The Gospel In The Game Sports Podcast
Conversation and stories about real athletes and the journey thru sport, faith and life.
Connecting athletes, sports families and the church. Build bridges and telling real stories to help repair, build and grow people.
Hosts Dan Dromarsky and Dave Dawson
The Gospel In The Game Sports Podcast
Jordan Cornfield - Be Still: Lessons from Lacrosse, Life and Loss.
This thoughtful conversation about balancing faith, family, and professional athletics will leave you encouraged.
As a former NLL player who participated in two expansion teams (Edmonton Rush and Panther City Lacrosse Club), Jordan brings unique perspective on navigating the demanding weekend schedule of professional lacrosse while maintaining spiritual disciplines. "When you play a Saturday game, you're not making it back for church," he explains, highlighting how online services became a lifeline during busy seasons long before the pandemic made them common.
The father of two daughters shares honestly about leadership challenges across multiple spheres - from managing an industrial rigging company to helping the historic Miners Lacrosse Club secure three consecutive national championships. Throughout these experiences, Jordan discovered the power of presence: "I don't sit at my desk and point and dictate... I try to get involved as much as I can."
Perhaps most powerfully, Jordan opens up about supporting friends and family through cancer diagnoses and loss, including fellow lacrosse player Aaron Bold, whose wife passed away in 2019. These difficult seasons revealed the importance of his guiding verse, Proverbs 11:2: "When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes righteousness."
What advice would Jordan give his 12-year-old self? "Stay true to yourself." For young athletes navigating faith and sport today? "Pray constantly and stay in your devotionals." Simple words that have carried him through championship victories, professional setbacks, family challenges, and everything between.
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jordan do you sweat when you eat?
Speaker 3:only when I eat, uh, real hot stuff, and I love it. So, uh, the more hot stuff I eat, the more I sweat and, uh, I try to, uh try to get a sweat on in every meal, I guess.
Speaker 1:What's the hottest food you've consumed recently?
Speaker 3:It wasn't recently, but hands down. We were in Mexico for my brother's wedding and I thought I would show how I could handle the hot food and there was a pepper that they brought out and everyone said don't eat this thing.
Speaker 3:And sure enough, I ate it and tasted like know, tasted like a green pepper at first, and then it just hit me. I ended up having to take my shirt off in the restaurant and was leaking and they were bringing me rice and milk and you name it. It was, it was. It wasn't a great. It wasn't a great moment for me. That's for sure, Okay.
Speaker 2:So like when that actually happens, does the milk or bread or whatever does it actually help? Yes, it does it?
Speaker 3:does Everyone? Well, not everyone. But you always hear people drinking water and that's the worst thing you can do. But the milk, the rice, the bread, it all helps. It takes the sting away, we'll say.
Speaker 1:The irony that any other restaurant you ride, you see somebody take your shirt off. You're like, okay, that's weird, but in that context people are probably just comfortable with it. Oh, there's another guy who ate that pepper.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly Down in Mexico. It's less frowned upon.
Speaker 2:I guess we'll say yeah, up here in northern Alberta it's a little bit awkward.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a little different. Wouldn't pull that off here, I don't think. Welcome to the Gospel in the Game sports podcast, where faith and sport collide.
Speaker 1:This is the Gospel in the Game podcast, dave Dawson, here Dan Jomarski. We have Jordan Kornfield joining us, connected to lacrosse, played pro back in the day, part of two lacrosse expansion teams, if I am correct in that. Uh, jordan, how would you describe yourself to anybody listening right now?
Speaker 3:um, I'm a husband, a father of two girls 21 and one that turns 15 tomorrow, so it's an exciting week in our household. Um, I've been married for uh 18 years, uh to my wife, and uh? Um grew up in a christian. Great family, great siblings. I've got two brothers, two younger brothers and a younger sister, all of who play lacrosse. My mom played lacrosse and my uncle and cousins, and you name it. We've all been involved in the sport for a long time. I live in Beaumont.
Speaker 1:Alberta and.
Speaker 3:I manage an industrial rigging company. We'll call it for fun.
Speaker 2:For fun. Not very many people have that hobby on their list Without your shirt.
Speaker 3:Keep the shirt on that one.
Speaker 2:That's right, exactly. So, besides hot food and managing a company, what's the connection still with lacrosse? Anything outside of playing the odd time dabbling with it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I pick up a stick every once in a while to play some Masters lacrosse, but I've been heavily involved with the Miners Lacrosse Club since 2010. I help Jamie Bone with the juniors a little bit, but I'm more primarily involved with the juniors a little bit, but I'm more primarily involved with the senior B minors. You know I keep that kind of team going with all the help that we have involved in that organization. It's been one of the oldest lacrosse organizations in Edmonton, so I'm lucky to be a part of it and we've had some success as of recent and uh looking to kind of continue that. Um. As for the professional level level, I was uh involved with Panther City Lacrosse Club, which was an expansion team in 2021 that was based out of Fort Worth, texas, and uh, we unfortunately folded last year. Um, just, I guess lack of interest down there for the sport. But uh, we had a great group of guys and I learned a ton from Bob Hamley and Tracy Kaluski and Kyle Goundry and Steve Toll working with them. All Hall of Famers.
Speaker 1:And also part of the Edmonton Rush back in the day when there was a team.
Speaker 3:I think the inaugural year you played there, right, yeah, I played with the Rush, the first year 1-15 record, so it wasn't uh too great of a year for us on the floor, but uh, I also worked in the office as well and sold tickets and kind of did whatever was needed to be done. So part of two expansion teams like you. Like you mentioned, dave and what is?
Speaker 1:what does faith look like in the lacrosse community? I've started to really dabble myself into lacrosse for the last couple of years. That's how you and I reconnected again and you know I've seen components of it and obviously in football, baseball, pretty widespread hockey you hear a little bit of it here or there and Dan's obviously really well connected on the hockey ministry side. But what does faith look like in lacrosse community?
Speaker 3:community. I would say it's not. It's not extremely prevalent. You know, at the forefront of everyone's conversations. You know what I try to do is.
Speaker 3:I'm not, you know, sitting there beating everybody with the Bible, but you know I try to just, you know, shine God's light through me when I'm, you know, in discussions and having one-on-ones with guys and you know, getting to know, and we've had kind of over the past few years we've had quite a few tragedies hit pretty close to home, you know, with sickness and car accidents and you name it with within lacrosse.
Speaker 3:So there's a great opportunity to, you know, reach out and, you know, discuss in those situations. But I wouldn't say that it's. I mean, you see it in football when you know they say a prayer before they go out on the floor every game. I wouldn't say it's like that in the dressing room, but I think that it's obviously. You know people know kind of who has a faith background and you know when they have questions, you know they can come to you and ask and I know I've kind of reached out to a few guys on my team that you know I've had and have a tough go and I've been able to share the word with them.
Speaker 2:And it's been nice. I love that example, that almost that pastoral care idea, where tragedy happens but where the world sees it as a tragedy and we also see it as a tragedy but we also see it as an opportunity to show the love of Christ, even through grief and loss, but also for joy. Talk about a little bit about some of the experiences that maybe the sport has brought you in regards to joy, whether it's within your faith or within your life. What are some of the ups that you've experienced through lacrosse?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, some of the on-floor stuff has been exciting In 2016, 17 and 18, the Miners we won three consecutive national championships, so that was an exciting on-floor moment. With my faith in lacrosse, I think that I've been been lucky where I've really gotten to share it with with people when they're, when they're searching or in there, you know, in. You know downtimes like we discussed and connected with a few good brothers in faith. You know, obviously Aaron bold is one of them, dave, I know you, you know him and you know, and so I get to spend some time with him and get to, you know, just discuss life. And you know he's had some tragedy in his life His wife passed away in 2019.
Speaker 3:So you know we were able to you know, to be there for each other in those situations. So, as much as I would say those are tragic situations that we've had to go through, it's you know it's nice to be able to lean on God's Word and our faith in order to get through those times.
Speaker 1:Jordan, anybody who knows you and I don't know you that well, but I've seen you around the rinks enough and around people to know there's a man of joy. When I look at you, I can see the joy of the Holy Spirit in you and it's evident, anybody who sees you sees that joy of the Holy Spirit. And I want to ask you about you know that that aspect of being held to that standard in some of those groups, and I wouldn't want to say challenges that it faces, because it's not a challenge, it's a privilege. But what? What has that been like? The opportunity to be the guy of you know no moral upstanding righteousness, so to speak, but just be the guy that. Hey, you know what, if I have a tough time, jordan's there right, like to to be that. How do you embrace that role of just being that guy that people gravitate to for for care, for hospitality and just a word of encouragement it's, um, you know it's something that's kind of always been a part of my life.
Speaker 3:I've been, I guess, blessed with leadership roles my whole life, whether it was playing hockey or playing lacrosse. You know I've been involved with multiple businesses and you know managing an industrial rigging company and you know managing a lacrosse team. You know company and then you know managing a lacrosse team. You know I always find that that you have to lead by example. You know you want to, you want to try to. You know just be there with the guys and whether that's, you know, working on the tracks or you know, lending a hand at the job site, you know it makes them see you as you know. As you know it makes them see you, as you know, as you know, approachable and as part of the team. Right like I, I don't sit at my desk and point, and you know, dictate and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:I try to get involved as much as I can and that's involved with lacrosse or with my family or with, uh, you know work, um, and you know I just always try to to be there for people and sometimes it's harder than than others. Right like um, you know, when you have a something tough situation and sometimes it's harder than than others, right, like you know, when you have a something tough situation happen at work, it's you know sometimes I have to close my door because you know there's, you know it's just I need to take some time for myself. But you know, other than that, I really try to have an open door policy and just be there for to be an ear, to listen or to, you know, to discuss things, and guys bring the challenges to me and you know, whatever, whatever hat I'm wearing that day, whether it's lacrosse or work or family, you name it.
Speaker 2:So all these different hats that you're wearing, whether it's a sport, whether it's family, whether it's work, and the different dynamics. For someone who's not necessarily familiar with lacrosse, talk to me a little bit about how um is it in a? Is it a sport that conflicts with with, you know, having an opportunity to go to church? Uh, when you were playing, was it difficult finding fellowship? Uh, was it hard on on your family? Was there a lot of travel involved? What does that? What does a pro level lacrosse schedule look like and how does that impact?
Speaker 3:you? That's a good question, Dan. It certainly was tough at the pro level. At the minor level it's not so bad, because lacrosse typically isn't on the weekends, unless there's a minor lacrosse tournament.
Speaker 3:But at the pro level it is very difficult because you only play on the weekends. So you're playing a game on a Friday, a Saturday or a Sunday and you're always flying in, whether it's a home game or away game, right? So you know, it's a part-time league and guys travel, so very few guys actually live in the markets where they play, unless, obviously, you're playing in a Toronto market or Vancouver, you know. So it makes it difficult. When you play a Saturday game, you're not making it back for church and, um, you know, sometimes it's uh, you know, it becomes very difficult because if you're on the road for, you know, 16, 17 weeks in a row, you might be missing church every week.
Speaker 3:So, um, I mean, you know, I guess the the one benefit that covid brought us was it brought us online church. You know that it became very prevalent in almost every. Every church has an online presence that you're able to watch. So, you know, I've been able to watch a lot of online services, whether it's, you know, in an airport or on a plane or just wherever, you know, in a hotel room. So I tried to do that. But you do miss the community of going to church and spending with with people and with your family, and being there with your, your family and your kids.
Speaker 2:So so in your experience, how was that fellowship integrating yourself back into into fellowship? You're away a lot and stuff. Do you feel like a stranger? How do you have that? Do you have an inner battle on okay, am I going to go there and be welcomed? What was your experience with that?
Speaker 3:No, I mean, yeah, I never felt like that. Like you know, I've been lucky that the churches that I've gone through through my life, you know I could walk back into the church I went through for my entire youth and I'd be greeted with, you know, hugs and handshakes and smiles. So it was never. It was never like that, um, and it's just a joy I got to. Really, one thing it did bring to me was I appreciated being there in person so much more, um, when you actually go and when you actually get to walk through the doors to a brick and mortar building and and, uh and kind of, you know, just be there with the rest of the congregation.
Speaker 1:Jordan, in our last episode we had, uh, and kind of you know, just be there with the rest of the congregation. Jordan, in our last episode we had an individual on and talked a lot about, you know how, the difficulties of COVID and et cetera, and we haven't really talked a lot about that a lot in life anymore. It feels like now that everyone's back to life, it's almost one of those things that isn't the back of the mind and isn't really in the forefront anymore. How did situations like that redefine your faith, bring you closer to the Lord, give you a fresh perspective, or did it?
Speaker 3:I think it did it really. You know, for me personally, I've always been a guy that's, you know, kind of as we kind of already discussed I had a million things going on. My plate was always very full, especially in the summers when I'm, you know, coaching my daughter, you know lacrosse, three or four times a week and then helping the minors when I go there and trying to work, and then sometimes the pro season overlapped with that. So I was a very busy guy and I always had a lot on my plate and it gave me a kind of a moment of reset where we kind of just stopped everything.
Speaker 3:Really, you know, um, you know, we did, we, there was no outside activities going on and we uh had a chance to, um, you know, really reset and and kind of refocus on what we we felt was important. And I made some changes in my life that, uh, you know, came out of that where, um, you know, I had a tough time saying no to things before I, you know, someone asked me to do something. I'd be, yeah, I'll be there, you know, and, and you know when, then something has to pay the price right.
Speaker 3:When you say yes to something, something else pays the price. And so, you know, that reset that we kind of had during those kind of shutdown, that shutdown summer, it really helped me kind of redefine the direction I wanted to go with with my life and with my family, and so it it was actually a nice break and reset for me. I'd say not that I ever want to do that again, but it was a horrible time. But yeah, it was. You know I got to take some good out of it.
Speaker 2:So you know what? It's so funny that you phrased it that way, because I was thinking like not that anyone would ever want to go through that again, like yeah, who sits back and goes you know what? I kind of want to go shopping right now. You know what I'm going to bring? I'm going to bring like a, like a scuba mask with. When you think back to some of the stuff that we did during those times, you're like what in the world are we?
Speaker 3:doing.
Speaker 2:How does this make any sense? Yeah, my kids were just talking about the other day. They're like, you remember when we had church at home and we had communion at home and stuff like that. It's like, thinking back on it, that was kind of weird, like, yeah, but you know what? You know what? You go back, go back in time. People were doing it all the time, weren't they?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah absolutely okay, so let's go from player to parent, uh, to family life. What's it like playing pro sport and coming back into the reality of of your, your walls, and your bubble goes so much smaller to focus on your family. What are some of the things that God taught you on the importance of of parenting outside of being a player a lacrosse player?
Speaker 3:I'd say the the biggest thing I took out of it that kind of God spoke to me was just be still, you know, and I mean it's it is difficult to do these days, you know, with everything going on. But I think I definitely heard him kind of say you know, jordan, you need to slow down a little bit and you need to really focus on what's important in life and you know I was, I was appreciative of that and really got to kind of share that message with my wife and my kids, and yeah, still still going quite a bit, and so I you know maybe there's still a little bit more for me to learn there, but that was, that was the primary thing that I definitely got out of that.
Speaker 1:Jordan, as we were praying before this interview, the Lord gave me the word for you of obedience. So what does obedience look like in your life, maybe going back to when you played in the nll, and or even now, when your walk as a business owner, as a father, as a husband, in your faith? What does that look like to you?
Speaker 3:well, you know, when you're someone that's uh you know I, I would say you know in the the spotlight a little bit, and I'm not saying the the spotlight, the lacrosse players or lacrosse people are. You know in the spotlight. You know, whether it be at work or whether it be you know at home, and I mean even you know with my two daughters here you know I have to, I have to be obedient to the word of God, because you know people are looking at you, the eyes are always on you. You know there's no-transcript and you know you know being known as a man of faith.
Speaker 3:You know it's you kind of have to. You have to walk the walk right and be obedient in that in that sense.
Speaker 2:So let's talk strategies. Young athletes listening to this podcast, involved in a sport, struggling with being human, what, what are some things that you could have as resources in your toolbox in order to help you keep on the path. I would say pray, just you know, pray, constantly, pray um.
Speaker 3:You know, stay, uh, stay in your devotionals, um, you know in your bible, um, but uh, I know that, uh, whenever I'm I'm struggling or I'm, you know, having a hard time, I pray, I take that time and, kind of, you know, take some time to myself and just find some time with God.
Speaker 1:Jordan, what you know. You talk with your daughters and I. What do you want them to know? Dad, as when they see dad and they you know, when they think of them and as a man of god well, I've, uh, I was truly blessed with really great parents.
Speaker 3:Um, I grew up in, um, you know, in an obviously religious family and, uh, you know we it was always at the forefront in everything we did right, and so that's kind of the the same example that I want to set for my girls. You know, and you know be, you know faithful, and you know just always putting God at the forefront of everything we do, and I think that's that's very important and you know, we try to make that a constant here in our house.
Speaker 2:Um, someone needs some advice and, uh, they need to learn. Hear from you. Uh, what? What's been the toughest moment of your walk thus far?
Speaker 3:the questions aren't getting easier. Hey, yeah, oh, you just wait. Yeah, um, you know I I would have to probably go back to um. Well, there's two situations that come to mind, um. Number one is uh, is um aaron bold when he was uh, in in when, you know, kind of knew that Michelle was was nearing the end and that there wasn't any cure for her? Um, you know it was, uh, it was. That was a really really tough one, um to understand. Um, and you know I, really I know that Aaron was a believer then and he's, he's very, you know, vocal about it now on social media and then just in life. Um, and so, uh, you know that was that was a tough one, um, and you know I, we were reaching out and I was praying for him lots and and just talking to him about just how, how he handles a situation like that. Um, and it was, it was tough, so, uh, but you know we prayed and he got through it and he's actually, he's actually getting married again this year. So, um, yeah, so about six years later. So it's uh, he, god blessed him and, um, you know he's a man of faith and I'm excited for him. I can't his wedding's in Italy, so I can't make it. But uh, um, you know I I'm so happy for him. So that was one um.
Speaker 3:Another one that we're actually our family's kind of currently going through right now is my uncle. My uncle has cancer. That is not going well. So as a family we're really struggling with that and you know we're trying to just support my uncle and his family and be there for our family as well. We're pretty close. We're a really close family. We meet at Wendy's after church every Sunday. So it's something that's really weighing on us heavy and we're trying to just follow God's word and follow his direction on how we handle the situation best.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll take some time to pray for you at the end of the show in a few minutes here. Jordan, really appreciate you opening up about that and really appreciate your transparency, and it's just great to hear the joy and the faith in your voice and the years that I've known you living and walking that out. So for the meantime, we're going to turn our attention to one of the most highly requested segments on our podcast. It's the rapid fire segment. We're going to throw some ridiculously difficult questions your way and we hope you're ready for it. Are you ready to go? Well, we'll give her a try.
Speaker 1:In your peak of your athletic performance. How much could you bench? 320.
Speaker 2:Okay, you got to travel from Edmonton to Calgary, which is about 200 miles, 300 kilometers, but you have to do it riding on an animal that's not a horse or a donkey. What would it be? Elephant?
Speaker 1:You're going through the drive-thru and you got to order. You know you're going to order, pick up a burger really, really quick and they don't give you ingredients. You got to come up with your own ingredients to customize it. You have four. What are you putting on?
Speaker 3:there. Does the burger count as one, like the actual patty?
Speaker 1:Do I have to say that? Yeah, the patty is considered part of the burger, so you got bun meat, which are not on the list. You have four ingredients to put on, okay.
Speaker 3:Cheese, onion, lettuce, ketchup.
Speaker 2:You get to have breakfast tomorrow with four people from history. One of them is dave dawson, the other one is you. Who are your other two guests?
Speaker 3:um, oh, man, that's, uh, that's a tough one. Uh, you know what I'd have to say? Uh, my grandfather who passed, um, sorry, two, two guests.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so one other person besides your grandfather.
Speaker 3:Dead or alive.
Speaker 2:Yep Dead or alive.
Speaker 3:Oh man, that's a tough one Uh, you know what I'm actually going to say my grandmother as well, my, my grandmother and my grandfather. I think that they say my grandmother as well, my, my grandmother and my grandfather. I think that they, uh, you know, they're not superstars, but they're superstars to me, so they're both passive.
Speaker 1:That'll be special breakfast for me. I get to hear all that, the knowledge. That's gonna be great, jordan. What was your aha moment in the nll when, when you were like, wow, like either was a big goal, you scored, or I didn't have many.
Speaker 3:I was a bubble player, so I wasn't a highly touted player, but when, in 2008 playoffs, I scored the go ahead goal versus Calgary and that place was absolutely rocking we were in is when I was playing for Colorado, we were in Denver. It was a sold out arena. I've never heard anything like that. So that was, that was definitely my moment. Like that. So, um, that was that was definitely, uh, my moment.
Speaker 2:You got to go back in time to your 12 year old self. Look them straight in the eyes. What's the best piece of advice you give them?
Speaker 1:Stay true to yourself. Is there, um, is there a Bible verse, jordan, that uh, has really come alive for you recently? Um then, something you can lean on, or you would share with your girls, or or something that you'd go back to daily?
Speaker 3:I would say it's something that came alive for me, but this is one that's always been one of my favorites and it's kind of how I live my life, proverbs 11, two. When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes righteousness. That's something that's always kind of stuck with me and, yeah, that is a great, great surprise me, based on the person that I know, jordan is.
Speaker 2:That is a great verse. Well, we have two things that we have as criteria for coming on the show. One is you get to come back. That's the first one Update us on what the Lord is doing in your life, and the second one is we get to pray for you. So let's take a minute and pray for you.
Speaker 3:Awesome. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Heavenly Father, we thank you so much for Jordan. We just pray that you would watch over him and that you would bless him and his family, and with his family and his kids. And, lord, we just thank you so much for the walk that you've given him to do with you and thank you that you've given him such a testimony in order to have in sport and with his family. And, lord, we just pray that you'd be with him right now and you'd be with him with his extended family. And, lord, we just pray for opportunities with his family who's going through cancer. And, lord, we just pray that you would allow him to show the love of Christ, not only to those that are watching Lord, but to those who are going to hear the word of testimony of how much of an impact you've had on his life. And, lord, we just pray that you would use him and bless him for your glory, your honor and your praise. In Jesus' name, we pray, amen.
Speaker 3:Amen Thank you.
Speaker 1:You know what's funny? I met Jordan years ago when I was working for a nonprofit organization. He came in and he was doing some lacrosse drills with some of my kids and then I ran into him a couple of years later, didn't remember him it was through a mutual friend and I looked at him and I go, took me about three months to go where do I know you from, until I finally just approached him and said Jordan, by chance, do you know this guy? And you came into this. He goes yeah, that was me and we laughed about it. And then, obviously, we've been keeping in touch for quite a while, but just being close to the lacrosse community as I am with my career, getting to watch Jordan live as a man of faith, live as a man of joy, watching the way people respond and look at him, it's really cool and I love the authenticity of the story.
Speaker 2:You know it's really neat to hearing a bunch of his story and seeing who he is and and reading about him. You, you kind of have that how God does that. You, you see that where you're like.
Speaker 2:I think we've crossed paths somewhere, where or you hear, or you've heard about him, or seeing like even how, or you've heard about him or seen like even what you just said, and where it's like God does that often, doesn't he? Whether it's through sport or athletics or just people All of a sudden you know people, who know people, but then all of a sudden it's like, wow, okay, well, here's another believer, here's someone who also has faith in God, and God's using him as a puzzle piece as well, and it's going to be a fantastic picture when we see it.
Speaker 1:That's why I think it's so important to share the stuff on social media, because you never know who's listening. You might go. I was in Colorado. I was at that game in 2008. Like, I was one of the 20,000 people in attendance. I remember that moment right. You never know how these things are going to connect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even with the idea of a sport like lacrosse, you know, if you know a lacrosse player or someone who's played it or enjoys watching or something like that, send this interview. What a fantastic guy behind the lacrosse, behind the sport. And I think that's one of the things that we love doing these interviews, because God allows us to kind of see behind the life of the athlete, where so many people just see the jersey, they see the team, they see the event, they see the moment, but to get to hear just a little bit of the heart of the person behind it, it's so special.
Speaker 1:And the cool thing for me, too is I think that obviously, Jordan is now almost 20 years from his NLL playing career. You know the ability and the excitement to get on and share his faith is the part that I get excited about I know you do too where it doesn't really matter if they're a pro athlete or a minor athlete everybody has something they want to share, and Jordan was so excited to be to talk about the Lord and what he's doing in his life, and so that was cool for me to be able to offer that up and say, hey, here's a platform we want to come on and talk about the Lord in sports, and he was super jacked, so yeah, yeah, exciting.
Speaker 2:And you know what's exciting too to our listeners. And we're hearing from athletes where some people, someone listens to an episode and they suggest someone or they say, hey, listen, here's someone that you got, that maybe you, that we've had too is all of a sudden people all of a sudden relate to that, say you know what this is like, similar to my story. Share with us those testimonies too, if something's happened with him. We heard about Jordan, the second that he mentioned, that he had a family member who right now is like going through cancer treatment and how difficult and hard that is. You could just see, you just feel his heart, even in his voice, and it just made me just think of just just recent people, my own life and I was just like, wow, you know what this is. Uh, it's amazing just how god is just orchestrating such a great work behind so many of these people, and this is why we need eternity, dave, there's not enough time for interviews it's true, and he talked a little bit about covid and how isolated people felt.
Speaker 1:That's the value of community, and sharing these great interviews is to let you know that you're not alone. If you're in that situation, there's someone out there who's going through your story, who's walking the same journey as you. So, yeah, send us a message If there's any word of encouragement you heard something that touched you, or a guest you want to have, you've maybe heard about that you'd love to hear from, or any type of thing at all. Stay connected with us and you can also download us anywhere podcasts are found, and follow us on social media, twitter and Instagram.
