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David Lyle Evans | AKA Pops former Bass Player for Chris LeDoux

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David Lyle Evans is a veteran singer, songwriter, and bass player whose career has been deeply rooted in the traditions of Western music, outlaw country, and authentic Americana storytelling. With decades of experience on the road and in the studio, Evans has earned respect throughout the Western and independent country music communities for his powerful musicianship, commanding stage presence, and unwavering dedication to preserving the spirit of traditional country music.

Best known for his work as a bassist and performer, David Lyle Evans has shared stages and recording projects with some of the most respected names in Western and country music. Over the years, he has been associated with acclaimed bands and musical projects including Chris LeDoux’s legendary band Western Underground, the fan-favorite Western music group Tar Water, and the Idaho-based reunion phenomenon Famous Motel Cowboys. His work with these groups helped solidify his reputation as a trusted musician capable of blending classic country roots with the rugged authenticity of cowboy culture and life on the road.

Evans’ connection to the Western lifestyle runs deeper than music alone. His performances reflect the grit, honesty, and storytelling traditions that have long defined cowboy music and independent country artistry. Whether behind a bass guitar or front and center delivering a song, he brings a lifetime of experience and authenticity to every performance.

Throughout his career, David Lyle Evans has contributed as both a performer and songwriter, crafting music inspired by the realities of life, travel, hard work, and the American West. His songwriting captures themes of freedom, resilience, heartbreak, and the enduring cowboy spirit. Recent releases such as “The Outlaw” and “She’s No Angel” continue to showcase his unmistakable style and passion for timeless country music.

His involvement with Western Underground, the band famously associated with country and rodeo icon Chris LeDoux, remains a notable chapter in his musical journey. The influence of LeDoux’s independent spirit and Western heritage can still be heard in Evans’ music and live performances today.

In addition to performing across the Northwest and beyond, Evans has become recognized among fans of traditional country and Western music as a musician who represents authenticity in an era increasingly dominated by commercial trends. His legacy continues through live appearances, collaborations, songwriting, and his dedication to keeping true Western music alive for future generations.

Whether performing with longtime friends, collaborating with fellow songwriters, or appearing as a featured guest on platforms like the Musical Miles Podcast, David Lyle Evans continues to embody the heart and soul of classic cowboy and outlaw country music.

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SPEAKER_03

Take a handful of ashes face on the shell figure, mama can handle the rest by herself. When I ride in shine, reaching my shirt, I'll give him back to the rodeo. Daddy was tough, he was assault of the earth, and he rode the bare backs for all he was worth. He made my life better just for the knowing a handful of ashes, wind just blowing, was a breaker of horses, he was a maker of men, an American hero I remember when he made our lives better just for the knowing and a handful of ashes, the wind just blow him. The abbreviated version, it's too long. You're good.

SPEAKER_02

Take a handful of ashes and the wind just blow him.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, hey music lovers. Welcome to Musical Miles Podcast. Want to welcome today our guest, Mr. Lyle Pops Evans. Thanks for coming and sitting down with us. That is a beautiful tune. And and set it up. Tell us a little bit about it because that's that's a great story behind that song.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I heard about it. Through the grapevine that Bo, Chris's son, had, after Chris's passing, had wrote a bronze or two at Cheyenne, and he got an 82 on one of his rides, and he jumped off and threw some of Chris's ashes in the in the arena there. And I went I told Pinno about it, and he goes, man, we gotta write a song, so we use that as an excuse to drink too much for a while.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think you two needed an excuse forever for that. But I I want to back up a little bit because people don't know. So so Pops played bass in Western Underground with Chris Ledue. Right. And with Pinot Bennett, which Pinot and Tarwater.

SPEAKER_03

So early uh Motel Cowboys.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so which which was was back in the day in the 70s, right? Early 70s. 80s. 80s, yeah. Okay. But but started out uh he's an Elmore County guy, grew up in uh Mountain Home, uh, born on our side of the state, though Idaho Falls, and then made his way over here and he's lived all over the country.

SPEAKER_03

He's been kind of floating downriver for like 70 years.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, it's nothing wrong with that. He's just recently moved to Melba, Idaho. Yep. Which uh look it up on a map. It's a beautiful place out in the middle of nowhere. There you go. And uh um uh just what a what a great history and a great story. Seeing Pops play, uh seeing play over since we started the podcast, but over the years we've seen you play uh multiple places, just probably didn't realize it. And we'd never met officially until I don't know, when you were playing with Buddy DeVore and the Faded Cowboys. You played over there on our side of the state. You came one, we saw you play at the BBR. Uh in fact, you guys do a cover of Purple Rain that I absolutely love. That is a great Buddy's Buddy's out there.

SPEAKER_03

Well, he's he's been well, he's a buckaro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, oh no, I know.

SPEAKER_03

He's the real talk a few times, not very many times, but he landed on his head.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, not only that, Dapner killed him in a car wreck, too. Oh, yeah. Him and Casey Shelton.

SPEAKER_03

He's a tough friend of the game.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they hit the mountain horse right in the middle of the road.

SPEAKER_03

Thank God they made it.

SPEAKER_04

But but Pops, you've had quite the career. You currently you're I gave him a page of all the names. But but I've dropped him. I knew a lot of them. I knew a lot of this, but I didn't know all of them. But I I love this because we were just talking, you were talking about when you played for Chris, some of the bands that opened for Chris Ledou, 38 Special, and Kansas. And how cool is that?

SPEAKER_03

Jamie Johnson opened for it.

SPEAKER_04

Jamie Johnson opened for you and Chris. Wow. Oh, yeah. So kind of cool stuff. Uh you played with the the master Thorough. George Thurgred opened for you guys.

SPEAKER_03

I go, we can't top this.

SPEAKER_04

We we did anyway, but it's hard to talk. Oh, yeah, I can only imagine. But you've played with Kip Attaway, the funny man of uh from uh originally from Dallas, Texas, uh made his way to Idaho back in the 70s, and uh and uh yeah, Rock Springs and Cheyenne, one of my favorite Kip Attaway.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think I'll ever forget the winner 72.

SPEAKER_04

Yep, yep, yep. And what's cool about those stories and about the one you just shared about Chris, is they're true.

SPEAKER_03

And and he really did come up here, and his mom gave him a Phillips credit card. Oh, it's to Wyoming and it it's all Sinclair. Yeah, there's nobody take and it's blown 40 miles an hour. And it was Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_04

Right? It was Thanksgiving. His brother lived in in uh Pocatello, I think. And so he how he made it, I don't know, but he did. He he made it, and he ended up stumbling into uh an old buddy of mine that I know you knew, Fred Crane. Fred had that uh bar there in Pocatello and he hired Kip. What did he tell me? Uh was it like 20 bucks and all the beer he could drink or something like that, and and uh eat and tips, and and uh what a what a cool story. But that's that's the what we love uh and why we do this podcast is to counter-record a little bit of those stories in the history of the music industry. And Idaho has a very rich music history with the with the bronze and with Pinot, and you know, Pinot was uh it it it a lot of people didn't really even get to know much about Pinot until after he was dead, right? He's been gone five or six years.

SPEAKER_03

Curtis Steiger.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean see what was his name? Uh uh the piano player, Grammy played over here at Lockstock and Barrel all the time. Sorry, guys. No, no, who would that be? He he was he was a solo jazz artist.

SPEAKER_04

But uh yeah, Curtis Steiger still lives here in Boise and tours the world, right? Still yeah, and then uh um of course Steve Eaton, you know, Steve Eaton was uh recorded as Steve and and uh Steve. Steve lived on the east side of Idaho, he lived over in Pocto and uh and used to play with uh Mike Sanders. Did you know Mike? I knew Mike Big Mike, what a cool guy. They were wonderful.

SPEAKER_03

I yeah, watched him at where sandpipers. Yes, yeah. Still there when I was driving trucks. Sure. And pull my truck in there.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Well, you you plugged up the whole parking lot. Sleep in the uh sleeper. In the sleeper. Yeah, what a but you know, there's a lot of great music history with Southeast Idaho that mo or Idaho in general that most people don't realize. And and we have some very talented artists and some others that live pretty close by. You know, uh uh let's see, there's uh there's a few of them rock stars live over in Jackson Hole now, too.

SPEAKER_03

So well, and then a lot of Ledou's band was from Salt Lake. Okay, and they played up there in a band called Cow Jazz.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And KW wanted to be in my band, and I wanted to be in his band. And so we ended up being in the band together. Being in Ledou's band.

SPEAKER_04

In being in Ledou's band together. Which was such an honor. Now, was he the is he the the piano player from Ogden? Uh KW? Yeah. He's the drummer. He's the drummer. Oh, oh, that's he's the drummer, but he is from Ogden, right? Uh is he from Ogden? One of those guys that was in the band with you guys. Uh is that was the keyboard player. Is is the keyboard player and he's Bobby Jensen. Okay, and he's buddies with um uh oh now I'm gonna screw this up.

SPEAKER_03

His first gig was with the Osmonds. Oh, you're kidding. Under the arch.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And he's up there his very first gig, and he's playing Synthesizer, and all his notes blew away. Like a million crowd of a million people. And his notes. And his notes blew away. He kind of knows the show, but he had all these notes. Oh my gosh. You know, stuff like that happens all the time.

SPEAKER_04

Live music basically. Oh, Chuck Smith? Is that the guy you're trying to think of, the piano player? She's uh here in Boise. The J. No, no, it wasn't just she's she that's what my producer does, is she's back there checking, she's trying to find out information.

SPEAKER_03

His name was Paul.

SPEAKER_04

Paul. We we uh us old guys, we forget stuff, right? So and how many people have you met over your lifetime?

SPEAKER_03

Oh just it's impossible.

SPEAKER_04

You know, I know, I absolutely know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, run into uh comedians and stuff. Oh, sure. Sure. They're pouring whiskey down your throat, and your wife's standing over looking at you.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you it's Vegas. Let the yeah, there you go. Well, I can only imagine Paul Tillotson? Yes, Paul Tillotson. There you go. Paul Tilletson. Corey, come in. We got another guy we we we uh wrangled up. This is our this is our common denominator between between uh Pops and I is Corey Grubb.

SPEAKER_01

I'm here to make this guy look good.

SPEAKER_04

And Cory, Corey and I have uh had the pleasure of sitting down and and uh and visited. But you guys have written together and uh got a got a new song that's gonna be on Pops' new album, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, releasing on uh the record label that I'm starting actually, Bennett Mountain Records.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you're gonna start your own label?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we've got uh two.

SPEAKER_04

And Rancho Notorious. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So we've released two singles off of off of Pops' solo album so far. And then uh Rancho Notorious is about to release a single of a Pinto Bennett cover.

SPEAKER_04

Really? Which one of Pinto's covers? Oh, yeah. Okay. Alright, well, don't don't yeah, we don't want to know any secrets.

SPEAKER_01

You'll know in about a month.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But uh kind of the idea for for Pops' solo album is where uh every song is gonna feature a different local band that he plays with.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my crosby. Oh, you just wrote a new song with Jeff? Uh see been writing with Corey, uh, Brad Egg and you've been playing with Ryder in the Rolling Thunder.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, Gordon was writer, too. I got to sing backgrounds on uh his sons and daughters song. Oh, okay. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Let's change the way we do this. Okay. Uh you do the first verse. Of course, I'll do the second verse.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, let's let's hear what you got, guys.

SPEAKER_03

This one we wrote, and it's gonna be out probably July 4th or sometime.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I think it's in June.

SPEAKER_04

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SPEAKER_00

Burning straight through my soul. Say what you will about desire, but on any man, love will take its toll. Tell myself I never loved you, don't believe you ever cared. I locked my heart away, I was afraid to say I was scared. A country singer as well at a functional drum. I've been a perfect stranger, and I've flirted with danger. She said she's gonna fight, don't give it up.

SPEAKER_03

Don't give a damn what I've got to lose, turning my back on hesitation, freelan bound, but ignore bruised into the desert on a snowy night, stuck in the middle of nowhere. Shit, sorry, man. I'm talking country stereo and functional drumstic stranger, flirty with danger, said she's gone for love. Wow. Anyway, no, I didn't do my homework. Yeah, it's okay. You know what last time I played it was in the studio like six months ago.

SPEAKER_04

Most most people most people don't know. I I'm sitting here in the room and I I caught a couple little you when you caught yourself, but but most people won't ever catch that. And so, but I love that about guitars. It's pretty forgiving. Oh, yeah. And and uh especially because I know because I'm a shitty guitar player and I've got an eye out for this kid. Oh, I got I got my eye on him, been watching him. Scary too. I've been I've been watching him. He's got a lot of talent. There's all there's so much talent here in Idaho that uh we we find ourselves running all over the country, you know, doing interviews in Nashville and Texas and around, but it's a lot of talent here. You Corey saw this, you know. We started uh it's never to my knowledge, it's never happened in Southeast Idaho, not an organized songwriter round. And we started them a month ago. We call it Thursday in the round. We do them on Thursday nights, and uh we had six local artists uh both events, and one kid came out of Utah, Daniel Bados came out of Utah, but um, the rest of them are all from Southeast Idaho, and you want to talk about talent. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03

I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member.

SPEAKER_04

Wow, I think that's a that's that's that's there is a song titled I don't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member. Check out the price. Beautiful guitar. Yeah, yeah. Well, this whole this this store is such a cool place. I mean, I can Corey gets to come to work every day. I I when I got to to interview the the man, the myth, the legend, Rob a few minutes ago. I I said, Is this is is this guitar heaven? Did I got die and go to guitar heaven? Because it's such a cool place. Aesthetically, it's just so cool. You just walk in and go, I want to hang out here. Yeah, and with some really cool people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so it's cool. I like it here a lot. And it was funny because I wasn't even really looking for work. I just, you know, we moved back to Boise and I was like, uh, see if uh they just need some help part time. And I'm pinching myself all the time, going, man, I got I get paid to be here.

SPEAKER_04

I can imagine. I can imagine. Boy, that Lakeland's pretty and get to hang out with guys like Pops, right? Just the stories. I can only imagine you toured Europe with with Pinot.

SPEAKER_03

Pinot got to be a big trio Pinot for that Motel Cowboys did, but Okay. They played Wembley Stadium.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I know. They were he had a huge following in Europe. They did really well. Yeah, and then most people in Idaho never even heard of Pinot. Which is not there's a lot of people who don't know about the Muslims.

SPEAKER_03

Old and ugly and from Millmore County.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's like I I swear to God, we need to write a song about you know, no one loves you in your hometown. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Prophet's not welcome as the hometown.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you know what, there's a lot of truth to that. I mean, and even, you know, I can't get a gig in my home, hardly. I I don't get that. And and you know, just just from the I mean, how many years did you did you play with Chris? Uh five. Five years with Chris.

SPEAKER_03

12 more years with Western Underground.

SPEAKER_04

With Western Underground. And and and with Ned.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Ned was my drummer.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, Ned Keep an eye on that kid. Well, well, we we got a chance to sit down with him, and most people don't know Chris. No, most people's big guy. Yeah, most people don't have a clue that Ned never planned on being a frontman. He was a drummer. He did not want the limelight.

SPEAKER_03

I never heard him play.

SPEAKER_04

Well, he's like, Well, he told me he told me he after Chris died.

SPEAKER_03

But if you did Rand Halen licks on the drums, what it was.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. But they said he said they were sitting around playing after a must have been with Western Underground. You guys after the show or after Chris died, and somebody handed him a guitar and said, I'm gonna go get a beer, play us one of your dad's songs. And he goes, What? I don't do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. And and and so the rest is history.

SPEAKER_03

You've got Mac Mac and Allen. Right produced, which she can't remember.

SPEAKER_04

That's that's my that's my that's another one of my hit lists that I want to someday sit down with Mac, because I think Mac's got some great stories. Not only, not only Chris, but hell, all the stuff he wrote with with Jimmy Buffett and produced for Jimmy Buffett. Yeah. You know, what a what a what a life he's had. So how long did you live in Nashville? You spent some time out there.

SPEAKER_03

I was there, I was lucky. I was only there about nine months.

SPEAKER_04

Nine months? Okay, okay. Well, it's funny because you know they call that a ten-year town.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I got the gig. Yeah. It was bus calls in Salt Lake. That's where everybody bus is. So I had to fly it. I did a gig with Kip Ottawa in Des Moines, Iowa, two days before, flamed home, sat around naked, played bass to the tracks for 24 hours, and flew from Nashville to Salt Lake, got on the bus and played in Laughlin, Nevada. Uh-huh. At the riverside the next day. Right. And it was and then the next day we did the Life of the Highway video. Oh, you're kin. So it was like, well, even if they don't hire me, I got proof that I did something. That you did something with Chris.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's like you said Nashville's a ten-year town for Pops, it was almost a ten month town.

SPEAKER_04

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

So when I got the gig and bus call was in Salt Lake, I go, I'm moving back to Idaho.

SPEAKER_04

Well, why would you not live in Idaho if bus calls?

SPEAKER_03

Idaho and be two hours away from the airport.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Instead of riding on a plane for three or four hours.

SPEAKER_04

Right, right. Right. So Right. Well, there's some there's

SPEAKER_03

I've traded in the big boys.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Or I play in like 10 different local bands. I'm circling the grain here. Local bandom.

SPEAKER_04

I don't call that circling the grain. Listen, you know what you're doing, in my opinion, is you're you're you're uh nurturing all these up-and-coming young artists. And I love that because you know a lot of guys get to this age and they go, I don't know the world anything. I don't know anybody anything. I'm just gonna and and you love to play, you love you do it for the music, right? And and and so um that's that's why I don't sing too bad. No, you sing pretty good for you sing way better than I do.

SPEAKER_03

Brad Egg and right, so he won't let me sing.

SPEAKER_04

He won't let you sing, no. No, but I've seen you sing with with with Ryder, I've seen you sing with Buddy. Uh you guys, you guys were great, and and I love when I get the chance. We're gonna try and come over to the Motel Cowboys reunion. Uh 8, 9, and 10 of May. 8, 9, and 10 of May. And uh so who's who's still around that that uh played with the Motel Cowboys? Uh Robbie. Rob Rob Matson, Sergio Ebb.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Uh our bass player, thankfully, this year again will be Boyd Wilson. Okay. He wasn't one of the original guys. KW from Chris Linube there. Uh let's see who else. You got a great lineup. It's three guys. Ryan Abyss, Stew Guitar, uh, Sam Rothwell, Stew Guitar. There's a lot of Motel Cowboys, but there's not very many of us left. No. Well, it's the herds getting thinned out. How long's Pinno Bang on? We're out on the Serengeti and getting closed in on by the hyenas. There you go.

SPEAKER_04

How long's how long's Pinel been gone?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, about what five or four or five years now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Something like that. Never officially got to meet him. I I I stood by him at the BBR one year out in front of the stage. He's just out there listening to everybody play and loving life and loving music.

SPEAKER_01

And so I mean you missed you missed out on a big old wet sloppy kiss. Yeah. He liked to give everybody a kiss, didn't he?

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh. That was his thing.

SPEAKER_01

That's how you know you were you were part of the part of the clan as well.

SPEAKER_04

You got the big kiss, sloppy wet kiss from Ben O'Bennet. It was kind of like a well. I love that. I love those stories. Well, Pops, thanks for joining us. Well, Baron, thank you. Corey, thanks for coming in and playing and sharing your your music with us. And uh it's always a fun deal. And thanks for reaching out about this. Oh, we definitely will. So, where are they gonna find your music right now?

SPEAKER_03

Everywhere on everywhere, everywhere you stream.

SPEAKER_04

So, Spotify, Apple, all of it.

SPEAKER_03

And I put a volume, then I'll put a CD and vinyl out uh probably in a year or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay on every major platform. Um, and and Pops doesn't have uh an official Facebook page yet, but people can follow Bennett Mountain Records on Facebook.

SPEAKER_04

Get him his own website too. You gotta get that done.

SPEAKER_01

Gotta get that going.

SPEAKER_03

I'm on the phone too much if we do that.

SPEAKER_04

You know what? The website, the website's not they don't generate as much ruckus as a as a Facebook or a or an Instagram page or a TikTok page. So yeah, yeah. We'll make you we'll get him to be TikTok famous. Well, I'm on Instagram, but I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, well, cool. Well, thanks guys once again. This has been a lot of been a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, for Musical Milds Podcast, I'm your host Byron Duffin here with Lyle Pops Evans, David Lyle Pops Evans, Corey Grubb, my buddy from right here in Boise, Idaho. They're both Elmore County guys, but three four teacher. Yeah. All right. We'll see you somewhere down the road.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks for letting me crash the episode. Audio.

SPEAKER_03

See you in the movies.