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Love Island Recap S8 Ep 6-10w/ Sunny Gray
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The Villa gets messy as new bomb shells enter and sit things up. Brigette and Toni give their takes on week 2
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Welcome back to another episode of Your Point of View Guys. I'm your host, Bridget, better known as IMD Bridget on socials. And as you guys know, my guest Tony is here, aka I am Sunny Gray on TikTok. Y'all, I almost did not do the last episode. I almost did not edit that as well as not be able to do this because my computer died. But luckily, since Tony lives with me, I was able to do something. So round of applause for Tony.
SPEAKER_01How did we do it today, Tony? Sorry. I just have the giggles. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to be of assistance to get my girl back and running. Love that.
SPEAKER_00Yes, thank God y'all can't really see me. I just plopped this wig on my head and like rolled my face with some makeup to look decent for the clippings. You always look good. Thank you. So to you. So do you. Yes, it's been a long week, and luckily we won't be spending a long ass two hours on this podcast episode. If you do prefer longer episodes, my bad. But last one definitely took a minute, but I don't think we have as much to go through because this week wasn't as long. But there is a lot that happened on Love Island this week. We had another dumping and everything. We are recording on a Saturday instead of a Sunday, just so I could put this out on Monday and be more up to date with everything versus last week. I feel like Tuesdays are a little bit too far out in the week to put it out. But we are gonna get right into it and talk about episode six. I barely put anything down. But what did you think about overall this week of Love Island?
SPEAKER_01Well, you know what? I gave it a solid eight out of ten. I there were certain episodes that I was like, oh, this is a really good episode. I'm like, okay, I'm feeling this. So I enjoy this week thoroughly.
SPEAKER_00I I truly love it. What about you? I'm starting to get annoyed with production because I feel like we're missing a lot. It's like, I feel like these episodes are good, but we're missing so much. You catch these little comments that Islanders make about something that happened that we didn't see. So that's kind of bugging me. But for the most part, I do really enjoy these episodes as well. I think we are still getting a good amount of drama, but I feel like there's a whole other side to this villa that we're not seeing. And I think other people are starting to feel that way too. So I'm starting to see comments about why are we missing this? Why did we not see Trinity get pied in a challenge this week? Stuff like that. But other than that, yeah, no, the cast is very good, very solid.
SPEAKER_01Very solid. I I do agree. Sometimes when I watch an episode, I like to go on social media and see what people are saying. And nine times out of ten, everybody's saying the same thing that I'm saying. And you know, we have our little our group chat where we debrief, so yeah. So we're gonna start off a little bit with episode six. Sometimes, I think one of my first notes I have like is Anaya and Casey at times, not all the time, they give me friend vibes. And you know what? That's not bad because most relationships start up as a friendship, so it really wasn't as bad as I thought. And this is also going from episode five where we were seeing like the challenge for the bed scene. So that kind of goes over to that scene where we see a lot of things that were happening for this episode. For example, when Sincere was talking to Zach, I think in one of the episodes prior to, where he was saying, actually, I think it was Anaya, where he said, Oh, my friend said, you know, you gotta get the girl to like you more than you like them. And I'm just like, fuck that. Like, no, I want to have an even life. This episode, his friends was probably sitting there like, This is the shit that we're telling you about. This is the shit that we're telling you about.
SPEAKER_00No, any girl would say it's the opposite. A man needs to like you more than you like them because they'd be the first one to do some crazy fuck shit if they don't respect you, especially if they don't respect you. But if they if they know they can get away with certain things and you'll keep accepting them back, they'll try and do it. So they I swear they want to be the new women so badly.
SPEAKER_01I'm telling you, the sassy man apocalypse is still upon us, so we gotta be careful, ladies. But in this episode, well, kiss going back between Corbin and Sincere, have your fun, girl. This is what challenges are supposed to be for. Like, yes, fun, it's a way of exploring without exploring. But when it comes to a point where you know what your what you're who your man is, right? And the kiss going back and forth was a little bit, a little bit much. And I was just like, okay, maybe once where you'd just be like, mm-kay, trying to test it out, and then you go back. I was like, okay, but to continuously do it, but then you guys don't have no self-respect for yourself. I guess it's to not embarrass themselves because you kept letting her do it.
SPEAKER_00So where's the complaint? I was thinking the same thing, but because they have to abide by the rules, Ariana said you cannot tell them who you are. So either way, they had to stay quiet. So I can't remember if we explained it last time, but basically, this challenge is they're all in this huge white bed, like I don't know, shack-sized bed. And it's completely white, they're supposed to have different paints on them. This is how they know which girl is which. They have all have different colors. So they're supposed to find their man blindfolded, and uh, they're basically crawling around and feeling around. And for some reason, since Trinity went first, she decided she gone. I mean, it is a challenge, so you should be kissing people. You didn't necessarily put that in the instructions. They just said you have to figure out who your man is. You can do that by kissing, you can do that by touching, and Melanie decided to do that by all the above. She did not take the uh the very easy, prude way out of it. She was like, I'm gonna have me some fun. So when she got to sincere, mind you, Sincere is, I believe everybody's saying he's about 5'10, and Corbin is like 6'3, 6'4. So, yeah, that alone you could tell by touching somebody's legs, like how long it is. You can do that, you could touch their beards because their beards are different, and most importantly, you can touch that man's head because he has a full head of hair. And the longest hair in the leg. He has the what's this is uh disingenuous when that hair down, so we know it's now. No, that is his internet has dubbed the sincere disingenuous because all he does is lie. We haven't gotten to that part yet, but Lord, is it knowing that it's only been a couple episodes that sold the new bombshell has been, and all this man has done is lie.
SPEAKER_01But no, just just lie, lie. But when he had his hair up in the challenge, he was sincere. So I he was really upset. And even in that challenge, we're watching multiple girls go up go throughout the guys and everything. We even the props to Anaya and Kata, they were the only two that didn't kiss anybody. Everybody was giving props to Anaya alone because I don't think anybody saw Kata doing the same thing because at that time the bombshells were kissing the guys between the kisses when the girls were doing it. I, if if I was a bombshell, that would that would have been nerve-wracking.
SPEAKER_00That would make me very uncomfortable. So honestly, hats off to Jen and Soul because they had to be really sneaky, even though I think some of the girls sensed if there was somebody else there, yeah, they did pretty good because they didn't really 100% know until after. And Melanie being the one to know that there was an extra color paint before Ariana even said there were bombshells. Melanie does not play. Sincere, he, if they stay together, he's in for a wild ride. Because for somebody who is a compulsive liar, and for another person who's is literally um who is it, Inspector Gadget? She was the FBI agent.
SPEAKER_01We gotta put her into work, she gotta stop Mollin and get in that get in the feel. She's the type of friend that you go out to reach out for to find some information, like, hey, I miss what.
SPEAKER_00I haven't seen anything like that. She was very observant. She said, uh no, something ain't right. Literally. Even though this she had the audacity to do that after she went back and forth, back and forth, kissing between Corbin and Sincere. And at this time, I did feel bad for Sincere, because I'm like, that's mad disrespectful. But now I'm like, oh girl. Yeah, like she gotta get them before they get you.
SPEAKER_01She had me at the first. I was like, Come on, Melanie, come on, girl. I just was feeling for her. But then as the episode progressed, I was like, you know what? Lick his ass again.
SPEAKER_00Watch it again. Watch it for me. No, literally. Okay. So this is how it went afterwards. Sincere told Melanie he felt disrespected, and she's like, Oh, I really messed up. And Melanie was trying to tell the rest of the gang, like, oh, I didn't know it was him. I've never felt on Corbin. When people were like, Y'all literally kissed when he, you know, when you first met him. That was the first thing that they did in another challenge. So you absolutely felt on Corbin, and you don't need to feel on Corbin to know that it's not your man. So even if you that was your first time, it's just nobody was buying it. And she was like, Yeah, I was doing too much. Like you can see, she was like trying to give it up. But for the longest time, her story was, I didn't know that it was not sincere. Which is embarrassing because everybody else got their man on the first uh guest.
SPEAKER_01So you know, either way, that's her story, and she's gonna stick to it because she has stuck to that shit through the entire all the way up to episode nine that she did not know. And you know what? If the lie, if you f if you believe the lie, everybody else would believe it too.
SPEAKER_00Not in that case, because who was it, KZ? Who's like now, Mel, I love you, but like, come on, because it's who is that dumb? Like at this point, it's less men that you had to choose from because you know, people are already tied. Once you found your man, you stayed on the bed tied to him, so that makes it easier for people to be like, wait, no, there's a girl. And didn't she kiss Trinity or was it Trinity that's Trinity?
SPEAKER_01She kissed Trinity as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she was just having herself a good old time.
SPEAKER_01Well, she's uh from records, they said she was she's bisexual.
SPEAKER_00I was like, Okay, I didn't know that. News to me. That is news to me.
SPEAKER_01Interwebs is saying, don't know how true that is. That's what interwebs is saying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's the streets, but that was Sincere's golden card to go on and pull the bombshell and try to move on. And I was like, okay, at first when he pulled uh soul over to wherever they were, soul ties or wherever the hell they went, and they kissed, and he didn't tell Melanie right away, I really didn't feel bad. I was like, I don't feel bad for him because the last time he told her about just talking to Kata, she had a grudge against Keda for like two episodes. So I could understand not telling her initially, but then when he kept lying, like if somebody asks you something point blank, period, you have to tell them the truth at that point. It's one thing to not say anything, it's another thing to just straight up blatch at their face.
SPEAKER_01You know, that's just sincere. I mean, as as episode six goes on, it just got from bad to worse. But hey, but also a lot of stuff that happened in that episode as well was now that we had two bombshows that came in was Soul, and then we also have Jen as well, which surprisingly Brides know as far as his modeling campaign went. And then the scene with Caleb, not only not only with the issue of her going back and forth kissing uh Sincere and Corbin, they said my girl Melanie saw Caleb's toe with screaming her head off. At one point in the episode she was screaming. I said, Does she know this man? What's going on? I was so confused because I didn't even see his torso yet, and she was screaming, like basically flip pillow fighting with Kenzie. They had to tell her again, this is the second time now they have told her, like, sit back. Because Trinity was like, girl, Cada want to see too, because we're all lined up, and you know, shout out to Caleb because while everybody else was blindfolded, he had to do his shit with all those eyes on him, then kissing all the girls, which I was just so in front of their man, it was just so awkward. My girl Kata took that opportunity to straddle her legs around this man in front of Zach. Now, was it a bit much? Yes. Was Zach doing too much? I think he just wanted a reason just to have a hissy fit.
SPEAKER_00He really did. It was really not that serious. Like she just had herself a little fun. It was a little excessive, but at the end of the day, it's supposed to be a challenge. And it sucks that you were handcuffed next to me, but you were just kissing a girl as well. I was just like, damn, these girls do not give a rat's ass uh what they do in front of these men. But honestly, they deserve it because at the drop of the hat, they'll turn on you as well and change um who they're putting their energy into, i.e. sincere, as he did in the rest of the episode, for example. But yeah, no, Zach went from like wanting to be closed off or at least feeling really intensely enough to say that to like backpedaling. I feel like because of that.
SPEAKER_01That goes on to like episode seven now when he was having a conversation. Because even when the bomb shows were uh talking to him and stuff, he he just could not let go the I think it's carried on for two episodes that Caleb rapped her. He's I think he's gonna go into next week still talking about Kayla rapporter her little girl damn Caleb. And I was just like, let it, I was like Zach, let it go. He even I think she was like trying to apologize to him. And one thing about Zach and this romance with Bryce, he's gonna find every reason to bring his man up. I think Cada was having a conversation with him and she like tried to touch his hair. He's like, Oh, my hair is not like Bryce. But yeah, what do Bryce have to do with it? Like, just tell that girl, first of all, she's she's biracial, she knows what a curly hair routine is, she knows how serious the curls get, right? Please, this is why people having these allegations against you. Let's let's let's wrap it up quickly. And throughout the episode, I just want to mention shout out to Gabriel for his first confessional because we're six episodes in and he finally got one, and he came in episode two.
SPEAKER_00Which was that was the first and last time that that man got a confessional. Speaking of, well, not even speaking of, you you were speaking about um Anaya earlier, and I just want to talk about how much I don't like Corbin for a hot second. Corbin, he is what the internet said, he's like a robot, he has one setting, and it's can I get a kiss? And it doesn't matter how many times people say no or are very awkward about it, he's gonna ask every single time if it's a girl that he likes, but let Anaya in the challenge on the bed touch him, and he makes this very like weird, uncomfortable, disgusted face, in my humble opinion, and the internet's opinion as well. I caught it, but I was like, maybe I'm tripping. But you know, like when you just watch an episode, you just watch on and then you see it again, and then that's how you know you weren't crazy because somebody else clocked it to you. But a lot of people said that, like, oh, it's giving very much extreme colorists from a man that is also black. It's really, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh Corbin Chat GBT. You know, I tell you about these damn Jamaicans from Miami that are men. It was it was a really hard watch to see because when I I I'm kind of oblivious to certain stuff because sometimes I I watch an episode and I see what everybody else sees, and then I go back. I was like, no. But once I kept watching it, I was like, yeah, his face was a little, a little off putting and scrunched up at a time. But this is the same man that be having conversation with Kenzie about the whole kinky conversation. I said, what else do Kenzie and them talk about? Before I even go through that, uh, that whole bed scene as well, right? Production must have got their money up. Because the Nickelandria song drew in the bed scene. I was like, wait, what is is this hardcore? Is this the the nickel anthem?
SPEAKER_00Actually, I'm sad they use that because that was a it's a sacred song for us. Don't use that on a weird ass freaky through scene. Like, no, save that for something. Actually, don't ever use it again. It's a one-time use. Use the last season for an iconic moment, and you don't use that again.
SPEAKER_01Somebody said they need to be fired for that. They got that damn budget up. But that was that was that's basically the the the whole episode six right there, with which is just coming off of the the challenge and me just getting upset with Melanie at one point. I was like, girl, stop, okay, like you're doing too much. And I think that was just like the bed scene that was driving me.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, it was pretty much just a continuance, and then I don't know how far we got into it, but yeah, Sincere just began his bucket of lies. And the thing is, Soul got pretty heavy with him in the conversation pretty quickly, talking about like death and all this other stuff. So he's not only her in one person doing what he's doing by not being honest, he's her in two people because he's making it seem like he's more open than he actually is. Because after he kisses Soul multiple times, mind you, Melanie asks, and then he says yes, and then she's just like, Okay, well, I'm gonna, you know, explore and stuff too. And she you can see in her face she's like really upset, and he's like, But I still want us to work out, and I still see things with you after the villa, and she's like, Do you see yourself with her? And I mean, this is probably true, but he was like, I just had a conversation, like one or two conversations with her, I can't really say, but to make it seem like oh, you're my priority, but at the same time to go pull somebody and talk to them multiple times and kiss them multiple times when you're really wanting to just be with the one person, or who even knows what he wants? Because he is so all over the place and continuously lying that the audience don't even know what the end game is, because it's like he's forgetting the cameras are there. You're recorded 24-7.
SPEAKER_01I think we're just seeing that since you're in his natural habitat, and this is this is probably what happens in his day-to-day life because as we move into episode seven, right? His whole his whole thing that he brought over was the disrespect. And as I as I was getting him with the disrespect, I understand, and he's uh talking to he was having a group discussion because this is after the whole thing that happened with the bed scene now, and he's he's talking, and Kata is also saying, like, yeah, like I saw how Melanie was acting and whatever. Even and and also we talk about Anaya. I just want to switch up gears really quick. We talk about Anaya. I told I caught her a messenger pigeon last week. But we've gotta really we've gotta really keep an eye out for Kata because there is a scene where Kata was chatting with the boys about what Melanie did, and then we see her next clip talking with Melanie and saying, Yeah, because Sincere said I was like, wait. About what Melanie did? Yeah, about what Melanie did. I was like, Kata, you can't chat shit with it.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01We uh we haven't got to that yet. That sounds like wait, what episode? Okay, yeah. This was episode seven. So Kata, you can't chat shit with the boys and go back and snitch on Sincere. So I understand where he was um coming from with the whole situation, and I I completely get him. At the time I would feel disrespected as well, but yeah, over time he proved why that girl theory was right. Correct, her gut was correct. We're no matter how crazy we are, our gut is always correct. I will say that. Now that we're already into episode seven, as we're we're coming down off the scene now, because the beds this is still how a Love Island does it. So a lot of these scenes like transition to each other a little bit because they're cutting in between dates. Because now Kenzie was so damn excited about Caleb and this whole cowboy thing. Where I was like, okay, Kenzie, we we get it. You love a good cowboy, but I could have sworn on the first episode you said you love dark features. So maybe I'm wrong.
SPEAKER_00Maybe this is I mean you could like more than one thing too. So in Kenzie's defense, she could be like, I love dark features, but also love her cowboy in any shape or form. Because remember, isn't Taylor a cowboy? Please.
SPEAKER_01Taylor from season seven, Taylor's a lot of things, you know, and also one thing about Casey as well, he plays too damn much. Casey played too damn much. There's a time and a place to play, and this is why people be calling this poor man performative, because you do stuff like have an uplifting speech, and then a bombshell that walks in that supposedly because round circle, he told the boys that soul looks just like his ex. And then out your mouth when Ariana said, Oh, how do you feel, Casey? Bless paused for a long pause and and looked at Anaya and was like, with my girl, and she's she was not having it. She was like, No. Casey, you play too much.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, Yeah, she took that a little bit harder than I thought she was going to. But also, it is two new girls that you don't know, and you don't know if they're interested in him, and for that to be the first thing that he says out of his mouth, I do get it. Because you were just telling me I'm the blueprint and hyping me up. And as soon as two girls come in, so I completely get where you know she's coming from with that. And she nipped that in the butt. She's like, Don't play like that, basically.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she really took it to heart because when they went off to the the doc to talk about it, she was really crying. I was like, Oh my god, I'm please girl. Yeah, she was getting played too much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, soon getting low terrier, and he was like, Whoops. And I feel like he looked and saw, and he was like, Okay, yeah, I went too far with that. Like, I can't joke with her like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and he was you know what? Shout out to him for being honest because he was like, I I yeah, I fuck with you heavy, but I do think she's attracted. I was like, Oh my god, not while she's crying, maybe in a a different day, a different conversation. But at least he at least he told her that if he's gonna talk to her, he's obviously gonna give her a chance by talking to her, which I haven't seen yet. If though you know production, they always be cutting around stuff that should be important, but then again, it's being edited within a turnaround time of 24 hours. So I I'll be giving him you know, I'll be giving him slack.
SPEAKER_00But we do see the boys around the round table this time talking amongst themselves, and they was like, What the for Anaya, didn't she ask him if he she if he found Sol attractive? He does, he did mention it. That's what I said. No, did she ask him directly that or he just said it?
SPEAKER_01Because I feel like she No, I think she asked him if he if he was going to talk to her. And he said, Yes, I'm gonna talk to her because whatever, I find her attractive. So he up he brought up that information himself and said, If I if I talk to her, I'm going to talk to her to give her a chance. And yes, I do find her uh attractive.
SPEAKER_00So she did kind of walk herself into that one, so you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_01And then you see, and then around this time as well, you see around like a round table where the boys are talking, and they were not fucking with the whole Melanie situation because even Corbin was like, Um, I think it was the bombshell Caleb that was talking to them, and he was like, Yeah, the girl that was screaming, that's his. Embarrassing. So that's his. He was like, the girl, you know who his voice the girl that's screaming, that's his. Like Jen was like, Yeah, I did hear. I did hear. Yeah, he was going in. I was like, Corbin, why did you have to say that? And I think that was also around the same time where we're seeing Bea and Trinity walk with Jenna well, not just Jen, but also soul around the villa showing them around.
SPEAKER_02I was like, Oh, Trinity's so mature. I love that.
SPEAKER_00She knows how to keep her people closed that she needs to.
SPEAKER_01And that's how you do it. I think Trinity is like the most level-headed one in that damn villa. And that's a shame to say because she's 22. So shout out to her and her uh her maturity. And now we have the the bombshells talking, and this is where Zach came in with the closed off situation. I was like, close off, Zach.
SPEAKER_00It's like a couple of days, and everybody is really locked in, which is something that is mentioned by Soul at a later point in the week. It's just like I understand being loyal and stuff and putting your efforts into one person, but you guys are friend zoning a lot of people very quickly. Like you haven't even really given people a chance. I think it's just because nobody wants to step on the other person's toes in doing that. But that's what y'all there for. And I know everybody bonds and everything, but it's very boring. And that's exactly why they let America vote. And I feel like they let us vote earlier this season because I feel like that didn't happen until like, or maybe it was the same amount of time. Wasn't it about a week, week and a half in when we got the vote before?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so it it sometimes have gone into like a a uh two weeks in where they let us at least vote and have like our our our bottom pick, but No, I mean for like the new bombshell one.
SPEAKER_00Like, didn't wasn't it further on in the season where we got to split up um Huda and Jeremiah last season?
SPEAKER_01I think around the same time.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so dang. So yeah, they said we gotta use the same playbook as last season because y'all need something else to go on in this villa. And shake up they did as we get to it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, yeah, they did they did shake it up. And then this is where like also in the same scene as well, because this is like the nighttime scene where they have soul, I think Soul actually pulled Sincere in front of Melanie. I was like, oh wow, we've been here like wow, love your work. Uh because they were like, Oh, you can't just bring anybody to uh to to Soul Times. No, actually, this is a daytime because they kissed me the first time in the daytime. Sorry, they were like, Oh, you can't just bring anybody to to Soul Times. I'm like, I didn't know there was a rule for this, but wait, wasn't that Gabriel that took somebody soul ties? I think it was him. I think well, she pulled somebody because I remember I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_00So um Soul and Satyr, the first time they really talk is in that say less area, I think. And then Gabriel pulled. Yeah, she was on a mission because she pulled two people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she she went to Soul Ties, yeah, because this I I'm also trying to like remember because she she brought him to Soul ties and then kissed. And I I definitely have soul is funny, she is not feeling a man, because I said I wouldn't call Hispanic people freaky anymore. I call them people, and she started tasting pheromones. I was like, she's trying to say his breast, she's a star when she said I could taste his pheromone. I'm like, damn, I'm gonna start saying that with a man's breaststing. I was like, I said they said Gabriel. And that's how you want to say a man's breaststink, but my gosh. She's like, Ew. It's a spiritual thing. I was like, whatever, spiritually, his breaststing. I don't care what nobody was saying. And that in that, and then also that was like the same scene that she that's what you were talking about, where she took uh sincere to say less. And I say that that kiss was a little juicy.
SPEAKER_00I was like, Yeah, you could tell uh her nor Gabriel was feeling that um kiss, which is good. So she moved on to Sincere, and they definitely have chemistry. I feel like I do feel like Sincere does a lot of mirroring when he speaks to soul. I feel like he's more like, yeah, or whatever, back to her. Because I'm not hearing him say a lot of deep stuff to her. She's basically carrying the conversations, which we as women have realized if you stop talking and you just let the man talk, a lot of the time they have nothing to say, or they're not very interesting. And Sincere is giving very much that.
SPEAKER_01I mean, his name is Sincere's, it's not death. Shut up. His name is Sincere.
SPEAKER_03The law his name is disingenuous. The law took me out because we both looked at each other like it took me a minute to be like, oh, she's joking.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry, y'all. It's it's been a long day. I'm tired.
SPEAKER_03And I was like, this girl just made a joke. He made it funny.
SPEAKER_01No, but now, you know what I've also realized that at one point, I I don't want it to happen, but during episode seven, I was like, uh Sincere and Casey need to switch partners because the way Sincere has a more in-depth conversation with Anaya than he does with his own partners, I was like, just switch, guys, just switch. Because when Sincere talks to Anaya, he he actually talks, like he actually has a voice, he actually has opinions and feelings, and he talks about talks to her about how he feels and everything while K C keeps Melanie grounded because he G-checking her shit when she was like, I didn't really know. He's like, Now Mel.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Who are you playing?
SPEAKER_00That's probably because they're just you know on a friendly level, but they're really just kind of like venting about their partners. It's I don't really think they're really saying a lot about themselves still, because that's an easier thing to do than to open up. Because I feel like a lot of the men are very guarded. Because I'm trying to think, like, I'm not seeing a lot of deep conversations from anybody, to be honest. It's very much surface level. Like when Kata said that Zach was her number one and will be for the foreseeable future. I can't tell you one deep conversation they have had.
SPEAKER_01So hey, if it's not about one direction or Taylor Swift, I think we'll have more deep a conversation with God damn Jen than he does with Jen called saying he looked like uh Zayn Malik.
SPEAKER_00She he's about to send her a cease and desist for that one. Because don't like Zach don't look like no damn Zayn Alex. It's the eyes, it's the eye color.
SPEAKER_01Zach eyes are it's the fact that they have dark hair and they have brown eyes, and like brown eyes, right? Zach eyes are like extremely, extremely beautiful. At one point I was like, Melanie and Keda are the same people. I don't know what they did, but in this episode I wrote that they were the same people. And in this in this episode is when to Cyr started to get his lick back. I think the embarrassment caught up with him because everybody saw it, so he decided to get his lit back. And I was like, oh, you know. So go get your man. But this is this is also the episode where messenger pigeon, Anaya, right? Messenger Pigeon. She is she is she is talking to Sincere. My issue is if I say to somebody, do not tell this person, and this is this is rule one for anybody, never never give out your source. Even with my ex-boyfriend up to this day, he don't know that his well now he knows. Chris, your homeboy told me that's working on me. So if he's ever listened to this podcast, it's him. But this is but the thing about it, he told her because this is how Anaya found out the information that soul looked like one of Casey's ex. Because my man loved with my pixie cut. And sincere's like, Don't tell Casey that I said this. Don't tell Casey as soon. You don't even think Anaya's ass hit the chair, and she's like, Well, Sincere said, I almost wanted to turn from that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's a Ricky mistake. Like, you don't do stuff like that. I I know she's young, she's 23, but by 23, I never reveal my sources. You know why? Because I want to keep getting information, and you're not gonna get that if you get that person in trouble. Or Casey is not gonna feel like he could tell Sincere stuff because he's gonna run and tell Melanie. Because mind you, he said Sola looks like his ex, you know, minus the pixie cut. Like, I guess she got long hair or whatever. But that doesn't mean like, oh, I'm gonna leave you to be with her. She just reminded me of that. And that ex could be the worst person on the planet. You know what I'm saying? I may not want to be but with somebody that looked like her.
SPEAKER_01Right. Why would I want to be with a a docker? And it still doesn't take away from the fact that everything that he said prior to her being like the blueprint and everything and whatever. So it it it doesn't take that away from them. And this is the same episode now that we're transitioning, why we're winding down an episode now where my man, uh my passionate man Gabe, took uh Jen into say less and they're having a conversation and in Portuguese. I was like, I know he's not telling her in Portuguese or in Dominum Bay, so I think that's Spanish instead of Portuguese, but so uh give me a kiss in in Spanish, like you beautiful and smile and give me a kiss. And she's all like I was like, damn, is Spanish really that hard? Because she was struggling, and they were talking, and she's like, What does that say? And I was like, girl, this is like the most corniest move. And then I have to remember, these people are young because she's she is 23. And you're bored, right? It's like this 23-year-old is like 23-year-old, this 26-year-old that's only three years older than her, is just putting on this corny ass move. He's like beautiful and smiling, give me a kiss, and then they kiss, and I was like, huh.
SPEAKER_00She's just bored, that's all. You give she don't have no phone, nobody else to talk to. This is riveting conversation. That's why they're getting confused. That is, they think it's riveting conversation that they're having, but it's surface level. That's because you're bored and you have nothing else to do.
SPEAKER_01And this is jumping it a little bit. No wonder why she was confused. She was when Ariana was like, Do you know why they picked you and gave you? She's like, I have no clue. And I was like, that's how you know that was the last kiss and the last conversation they had after that. Because that girl had no problem. But who else could she would she have thought of?
SPEAKER_03Because we didn't see her by anybody else. She's slow.
SPEAKER_02I cannot.
SPEAKER_03But you know what?
SPEAKER_01Throughout that in episode, I think my favorite couple of the episode, Sue me, was Caleb and Kenzie.
SPEAKER_00They were the only ones that were somewhat on the same page. That's probably why. Because they were talking about the future. But with that, they wouldn't even be my favorite because she just jumped right back with um Corbin of all people.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, yeah, you know what? I was like, this is America. This is the Americas. This is what my uh my my palm color people were fighting for. I was like, yeah, this is your representation right here. Good old southern country love. Because that entire conversation and her plain in his hair, I was like, oh, so cute. How is anybody not finding this adorable? But I understand why you're not finding it adorable because we're gonna have I'm gonna say it, because it's gonna be covered in the next episode. Kenzie be having outside thoughts, and I hate a person with the outside thoughts because they're different from thoughts. You can't tell a man, I was kissing this person and I was thinking about you, Kenzie.
SPEAKER_00Right. Because what if that ends up back with that person? You can't say stuff like that out loud. And she also's like, Oh, I've never had a roster before. Why would you say that?
SPEAKER_01Girl, it's yeah, you just say you don't got no niggas. I uh no wonder why you was fighting over Zach. Literally. I was so like, girl, Caleb is your man. And that was the first and last time I seen Caleb throw out the scene.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like if she doesn't give him any play, I don't think anybody else will. And I think he'll be going home as soon as he got like as fast as he got there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Caleb is probably gonna have to need him a Latina or another blonde because he's got nothing that's less than a 613. For all my people that don't know, that's blonde. Okay, and then we have not the whole villa against Melanie and Sincere, except for the messenger Pridge, because they were having like a round table talk, and everybody plus Bea was like, nah, they're not good for each other. And Anaya was like, Oh my god, for guys, really? You don't see nothing together?
SPEAKER_00Everybody was like, The delusional pact is not working because the only person not delusional is Bea, but she does have moments where herself and Gabrielle, but we're not seeing everything. But to say that you think it would work outside when they're already struggling and it's only been a couple days is crazy.
SPEAKER_01That's gonna be a disaster on the outside, which is funny because she was like their biggest supporter, and then as the episode goes on, this is jumping a little bit. She uh is like, You guys are so toxic and whatever. And then she has another confessional about them being toxic. It's to the point that they were in um they were in bed, and Casey would have to tell her, like, worry about us, worry about your own couple. I'm like, Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yes, when he said that, I was like, please do, because I'm tired of y'all edits being therapists. Like, please worry about your man and just let that be.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so this episode seven, that was like the dwindling down, and we still have sincere only telling Melanie about one kiss and not be uh the other kiss that happened in uh things easy speakeasy, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Speak easy. Oh my god, the speakeasy and sincere, yeah.
SPEAKER_01They were on uh Twitter saying how Soul was given uh search chick energy when she ran out, and this was the time that my godsesser and I figured out that when they sat on the couch, the door is facing the couch. If anybody doesn't know the speakeasy, when you walk into speakeasy, the couch is right in front of them. So when they when Soul and uh Sincere walked into the Speakeasy, he actually closed the door behind him because we were trying to figure out for the longest time who closed the door. Another episode showed that like he did close the door because he's always closing the door when you walk in there with sneaky ass. Um he walked in and closed the door behind him as they were sitting down talking, as Melanie was cracking it, they definitely knew someone was coming because the way she got up and the timing of that kiss, because production is trying to make it seem like she came in at the same time that kiss was happening, but what was really happening is that we see soul get up as she was getting up and coming off of him. I think she heard the steps of somebody coming, and that's when the door opened up and they both like walked past each other. So she's yeah, she flew out of there. I was like, girl, Melanie, you're Hispanic, you've been having dreams about people with green hair, and we see Soul with a damn green do-rag the next uh next scene coming in to still your man. You should have had the woman's intuition told you that they were kissing and that shit. But she did ask him, he did tell her, but he didn't tell her about the kiss from earlier that day in Say Less. So that's the entire episode.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, he he definitely just made it seem like Soul was the one that asked when it was kind of like a mutual thing. He didn't outright ask. Like, I think she said something like wanting to kiss you again because they kissed in a challenge. And he was like, Oh, you mean right now?
SPEAKER_02Till damn.
SPEAKER_00I cannot with these men and there's zero play play. Uh then immediately kissed her after and would have continued to do that.
SPEAKER_01All right, so now we are into episode eight. The app actually crashed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because you try to for we're supposed to split up the couples and put three people with bombshells uh through the vote, and apparently a million more than people voted for the finale of season seven voted for this. So I don't know how many people are watching Love Island, but that's a crazy number of people to be voting.
SPEAKER_01For the app to crash, uh that was actually crazy. I was like, wow. I mean, I didn't vote, but you know, I guess I get it.
SPEAKER_00Because I love to make my voice heard. I do. You're not gonna give me a little bit of power, and I'm not gonna use it. That's crazy. Yeah. And then also, everybody should be voting for their their elected officials as well. Y'all are on those offices, get out there and vote. Yeah, make your voice heard. Get some education first, then make your voice heard. But no, I definitely voted. My vote was Corbin with Jen and Sincere with Soul and oh yeah, Kenzie with Cor Caleb. Too many C's, too many C noises. So yeah, that was my vote.
SPEAKER_01It didn't exactly go that way, but I for my prediction, I if I was to vote, I said that I would do Caleb or Kenzie. Soul was sincere. If the black community wanted to prove that Casey was performative, just to sh to prove a point, they would put Casey, but overall they were gonna put him with uh Soul was sincere, and then Jen would would be with Gabriel. Uh, because she we didn't see her talk with anybody else but him. Um Soul with Casey?
SPEAKER_00No, Jen with Gabriel. But no, you said if the if the black community wanted to prove that Casey was performative.
SPEAKER_01So I said soul with sincere, but if the black community wanted to show that Casey was performative, they were gonna put him soul with Casey, but overall it's gonna be soul and sincere. My bad you said something else. And then Jen would be with Gabriel because we didn't see her talk about anybody else and who else was she was supposed to go with. So I see a couple people trying to put over Corbin. I was like, what? I want him out, but and I want her dumped too. So I really didn't care who she was coupled up with, but whatever we weren't gonna get rid of him.
SPEAKER_00And if we had at least had success in that, then he might be one step closer to getting the hell out of my visa. But the reason why people didn't try to do that thing with Casey and Soul is one, they barely talked in the edit. It was very, very clear that producers wanted Sincere and Soul to be together because they wanted a reaction out of Melanie, or to just maybe not get a reaction that moment, but over the next series of episodes, see what she does because they're no longer together.
SPEAKER_01Let me ask you a question, right? Now that we know that it was a dumping, right? Yeah. If uh Anaya and Bea was at the bottom, who you think he would have picked?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I think Corbin would have chosen Bea. He does not want Anaya. No, no shade. I'm not laughing at Anaya. It's just like I'm not laughing at Anaya, but I was like, how far would his colorism go? It would have gone astronomical because I think he would have been able to get there with Bea at least in in a way where it wouldn't have because didn't she kiss him when they were doing the thing, or did she never make her way over to him?
SPEAKER_01Oh, you're talking about doing the pie challenge?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, no, during the um bed challenge, but he was on like the opposite side. Oh, she she never got to him because uh Gibber was the first on the bed, so she she never got to they put her on the opposite side, because if he was on the first, then that would have been too easy, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, you're completely right. I forgot about her kiss, I kind of like fell asleep. I goddamn forgot she was in that damn episode. But I think they did kiss, and then she did try to have a conversation with him, and he just blanked out and was like, So yeah, Melanie, I had a competition with Melanie. I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_03His voice, bruh, is probably the easiest that we can do.
SPEAKER_01He really does sound like it can be this. He be trying to hide that Jamaican accent so bad, he's like, Yeah, so Melanie Corp and please leave my villa, bruh.
SPEAKER_00I cannot, but no, I definitely think he would have chosen Beya because I just and he would have been like, it was just so hard for me, but I gotta google my good or some bullshit. Because I want to hear what he says. Like, now, spoiler alert, Bea has left the villa, but now that she has gone, I want him to pretend that it was a hard decision for him. I really want to see that. I want to see him lie because that shit was not easy, and I it was no suspense for me because I was like, he's going to choose Melody. There's no way he's gonna choose Bea.
SPEAKER_01Something about him would have given it to me that he would have chosen Aya because of the whole leg situation that I feel like he's that shallow. I feel like he's like shallow that he would have been part of it. Because I thought Bea was cute, but I guess because she's because I feel like he's so shallow. Now, this is just perspective of his TV personality. I don't know this man personally. We're just making an assumption off of what they present to us on TV and what is edited because I feel as though he's so shallow, he would have picked Anaya and then just not talk to her. Yeah, I just he's like, well, he would not have. It's better sleeping in bed with Anaya, knowing that she still wants Casey opposed to Bia, who did try to talk to him. So there is that. So crash and burn very quickly. So throughout this episode, we we see uh Melanie said, like, oh, why would I overreact?
SPEAKER_00And then continue to uh I feel like she just is being told so many lies that her reactions are starting to be valid because then you start to feel like you're going crazy, but then you have somebody looking you done in your face telling you, like, no, no, no, I'm really here for you and I want this. Because he did that. He he does tell her that and then goes and pulls her and has like a two-hour conversation over however long. And I think I put Melanie got a clock in there because she put it's been over an hour. I'm like, how do you know that? How would you know it's over an hour?
SPEAKER_01In there counting in her head, uh it's like one Mississippi two, but that's that's one minute.
SPEAKER_00She's definitely I wouldn't put it past her.
SPEAKER_01She definitely does she do that red paint, like she has some internal, she has some internal things going on to where she just knows. That's a girl that's been consistently cheated on that. You just you have to be prepared for the for the worst, and she's uh she's said that throughout her confessionals where she picked the guys that constantly do her bad. And when you're when you've been treated that bad, your internal clock starts to take what some things off because the way she noticed that red paint, I was still watching the episode, like, who is what color now who got pink?
SPEAKER_00Literally, there's so many of them. How would you even notice? But I'm happy her family and friends clarified because for those of you who do not know, Melanie used to be bigger, like maybe if I had to guess 30 or 40 pounds bigger, I was like a plus size model at one point. And since the internet got a hold of that, they started saying, like, oh, that's how why she acts the way she acts, that's why she was insecure. And they were like, She was literally a whole model and she was securing herself just fine. It was the fact that she's dated people that have treated her badly consistently, is why. And she explained that on the the show, and people still went and said, like, oh, it has to be like fat girl syndrome where you lose the weight and you still have like this uh mentality of like being bigger, which is a thing, it does happen very much so, but she literally is like it's because of trauma. Because I feel like if it was because of her weight, she would have said that.
SPEAKER_01I feel it's like how do we know she's been big all her life? What if it was one of those things where she was a smaller weight at one point and then it happens to most of us? That's what it was. Um gained and then lost, yeah. I was just like, why first of all, what does her being big have to do with anything? And if it was because of insecurity that she was bigger, it still doesn't matter. The point still stands. Women who are smaller still experience the same thing, women who are bigger still experience the same thing. The issue is the men that she's choosing or the men that's choosing her because they always say choose better or whatever, but sometimes you don't even choose, and these guys talk to you. So this the issue still stands. It's the men that she chooses to. To be with in in those points that she probably thought at one point was a good person end up just being a awful. So her being big has really nothing to do with it. Yes, being big and lose the way you see people treat you differently because they do, but it doesn't take away from the fact like she just be with ancient niggas, and that'd be true.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they treat you differently like outside. Like they'll probably hold a door open for you or they'll flirt with you or whatever. But in relationships, in my opinion, it makes no difference at all. And it's a proven fact, because look, Meg DeSalian has a great body, just got cheated on. It's happened to Sierra. Sierra's never been big. She's literally been in shape her entire career. At least that I know. She might have been a chubby kid, who knows? But you know what I'm saying? It happens literally every day to really um in shape people. It does not change how man treats you. If they don't want to be faithful, they're not going to be. Beyonce is a global superstar. Look at her. That's just she don't get no higher than Beyonce. And I know for a fact she was never fat. She was never big. I've seen her through our entire life.
SPEAKER_03She was always fit. She's been she's been in shape from birth.
SPEAKER_00Literally. She used to be singing her songs, running on a treadmill. Like that's crazy work. That's how she does. I I think that's how she trains for um tours and stuff. And it works because she never sounds breathy at all. I'm like, damn. I used to think that she had the track play in the back, but then I remembered that's Beyonce. She would never do that. That's Beyonce.
SPEAKER_01No. This is so yeah, this episode is definitely a a boozy. Uh this is related to what I was saying earlier, where Kenzie was telling Corbin that when she was kissing Caleb, she was thinking about him. And you know what, Kenzie? I feel that. There's been times that I uh do the devil's tango with a young man. I'm like, hmm, you don't do it like Mike do or or John or whatever. And I've never I've never said it be like, oh, you don't DJ the box like my ex do. I've never said it. When I when you was doing your thing, I was thinking about my ex, that's not something you tell me.
SPEAKER_00No, you that's something you tell your homegirls. You don't tell the guy that.
SPEAKER_01Shit. I would not tell a guy that. Like, imagine the guy was like, Yeah, I was kissing Sarah and I was thinking about you. What are we talking about?
SPEAKER_00I'll be so iffed out. I'd be like, No, I'd be like, then go be for it. Like, that would literally be the last conversation. I've never had somebody tell me that. They might have thought it, I'm sure, but I'm like, probably when they close it. I'm not always on my game, you know, when I'm doing that. Sometimes I'm lazy, so I'm sure they thought it.
SPEAKER_01When they're on top of you and they close their eyes, I'd be like, is it that I'm ugly, or who are you thinking about up there?
SPEAKER_02I gotta think. Yeah, this is going on.
SPEAKER_03I'm ugly, or who's up there? Nah, I'm fucking weak. Now I'm now I have a new insecurity to add to me. I never thought about that. You never had sex with a guy and he's on top of you, and he just like, hmm. I want to see, look at me. What's going on? I thought he was like really in the moment. Cause now I'm thinking like open your eyes. Look at me. Now I dare me to do that. I'd be like, open your eyes, what's going on up there? I want to see now I'll probably end them busting out laughing because I'm not a serious break.
SPEAKER_02You're gonna have to be thinking about me. No, stay tuned, guys, the next week if she updates me.
SPEAKER_03Yes, I will definitely let you know next time that happens.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm telling you, when you do it, your partner, if he closes eyes, be like I cannot.
SPEAKER_00He has to be thinking about another bit. Like, that's some crazy shit. I'm so glad I'm not in that mindset anymore. Poor Melanie, she's still there, I'm sure. I'm sure she's still there, but she's also still very, very young.
SPEAKER_03Now, I really didn't like her.
SPEAKER_00It was Kenzie that said that dumb shit. I was like, uh, Kenzie. Yes, yes. It was Kenzie. Kenzie and Melanie. I feel like a lot of the girls have a lot of similarities, honestly. Because it's the thing about this is like a group. As you can see, I feel like one person sets a tone for how things are gonna go for the season. Like last season, it was Ace that set the tone, and now and Huda and Jeremiah's relationship, and now I feel like we're teetering into that because nobody's really exploring and then they're getting these like really strong feelings. But I'm starting I just really feel like it's lust because I'm not seeing anybody's conversations being super stellar unless it's a friendship conversation, like Bryce and Zach, they can talk to each other all day, all night, and same thing with like we said, Melanie and um KC, Anaya and uh Sincere, but I'm not really seeing these deep ass conversations. All I hear is like, I do want a future, and then that's like it. And we're not getting the conversations to lead to said future.
SPEAKER_01I still want a future, my damn so. So I was like, don't we all? But you know, um, but we do see a little deep, semi-deep conversation this season. Well, not season, but this episode with uh Trinity and Bryce because this is the episode where with Trinity and Bryce, right? I just want to touch on this a little bit, so we're gonna just to keep on this episode because it kind of how I condense this note is because it happened in the first episode and then drops out to the the end of the episode. We're watching Trinity tell Bryce that she wants a little bit more affection. And throughout the episodes, I'm gonna say, we see Bryce Bryce started the comparison between other couples first because you see him constantly talking to Trinity and telling him telling her, like, unlike the other couples, we're so solid, unlike the other couples were we're this, unlike the other couples, we're doing this. He has been the one that set the tone, as you know, Joff Piggy backing off the the tone set him for the episodes, right? He has set the the the tone of comparing their relationship to everybody else. Get what I'm saying. So now Trinity is like, well, compared to now she's now taking that effort now to be like, well, compared to other couples, our slow pace burner love thing, I want a little bit more affection. And it kind of uh jumps me a jump scare, actually, back to Olandra and Taylor's talk, where Taylor and Olandra is having a conversation of about her wanting a little bit more affection. I was like, I've seen this movie before, I didn't like the first one. And just for her to say that to him, we see throughout the episode as well where she he just for him to go ahead and talk to Kata, or will try to talk to Kata and like basically mess up the dynamic because we see, I don't know what looks Bryce is saying that's happening against the bill with him and Kata. I would like maybe it's just a friendly exchange.
SPEAKER_00The last time Kata and Bryce had any sort of romantic interaction was the weird threesome thing that they try to do in the beginning of episode two when they were all meeting the bombshells, which was Kada and Gabrielle. And it was awkward because he was like, Oh, I want to get in there, and she was like, No, this was literally the last time we see them have any sort of romantic interaction, and anything else has been her and Charlie 2.0 because I forget his man name, and Trinity and himself all being like friends and like talking around each other. So for him to want to pull Kata, and let's let's all remind um everyone what what does Charlie 2.0 do? He laughs, he laughs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think that I was gonna bring up that point because I was like, what I was trying to say was like when he was talking about this exchange, I was like, what exchange? You know how black people look at each other and they do the head not? I was like, maybe that's the exchange and he's not getting it because he is fully white, Kate is half black. So I was like, maybe that's the exchange. Bryce, the last time this girl talked to you was in a in a bed and she told you you weren't getting any play, and I haven't seen her interact with you then. So you went out of your way to and you know what? This also backfired on Charlie, and that Charlie's even like that's his name, it came back to me. Backfired on him because we are watching him tell Bryce consistently, like Trinity doesn't get you, I get you. And I was like, Is it me? Right, it's half white, because why are you telling this man throughout the episode that Trinity doesn't like him? Just for him to be like, Well, I'm gonna just try your girl. Right. You didn't expect me to try your girl, did you? No. And then that shit bacon on you. Because you probably was he probably was like, wait a minute. I said Trinity didn't like you. I didn't go say go talk to my connection. So it messed up your dynamic. So it it essentially, like, you know, I was like, Zach, do you want Bryce or something? Because why are you constantly trying to break and then he goes try to try his hand at your girl? And then then you watch Bryce tell everybody, like, oh, Trinity, that our argument. I was like, is this microaggression? Because what argument beyond that?
SPEAKER_00That was just a discussion, and she literally was just voicing how she feels, which is why a lot of time women feel like they can't do that because then we feel like we're nagging or whatever. Mind you, Trinity and Bryce on his accord, they were on the right track, and now all of a sudden, it my guess about all of this like shakeup in the villa is that the producers started to talk to the men because they're the easier ones to manipulate into doing what they need to do. No shade, but I really feel as though the producers like are this is gonna get boring fast. Everybody's locked in, everybody's happy. So let's talk to them about you know, exploring other connections because it's so early and everybody is just kind of giving like the last couple episodes of the season. So I think it got to everyone because we had Zach basically say he wanted to close off, and the next day he was like, Now I feel like I'm in a relationship, which is the tone that you set, but you might have just misspoke and then realized the weight of your words, whatever. But for him and also Bryce to be feeling that same way and just at the same time as Sincere, even though Sincere had a great reason to feel the way that he felt. But you know what I'm saying? It went from everybody being locked and happy to now everybody wanted to like explore. But the the thing about that is the women didn't get the memo, and everybody is still clinging to their man for their life, so I don't know, it's not working out too well. And I damn sure was the the second most embarrassing thing that happened at Bryce. The first will always be the best scene, will always be the best scene. But he had to go back for a second dose. He has a humiliation kick, I'm sure, of it. Because why would you go back to the same girl that told you no?
SPEAKER_01Of all of the ego thing, because it has to be it has to be an evil thing because I was just like, You could have just said Jen for all that, but it's one of those things like I know her on the outside. If I wanted her on the outside, I could have got her on the outside, so it has to be another girl, and it's so crazy because you watch Trinity in the dressing room was like saying, Oh, we're the only stable couple, like something's gonna happen, and boom, I want to get her. Uh we have a next topic. Let's see a history of evil light skins across the the the globe of Love Island, USA, UK, Australia, French. We we and it's never dawned on me that Sincere is an evil light skin. Uh it gets me riled up that watching a a woman talk to a man about her emotions and just for him to cover his mouth laughing, he literally couldn't stop laughing. I was like, he likes this shit. He does. You we talk about Bryce has a humiliation cake. Sincere has an argument cake. I don't know what it is. He just likes to see a girl pick off on him and pretend like, oh, she's evil, just so he knows that the sex is gonna be good. Because the way he was wiggling, I said, Why are we laughing? What is what is what is happening here? Just for him to have a conversation with Melanie, saying how much like, oh, I'm not gonna talk to that lady, uh, whatever, she beyond me, blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_00That's when I knew when he was like, Oh, I still want this, blah blah. Like, she's gonna do this back and forth for as long as she'll allow it.
SPEAKER_01Right, she's all jumping on him and straddling him while she said soul is watching me, whatever. And I say, You're you're an extra person. Just for him in that same scene, not even 10 minutes afterwards, bring Soul up to Soul Tides, which is so pretty. That's gonna be her slogan, Soul Tides. I'm gonna go I'm gonna call her Soul Tides. Bring her up there for them to have a fake in-depth conversation that you were talking about again, just to make out after you just told her he's not gonna kiss that girl anymore.
SPEAKER_00Her soul to to bear her soul to him, just for him to keep continuously be back and forth and tell these people what they want to hear every single time. Now, uh is I believe this is the time where Melanie decides that she is going to explore.
SPEAKER_01After this, yes. Yeah, you were absolutely correct because this is the time where Melanie pulls. Are we in episode nine? Corbin, yeah. Because I don't think we transitioned. Do we transition to episode nine? No, we were still in episode eight because there's that's a lot that happened in episode eight. Because you're on the right track by saying she pulled uh Corbin for a chat. And one thing about Corbin, I'll give him this. He may be corny, but he's a consent king. He's gonna ask for a kiss before he does it. He is because Gabriel just be kissing people, but my my consent king, he's gonna ask. He's gonna get turned down, but he's gonna he's gonna ask.
SPEAKER_00So Gabriel be leaning in like he gave you time to be like, no thanks.
SPEAKER_01He doesn't slow lean. You know what? What's more embarrassing? Slow lean is somebody back up and say no, or you asking and they just say no.
SPEAKER_00I think the lean in because it's like nothing was said, and I don't know what to say now.
SPEAKER_01So it's like it's like I can take the same king with no riz, he ate with the asking. I don't mind a man asking, so yeah, you know what, Corbin? You got you gotta watch it.
SPEAKER_00It'd be coming out of nowhere. He'd be talking about this guy, and he'd be like, get out, but he's no like corn cornman is what we call him on the internet. Oh no, man, I'm his biggest hater. If he has no haters, I am DC's.
SPEAKER_01But this this is so actually funny because after Melanie talked to Corbin, because she didn't even tell Kenzie, right? So I'm not even gonna touch on greedy Kenzie yet, because she's greedy. Kenzie's greedy, I don't care what nobody said. After she had a conversation with Corbin and she didn't kiss him, she just had a conversation with him just to see because she said out her mouth, Corbin is her type to a T, right? But she really liked she really likes Sincere. After she pulled a conversation with Corbin, she's now sitting with Anaya and they're talking back and forth. And she said to Anaya, like, uh, do you think I should pull him? Anaya really didn't say anything because not a debate on uh social media is that Anaya told her to go up there. She really didn't tell her to go up there, she just was like, What are you gonna do? And uh Melanie was like, You think I should go up there? And before Anaya could say anything, she literally gets up because she realized that she she came back and her man's still up there with soul. She's like sprinting towards the steps, and Casey had to tell her no, and then Anaya was like, Oh my god, chill, chill, chill. Anai, you should have told her chill when she got up. No, wait until she runs. Right, you wait until she runs up there, and now everybody's like, tell her to come down. You're like, Yeah, chill, chill. I was like, Annaya, I'm I knew what you're trying to do. I see your game. And now we're seeing like Corbin having like a talk with Bea and then uh Kenzie, it greedy Kenzie is like getting mad at Melanie in this episode. I'm like, Kenzie, are you you can never this is what happened when a bitch don't have a roster, because you cannot get mad at your friend for talking to Corbin and she didn't kiss him. You're just mad if she didn't tell you, but you gotta give her time to tell you right because Anaya wanted uh Melanie and Anaya were having a conversation and she was like, Don't tell Kenzie. And we see um Anaya sitting there talking with the girls because it was a bunch of them, and Kada said it out of her mouth that, oh yeah, Melanie pulled. I was like, wait, who's talking? Yeah, the only person that could have been because I think Caleb fits her in such a way that they actually they look good together. Right. In other words, I want they look they look good, they look compatible with the conversations, how they look. Like when I see them together, I was like, oh yeah, this is a couple that makes sense, right? You know, and especially I see with Sincere and Melanie too, I see with Casey and Anaya. Like when I see some of the couples together, I was like, Oh, yeah, I can see this in the real world, it makes sense. But Corbin is fine shit. I'm um I don't care what nobody says, he's he's fine, you know what I'm saying? He may be corny, but he's fine, and that's her first fine shit. So even though she has her type, who is Caleb to a T, he ain't no Corbin. She's like, I can get you.
SPEAKER_00But if you in Atlanta, wherever she's from, Ken Kenneth.
SPEAKER_01Right. If Corbin and Caleb were homeboys and they were walking down the street, I'm not saying Caleb would never get approached, but Corbin across all races, you can acknowledge when a man is fine across all races of w of women. We all acknowledge as women that he's fine. And if you say he's ugly, you just you know you have sense because he's corny, so it's making him ugly.
SPEAKER_00But physically speaking, like the boy is Yeah, he's very tall too. Like we know we like that as well. So she's really stuck on him, even though her clear consent is the other one. But for you to be upset that she's acting like her and Corbin have had so much time in. He hasn't been here for that much longer than than uh Caleb has, like maybe a a day or two. And for her to be consistently acting like Melanie owed something, she owed you a conversation, which I will say she should have pulled her before Kenzie had to be the one to do it. That's where she messed up at. But she explained to you the situation, and I told you I didn't kiss him. So what more am I supposed to do in that situation? You know what I'm saying? I in that situation, Melanie's to me 100% right, and and or at least 90% right. And then um Kenzie is just overdoing it, trying to push you back into a situation that's not good for you, girl.
SPEAKER_01And then we we you know, and then we're like dwindling down now, going to episode nine, where Corbin uh not Corbin, what's that boy named? Sincere, you know. I know I know uh I know Maya Papaya when I see her. That must they must he must be related to her because the way Sincere has so much anal uh so many analogies, I was like, oh, this is Amaya's uh cousin.
SPEAKER_00Okay, they have the same kin, yes. It's too much, it's uh it's a little too much. And I noticed it once, but then when someone called it out, I was like, is it really that much? And literally, I didn't even have to go back and look. It was in the next episode. I saw he said two times, two analogies through one episode. One was about fish, the other one was like putting all eggs in the basket or whatever. I'm like, just say you want to talk to somebody, just get to the point with that. But that will lead us into what episode nine now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so episode nine, you know, because some of our episode eight thoughts kind of bleed into episode nine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so sorry in advance that some of it's all jumpy around, but a lot of these episodes run into each other. So we're kind of repeating ourselves. My bad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we we'll let you know like what episodes that we're on. So, like, this is episode nine now. We're we're watching the transition now of Melanie isn't playing with Sincere because she's like no more kissing soul and you know, Mrs. Soul ties, no more kissing her. And then we're watching now Zach telling you know Bryce that Trinity isn't into him and didn't expect him to go for his girl. So we're bleeding into that. And then we this is the episode where we watched Keda turn down Bryce for the second time. I was like, hey, we're just friends, and then laughing your face and the girl, and I think it was the bathroom where she's like, he was just a friend. I don't know where he got that thought from. You and I both Kata.
SPEAKER_00The whole entire US of A don't know where he got that from because not one person was shocked. Because that I knew by how they were editing it that it was gonna be a dud. It was the whole um center around how Zach was feeling and how Trinity would feel. There wasn't it was a lot of buildup to that. I'm like, this isn't going anywhere, but it does provide good drama. But I will say Zach counter days because saying that Bryce would leave Trinity for Kata, I felt was a very weird statement. If it's true, we don't know. But basically, Bryce kept saying he just wants to see where and he's not wrong in that, it's just you've already got the answer from her that she doesn't feel that way because it's one thing for Kata to pick Zach and say, I still want to explore you, but I'm feeling stronger towards Zach right now. But those words were never said. She literally rejected you, moved on, and never thought twice about it, and has consistently talked about your best mate in there being her number one. I'm gonna I'm gonna use some of Zach Lingo. That's your best mate, that was his best mate. It's a little weird. And and people had a lot to say about the last episode at the end, where uh Zach laughed at this the thought at the statement that he was gonna pull him, and they were like, Oh, Zach, one of them friends that just think that they're better than you. I'm not a Zach defender, but I will say it's funny because I watched you get redacted, and Casey laughed when Zach told Casey what was happening, because it was just so ridiculous that nobody could believe he would go back for seconds for humiliation. It was not Zach being I don't I really genuinely don't think Zach feels like he's better than Bryce. I think in the situation, because you could tell he was starting to get a little nervous while they were talking, because he was like, Wait, what if Keda does like him? Like, that's gonna make this shit mad, weird. But no, in the moment it was just such a ridiculous like you're not coming to me with this.
SPEAKER_01Basically, you can't be serious. I fear I'm on Zach's side, I would have laughed too. If anything, I'm always laughing in a situation that I'd be like, what is happening? And if I was Zach, I fear I would have stopped laughing because I was there when you got rejected the first time. My girl never spoke about you in any setting under the light, under the under the dark, or under the moon, perhaps. He has never expressed to to anybody else outside of the villa because it's he say she said in that villa, and one thing we said to somebody else and it's hurt you, not even a that's why they be so on it to tell their partner because information travels extremely fast in there. So to watch it get rejected again would have been the highlight of my night because I've been like, especially because if you're so secure, if you're secure in your relationship, go ahead. Yeah, try it, try it, try. You go try to I know Zach basically said in that episode when he laughed, try, I know my girl. And when he came back that she, I'm I'm gonna laugh extra hard because who told you to do this?
SPEAKER_00And to Zach's defense, when he realized he was serious, he's like, Oh, I didn't even mean to laugh. Like, I just thought you were joking. Like, I think he was trying to consider his feelings at that point, but then also it's like it's just weird because apparently I didn't know Kata and Trinity were as close, because again, editing, I knew they were friends, but um apparently that's one of Trinity's best friends in there, and the dynamic is Bryce is my best friend, so why would you go there? Now I will say, and that dynamic, it's that's one connection I probably wouldn't have gone for if I'm really that close to somebody. And again, we've already all had the um the first night to all decide if we want to really get to know each other. We all decided. No. So why would I randomly, you know what I'm saying? Unless something happened. Unless we had a moment. But apparently looking at Bryce is a moment to him. So who who were me to tell him when to go for it?
SPEAKER_01No, but he he if he really wanted to talk to Kata, he would have still pursued her after the bed situation. Cause even when she said you're left off tonight, could have been he could have talked to her the next morning, like, I do want to talk to you up. You know, we can go from there. But no, you wait till your best mate is settled up with that girl. Just for you to uh Yeah, you're waiting for it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're trying to mess up Zach Visa. And we don't like that. We let Zach come to America if that's what he wanna do. Zach got a plan. That's why he was like, How dare you?
SPEAKER_02I'm happy with that visa. Let me have it.
SPEAKER_03Well, JT said marry a nigga for his green card. Oh, literally.
SPEAKER_00I'm thinking about that. We're going on a European trip soon, you guys. And I'm already trying to get me some like tourists in in uh in Paris and Italy. Like, I'm gonna get me a Visa green card in Portugal. Just call me my coastal bridges.
SPEAKER_03Like, my coastal bridge.
SPEAKER_01I'm left extra hard because this is the same scene where Melanie called uh sincere Christopher Columbus the way he even discovered shit that's already discovered.
SPEAKER_03Yo, maybe me and Melanie got more in common than I thought. I feel like a tear though, because we have we have Zach try to get his visa and we got sincere Columbus over there.
SPEAKER_00Because look, his brother Charlie has not been back to the UK since he'd been down here, not one time. I think maybe as soon as soon as he was done, he went back home to check out his plants, and then he probably bought them plants right with him. If he really wanted that visa, he would have stick with uh Kenzie. That's Trump's America right now. He would have got that visa live and loaded. But it's oh, we didn't even mention the fact that he was open to Jen a couple episodes ago when he told Kenzie he don't like blondes. He just didn't fuck with Kenzie. Because Kenzie was given scary, like scary eyes first episode. She's calmed down since then.
SPEAKER_01Only only reason why I feel like he was going for Jen is due to the fact that he told like Kata that he told them that he's closed, he's closed off.
SPEAKER_03So he's like, wait. Yes, like I need to back up. Cause he we never see him talk to Jenna again after that.
SPEAKER_00But where is Jen in the episode? To be to be real, Gail Caleb and Jen, these are not personals. No shade, no shade.
SPEAKER_01I saw Caleb twice when he was at the pool with the boys talking, and at the end of the episode when he got uh when he had a chance to pick, because the way that boy smile is like finally scream.
SPEAKER_00Because his one my guy, Kenzie ruined his plan. That was supposed to be his ticket to uh airtime because you know you know Kenzie has been the star of the show because she's been well one of the stars, she's been one of the main characters. Her plot lines, I don't really care for them, no shade. Because they have Corbin in them. Why would I care about that? So it's like most of the time I want to fast forward, but he was like, Oh, she getting a lot of screen time. I'm gonna get a lot of screen time. No, for the black man, no, because I know he mad to you, Mr. Cornfed.
SPEAKER_01Corbin, you you would need the you would need the white votes like yesterday. You need to and they're not even gonna do it because Kenzie don't even want it. Caleb, I mean Caleb, you need that white vote. You need your your Trump's America white vote. You need to step on that.
SPEAKER_03You need to show otherwise he packing his bag going right back to where is he from? Alabama? North Carolina or South Carolina. No, South Carolina.
SPEAKER_01That's what he was. Yeah, so and you know what, and this is also the episode that we saw uh this episode was a shit show. It's actually one of my favorite ones, because we saw in real time Melanie's like, uh, Nana Naboo Boo, I got my man that fuck you. Just for America to be like, watch it.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna take you away from each other immediately. We're gonna America this is the pie episode.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this is actually the pie. This is the pie episode because as soon as she said she got a man back, America said, Yeah, I got something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So we were supposed to do that the day before, and I feel like we found out a lot more things about everybody, and we like some people were regretting their vote or seeing that their vote pretty much is a waste because we had an extra filler episode, filler episode, which was last episode. So all of those events most likely wouldn't have happened if they were revealing the vote when they were supposed to. But because we crashed the site, we had more we got more information because before before that episode, Trinity and Bryce were like locked in, and people had these cute little edits. And while I don't 100% believe in them, and I was correct, I was like, oh, these are cute edits, and I was reposting them because they're cute. Then we find out that Bryce wants to go and explore somebody else. So I feel as though the vote would have been different. I feel like we would have been splitting up couples just for the hell of it. I think we would have been even more messy, to be very honest. Like we could have possibly put and then to know how much Kenzie was still feeling on Corbin, I don't even necessarily know if people would have put Kenzie and Corbin together. They might have just put a random ass fucking couple together just for the hell of it. That's just my guess.
SPEAKER_01And they they would have uh they would have still did it. And you know, in also in this episode, I don't know if anybody else noticed this as well, because we watch Zach from episode seven going down to eight, mentioning this whole leg straddle thing, right? And uh being fake mad and shit, and now he finally got over it that he's a princess. But it's always always at nighttime, Betsy, right? It's always Kata kissing on Zach. I'm like every every other couple you see the boys kissing on the girl, or it's like they're swapping back and forth, or they're like laid up with each other and all that other stuff. Every time they switch to Zach and uh Kata, she's always kissing on his neck, always touching up on him, always talking to him. He be on the on the edge of the bed with his hoodie on, just open up, and Kata, the entire bed on the side, empty because she's all up on Zach. I'm like, what is happening here?
SPEAKER_00And then that is the screen grab they decided to use for like us weekly or something to be like a graphic scenes of people getting it down. I'm like, can we I I really wish that when they did the bad head checks, they would skip that. Give them some privacy. We don't need to see that. And now that the publications are running it because Love Island is such a big show, I feel like it's just extra gross because if your family if your family blanks they'll miss it, but they're not gonna miss it if Us Weekly and OK magazine is running the fact that you were giving your your couple a handy. It's just a little it's just a little handy.
SPEAKER_01I've done worries.
SPEAKER_00Not on that show television. I mean, yeah, the way that the publications are running it, you would think we were seeing like a whole an hour full. It was like a a short clip, and we can just kind of put it together, but I feel like running that is just gross and unnecessary.
SPEAKER_01But it's because they are ghosts because when they they were talking about graphic, I'm like, what what's graphic? First of all, we don't know if she was like hands hands down the draw type shit. She probably was just shaving legs, just make sure she was shaving. So my my thing was my favorite thing of this episode is as well to show like Trinity is really a mature girl, is her conversation over Bryce after the whole uh debacle Kedan debacle is her type of interracial uh relationship because as I'm watching Bryce talk uh talk to Trinity over the the couple days that we've been watching them, right? I'm constantly seeing Bryce say stuff like, Oh, your type. And I'm like, is he dancing around the fact that she liked black men or something? Or is basically saying, and I say, is that the reason why he tried so hard to to talk to Kada? Because he kept talking about her type, and I've never heard her said once who her type was, or if she's gonna put any dude for a chat. And I'm really thankful that she didn't dance over that topic because she was like, What if a skinny Victoria's Secret model brunette comes in here that's your type, or you gonna leave me? Like, I'm also scared. And as women, because you know, you and I have dated outside of our race, it is a thing when you're dating outside of your race to be like, Yes, you may like me and stuff like that, but what if a girl that's fully your type comes in or you just up and leave me? So I think that was a really good conversation to see for uh our black women, the fears that most of us have, and it's not only just black women, any woman that dates a man and you're not genuinely their type.
SPEAKER_00Right. Like, are you just biding your time with me? Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01So that was a a really good thing to see that episode.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I really do appreciate that they had she had that conversation with him because I do think Bryce, as like a white male that is very good looking. I mean, he was apparently on Tumblr and hanging out with um Kendall Jenner and all at one point. He's not really thinking the like he can't really put himself in her shoes. But to know that she is like so about him is upsetting because he has tried to leave the couple not once but twice. And I mean to give it to him, she tried to leave the one time too, but ever since then she has been like down for it. And it's like it's kind of like a catch cut 22 because there's nothing wrong with Bryce wanting to explore, but also don't make it seem like you're exploring because of something I did, or I'm like making it seem like I'm not that into you. Like if he was more upfront and forthcoming with his real reasons as to why, I think it would be received better by the public, versus you being like, Oh, I feel like she's not really not that into you, or having you and Zach having these conversations, then they cut to her telling other people, I'm really into him, I'm really into him. And if you're telling other people, most likely she's reassuring you as well. So if you have you have every right to explore it still early, it's only week two, but don't try to use her as an escape goat.
SPEAKER_02Okay, hood.
SPEAKER_00Okay, as a scapegoat, because yeah, it's not gonna work. These men keep forgetting they're being recorded, so I don't know. It's just a lot. A lot did happen this episode. What else?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And you also and also point out to your point as well. This is why you're gonna count your days as well, with you and them legs, is that after the whole cater thing happened and you say, Oh, Trinity, do you wanna talk? You shouldn't even talk to her because you should have also told her in that in in that conversation, it may have happened, but from what we saw, you should have told her, like, damn, I didn't even know that you liked him that much, because I told him that you you didn't like him, and now I hope he felt bad because now you watch her talk to him, say to you, like, I really like him. And for him to do that, like hurt my feelings, and you're like, Yeah, what he did was messed up.
SPEAKER_00Cause that gets two-faced, because he could he didn't have to say I told him that, but you could have been like, from my perspective, I actually thought you were like losing feelings or whatever, so I could see like why Bryce could, you know, like he could have just told her exchange because that would probably upset her a little bit more, but you know, decide to be two-faced as he has been. I definitely think that they are gonna send another bombshell in, and I hope it is somebody that is there for Trinity and and also not because I need Casey to like be on his toes too, but they're so loyal to the man that they're with, and I really need that to be shaken up of all things, because they brought in a bombshell, uh no shade to gen. I don't know who that bombshell is for because it's clear that blondes was not like a high selling point for that man in the villa. I don't know who she was for, and I'm not saying she shouldn't be on the show, but like when they send in a bombshell, they normally send them in to shake stuff up based off of like what everybody likes. You know what I'm saying? Don't make me feel bad, don't make me feel bad. I am not saying that she should she shouldn't have been on the show or nothing, but it was it's not even giving blonde rivalry because nobody's you know okay, I'm done talking.
SPEAKER_03She I'm sorry, is you're not wrong, you're not wrong.
SPEAKER_00You're like, who the sports feel terrible saying it, and then you just went over there laughing. I'd be like, Yeah, right, no, I get your point. Jenny should ever listen to this podcast, but you won't, you got better things to do. No shit, girl. Jen, who the sport? No, because if I was Jen, I'd be like, who am I here for? Honestly. And I know she's feeling that way because they had her kissing all fucking Gabriel. That's who she was with. And Gabriel can barely talk to um Beatrice unless he, you know, they switched languages. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Jen looks like the actress from White Lotus, the one that you made me watch. What is that? Season two of White Lotus, where the guy that looked like Nick, it was season two. She looks like the guy three. Okay, she looks like the actress from season three of White Lotus that was actually in a couple with Nick's uh doppelganger that they were saying.
SPEAKER_00I cannot you think she looks like her I guess with the blonde hair with the girl from sex education.
SPEAKER_01It's she's the girl from sex education, right?
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Yes, okay.
SPEAKER_00I thought there was like two different people because I yeah, no, she yeah, she's she dying her hair for that role, I think, or something like that. But I guess I can see that a little bit, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they can stay around. It's the mouth, it's around the mouth face that in the head shape. So yeah, I was like, wait, is that the girl? Oh, so Bob, they got the girl.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Jenna's not ugly, like but the internet we try like she's ugly. She's a model, she's not ugly. She just she's not it's that fee heat. I'll be telling them every time it's that fee heat.
SPEAKER_01Also, uh dwindling down the episode. This is where we watch the the pie scene. Now, from what we know from Beya, because she also talked about this on Aftersun as well. I was so confused while Seoul. This was when we watched the first look, right? But when I saw the episode, I was still confused. I'm like, why is this girl soul crying like multiple times? And apparently, most of the pies that were going to Seoul should have been to Melanie, especially like the one about ghosting. Because she was like, Why would y'all pick me for ghosting when I never told y'all I ghosted anybody? And they were like, Oh, we thought, whatever, just a just a man thing. And then uh, I think you were telling me Sincere should have did something to be like, all right, y'all chill, but also want to run Melanie the wrong way of doing that either.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, with this challenge being like, who was most likely to do this, or who would you say would ghost? A lot of it was negative, like there were some cute fun ones, but Soul kept getting pied for the negative ones, and they cut around it to where it made it look like she was only pie twice. So apparently, we don't know how many times she was pie because their editing is choppy, but when Zach hit her with the pie for what was it, not being a girl's girl or something like that, or like stepping on people's toes. I think is I think it was stepping on people's toes.
SPEAKER_01His speech was nice.
SPEAKER_00The the reason for the pie was that yeah, he he felt bad, and you could tell he felt bad because she started to cry. I think she just felt picked on, and my thing is Sincere was a part of the decision making in that, and he should have been like, Okay, we're picking her for way too much, like she's a cool girl, let's not do too much. You guys could literally pick anybody in there, it doesn't have to be Melanie, even if like you know, because it would have been too much if it was consistently Melanie as well. Because I think it's just like all right, you kind of pile on somebody, but it's even worse when that person doesn't really know you, and she hasn't gotten the chance to know anybody in the villa, and she said that because everybody's been like so closed off, and it seems like we're kind of all speculating that there's kind of some frostiness from the girls as well, because Kenzie decided to be like, hey, if you need someone to be here for you before this happened, like I'll be your friend or whatever. And I feel like she wouldn't have had to have that talk if she had other girls like trying to make her feel welcome, so it's like she's being punished for being a bombshell just because she's talking to sincere, which Melanie is like, I guess, the one of the really highly liked people in the villa, except for Bibea. But but really liked by everybody, but it makes no sense because that's what she's there for, and it's it's definitely giving at first. I was like, okay, people just like each other for the first week, but now people are way too locked in, and you should never treat a bombshell like that. That is literally what they're there for. Otherwise, y'all are just on vacation on a couple's retreat and it's boring, and you're not earning that spot because the ratings are going down and you're gonna get the show canceled. Like, she is there to stir stuff up and she's doing a good job. And I feel as though she's been respectful. She hasn't, from what we've seen, hasn't done anything to Melanie, even though Melanie says something at the bonfire about like going back and forth. But some people said she was talking about her and sincere, but I can't remember, I'd have to see that again. But some people thought she was talking too directly to Seoul about going back and forth about maybe like being rude to each other. I don't know. I think the editing is different because of last year, how nasty it got for girls that were seen as mean girls, which is editing's fault, which was Shelly and Alangra was seen as mean girls, and it was like a stockpile of hate. So I feel like they're trying to cut around things as much as possible. So if there is any animosity between the girls, they're trying to like splice it down as much as possible. Unless it's Bea, because Bea doesn't care. She's gonna tell you how she feels, and I don't think she cares about backlash, she's literally Olympian, but that's my my guess of of it all. I think it's just ridiculous for a soul to have been, you know, crying at a challenge that's supposed to be fun because these men are too afraid of choosing their women for just for the hell of it, just for fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Everybody's getting caught in their feels, but like you said, it is an editing issue because we also saw Trinity has pie in her face. I'm like, when the hell did she get pie? Like, what's going on? Yeah. And it really is like the edited thing because what mostly happened is that they probably had like 20 questions that they have to cycle through and then have to pick, well, which one would garner a reaction from the public and also the islanders. And also, she didn't only just cry in the challenge, she cried after that. So they they have to add a pile of why she cried, cried because it would have looked so weird. Because we're like, What when when the hell did she start a crying or whatever? Why Casey telling her, like, whenever you want to talk and you need somebody to tell to like, I want you to think I don't want to talk to you because I got a girl or whatever, but you not right now, obviously, but you need a a listening ear. And we also see uh disingenuous this time, right?
SPEAKER_00Well, because why wasn't he the one that to immediately go, you're over there kissing Mel after the challenge, after soul's breaking down and like all the girls like run to like console her because they feel so bad. But Melanie said she needs to talk to her, you told her not to talk to her because you don't want their stories to be the you don't want them to talk, but you can only put that off for so long, the producer's gonna tell them to talk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we yeah, we definitely saw even after the challenge where Melanie was saying like she was gonna talk to him and he was like, For what? Like, we don't gotta talk to her. We're like, Well, not right now because she's crying. I get whatever. And anytime a man tells you not to talk to the other woman, it's because he knows his story about to isn't about to lie. And I kind of blame I don't want to blame the girls, but also I kind of blame them because they should have been talking to each other at some point in time. Right. And I understand Soul saying to uh since they're in one of the episodes where she was like, I'm gonna let you talk to Melanie and figure it out and sort it out and blah blah blah. But which is which is in his perspective because she isn't in a couple with Melanie, but also I would say this let him talk to her, and then you also follow up and be like, I like I like him, and I'm gonna continue talking to him. Or Melanie at one point, you see he's not being honest with you, and you're not getting the honesty that you should be getting from him. You should have at some point or time talked to this girl. You're gonna talk to her after she got we don't know all the pie questions, but you're gonna talk to her after the pie, and then your man blocks you from talking to her. Now, what are y'all gonna have the conversation? What this this next this episode coming out tonight, what Monday, Tuesday? When you're now in different couples, like it doesn't make sense. You should have had this conversation when you were in your couple because now tonight, because we just saw the first slip, the the dude that your couple looked with that is in your tea still want Miss America.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because because Melanie does not give it anything, so not to jump ahead, I'll get to that at the very end. But yeah, so Sola is upset. Sincere is he does eventually pull her and talk to her on his own time, and I think they go to speake easy again, and she breaks out again. And you can tell again, this is on TV, it's embarrassing. Your family's at home watching in real time, and you're with basically a bunch of strangers, and even though she came in with Jen, Jen is still a stranger. And shout out to Jen, clock her when she said when she pieced sincere and said, You may be sincere, but you're not genuine, like because you'd be lying.
SPEAKER_02So you know how quiet is that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and that's why Dennis here. I'm sorry, Jen. I take back what I said. That's exactly what you were there for, and if that's all you give us this season, it was amazing. I'll fly you out to VG twice just for that. That was amazing. And then for good for sincere to be in his confession, we'll be like, I don't know why I got the pie because I'm honest with everybody. Sincere, we're watching you in real time, lie every time, bro.
SPEAKER_01And that's why his ex on TikTok talk about we have same mash and tattoos and he played in my face for five years. I honestly, you know, I thought she was part of the community.
SPEAKER_00I was like, that's not even like telling me, but yeah, no, since you're the hot mess. And you know, Gabriel and Beatrice, I feel like they didn't really get that much screen time this episode. Am I wrong? Not really.
SPEAKER_01They they really didn't have I'm watching the dog just step on these wires. They really didn't, they really didn't have much because all all that happened in this episode was that Beatrice took the took the step to kiss Caleb. And Gabrielle was so surprised and shocked that he she kissed him, but I was like, You kissed two women in one.
SPEAKER_00Somebody had a theory that it was because of what she said, and his love language isn't like physical touch, it's words of affirmation because she was giving him like compliments. Because yeah, during the challenge, he was like upset seemingly that she like gave a compliment to Caleb. I think it was when they were saying he was like a genuine guy or something like that, and he was like, Oh, I guess it's only that.
SPEAKER_01I'm so lost about that because she tells him all the time how she he makes her feel feminine and how he's in and how he really listens to her and they connect, and she's always giving him compliment. I really do think is the fact that she kissed a m another man in front of her. This is the same man that he wanted to kiss a couple episodes ago to K was by the time.
SPEAKER_00Little bit of both, and I think he was starting to like her more than he was realizing. Um, because they did yeah, because he speaks English obviously, but he can only express himself to a certain level. It's just like if I were to learn a second language, I'd be like, Oh, I gotta say this in English because there are only so many words you know it when you're not super duper fluent. So he switches to Spanish, I believe it is, anytime she he wants to really connect with Beatrice, and we got to see that. Unfortunately, at the end, my girl Bia goes home because of the way that America voted. But we saw a lot more of their connection at the end, where she said to him, Thank you for never treating me differently. And I guess she had to deal with that her whole life. And you know, they were able to laugh about like her, like when he accidentally kicked her, and she was like, Oh, I I didn't feel it, which was hilarious. I laughed for like a good five minutes because it was funny, and he was just saying, like, you deserve everything. And when he broke out the the Spanish, I was a ball, I was a ball of tears. I was like, Not my girl, Mia. I know you you tin man and yeah, I felt like I was talking about Telenor.
SPEAKER_01I was like, Wow, love that. Are you speaking Spanish?
SPEAKER_00That's what it's called. Why was it why was it telenovela? Because there wasn't no drama. There was just, I mean, I guess it was a little dramatic because she didn't even.
SPEAKER_03It was it was you being a green, you didn't see the lighting. It was like, oh, he's like, it's a little greasy.
SPEAKER_02And then that was he started crying.
SPEAKER_00I was like, wow, it's still a little bit like it's sad. I was so sad to see her go because I really felt like one, I feel like we didn't get to see their full connection. Two, he said in his confessional, I feel as though he had like some regrets about not opening up more. But it is still early, and I feel like he's just more of a regarded person. But you could tell he really does genuinely care about Bea. But he did say something like I think he said he was more attracted to Jen or something than Bea, like physically attracted, which I suppose I mean, like that's not the best thing you could say, but at least he was honest and he didn't say it to her face, he said it to like some guy. I can't remember who he was he was talking to. But that was really all we got from them. Like, we didn't really get much, so I really wasn't shocked when she was going home, especially because they let Corbin pick. So it was between Melanie, Corbin, and Bea. And instead of letting the Islanders pick, like they normally do, who's going home, they let Corbin pick. This is Corbin's second time picking, it's given producer plant.
SPEAKER_01Because you picked they will he uh I mean, even if they let the islanders so probably the reason why they let him pick is because well, he's the only guy too. If we had just told him to sit down, the islanders essentially would have to pick who he would have to couple up with, and that's kind of unfair. You're not gonna pick who I want to couple up with because if you pick Dan, I don't have a connection with her. But they did that last year. That's when Charlie went home. It was Charlie and it was Charlie and multiple other men. No, but it was Charlie Huda and one other person.
SPEAKER_00It was Taylor, right? Charlie Huda and Taylor?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Charlie Hoodda and Taylor. Yeah, you're right. It was Charlie Huda and Taylor and they let Charlie go home, but Huda and Taylor didn't couple up. Right. They were just single, and then they get to decide again. Yeah. Right. So this time, they even though it was uh Corbin and the two the two young ladies who can't remember their name right now, they have to put everybody back into a couple because now another bombshell would have to come in. So instead of making them single and and basically vulnerable, they let him pick because I would think it would be a little bit unfair that they would pick which girl to keep and then he had the couple up with that girl. And I mean, but technically that's what we just did.
SPEAKER_02No, but he picked.
SPEAKER_00No, but I'm saying, like, America just put three people in a couple. So why do Corbin get extra? You know what I'm saying? You already get to pick Kenzie. Why do you get two picks?
SPEAKER_03I don't make the rule. No, I'm trying to you're like, it will be unfair, but it's not fair to soul. And but it's very good. I'm I'm down at the bottom. And you know, make the my castmate kick one a couple of it. I'm gonna be three violin. Because people are saying that.
SPEAKER_00This is not friendship, violin. Like, bitch, all right. But it's just a waste. I suppose I was in my boots based off of what I'm seeing next episode. So, you know, Bayl left, it was very emotional. All the girls gonna miss her. As you know, every time the first girl leaves, it's always a it's always a puddle. I've never cried at a dumping, though. The the look closest I got to crying was live in season six, but they were leaving like three days later, so I'm like, I'm not crying over this. They're gonna see her in like two days. So I but because this was the beginning, I was like, oh. But anywho, so Bay went home and in the next first look, Kenzie is right back with Corbin. Caleb feels like he's his time is being wasted because what you say, how many times you have to um weigh your options. But Caleb, like, we just got here.
SPEAKER_01Go talk to somebody else, then tell another blonde. Go talk to I don't know, Melanie, Trinity, uh, Anaya, go talk to multiple people, and that's the issue with the with this cast of people. You and this is the issue that I had with Sean as well. And you know, Sean is still here, yeah. But this is the issue that I had with Sean as well. You were still from what we're seeing on TV and what was being given to us. I only see you talk to Kenzie, kiss Kenzie, couple, uh, make your time around Kenzie. You didn't start talking to uh Trinity until the down to the down to the leg where you're like, Oh, I need to talk to somebody else, and you had a conversation with with with Bryce. Uh, that would have been your perfect time to talk to multitudes of women that were in a couple apart from Kenzie and look what happened. I mean, he there's nothing he could have done because Corbin picked this girl and he got sent home.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01We would have he'd at least gave himself a a a chance.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So yeah, I definitely think that these people want to lock. I don't understand Gen Z's dating because millennials, we knew how to do things right. We knew when to explore on Love Islands and when to like, I feel as though you shouldn't start getting more serious until week three because I think Casa is like week four or something like that. So around that time, you're like, okay, I'm really feeling this person because at this point, multiple bombshells have come in and all this other stuff. And there's nothing wrong with being happy in your couple and having your number one pick, but when that's your only pick and you spend all your time and energy on that and your friend zone to everybody, it becomes boring. And that is exactly why the edit um the producers are gonna continue to be overly producing and having their hand in it more and more because they're not doing what they're supposed to. But Kenzie, I hope she knows if she attached to Corbin, they both want home because people don't like Corbin. Not one, I haven't seen one soul say they like Corbin. None of the races, white, black, hispanic, everybody want Corbin gone.
SPEAKER_01Everybody, and no, he he did cry at the end of the episode. I was like, that gotta move me a little bit. Seeing a man cry, you always try to give Corbin his ones, twos. You know, I gotta support my fellow yachty, but no, that's it. Never gonna give him anything. Cause why are you crying? Listen, you sent him down right now. Bridget, I said it moved me, not enough for him to stay. Just enough to be like, uh-oh, you should probably go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I told him you could cry in the van on the way home because I don't want him in my villa. But yeah, him and uh Gabriel crying was I was like, okay, I wasn't expecting him to cry. I thought he was just gonna be like, damn, I'll see you on the outside. But it's like, you know how something that I it's like it's like it's all right, just give me a hook. Alright, I see you, I see you soon. But he might be next. I want to see how fast he moved on, and like, because what if he's like, I gotta go get Baya? I don't think he's going to, but if he does, that'd be good.
SPEAKER_01And in the first two weeks of the show, when you just get on a show, you should not be leaving.
SPEAKER_00I don't think you should be leaving, but I want him to be sad enough to where it's like, damn, I don't have a connection that good. I gotta leave.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Pepe Jr. Like, okay. Like, nothing. That's another issue from last season. That's the issue. That's the issue. That's how I call him Pepe Jr. You're gonna be you're gonna sit there and complain about uh Bea as about to call Hannah. You're gonna sit there and complain about Bea all this time, all the way up to what episode, and then don't leave, and he just skate through.
SPEAKER_00No, there's always one or two people because last year it was who was skating by with no connection for the longest time. It was Austin, Amaya, and it was Austin, I think, that didn't have a connection that were just floating around. And then the season before it was Rob and who was the other person? Liv. Liv and Rob. So we'll see who it is this year.
SPEAKER_01I think it's gonna be Corbin.
SPEAKER_00I hope the guy now. I'd rather it be Gabriel. I want Corbin off my screen so bad. I hate that man. He's so corny, and he's like, he has no emotion behind anything besides his little cry for for Bay. Maybe he really did was like cool at her and cared for her in a certain way that we didn't see, but doubt it. I feel like it was just a sympathy cry because everybody else is upset.
SPEAKER_01I'm not gonna lie, I moved me. I saw that's it.
SPEAKER_00It moved me to nothing to turn my TV off.
SPEAKER_01I like a movie cry. But I mean, that's all of episode nine.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and also I forgot to mention that Melanie said that she was gonna be free of Sincere now, and it's good that they're being forced apart, and nobody believes it. I believe they'll be back to the next episode.
SPEAKER_01So what did they say? Sure.
SPEAKER_00Literally, literally short Jay in. And everybody else is content, like there's nothing to report. So hopefully this next coming week is a lot better.
SPEAKER_01Oh, do we want to talk about After Sun a little bit? Oh, yeah, sure. We can we can touch on that and like you want to close out with Afterson?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we only have two thoughts because we that's all we can remember anyway. But the first thought is Sean mentioning Anaya consistently and after Aftersun. They keep asking him, like, who would he like another chance with, who he wants to connect with outside the villa. Anaya was his answer every time, and everybody's confused because he spent his time whining and dying at Kenzie just for them to not work out. And with Beya, it was very clear that she was gonna say Gabriel, like she still likes him and wants something out the villa.
SPEAKER_01But I was really shocked at Sean for Yeah, I was I I was I was confused because this is one of those things where it's one of those things where it's given Nick and Alandra where Nick constantly talked about Alandra, wanted to connect with Alandra and whatever, whatever with Alandra, and always wanting to couple up with her, just never happened. And I think if Sean were to stay, it probably would have been one of those things where he probably would have got with her afterwards. It's just the group, these group of men are just so confusing to me because you wanted to talk to Anai. When I said he was picking her for every single, they didn't say who had the best style. He was like, I don't want to say beer, but it's Anaya. I love anything that Anaya wants. I was like, literally also why I was confused with the Bryce thing, because we saw Bryce say that Trinity is too young and he doesn't want to steal her with her youth because she's too young, but want to pull Kata for a chat when they're being 22. Why I'm like confused with everybody on the show because here you are in after sun and all your I said Casey better watch out. Yeah, Casey, if he messes up, Sean go be there. They might pull him back in the village just for funny to just go take a naya, because apparently the bomb shows are not bombing. But every single, every single answer though, that was crazy.
SPEAKER_00I was like, all right, it was we get it. And then like Beaus, she just kept it real and people didn't like that because she kept saying that she felt as though she was right in a situation with the Melanie and Corbin situation and when when he first came in and how she was leaning over and like just kind of doing too much. And now we get to see, huh?
SPEAKER_01I said she's not wrong, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't think she was wrong in that situation. Um I felt like she handled it respectfully, but I could also see why someone would take it a different way. But we now get to see people get their phone back in real time and see their followers and talk to their family. And even Beya's friend was like, because who was she talking to talking about? Calm down, whatever.
SPEAKER_01She said she had like real people on TV because that friend was like, Yeah, when she told you to to relax, I was like, Who the fuck is she talking to? I fear that would have been my same response. Like, who the fuck that means?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they were like, Yeah, not me. It's just like this is a raw conversation that she might not have known was recorded or just did it again. Because she's not the one in spot.
SPEAKER_01Okay, probably she she was also the friend that was on TikTok with her. Cause uh last year, Bay said that, oh yeah, like I signed up to do Love Island and it didn't pick a girl, and she was like, We're gonna run it back again next year. That's the same friend, if I'm correct. So yeah, that's her girl.
SPEAKER_00And I get it, because that's her friend, you're always gonna stick up for your friend. But Sean is Mr. PR, like he was giving the answers clean as a whistle, especially when it came with the whole like cop situation. He was just like, I'm not gonna say anything bad, it's just disappointing. They were giving me medals before this. Like, I don't know why they were saying this when I talked to them about leaving. Sean is gonna go far because he's gonna get them deals.
SPEAKER_01I need that job back if that is.
SPEAKER_00If not getting a job, we gotta support Sean and his endeavors.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but he's he's gonna make it far. I should have been with girls in the DMs, that's it. And you know, I'll think that's yeah. His DMs were definitely if I knew he was gonna read them, if I knew he was gonna read them DMs, I'll probably would have sent one instead of it's never too late.
SPEAKER_00He's probably still reading them to this day. Yeah, she is shot at Sean. Be a stepmommy.
SPEAKER_01Uh he's my fight to a tea. I'm in love with him. Yeah, he's cute.
SPEAKER_00But all the best to Sean and Beya as they have left the villa, and we'll see who's coming in the next. I don't think they're showing anything about new bombshells, so we might get an episode of just everybody in their couple, and then maybe at the end get another pair of bombshells.
SPEAKER_01Probably Tuesday or Wednesday they're gonna bring a guy.
SPEAKER_00Right. So which we need multiple men because these men need to wake up, and some of them need to leave, Corbin.
SPEAKER_01Wait, how many couples are there? Because they're gonna have to get rid of some because they only have six beds up.
SPEAKER_00Jan and Gabriel, Sincere and Soul, Melanie and Corbin, Kenzie and Caleb, and then it's uh Trinity and Bryce. And a nine, KC, and so six.
SPEAKER_01Hold on, and Zach and Kata girl.
SPEAKER_00They have a seven. Yes.
SPEAKER_0114 people. Okay, so they're gonna have to get a couple off.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because we have six beds, so they're probably gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_00And the apartment because you're not giving Caleb no play play. Don't waste his time neither.
SPEAKER_01Caleb has a dream of a white picket fence and a in a ranch.
SPEAKER_00No, literally, poor Caleb. Just uh just wasted his time. But that is uh it for us. This episode, it is being recorded for like two hours. So let's see what happens when I do actually edit edit this. Hopefully, it's uh a digestible now.
SPEAKER_01So you can edit it down because a lot of stuff that we had to repeat, and we had a phone call in between, and then we had to Yeah, I do.
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