Speaker 2:

Yeah you sniffed out some elk poop earlier, I sure did. You just said that like I sure did.

Speaker 1:

I'm out here on the farm. I mean, truly I mean, if there's anything about. What's funny, though, is I was like that's elk poop, right off the bat.

Speaker 2:

You did know that right away. You're like it looks like deer poop, but it's bigger.

Speaker 1:

It must be elk. I've never seen elk shit before, but I'm like no, that's probably it, that's definitely it, 100%.

Speaker 2:

Every time we stop, though, you're like I have to go into the visitor center and there's always like footprints or something that you learn about. You know about looking out in nature. Was there one about scat? No, because we, because I heard you're into scat.

Speaker 1:

Apparently you have. Whenever you say like, oh, I'm open to trying anything, you have to be specific no scat, no blood, no fisting, no what Something. There's something else.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, honey, whatever you're not into, I know, but will you try everything once? Uh, no. Yeah, not those, not those, but everything else, like I've peed on someone before.

Speaker 1:

Like just her foot.

Speaker 2:

But I have a really shy bladder, so it does not go well for me.

Speaker 1:

But what I wanted these people to hear about was I was out here doing these people, these random people. Well, these people, here Our listeners that we love and adore, I know. But you know what, whenever I say things, I don't mean it ill-intentionally. Is that the?

Speaker 2:

word.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you just sound With ill intent.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just sound stupid.

Speaker 1:

Well, I just get to it. Like these people. Hello, that I can't see, okay. I still love you. Anyway, I was out here practicing my baton routines with my stick.

Speaker 2:

You were, and then.

Speaker 1:

Kai, you come out from around the van. This is my rock oh yeah. Because you told me earlier I was like you don't have any rocks.

Speaker 2:

You're like I have a rock. I brought a rock from the beach. I'm very proud of it. Is it illegal? It is illegal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Don't tell anyone I have so many rocks because we went rock hunting, yeah, and you found a bunch and then I came out and I was like this is my rock. Rocks were my victory last episode.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right, yeah, so I'm glad we got to bring it up.

Speaker 1:

But then so we moved campsites.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we went from Second Beach on the coast in La Push and now we're in the Ho National Rainforest, thank God, and guess what?

Speaker 1:

It's fucking raining Piss pouring.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Wild.

Speaker 1:

In the middle of summer In a rainforest.

Speaker 2:

In a rainforest, yeah, but in Washington, yeah. I thought they meant like, oh, it's, you know, like a parody on rainforest.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. A satire, yeah, it's like ha ha, gotcha Gotcha bitch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I was expecting.

Speaker 1:

Isn't gotcha, gotcha bitch? Yeah, that's what I was expecting, what you usually say gotcha bitch that's it.

Speaker 2:

I feel like you read my mind all the time. I knew what you were. I knew what you meant like nine times out of ten when you say what I'm thinking, you're right, uh-huh. Yeah, I say like one word, it's like name, that tune, you know where they put like one note. But then you know the whole you know song you're also I go. All I say is um then Caleb's like, oh, you're thinking about like your mom's birthday. I'm like how did you know that? I don't know your mom's birthday.

Speaker 1:

but yeah, I could see that. I could see it in your eyes. I know what was it earlier. No, it was the other night when we were watching Big Mama's House and you do the same for me.

Speaker 2:

I'll just mention something like I can make you a grilled cheese. Oh right, yeah. I was like oh my, I wonder what I have in there to eat. All he does is like hmm. And I'm like are you hungry? You want a grilled cheese? I'll make you a grilled cheese.

Speaker 1:

And you're like that's exactly what I wanted it sounded so wonderful at the time for other reasons other than Big Mama's house, but it was just great and that it needed.

Speaker 2:

It really did, yeah. So what are we talking?

Speaker 1:

about today. We decided to talk about music, and I'm so glad that we did, because you mentioned it as your victory.

Speaker 2:

I did yeah, it was inspired by my victory from the last episode, where I'm how just like listening to like all this music on this road trip spurred something in me and made me like very like introspective, and so we were like wouldn't it be like really fun to like go through all these like songs that are from like our past and like talk about what they mean to us and just have a little like flashback moment?

Speaker 1:

yeah, because I think, for both of us, music is how. I'm not very good at putting my thoughts into words, which you're very well aware of, and so are they um so I think music does that for me, these people, I said they that's all encompassing.

Speaker 2:

I'm that sounds rude. I really do love each and every one of you, although I don't know all 26 of you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah well, we have more than 26 I mean, who's counting? You on buzzsprout, but um you saying that it made me really appreciate us doing it together. Because at first I'm like I sound shitty singing, but it is fun to sing songs from your childhood with someone.

Speaker 1:

And so today I was like you're a biggest fan. I was like you better hit that note and I was like you can do it and I said let's go back. I want you to go higher. You can go higher. He was my vocal coach and then there were some songs you were playing. I just got like goosebumps too, yeah, and then got teary-eyed. I know, every time you see, seeing, she used to be mine. Oh, I love sarah boralis. I know, and I didn't. I had no idea what that song was.

Speaker 2:

You know that I'm in a like okay, so itunes back when iTunes was really selling music. Yeah, like they did a like iTunes. Sara Bareilles live concert special. Thing. We tried to look for it. No, I found it and I was there with my friend Kate and I think I was like 16 years old or something, and so this is like almost 20 years ago Live at the Fillmore, and so this is like almost 20 years ago, live at the fillmore and um I found like my little 16 year old face in the crowd, oh just a baby.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anyways, love sir brownless uh, yes you do, and I I kind of. Whenever I found out that that song love story was kind of an fu to her label, she's like I'm not just gonna write you another love story. Yeah, does it make you love her even more? Yeah, yeah and then, honestly, she used to be mine. It was gonna be up there in a song. I'm gonna you know how I like to cycle through songs yeah, repetitively, repeatedly yeah or repetitively repetitively, repeatedly um, and that's probably gonna be my new one that you're gonna get sick of.

Speaker 2:

yeah, caleb picks one song and then it's blasted from his room or from his bathroom or from his craft room. He has three rooms that he blasts music from, and it's usually one song on repeat for a week.

Speaker 1:

But what I love so much is, and then it's a new one, and they're all really good, though that's the thing I know. It's like you have a good taste in music and I don't hate it Because then, literally, like so many days in a row, you'll be humming and I'm like you know the song?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just not the words. I was telling you this earlier, but, like every morning, I wake up with a different song stuck in my head and, of course, caleb's first question was is it like a song that I was playing? Because, you know, I play the same song every single day. And the answer is no Tell them today's song oh, I'm going to light you up like it's dynamite.

Speaker 1:

Who sings that? Jason? No, yeah, is it Jason Derulo?

Speaker 2:

I don't think so.

Speaker 1:

It was someone Was it like Ayaz or something, something like that, but no, what's also my favorite thing about you, kyle, is I will sing 73 songs in a day.

Speaker 2:

And until I sing the, the next one, you will be just humming it non-stop. Well, I'm like a hummer, like as a kid, like I used to get like punished for humming.

Speaker 1:

So much yeah like my hit or like put in the corner or like writing sentences.

Speaker 2:

My brother's dad was like um, what's the right word? Punishing? No, um, I guess like homophobic and and really didn't want his kids to do anything feminine.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my God, we're so going to get into that too, and I was like humming was like not acceptable, and so I would get spanked.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if he ever found me humming and I'm so musically I don't know how he puts out a response to that. I know, isn't that awful.

Speaker 1:

I, and I'm so musically, I don't know he puts how to respond to that.

Speaker 2:

It's not awful, I mean, yeah, I guess that's like me getting in trouble for playing with barbie dolls. Yeah, yeah same thing, which we're gonna get into those honestly though I think that that's why I have such a good like falsetto is because, like whenever we were like singing in the car, I have to like sing really quiet and so I'd like sing in like this higher register that like he couldn't hear or something like a dog whistle dog yeah, yeah he can't hear good music, so I'm gonna sing.

Speaker 1:

Well, here we go.

Speaker 2:

I'll, I'll have perfect pitch and then I'll just be disguised by Shania Twain in the background. G-sharp hit it. Okay. So the first song that I picked is like so fucking random. But, um, do you know what Cirque de Soleil is, caleb? Is that like where you go to the circus? It's like one of the most famous, probably the most famous circus in the entire world do they come to tennis?

Speaker 1:

Knoxville Tennessee all over the world the world, all over the world, is this where they're like?

Speaker 2:

hanging from ceiling. They're doing the most amazing acrobatic performances and every show has a different theme. Oh my god, they did a cabinet of curiosity. They did a whole dragon one. There's a million different shows. Oh, I saw one in London that was going into the afterlife. The visual effects are amazing and the like just circus arts of it all is in. There's just like nothing better.

Speaker 1:

The circuses I went to had a lion and then guys riding motorcycles inside of this metal ball cage.

Speaker 2:

Okay, no no, no, we got to go see Cirque du Soleil. I'll show you some stuff on YouTube and then you'll be like we're going see.

Speaker 1:

Cirque du Soleil. I'll show you some stuff on YouTube and then you'll be like we're going. Oh, is that where people can do like the crazy?

Speaker 2:

like body morphing Contortionism. Yeah, pretzels, there was one at one of the shows that I went to. Yeah, but I picked a song from the Cirque du Soleil show Saltimbaco, saltimbaco. I don't know, we'll cut this out. Is that English? That english? Okay, this is the like crazy part about this story. So the song is called kumbala way, and as a kid I like learned the entire lyrics to the whole song. You would sing it.

Speaker 2:

it was like a cassette that my mom had oh my god, I would put it in the cassette and I would listen to it over and over and over again. I thought that I was teaching myself french because it's cirque de soleil, right, which is like french. Okay, I didn't know that, okay, okay, um, not until like adulthood did I realize that, like this kumbala way song, that I was learning like cirque de soleil, because they travel all around the world, they don't use any particular language, they just make up their own language. What? Yeah, so it's just like syllables that are like strung together, that like sound good along with the music, and so I was just learning like gibberish the entire time, and I was literally telling everyone that I, like, knew how to speak some French. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was like a six-year-old or seven-year-old. Can you still sing it? Probably so is this like childhood songs? That's where we're starting out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like childhood songs yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's the one you chose.

Speaker 2:

That was the one that I chose because I think it's like a funny story to share. Okay, think it's like a funny story to share, but my other like top choices from childhood era were like james taylor.

Speaker 1:

You know james taylor say more.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking james arthur probably. I've seen rain, seen sunny days that I thought would never end is this, this country or no, it's like Country adjacent. It's a singer-songwriter, maybe. Okay, so my honorable mentions are James Taylor and Sting, because those were, like my mom's two favorite artists, I think, growing up. So Fields of Gold by Sting and Handyman by James Taylor were quintessential, along with me pretending to know french and singing cirque de soleil songs which I think, like when you're a child, like those are the type of like reasons why you like music.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is, yeah, it's like things that you like do with your parents. Like you know that they like it, so you kind of want to like it too, so you like have something to talk about or like something to like together.

Speaker 1:

To sing in the car together.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean so it's not like kids pop no, okay, my younger ones, I think I went based on just things I really liked at the time. So obviously my all-time favorite movie is Cowdy Ugly. Oh yeah, so Can't Fight. The Moonlight was number one on the list.

Speaker 2:

That but also that song is so good After all these years. It like totally changed leah ryan's um career after blue to that I know, which also I mean she has an amazing career, like I love her albums um, to follow that up, similar.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a girl, not yet a woman from crossroads.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, yes honestly like that.

Speaker 1:

bring it on. And cowdyly were the movies I just watched on repeat. Yeah, so I'm Not a Girl, not Yet a Woman. That outfit at the end, yeah.

Speaker 2:

With the peasant.

Speaker 1:

top with the huge arms the peasant top, that's what it was. Is that what you call it, the?

Speaker 2:

big arm sleeves. That's called a peasant top.

Speaker 1:

It reminds me when people get like there's master's degree.

Speaker 2:

In what fashion?

Speaker 1:

No master's degree, like in their wearing their like gowns when they're walking across the stage they have, like the big arms, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

But not a crisscross.

Speaker 1:

That's an interesting comparison. Okay, okay. And then, like an honorable mention, being from the South Redneck woman will always Gretchen Wilson, she will get me high yeah. Always will get me high. Yeah, always. And then I'm gonna mention one more womanizer by Britney Spears, because I would teach myself choreography and perform it for my gosh, I can't believe you picked Britney Spears, who you know obviously we love in the door.

Speaker 2:

but um, that's like perfect segue into my like adolescence because, like, my top pick was oops it Again, so it's great. Because you're like 10 years younger than me, so I picked like an album before.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, honestly, those people in the early 2000s, like Tyra Banks being on Coyote Ugly and then Crossroads.

Speaker 2:

So like they just were getting in.

Speaker 1:

the movies that people probably thought were not good Changed my life. Yeah, so you. The movies that people probably thought were not good changed my life yeah, so you're adolescent.

Speaker 2:

So like what? What would you say? Like that's preteen. Yeah, so the reason I picked oops, I did it again is because I like split the time between my mom's house and my dad's house or my brother's dad's house and, um, my brother's dad was like very like country, like you know, religious, like. Basically the songs have to have like a good message, otherwise we're not listening to it, right, my mom did not care, but she was like slide it up, girl.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so I picked like songs that were from like my first two cds that I ever bought. And oops, I did it again was not the first cd I ever bought, but it was the one that I could buy like from at my mom's house and keep it at my mom's house because my dad, like was like do not listen to britney spears. Like this is terrible. She's whipping her hair around on stage. It's disgusting that's what.

Speaker 1:

That's what he was upset about the hair, yeah, the hairography that she's famous for isn't that sad? And in you in the car today I was like let's do some choreo to this britney spears song. Yeah, and you tried it. You're like I can't do choreo my eyes. I have a crink in my neck. Is that a kink?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I can't do hairography right now. I have a crick crick, that's what I suppose. But like kink crink crick, whatever youick, that's what I said first, but like kink crink crick, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 1:

I have a frog in my neck yeah, I think that's how people say that or a frog in my throat. That's my throat, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so, and then my second album. The first album I ever bought that I kept at my dad's house was Faith by Faith Hill. Is that I Can Feel you Breathe?

Speaker 1:

No, that's breathe. Faith is this kiss. Honestly, fuck it. I don't know if we'll ever have that female era of country like that again.

Speaker 2:

Faith Hill Shania Twain, leigh-anne Womack, reba Well, reba's a little earlier, but still.

Speaker 1:

Martina McBride. Martina McBride, jodie Messina.

Speaker 2:

Jodie Messina, I mean could you imagine? Trisha Yearwood. They were carrying country music and like having kids. Yeah, it was the 90s, better economy, I guess I know, but like working people were buying albums still, not just single songs, oh yeah they were selling records.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anything else from your um adolescence, which is pre-teen, is that what you're calling it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, or teenage, teenage, years. My honorable mentions are tim mcgrath. Just to see you smile is. It brings me to tears every single time you played on the piano too, I do, yeah, and it's just like. The song is about like loving someone unconditionally and loving them so much that like even them leaving you for someone else like makes you smile because you know that like they're gonna be happy I don't know how, kyle, you're such a wonderful person to sit here and say like it makes you smile, even if someone you know you're not no longer with them, but they're happy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like, obviously, like. I think everyone wants to feel that way and eventually does, but that's really hard to do.

Speaker 2:

I, I mean it's almost impossible and you're doing it. Well, I'm trying my best.

Speaker 1:

You can do hard things.

Speaker 2:

It's not always easy. And then Wide Open Spaces by the Dixie Chicks, oh, so good. And You're Still the One by Shania Twain. Those are my honorable mentions.

Speaker 1:

You know I saw her on the internet recently saying that her favorite cover anyone's ever sang of that has been teddy swims he's so good, so fucking good, yeah, and is he on your list? No, he should have been, but he is gonna be on my list when I go to the hopefully fingers crossed, to the austin city limit fest. Go ahead, are you into adolescence now? Well, I'm doing like coming out teen, like around the same era, because so do you have any emo songs on there?

Speaker 1:

No, but like Evanescence, it was like childhood into that era. Okay, so it was around the same time. And then that's when my mom started exposing me to like Jeannie in a Bottle my Goodies.

Speaker 1:

My God, yeah, christinaina aguilera she, oh, my god, which you know. We didn't list my all-time favorite singers like as a category, but she is up like one of my top three. Yeah, probably number one. Yeah, christina aguilera, but um, so I'm gonna like kind of I skipped ahead a little bit just because you know, um a decade difference and so like mine kind of blends across okay okay so like my coming out in teen years, um, kind of all blend together because it was a major like life event.

Speaker 1:

So like before I came out, all I thought about was coming out and then was being gay afterwards, yeah, um. So my most favorite from the time was born this way by Gaga. Yes, lady Gaga.

Speaker 1:

Yes, cause it made everyone feel so seen heard and I think it was a first sorry that was loud, it was the first time that I think that gay people had a voice really in the mainstream media era, like, like, and they've always been supporting these girlies, like there's been so many like uh lgbtqi singers, females mostly in kind of that era. But for her to sing that song, I thought was yeah, fab I also have a gaga story.

Speaker 2:

Please wait, it's one of my story. Wait, is this the one?

Speaker 1:

that you're like oh, I'm going to share a story, but then you're like, let me save it, no.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I may have told you this before, but our listeners don't know, so one of my top songs is Love Game by Lady Gaga, because when I studied abroad and lived in London this is 2009, 2010 um is when I kissed a boy for a first time, and it was at a Lady Gaga show at this gay bar you told me this.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I think I did, and my friend that I was living with was like do you know who Lady Gaga is? And I was like no. And then she was like what you haven't listened to this. And I was living with was like do you know who Lady Gaga is? And I was like no. And then she was like what? You haven't listened to this? And I was like, oh yeah, I think I heard Just Dance or something like that, and Poker Face no, I hadn't even heard that yet. And she was like well, you're gay and she's playing at this gay bar in London and we need to go. And like she's one of my favorite artists and dragged me out to this. Not dragged me out, but I was like, okay, let's do it, let's do it. So we went to this gay bar. It was ended up like a three-story club, like bus club, another club, another floor, another floor.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I saw Gaga there. And, yeah, I had my first gay kiss at the Gaga show at a small, intimate venue of three stories three stories but she was on the first floor and it was very small wait.

Speaker 1:

But like, could you imagine seeing Gaga like at that? Like, back then she opened for David Archuleta what, yeah, like she was like singing in such small venues. But what I love is that she was doing it in gay clubs. Yeah, because she was being the voice of, like this meat wearing her Kermit wearing dress lady who is being kind of like out there, different because no one else was doing it at the time and singing about sex.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then later on like singing about all people having sex, no matter your race, ethnicity, gender, what sexuality, all of it. Yeah, she's an icon. She is, and I'm so glad she's my number one like singer of all time. Yeah, truly, disco stick really got me. Oh yeah, that whole era. It's so good that was your honorable mention or your I just brought it up because I mentioned gaga.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you go on so on.

Speaker 1:

My next two are by the same artist, jesse jay um. She first off her song who you are like, just be who you are and like there's enough and yeah it just, it's just honestly that born this way and then uh, jesse, j's voice is iconic and she's so underrated.

Speaker 2:

Yes, she doesn't have like nearly the followership and fans that she deserves. She has one of the best voices in that's ever been recorded and she can control it so well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like whenever she does like. No, I can't, I can't do that. You know I'm talking about. Yeah, so good, um, but the last jesse j song was masterpiece. Um, I think that I don't know if I know that one. Uh, these are the pieces that I'm building, my masterpiece, like all of these pieces of me that I'm learning to love which loved enough, at the time when I was 18, to get a puzzle piece tattooed on the back of my arm.

Speaker 2:

Wait, that's why it's from a Jesse Jay song called Masterpiece. No way.

Speaker 1:

And I was 18. And to this day, everyone always asks me is it, you know, in support of being on the spectrum, things like that.

Speaker 2:

What does a puzzle piece have to do with being on the spectrum? And you're and you're not on the spectrum I'm not no, but people just assume that you are no because that is, maybe you should get diagnosed quit that.

Speaker 1:

Now you're the one who can. This is my rock. Okay, thank you for showing me, and we're not making fun of anyone on the spectrum but I'm just like, don't come at me. No, because I think that's like it represents, that I'm pretty sure, I think it does actually, yes, and so everyone just thinks it's that and then, honestly, I like intermittent, depending on like if I want to tell them or not, if I want to tell them or not.

Speaker 2:

I'd be like no, I just really like puzzles.

Speaker 1:

I'm like just, like, because I don't want to share with anyone and everyone.

Speaker 2:

The whole Jessie J story.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Picture this 18-year-old Caleb driving home from work and literally past a tattoo shop. I was like I'm going to go in there and get that. The same time I got these three dots tattooed on. No, whenever they first got done, people thought I got stabbed with a fork because there's just like. It was like bleeding in bed and so funny. But imagine actually. Yes, I did what was hilarious my bandwidth to explain stories, sometimes very short. Well, that was a long one could have been shorter.

Speaker 1:

What is the word whenever you're a hyper, not hypochondriac hype like?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Oh long-winded you mean like a paradox but not hyperbole.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't know what I'm trying to say. Hyperbolic, no, like it's never mind I can't teach you english, right now um what, what kind of?

Speaker 2:

what is your next like section? Okay, so I did my adolescence. The the ones that I have for my coming out teen era was Jodie Messina Heads, carolina Tales, california.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you can't beat it.

Speaker 2:

And then who's the guy who just did the cover of?

Speaker 1:

it Cole Swindell, I think, which is a pretty good cover, and he brought her on stage to sing it.

Speaker 2:

She should be bringing him on stage.

Speaker 1:

No, it's so crazy to me because, like Gretchen Wilson just toured with Brooks and Dunn, yeah, very small like venues in comparison with what they used to do, yeah, and then Jodie Messina is like was doing very small like arena. I think it was more like just kind of like outside venues. It was just crazy. Yeah, like people, just honestly, because, like people like kids these days, when I say kids these days, people a little bit younger than me, they're not listening. They never didn't grow up listening to it, so they're just not going out there to support them and they fucking should.

Speaker 2:

Those women walked so Taylor Swift could run Truly. Because she started in their genre, yeah, could run truly exactly because she started in their 100 percent. Uh genre, yeah, I do love a girl who starts off in country and transitions to pop, because one of my other ones from my teen years is jewel, um, you know, who started off like more country, but then the album that I had like pinned to my wall because I didn't have like paint and or wallpaper.

Speaker 2:

Like growing up I just like took CDs that I loved and I put thumbtacks in them and hung them all over the walls, and I did the same thing with my shopping bags next year Abercrombie bags. Yeah, but the jewel album that I had um was the intuition album. I forget what it's called, but the the song Intuition is on it and it just fucking slaps every single time, Also like Hoku. Do you remember her?

Speaker 1:

That's a singer or a haiku.

Speaker 2:

Hawaiian girl. She was like all over Disney Channel, Like, um, what song? Um, there's another dumb blonde and then there's the burrito song. What?

Speaker 1:

Breakfast burrito, that one that I play you all the time. How do I feel no about a burrito?

Speaker 2:

yeah yeah, what I thought maybe you'd get it.

Speaker 2:

No, the longer you sang, the less that out, the less I got lost, I mean the less I knew okay yeah, and then um, oh gosh, um, john mayer was on there and oh yeah, the whole like body is a wonderland thing. I think, like he probably turned me gay interesting. Yeah, I was like obsessed. I thought he was so hot, especially like and one of his songs, like I quoted one of his songs in my like senior year book, like I hate you for that, I know, I know I hate you for that.

Speaker 1:

Well, um, what do you have a category after that?

Speaker 2:

because you didn't have like college, okay, yeah. So go ahead first. Okay. So one of my favorite songs from college and just like brings me back. I just like love these songs that like they come on and you're immediately transported back to like a time or place. And there is this um band called css and you probably know their song. Um, music is my hot, hot sex because you know okay, it was part of like an apple ipod commercial um it was like one one of the first like iPod commercials and like no one knew, and then it was like a free single download of the week or something.

Speaker 2:

I always got those, yeah, absolutely. And then, like Starbucks started doing it and then you could get the free Starbucks download card, oh my God. Anyways, when I was studying abroad in London, I went to a concert of theirs in Amsterdam with like a bunch of my friends and we had like the best time, and every time that song comes on I just like transport it back to Amsterdam were you just like studying abroad just to listen to fucking great people and these like awesome venues?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I guess I didn't think about it at the time. I was just like going along for the ride.

Speaker 1:

Because you weren't like oh my God, I'm going to this huge concert. You're like yeah, sure, let's go. And then you got exposed to these great fucking artists. You probably could have got Gaga's signature at that gay bar. Probably Fuck. Signature autograph Same thing. Yeah, that's true, I guess um. Do you have any more?

Speaker 2:

on your list. Um, I have some honorable mentions. Okay, I want to hear those. Okay, so daft punk one more time, one more time oh okay, yeah, that's a thought, oh my god, okay, so I just like getting into like my clubbing era, you know, because I'm like 19, living in London, and I can drink, and so a little techno action. Um, and then Marina and the diamonds was also like slaps every time.

Speaker 1:

What's so fun is the two people that are on your list. So far I've seen them open. So Marina the diamonds open for panic at the disco and jewel open for train. I saw them both at Climate Pledge. Oh, wow, yeah, Recently, like last year or the year before.

Speaker 2:

You saw Marina of the Diamonds last year.

Speaker 1:

No, it was the year before 2021, 2022 when I moved here. Okay, yeah she opened.

Speaker 2:

She's no longer like, it's no longer Marina of the Diamonds, it's just Marina now, oh, diamonds is just marina now, oh, that's who I saw.

Speaker 1:

yeah, okay because, but she did play bubblegum bitch and prima donna. I love bubblegum bitch and radioactive and prima donna and, oh my gosh, all of it honestly, my college years were pretty fucking good with music and I know um david was talking about, like you know, the era of 2009, 2010 and, honestly, like when kesha was coming up on the scene and katie perry was in her fucking bag Like yeah, that was great, but I also got. Only what was it? The Demi Lovato Tell Me you Love Me album.

Speaker 2:

I got Dangerous Woman. Oh, that's great.

Speaker 1:

That was wonderful. And then Kelly had released. Kelly Clarkson released her first album Peace, pay Peace In a long time? No, maybe, no, what god. That's such a good song, though, like now I'm distracted because did you see? Her sing that pregnant on american idol of course, and she's fucking bawling, and so is keith, herb and j-lo, yeah, and then me I have that I.

Speaker 2:

I played that on the piano too and I just cannot get through it like I just cry every time. Could you imagine? Like she's talking about how her dad didn't love her? Yeah, and then she has. I played that on the piano too, and I just cannot get through it Like I just cry every time.

Speaker 1:

Could you imagine like she's talking about how her dad didn't love her, yeah, and then she has this husband that loves her so much but then, like now, seeing them go through the divorce and how he's doing her, and she is like in her fucking back singing the fuck out of every song. And our own TV show that's the only talk show that is going to last by a singer right now yeah kelly clarkson is amazing no one can like, disagree, no like on that, because um, it seems like everyone loves her it was like the sayings, like when was the last time like america felt like whole or like on the same page about something?

Speaker 1:

was kelly clarkson show, no, no everyone agrees her on american idol. Oh my god yeah because, like it was the first season of it, the first really of its time, that was popping the hell off. But she was also someone who was country but then would kind of go into these rock eras when she'd go out barefoot and her look, she could sing any genre.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and she has a great creative team that do amazing things with her styling and makeup and hair.

Speaker 1:

And so good. She's so vulnerable about so many things on her show and I loved whenever she brought the judges, like simon and them from her season, like on the show, and they were like we knew that you were gonna win as soon as you opened your mouth.

Speaker 2:

Wow I need to watch that episode. It it's so good honestly, so what?

Speaker 1:

else from your college um, so honestly, so dangerous woman was really big for me, and that was actually when I it is so good, honestly, what else from your college? So honestly, so Dangerous Woman was really big for me. And that was actually when I first started getting into concerts. I saw her and Little Mix open for her.

Speaker 1:

I love Little Mix too. They Just wait, I need to add. Remind me that I need to mention Jade's song as an honorable mention as my current, because that's so good. College-ish was just kind of those songs. None of them really really stuck out to me. Mention um jade song as an honorable mention as my current, because that's so good. College ish was just kind of those songs. None of them like really really stuck out to me. Um, because that I'm going to mention because it's my favorite all-time album that includes most of the songs that were from that era love it.

Speaker 1:

Okay that I want to do like now where I'm at in my life, motivational and also just how I hyperfixate.

Speaker 2:

This is going back to you playing one song all week long.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the most recent time I did that. That one's not even on here Shadow by Kesha but I still want to mention it Because if no one's listened to it, because you will overlook it in that album it's so good and what she did, the ted talk thingy, my bob and would she? Who isma? Is that who she looked like with their little head thing?

Speaker 1:

oh, yeah, but not her from emperor's new groove yeah, but not her, just a little headdress that she had on. Yeah, um, this one might make me a little emotional, but not, not like for any bad reason. I'll hold your hand if you want. Oh, thanks, do you know jesse murph? That's name sounds familiar. Um, I think I've sent you some of her songs. Okay, she, I know you love pink and her emotive song. Jesse murph sings a fuck out of every single song. It's raspy, it's raw and she sings uh, what happened to ryan was the song that about how, like they were young and dumb and she was drinking. He was drinking and she was like regretting that he died. I think maybe like, do you or a drinking driver, something?

Speaker 1:

like that and she was like I feel like a shitty friend, so I knew I should have taken like the bottle of the cup that's that's who she is.

Speaker 1:

I just want to explain that but, um, the song's not released, but I've seen her in concert twice um now and there's a song called uh, wildflowers and wine and it's about her mom. Okay, and like how like her mom wasn't like treated super well and like she would like by her parents. No, by a partner. Oh, okay, I don't know, her mom wasn't treated well by her grandma, by Jessie Murphy's grandmother. No, but like, don't ruin it. Okay, sorry, no, you're fine, but this song I know you want to cry, I don't want to cry, but I think you're, I don't know. I have to play it for you because she, it sounds a lot like you're a mom and how like mom you would do everything for us.

Speaker 2:

Like you would work. Like you would work two jobs, you'd work three jobs.

Speaker 1:

Like to take care of us and even when you're not being treated well by your partner, yeah, and she was singing about how like she wants someone to bring you wildflowers and wine, and it was like oh I think I do know this song and it was.

Speaker 1:

I think it may have showed it to you maybe I don't know, but I was, because it's like it was on the set list. She's saying it. I was bawling my eyes out. I sent it to my mom and it just oh, it just sent me for a loop because it's so good and she needs to release it. Jesse murph, please be listening to me right now. Please release this song, because everyone else feels the same way about their mom.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead, okay, so that makes me think of um this song that I sing all the time, that you love, when I sing in the car missing you love that yeah okay, I sing the tyler uh hilton version from one tree hill. Shout out um to all you one tree hill fans.

Speaker 1:

That's like no one I saw them go back to their high school a few years ago, did some photo shoot.

Speaker 2:

Um, it always makes me think of my mom, because it's like a song about missing someone but like not allowing yourself to miss them, so like it's about like denying that, that feeling of like I'm not gonna let having them gone yeah, having them gone and out of your life, and I'm just gonna like pretend that I didn't want to cry, but damn no I.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know that that's what it meant for you yeah and early in the car because I know maybe, maybe because you play it a lot around us, you tried to skip it. And I said no no, no, I said you're going to sing the fuck out of it.

Speaker 2:

I know, I know. And then you're like okay, now bigger, better.

Speaker 1:

And then I was like you can hit it. You can hit it, but you sing the fuck, just like you sing the fuck out of the song Pop. Oh yeah, we need to do some karaoke soon. Yeah, Honestly, I've been missing it, Sitting there in the crowd Listening, Not having to go up there, Because I, especially when you sing like I kept making you sing songs today because it just you just emote, so I don't know. You just do it so well.

Speaker 2:

Like Pink. You saying I sound like pink? Okay, let me stand on your abs while you sing, because she did it on the fucking news I saw.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I'm going to. That was just a shout out to our moms.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, shout out to our moms Songs that make us think of our mom and how they just are fucking badass women.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Because you know, especially growing up, they're dealing with stuff that we know we saw about they're dealing with stuff that we know we saw about, but just trying to put on a good face and take care of it I can't even take care of myself, and they were taking care of us, I know.

Speaker 1:

So, songs I've been listening to which you're going to know one of them right off the bat, because I did have to bring it up to you, because I finally told you the name of it Tattoo by Lorene, oh yes, the winner of Eurovision, the only female to win it twice, 2012, 2023. Okay, then, what I have left is my album and then honorable mention overall, because I think it sums up the show pretty well.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all I have is my current two favorite girliesies. Okay, give it to me and I've already mentioned them, like earlier in like songs. But sarah borales, she can fucking get it. And kelly clarkson, I mean, I literally can listen to all of their like every single album, every single song they've ever made, and be very content so like who?

Speaker 1:

okay, to round out your top three. Yeah, artists, yeah, give me one more. I'm not prepared what do you mean you're not prepared, was it not Gaga? Oh yeah, yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, I set you up for that one.

Speaker 2:

And Gaga.

Speaker 1:

Oh interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would say the same thing.

Speaker 1:

But like Sara Bareilles though, because they're like the mainstream pop girlies people always having Gaga or they're going to have Christina Aguilera or just like all these people that are pitting against each other, and you're like I'm with Sarah Morales.

Speaker 2:

I just love singer-songwriter vibes.

Speaker 1:

That's very.

Speaker 2:

yeah, Goes back to my like James Taylor, you know thing that I like, grew up listening to oh, that makes sense, and you? Those are all songs that you can typically play on the piano. That too.

Speaker 1:

So it benefits you musically. Yeah, okay, truly, truly, truly, um, I want to so my all-time favorite album, and when I say it's, it has to be an album really that, like, for me, moves me, but then also, um, I know every single song on the album and that's. I cry when I laugh, when I cry when I laugh by jess glenn oh, jess, and most people only know her from her, rather be there's no place around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, please around me that's clean bandit with jess glenn. Clean bandit plays the cello, yeah, yeah, I know, but she is listed as a feature.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh my God, and like Dara Lark.

Speaker 2:

They have so many good pairings, I know.

Speaker 1:

But that album for me, and I have been on the hunt for that vinyl record with her autograph Ooh and again. That's the only reason that I'm going to ACL Fest, really. I mean, there's other people I'm excited about, like Rene Rapp, because oh, slay the Highest on Boots. But Jess Glynn sings my favorite album of all time and I am going to hear her. Yeah, just like every song, we have to come to an end, so let's close it out with a bridge and honey, we'll get you home with a big Finale oh, I was going to say belt, oh, that too, yeah. Say belt, oh that too, yeah. Or a soft falsetto like uh you had to do back home.

Speaker 1:

So we'll go into victory and vice. You want to start, yeah, um, my victory.

Speaker 2:

In a song I would say um, since we're going to go along, you know, with this whole music yeah, so we're going to like pick a our top song that we're listening to right now as our oh, oh, no, that's not for me. Okay, I'm interpreting it different. Oh, what did you do?

Speaker 1:

I wanted to tie in a victory with a song because it had to be from right now. Oh, okay, okay. So mine would be Music by JoJo. Okay, I played that for you just a few minutes ago, and how music's always been there through all these tough times.

Speaker 2:

And I think that that's kind of what from my breakup album, the whole jojo album. Um, what's the album called? You're gonna steal my song. Oh, I'm not gonna. I won't say the song. Um, hold on, what was it?

Speaker 1:

it's just the whole album. It was her like um well, it was just called jojo, I think it was like it was her, like it was her first like outside album outside of the her label yeah, I think I'm pretty sure we could be wrong. We will um call kyle out on instagram if he's wrong.

Speaker 2:

um, but I was in palm springs celebrating my birthday when my boyfriend cheated on me at the time and that was the album that I was listening to and it just like became this like album where every time any song on it comes on, I flash back to the airplane flight, back sitting next to him, knowing that it was over, and like listening to that. I literally had to like put like a pillow over my head because I was just like crying into the window. I thought I I was gonna spend the rest of my life with this person and you have to sit next to them on a fucking plane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah kyle, you know that I make rash heart, uh, emotional decisions. Yeah, I would have probably either rented a fucking car and I hate driving yeah, or like you know what, from palm springs to seattle, though you know what?

Speaker 2:

I'm just gonna live here now, yeah, not moving back there.

Speaker 1:

From your breakup album. I'm glad it's my victory.

Speaker 2:

No, but it's because I think it's All my suffering is your victory.

Speaker 1:

Okay, just like my 401k. So come for me, bitch. Maybe, I'll be entitled to financial compensation because of you? No, but it All of the songs. I think when you and I talk about songs, we really go in deep Because, even if we're not feeling that same emotion, just the fact that someone is sharing that emotion, that's why we really enjoy music.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the fact that the person that is writing it may be thinking about something completely different.

Speaker 1:

But it has the same emotion as whatever. It is that like the way that we're interpreting it, you know, yeah, like love story love song by sarah braless right, I didn't know that up until recently, right, that was about a big fu, but um so. Music by jojo. She sings about how music's always been there for her, like even when she was uh dealing with stuff from her childhood and like even how, like she, you know, got into like a similar adjacent mess as far as like be uh kesha is about being trapped in her uh record deal that she signed at 12 years old right and still singing about how she still loves music and it's always been there for her.

Speaker 1:

And although she's gone through all of that, she I don't know it, just it's such a beautiful song to me because all of the stuff that she's gone through, all of that shit, she, I don't know it, just it's such a beautiful song to me because all of the stuff that we've gone through at different times in our life, like music's always been there yeah, oh, I love that.

Speaker 2:

Um, okay, I, my victory is just like my favorite song of the moment. Okay, and it's the new song by k Minogue.

Speaker 1:

You did say you were going to.

Speaker 2:

Tovelo or Tovelu as she says. Yeah, as she pronounces properly in the song, and Bebe Rexha. All three of them are phenomenal. I mean just like independent artists on their own, but putting them all together blew my mind La la, la la la. I asked you if you were gonna use this yeah wait, what's the song called my oh my, my oh my?

Speaker 1:

oh, why? Because I asked you.

Speaker 2:

You thought I was thinking of what I thought you said my, my my, I thought you were like choice of on no, I said my, oh my you heard what you wanted to hear, okay well, I did not skip that song earlier on the radio.

Speaker 1:

My, my, my.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's my favorite Cause. I wanted to use it. No.

Speaker 1:

Okay, why is it your favorite, other than like three, like boss bitches, like what is this song itself?

Speaker 2:

It's just like an amazing bop and like, as soon as it comes on, it puts you in a good mood and, like you, just like, want to shake your booty, truly.

Speaker 1:

I told you I listened to it for eight hours straight at work on thursday, yeah, and then I showed it to you and I'm like you have to fucking listen to this, and usually it's like an emotive song or a song you've probably heard me play.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you were like yeah it was a new song for me and, yeah, caleb introduced me to it and there's a music video for it. That also slaps, I mean.

Speaker 1:

And except, except for Bebe.

Speaker 2:

Rexha's hair in it. Everything else is great.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm not about tearing women down, but I can support it because it's not my favorite hair look Okay, but she looked fucking great.

Speaker 2:

She did Head to toe.

Speaker 1:

The hairstyle fits the look. Okay, I'll say that, agree to disagree. That's fine. Style fit the look. Okay, I'll say that, agree to disagree. That's fine. Um, my advice it involved, uh, doing an extra what? Two miles of leaving our initial night last night. A mile out and a mile in, yeah so I look at we're like ish slowly starting to put things away.

Speaker 2:

Kyle made a soup for breakfast everything's soup when it's dehydrated food, even when you add the right amount of liquid.

Speaker 1:

And then we had the biscuit and gravy, which is like licorice, and it just was not good. So we're like sitting there I'm reading my book and Kyle's like I'm helping Kyle start to put stuff together. I was like Kyle, we're going to have to go soon and I was like nature is a calling.

Speaker 2:

I was like, oh, you got to go. And you're like, nope, I'm not going to go, I'm not going to go on the beach, I'm just going to wait. Everything's going to be fine, but I got to go.

Speaker 1:

And then I look over and you're like there's an outhouse. I was like there's four people in line. So, kyle, I am having to run back to the trailhead, right now and then I was like what of this can I take with me? Make a quick decision, because I have to go yeah so that way it'd be an easier trek back.

Speaker 1:

What I tell you? I hiked and there's a little bit of here with hill, with some steps. I made it there just like speed walking, because there's people and I'm passing them. 13 minutes, wow, the longest 13 minute mile. I mean that's as long as it takes for most people to run okay, but but if you think about it that it's uphill.

Speaker 2:

No, that is very fast, is what I'm saying? Oh my God.

Speaker 1:

And I was holding the good Lord and I was praying, there was beads of sweat coming down my face, oh my God. And the entire time I'm like you know what? Because I was just reading my IFS book. I'm like this is a time that I can work on coaching younger caleb. Let's do, let's do some parts work, because it was the part being your butthole. No, I was talking about like stay in. No, I was like talking about like parts that had come up recently we had a conversation earlier because it allowed me enough to get like almost like disassociated from present self and to like work on like inner child stuff, which is so odd, but that's what I was, the only reason I was able to make it not believe you're working on inner child stuff while you were trying to keep poop from coming out of your butt?

Speaker 1:

kyle. You know what, when they say when inspiration hits you and it would seem to work for you. It's. It worked because it got my mind so off me having to, because there's a few times I'd like stop and like, okay, deep breath, hold it, you can do it, you can do it.

Speaker 1:

It's. What's so funny is I didn't even like make it to the porta potty, like near a parking spot. There's two at the trailhead. I and I was like, oh my god, I can't bring these bags in with me. I didn't even care what was in them, I threw them to the ground next to the porta potty yes and then I'm in and out quickly, thank god, I hate it I hate sitting there forever.

Speaker 1:

Okay, bear with us on this next little segment as we um finish up our vice and virtue I'm just a girl learning how to edit and record a fucking podcast, and the content is so worth it it's worth it and we know it sounds kind of like tinny, but, um, I don't know what we did.

Speaker 2:

We were in the freaking rainforest. Okay, just like give us a break not being hosed in the whole rainforest yeah, okay, um continue listening.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I got to the fucking porta potty. Threw your stuff down, threw it on the ground, and I was in and out of there so swiftly that I like. Could I pause my timer when I was in there, like my walking tracking on my watch? There is sanitizer in there, by the way. Because Kyle did ask, I did use it double pumped. Okay, so then I go and I put the stuff in the car or the van and then change and then get my uh monster and then I'm booking it back. Didn't you say?

Speaker 2:

you. You went so fast that you like turned back around. You were like wait, did I go? Like you came out, wash your hands, grab the bag, and you're like wait, did I already go?

Speaker 1:

okay, but this is gonna be tmi, but I'm just gonna share it anyway. So, like for you specifically, like you, pee, when you first sit down to go, you do your business, you sit oh, I got it okay, oh my god, kyle, let me get to the finish line.

Speaker 1:

So you pee when you first get down there, because then you like it's not happening at the same time, and then it happens, and then like do you know when? Because then, like a little bit more pee's done. I'm like, oh, there's no more coming out. Do you know what I'm talking about? Wait, I'm so fucking louis, wait what? But like why do I feel weird cheering it? I know, because, like that's my timer.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that anyone else did that. I know right now and thank god, I'm talking about my bowel habits and but it's so true, like you, first you pee, then you go number two. Wait, can you pee a little bit more?

Speaker 1:

I don't know why can we please post this as a poll on? Instagram because I first off. I want to know does it happen?

Speaker 2:

to anyone? Anyone, does anyone pee and poo at the same time? But then I want to know is it?

Speaker 1:

if, if people doing it, but is it men only? Or can like?

Speaker 2:

women, women, pee and poo at the same time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, wait, no, kyle. That's not what I was saying so you pee and then you poop.

Speaker 2:

But then, like you pee a little bit at the end, yeah, and that's when you're done. You don't know if women do that, yeah, yeah. Well, I want to know if anyone else does that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but now whenever I know you're pooping, I'm like, okay, he's probably done. I heard the dribble. Because that's such a, that's such a safe way, I'm like, okay, I can go in now hello, okay, no you better be juicy, because I, just like, was very vulnerable, literally with my pants down. I'm from the whole world right now.

Speaker 2:

Okay, my advice is that, um, the day before we left on the trip, I woke up and I had this crick in my neck. And I still have this crick in my neck, as you heard at the beginning of the episode, and I just like slept on it. Weird or something. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Or, as Caleb said, in your king size bed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I was determined to hang upside down because I was like this is going to fix my crink in my neck. And so I was like I'm going to get my aerial silks hung from the ceiling. I have to get this anchor into the ceiling, but I don't have a ladder. So I'm like what am I going to do? I go get my dresser, I take out all the drawers, I move it over to the middle of the bedroom so I can stand on top of it to drill holes into the ceiling With your stud finder. I had a stud finder, I had a power drill. I mean, I was A handyman.

Speaker 1:

I was a fucking handyman After asking for someone who could be your handyman on Grindr.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, in the process of taking the drawers out, I broke one of the support bars to the drawer, so I was like, great, now I have to fix that.

Speaker 1:

And that's where it starts, because what did you do when you were still standing on it?

Speaker 2:

So I'm standing on it and I'm drilling into the ceiling and I found the stud and I hit metal and I'm like great, so like what is going on? I watched all these YouTube videos. I'm trying to figure out like why is there metal around the support beam? And I'm looking out the window I'm like seeing where the beam comes out. I'm like there's no metal out there. Why is there metal in here? So then I go down to another one and I try to like find that one, and then I just give up and I put like my dresser away and I I do use my power drill to fix the support beam with a new screw and put the drawers back oh, I didn't know this.

Speaker 1:

I thought we just haven't break two broken furniture pieces no, I fixed it.

Speaker 2:

But then I go downstairs and david, our other roommate, um is like kyle, your car is like leaking some sort of fluid. I was like like awesome, I just got my oil changed, maybe something like that's going on. Then I opened the hood and like the oil is just fine. I like check the dipstick I'm very butch so I know how to do that and then I noticed that the coolant is like below the men. So I'm like what the actual fuck is going on? Um, why is my day being so terrible and why is nothing working out? And I was just having like a really hard day and you skipped another broken furniture piece oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and the. I have like a little bench that I used to step up onto my dresser to drill the holes and when I got down off of it one of the legs snapped off of it so you should just not be on furniture.

Speaker 1:

I should just have no furniture and also what I love is maybe we should like tell austin and brian not to listen to this episode, because they know that you just drilled into metal in the roof okay, but I only like took a little bit of drywall off but the metal piece. What is that?

Speaker 2:

I didn't drive, I didn't drill into it.

Speaker 1:

You just felt it. I just felt it Like when you're putting a shovel in the ground you hit a rock, you're done.

Speaker 2:

And I could see a little bit of metal and I was like this is not going through, it's wood and I need to be able to drill into wood to hang my aerial silks.

Speaker 1:

Imagine you're like, okay, it's probably fine.

Speaker 2:

And then you but I was also like, maybe if I fall and hit my neck, it'll fix it.

Speaker 1:

Or severely damage you. Yeah, you have been asking about these aerial soles. We just have to borrow a ladder or you can do a basket toss.

Speaker 2:

I have friends coming over next week to help me do it who have a ladder, and one of them is a contractor. So yeah, have contractor friends and mechanic friends. They're important, he's coming prepared for that.

Speaker 1:

That'll be a fun Also. Hopefully he doesn't hit metal. He probably knows he's like oh, there's probably metal there?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm assuming that's what contractors do for a living. Do they have metal?

Speaker 1:

detectors. Are they one of those people who just start knocking on the wall? They're like that's a stud. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Maybe he'll be knocking on you.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, oh, that's a stud. Um, I felt like, oddly, this episode went really fast, although it definitely didn't, because this is a lot of content. Yeah, um, is there anything else that you want to say about music?

Speaker 2:

kind of, as we close after victim advice I would say like general theme for me when it comes to music is it has such a huge impact on my like well-being, my mood in those moments, and like having a properly um prepared soundtrack for your life, I think is really important and like that's what these songs are to me.

Speaker 2:

They're like soundtracks to my life, you know, and just like a song comes on and it like reminds you so much of a movie, like a song comes on my ipod shuffle or whatever, and it brings me right back to those moments. And I would also say that like I think that like being a really like sensitive kid growing up, maybe like the two are tied somehow, not that like the music made me sensitive, but or like me as a kid being sensitive related so much to like those really like emotional songs, um, I think they definitely like had a interplay with one another, you know that's interesting because you know we talked about empaths last time and I almost felt like that's also a release of whatever emotions you're picking up around you, because there's sometimes.

Speaker 1:

I would just listen to a song, just not necessarily how I'm feeling and it almost does, is like, oh, I'm understanding their, that emotion that someone was just sharing with me, and like this is me almost letting it out of me now oh yeah, like for you personally, it's letting, like letting, like letting the emotion that I kind of picked up from them that listening to a song about it or something was like so it's not like, just for like shit. I've been through.

Speaker 1:

It's more of, like you know, taking on other people's emotions or baggage or weight. It's like this has nothing to do with me. Like feeling something from it because it's my release yeah, yeah, and bathtubs yeah, what about you.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to say like anything about music and why it's important to you?

Speaker 1:

I will say it's always just, it just explains so much about like how I'm feeling but also can pull me out of such a negative space too. So, like, there's times like I just want to, like it's almost like someone's in that hole with me and I want to listen to that song because, like, I'm feeling seen and feeling heard, but then you know like if you're in a grumpy mood or if, like you know, you're feeling emotional or whatever you need to get yourself out of it. I also turn to like these uplifting, motivating, like badass songs. So I just think it it it's always there to adapt to what I'm going through because, like you you said it's a soundtrack to your life. Yeah, and honestly, like an artist is experiencing the same way, releasing music, and I feel so I just love that time period in their life I'm experiencing and it could be like an album they released 20 years ago. It could be an album they released recently and it's always just meant a lot to me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, with that we will say goodnight to the listeners at home and we have some mashed potatoes to eat.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, I'm so excited. Maybe that'll be my victory next week. Because I'm so excited. We had two cups of them last night. Now we have two more.

Speaker 2:

They actually are pretty good and they're hydrated.

Speaker 1:

And there are four cheese, four cheese and we did bring the fifth cheese, the most important craft single.

Speaker 2:

I know, that was my idea last night but what? If we brought a craft single and put that in there?

Speaker 1:

more plastic. That's what you've decided. That like what I like to taste his palette is uh, yeah, how much plastic is this made with? Honestly or cardboard yeah, two in the same singles. I'm full, I ate it up. Finger looking good, I'm happy. Dehydrated potatoes, oh my god. And the stuffing we have stuffing, oh my god, I'm so excited.

Speaker 2:

I'm so excited about it.

Speaker 1:

So y'all, I need to continue this excitement, but until next week we wish you well keep singing bitches.