Ep.17 Wow, I Was Wrong About That: How Scripture Changed My Perspective

In this episode of the FOUND & REFINED podcast, host Amy LeSage delves into the powerful impact of Christian music and the importance of building a personalized relationship with God. Amy shares a personal and humorous story about listening to 'Homesick for Heaven' by Phil Wickham with her son, leading to a deeper conversation about faith, God's omnipotence, and the importance of maintaining a close relationship with Him. 

She explores a recent 'aha' moment from reading Philippians, highlighting the significance of trusting God's plan, living in obedience, and finding peace amidst life's challenges. Amy emphasizes the transformative power of reading the Bible and encourages listeners to integrate scripture into their daily lives to foster a closer connection with God.

00:00 Welcome to FOUND & REFINED

00:09 The Power of Christian Music

01:07 A Story of Homesick for Heaven

02:38 Understanding God's Magnificence

06:40 Building a Relationship with God

06:57 The Importance of Reading the Bible

10:17 Lessons from Philippians

20:01 Paul's Secret to Contentment

23:21 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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       ➺ “Homesick for Heaven (LIVE)" - Phil Wickham

       ➺ “God I'm Just Grateful" - Elevation Worship & Chandler Moore

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Transcript

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Hi guys. Welcome to the Funnel REFINED podcast. I am your host, Amy LeSage, and I am super happy to have you here with me. I wanna dive right in and just ask you, have you been listening to any good Christian music? Man, I'm just loving what's coming out lately and, um. I'm just wondering, have you guys tuned in at all? are you listening? Are you finding cool songs that are resonating? I would love to hear from you if you are. I would actually, I would love song suggestions because I just love Christian music and music in general. Um, so much. Uh, so if you have song suggestions, just like head over to one of my, social media pages, it's FOUND REFINED, shoot me a dm. I would love to hear what you're listening to that's maybe lifting you up or getting you through a hard time, or actually keeping you on the up and up just in general. You're just praising God.'cause man, he's worth praising. Um. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So on that note, I actually want to tell you a story. I've been having these moments and that's kinda what this episode is gonna be about. Is just these aha moments that are coming up lately for me. The first one is kind of a funny story, about a song. So I don't know if you guys have heard the song, it's, it's not brand new, but it's newer and it's by Phil Wickham and it's called, Homesick for Heaven. And, I just love it. My kids and I, we jam to it in the car and it's just a really cool song the live version, I would say is the best version of them all. so it came on and I was in the car with my oldest son and, We got to a part at the end where it says,"I'll run as fast as I can into your arms.'cause I was created to be where you are. There's an ache in my heart. I'm homesick for heaven." And I looked to my son and I was like, I love that part. I can't wait. to go to heaven. my kids always get sensitive if I talk about like, man, I'm excited for heaven, you know? I have to be really careful. I'm like, I'm not trying to go to heaven now. I'm just excited for when the time comes. Right? And so, he's like, okay, mom, I was like, no, no, no, seriously. Like I can't wait to give God a hug. Like I cannot wait to hug him and just thank him. I just can't wait to do that. And, uh, he's just kind of looking at me like I'm crazy. and all of a sudden this thought pops into my head and I'm like, how many people. Die per minute. And my son's like, what? I don't know. And I was like, no, no, no. It's a statistic. There's a statistic about how many people die per minute. And I think it's like alarming. It's a lot. I don't know what it is, but it's a lot. And he's like, okay. How many of us are gonna wanna go hug God? How many of us are gonna wanna just like praise him and like thank him and go be by him and just wrap our arms around him, if that's even possible. Right? Is that even possible? I don't know, but it feels like there's gonna be like a line. He's just looking at me like Mom. And I was like, that's, that's a lot. That's, that's hard to imagine. And then my brain goes to I talk to God all the time. All the time, and I know he's with me and I know he hears me. And he has people dying, multiple people per minute, and he is listening to every single person in their request and he's doing miracles and all these other crazy things that we don't even personally know about because they're happening with other people around the world, like He's so magnificent. Like, I literally can't even, I was looking at my son, he was actually looking at me like, what is going on with her? But my brain was like trying to process this thought, and I felt like smoke. He, he actually was looking at me like smoke was coming out of my ears because my brain was just processing, How does he do it? I can't even imagine doing a little teeny weeny, itty bitty part of what he does, let alone all the things that he does. and then you guys, it hit me. He wants a personalized relationship with each and every one of us. Personalized individual relationship with each of us, on top of all of the other things. And he's waiting for us to be ready for that. He's waiting on us to reach out and grab his hand. He's waiting on us to turn and have the relationship with him. I was like, mind blown at the thought of how amazing he is and how blessed, truly, honestly, blessed we are to have a God so loving, so amazing, so big, so powerful, miraculous, all of these things. I don't, I don't even have the words, right? I don't even have the proper words to describe his magnificence. And He wants to be close with us. He yearns for it. He wants it, he desires it. What are we doing with that opportunity? Are we really thinking about it? Are we really leaning into it? Are we really trying to have that relationship with him? Are we taking it for granted? I mean, I feel like we all have. We all will. We're sinful humans. But dang man. I was like, that's like a mic drop moment for God. Like big, big mic drop moment. I don't know, you guys, it's those kind of things. Like all of that stuff is I've, I've known it, but it was like when I put it together and I started like trying to understand what that looks like, what that means. It was just overwhelming. It was overwhelming and I just feel so thankful. Um. We're so blessed you guys. Please don't take it for granted. Please try not to take it for granted that God wants to have a relationship with you. And I guess that's gonna bring me to my next point./Because one of the best ways to do that is by obviously communicating to him, praying to him, speaking to him, just talking to him, keeping him in the loop and asking for his guidance. calling to him. But also... I know some of you're gonna roll your eyes at this, but it is reading the Bible. It is getting into the word. He speaks to our spirit. The Holy Spirit speaks to us, and we can start understanding and connecting dots that weren't able to be connected without his voice attached to it, which is coming through the Bible into our spirit. It's just, it's this. It's this whole thing. And I, I don't know, like maybe you're hearing that right now and you're thinking about it how I used to think about it. and I still, I still am like not in a routine of where I've made it a priority every day. Like, I can still be better. I know I could be better at it. But, every time I go to the Bible, every time that I'm reading it, I get some, even if it's the smallest little nugget of information that's going to get me through that day, or maybe even it's gonna pop up in my head the next day with some debate I'm having in my own mind. I just, it pops up. It's like stored there. It's not that I've memorized it, it's just it comes to me in the most perfect moments, and that's by design. That isn't a coincidence. I will tell you, I don't really believe in coincidences right now. I think there are things that are happening. there is a purpose and a meaning behind it. There is a lesson to be learned from it. But I truly believe, it's not by coincidence that these things happen. And so that's what I wanna talk to you guys about today, that just recently, happened to me, Right before I wrote out this, episode, actually. I've told you guys before, I am super into, The Immerse reading Bible. and read through parts of this with a women's group. because I was ill, I wasn't able to attend and I didn't keep up with the reading. So I've intentionally come back to this and started from the beginning and I'm reading to the end just so I can get it all. In one huge swoop. there's five more of these that make up the, the Old Testament. This Messiah, this one is only the New Testament. But anyways, it reads smooth. I'm gonna probably botch this up, like this isn't an ad for them, so. Basically, it's in paragraph form. It reads like a book more so, it is the Bible. They take out the numbers and, chapters and things like that. So it just flows a little smoother Paul wrote quite a few of the New Testament books. so it has all of his writings back to back So it, it just kind of flows better. I find it to be an amazing, Bible to read from, and of course, at, at the top it'll give you, you know, chapters and, and verses of what book you're in. But it gives you like this overview before you even step into the chapter. And it's just amazing. I can't say enough about it. it really ignited like a flame inside of me to read the Bible again. I highly, highly recommend anyone who wants to get into reading the Bible to come here. If you're finding it hard or confusing to read like King James or even NIV, still read the Bible and come to try, this is what I'm trying to say. Right now I'm in a space and I've talked to you guys about this the past couple episodes. I'm just in a space where things are just really unknown and I'm trying very hard to follow God's plan for me and also to figure out like, are you waiting on me? Are you waiting on me to do something, or am I waiting on you? Like, who's, who's waiting for who? Am I looking at this wrong? am I supposed to make a move and do something different? Or am I just supposed to wait here and really trust And know that you are in control, even though this doesn't feel great at all this space, this unknown space. Like, am I just supposed to sit in this and really just barely make it by the skin of my teeth? I don't know. It's just like this whole like battle, right? That I'm going through And so I'm Trying to get through all of those feelings and, manage all of that at this current moment. I know in my gut when it's time for me to go to the Bible, I, it's, it's like there's times where I'm like, I should really read the Bible, but there are times where I'm like. You better go in the Bible, go open the Bible and go get some information. It's time. it's almost just like an ache in my heart. It's a, it's a feeling in my stomach. It's just this overwhelming, knowledge, just an understanding that that's what I need to go do./So the other day, um. I was like, okay, I don't even, I think I'm in Philippians. I really wanted to go to a book that I knew would be like this uplifting message that I could walk away feeling a certain way about when it was done, just'cause I knew what that chapter would bring. But I have committed myself to staying on track cover to cover. So where I left off is where I need to go and continue reading. And I need to trust that if God is gonna speak, if the Holy Spirit's gonna speak to me through this word, that it will be in whatever chapter it is that I'm reading, I get into Philippians and I'm thinking to myself just kind of went like brain dead. And I was like, gosh, are there even any good verses like, you know, like the classic ones that you would see printed out there aren't even any good ones. There aren't even any really good ones in Philippians. Totally forgetting any of the verses totally just negative about it, but, but still open, right? I was like, I'm still open. Let's see, I'm gonna give it my all. I'm gonna give it my heart. I'm gonna give it my attention and I'm gonna come into this Bible. reading with an open heart, but in the back of my mind I was like. Man, I wish I was in something different where I could like really know that I was gonna get a good, a good talking to. Right. so I'm reading and Philippians isn't big. I had already started it and just had a few more pages to go till the end. so I start reading chapter two, I think I was kind of in my own mind at this moment I've just, I've just been battling comparisons and just some, you know, things in my head Where I think I should be and where I'm actually at, And I was feeling like things aren't always so fair, you know? I wish things could be a little more fair. Certain things are hitting me like, that's not sucks, that's not really fair, but it is what it is, right? Like I understand all that, So I head into Philippians, right? and I'm reading and we get to the part and this is what it'll, I'm gonna read it to you in this immersed Bible. I hope that's okay. I don't think that you can't read it. Gosh, if there's some like, copyright thing, I don't know. I'm gonna, I'm gonna read it. Chapter two verse five, you must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had, though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, he gave up his design privileges. He took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on the cross." When I read that. Immediately in my head this thought of like, you think life can be so unfair, but look at how Jesus was treated out of anybody who could say they weren't treated fairly or things didn't go fairly or, or life wasn't fair to them. He was God's child, perfect. Lived a perfect life, and died on a cross as a criminal, He did everything right. He, he helped everyone. He was here to serve, teach, love. And he was treated like a criminal. He was treated horribly. He humbled himself. He always put God first, and he died a criminal's death on a cross. It just hit me like a tidal wave of you think life's not fair. Life wasn't fair to him at all. Not at all. The person that could complain about that the most would be Jesus. But he wouldn't say a word. He would never right. He never. He just continued serving God, doing his will. Even in his last breath, forgiving, forgiving people because they didn't understand I guess when I read that. I mean, I was immediately brought to tears. I just was like, you are right. This world, this life here on earth isn't gonna be fair. And we can't sit there and let that consume us. We can't let unfair situations consume us or take over and, and actually strip us of our happiness because things are so unfair and we're focused on that part. Or they feel unfair or they look unfair, We don't know what God is doing in those moments. And even though I could say those things and I can tell myself that stuff, reading these verses, just it connected the feeling with the thought. It connected the dots. It made a full connection that when I start feeling that way, or if a thought pops into my head like, dang, that sucks. I really wish X, or I really hate that this happened with this person and not me. Or, I really should at this point be in this place by this time. Or had that person not done something, then I would be in a different situation. Whatever it is. I'm just trying to say, we could fill in the blanks in all different ways. however you feel like things haven't been just and fair and right. It just goes to show like wasn't fair to the only most perfect person that's ever walked this earth, Jesus. His walk shows us how do you handle the unfairness? What do you do? When things aren't going your way or as you feel they should, what did he do? What did he model in those moments? How did he treat life in those times? That's what God calls us to do. Not sit there and be like, Hmm, ho hum poor me, and it's hard. It's hard to not let our human nature take over and think that way. Everything Jesus did is an example of what we need to be. I've said that before and I will continue saying it because I have to tell myself that I went through the rest of that chapter and We need to live in obedience to God is what Jesus shows us in those moments. We need to be living in complete obedience to him, I went on, it talks about how we need to be the light in a world of darkness. And Rejoice. Rejoice in him. Rejoice. Thank God, even in hard times. It was interesting because I could have probably stopped reading there and had gotten plenty. Of what I needed, and that was about three sentences into starting my reading, but then I saw that I only had a couple more pages left, and so I wanted to read some more. Man alive. It's so funny. I forgot that there is a very well known verse in Philippians, and I just, it slipped my mind and it speaks completely to what I'm feeling. But I continued reading chapter four, verse six. Where it says, and this is in the Immersed Bible, it says, don't worry about anything. Instead, pray about it. Tell God what you need and thank him for all he has done. Then you'll experience God's peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus. Another point that I could have stopped on, but a little further down. Paul is writing this letter thanking the people in Philippi for helping him. They cared about him, they supported him, um, in financial ways as well. And, he's saying thank you and what he writes at the end, just, it just like, man, I couldn't stop crying because it was so powerful. It says, How I praise the Lord that you are concerned about me. Again, I know you have always been concerned for me, but you didn't have the chance to help me. Not that I was ever in need, for I have learned how to be content with whatever I have. I know how to live on almost nothing or with everything. I've learned the secret of living in every situation, whether it is with a full stomach or empty with plenty or little for, I can do everything through Christ who gives me strength," which is a huge, well-known verse." Even so you have done well to share with me in my present difficulties." Paul learned throughout his life. He experienced so many things, good, bad, suffering, prisons. You know, persecutions, But he learned how to live in every situation. And I literally feel like I'm being tested in that exact thing. I have learned the secret of living in every situation. What a valuable lesson, and the way that he learned that, Was that he had to be put in all of those situations and realize that God was in control and Trust. I, I'm sure the first time he probably was a little concerned, but as those situations continued, he was at peace because he had seen God work. he knows. For, I can do everything through Christ who strengthens me. Such a powerful verse. It's just so funny. I went into Philippians. I mean, I had to just let this sit for a while and just cry for a little while being like, man, I've. I really have to switch my frame of mind, right? I was caught in a thought pattern that just was not serving me properly at times, and not that I lived there, but I allowed it at times to, play in my head. You know I didn't know what I would read that day, and I just, I know that it was put so heavy on my heart for a reason because I needed to hear that. And so I encourage you, I really do encourage you to get into the Bible and let God speak to your spirit through it. It's just a closeness that you can't really get a lot of other ways. it's a great way to feel connected and close to God. That's what it was designed for. That's what it's here for. And it just proved that in every way the other day. And so if you take nothing else, if these things don't really resonate with you or you don't have an anxious heart, or you're you're in a good place, you know, which praise God. Be thankful. Make sure you're thanking him for all the good, but if nothing else, I hope that you can hear me say, if you're not already reading the Bible and trying to grow your relationship with him this way, you might be missing out on some information, on some key communication in your life. You might be missing out on a lifeline, you might be missing out on like a, a call a friend. You know what I mean? Like that's exactly what this was for me. It felt like a phone call to God. That's what it felt like. It was like my heart was telling me pick up the phone and give, give him a call, and the phone and the conversation was the Bible. I don't wanna cry on camera, but it's just so real and like it's convicting, you know? He, he'll grab you. it's, I don't feel bad about how I've been thinking. I can't quite say it. I, I don't, I don't feel bad. I don't feel guilty. I don't feel shamed for how I was feeling and thinking, but I'm realizing I need to look at it differently. So I think that's important for us. And that's how he, that's how he speaks to you. Golly, you guys, sorry, I should have put Kleenex in here. My sister told me to put Kleenex in here and I didn't. Uh, she was right. Um, I should have. But anyways, the lifeline, pick up the phone, pick up the Bible and communicate. And if you're. Also, in a moment where I am just feeling like, gosh, this is all feels so unfair. I've been here for so long. Like what? What gives God? What gives? Like what are who? What are we waiting for? Who are we waiting for? Me, you what? What do you need? What do you need from me? This place, you can't want me here for this long, But I just think like how many times was Paul in a situation where he learned the secret of living in every situation? He learned the secret of life. He, he, he saying he learned the secret of life that no matter what situation you are thrown in no matter what's in front of you. Hardship or just plenty. A life full of abundance. You can do all of it. Get through any of it with Christ. If you have Christ at the center, I can do everything through Christ who strengthens me. And I think that's meant for the hard times, right? That's meant more for the hard times.'cause he was in a hard space here. he was in prison here. And he is not worried and he is not overcome by fear and he is not anxious. And he thanks God for everything. He's telling them, in chapter four verse six, tell God what you need and thank him for all he's done. Man, philippians is a great, it's a great book. I'm so ridiculous. I was just like. I wanna go to Matthew or John or something that's just gonna make me feel happy and loved. But I needed the hard lesson that this book brought at this time. And sometimes we need that, God gently speaks to us through it. He really does. So I encourage you guys. Go get your hands on a Bible and start reading and communicating with him so you can start changing the way you think about things and some of your thought patterns that aren't serving you well. All right. Go listen to some Christian music and leave some kind of a note for me somehow. If there's a song that I need to hear, I wanna know about it. If there's a song that you love, I wanna know about it, I actually wanna go listen to it myself. So please reach out, um, DM me, and I'll be talking to you guys soon. Thanks so much for listening. All right. Bye.