Fully Known, Fully Loved: Trusting God Through Motherhood with Melanie Cox

In this deeply moving and faith-filled episode of The Mommy Pod, we sit down with Melanie Cox—mom of five, wife of 31 years, CEO, and author of the Amazon #1 bestselling book You Have to Know.

Melanie shares her journey through motherhood, marriage, and life’s unexpected challenges, reminding us that our mess is not something to hide—it can be the very place where healing begins.

Through powerful testimony and unwavering faith, she opens up about one of the hardest seasons of her life—raising a son who didn’t speak until the age of eight—and what it truly meant to surrender control and trust God, even when nothing made sense.

This episode is for the mom who is carrying silent fears, grieving unmet expectations, or questioning where God is in her story. Melanie brings a message of hope, reminding us that we are fully known, fully seen, and fully loved—exactly as we are.

"Mom of 5 | Married 31 years | CEO | Author ✨
After 31 years of marriage, raising five incredible kids, and building a life full of both beautiful moments and real challenges, I’ve learned this: your mess doesn’t disqualify you—it can become the very place your healing begins.
I’m the author of You Have to Know, an Amazon #1 bestseller, written from a place of honesty, growth, and deep belief that every person deserves to live free—free from shame, free from fear, and free from the weight of their past.
My heart is to remind you that you are fully loved, fully seen, and never overlooked. No matter where you’ve been or what you’ve walked through, your story still matters—and it’s not over.
I would like to offer people. free copy of they dm me their email"

Melanie is offering a free copy of her book You Have to Know—simply DM her your email to receive it.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hi, moms and dads. Welcome back to the Mommy Pod, a space where we get real about motherhood, healing, and finding our way through the hard seasons. Today's episode is for the parent who feels like they're holding it all together on the outside, but inside they're questioning, grieving, or just trying to understand God's plan. If you've ever had to let go of what you thought your life was going to be or what your child's life was supposed to look like, this conversation is for you. I'm joined by Melanie Cox, a mother of five, married for 31 years, a CEO, an author, and a woman of deep faith. After just decades of raising a family, walking through both beautiful moments and real life challenges, Melanie has come to understand something powerful. Your mess does not qualify you. Does not disqualify you. It can become the very place your healing begins. Melanie, there's so much more that I want to say. I'm gonna record our intro a little bit later. Welcome to the Mommy Pod. Thank you for having me. All right, let's dive right in. Can you introduce yourself to our listeners in your own words and share a little bit about your journey as a mom, wife, and woman of faith?

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Man, that's that's a that that that could take an hour. Um, I am I'm a mom of five, and I have five miracle babies. I was told I'd never have kids, and I just just kept breeding them. And then I would never carry them, I would never hold them, and they've called three of my children dead. And the one thing that I know that I'm passionate about is spreading the word that it doesn't matter what you think your life looks like, it doesn't matter where you think your child is, it doesn't matter the circumstance or situation you're in, that God always has a path out of that wilderness. So I've become passionate about um just speaking life into people, the truth into people. So I'm excited to be here and hopefully get some of that across.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

I love that. Thank you. You've been married for 31 years and you've raised five children. What has that journey taught you about God, love, and endurance?

SPEAKER_00 2:10

You know, so many times that we think that God is this, this, and he is, but it's this big God who created the universe and and he holds the sun all day until it swaps places in the moon and and he knows all the stars and numbers them and the wars and the big things. And we have a viewpoint of God in the bigness of who God is, the creator, God Almighty. But a lot of us really miss the heart of God, and that's the God who's sitting and having a cup of coffee with you. The God who, when you cry at night, he's sitting right beside you, that he knows you and that he sees you. And and we often don't feel that God is in the middle of our situation and we cry out like, God, where are you? Like, why aren't you protecting this child? And where are you in the situation and all the lack that I'm feeling? And and all of these things that we go through on a daily basis, we miss the very nature of who God is. So the one thing that it's taught me is to realize, no, God, you're in it with me on all of it. Every tear, every cry, every wayward kid, every bill that couldn't get paid. You're sitting right there rooting for me, praying for me, believing in me. And it's really taught me to surrender my life because the second that you learn to give those things and place them in the hand of your Almighty God, it your trajectory of your life changes.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

I believe that. I totally believe that. There's some weeks that we are just hanging on, but I just keep my faith. And somehow it always happens, things always come through.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Yeah. Trusting and believing. And to prophesy. That's you know, it's like prophesy means you speak the word of God. And oftentimes we let our language of our mouth really bring down our life situation. You know, it'll never get good, it'll never be better. That kid will never change, I'll never move forward. And we start calling this grossness, and it becomes what our life actually is. So the one the other thing I've learned is it's like, no, I speak things how I want to see them. Oh, Father God, you said life and life abundantly. You said if I raise my kid in the way of the Lord, he will always come back. You say a fulfillness, you say, not me. So you have to start speaking words of life into your situation to turn them around.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

I like that. Speak power over your existence. And you say prophesied over your life, which I've I like that I've never heard of someone saying, like, you can do your own prophesying because that'll work. No, prophesying. Yeah, because here's the thing. Sorry, I think like in this era of time, we say manifestation. So would you say that you say prophesy?

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I hate the word manifestation. Okay. Because manifestation means that you yourself have the power to do something, you yourself can manifest it. And I don't believe that that's true. You know, your prayer life is a gift. I mean, Jesus paid a high price for it. And prophecy is different because what you're doing is you're declaring the word of God. You are reiterating what God has already said is true. You know, and when God says, hey, look, when I make, God himself says, when I make a promise, that promise stands for all time. I am not a God that goes back on my word. So what you're doing is you are calling forth the promise that was already given to you. You know, it's almost like you're ordering a double-double at in and out, and all you're doing is going to the window and saying, hey, just so you know, I paid for a double-double animal fries and a coke. Here's my ticket. Thank you so much for my food.

unknown 5:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

And it's like you have to pray into that and you have to believe for that because it's already yours. But the reason why we don't receive it is it really has nothing to do on God's behalf, but everything to do on our behalf. We don't feel we're worthy of it or we don't pray for it, or we're double-minded in it. And those are all things biblically that God says a double-minded man should expect to receive nothing. That's a Bible verse in Isaiah. Nothing. You're double-minded about really truly believing if God can do it or will do it. Expect to receive nothing. Prophesy to the dry bones. I know you can do it. You said you would do it, God. I am calling you on your word, not mine, yours. Life and life abundantly. Um uh uh peace and peace after. I you will have tribulation, but I may have peace. I call may peace. I call life and life abundantly, I call ever after. I call all those promises, I call them into my life.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Yeah. Oh, that's really powerful. You said something also powerful that your mess doesn't disqualify you. Can you talk about what that means? Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

You know, I have screwed up. Uh, I have a book, I and man, I would love to give it to anyone who wants to DM me and I will send you a free digital copy or a paperbook copy. But I have been through more messy situations. I have done more wrong, I have been more wronged than most people. And the one thing that I realize is if you look at your fires just a little bit differently, not that they burned and scarred you, but they actually refined you and purified you, you operate differently in them. The things that I did have made me more beautiful. The things I have gone through, I'm shinier. I'm refined. And I can meet people, and people will be like, oh, you're you're never gonna believe it. Or you you know how many times people come up to me? I I uh I speak at churches and things and they say, Oh, you wouldn't, you wouldn't understand. I'd be like, try me. Try me. Yeah, uh-huh. Oh, you went to jail? Yeah, I was there, I was only there for 30 days, but yeah, me too. You know, tried to commit suicide in seventh grade. My mom was a white witch. It's like there's sacrificial junk. It's like there are so many things in my history, and guess what? They've made me beautiful. They make me understand people's situations. And not only can I understand you, I can tell you in exact certainty, life gets so good when you surrender your life over. Your life, I don't care what it looks like today in your mess, has the potential to be so beautiful. You are not burnt, you are not scarred, you are in the process of being refined, and you will never be in a wilderness that you already do not have a provision for the way out. You just got to look for the path. Sometimes we get in wildernesses and we're like, no, but I'm so covered by trees and bushes and I can't move. It's like you're stuck, then guess what? Get up and move, walk out of it, and you are better for it. I promise you, you are a better person for it.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Oh, thank you. You shared something about your son not speaking until he was eight. That's something that so many parents can um they can't even imagine walking through, but a lot can relate to. Um, can you take us through that season emotionally and spiritually?

SPEAKER_00 8:42

That's a hard one. Um, if I am being very, very honest, I believe in my heart that I created that. I uh was ginormous at one point, and so I started taking Adderall to lose weight, and I didn't know I was pregnant. So then all of a sudden I have this little boy and he doesn't speak. And, you know, and I'm doing the research and it crosses a blood-brain barrier, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I destroyed a kid. And and I don't know if you have ever harmed one of your children intentionally or unintentionally. It is one of the most gut-wrenching, painful seasons you'll ever go through. And and um, that was one where he just didn't really speak, and I would army crawl at night across the floor and I'd put my hand on the door and I would just start sobbing and I'd say, Oh, forgive me, God, forgive me what I did. I would do anything if I could go back in time. If I could go back in time and write the situation, I would give my life for it. And I would cry night after night after night and pray. And then one day I felt like God say, Melanie, you can't go back in time. I know, God, I can't, but guess who can? I can because I'm outside of time. I can go back and redeem that timeline. I can go back and redeem that that situation, but I can't redeem it unless you hand it to me. Do you believe I am who I say I am? Is there anything impossible for God? Do you believe I can give this kid a voice and a future? And it was one of those times, and it goes back to prophesying that my language started to change. And instead of crying at night, I'd lay my hand on that door and I'd say, Father God, I am forgiven, I am redeemed, I am restored. You will give him a voice and you will give him a path. This situation that I am in right now, this future that I can only see that that has zero future for this kid, that is not fact. That is not the truth, that is not what's happening. I know that you are a good God and you will find a way for this kid. And um, when he hit eight, all of a sudden he started talking and and slowly, you know, now he's 18 and he's got friends and he's got a fullness of life, and and I see a future for him and a path, and and and it all came for good. Um, but it's a hard situation, you know. There are times when when you're so dark with your kid, you can't see a future or a way out. And it's those times that you have to dig so, so deep and speak life. You have to believe for him when they can't, you have to stand for them when they can't stand on their own.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Yeah, that's really strong. I have to ask, did you did it was it just the power of prayer and consistent prayer? Or did you do therapy with him at all?

SPEAKER_00 11:11

So he has an autoprocessing disorder. Of course, you do all that. We found out and we we did a lot of um a lot of therapy with him and and time just healed.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

But I think that there was always a provision for it. I think it really just speaks to the nature of don't give up.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

You know, I think my my the story isn't of course you do all the things. You you you know, you do all the testing and you do everything you can in the natural to make them. But there's also a point where you start feeling really hopeless sometimes about your situation, and it's more of a message of ah, don't give up. Don't get fight. You stand up, mommies, you fight, you stand up, dads, you fight. You do not give up. You fight and until you break through that wilderness. You hack those bushes down until you have a path out. Do not give up.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

That's really good. Yes. What did it look like for you to truly release the situation to God, especially when you didn't understand what was happening?

SPEAKER_00 12:10

I've had a lot of situations I've released to God, and it and it's it's hard, right? Because you you have your human mind. You wake up at three o'clock in the morning and you have the enemy always saying, It'll never get better, he'll never be right, it'll never it's not for you. And you just have to fight against those. A lot of times I'll just put on praise music and and um I'll just be like, okay, I'm not gonna listen to that nonsense. Or the other thing I've really trained my mind to do, you know, Satan can only put a seed in your mind, but you yourself water it. So he can only put the thought there, but then you're the one that ruminates on it and waters it and you come to agreement with it. So I start taking every thought captive. Like, you know, the Bible says, take every thought captive to the obedient will of Christ. And if you really take that literal, think about what it's being captive of. I mean, I told you I was in um jail for a couple of weeks. I threw a rager when I was 17, underage alcohol, it got way out of control. I got in a lot of trouble for that one. And um, if to take something captive is you stop it, you don't move, you're done. So when God says you take that thought captive, that means you grasp it. And then you say, Does this lead me closer to God or further away? Is this, you know, if the enemy kills, still, and destroys, does this lead me to kill, still, and destroy, or to life and life abundantly? And then you start to realize who's operating in your mind. And if it's not the proper thought pattern, if it's not to life and life abundantly, then you stop it, you say, This is not truth. I will not stand on it. I do not allow this to drop in my soul, into my spirit, into my mind. I boot you out. You get out.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Thank you. And for the mom or parents that's listening, who's who's grieving, what they thought their child's life would look like, what would you say to them?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Well, I don't think that's over. Right? It's it's it's what it is. If you're grieving, then that goes back to it. You don't grieve. You should not be a mother who grieves for anything. You know what grieving is? Grieving is after something is dead and gone. Grieving is something that you've buried in the ground six feet under, and there is no chance of revival. But guess what? Lazarus was dead for three days and he and he had revival. He rose from the dead. The Shunite woman dead for for two days, rose again from that bed. There is no such thing as grieving for something that's gone. That's when you stand and you fight for it. That's when you call for revival. That's when you say, uh-uh, not for me in my house, because we serve the Lord. This does not stand. The Shunammite woman went and she got Elijah and she said, You come, man of God, and you revive my son. So I would say to the parent who feels that the kid's too far gone, no, no, no, you stand and fight. You go to the man of God and say, You come and you revive the situation. You revive my son, you bring him back to me, you bring him into alignment with who he was created to be. If you have a kid that is not operating in the purpose it was created to be, then you go to war. You don't sit there and grieve. That kid's not dead. If there's breath in your kid, you war for that child. And you wore and you wore and you wore until you win that battle and you bring him back home and put him in the purpose he was created to be.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

That's beautiful. It goes back to speaking power. Your book, you have sorry, your book you have to know speaks to freedom, freedom from shame, fear, and the past. So, what do people need to know most about having freedom?

SPEAKER_00 15:28

People need to know that you can get out of it. There is a really sad sense of hopelessness that people uh acquiesce to, and people often lower their faith to their circumstances, and maybe they think God is good, but just not good for them, or that God shows up and God is a powerful God, but not in their circumstance and situation. I think you have to know every person who hears this podcast that that God loves and knows you, that God says, I think about you as many times as grain of sands of all the ocean and all the world. And that's a lot of sand. And that's not in your lifetime. That's he says, I think about you every moment, every one of my kids. That you are a son or a daughter of God, that you are beloved and honored, redored, reemed, and heir to the throne. You are a friend. God calls you a friend. How sweet is that? It's, I think my message and the book is knowing the heart and the nature of who God is, that knowing that you're never discounted, you're not overlooked, you're, you know, you've never too far gone, that you're really just one prayer away from redemption. You're you're one walk away from a full life.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Why do you think that's so many people get stuck in the shame of that and they don't even recognize and it's hard for them to see how much God loves them?

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Yeah, well, shame grows in darkness, but the second you bring it to the light of God, it stops. And I think the problem is, is people, I'm gonna tell you, if I could wrap one problem up with the whole world from beginning to creation until the end of creation, it's gonna be starting in Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden that you listen to the lies of Satan. First time you meet Satan, oh, Eve, did God really say that? Is that apple really gonna kill you? And look where it led her. So the reason why it's so hard for people is because you believe these little seeds of lies that are planted in your mind. You believe that you're not worthy of God's love, that you're not good enough, that you're too far gone, that man, even if you knew them, you wouldn't be that good of a Christian. Or maybe it's the opposite. Maybe you believe that Christians are just always harping on you and they're so judgmental, and oh, those Christians in that church. You know, God's never shown up for me before. Why would He show up again? God's not in this situation, God's not in control. You start believing the lies that Satan plants and they become the truth in your identity. The reason why you fail is because you're you're following and listening to the wrong person, you're tuned into the wrong frequency. You need to recalibrate your radio to heaven and not hell.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Recalibrate, recalibrate your radio. I like that. What advice, along with recalibrating your radio, would you give to parents who are tired of questioning God and they're feeling unseen?

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Well, really, fixing your problems is not your problem to fix, right? We do that as parents, especially as parents, all the time is you know, we've got four bald wheels that are so stressed out and ready to blow, and we're going 150 down the freeway. And God's like, pull over so I can give you new tires. Pull over, let me fix your car. And you're like, Yeah, God, fix my car, but you don't pull over. You're still going 150. God, I need new tires. I need new tires. God's like, pull over, give me the car, give me 10 minutes with it. I can't. I got somewhere to go, God. We don't release our situations and we try to fix things that aren't ours to fix, and we place them in our hands and we hold that hand and that grip so, so tight. And we say, Oh, if I don't fix it, no one will. If I don't hold it, no one will. I've got to do it. In the upside-down economy of God, it's actually the exact opposite. Your healing and your rest starts the second you hand your situation over, not when it's fixed. You know, we live in this, get the list done and then you can rest. Finish the problem and then you can rest. And God's saying, No, no, no, no, no, no. Rest and I'll finish the problem. Rest and I'll finish the list. We have it completely screwed up. And because we don't surrender and rest first, God can't come in and do the second part. So we hold and we strife. You know, look at Sarah and Hagar. Ishmael was born of strife. And man, look how that turned out. Isaac was born in rest. The promise of God came to Sarah the second she said, Is there anything too hard for the Lord? That one sentence in the Old Testament was the whole nation of Israel. She stopped striving, stopped giving Abraham Hagar and everything that she tried to do to have the kids and the line and the lineage. She stopped, rested with the angel of the Lord, said, Is there anything too hard for the Lord? And her promise came immediately.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Beautiful. How can parents begin rebuilding their faith when they feel disconnected?

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Um, read your Bible. You know, that's the brethren word of God. It's it's so crazy to me that that people are like, I just really miss, I really miss my heavenly father. It's like, oh, well then when the last happened pick up phone. You know what happens when you miss people? You call them, you spend time, you you get in a relationship, you have a cup of coffee. When's the last time you sat down with dad? If you feel far and distant away from your dad, then why don't you go on vacation with your father? Pick up the phone and call him, get into your word, read your Bible, listen to a podcast, go to a church service, watch a church service online. You can't be close to something you're not investing any time and energy into. It's impossible. You know, I could I could tell you absolutely zero about the Pope. I don't even know the Pope's name, to be quite honest with you. Pope, I'm sure John Paul, the 90th, 100th, I don't know. Something like that. But I don't have a relationship with them, and I could tell you absolutely nothing about them because I haven't spent any time with them. But guess what? I could tell you everything about one of my kids. I could tell you their favorite color, I could tell you what jello they like, you know, their favorite Disneyland ride, because I've invested time with them. You gotta put the time on me for the relationship.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Very nice. I do have to say that the Pope is Pope Leo. A CEO, an author, and a founder. Yep. How has your faith shaped the way you lead your life in business?

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Um, I get in a lot of trouble for my faith at work, to be quite honest with you. You're lucky you you you teach in a Christian or a Catholic school. I am in um uh a building development, you know, and you can imagine some little girl coming in with the grass with the love of Jesus with blueprints. There's a lot of eye rolls to that. But I stay true. You know, I made God my CEO a long, long time ago. And there's things that I like and that I don't like, but I I know in the end, if I give the glory to God and if I listen to the voice of God, it's going to turn out perfect. Even my nos are blessings. Even my big projects that are no's, I sit down at home and I say, Oh, thank you, God, for that no. Thank you, God. I don't know what you saved me from, but I bet it was going to be really, really bad. Thank you, God, for that no. I can't wait to see the door you're going to open next.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

You know, and if someone asks me to do something dishonest, it's like, man, I'm sorry. I'm I'm I'm a I'm a Christian. I'm a follower of Jesus. I don't, you know, the only person I would cheat would be, you know, the man upstairs. And that wouldn't bow so well for me. So I'm just not going to do that project, or I'm not going to cheat that person. You know, if it's wrong, I'm I'm going to stand on my word. I'm going to live a life. I'm going to, I want my life to be the same as my mouth. That's that's got to align. So my actions have to align with that. Good for you.

unknown 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

I actually accidentally just stole a whole bunch of plants from Lowe's. And uh it was on Easter. My son was getting married and a heat wave came and all the flowers died. So I went and I loaded my cars up with Lowe's because we have a ranch that's like two hours out away from anywhere. And I went back yesterday after the wedding and I took a picture of every picture, every plant. And I had to go to the um the manager said, You know, my name's Millie Cox. I want you to know it was Easter night. You were closed, and I stole. And then I just start going through my phone. And he's like ringing it up, and he's like, I have never had anyone come back a week later. Oh my god. And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, you know what? I just I want to, you know, I live my life clean by God. It's like, I don't care that you guys didn't know, dad did, and I'm not gonna get in trouble about my dad, so you're gonna have to ring me up for all these plants, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

That's so funny. Wow. Um, you wrote, what inspired you to write your book? You have to know.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Um, I didn't write a book. So I was told I had thyroid cancer and I was gonna die. And I sat down, and um, it was just one of those rainy days, and I thought, what are the truths my kids have to know? And I think that's why the book, the book hit number one on Amazon, it's won some awards. There's a realness and a rawness to the book because I wrote it as a love letter to my kids. It's like, kids, I'm not gonna be around. And and man, little girls, the world will tell you you're not enough. You're not pretty enough, you're not smart enough, you're not good enough. You will never be enough by the world's standards. But can I tell you a story about Kylie? And it was a really funny story about Kylie and and somewhere her dad met you. And can I tell you the story about Gideon when the angel of the Lord came in and said, You mighty man of valor, and Gideon was like, No, I'm the blood of the pribe, I'm hiding in a wine press, the least of the least. But that's not who the angel of the Lord's on. That's not who God's on to be. And then that chapter would be indicative of if you are going through this where you see yourself as not enough, can you hold to these scriptures? Can you see yourself how God sees you? Can I tell you who God calls his daughters to be? And then at the end of the chapter, there's there's um like little writing prompts and and almost it's almost like a like a devotional. You can read each story stands alone in about 10, 10 minutes. So there were just biblical truths on I wanted my kids to know the heart of God, the true nature of who God was. And I wanted to bring them through whatever season, whether they'd be stuck or not enough or lack or singletude. And I wanted them to know if I were there to be like, yeah, but you know what God says about your singleton? You know, you know what God says about your anxiety? Do you know what you know what God says about that? And then I would kind of lead them through that because I wasn't gonna be here and I had to see him in heaven. And then I brought it to a publisher and she's like, I gotta publish your book. And I'm like, one thought. I said, I want five copies. 1000% you cannot publish this book. And then she's like, I will pay for everything. I have to publish your book. We went back and forth for like two months, and I said, All right, I I cannot see how this is gonna go anywhere. And then it sold like 6,000 copies in the first four months. It was crazy. And I've gotten a ton of DMs saying, like, I cannot believe you wrote that. I I think that I had no idea. Any I cannot believe you put that on paper. I'm like, yep, I did. I know it's it's it's true, it's very true and raw. And I think there's gonna be a little bit of Melanie in in a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Yeah, that's beautiful. How old were your kids when you found out when you started it?

SPEAKER_00 26:12

The youngest was 13. And so not baby babies, but you know, just enough to get on the cuspice where you're probably gonna need a mom. Yeah, just enough to go to a hundred job interviews and not get hired, and just enough to go through high school and feel not so cute.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

And yeah, you know, I don't think you ever get over needing a mom.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

I hope not.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Yeah. Well, that's so wonderful. I'm glad you that you are here, and I'm glad that you wrote that book for all of us to read and learn. Um what do you hope someone feels after they read your book? Free. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Free. I you know, uh, it's funny, I've walked away a lot from business. I have such a desire for people to know the trueness of who God is. I think we limit ourselves on the nature of God. And I want you to walk away and know that you're good enough. I want you to walk away and know that God loves you and He sees you in all your situations, that you are never down and out, that you are never less than. And and it gives really good biblical principles on how to get back on track. I want you back on track. You know, if you're in anxiety, can you read this? If you know you're doing something in shame, boy, read this chapter. You know, if you've got a relationship with a parent that is really, really ugly, hi, uh, well, I had a white witch. So can you read this chapter and know that you've got to forgive them in order to move forward in your blessing? You know, it's it's if you have this, read this, and then it shows you like what God thinks about that and how God wants to move you through that situation.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

Wow, I'm ready. I want to go get the book now. You're offering something really special, which is the first time that anyone has offered our listeners something special. So thank you so much. You were offering your book. If this episode speaks to you, um, you can DM her for your free copy of the book. You have to know. This is truly a gift, and I encourage you to take advantage of it. Melanie, is there anything else that you would like to leave our listeners with?

SPEAKER_00 28:17

God loves you. I've said it before, but it's true. So I'm just gonna say it one more time. God knows you, God sees you, God loves you.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Thank you so much. What an amazing conversation. Thank you for your faith, and thank you for sharing it with us. And I hope that your our conversation has led someone closer to God today.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

I love that. Amen.