Guest
Evan Phoenix
Evan Phoenix is a longtime infrastructure and backend engineer, best known in the Ruby world for building Rubinius (a Ruby VM) and contributing foundational tooling like Puma and benchmark-ips. He’s the CEO of Miren, a deployment platform aimed at helping small teams ship and operate modern systems without needing a full DevOps squad. In this episode, Evan breaks down “real vs fake AI” as a product lens: AI should enable real features (like summaries, automation, and better workflows), not just be a sticker slapped on the box.