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Burnout, Recovery, and the Texas Medical Board: Dr. Brett Cordes’ Journey

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Burnout rarely starts with a crash. It begins as a whisper—boredom at the peak, a shortened temper that leaks into home, a creeping sense that paperwork is winning over patients. We sit down with Dr. Brett Cordes, a practicing physician turned recovery advocate and coach, to trace a candid path from early warning signs to addiction, a hard reckoning with the Texas Medical Board, and—after years of delay and probation—a new way to serve the profession he loves.

Across an honest, unvarnished conversation, we unpack the signals clinicians often miss: the pursuit of external validation that props up self‑worth, the “grumpy” baseline that masks anxiety and depression, and the moment moral injury sets in when insurers overrule clinical judgment. Dr. Cordes names the system pressures that accelerate the slide—EMR overload, relentless coding demands, and a loss of autonomy—and explains how those forces can make good doctors feel like bystanders in their own practice. He also opens the black box of board proceedings: the first letter, the months of uncertainty, the adversarial hearing dynamic, and why counsel is essential to avoid unforced errors. COVID-era delays turned a one‑year suspension into years, and even after reinstatement, probation created barriers to payer contracts and hospital privileges, complicating any clean return to care.

The story doesn’t end in defeat. We explore practical ways to catch burnout early, set boundaries, and reclaim agency, alongside alternatives when clinical work no longer aligns with your values. Dr. Cordes shares how coaching physicians through burnout and regulatory fallout restored his purpose, and why he believes hospitals will soon be required to proactively identify and treat burnout. If you’re a clinician feeling stretched thin or a leader trying to protect your team, you’ll leave with clear warning signs to watch, steps to take before crisis, and resources to navigate legal and regulatory landmines with less fear and more clarity.

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Brett Cordes is a recently retired ear nose, and throat physician and surgeon who is now launching his own private physician coaching business. His career was almost completely derailed as he battled the disease of addiction. However, through consistent daily work, founded in humility, he was able to re-join the career that he always loved. He is now coaching physicians with symptoms of burnout and substance abuse.

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SPEAKER_00:

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SPEAKER_04:

Welcome back to Know Your Regulator, the podcast that inspires you to engage. I am your host, Simone Murfrey. In today's episode, we are exploring a personal and powerful story of redemption, resilience, and regulation. We are honored to have our guest, Dr. Brett Cortis, with us. Dr. Cortis is a practicing physician, a recovery advocate, and someone who's been through that full arc of licensure suspension and reinstatement. We'll be diving into exactly what healthcare professionals face when they're struggling with addiction, burnout, and navigating that regulatory system. Dr. Cortis, thank you so much for joining me.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_04:

Absolutely. So let's start at the beginning. Can you talk uh talk to us about um, you know, your background, walk us through your early years in medicine and maybe when you began to notice that something wasn't quite right?

SPEAKER_01:

Sure. Well, I was um, we'll go, we'll start way back at the beginning. I was born and raised in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and um went to high school and college here in Baton Rouge. I went to LSU and then went to uh LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans for med school and matched at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. So that's how that's how I ended up in Texas. But residency training lasted from 2005 through 2009, and I jumped on with a practice, a private practice inside the Texas Medical Center. In fact, we did a couple of rotations with this practice during residency, but uh I didn't have to go far, um, is my point. We lived in a suburb south of Houston, um, so we didn't have to move or anything. So um it was uh it was a perfect fit, really. So I started practicing in August of 2009. You know, it was it was phenomenal. I absolutely loved it. It was everything, it was really everything that I had dreamed or thought it could be. Um, because you know, you have to remember by this time I'm 32 years old and I'm about to draw my first paycheck ever in my entire life, like real paycheck. You know, I mean I cut grass when I was in high school and college and and for money. But um anyway, so that's a long time to go before you're you know really entering the real world as a functioning adult.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, but another thing is that I had been, you know, working toward this goal pretty much my entire life. Now, when I started college, I did not know what I wanted to be. I thought, uh honestly, I had I really had no idea. So my major is in history, just because I enjoyed history. Um, but it wasn't until I got sick, I got um non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, cancer of the lymph nodes, uh, during my freshman year of college. So that that skewed my course um to wanting to go to medical school and become a doctor. So since that time period, everything was working toward, you know, becoming a practicing physician. So, you know, that's that's 13 years of of work with one goal in mind. And I'm finally made it. 2009. I'm finally here. I'm done with all the training, I'm done with all the education, and it was a great feeling. And so I would say my first five years in practice was perfect. I mean, absolutely phenomenal. My wife and I had two young kids that we were raising. Again, I lived in a suburb south of Houston. Um, we life was life was grand. We were involved in our church community, we were involved in all kinds of kids' sports, and um it was just everything was going well, let me put it that way. And so you asked when I had first noticed something. Um I it was probably around 2014, maybe 2015, when I started to feel bored. I have since kind of realized that really what I was experiencing was a lack of fulfillment. But at the time it felt like boredom. Yeah um because I had, again, I had been climbing this mountain my whole life. I finally get there, and instead of being able to relax and live in the present moment and enjoy life, the only thing I could think of was, you know, looking around for the next challenge. What's what's my next challenge? What's the next thing I can do to accomplish or whatnot? Because I was so used to that. And without that, um, again, I just felt like I was I was bored. I needed something extra. And so that was, and that that feeling kind of grew into a low level anxiety. Um, but that was how things started to go askew, so to speak.

SPEAKER_04:

Gotcha. Yeah, no, it sounds like you've got the, you know, the picture perfect life that you've been working towards, and then it's kind of, you know, I I can see how you might have that, you know, um unfulfilled feeling going forward. You know, you kind of get there and it's like, okay, what's next? You know, what do I do next? And and keep going and building upon that. Um, you know, now that you've you've kind of come out on the other side, are there any warning signs, you know, in hindsight that um that you may have noticed or any like stressors, any triggers that um that you can think of that that maybe you didn't notice then, but you would see now?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, uh again, the the boredom thing um is a pretty early sign. Yeah. Uh, you know, not not I don't I don't know anyone who would tie that feeling of boredom, boredom to burnout or an impending substance abuse issue. Um, but it certainly was for me. And in terms of some psychological uh issues, there are there are definitely some warning signs. One is that, you know, I'll call it a character defect of mine, but I'm gonna mention it because many, many physicians have this issue, which is uh I seem to kind of garnish all of my self-worth through my job, through accomplishments. And so I needed some sort of external validation in order to feel worthy, so to speak. And so when I stopped achieving goals and stopped being rewarded and stopped having these accomplishments and plaques and awards and whatnot, when those stopped, um my self-worth kind of dropped a little bit. And again, this is I don't want to get too far into the weeds with the psychology of it. But um depending on external validation is a is a setup for uh substance abuse or or burnout.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and I mean I'm sure that that's seen a lot in the healthcare profession. You know, I mean, there's a lot of a lot of people you you care genuinely about your patients, but you're also trying to advance your career and advance medicine as a whole. And so you're looking for those accolades and those certificates and and recognition. And um, you know, I'm sure it it makes sense what you said that that stops coming in and you kind of start feeling, you know, like a lower self-worth or a lower self-esteem. We both know that physician burnout is a huge growing concern. Can you talk about what burnout really looks like, especially when it becomes dangerous? And just like we kind of mentioned um a moment ago, how can colleagues or organizations or even you know the healthcare professional themselves recognize that or catch it early?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and so um again, I I won't even include boredom as a warning sign because it that's hard to detect externally, you know, from someone else. But you know, I kind of call it the grumpy old man syndrome. So irritability is probably the single uh most common issue that people see people have. You just you just are in general irritable, both at work and at home. Not angry uh and not overtly frustrated, just kind of a low level of irritability is is a very early sign. But then that can turn into having a shortened temper, um, some anger outbursts, and that generally starts at the office or within the professional realm of things. And it starts to get, you know, it's starting to come off the rails a little bit when those symptoms leak over into your personal life. So now instead of getting frustrated at work because you have to talk to an insurance company, you're getting frustrated with you know your kid for spilling milk or you know, uh your personal life begins to uh become affected. So irritability, anger, uh frustration, uh shortened temper, and depression. You can also have you know overt psychological diagnoses like anxiety and depression.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh those are also issues. And so it's not uncommon for physicians or healthcare providers to seek professional help for anxiety or depression. So that would be another warning sign, so to speak. But again, that and that that's also an obstacle toward getting help for burnout and and for anxiety and depression. Physicians don't feel comfortable asking for help. We don't feel comfortable going to a psychiatrist and being prescribed an actual medication because we're afraid at some point that's going to backfire on us with the medical board or if patients find out, and you know, so that's a that's a concern that many of us have.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, no, and that's sad because you guys should be able to get the help that you need just as much as everybody else, you know. Um, what are some strategies that maybe you've seen or maybe that you would recommend for physicians or healthcare professionals when they're um trying to manage their stress or trying to manage that burnout before it becomes overwhelming?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, we can talk about how to, you know, stress management tools in terms of what causes burnout. So, you know, there's there's five or six causes of burnout, but one of the big ones is um, well, generally the work volume becomes so much that you're having to take things home, you're having to stay late at the office, you're having to come in on the weekends. Um, so the the actual volume of work with the paperwork and the computer work that we need to do with electronic medical records that is being mandated these days from the insurance companies to get paid. You know, it takes it takes uh a crew of six workers in the office to see a patient that comes in just to have earwax removed. So uh when that's the case, the paperwork multiplies and our work multiplies.

SPEAKER_03:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

Um and before long, you you realize that you're doing more non-clinical work than you are seeing patients, which is no fun, you know, frankly. So the volume of work being excessive is one cause. Another cause is what we call a loss of autonomy. So, you know, again, I spent 13 years training for this. Um, I've spent another five, six years in private practice. I feel like I'm an expert in my field, yet I'm having to argue with someone at the insurance company as to why this patient needs this medication or this imaging study or whatnot. So you get to a place where you don't even feel like you're the one calling the shots with your own practice. Um that's that's very frustrating to have to deal with. And so um, and then coupled with just the the electronic medical record constantly new coding coming in, it's just there's just a lot of non-clinical work demands um that just pile up and it just takes the enjoyment out of it, at least it did for me.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I can absolutely see how you went to school to be a doctor, you know, you didn't go to school to be uh an admin, you didn't go to do paperwork all day. So yeah, I can absolutely see, and just the constant changing of regulations and rules and um, you know, what's what's expected of physicians um on paper, you know, is it it is constantly changing, and I'm sure that that's difficult to keep up with and just kind of you've got to keep your head on a swivel, and that can absolutely burn someone out very quickly.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Let me just say one last cause. And it's I don't really consider this a separate cause per se of burnout, but um the excessive work and the loss of autonomy that leads inevitably to what is called a moral injury, which is a s which in essence is um when you as a physician have to start compromising what you feel is best for your patient in order to get a treatment done or performed. Um, again, so you're arguing with the insurance company for this or that. Um, and let's say they don't they don't let you get this imaging study or prescribe this medication. Now you're having to do something that or prescribe something that you wouldn't ordinarily do. And that's when some kind of hopelessness starts to leak in. And you start thinking to yourself, you know, why why am I even doing, you know, I came in here to treat patients. I started this because I want to make patients better and foster a relationship with them. And um now I'm not even able to do what I think is best. And so when when that when that thought starts to enter your head, you are you are deep into your neck deep in burnout at that point, generally speaking.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's really good for you know, anyone who's having to prescribe or fight on their patient's behalf to know because I do that is something that I mean it's all over the internet. See a ton of TikTok videos of doctors, you know, on the phone with insurance companies, um, who are I think they're in a peer-to-peer, but the doctor who is, you know, um trying to give them information won't even reveal their name or their profession or their, you know, expertise. And so I can see how it's extremely frustrating for physicians to get um, you know, the proper care for their patients and to even fight for that care. Um, I can definitely see how that would be super frustrating.

SPEAKER_01:

Our nature is, you know, not only do we not ask for help, but we're not big complainers, you know, physicians in general and and most professionals. I, you know, I'm saying physicians, but this this pertains to other uh professions as well. Um, but we're just not big complainers. So we let things pile up and pile up and pile up internally. Um so not only are we not asking for help, but we're not not even complaining or venting that we don't generally have an outlet that we feel comfortable to do that with. Because, you know, let's be honest, the general public doesn't want to hear doctors complaining, you know, because the perception is that doctors are rich and wealthy and and and everything is perfect in their lives and everything. And so the last thing that it the general public wants is is their doctors complaining about not being paid enough or having to work too much, you know. And so that kind of leads to some isolation, um, yeah, so to speak. So again, it's kind of a per burnout is a is a perfect storm of of issues coming from every direction, it seems like.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's a great way to put it. It is a perfect storm of a bunch of moving parts, and you know, none of them good, but um, yeah, no, it's it's a lot of different things happening at one time that kind of the end result is the burnout.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

So at some point, um, you know, you kind of got caught up in the the burnout and the overwhelm, um, which led to addiction, and that addiction led to some regulatory consequences. Can you talk to us about what that process was like when you um began interacting with the Texas Medical Board?

SPEAKER_01:

Sure. Um, yes, and so this would this was in 2019.

SPEAKER_04:

Um quite a while after you had, this is 10 years after you've um, you know, gotten your your medical license, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Right, yes. I had this is my tenth year of practice, you're correct. Um, and so the the I I became uh a blip on the radar of the Texas Medical Board in two in 2019. Um and so, you know, I'll just say my deal in general, as an overall broad, my dealings with the Texas Medical Board was extremely negative. Um and you know, I realized that the Texas Medical Board is not does not exist to help Dr. Cortis. You know, in fact, if anything, they exist to protect the public from me, um, particularly if I was active in my addiction. And so I I realize that that's the case. I realize that they're not my friend. Um, I realize that sometimes that they can't, you know, they can be mean or short-tempered or whatnot. But, you know, two things can be true at the same time. They can protect the the public and they can also treat physicians with respect. So I I got involved with the Texas Medical Board in uh May of 2019, and you get a letter in the in the mail saying, you know, uh we have we have come to learn this and this and that, and they want you to write a letter kind of defending yourself. Um, and then they give you a date. I'm gonna go through the process here uh as if people have never dealt with it, just so they know. Um, but they give you a date that you're gonna have a preliminary hearing. In my case, that that was the following February, so that's nine months after the incident.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, after they, you know, they first sent me that letter. Now, sometimes they'll allow you to practice during that interim of time, and sometimes they they don't. Um, it kind of depends on what the offense is. Uh, they did not preclude me from practicing, but you've got this thing on your mind for nine months, knowing that you're gonna be meeting with the medical board and have no idea what the possible consequences are. You know, is it gonna be a slap on the wrist? Are they going to um suspend my medical license for 30 days, 90 days, a year, five years? Are they gonna revoke my medical license? You know, none of that stuff is known. Um, at least I didn't know it. Uh, and so there's a lot of stress, um, an enormous amount of stress involved once once you become tangled with the with the Texas Medical Board. And my malpractice insurance company uh did provide me with a list of attorneys that I could contact to help me through the process. So that was that was a big help.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, she was able to answer a lot of those uh questions that didn't that I didn't know the answers to early on, and yeah, and that and that kind of um helped with the anxiety regarding the the whole situation. But when it came time to actually go to the hearing and present my case, and I'm just gonna speak for myself here, um, and you can speak to this too. I'll I'll be curious to see what your your perspective is. But I felt that because I walked into this hearing with an attorney, it it created somewhat of an adversarial relationship in the room with the Texas Medical Board attorney on one side and myself on the other. That's that was just the way it felt to me. Um, and so when it came to you know presenting evidence on both sides, it's it's basically like a little mini trial. Um, you know, they're trying to show that I was unsafe to practice medicine, and I was trying to show that that wasn't the case.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, it it it doesn't the right thing and doing the right thing is not really the ultimate goal. At least that's what it felt like to me. To me, it felt like the Texas Medical Board attorney wanted to win and they wanted me to lose. And that that perception continued for the entirety of my dealings with the Texas Medical Board. Um, and so I'd be curious to to get your take on whether you think uh or or or if having an attorney creates this adversarial relationship between the medical board and a physician.

SPEAKER_04:

I would say to that, I would say um it really depends on the who the staff attorney would be or who the prosecutor from the board would be. I've seen um, you know, obviously they can't be too unfair, too obviously unfair, too obviously harsh. Um, but I can I can absolutely see both scenarios, right? I think I think both things there could be true that that there are definitely going to be some prosecutors and some staff attorneys who are just out there kind of on a power trip and are who are really looking to bring the hammer down on someone who necessarily doesn't um doesn't deserve that type of sanction or that type of reprimand. Um and then I think that there are also there are attorneys who have really good working relationships with those staff attorneys who can maybe change the staff attorney's perspective or with a certain argument get them to see something different. Um, but I will say that that TMB, the Texas Medical Board, is um is harsh. They can be more harsh than some of the other boards. I'm not an attorney, so I'm not in the courtroom fighting, but just based on you know some of the things that I've seen from um our Bertolino firm, that they are one of the harsher boards. And I would say either way, I would get an attorney because you just don't want to answer, like you said, answer a question wrong. Sometimes you get those, um you get that letter and you're so eager to sort of prove your innocence or prove um or give them, you know, the give them what they're looking for because you don't feel like you have anything to hide. And that can come back and really bite you. An attorney can look over that and say, hey, you don't need to include those records, you know. Oh, you've, you know, maybe this wasn't entered the correct way, but they don't need to see that because that's not what they're requesting. And so you've saved yourself a separate case, you know. Um, but that's what I would say is that a good attorney will be able to recognize if they are kind of bringing the hammer down on something that doesn't need to be um, you know, you don't need to be reprimanded so harshly for. I would just say to that, two things can be true, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I and I will second what you were saying. It it's vital um to have uh an attorney or someone with previous experience with the medical board in terms of, you know, because I was exactly as you described, you know, I was excited um to cooperate with them. And I was excited in the beginning to to show them everything and give them everything possible because um I, you know, I was thinking, you know, more information can only be helpful to me because I don't feel like I'm guilty of what they're accusing me of. And so if I was were to give uh a piece of advice to someone who has an impending meeting uh with the Texas Medical Board, it would be to get an attorney or uh or to speak with someone who has experience in the process, um, and just to realize from the very beginning that the Texas Medical Board is not your friend. They're not there to help you in this circumstance. Um, and you really do yourself a disservice if you don't realize that early on. Because, like you said, things that you do or not do, or things that you say, can really come back and bite you.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they can just be so misconstrued by the board, and you are left going, wait, that's not what I wanted you to think, or that's not what I meant. So, well, now that you've come out on the other side, Dr. Cortis, what is uh what does life look like today for you and your practice?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, um, and I'll say so uh I I became my relationship with the medical board began in May of 2019. Um they suspended my license uh for one year. Um, however, very unfortunately, this was this was when COVID occurred as well. And so COVID uh created some delay in things. Um the Texas Medical Board uh did not proceed efficiently, in my opinion. Um, so that one-year suspension, or what was supposed to be a one-year suspension, turned into three and a half years.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01:

Um and by this time I was not working, nor could I find work with a suspended medical license. And so um it wasn't until 2023 that I was able to go back to work. And um late 2022 is when my uh suspension was finally lifted in Texas. And so by that time I had moved to Louisiana. I'm from Louisiana, like I was saying. Um, and so I had to, you know, declare my issues with the Louisiana Medical Board. And the two kind of talked with each other, and I was excited to kind of start fresh. You know, I did my time, so to speak, in Texas. Um, I knew that Texas Medical Board had a reputation for being harsh, so I just assumed that Louisiana would would essentially take what Texas is saying. Hey, he's served his time, we've listed his suspension, he's now ready and safe to practice medicine again. Um, but unfortunately that did not happen. And Louisiana Medical Board put me on probation. And so uh when I worked for a year in Louisiana under probation, um, it created a lot of issues in terms of getting on insurance companies contracts and getting privileges at certain hospitals um andor surgery centers. Uh a lot of times they have bylaws where they they won't license uh someone or or get you a contract if you're if your license is suspended or if you're on probation. Um and so it created a lot of issues uh for me, and that only made the burnout even worse. You know, I thought going back to work was gonna fix all my fix all my problems, at least, you know, the the anxiety and the depression that had formed. Um, and it did, going back to work did help that. But because of the continued issues, um, I realized within six weeks that I really did not the passion that I had for clinical medicine wasn't there anymore.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I loved my patients, I loved fostering relationships with patients. Um, but after my one-year contract was up, uh the the venture capital firm that purchased our the practice that I was working for did not renew my contract because, again, they just took one look at the probation and and made that decision. And so uh that's when I decided to actually I had decided prior to that, but that's when I decided to retire uh, so to speak, from clinical medicine and start uh working with other physicians who are going through burnout.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, especially if they have consequences with the medical board or if they have any issues with substance abuse, which is very common. Um, but it was nice to kind of feel passionate about my professional life again.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, and so that's what I'm doing now.

SPEAKER_04:

That's awesome. That's great. I mean, gosh, how frustrating that must have been to wait and the COVID delays. And then I'm glad that you, I'm glad that you are kind of early on and going back to Madison, we're like, nope, this is not for me. I'm gonna do something else. I think that you've you really did yourself a um a good service there and and kind of some good self care. Um so you did, you know, you mentioned um, you know, a piece of advice earlier for physicians or healthcare workers. Anything else that you would um you would have to say to a physician or healthcare worker who's you know maybe facing burnout or addiction even?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I'll start. out by saying that you know there's not a lot of options. Um you know let's say that you're a doctor or a nurse or a healthcare worker who is who's experiencing burnout and you've come to realize that. And again, that doesn't usually happen until you're late in the process.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

And you've decided that you need to get help for um anxiety or depression that you're having, all the frustration and irritability. I've got an issue with the medical board. I've been drinking a lot lately. You know those are all these are all issues that could that could pop up. And there there isn't any one place to go for that. Now I would recommend seeing a psychiatrist for formal diagnoses like anxiety or depression. But again doctors aren't real aren't real excited about doing that because the perception is that they could backfire that could backfire for them. There are physicians who who are doing what I do which is to treat burnout via via Zoom and essentially I'm my job is to change the perception and the perspective of doctors and change the way that they feel about reality as opposed to trying to change their life circumstance because I can't do that. And so you know I'll just just tell the audience that my you know I you can find me at the burnoutdoc.com and then my website has lots of resources about uh symptoms of burnout and and treatment options and whatnot but that would be the way to find to find me specifically and I think it heading into the future there are going to be more options. There are going to be more people treating burnout. In fact I think that the a mandate will probably be coming within the next three to five years for large hospital conglomerations to you know they're going to be required to have someone on staff to both identify when burnout is occurring and treat it. So uh hopefully more options are coming in the future.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah hope so hope so I know it's something that um has been going on for a while and that just keeps increasing. So yeah hopefully we see something change here in the next couple of years. Well Dr. Cortes thank you very much for joining me today. Thanks for sharing your story with us and hopefully inspiring some other physicians to either recognize burnout or maybe they can recognize it um you know in someone else but um just kind of help everybody take care of each other you know yeah thank you so much for having me to our listeners if you or someone you know is facing addiction burnout or a licensing issue please remember that you're not alone there are many resources to help. For more resources to prevent burnout check Dr. Cortis's physician coaching resources linked in our description below don't forget to subscribe like and share Know Your Regulator for more conversations that protect your license and empower your career. Until next time stay inspired and continue engaging with your regulatory agency.

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