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Brain Rot & the Art of Not Giving a Duck
Common Sense Gurl and Noah dive into a free-wheeling conversation about opinions, social media influence, and finding peace in a world full of noise.
• Discussion of why beloved cartoon character Peppy Le Pew was cancelled
• Exploration of Ryan Holiday's Daily Stoic wisdom on how opinions affect our perspective
• Reflection on how social media amplifies opinions and impacts mental health
• Conversation about neural pathways and choosing how we process information
• Personal values of dependability and responsibility, and the struggle with self-care
• Debate about education reform and the need for higher teacher wages
• Ranking happiness, money, freedom and love in order of importance
• Reading from Mark Nepo's "The Awakening" about the addictive nature of caretaking
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Speaker 2:I am commissary and I'm noah, how are you doing today? Not like completely disregarding that we just had a 50 minute conversation yeah, just I mean, what's 50 minutes, what mean? What's what's 45, what's 50 minutes, what's an hour and 15 time? It's relative, yeah, and it's cyclical in nature, which is odd, yeah, so why are? You making a 50 minutes of hog posh wow, before a minute's up, we've already got on the subject of time.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, um I don't know why he's, but he is it's the mental clock, it's just that's always running your mental clock.
Speaker 2:Bless it, baby my clock is mental I can't I can't knock, knock.
Speaker 2:Who's there? Nobody, okay. Can I bring up a point? Why did we cancel peppy lepew? Bring up a point? Why did we cancel peppy lepew? I don't know. I loved that dude man. He got like okay. So there was this really funny image I saw like I was. So there was this movie with brendan frazier and it was looney tunes back in action and it was like the real life version of the looney tunes and I looked it up on imdb because I have it on dvd and I like pulled it out of like my attic as opposed to moving my roommate shit into where it needs to be. I'm pulling out dvds of like old movies I used to watch, um, and it was looney Tunes back in action and like Brendan Fraser is the main character and um so it was so funny because he has like a guest role in it.
Speaker 2:And then it sent me on this rabbit trail of like why'd we cancel Pepe Le Pew? And then it was funny because I looked up Pepe Le Pew on Google at work and there was a in memoriam of Pepe Le Pew where it said 1942 to 2021 or some shit and it was like something that should be put on a tombstone. And then it said like well, now we. And it was like one of his catchphrases and I was like, oh my God, they really did a cartoon drawn character that dirty, like they killed that, like poor little skunk who was just trying to find love.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But he probably was creepy, if we think about it.
Speaker 1:But they all, are they all are. Like.
Speaker 2:I miss Peppy Elmer, elmer Creepy, elmer's weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's somebody's stalker or a serial killer Well, Bugs Bunny's stalker. Or a serial killer. Well, yeah, bunnies, I mean who the hell is carrying a gun, that I mean that all the time.
Speaker 2:And now and Bugs Bunny is the only one that knows how to evade him he wouldn't get that mad if he didn't have, like, a successful kill ratio.
Speaker 1:so like bugs bunny being the one that just can like brush him off his shoulder and be like missed motherfucker, like little fat dude. So I'm like how are you running after this damn?
Speaker 2:rabbit. Most rabbits aren't bugs. No, it's kind of like fantastic mr fox, which is in my top five of all time movies.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:I find it along the way my top five is more of like a mental recalibration Interesting. All right, should I start?
Speaker 1:Yes, you can put a little wisdom on the life.
Speaker 2:All right. So today is from the Daily Stoic by, obviously, the legendary Ryan Holiday. He's been around a while, it being Ryan Holiday.
Speaker 2:April 18th, yep. Opinions are like what is bad luck Opinion? What are conflict, dispute, blame, accusation, irreverence and frivolity. They are all opinions, and more than that. They are opinions that lie outside of our own reasoned choice, presented as if they were good or evil. Let a person shift their opinion only to what belongs in the field of their own choice and I guarantee that person will have peace of mind, whatever is happening around them. A pick, a picket, uh oh you're just going to kill us.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, he said it to me yesterday on the phone Apicatus Apicatetus Discourses.
Speaker 2:So often to the point. I think it's just a bit at this point in my mind, but to everyone else it's like he's dumb. Okay, so, ryan Holiday, opinions, everyone's got one. Think about all the opinions you have about whether today's weather is convenient, about what liberals and conservatives believe, about whether so-and-so's remarks is rude or not, about whether you're successful or not, and on and on. We're constantly looking at the world around us and putting our opinion on top of it, and our opinion is often shaped by dogma, religious or cultural entitlements, expectations and, in some cases, ignorance. No wonder we feel upset and angry so often. But what if we let these opinions go? Let's try weeding out, cutting or knocking out them out of our lives that simply are Not good or bad, not colored with opinion or judgment, just are. So that's cool, done and scene. Did I get through it? Did anybody hear that?
Speaker 1:No, no. But if only we all felt that Like really, like mentally, physically, just believe that Like it's true. But think about it. You do sometimes take not just you in particular, but just people in general. Every blue moon. There's that one opinion that just kind of it's not that it's the end of the world, but for some reason it means a lot to us.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or bothers us. It's like why do they think that way about me?
Speaker 2:I think to me um, there's this weird perspective where everybody has opinions. They're like assholes.
Speaker 2:There's that thing and that, that when we were talking about the reading that we were going to do, we said that joke is kind of a riff, but it's more of like. I think a lot of stuff is like centralized and based around ego to where it's like why do people think that opinion matters? Like there's so many opinions and there's so many people saying words and there's so many people just shouting it from the rooftops as loud as possible to where it drowns out the noise of the street traffic below. So collectively, if we're all on the rooftop, can we just start yelling at each other? So, collectively, if we're all on the rooftop, can we just start yelling at each other. Nobody gives a fuck what you have to say.
Speaker 1:Go enjoy your night that'd be nice and it'd be nice to believe that mentally, as people but in this society that's not how it works and that's why we have so many people, not just kids, well, fuck this society.
Speaker 2:What if I want to live that way?
Speaker 1:that are. They're killing themselves because of someone's opinion that's true which is it's really sad, like I don't know why billy Bob's opinion matters and they got four fucking toes and three.
Speaker 1:On the other hand, like I don't know why your opinion should matter to me. Who is a full body, has all my toes, no extra ligaments or anything, but it sometimes just do. And those opinions, especially when these kids and adults are on social media and they're getting ragged on constantly by people with opinions, all these opinions, and they feel shitty about themselves and then they're just like, well, I must be a shitty person. No, you're not a shitty person, because that motherfucker said they are one out of a billion people, like very small percentage, but you're giving them so much space in your life.
Speaker 2:If only I don't like.
Speaker 1:It's the way our world runs.
Speaker 2:Space in life is funny Because time and space. We started this podcast talking about time. Time and space is where we exist, right? So to quintessentially think that it's boiled down to just like, oh, they're living rent-free in your head. No, we choose. Like how much percentage of our brain do we access?
Speaker 2:every day 14%, something like ridiculously small. We choose the neural pathways we want to open up and a lot of people choose the easiest route, the easiest route. And then that's why it's difficult to have a conversation with somebody that did choose the easiest route that day, as opposed to understanding the struggle in somebody's eyes, because you don't even have to have a conversation with the person that didn't choose the easiest route, because you can already see it in their face. And then that's when productive conversation happens, I think, faith. And then that's when productive conversation happens, um, I think Because opinions are like assholes and everybody's got one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, allegedly, unless yours got sewed up.
Speaker 2:Unless you got hemorrhoids or some dumb shit, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, you better take care of the hemorrhoids. Uh yeah, I don't know. Well, you better take care of the hemorrhoids, oh yeah. I don't have that, I just said it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Am I going off topic again? Did I not answer the?
Speaker 1:question. No, you're still there, you're still on topic.
Speaker 2:Okay, because everybody audience listeners.
Speaker 1:Anna went on like a whole tyrant he do and he just lies into so effortlessly.
Speaker 2:And I'll be holding up all my air traffic controllers up here and he just I'm really trying and I think I did well with that because, like, consciously, as I go on these rambles, it's funny because, like, as I put all those words together, like back to back, to back in what I was just saying, I sit there and think, okay, this is going somewhere, like, I see this, like making a sentence that's functional and like and like it's cool because I love practicing that, like in this environment with you, because it's a very cool experience, even though I set up all this shit. Hold on, no, let me get on my own dick for a second he plugs in a few mics.
Speaker 1:Good for you.
Speaker 2:Look at the room.
Speaker 1:Okay, the room has nothing to do with Ambience, because the room was going to be set up anyways.
Speaker 2:The vibri-fication. The vibri-fication.
Speaker 1:The vibri-fication, not the feng shui.
Speaker 2:Let's talk to Miriam Webster about making a new feng shui and it being vibrification.
Speaker 1:Vibrification For some reason that goes so easy it works.
Speaker 2:Vibrification, vibrification, oh, it could be vibration. And also just oh, that vibe is dope bro. Oh, yeah, dude, it vibe is dope bro. How'd you miss that 70s show? Yeah, dude, it's the vibraphication dog.
Speaker 1:That 70s show.
Speaker 2:Like when they're all smoking in the circle and the camera's whipping around. Damn, vibraphication is a fucking cool word, man Shit.
Speaker 1:I wonder, what does it mean?
Speaker 2:You know, like when the feng shui is just like a vibe. Ah Okay, I think we have a question.
Speaker 1:Nah, it's not a question, it's like a fill in the blank. We have a caller, we have a caller.
Speaker 2:It's like a fill in the blank. We have a caller.
Speaker 1:We have a caller, Caller one.
Speaker 2:are you there, Hi this is Pisa and this is Domino's and you said you wanted some.
Speaker 1:Like why are you calling me like that? So this is a fill in blank. So at your, your funeral, how do you hope to be described?
Speaker 2:I guess, that's not in the blank the way I just said it uh dependable mother ducker, get out of my head.
Speaker 1:That was my exact word.
Speaker 2:Yes, no way shoot, we didn't even. I had a whole joke word.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you had a whole another word. You were sticking with it.
Speaker 2:You were like, oh, we're going there I wanted to be funny and then you said it and I was just in it.
Speaker 1:No, I can change mine no, no, no, you got it because your other word might not be the greatest, so we're just gonna stick with it do you want me to go on an explanation while you think about what your word wants to be? Yes, there we go, Responsible. Thank you, little co-baby producer.
Speaker 2:Dependable and responsible. That's phenomenal. Dependable, responsible, phenomenal. I sound like Eminem you kind of do. I don't know why. He just put big words together and talked about awful things and wait, he's one of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1:fuck out of here, walk out the door you remember how we talked about you going on a tangent. There we go yeah, that was.
Speaker 2:That was the. That was almost short people.
Speaker 1:And then he just made you mad Short people.
Speaker 2:Because they're not me.
Speaker 1:It didn't take long.
Speaker 2:But Eminem is short.
Speaker 1:You took your nose there. No, he really is short.
Speaker 2:I know that's an awfully hot coffee pot, Motherfucker shut the fuck up you short ass.
Speaker 1:He's taller than Lil Wayne. I mean, he's taller than Lil Wayne. I respect Lil Wayne so much more Lil Wayne's only four foot two.
Speaker 2:Lil Wayne only just has bad aim.
Speaker 1:Oh, he said bad aim and there was a couple of ways we could have won with it.
Speaker 2:Wait. Okay, so I was dependable and you were responsible. How do you miss that close? No, okay. Yeah, I just like as a man and as in the therapy I've been having you switching gears.
Speaker 2:What's that thing on the train I've been having you switching gears. What's that thing on the train track that people had to pull to like shift the tracks? That was what I just did in my head. Mentally, I do want to be like a dependable person and, like in the day and age where stuff is so easy all the time to not be.
Speaker 1:You're dependable now all the time to not be. You don't think?
Speaker 2:you're dependable now, um, I think I lose the dependability on myself in giving the dependability to other people, to where, when I lay down at night, I might feel as if I kind of let myself go to the wayside.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Does that make any sense? Yes, possibly.
Speaker 1:I hope the people on the other side of the mic feels like it made sense.
Speaker 2:No other side of the mic. Let me clarify Just when you give so much to where yourself might have felt neglected and that feeling of emptiness that you didn't water yourself as much as you should have better. Yeah, okay, and you were responsible. So why did you say responsible?
Speaker 1:well, I mean, I probably. So I feel like I'm pretty um dependable, loyal, responsible, all at the same time, all the time. I don't really have a moment where because I think it's kind of cool that you're a normal 25 year old, just like I think our baby co-producer is a normal 21 year, like y'all get to literally be yeah, she's a little weird I'm about to roast.
Speaker 1:No, I'm kidding but y'all get to not have all these extra worries. I feel like when I was y'all's age, I had all these extra worries and and honestly I I don't even want to say I had extra worries, but I've always felt I had to be dependable, responsible, just constantly, and I don't know if others see that Like, if something goes awry, who do you call?
Speaker 2:Awry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's kind of like Not array Hold on Pronunciation. No, we know how to spell the word, so it matters.
Speaker 2:Array Awry.
Speaker 1:It's awry.
Speaker 2:Where are you from? No, it ties into what we were talking about about the shouting on the rooftop and I think us growing up in that, like everybody shouting on the rooftop all the time. You did not grow up that way, like with it being in your pocket all the time. I mean so like growing up that way with everybody shouting on the rooftop. Sometimes you just want to buy some land in Oklahoma and just fucking not hear people shout and maybe walk outside look up and see the stars.
Speaker 1:That'd be really nice. They like to have tornado cells.
Speaker 2:I don't care, I'm in and they have a whole bunch of flies. We have tornadoes here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have a whole bunch of flies. We have tornadoes here. They have a whole bunch of mother ducking flies. I'm like what is? Have you ever been to Oklahoma?
Speaker 2:No, but I'm so down to buy some land there. Good, okay, I'm not ever coming to see you.
Speaker 1:Because I'd be like what in the Samuel L Jackson? Why is there flies in the middle of the store At the Walmart?
Speaker 2:Right. What's the next question? We're not talking the store at the Walmart. What's the next question? We're not talking about flies at the Walmart in Oklahoma that we've never been to.
Speaker 1:I actually have been to have you really, is it dry?
Speaker 2:It was either Oklahoma, arizona, or that was a throw in Gatlinburg. I was looking at land there too, never mind. I was looking at land there too, never mind, just what.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I got the Oklahoma and Arizona, how that could potentially be up there. But I'm like Gatlinburg you went. That was a whole nother.
Speaker 2:Well, Appalachian Mountains and it being like haunted all the time and just having a cabin out there, that would be so nice.
Speaker 1:It's pretty haunted here where we're at now.
Speaker 2:Well, like dream location. Like summer, I want to live on the beach, winter, probably a cabin.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And just like a fire running always and I got to chop wood. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1:Right, you're just literally wanting to get from me.
Speaker 2:No, I want to do it like the old people did exactly.
Speaker 2:I'm wrong to hear why I'm not chopping nothing this is not alaska and I'm not going at him tired that's weird, though, because I bring that up and my grandfather, who had his birthday recently, uh, he like when we lived with him for a short period of time with me growing up, he would like I'm not gonna expose him like that, but he would just like it was a wood fire, like uh in pennsylvania, so he would chop the wood and, like he would, he would wake up at like 3 am oh gosh and just start putting the wood he chopped earlier in the day in the wood fire and just he would lay right by it and just stare and I remember being a kid like walking because the staircase was behind and I would just like sit at the top seven, be like what the fuck is he doing?
Speaker 1:he's like enjoying and he's like motherfucker.
Speaker 2:This house needs to be hot. I and I'm doing it for you right now, but you won't understand until you're 25, sitting in a chair that's air conditioned literally, and we live in pennsylvania.
Speaker 1:You can't get you. It's cold, oh my gosh freezing.
Speaker 2:I remember walking to school when that shit was okay. What's the next one?
Speaker 1:sorry he sounded like an old married. I remember you. Remember you gotta walk up the dang on block like no bro. I walked 45 miles, no my, me and my sister.
Speaker 2:We rode the bus like down here they'll cancel snow for a sprinkle in the sky. In Pennsylvania the snow's three feet high and me and my sister are waiting out by the bus stop and my dad hasn't pulled off because he's waiting for the bus to pull up and see if we're safely on it. But we're waiting in the fucking cold and the snow is up to my fucking titty and that, and now I'm just like wait, it's cold. And then we're sitting on the bus and the windows are down because the exhaust doesn't fucking work and there's weird kids that are playing fucking I don't know some song that I don't like and and now I like, and they're throwing shit at other kids and it's like what? It's 20 degrees. Why are you throwing shit?
Speaker 1:This is why he goes to therapy this right here. That whole scenario just got him all fired up.
Speaker 2:Okay, what's the next question? I'm sorry. I loved that, though, because it brought me closer to my sister.
Speaker 1:You gotta have a choice. Y'all had to warm up next to each other.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, she was like. I think that's why she always knew what I was going through all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's like you cold right now. I got you.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're pissed off about what's going on, or not even pissed off. I don off about what's going on, or not even pissed off. I don't think I discovered the pissed off feeling until I was a teen. We're not getting into that right now. What's the next question?
Speaker 1:what family or school rule would you most like? You start this one off, because I'm gonna so, um, our baby co-producer and I were talking about how we think they should bring spankings back into school. I don't think kids should be abused, but there's that one little mother in that classroom of 32 damn students my kid being one of them that needs a little tap. Tap. They going to act a fool. Let me meet you where you at, you act a fool.
Speaker 2:It's not going to happen though at you act. It's not gonna happen though. It's not gonna happen though. Like are we gonna talk about? Like real world, like the tap tap needs to happen, and I agree, but with the progression of shit, it's not going to so like what's the actual?
Speaker 1:logical answer no, that's, that's what. That's my only logic I got right now okay because you are gonna touch on what you your, your maybe no, you will. No, you will. It's cool. I'm gonna let you roll with it, because you ended to win it and I completely agree with that part. Um, and I'm not sure if that's gonna happen either, because clearly we in a world they don't even know how to balance no fucking checkbook, clearly no, but they're not they can't even write in cursive they're not getting the tap tap in at home.
Speaker 1:They're not getting it at school the way this world is going, in, the way these little mofos be acting, they, you right, they won't get a tap tap with a ruler. They're gonna get, because the teacher's only gonna deal with so much. Because that's what's been going on right now in schools. Is they want, um, or teachers or school boards or whatever? They're trying to basically see if they'll allow a teacher carry a gun.
Speaker 2:Some teachers are just as crazy as the damn students I think a gun is a little, a little bit much, but I do understand that there's school shootings as well what happened to like I have a different perspective, prefacing what I'm about to say with this, just because both of my parents were teachers and they were very good.
Speaker 2:So you gotta nurture an environment to learn. So like, fundamentally, top down it's even at any corporate job or any business or fucking anything it works top down, like you have to nurture the environment, you have to water the soil for the thing to grow. Fucking Fucking the sky rains on trees and then it makes it down to the root and that thing is like, okay, I'm going to try to grow and just apply that to anything, especially schools, because that's our youth, that is the soil. Especially schools, because that's our youth, that is the soil. Those kids are the future. And just like if my rain or sun had a gun, no, it's just going to make it worse. I'm happy I'm the age I am now where I'm not there and I don't have to deal with it, but it's terrifying for me to hit that subject. Obviously, I have a different perspective but, I, got home and I learned shit.
Speaker 2:I went to school and I learned shit because I learned from home and I learned shit. I went to school and I learned shit Because I learned from home how to learn shit. People don't want to learn shit anymore, they just watch shit.
Speaker 1:Well heck, the parents ain't doing their job half the time, and that's why we have so many.
Speaker 2:Because they're so consumed with themselves, because they're screaming from the top of the rooftop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that is why we have so many issues in the schools. That's why I'm like, okay, the teachers may need to rat, tat, tat a little, a little hand, you know, get them with a ruler, do I think the teachers? I hell, I don't even think the students need a gun, but I definitely don't want the teachers to have one because you're going to get that teacher.
Speaker 2:that's being poked too much actually I'm changing, I'm changing my point and they need to raise the wage for teachers, because people that are actually qualified to teach you said the wage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just make sure.
Speaker 2:Because the people that are actually qualified to understand a room of children now are not going to put themselves in a room full of children, of children now, are not going to put themselves in a room full of children. They're going to go on Zoom and get a bunch of adolescent adults and do therapy for them. That's where all the good teachers went, because they were like I'm not putting myself in a room full of erratic kids. I know too much about psychology. It's all gatekeepy. So if we raise the wage to the average psychologist for teachers for our soil, that is my answer. Raise the wage, because the youth is gonna kill this place the youth is going to kill this place.
Speaker 1:Well, good luck on raising that wage?
Speaker 2:It's not. I already know, but I want to get this on wax Because I said it and everybody told me hey, you was right. Oh shit, when the world's fucking burning, it's technically burning. Now we got a lot of DEI issues now, exactly so I'm good.
Speaker 1:We already burning honey. We're already burning. You know we started burning what. What was it? When was our inauguration? January, something?
Speaker 2:I'm not getting on that, I'm not touching that with a temple pole, we burned.
Speaker 1:when COVID hit, I didn't burn.
Speaker 2:I'm not touching that with a temper pole either. What's the next one?
Speaker 1:In order of importance.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna try to focus on stuff I Like Care about, like the youth and like the all the that's, that's fucking.
Speaker 1:But all that affects everything.
Speaker 2:Literally, politics is Kim Kardashian for keeping up with the Kardashians. For people that just want to numb their mind, politics is literally the 60-year-old version of brain rot. Is that a hot take? I don't really give a fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not sure, but I'll worry about it later, right?
Speaker 2:Politics is brain rot, though. Okay, what Politics ain't? Politics no more Like everybody looks at Instagram and like, oh, you're viewing Spongebob, like edits, and I'm like motherfucker, you listening to fucking James Earl Jones or whoever the fuck is on whatever political podcast, being like, wow, he said some shit. That's really impactful.
Speaker 1:I just want to let the viewers know we do know James Earl Jones have passed. We are very aware. I just want everybody to know. So don't worry if you heard him on a political podcast, they lied. I want to get ahead of this right now. I am sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, james Earl Jones. I respect you, I know you're not a politician and I think I was confusing you with something Pierce. So I'm sorry, james Earl Jones, I loved you in Darth Vader the movie. Alright, what, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, In order of importance, how would you rank happiness, money, freedom and love?
Speaker 2:Do you want me to go first? Mm-hmm, can you repeat the four words, not the question?
Speaker 1:Happiness, money, freedom, love.
Speaker 2:Money last love first, freedom second. What's the third one? Happiness.
Speaker 1:Happiness, my money is definitely last. Love and happiness for me is like number two, because I feel like if I'm happy, Well, that's what I just said, though, didn't I? No but. But if I'm happy, I will give love and feel loved, and vice versa but happy is fleeting, happiness is fleeting listen, I'm telling you for me how you gonna try to change me.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to change you.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like for me.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to reason what I said.
Speaker 1:I already said you you ain't gotta reason what you say. You stand on you.
Speaker 2:I am. I said money last.
Speaker 1:Yes, money's definitely last.
Speaker 2:Freedom, love, freedom and love is such a cool. Yeah, money and happiness, those are the boat. Those are the most monetary and fleeting things, I think, in that list money's last, but the thing for me one of you ever felt free well that's a feeling I don't think anybody's felt ever okay, so me me in tax season we're gonna discuss freedom really I didn't get taxed, I got money back. But listen yeah, no, I got four dollars. What the hell are you doing nothing?
Speaker 1:I was like what are you doing? You got $4, but there's freedoms, even in this day and age, that people like me don't have legally yes, on paper, but it is disguised. Our freedoms are taken away In some of the craziest ways and sometimes we don't even notice it until shit pops off and we're like what? And then we try to make it seem like it's a brand new thing.
Speaker 2:I don't want to get into politics, think, or even the no, I'm not trying to be insensitive to that, but I just think so I can't really say that's leading number one fleeting and root wise, like if we're talking about watering something and it grows. Happiness is an extent of watering something. Money is an extent of watering something. What do you water that with? You need to let somebody think they're free and you need to let somebody. What's the other word?
Speaker 1:Love.
Speaker 2:Think they're loved. You water people with freedom and love, and then the other two things grow yeah, but we need to first get in the rigmarole of the bullshit yeah so, alright, are you closing us out? Money is definitely there, money. It's going to kind of go either way.
Speaker 1:We all know that. You know money is what the root of all evil.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Take that out of her check.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:That dumbass Samsung. I swear to God.
Speaker 1:That is our least worry. It's not the Samsung, it's the homeless guy. It's not the Samsung. Oh Lord, wait, hold on.
Speaker 2:There's more apples in the world All right, everybody, I'm going to go pee and Anna's going to close us out. It was a pleasure listening to you all.
Speaker 1:That was very interesting.
Speaker 2:Well, I do have to pee for the last one. Maybe that's why I'm so irritated. Is it really All right? No, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we will do put a little wisdom on it, or put a little love on it, put a little something on it.
Speaker 2:Put a little oof, oof, oof.
Speaker 1:This is our sit on it segment and I will be reading to you from the book of the awakening by Mark Nepo, with a Ford by Jamie Lee Curtis the life of a caretaker. Accept this gift so I can see myself as giving. I have been learning the life of a caretaker is as addictive as the life of an alcoholic. Here the intoxication is the emotional relief that temporarily comes when answering a loved one's need, though it never lasts. In the moment of answering someone's need we feel loved. While much good can come from this, especially for those the caretaker attends, the care itself becomes a drink by which we briefly numb, a worthlessness that won't go away unless constantly doused by another shot of self-sacrifice. It all tightens until what others need is anticipated beyond what is real and then, without any true need being voiced, and anxiety to respond, build that can only be relieved if something is offered or done. At the heart of this is the ever-present worry that unless doing something for another, there is no possibility of being loved. So the needs of others stand within reach like bottles behind a bar that, try as he or she will, the caretaker cannot resist.
Speaker 1:I have experienced this even in the simple issue of calling a loved one. While away from home, even when no one expects to hear from me, I agonize over whether to call. Often, unable to withstand the discomfort of not registering some evidence of my love, I will end up going to great lengths to call. In truth, caretaking, though seeming quite generous, is very self-serving and its urgent self-centeredness prevents a life of genuine compassion a life of genuine compassion In all honesty. To heal from this requires a rigorous program of recovery, as alcoholics enlist, including sponsors who will love us for who we are Within oneself. The remedy of spirit that allows for true giving resides somewhere in the faith to believe that each of us is worthy of love just as we are.
Speaker 2:Well, that's kind of crazy it tied in. I'm back from peeing also. It's kind of crazy that tied in Love, I think love's one.
Speaker 1:You think love's one.
Speaker 2:No, love is the top of the list of the four. Yeah, I know love is first and I know money's last.
Speaker 1:We don't live in a world of love. If we did, we wouldn't have so many wars.
Speaker 2:I can live my life with love.
Speaker 1:I mean me can, I'm me can, I can't do, me can, but too, me can but.
Speaker 2:Because the world's going to keep doing what the world does. But my little Subsect of life and generality and just whatever's there, if I lead with love.
Speaker 1:I think I can sleep okay at night. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to change anything, but nobody has nobody has for the past 2000 years you know what I mean anybody that's led with love, you know. But I think I can sleep better at night if I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have guilty conscience syndrome, so I know I'm going to be being a good person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love everyone. I might not like their ways, but I love everyone.
Speaker 1:That's my little motto. I love everyone's my little motto I love everyone, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, this was a beautiful, wonderful april night. I think, yep, yes, we're in april and uh, thank y'all for listening. If you got this far, yeah, um, do I have to sign off anything at all, or do you want to take?
Speaker 1:over the wheel. Thank Thank you for joining us and click like and subscribe and send it to your friends and family. Bye.