Sobriety... Now What? with Stuart Cline
Most sobriety podcasts tell you to stay sober. This one helps you figure out what to do with the life you're building.
Sobriety... Now What? is for people who are sober — or trying to be — and ready to go deeper than just not drinking or using. Each episode explores what it actually looks like to build a life worth staying sober for.
I'm your host, Stuart Cline — a licensed therapist, addiction counselor, and Master Addiction Counselor (MAC) with over 25 years in clinical practice — from a locked inpatient psychiatric unit early in my career, to leading an intensive outpatient program, to 18 years of hospital-based clinical work alongside a private practice. In New Mexico I hold two active licenses: Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) and Licensed Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselor (LADAC).
I also bring something no credential can give you. I grew up with two alcoholic parents — one who got sober, and one who didn't. The difference between those two paths shaped my life and my purpose. I know what recovery can cost, and I know what it can give back.
Each episode offers practical tools, honest conversations, and real strategies for navigating the emotional terrain of sober life — cravings, stress, relationships, purpose, identity, and everything in between. You'll hear from authors, musicians, teachers, business owners, and recovery experts, alongside solo episodes where I break down what works, why it works, and how to apply it.
There's no single right way to recover. But there are principles that help people thrive — and that's what we explore here.
This podcast exists to help you avoid unnecessary suffering and discover what's possible when sobriety becomes a foundation, not a limitation.
You're not alone — and you don't have to figure this out by yourself.
🌐 www.sobrietynowwhat.com ✉️ sobrietynowwhat111@gmail.com
Sobriety Now What? — Let's explore what comes next.
Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not establish a therapeutic or counseling relationship.
Sobriety... Now What? with Stuart Cline
EP. 47 Nick Jonsson on Executive Loneliness: 5 Pathways to Recovery from Isolation, Burnout & Stress
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In this shorter episode, host Stuart Cline shares a recovered conversation with Nick Jonsson, #1 international bestselling author of Executive Loneliness: The 5 Pathways to Overcoming Isolation, Stress, Anxiety & Depression in the Modern Business World.
Nick (joining from Thailand while Stuart was in New Mexico) decided to write the book in 2019 after losing a friend to suicide, about a year into his own recovery. Technical issues limited the full interview, but the eight minutes we salvaged are packed with practical insight. Nick walks through his five pathways:
- Taking stock (honest self-assessment)
- Asking for help
- Getting healthy
- Nurturing healthy relationships
- Finding your purpose
He also touches on burnout, the cost of strained relationships (citing research that poor close relationships can be as harmful as smoking), how purpose often emerges once the basics are in place, and how he rediscovered his own sense of purpose by looking back at what he loved as a child.
Whether you’re in recovery, leading under pressure, or simply feeling the weight of isolation and modern stress, this conversation offers a clear, grounded framework you can start using right away.
Connect with Nick Jonsson
Website: https://www.nickjonsson.com/
Book a free connection call (speaking, coaching, or collaboration): https://www.nickjonsson.com/contact-me
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-jonsson/
Nick also hosts The Limitless Podcast.
About the show
Sobriety… Now What? (soon becoming Live Unclouded) helps people who are sober—or building a life worth staying sober for—navigate purpose, relationships, stress, and meaning.
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Note: This is a shorter salvaged episode due to connectivity challenges during the original recording.
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HI! If you would like to find out more things I offer, check out the links below. I am transitioning the title from Sobriety...Now What? to Live Unclouded, after the book title, I am publishing September 1st.
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🧠 Counseling Services: www.nmcounseling.com
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