode 196, bringing with him the grit, stories, and authenticity of a life lived both in and out of the rodeo arena. A former bareback bronc rider turned Nashville recording artist, Jared has built his music on real-life experiences—blending cowboy country with a rock edge that hits home for anyone who’s ever chased eight seconds and paid the price.

We dive into his journey from the high country of Wyoming to stages across the country, talking about the influence of rodeo on his songwriting, the evolution of his sound, and what it means to stay true to your roots in today’s music industry. With multiple albums under his belt and a growing national following, Jared represents a brand of country music that’s honest, rugged, and unapologetically Western.

This episode is packed with stories, laughs, and a whole lot of cowboy perspective you won’t want to miss.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey music lovers, welcome to Musical Miles Podcast. I'm your host, Byron Duffin, and I am here with Mr. Jared Rogerson. Great to be here. Welcome. Yeah, thanks for having me. Good to meet you. Uh so we we found out about you through some friends of ours in uh Blackfoot. We were at a birthday party here a while back, and uh Kimberly gave me your card. And she said, We saw this guy play at 10 sleep and we told him about your podcast and that you needed to interview him. And so, anyway, that's how that connection. Matt Stevenson. Okay, he's a cattle buyer there in Blackfoot and a longtime family friend. And so, anyway, they they shared your information, and that's kind of how but you live in Pinedale. I do. Are you originally from Pinedale? I'm not, I've been there uh 21 years. Okay, you've been there year. So you know my buddy Wade Tibbetts. Oh, yeah. I've known Wade since he was a little kid.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Yeah, his brother Ben and I were good friends. I ran into him in Blackfoot as well, and uh random places, Eureka, Nevada, and all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've known him uh a long time and that whole family. So good family. Great people, yeah, really, really great people. But uh um, so you've been in in uh over there in Pinedale for for uh but we're in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, actually. Not too far away, not too far. So from Pinedale, what are you, an hour and a half? Yeah, 80, 80 miles. 80 miles, yeah. It's kind of a two-lane windy road, and you gotta watch out for the elk and the deer. And the moose. And the moose, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Uh well, I see moose crossings all over coming over the hill, because we just live on the other side south of Otto Falls. We live in in Shelley, 10 miles south of Otto Falls. Okay, so close to Blackfoot, and and uh, but uh uh we come over here quite a bit, but I've seen all these moose crossings, I've never seen a moose. Oh, okay. And maybe I need to go to Pinedale more. Yeah, do it, do that tonight, right about dark, you know. I'm good, I'm good. But I also know about being over there, so about yeah, at the cowboy shop, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Oh they've been uh yeah, supporting me for a long time, been a been a big help over the years. Good, good people, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

So uh let's talk about Jared's musical career because you've got you've been at it a while.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

I mean, yeah, I think uh pushing uh pushing 15 years. 15 years, you know, you don't know when the official launch of the career was because it was kind of a gradual process, but yeah, I've been playing out publicly, yeah, for since like 2011, I guess. Okay, yeah. Cool, cool. So who really influenced your music growing up? Oh, I I mean, I think hands down the answer there is Chris Ladie. Chris Ladiew. Yeah. I mean, you know, I grew up your bare back rider well and uh discovered his music when I was in in high school. And uh, you know, I I I don't think there's any music that has influenced not just my musical style, but really my whole life, you know. Sure. Than than his stuff. So bareback rider, turned musician. Yeah, I I remember I wanted to be a a country singer songwriter from the time I was in uh well, I remember second grade career day. Oh, really? You know, they you they try to you know help you find what your path is, and I they gave you a folder, and of course I drew a picture of me with a guitar on stage, and that was I was I was heading that way. That's pretty good in second grade.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

So yeah, that's really good. Well, you you know, Chris influenced so many, so many. Obviously, he influenced influenced Chansey Williams, he he influenced uh Kenny Fiddler, you know Kenny. Yeah, Kenny. We've we've had him on and and and had some great visits with a lot of these artists that all you know, especially the ones who who have a background in the rodeo world, right? You know, yeah. You know, I was I tried to ride bareback horses, but was never any good at it, right? So, but I I learned really quick that I was no good at it. So I picked picked up a rope and stuck with rope and gaz and team rope and so, but but still loved Chris's music. You know, we just we wore out those Chris Ledou tapes, you know, going to the rodeos, just like the song, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

I I consider myself part of a Chris Ledou generation, really, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Yeah, well, we just talked. You you just ran into Ned uh this week up and yeah, unexpectedly. That was cool. Great guy, great guy, and he's got such a cool story, you know. And and so, you know, being uh the son of a of the legend Chris Ledue, and most people don't know this, but you know, he never had any intention of being a front man. You know that because you've been around him, but until after his dad died. How crazy is that story?

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Yeah, it's it's so cool though. Yeah, I mean, he's doing such a great job, and you know, and putting out, you know, kick carrying on the legacy, but putting out his own stuff and building upon that. It's just uh it's incredible and inspiring to watch. We've done a few shows with those guys over the years, and it's always a lot of fun. Oh, I'm sure. And they draw just the right crowd, you know, I'm sure for our stuff as well. Sure, sure. Well, cool.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Well, so uh do you started out playing the guitar uh when you were young, and uh and that's kind of what have you have you ventured very far away from the guitar, or are you pretty much a guitar player?

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Yeah, uh pretty much a guitar player. I I think uh I dabbled in a little piano. I still like to try to do that, but I haven't busted what out on that on stage anyways, you know. But I'd like to at some point. Um, but mostly guitar, and I've been doing that over the years, but even before that, I I was into the songwriting first. Okay. That was that was my my thing, and I uh I don't know. I I singing, you know. I mean, you grow up singing, all kids do, I guess, and eventually some quit and some don't. Uh I I did my best singing in the shower. No, we all and uh but I like to make up songs, and I always did, and I don't it it was years before I actually wrote one down.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Were you one were you like, you know, I I mean my I find myself even still, you know, making up words to to songs that we know, right? I mean the stuff you guys know that's how y'all start, right? Well, I'm an old man, so I'm but but so have you gotten into the songwriter festivals at all? Have you done any like songwriter rounds? Have you spent much time in Nashville?

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Have you I I've uh haven't. I've I've done Nashville usually just for recording work. Okay. I haven't uh played played there. Um I've done some songwriting rounds at uh some other you know, cowboy festival types of things and that sure uh other things, but uh uh yeah, I I love this. I love you know, I usually play with my band anymore, but every once in a while I'll still get like an acoustic listening room where you get a sit down and tell the stories and and those just uh there just isn't anything better. Yeah, you know, you get a you get so much more into the song.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Well and we talked a little bit about that in some venues, and we won't mention any venues, but but that being said, you go to some venues and the people are there to drink and chat with their friends and try and pick up women, right? They're not there for the music. And you know, we we interviewed an artist and he told me, you know, his dad was a uh a great, well, Jerry Jeff Walker. So Jerry Jeff's son Django, and he he said, Jerry Jeff told him, he said, Don't do this unless you love it, because you're gonna be in a bar somewhere playing your a song that you wrote that means the world to you, and some Jack Wagon's gonna be in the back shooting his mouth off and and being loud and obnoxious, and you're gonna want to get off the stage and whip him. And he said, That's not very conducive to a successful career in the music industry if you want to get invited back. So um, you know, it's it's it's something that, but we find the music the the songwriter festivals are like you said, they're more intimate. You're in a a room with 40 people, there's maybe one or two other songwriters on stage with you. You get to tell the backstory, right? And that's really what we're after on this podcast is Jared's backstory. Nice, nice. And and and we want to know what really what gets you out of bed in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Is it the songwriting and and yeah, I I think of myself as a songwriter first, and that's uh I love you know the creative process. I think that's what really drives me to keep going, and uh and as the music part of it as well, but uh they kind of go in hand in hand when it comes to you know, yeah, writing words and and melodies together and coming up with that.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

Well, you know, we ask this question a lot because that's that's really the part that intrigues me about the music is the songwriting process, um, uh, you know, how that how that comes, and everybody is different, right? So uh I know you co you've collaborated. In fact, you collaborated with a very famous artist, John Fogarty. You co-wrote a song with John, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Yeah, yeah. How cool is that? Probably not the John you're thinking about. Oh, there's more than one John Fogarty in the side.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

Seriously, okay. Well, it was bold and black. I thought, man, that's that's uh no, cool. So not from CCR.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

No. No, there's uh another John Fogarty. He was uh at least as equally talented. Um happens to be his name. From where? Um we met in Pinedale. Okay. And then he lives over in uh Colorado now. Okay, and uh just uh an amazing talent, credible voice, and a heck of a songwriter.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

And so well that that I listened to that song you two wrote, and it's quite the song, right? Yeah, it's got a quite a story to tell. Which one's that? Well, the the okay, the the Side of the Road. Side of the road, yeah. That's the one.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Wow. Is that your story? Uh, you know, um my dad was in construction, he was a carpenter, and I I remember just the line, I've driven a million nails. Yeah. And uh I I started writing a song about that, but I really wanted to write something that uh uh told the story, you know. There's just uh like the the fentanyl crisis and everything that's going on in the overdoses in the country right now. I I really there's sort of a stigma when we talk about addictions and different things like that. And I I just wanted to paint the picture that we all need each other, we need each other's help, and really this could happen to anyone. So I just started telling a story about a uh fictitious story about someone that this sort of just happened and and how and painted the picture of how it could happen to anyone. Of course, I looped in John because uh he's he's got some of the uh experience in the construction world as well, and I thought he could relate, and uh he just uh was an incredible co-writer.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

It's a great song and it tells a great story, and you know, addiction uh impacts all of us.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're all affected by it, and we all know know of people, and uh um I think that's uh the important thing is music. We we like to we like to write a drinking song and a rodeo song, but I there's other other songs too that sometimes when we have the the ability and the microphone in front of us, we can uh do a little bit to help improve the world, you know?

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Oh yeah, yeah. Uh interestingly enough, I just saw a deal today. Uh uh a band out of Europe um that said this was gonna be their last tour here in the United States because of how the music industry's changed. They've been touring for 30 years and they said, look, it's really changed. And the only way you're gonna help support these artists is to buy a ticket to their show, support them at the merch table, whatever it takes, you know, put a put a 20 in the tip jar because you know it never killed anybody to put 20 bucks in there. Most more often than not, they're gonna come into a bar that's that's paying you to be here. There's maybe there's a cover tonight, I don't know if there is, but if there is, even at that, uh it's pretty cheap entertainment. And and you never know when when uh you know that song you're gonna sing is gonna impact somebody and really change their their lives. You know, music music is such an uh a powerful tool.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

It is, yes, you know, that's how we connect with each other, really, in a lot of ways, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Yeah. Well cool. So um back to the back to the collaboration. So now do you do you write much on your own?

SPEAKER_01 12:09

I do, yeah. I I write a lot of stuff. In fact, a lot of stuff over the years has been been on my own. Um but uh more recently I've seen the value in co-writing, you know, just uh sometimes you get other folks' perspective. Sure. Um, you know, I'm always writing a song from the time I think it's finished to the time I get to the studio, it it's still evolving all the way there, even if it's just minor little things and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

I think that's the nature of because they they have their own life, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Right, they do, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So um sometimes uh, you know, working with someone else, you sort of can skip some of those steps, you know, things that you eventually maybe would have thought of, but they saw it right off. You're sometimes too close to the problem.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Right, right, right. Well, and and I think oftentimes, you know, it's interesting because as I said, we've talked to artists that are it's very personal, they don't want to share that reason that that that job with anyone else because they are so in the middle of it, right? They want to tell their story. Um, and yet we've also been in Nashville with uh in some of the songwriting uh groups where they sit down with two or three or four other artists and they hammer out a song and and and you know, and the challenge with that is that it's not always doesn't always have a real personal story behind it, it's just a song.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

But maybe there's some little they thread in some of their personal stuff in there, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

And they and they do, and I think maybe the difference in my approach is uh is I've done a little of that in some of those writing sessions, but I just need time to chew on it for a little bit, you know, and uh I really need to feel like I own that song. If this is something I'm gonna record, uh it does have have to be personal. I gotta feel it. Okay. Sometimes just uh inserting those little pieces of me throughout, um, even if I didn't write every line or it isn't my exact story, it it helps for you to own it. You need to own it, so you've got something there.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

You've got to have to as you share it, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Authenticity is important, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Well, I think that that's yeah, that's always that's always an interesting perspective because everybody is different, and and you know, to take someone else's words and song in their experience and then you share it is a little different. And most people don't realize, I shouldn't say most, but a lot, I think the percentage is fairly high, that they don't realize that the songwriter or that the the artist is not usually the guy who wrote the song, right? Right. Um, you know, they they look at they look at they look at some of these bigger artists and they go, you know, oh well he writes his own music, and that's not the case. Yeah. In in some situations. Do you um uh so speaking of songwriters, who I know you you're Chris is an idol, and Chris was a songwriter, but who else do you look up to as a songwriting?

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Um probably a lesser known, underappreciated guy that I really, really looked up to and uh has been a mentor, and a good friend of mine is a guy out of Utah named Bren Hill.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

Know him. Do you yeah, interviewed him? He's a great guy, and he's he shared the story about one hand in the rigging. Okay, I've been familiar with that story for a long time. No one knew that I shouldn't say no one, you knew it. Those who are close to Brenn and and to uh uh the you know Chris's family, Ned and and those guys, there they were well aware of it. But funny story, when I interviewed Ned a year ago, about now, we were just a few weeks away from going to the NFR and he said, Oh, I have a new rodeo song, a new single we're releasing The Week of the NFR. And he leaves it at that. He left me hanging, he didn't tell me the whole story, and so then I get to Vegas and I hear it playing on the radio, and I'm like, My hell, that's a duet with Chris. How how did he leave that out? And I don't know that he intentionally left it out, just but but then I interviewed Bran at the Cowboy Poetry Gathering and he shared the whole story.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Wow, yeah, yeah. Go go back and listen to that one, right? Oh, wow. Yeah, that's that's an incredible story. So Bran is just uh an incredible uh talented songwriter, and uh I worked with him on my first you know big album, Peace, Love, and Horses, that came out in 2011.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

And uh, I was gonna say, so you've cut six, right? Six albums or six?

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Yeah, something like that. I yeah, yeah. What the first one was a home recording, so I don't know if we count that one or not. And then uh right after that I worked with Bren, who co-produced my first big sort of album that came out in 2011, and he was a he was just a huge help. And yeah, I learned so much about songwriting from him, uh, really getting them polished and making them something great guy, too. He's just such a cool guy. In fact, he and I just had a duet come out. I don't know if you did you really no, I did not know that. Yeah, uh, it was a song that Brynn wrote, um, and I had released it on the previous album, and we had intended to do it as a duet for some time, and we finally uh finally got it cranked out and had a lot of fun. There's a video to go with it. Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

I'll have to check that out. Yeah. Well, we we uh yeah, we we are really so intrigued by the songwriter festival deal that I want to do one in Idaho Falls. I think Idle Falls has a downtown that can do it, right? If you've if you've been to the one in Red Lodge or Cody or Livingston, you know, the downtown areas really have to be conducive to a songwriter festival with the venues. Sure. Um, and so I think I think Idle Falls can do it. It has a beautiful theater for the main event, you know. Yeah, they can they can uh seat a thousand people. We just saw Pam Tillis there and nice and but but I and one of the first guys I reached out to about it was Bran. So Brent, I want to uh bring Brent in and then uh uh Bryce uh uh Long. Do you know Bryce? Sounds familiar. Maybe so so Bryce um Bryce wrote uh Heartache on the Dance Floor with uh John Party, and he's also uh helped produce some stuff with Chansey. Okay, so he lives in Nashville, but excellent. Uh lots and lots of cuts. But anyway, I I really, really wanna I'm thinking about that. So you're you're a close guy. We'll have to see if we can't get you to come over and join us. That'd be a lot of fun, yeah. Yeah, so you know, but uh so any other major songwriters that had any impact on you that you can think of?

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Um man, I have to think about it for a minute. Um, but yeah, defin definitely those are the top two. Okay, sure, yeah. Cowboy singers.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta go back. Well, and Dave Stamy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We we got to sit down with Dave. Uh we've sat down with some great in the in the in the Western, you know, international western artists, uh um, like Stamey and Joni Harms and Olivia, you know, her daughter, and and uh some other great artists, but but uh I think back at the to the Texas songwriters, the old school Texas songwriters like Guy Clark. Oh there you go, yeah. You know, Towns Vanz and Pancho and Lefty, how do you beat that song?

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No kidding. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you're you're dogging my memory now.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Well, and and not everybody thinks about those, but you know, the the guys the guys in Texas do. You know, they they they because they had such an impact on on the music scene in Texas, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Like that they have impacted uh more than just yeah, individuals and their songwriting, it in impacted music as a whole, and oh yeah, yeah, incredible.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

Crazy, crazy world. But um anyway, well cool. So uh uh how many how many dates are you trying to get in under your belt every year? Oh man, I would I would love to always do more.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Sure. More and bigger and better, right?

SPEAKER_02 19:52

See, and some some artists are going, yeah, I'd like to do less.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

But yeah, I I think it's pretty modest. I'm in there between 50 and 60 a year. Okay. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I would I could handle a few more. Sure. Yeah. It's it's kind of feast or famine as well, you know. The summer gets so busy and you're just go, go, go, and then all of a sudden, you know, November hits and it's kind of like, what do I do?

SPEAKER_02 20:14

What happened now? Yeah. So do you do you do do you still do some day work stuff at all, or are you just trying to do music 100%?

SPEAKER_01 20:22

I I do do some day work, and I think most uh independent artists have to, you know. Um so I've I've got uh a job that is busiest in the winter time. Okay. Out uh capturing elk. Okay. Out in the wild. Okay. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

You don't venture over into the Gravant, do you, with old Jay Hogan? Oh yeah. Yeah. I know Jay from the rodeo days. Yeah, Jay Jay and I, Jay and I grew up uh we were the same age, so we rodeoed at the same time. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I've been around Jay his whole life, most of his life.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

I used to ride his bareback horses, so yeah, yeah, Jay's a good guy. So get out that way, way sometimes in a little bit. Um, another thing I've started doing is with all of the AI stuff, artificial intelligence and uh AI song just made the top country, whatever. How crazy is that? I know, it's just mind-blowing. And to me, it seems that the value of real things is just going to increase because it's gonna be that's gonna be so prevalent that uh, you know, live music is gonna be something people are gonna have to have in those interactions. Yeah. So I I actually started creating some things uh with my my fan base and sort of my music community to offer like VIP experiences and mentorships and songwriting.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Listen, I think you're you're on on track with Django Walker. You need to go watch the episode we just released with Django at the Braun Brothers reunion. He's talking about the very same thing. You know, he says, Look, you know, we we you know, I hate to pick on any one streaming platform because they all host our podcast as well. So So, which they don't pay me anything. You're getting a little tiny bit. I'm getting nothing from them. But nonetheless, uh, it's just killed the the you know, it's you go back to the M MTV. You remember the very first video that was launched on MTV? It was uh Video Picture, right? Well, and and and we interviewed Dale Watson, and Dale said, you know what happened to uh honky tonk music in California? And I said, No what? And he said they stomped it to death, right? Line dancing, which you know comes into play with uh with the the the AI music, it's just beats, right? The DJs and stuff and them and the mixes, and and so you know that that whole thing, and we love all types of music, right? But uh but I think you're right 100%, and so does Django. Django believes, look, at some point he's gonna pull you know, he talks about pulling all his music off Spotify and having his own streaming uh platform. Look, you pay me$995 a month, and if I get 500 followers, that's way better than than what I'm getting paid by Spotify. Yeah, you know, and I mean he told me, you know, he wrote the he wrote the the the Texas University of Texas uh song, right? The the Longhorn song, and he said he in in 13 years he's been paid it was like$12,000 in 13 years, and it's got like 1.3 million streams. You know, so that that that that really puts it in perspective for an artist. So there's not very many artists that and and he's been a very successful songwriter in his own right. Yeah, you know, his dad was a great songwriter, but he he you know, he has cuts with Pat Green, he has cuts with Jimmy Buffett, he had cuts with Alabama, and you know, here's a guy going, hey, if I had 500 loyal customers pay me 10 bucks a month, yeah, it makes a difference.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Yeah, so yeah, that's exactly what I've kind of got started. Just just launched it actually a few weeks ago, and so there's been some uh pretty cool interest, and people are responding.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Good. This episode is brought to you by Tin Hall, Western style with an edge, bold design, fearless attitude, and boots that make a statement. Discounts available when you click our sponsor link at musical miles podcast.com. Spawning well, so I like to hear that because I think independently, as an independent artist without a label to back you up, um unless you're Baker Blankenship and you get, you know, 30 million streams and you start headlining at 19 years old. I mean, he's just a he's an internet phenom, you know, and there's there's a handful of them, but there's not very many of them when you compare to the artists that are out there.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Right. And you know, I think there's you know, to to be able to continue doing the thing and putting the stuff out there for the people, right? I mean, it's it's it's for everybody. Um it there's a lot of overhead. Yeah, oh yeah, a lot of expenses to keep that trucking.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

So and you gotta you gotta keep that fan base happy because if you're not generating new right new music, um they're gonna go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yeah, so it's just another way to provide more more stuff, more value in it than just listen to a song. But uh, you know, well I like it.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

I think hang out together. I think I think you're on the right track. And even even he said, look, you know, if if if those 500 members or it gets up to 2,000, but we do a we'll we'll come do a home show at your place, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

You know, those those those kind of deals.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

So I remember my incentive to start playing music and recording and playing out is uh I needed$500. I just needed$500. If I could make$500, that would change the world. Really? And I and I started playing, and uh over that time, six albums. I've toured in Europe, uh played all over the country, met so many cool people, people that were my heroes are now my friends, and and the connections have been so amazing, just unexpected things. And uh the ironic thing is I'm still waiting on that extra 500 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

So well, it it I don't think you're alone. I really honestly don't think you're alone. And I and once again, we you know, as many artists as we've interviewed, um there's lots of people rolling around and they're dodge-duly, you know, it's wore out and and uh and and still trying to get that, you know, scratch that itch, right? You bet and and make that extra 500 or or or 10,000, you know, you get that you get that song that's gonna take you viral, is what you hope for, right? We all hope for that. So well, cool. Yeah, well, it's been fun to get to know you, and I and and and I wish we had more time. They're gonna kick us out of here because they're gonna start serving in this restaurant. But before we get out of here, yeah, grab this. Uh, this is a close guitar. It's called K-L-O-S. And uh two brothers in Provo, Utah started this company, and uh, there's your pick. Or I don't know what Camel. It's not insane. You go, Camel, and uh, and they uh anyway, they started this company in 2012, I think. And they built uh they build solid body guitars, they build ukulele's, they build uh mandolins. I don't know what the bracing looks like. I haven't really explored it very much. Yeah, I'm not seeing it. There's any bracing in there. It's amazing. But this is uh this is a carbon fiber, and it is called their timber carbon, carbon timber, because it has that look of wood. Uh the other one that I had originally for I just had it for a week was uh a woven carbon fiber. So wow, but I think it has a great and it's nickel-infused.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Oh wow, so amazing, very cool. Yeah, alongside so so set it up. Tell us what you're gonna play. Yeah, um, just this guitar's pretty cool. I I've got a song here that is actually a co-write. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Um, you know Vanessa Carpenter I do know Vanessa, she's been a guest on her podcast as well, one of our early guests, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah, she she approached me about a song that uh an idea she had, and uh it was kind of during the uh COVID times and we were all zooming, right? So uh all of a sudden I was riding with people that live far away, and she lived over in Idaho. And uh, anyways, uh she had an idea for a song, and it quickly evolved because it reminded me of somebody I knew, a guy I used to rodeo with and travel with. His name was Jason Olsen, and he was a senior pro uh champion. He was uh sort of my mentor growing up when I was getting into bareback riding. He was already a high school and college champ. Okay, and uh and then he, you know, eventually hung it up like we all did, but then he busted out and just started doing it again like crazy. And uh, I was always inspired by him, and uh a guy that really got beat up a lot and uh always found a way to bounce back. Okay. So, anyways, this song is called uh well, I'll I'll just let you hear what it's called when I'm playing. How about that?

SPEAKER_02 29:03

Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

He'll be putting on a show. They all know this living legend at the local rodeo. The rodeo queen is batting her eyes, he just tips his head and smiles at her and lets her pass on by. He tries real hard to speak the truth, doesn't take the gossip for throwing stones, has no time for breaking hearts, he's too busy breaking bones. Twas about 7:30 another town a week ago, that eight second buzz rain, but he couldn't let go, his teeth were clenched as he was picking on his friends, saying where were you on that one? They popped his shoulder back in. He tries real hard to speak the truth, doesn't take the gossip for throwing stones, has no time for breaking hearts, he's too busy breaking bones, and the story continues. Here we go. Well, he didn't disappoint, he put on a show and maintained his legend status at the local rodeo. A starry-eyed nurse cleans his wounds with alcohol as they present his first place buckle at the local hospital, at the local hospital, he tries real hard to speak the truth, done take the gossip for throwing stones, has no time for breaking hearts, he's too busy, he's too busy breaking bones, busy breaking bones, busy breaking bones.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

Awesome, awesome, awesome. What do you think of that guitar? Oh man, that sounds great. Tip it forward and look at this neck. You see this that unbolts. You can you can put that that breaks down into a backpack. Wow, and you put that in the overhead in a hair point in a suitcase without breaking it. You know gosh. It's uh that was it, that was the whole concept. So this is their um yeah, grand concert now uh with a cutout. And so, but anyway, um, yeah, I just picked it up yesterday. I just barely played it this morning. It was the first time I played it. It's beauty, it is beauty, it's it's beauty. Sounds great too. So I'll uh I'll let them know that we got it in the hands of the first guy, first artist. What an honor. So thank you so much. We appreciate you doing it, and uh gosh, we look forward to following your career. Now, are you gonna be in Vegas?

SPEAKER_01 33:06

I I am gonna be uh doing a little thing on a stage uh for the Battleborne headquarters there at Rio, Battleborne boots and whatnot.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

That's where that's where we're gonna, I think we're gonna be there doing our interviews as at the Rio this year. Last year we were at the Westgate uh where we did a bunch of interviews, but uh May Estes, who was just here, okay, is gonna be playing at the Rio on Monday the 8th.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Oh at a party in Nashville, and May Estes was there a few years back before anybody knew who she was. She's pretty cool. She's she's got an incredible voice.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

She's got a great voice. Her and Jenny Tolman were both here uh for the Cowgirls at the Cowboy, and what a cool event that was. Yeah. Three days of uh singer-songwriters here in Jackson. And so, but uh anyway, well, look us up. Yeah when you get to Vegas, we're there hanging out.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Yeah, I'll be there uh December 4th, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

By you so by your beer or something.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

All right, okay. Well, appreciate it. Hey, for music. Oh, where can we find your music? I always forget to ask you.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Yeah, definitely all the places, right? Spotify, Apple, Pandora, and wherever iTunes, uh, but JaredRogerson.com. Okay. You can go there and there's links to everything. Okay, all the socials as well at JaredRoggerson Music. Perfect. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

Two more questions, real quick.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Who would you love to work with, dead or alive? I think I know the answer to this.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Well, yeah, Chris Ladou. There you go. For sure. Anybody else? Um, yeah, I I've uh I'm kind of a fan of a lot of different people. I grew up with uh Steve Earl music. I'd love to work with George Strait. Um, man. Um just just name them. Yeah. There's some legends out there. Gary Allen has been.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Gary Allen, what a great one. Yeah. Nothing on but the radio. Bryce Long wrote that song. No kidding. Yeah, okay. Yeah, and and we've had him on twice. So have you done any songwriter festivals? I have not. You need to reach out, you need to reach out to uh I've got a couple of contacts for you. Okay. Uh, because there's uh three of them in Montana Red Lodge, Livingston, and Whitefish. And uh, and they they they bring in some Nashville artists, but they also bring in some rising stars. And so yeah, I think you'd fit in there great. And I think you and if we do something in Idle Falls, we'll be sure to give you a call. Yeah. Hey, hey Jared, thanks for your time. Hey, for Musical Miles Podcast, I'm your host, Byron Duffin, here in Jacksonville, Wyoming, and the famous Silver Dollar Bar with Mr. Jared Rogerson. We'll see you again somewhere down the road.