Trust, Distance & Communication: How to Build a Relationship That Lasts

Guest Bios:
David and Paige Lea are trauma-informed relationship coaches, speakers, and experts in masculine and feminine polarity. As the co-owners of Daring Deeply, they help individuals and couples break free from unhealthy patterns and create deep, fulfilling relationships through coaching and courses.

Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Humanity of Fame, host Kali welcomes back David and Paige Lea to explore the dynamics of long-distance relationships, how masculine and feminine energies shape relationship success, and why past wounds influence our views on love and trust. Inspired by US Weekly’s feature on actress Sheryl Lee Ralph and her husband, Pennsylvania Senator Vincent Hughes, the conversation tackles how couples can thrive despite physical distance.

Key Topics:

• The Reality of Long-Distance Relationships: How successful couples navigate distance without insecurity or distrust.
• The Role of Masculine & Feminine Energy: Understanding how polarity and balance impact attraction and emotional connection.
• Healing Relationship Wounds: Why past trauma leads many people to fear long-distance relationships and assume infidelity.
• Overcoming Trust Issues: How communication and emotional security form the foundation of a thriving relationship.
• Choosing Your Relationship Dynamics: Why the "I could never do that" mindset comes from unhealed wounds, not relationship reality.

Potential Listener Questions:

1. Can long-distance relationships really work, or are they doomed to fail?
2. How do masculine and feminine energies influence relationship success?
3. Why do people automatically assume cheating in long-distance relationships?
4. What steps can someone take to heal past relationship trauma and build trust?

References and Links:

• Connect with David & Paige Lea: Daring Deeply Website
• Explore their relationship coaching programs: Daring Deeply Coaching
• Follow them on Instagram for relationship insights: @DaringDeeply

Final Thoughts:

David & Paige emphasize that relationship success is a choice, not a coincidence. Whether long-distance or living together, trust, communication, and understanding masculine/feminine dynamics are key to thriving love.

Find out more about Kali and the show HERE: https://humanityoffame.com/

Transcript

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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) So opposites attract. So the passivity is more of the wounded feminine energy. The over-aggressiveness or control is wounded masculine energy. Well, wounded masculine energy will always, always, always attract wounded feminine. Opposites attract. Hi, you guys. It's Kali. Welcome to Humanity of Fame. Thank you for joining me. I hope you guys are having a good day. And today we're just going to jump right into it. All right. So today we're going to take a look at the unique and inspiring dynamics of long distance love. Actress Cheryl Lee Ralph and her husband, Pennsylvania State Senator Vincent Hughes, who have been married for nearly two decades, have successfully navigated living in separate cities, making their relationship work despite the physical distance. All right. So let's take a look at the article really quick. Okay. So this is according to US Weekly. You see here, Cheryl Lee Ralph defends her unconventional marriage to Vincent Hughes. I have my own life. All right. So let's get into the article a little bit. Says here, I'm very fortunate. You fall in love. You fall in love with somebody and you realize he's not leaving his career. He's not leaving Philadelphia. I'm not leaving Hollywood. When you have children, it is very difficult. All right. So continuing on, she says, every two weeks we saw each other and it has continued to work out well. When I go to see him, I love to see him. When it's time to leave, bye-bye, see you soon. I'm telling you, life is good. She continued, he has his own life. I have my own life. He has his own real career. I have my own real career. He has his right. He has his light, excuse me, to stand in. I have my life to stand in. He is not looking at me thinking about status or this or that. He's doing his thing. I get to do my thing. She said that they are each other's biggest cheerleaders. She said, continuing on, it's all good. She said, citing communication as their secret to success. Let's talk about it. If you sit in problems, you get anxious, depressed, and all of the juiciness in life starts to dry up. I can't have that because all of that will mess up my good looks. All right. So we are going to dive into that topic today. But let me start first by welcoming back my guest, welcoming back co-owners of Dearing Deeply, David and Paige Lee. Together, they serve as trauma-informed coaches, speakers, and teachers of masculine and feminine polarity. Trained through a trauma-informed lens, David and Paige provide courses and coaching programs to challenge you to break free from unhealthy patterns and ignite a deep and passionate connection within yourself and in your marriage. All right. So welcome back, you guys. Hi, Callie. It's good to be back. Good to be back. Thank you. Thank you. Great to have you. Okay. So diving into it. All right. So today we're going to talk about practical strategies of overcoming challenges like past trauma, trust issues, and insecurities, and how couples can use these experiences to strengthen their connection and build a more resilient relationship. So I'm just going to start with the first question from your expertise. Okay. What are the key qualities that couples need to successfully maintain a healthy marriage while living in different states? That is, boy, that's the juiciest question, right? That's the most powerful question, Callie, is how do we make any type of a relationship work? And of course, there's some unique challenges when we're looking at long distance. In fact, Paige and I spent the first 18 months of our relationship long distance. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. What was incredibly important is, and it sounds so cliche, but it's true. It's communication. And I'd rather say it's actually over communication. It's, it's uber, uber important that we are communicating, letting each other know how we're doing, what we're doing, regular communication times. We have set schedules on where we're going to FaceTime, when we're going to connect. And here's what's interesting, Callie. We live now in the same city, in the same state, in the same home, in the same bed. And our communication hasn't changed. So I still check in. We communicate all day long. Now, we are business owners and partners. We are also a married couple. But we are not over-communicating to the sense of codependency or needing to check in because of levels of envy and jealousy. And we'll get to that in just a moment. But what's important to understand is that dating, marriage, long distance, or sleeping in the same bed, communication is the same. It's the same. So when we are speaking to whether someone is quote, single or married, the relationship dynamics, the communication styles, intimacy, conflict resolution, it's all the same because it's a relationship in which we choose. So it's really important as we choose. There you go. Exactly. Exactly. So with these two individuals, with the couple that we're speaking to about in the article, they're choosing to be together. They're choosing to be married in separate states. They're choosing that lifestyle. And so, as I'd love to hear some of the responses that you have seen in regard to this particular article, we can unpack that as well. But oftentimes people will reject that type of relationship because of their past experiences with distrust, jealousy, envy, passive aggressiveness, codependency, et cetera, et cetera. So we will always, always, Kali, look at our relationships and relationships outside of ourselves through the lens of our wounds from our past. What we want to do is begin to heal those wounds so that we have a clear understanding. As we say, we want to clear the trauma cataracts from our eyes so we can begin to see incredibly clear and see exactly what a healthy relationship is. Some of the comments that I came across, which led me to want to talk about this, is there were a lot of people who were emphatic, emphatic, I will never do it. I can't do it. Definitely there's cheating going on, all kinds of comments. Right. And I said, you know, that's, that's what made me think about what's related to the, I can never, I will never, there's cheating, obviously. Like, like why would a person automatically think that or project that onto somebody else's relationship? Let me ask you, Paige, you said, I'm not you, but David said that you guys were for the first 18 months, you guys lived separately, right? Different locations, but communication was key. If this was the first time of you experiencing something like that, was there ever a level of discomfort or nervousness or, and I'm only asking for those who might think that something like that could happen. Yeah, definitely. I think it's an important ask. It's an important question. As David was alluding to, the individuals in the comments that feel so afraid and scared of